What If It Did Work?
Authentic Success: Navigating Digital Noise and Building Genuine Connections with David A Specht
Unlock the secrets to authentic success as we celebrate an incredible milestone of over 150 episodes today. Omar is joined by special guest David A Specht. Have you ever wondered how to cut through the relentless noise of social media and marketing? David shares his transformative journey in leadership and health coaching, offering invaluable insights on maintaining focus and authenticity amidst the digital chaos. Together, we explore how societal trends shape our ability to stay grounded and genuine in a world filled with self-proclaimed gurus.
Join us as we dive into the power of authentic relationships in coaching. Discover how genuine connections, rather than financial motives, can lead to unexpected opportunities and professional growth. Listen to heartfelt stories that emphasize the importance of sincerity and transparency, and learn how prioritizing meaningful interactions can make a lasting impact, one person at a time. We also critique the often superficial nature of the commercialized personal development industry, urging you to look beyond the hype and focus on substance.
Ever been dazzled by the allure of appearing successful online? We pull back the curtain on the realities of social media and podcasting, sharing personal experiences with so-called gurus and the often disappointing returns. From the use of AI tools in content creation to maintaining a personal touch, we stress the importance of genuine effort and overcoming negative self-talk to achieve your goals. This episode is a compelling reminder that true success comes from authenticity, meaningful connections, and practical knowledge, rather than the facade of online glamour. Tune in for a candid conversation that's sure to inspire and inform.
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Unlock the secrets to authentic success as we celebrate an incredible milestone of over 150 episodes today. Omar is joined by special guest David A Specht. Have you ever wondered how to cut through the relentless noise of social media and marketing? David shares his transformative journey in leadership and health coaching, offering invaluable insights on maintaining focus and authenticity amidst the digital chaos. Together, we explore how societal trends shape our ability to stay grounded and genuine in a world filled with self-proclaimed gurus.
Join us as we dive into the power of authentic relationships in coaching. Discover how genuine connections, rather than financial motives, can lead to unexpected opportunities and professional growth. Listen to heartfelt stories that emphasize the importance of sincerity and transparency, and learn how prioritizing meaningful interactions can make a lasting impact, one person at a time. We also critique the often superficial nature of the commercialized personal development industry, urging you to look beyond the hype and focus on substance.
Ever been dazzled by the allure of appearing successful online? We pull back the curtain on the realities of social media and podcasting, sharing personal experiences with so-called gurus and the often disappointing returns. From the use of AI tools in content creation to maintaining a personal touch, we stress the importance of genuine effort and overcoming negative self-talk to achieve your goals. This episode is a compelling reminder that true success comes from authenticity, meaningful connections, and practical knowledge, rather than the facade of online glamour. Tune in for a candid conversation that's sure to inspire and inform.
Get a Signed Copy of David's Book Here.
Join the What if it Did Work movement on Facebook
Get the Book!
www.omarmedrano.com
www.calendly.com/omarmedrano/15min
I never told no one that my whole life I've been holding back. Every time I load my gun up so I can shoot for the star, I hear a voice like who do you?
Speaker 2:think you all right, everybody another day, another dollar, like what my buddy dave says. Season four holy smokes. Man didn't think I'd have over 150 episodes of what. If it did work, it has to be my favorite podcast because, man, it's my baby Season four. And you know what? I'm super stoked, super excited to have my partner, my guest. He's also the engineer, he's the guy that makes sure that cute little song goes on before every episode and the outro goes on before every episode. And the outro, you know, when you listen to the whole hour and you get all the information and you get all the freebies and all the all the pitches from our my guests. Well, just in case, I'm gonna read the bio, because I, even though I already know you dave, but you know it's like, you know, it's like pavlov's dog dude I have to constantly read everybody's bio.
Speaker 2:For David A Specht, leadership has been more than a vocation but a way of life. A veteran of the first Gulf War, operation Desert Shield, which became Operation Desert Storm, david has led organizations of many types and sizes. For the bulk of his career, david has been the president of SPECT Newspapers Inc. A media and marketing company. In the boot that would be the state of Louisiana. Tina embarked on a health journey losing a combined average person not in Tennessee, because they weigh more than this 180 pounds. This journey led to where David calls his impact passion for health coaching. Since then, their business, spec Health Coaching, has directly impacted hundreds, while indirectly impacting thousands of people who seek a solution for the health and weight loss challenges.
Speaker 2:He has launched multiple podcasts, spoken before numerous crowds of business leaders. That's true. I've been there, written a leadership blog at davidspeccom for more than 10 years, and that's before AI. So you know it's legit AI. So you know it's legit. David wants to help other leaders achieve their purpose and realize their dreams. As a host of Keep this In Mind podcast, david and his guests help people with their mindset on a variety of subjects. Just real quick, dude, you need to update that.
Speaker 3:That's this is like, oh my gosh, it was like. That was like right after I launched the book, which was 18 months ago. So much in the world has changed in the last 18 months and I'm sitting here just rocking along going, oh, you know, I made a book, I lost a bunch of weight and the whole world's changed. You know, there's a, there's a, there's a whole different outlook and, to be honest with you, there's a whole lot more noise out there than there used to be. And and I don't know about your, I don't know about your social media feeds, but I'm just getting pitched left and right about everything under the sun. I mean you, you breathe about vitamins, and the next thing you know, you're getting like 18 different offers for the next multivitamin mushroom, coffee, lion's mane, whatever it just, it's just so much. And for me it's like let's just tune out the noise, guys. Let's, let's, let's, let's. Work on the workable.
Speaker 2:Well, you know, when this airs, next Wednesday, which July 24th, not only is it Simone Boulevard Day, which is the George Washington in South America, it's, yours truly, I'm turning 51. And I have to say, man, when it comes to social media, I get plenty of boner ads, I get plenty of ads for hair and ads for testosterone therapy. You know, pretty soon it'll be funeral expenses. You know prepay, I mean, come on, man. Reverse mortgages.
Speaker 3:Reverse mortgages. I'm going to have the bonds man, hey Omar.
Speaker 2:It's time, man. It's time for that reverse mortgage.
Speaker 3:Hey, that's the problem with the world today, right? It's like everything is marketing. Everything is marketing, even if you've got a great solution. There's so much marketing out there that people have a difficult time figuring out what's the real thing and what's just the BS. That some guy is trying to leverage his 5,000 views into a Lambo, right? It's just like finding the people who are genuinely trying to help somebody else.
Speaker 2:It's it's needle in the haystack time oh my gosh, I'd say, for the past five years of being in this journey, I've I've met more pt barnum's and I've met more gurus. And what you know people fail to realize is these gurus that's not the real them man, that's like an actor, lights, camera, action. They're like hey, everybody, whatever, whatever. You know, I don't want to call them out, but you know they're all the same and they're not sincere, that's not their authentic selves. And then you know, when you meet them, and then you realize or you work for them or you work with them and you're like holy smokes, man, I want to meet, I want to know the guy that wrote that book or the guy that's doing all those videos.
Speaker 3:Right and really our relationship was started a very similar way. I mean, you were a speaker at an event that I attended. I came up to you because you were so transparent about your introverted nature, your social awkwardness, and that you can speak in front of a group. It's just like your TED Talk. By the way, If you haven't watched his TED Talk, you're one of the few who haven't, because it's got like 8 million views or something.
Speaker 2:Dude, you're speaking of the thing. I actually saw it for the first time two days ago.
Speaker 3:I watched it all the way through and when I reached out to you and I'm like, hey, let's stay in relationship, you were open to it and it had nothing to do with sign up for your latest thing. I mean, I hired you as a coach but it wasn't until we had a relationship for probably well over a month, and I think that's really the difference maker is that so many people see dollar signs and they don't see the person. You know, and I tried to in my coaching business and you know that I I mean you pick a lane right, I can coach in just about any lane that there is, other than probably football, because I just don't get defense and women's basketball.
Speaker 2:And women's basketball. There's someone better in the Murph that I would hire for women's basketball Absolutely.
Speaker 3:I think women's basketball, I think Kim Mulkey, anyway, but anyway, me too, me too. The truth of the matter is that of the people I've met and I do this at every seminar I attend I, you know they all throw the QR code up. They're all like follow me on this. You know, you, can, you know you get their Instagram or their Facebook or their LinkedIn. I message each and every speaker that I ever attend and I say thank you for taking time, thank you for pouring into me, blah, you know, etc. And I wait and I watch and I see if they authentically respond or do they put me into an onboarding series of emails or marketing series of texts or whatever. And it's the ones that are authentic enough to reach back to me that I develop some really good relationships with, to me, that I developed some really good relationships with.
Speaker 3:And I think, in a lot of ways, that is the difference maker between the showboat and the guy that's like hey, there's 7 billion people on planet Earth, move on to the next one. And the people who really want to make an impact. There's world changers, or want to be world changers, who think they have to change a billion people, and there's the real world changers who think they have to change the change. A billion people. And there's the real world changers who change the world for one person.
Speaker 2:Well, I told you and I it's even in my book. The whole basis of this podcast, the whole basis for my first book is just if I could change one person positive and then after that let's go for two, let's go for three. But you know, I've never told people I'm a guru and I never tell look at people like their chase. And what I mean by chase is a checking account number and that's, that's so inauthentic. And when you, I mean I'm a zig ziglar follower. If you want success, help out enough people. And here I'll tell you that story.
Speaker 2:When I went to new jersey for that paid speaking event back in january or february, for that pharmacy, for the food additive, for the salespeople, it was a woman and she originally wanted me to bought both books, read it fan, wanted me to coach her son and her son, you know, when it comes to business or personal development, you know you can't, you have to want it yourself. It's very invasive. So the guy told me you know it't, you have to want it yourself, it's very invasive. So the guy told me you know it wasn't a fit, because I couldn't. Uh, look at his goals, his, his only goals that he wanted was to own a publicly traded corporation, ski resort, like veil, or you know steamboat, which you know okay, and this guy's 30.
Speaker 2:And the second one was he wanted to own he was at least specific the Atlanta Braves. So he wanted both. I mean, you know, big, big, like somebody would say big dreams, big goals, big ideas and that he could never be happy or he would treat his wife like crap and he'd be upset till he made, like you know, whatever dollar sign amount and I never charged her and I'm like'm like, hey, look, I don't want your money. And she was, you know, amazed and, being a big fan, she got me the speaking gig with her, her corporation. But if it was the other way around, I would have never had the ability to for someone to fly me out to I mean, it was newark, but still to to feel to get a big us city right yeah yeah, and you know professionals.
Speaker 2:I mean I would have done it for free. Now, if somebody's like you know we'll fly you out there and we'll we'll pay for one night hotel and and stroke you a check, I like. But that would have never have happened if I would have been chasing the kid, chasing the cash and like, knowing well that it would never happen. It would never be a fit. But just pay for three months, four months, let's see how many thousands I can bilk this woman. But other people would be the other way around. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:And I've been on the opposite side of that where I knew it probably wasn't going to work out, but they were so dead set about doing it. You're absolutely right. In personal development, you've to really you know focus on the personal. And.
Speaker 3:I'll tell you a quick story. I met a man who is a family friend and we got talking and he asked me what I do and I told him I was a you know, I was a life, business and health coach and kind of explained to him my methodology and stuff. And he's like man, my daughter needs to, really needs to get in your program. And I'm like okay, tell me about your daughter. And she was basically a college graduate from a major university, gets to her first job in her chosen vocation and had a bad experience and now she wants to quit and go into retail and just go work at starbucks or whatever. And what I told him was I said but does she want this? I said I can give people tools, but if they don't want to use them or they are, and he goes oh no, we're gonna go see her, we'll get on a zoom, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 3:Well, long story short, he paid for a month of coaching and I couldn't find her with a search warrant. I mean, it was like I would text there's no answer or I would send a message and it would be like two days later, oh, I'm sorry, I didn't see this. And so finally I was like you know what? I'm just going to cancel this. Somebody can't want it for you more than you want it for yourself. No, because you will not do the work, you will not take the tools. You'll end up you know, I tag all of my shows at the end You've heard it probably way too many times where I say applied knowledge is power.
Speaker 3:So many people are consuming knowledge and they never do anything with it, and then they begin to blame the person who gave them that knowledge. And that just irks the mess out of me, and that's why I'm very choosy. I'm only going to bring on people who are really interested in what I have to offer, because if not, it's a waste of time for both of us, and I'm too old to be wasting time.
Speaker 2:I don't have enough of it left. I hear you, man, but speaking of time and everybody goes sometimes I think what the problem is is when you're sincere, when you're authentic. People are so used to the flash, people are so used to the dopamine. People don't understand, like Las Vegas casinos, people don't understand, like las vegas casinos, the reason why the bling and the noise and the flashing lights is because it hits. Yeah, and that's why people, you know they'll, they'll beat, they'll con you out, because they have the smoke and and they have, you know, they hire a professional videographer to follow them around and and they rent a luxury car and they rent the mansion. It's like, oh, this guy knows. Or, oh, my gosh, he's certified John Maxwell, he must be one of John Maxwell's protégés. It's like no man, this guy took a frigging course and paid John Maxwell. He never met the man.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's true, the commercialization of personal development has really diluted the personal development space. And I'm like you. I'm not the guy that's going to get on stage and scream and try to get high, high energy in the room. I mean, I can act a fool just as good as anybody, but at the end of the day, is the hype going to move the needle in your business and in your life? No, it's not. You'll come out of there on fire, but then you'll go back to the same depressing office that you came from or the same depressing house or the same depressing life. Until you have the idea that you can take that step back and see what's possible, and then see the pathway to what's possible, you're never going to do anything in that direction. You're just going to come out going, yeah, that was awesome, all right. And then the next thing, you know it's like the next one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And see, I'm near Nashville.
Speaker 3:There's a personal development conference every frigging week. I could go broke just going to all the conferences that are around. It's like I went to. I went to a conference a few months back about and it was about multifamily real estate investing. Now, I'm not into multifamily real estate investing. But I was a friend offered to comp the ticket.
Speaker 3:I wanted to go, I wanted to be in a room, see who I could meet and I was just like, just like every other conference I've ever been to.
Speaker 3:You bring in the warmup guy, you have five guys that are so-so, and then you close out with the keynote speaker and they all talk about roughly the same things. They will give you some tips, but, hey, snap the QR code to go deeper, which is fine. Again, I understand the point of a conference, but what I'm saying is I guarantee you if every real estate conference I'll go run into the same 50 people because that's all they do, is go to conferences they don't ever take that thing and say you know what, I'm going to apply it. Or take a meeting that was in the seminar with somebody that they sat next to and say, hey, let's grab coffee or let's go to dinner or let's do a Zoom and just find out more about each other and see if we can do business together. Nobody does that. They're just all about the hype and the hopium and it's just like stop, start doing the work, start heading in a direction, start taking an action.
Speaker 2:Have you noticed all these seminars and conferences are Nashville, las Vegas, miami, florida, la. Hmm, I wonder why Orlando? Oh, because they're number one in conventions. Why are they number one in conventions? Oh, because people want to go. I mean, you never see them like in, like you know, piscataway um three, not three days. In piscataway, new jersey.
Speaker 3:You will be floored as we teach you how to 100x hey, yeah, I mean, grant cardone's not having conferences in lake char and by God, that's where he's from. They don't even know. You know what I mean. It's like, dude, you could be like bringing people to Lake Charles, louisiana, and really showcasing your state and showcasing where you came from, but instead, no, we're going to go down to, we're going to go down to cancun and have a 10x event of course, of course.
Speaker 2:It's never in idaho, it's never in montana, yeah, never in new jersey, delaware connecticut.
Speaker 3:I get it. You know you want to have a destination location, you want to have a one hop right. You don't want to have to change planes to get there. But at the same time, how many people can't afford to do that? How many people are you missing out on because you're not getting it? For me, I would rather speak to every Chamber of Commerce board in the state of Louisiana than to speak to a Bridgestone arena filled with people who are not going to take any action. I'd rather do that, and and I don't think everybody has that, that mindset- Because I mean you're Instagram famous man.
Speaker 2:If you could take a couple of pics just to view on stage at at an arena, oh my gosh, that means you've arrived. I mean you could be talking about pet dog shampoo or you know you, you could be just talking about whatever. But just, you know people, people go for, for that, they, they go for. I mean everybody posts a pic or a selfie with a guru. That's not that hard, man, if you have money you can get the picture. Doesn't mean this guy's best friends. You know, I've known gc forever. So there's no, no recent pics, because you know what's the point. But people think, if I could easily start posting all my pics, I've, I've. I had the pic with anthony robbins, I. I had the pic with g V, I had the picks with GC with John Maxwell. Should I be like you?
Speaker 2:know, hey look, this shows no, because it's an authentic man.
Speaker 3:And I think people see through that BS now. I think early on it was and I didn't expect the podcast to be a hey, this is the problem, all the problems with personal development right now.
Speaker 2:No, we're just riffing.
Speaker 3:But really, gary Vee said it right. He's like every good idea, marketers screw up because they oversaturate. And the truth of the matter is, yeah, it made a big deal when, if you got your picture with Maxwell before, there were, like you said, 15,000 of John Maxwell coaches in the world. You know that. That. That it meant something. It doesn't mean anything now because it is a selfie world that we live in. I mean that to me, that I want to get to the crux of it. I want to get to the meat of it. I want to know.
Speaker 3:You know I don't mean to pick on Grant Cardone and maybe I'll get lucky and he'll call me out, I don't know. But like when I listened to the book 10X Method or 10X Formula or just 10X, I don't remember 10X, that's all. It was 10X your effort, 10x your action, 10x your whatever, and that was the entire book, for I listened to it. It was probably four hours, five hours, and I'm like and I closed the book and I go this dude doesn't know jack squat. Now, again, I don't discount what he's done, I don't discount his ability, but that book did zero for me. It did zero for me. It did zero for me and I guarantee you there's a lesser known person out there that's written a book that's way better. That would really move the needle, whether it's what if it did work? Or old dogs, new tricks, or, or you know the books oh yeah, absolutely, they're my favorites they're my favorites too.
Speaker 2:I grew up with one of the artists.
Speaker 3:But they're not getting seen because they're not loud, they're not in front of the Learjet and they're not in front and I'm just, but now removed. You know, I think it was during COVID. So what? Four years removed from when I listened to 10X during COVID? So four years removed from when I listened to 10X, people are not jumping in like they once were, because they can see through the BS. They're tired of the noise and they want somebody or somebodies that will literally take them through the process and not leave them hanging when they get to the end of the checkbook.
Speaker 3:And that's my goal in life is to build lifelong friends, relationships, mentees. You know people I coach whatever. I want to coach somebody to the place where we share a stage together. I want to coach somebody to the place where they come to me with a business offer because I've helped them really upgrade their business. I want somebody to come and ask me to be at their kid's baptism because they were headed down a path of destruction and now they're married and have kids. That's my definition of success, not what the bank account says Now. Granted, we got to pay the bills. We all want the nice house, we all want nice things, and there's nothing wrong with that. But like Zig Ziglar said, in order to get everything you want, help somebody else get everything they want. And we're not doing that as a culture right now. We're all going after what I want and what I can get out of it at the very beginning of the relationship, and that is just. It's mind boggling to me.
Speaker 2:Well, it's like wham bam, thank you, man. Or it's like or it's like let me suck you dry, let's see how much money we can get from you. And once you're tapped out, it's never like well, are you a success? Or what can you do, or what have you done? Or let me get you there. You know it's taking us longer. Instead it's like oh well, see you Call me when you have more money. It's like a whore relationship. It's a prostitution.
Speaker 3:Well, it's transaction versus transformation. It takes time for a transformation to occur and sometimes, most of the time, it takes a transaction on the beginning. But if the transaction is the only thing you care about, the transformation is never going to take place. And if you're a coach, if you're in personal development and you're not about transformation, you need to get out. If you're about transaction, go sell cars, go sell marketing, go sell whatever. But if you're, don't, be a coach. Please get out of the space, because there's those of us who want to help people transform their lives and you're getting in our way of being able to do what we're called to do amen, and you know I, I it's.
Speaker 2:It's like let's have everybody win, you know it. It's that. That's the abundance mindset, it's not the scarcity. Well, okay, I tap this person dry. Let me go find my next client.
Speaker 3:Well, and I'm going to use a sports scenario that perfectly illustrates this Even when you hit success, or you start to hit success, if you're in a scarcity, transactional mindset, you get mad about how it's happening. Look at the WNBA Everybody's mad at Caitlin Clark because she's filling up arenas, and you know our arenas should be filled up based upon all of our license.
Speaker 3:You know we're talented players. We're way more talented and I'm like be happy that your arenas are full, be happy that your league is lifting up, but you're going to get pissed that it's because it's this girl from Iowa.
Speaker 2:Give me a break. We're old enough to remember the NBA was an afterthought. I mean, it delays. No, it was like the fourth league competing with hockey. And then, you know, michael jordan came along and nobody, nobody. Now they try to knock the hell out of them, but everybody's grateful and they're to this day. They're very grateful because before him there were none of these amazing, you know, million dollar shoe deals.
Speaker 3:Right, and I think that that is what's plaguing our culture, especially in the coaching space, but our culture as a whole. It's like Enjoy your opportunity. Enjoy your opportunity and regardless of you if you were the catalyst for it or not, regardless, if you're 55 and you're now just finally starting to hit your stride, don't get pissed that it took you 55 years. Be happy that, at age 55, you're starting to hit your stride. And until we get into the mindset of I'm going after the very best version of myself, making the most impact that I was called to make on this planet. It's always going to be about what you can get out of somebody or something, and yet it's so much more fulfilling when you're you know they say it's better to give than receive, but really and truly in the giving there is a reciprocal, almost a dopamine hit that you get when you're in abundance and you can bless another individual or another group out of your abundance. That is way more of a high than all the, than standing in front of a Lambo.
Speaker 2:Well, and then I don't to. You know, everybody loves every denomination.
Speaker 3:We're Christians, we're Christians Fives, twenties, yeah.
Speaker 2:But you know, we're Christian. We're Christian. No, you're not. You're not. Christian means to act and be more Christlike, but actions need to be aligned with words, plain and simple. Man, I mean, heck, when you're an amazing person, when you're a good guy, when you help people out, you don't have to do that, you don't have to announce it. A lot of times, though, these fake people shoot. If they gave a $5 bill to a homeless person, I'm sure they'd have their professional videographer filming it or staging it. Maybe, hey, we need one of you guys to come dressed up as a homeless guy. Well, I give you a $100 bill, but make sure to give me the a hundred dollar bill after. After you know, we stopped filming.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and and and. It all gets back to you know, we, we, we talked about content creation 10 years ago. You know, content is King, but what we've done is like we, we have twisted it to the place where it's content over everything, and that's just not the way it is. We're losing our humanity by worrying so much. Now, don't get me wrong. If I'm speaking, I want somebody to video it. If I'm being on a podcast, you bet I'm going to be clipping part of our conversation and putting it out there. That's part of the game, but that's not the game. And I'm seeing so many out there that are making it the game. And for me, I check out, I'm not going to lie, I check out. I've quit listening to more podcasts in the last year. I'm not going to lie, I check out. I've quit listening to more podcasts in the last year. I've quit watching more videos in the last year because it's just all the same crap. And I'm like I want somebody to reach out to me, to talk to me as me, not five points.
Speaker 3:And if you follow our five-step program, you're going to have a million dollars in the bank in 90 days. Oh, really, you're going to have, you know, a million dollars in the bank in 90 days, oh really. Well, what's the steps? Well, you need to join our mastermind and be a part of our mastermind group that meets every week. And, oh really, what are we going to do in the mastermind group? Well then, you might need some one-on-one coaching. And one-on-one coaching not with me now, with one of my highly trained official, david A Speck coaches. And it's just like. This is BS, man, I'm out.
Speaker 2:I'm out Well, when it comes to content and podcasts. I look at your stuff because I'm biased. I don't look at my own stuff because, you know, just weird, I don't need to listen to the podcast anymore. I know I don't say all that, I've gotten better, I'm aware of that, Just feel weird. I don't know something psychological.
Speaker 2:And then still, andy Frisola, definitely Ed Milet, you know the hopes, maybe season four, is not it? Maybe season five? You know, at the end of the day, like we've gone too far to just stop, right, you know, you don't know if, if you're that much, you're that close, and once you quit man, you quit on your dream, you quit on yourself, you, what's, what's the point? Right, what, what would? What would be the point? Be? David, this. It's like okay, three, three years plus one episode, and I'm going home because things didn't go my way.
Speaker 2:Then I'm full of shit, especially you know my book is full of shit, especially you know my book is full of shit. Then everything I say is full of shit and it's like no, I'm. And when somebody wants to take a shot, I mean, what you see is what you get. Man, nobody, nobody's ever said I'm a phony. After they've met me. They're like, oh yeah, that guy's, that guy. That guy can be weird at times or that guy is socially awkward, but that's fine.
Speaker 2:But nobody's like, oh my God, but if I quit, then I've lied to them and I've lied to myself. So the only thing is you have to have that mindset and I tell people all the time you're only one podcast away, you're only one phone call away, You're only one presentation away. You know, you're only one reel away. Now the getting all these likes and so cyber hugs and all that, what does it do? I don't know, but at least you know. And would it sell more books? Not really, but you know, for you and I to make money off selling our books, we'd have to be like right next to JK Rowling.
Speaker 3:Well, yeah, that's the fallacy of the space right of the space, right it's. Oh, you know, and I list myself as an Amazon bestseller because you know, I was in the top three for 15 minutes when the book debuted. Okay, that's what we do.
Speaker 3:That's the story behind the story. But at the same time, you know, I sell my book for $14.99. Out of that $14.99, I may get $4. Do the math To make any significant income. We're talking about having to sell thousands of books. Remember, it takes 10,000 to be a Wall Street Journal bestseller. Even at 10,000, at four bucks a book, that's only 40 grand. I mean, give me a break Even in.
Speaker 2:Topeka, Kansas, it's like okay.
Speaker 3:Well then, why did you write the book? Because I want people to know the message. I want people to learn from my mistakes. I want people to be better at what they are. And you know what I want people to cyber.
Speaker 3:Stop me and say, oh, he is well, I'm going to get his book and check him out and then they can make an honest decision on whether or not I'm their guy. I'm the one that they want you know coaching them in their life. That to me, that is the point, because unless you're Barack Obama, you're not going to go sell a million books out the gate. So you better be writing your book for the right reason, and I'm not looking for the many, I'm looking for the few who want to go on the journey with me.
Speaker 3:And I'm from Northwest Louisiana. We don't know whether we're Texas, arkansas or Louisiana. We ain't Cajun, but we ain't country either, and I may have a worldview that's slightly different, or I can look at a situation that's slightly different than the way you would, based upon your upbringing and your worldview. That will help you see things and keep things in mind, to help you move forward, and that's really what a good coach can do for you is to help you take that step back, because when you're in the weeds man you're, you're just chopping down. You got the machete and you're chopping. You don't even know where you're going.
Speaker 2:Most of the time, being from Louisiana, are you going to say like go Tigers.
Speaker 3:Never, Never. No, I'll take that back. I do say go Tigers during women's basketball.
Speaker 2:And when they play Bama, because nobody can cheer for Bama, nobody can handle Bama.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's just no fun. Or when they play Texas A&M, because I just oh, they're carpetbaggers.
Speaker 2:Man, I'm a traditionalist, I'm just accepted.
Speaker 3:I'm waiting for the reemergence of Swanee University of the South. Coming back to the SEC Too lame, Too lame man.
Speaker 2:I'm sure the Green Wave these days are like man. We missed out on a billion dollars yeah, they were vanderbilt before there was vanderbilt exactly but I mean in the grand scheme of things, you know, everything happens for a reason, and I know we're. Are we at the tipping point? Only god knows and you know it's always about god's timing. I know we'll get there.
Speaker 3:It's just, you know, we impatient because we don't want it on god's time, we want it on our own time um, and as we were discussing here, I'm like, okay, so we talk about all the problems what makes omar and david different? What makes omar's podcast different? What makes david's podcast different? Well, I will tell you from listening to many of your podcasts mainly when I'm mowing my grass because it's an hour and it takes an hour to mow the grass you get into very authentic conversations with your guests and you help them unravel their story in such a way that the listener comes away with a deeper understanding of, not only the guests but a lot of times themselves On my show, what I have found, at least personally and again, I'm like you, I don't listen to my own show a lot of times but I will tell you what a lot of guests say during the course of our interviews.
Speaker 3:They will say, oh my gosh, nobody has ever asked me that question before. And I believe you know there's professional podcast guests out there and they know what they want to say and they know what they're going to get to and the points they're wanting to make. And when a guest says that to me, that tells me that I've done my job right. And what's funny is like you've probably seen this happen too. It's like when you have a good interview on a podcast, that guest wants to introduce you to other people, that they want to have guests on your show. In fact, a couple of the guests that you referred my way did that very thing. And so to the listener here, it's like okay, what makes us different, those things? Why? Because we love what we do. We don't do it for the result, we do it for the process.
Speaker 3:And that took I don't know about you, but that took me a long time to embrace, because I've been doing this process a long time. And that guy who quit after two years because nobody was listening, that was me in 2012. I did a show from 2012 to 2015, and I quit because I was pissed that I was only getting 200 downloads per episode. But think about this If I could say I'm going to be in a room with 200 people every week, I would be like, heck, yeah, sign me up. But we've been so programmed that if it's not, you know, if it's not five digits, then it's somehow a failure. And so I get back to I'm not any better and I'm not any smarter, I've just made mistakes earlier to where I can help people, not make the same and that 200.
Speaker 2:If you think about it, man, like what you said, it's like being in a starbucks at it's just like that subway player playing. At times they've had, like you know, actual, like you too, and people don't even notice, but you have, you have a captive audience at the subway, like at the Starbucks. People actually are there 200. If somebody's like you know, people quit because they're only getting 50, 70 views and they're a business. Well, heck, man, I used to go outside with the frigging arrow sign. If somebody would have told me a million years ago hey, you know, just just post a, a reel which we didn't know it was called back then on this thing and you'll get 50 new people to know about you. And if you do it again the next day and then the next day you can possibly even if you're capped out at a hundred people. That's way better than like paying a shit ton of print ads yeah, for shit returns.
Speaker 3:And yeah and it's, and I love it and I'm gonna we're kind of, you know, again pulling the curtain back a little bit, but it's not about the 200 that listen right now. It is to some extent, but it's also about the one person who you meet that has a problem. And you go, wait a minute. I had a podcast episode where we dove into a problem just like that with a guest and you send them that podcast episode and they actually listen to it and they're like, wow, that's what I needed to hear. Or you send them that real TikTok, yeah, can we go back to Vine To that person and they're like, wow, that's exactly what I need to hear, that's what I needed to see, thank you.
Speaker 3:People don't think about those moments, they just only think about the cha-ching moments.
Speaker 3:And for me and for you and for the ones that really matter out there, it's never about the cha-ching.
Speaker 3:The cha-ching will take care of itself if we take care of the people, and that's been my mantra in the newspaper business, speaking of print with shitty returns to marketing.
Speaker 3:That's been the overall goal is, if you take care of the client, if you take care of the community, the client and the community will take care of you and if I if, if I'm honest enough, I never really saw that until times got hard and I got I could take that step back and I like, oh, wow, you know, I was really blessed by that relationship or I could pick up the phone, or you know, or I could I could email my, my friend, the Congressman, and ask him to read my book and give me an endorsement if he thought it worthy and oh, by the way, he's now Speaker of the House. You know, you can't buy relationships like that. There's more than just a cha-ching. There's a real human being that you are in relationship with that really matters to you and you matter to them, and that is what personal development, coaching and all that should be about. It should be.
Speaker 2:You know, that sounds like a great idea, man.
Speaker 3:I I think it's time to to whip out some more free, like another free webinar yeah, what you want to do, we'll go ahead and have a staff meeting right here on on on the podcast. I mean, it is the. It is season four. I was going to make a joke about where we're broadcasting from the four seasons in honor of this oh, people would believe it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're gonna laugh. My, my mom's like, because mia's actually, a couple weeks ago, youngest, my oldest committed to LSU. She starts in August, but she wants to go to University of Florida a degree in journalism, for some crazy reason, like me. So she took a week-long trip to Gainesville and she told my mom that she's learning about podcasting and whatnot. And my mom told me me, just like last week, why don't I start a podcast?
Speaker 2:Oh, yes, Living the dream man, I'm like shit, your own mom doesn't even know you got a podcast. It's like so it's Patrick by David Joe Rogan and then Omar. They're like well, you know number three for podcast downloads. Omar, madrano and I don't know what. This, the new podcast that supposedly I need to create.
Speaker 3:I tell you what, now that I'm thinking about it, why don't we do a webinar on that very subject, peeling the pulling the curtain back, telling people about the real and the fake, how easy it is and how hard it is, and even give, like you know, who we use to broadcast it? How do we get it out to the masses? What are the real numbers look like? Do we get it out to the masses, what are the real numbers look like? And really kind of talk to people? Because one of the things you and I do in our business coaching space you more than me, but certainly I do some of it is connecting people to be on podcasts, or connecting people with a podcast, with guests, and so we can talk about even that process, because I've done a few things you know outside of your, my relationship, to get people onto the show, so that that might be a really good.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, definitely, Because I mean the ins and outs of you know, not hashtag winning, because we could buy 10, 20,000 fake followers and I guess I looks good at full disclosure. Yes, I do have fake followers and I guess I looks good at full disclosure. Yes, I do have fake followers. I I hooked up a guy that's on um with a couple clients and he's uh, he was a podcast guest so he gave me like 20 000, but I still have like 30 000 or whatever real ones. But does that equal to that? And 250 copy of the us city today?
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, I'm the first one to admit there's fakes out there, but people do buy these things and think, oh my god, I, you know people are gonna think I'm a rock star, I've got a hundred thousand followers. No, you don't man. No, no, yeah, no. I think that'd be a great thing to discuss. I mean, we've done everything Heck, I've spent thousands of dollars, hundreds of thousands of dollars, on gurus that, at the end, meant jack shit. I mean, I helped their checking account, I helped their legacy, but you know, I got nothing in return.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I've done the same, not to the decimal points that you have, but I have done the same. I will say that the most, two things that really have changed my life, two things that really have changed my life Number one in this space, now, let's say that because my life was changed when I gave it to Christ. But number one was actually seeing people on stage in different types of settings and realizing, oh, this isn't that hard. And realizing, oh, this isn't that hard, that you can walk out on a stage and give an address, a keynote, and be okay with it.
Speaker 3:Number two the University of YouTube. Because if I had a question about anything of how to do it, I would dive into YouTube videos and begin to look and get the nuts and bolts down. You still have to develop the skill, but you can get the nuts and bolts pretty stinking easily. And now in today's world, chat, gpt, I mean, and all the other AI tools out there but being able to take somebody through that process and say, look, it's not as hard as you think. But the problem is is, when you peel back the curtain, the sense of peel back the curtain, the sense of awe goes away. The sense of awe goes away.
Speaker 2:Oh, completely, there's no, uh, the only person I'll be in awe of on stage these days is if the end of days is upon us and jesus christ himself is on stage. Everybody else. I won't do the 10X, I won't do any of that bullshit. I'm not a monster, you know, not living with a monster, any of that shit. And yeah, no, I'm grateful for Anthony Robbins, but he'd be the first one I've seen him tell. I mean, he even told me you know, I'm like man, you saved my life. He's like no, you saved your own life, you did the own work. Now every other frigging guru like you better believe it. Give me another 25,000. Now I've got this new program.
Speaker 3:And when this and when the sense of awe goes, it doesn't mean you can't get anything out of it, but it does mean you become more critical because you do realize it's not as hard as they portray it to be. And then you get really critical and you start like, oh, your lighting sucks, your sound sucks, why don't you have a videographer here? Why don't you have a photographer here? What are you even thinking? And just know that that's the caveat. When we, when we pull back the curtain and maybe that's what we'll call it, pulling back the curtain on podcasting and coaching, etc.
Speaker 2:um, I tell people and you know it, it's, it's a prop which I mean. I don't even know why I I had the mic there because I have posted microphone, but mine's actually hooked up because I haven't posted anything to YouTube. I'm in my living room, the Peloton's right behind me, I don't have a glitzy studio and you know, three years later, you know everybody, everybody's into this bullshit. Well, I need a full. I need to go rent a studio somewhere to to do a podcast crazy how many people are doing that now.
Speaker 3:Oh, it's a business. Now house, you know where they have the facing chairs and yes, yes, and it's like, are you serious?
Speaker 2:and I've had people, I've had guests tell me, well, where is where I'll be on your episode. But where, where, where do we shoot? And I'm like, what do you mean? I'm like I've only done a couple of live and it's, you know me with a recorder, a digital recorder, and that's, you know, that's a pain in the ass. And then I've I've had people tell me no, when, when, zoom, I thought this was done in the studio And'm like, well, you thought wrong, you've got wrong, bitch, how much are you gonna pay me? Maybe I should be like you know, john lee dumas and all that, and go okay, well, or I'll be like real bradley, I'll. Hey, bitches, you want to be on. What if it did work?
Speaker 3:Here's the thing, john Lee Dumas, you know he did it out of his living room, probably still does, but now his living room's down in Puerto Rico, cause he's avoiding taxes.
Speaker 2:I you know the craziest thing is that there are podcasts besides his pay to play and and it's not like huge numbers. I can understand if, if, like friggin andy forsella, which they don't, or or friggin, you know, ed my lat or any of the big guys was like hey, you know, we only, we only charge people. I understand, but when I was part of the stages which is a money grab for GC, we'll get you a lot of my guests, or this is it like. While we wait, you will be on Lewis Howes, you will be on Andy Frisilla, but for now you can be on Omar Medrano.
Speaker 2:What if it did work. And you know what? He's an alum of this program. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3:Exactly and for the audience. You know this isn't a gripe session, this is a reality check. We we, we've been there, done that, we're a little. We may be slightly further down the road. We, we may be. We may have just burst your bubble with regard to gurus and and and personal development, but the truth of the matter is personal development exists because it's needed and it's bastardized because it's needed because marketers and certain people see the cash register. But the truth of the matter is the cash register wouldn't ring if it wasn't solving a problem. It's just you've got to find the right people to help you solve your problems. Again, I'm biased. The two people on this podcast have the heart and the experience and the knowledge to help a lot of people navigate this thing called life, navigate this thing called business and even navigate this thing called personal development.
Speaker 2:I thought you were going to start singing Prince, believe it or not, when you said navigate, this thing called life. I thought you were going to were saying let's go crazy, oh, I mean, and it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3:People you don't have to be gen x, but you'll get our references if you are.
Speaker 2:But oh no, it just went straight to my head when you said that, because that's the only time yeah with, yeah I when I need that shrink. You know that because that's the only time you know with you know when I need that shrink you know that, beverly hills, everything will be all right yeah, but yeah no it's had it right too, though, and that was back in 84, yeah and you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Probably one of the most unappreciated musicians, but this is how it works once you die everybody. Oh my god, I didn't realize he played every instrument. Yeah, well, I mean I'm sure it said it all. I mean I was always a, you know, not my type of music, but the guy always evolved.
Speaker 3:I loved his old stuff, but yeah it was, I remember prince coming on the scene when I was in middle school and these you know what it was was the kids wanted his tape because he swore on it, he was singing about sex and all this stuff until he became a jehovah witness yeah, he went from little nicky to all of a sudden door knocking.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but yeah, no, I said. I say let's, let's go for it, man, because you know people. They, a guru will tell you you have to spend your last dime and I've heard every one of them say this is your last dime, it's money well spent, and it's like are you fucking for real? You just said if, said if the person only has $2,000 left to buy this fucking program. I couldn't tell that to anybody with a straight face. I couldn't even say it joking. Oh yeah, omar, I only have 500 bucks left. Can you mentor me? Okay, dude, I'll mentor you free. Mentor you free man.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I'll help you. What can I do? How can I? Yeah, there's a show that I binge watch. Yeah, that's right, I. I actually binge watch things on netflix, which is what every guru tells you don't do. Go build your business, don't binge watch. Look, I've heard that so many times. It makes me sick. Anyway, I binge-watched a show called New Amsterdam. I don't know if you saw it or not.
Speaker 2:It's very left-leaning it isn't New Amsterdam, it's with the dude that was on the blacklist right.
Speaker 3:I think so.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the bad guy on the blacklist.
Speaker 3:That's the movie You're talking about, the one with James Spader.
Speaker 2:No, this is no. No, there's James Spader. I watched only like I kept on getting pissed because we don't know whether it was the chick was his daughter? Yeah, you're right. She was married to the dude from New Amsterdam, right? Yeah, he's a good-looking guy.
Speaker 3:Alexa's trying to tell me all about it. Apparently, alexa off. Anyway, the the, the guy that stars in the show. He has the same phrase every time. He comes up to a group of people that are doing something how can I help? And that stuck with me because the best at what we do and it doesn't matter if you're in personal development or if you're running a business or if you're just and that stuck with me because the best at what we do and it doesn't matter if you're in personal development or if you're running a business or if you're just heading a department the best of us always ask how can I help? And that's what I believe we're about. And call it a pitch if you want, but if you're interested in seeing behind the curtain, let's do the webinar. Look at our, follow us on social, go to our websites, whatever you want to do, but we're here to help and we're not from the government.
Speaker 2:Ronald Reagan, yeah, that was the next thing I was going to say. Ronald Reagan told me, if somebody says I'm here to help you run the other way, I'll meet you to it and we'll have all that up in no time because you're the guru. I still just mastered the word processor after the abacus and the hourglass, you know, in the speaking spell, I think. So we'll have all that. But, dave, this is what words of and you know I always finish what words of wisdom do you have to that entrepreneur, that person that has a side hustle, that person that you know they've tried personal development, they've read every book except for old dogs, new tricks, and what if it did work? And they feel defeated.
Speaker 3:What words do you have to tell that person? Well, I'm going to be very transparent in what I say. I'm with you, I've been there, I am there. I'm still fighting the fight. But here's what I know when a team wins the Super Bowl or any top level accomplishment and they ask them how does it feel, they always talk about the adversity that they endured through the season. The adversity you're enduring and that you get through is going to be what catapults you to the championship. And so I get it. You don't feel like doing it. You feel like you're spinning your wheels. You feel like you've been at this way too long and it's not broken through for you yet. I can name off hundreds of people who felt exactly the way you do, and they said who felt exactly the way you do? And they said the one thing I didn't do, I didn't quit. So just keep going, keep pursuing and keep persevering and the breakthrough will come. And I'm saying it to me as much as I am saying it to every listener on this audience.
Speaker 2:That's very profound, dave. It's so true. Before we wrap it up, is there anything you want to promote besides our upcoming webinar? Buy the book.
Speaker 3:Look me up, buy the book, go to david aspeccom. In fact, if you go to david aspeccom you'll see a little thing that says odnt signed and you click on that and you buy that book and I get the notification from Stripe. I'm going to go right over to that shelf over there, to one of the author copies that I bought, and I will sign it and put it in the mail to you for the same price that you would have gotten it on Amazon.
Speaker 2:When are you going to do the Audible?
Speaker 3:Well, I don't know, I don't want to read my own book, but I did find an ai tool that sounds a lot like me, but they, they don't know how to say christian.
Speaker 2:they say christian well, that could be your thing, you know that's my catch.
Speaker 3:My catchphrase is is mispronounced, I mean there's one.
Speaker 2:There's a guru down the street that sounds like Elmer Fudd and he does well, that could be your trademark thing. You're on stage, you say it that way. There we go. Another thing, guys you can't write a fucking book with AI. That's someone selling you a thing. Nobody wants to read a book that says firstly, secondly, thirdly, fourthly, dave and I, none of our books are AI. The only thing I use AI is I get lazy and I do the reels Full disclosure.
Speaker 3:That's it. Well, I mean, but that's just putting the words on the reel.
Speaker 2:No, all the AI does is look at the fucking thing and says, oh, yeah, that's what he said, yeah, okay.
Speaker 3:No, it says oh yeah, that's what he said, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:Now it says have you noticed that he said in this video? It's like yeah, I know what I said. All righty brother and we are so committed. This is a Friday night, just like you know, montel Jordan would say this is how we do it. It's Friday night. We're doing here, doing this podcast, making sure it drops July 24th, national tequila day, and the day a legend was born 51 years ago, birthday, by the way, because when you hear this.
Speaker 3:I'm going to become Jehovah witness, so I would say you'd hear this birthday when, when it comes out. But we both know you're not going to listen to this podcast.
Speaker 2:Ain't that the truth, All righty brother.
Speaker 1:God bless that negative voice no more. The hardest prison to escape is our own mind. I was trapped inside that prison all for a long time. To make it happen, you gotta take action. Just imagine what if it did work.