On The Runs 116 - Jennifer Ouellette

Jennifer Ouellette, (14:00) a local mathlete and athlete, shares her journey of running the Boston Marathon and the London Marathon less than a week apart. She grew up playing field hockey and lacrosse and started running 5Ks sponsored by Planet Fitness. After realizing she could qualify for the Boston Marathon, she trained and ran the Cheap Marathon, where she qualified. Jennifer's love for running and her dedication to training led her to run the Boston Marathon in 2023. Jennifer shares her experience running marathons and fundraising for charities. She recounts her journey from qualifying for the Boston Marathon to running it and raising money for the Red Cross. She also talks about her love for running and the support she receives from her running group. Jennifer discusses her relationship with Eddie, whom she met through a running event, and their shared love for running. She highlights the joy and excitement she felt during the Boston Marathon and the positive impact running has had on her life. Jennifer discusses her experience running the Boston Marathon and the London Marathon in 2024. She talks about how running Boston planted the seed for her to pursue the Six Star finisher status. She shares her excitement about receiving a bigger medal for winning her age group in the BAA medley. Jennifer also talks about her training for Boston and her goal to go under 3:20. She discusses her stomach issues during the race and her determination to finish. Jennifer then shares her detailed itinerary for sightseeing in London and her experience running the London Marathon, including the unique costumes worn by participants. Jennifer Ouellette shares her running experiences, including her races in Boston, London, and her upcoming race in Chicago. She talks about the support she receives from her husband and dogs, as well as her training and fundraising efforts for charity. Jennifer also discusses her certifications in Reiki and her participation in the Reach the Beach relay race. She shares running advice and her favorite running songs.

During the Tros we had a very special co-host as Adaline joined the Pod again. Adaline brings us up to speed on her life with past, present and future updates where you may be able to see her perform on stage and on TV. She also answers your Instagram questions that everyone sent in. 

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Emotional Races
14:21 Running Two Marathons in One Week
25:23 From Field Hockey to Marathon Running
31:00 Coaching and Qualifying for Boston
33:26 The Dairy Cheap Marathon and Boston Qualification
35:17 Running Marathons and Fundraising for Charities
38:08 The Joy of Running and the Support of a Running Group
51:54 A Love Story Born from a Running Event
01:05:42 The Boston Marathon: A Journey of Pride and Accomplishment
01:10:49 Pursuing the Six Star Finisher Status
01:11:18 The BAA Medley and Training for Boston
01:19:14 Taking a Breather and Preparing for London
01:30:00 Sightseeing in London: A Detailed Itinerary
01:34:43 The London Marathon Experience: Unique Costumes and Camaraderie
14:50 The Importance of Support: From Husband to Dogs
30:02 From Reiki to Relay Races: Jennifer's Diverse Running Journey
45:09 Running Tips and Favorite Songs: Jennifer's Code Brown Commandments

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Eric (00:00.194)
I think it was one of the most emotional races. It's still one of those races that just like breaks your heart and like fills your heart at all at the same time.

Eric (00:32.782)
What's up everybody. Welcome to episode 116 of the On the Runs podcast. I am coming to you from my living room couch and Erica is not here because she is still on her break. I need to renegotiate that contract. So I felt like I needed to bring a sub in co -host today and one has been requested multiple times. She has not been on the pod in almost an entire

Welcome back to the On The Runs podcast. How are you? I mean a lot's happening with my life right now. A lot of excitement. So pretty good. Pretty good. my god. That's right. Okay. Why don't we tell people a few things that have happened. Then I have a few Instagram questions for you. And then we'll tell people what to expect coming up. So you've kind of been like the star in a few theater productions. Like a pretty big star. Not in the main role.

but a few of those Palace Theatre productions recently. Tell everyone about the sound of music. I mean, it was really fun, but I wasn't in a lot of the scenes because, course, I was the understudy of Gretel, one of the main roles. Which is so cool and so awesome and so important! Well, I mean, I guess so. But also, I was only basically in one scene, well, not including the Gretel part, but one scene of my another role.

Girl in the Pill, Pink Coat, one small little song, less than five minutes, but it's still pretty fun. Five minutes would be a really long song. So you had like your scene when you were the girl in the pink coat, you were up there on the front of the stage dancing, you have the smile and the look and the eyes. Like this was big. This whole production was big because not only that's a big role, even though you have one and a half scenes, but you went to every practice and were the understudy of like one of the main characters and you learned so much. And I think the director,

Wanted you to have that to learn for next time because maybe you'll get some bigger roles like some roles with many lines Yeah, and I'm also auditioning very soon for the role of Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz at Palace I mean, that's that's a stretch That's just stretch. She's she knows she's smiling and she's putting her eyes head up to the sky like please God That's a stretch. But maybe one day maybe you could have a pretty, you

Eric (02:57.334)
I think you would make a tin man. No. What about the lion? No. What about Oz? No. Okay, what are the little people who run, you know what, no. You would be a great monkey. Those monkeys that fly at the end of the Wizard of Oz, you'd be a great monkey. Well, everybody says that because, I mean, I would be able to do flips because I'm flexible,

And because you can actually do like legit flips. I just said that. Yeah, well you said it was because you were flexible, but no, you can do, because you do so much dance, theater, cheerleading, gymnastics practice, you go to tumbling all the time, like you put in the time and the effort and you're really good. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, she knows it guys, she knows it. Okay, so one hour ago we did some, we made a little Instagram story post. We're gonna get to our interview soon, but you know, I miss you guys and I miss talking to you guys.

So we did a little Instagram story, Adelaide and I, and we asked you to ask some questions. Now, we only have, we only did this an hour ago, looks like we have one, two, three, four, five questions. Okay, are you ready? Five? That's really good in an hour? Wow, okay. Our first question comes from Coach Watt. I call her Tara Taradactyl. Are you ready? Yeah. All right, Tara Taradactyl wants to

What is your favorite song to have a dance party to? It's actually really hard. It is a hard question. know, Erica has the question for every guest, like add a song to our Spotify playlist. And it's a hard question. I tell people like it's not a joke. This is a seriously hard question. Yeah. Well, I mean, I have listened to a bunch of new songs lately, but I would definitely pick...

This Ain't Texas by Beyonce. This ain't Texas. That's all the words I know. I was thinking you were going to pick some of those dance songs, which are like five songs and one song and the songs keep changing. Like cheerleading has that. yeah, that's actually a good... Wait, I forgot about Taylor Swift. I'd probably pick

Eric (05:12.332)
Look what you made me do, we're Bad Blood from Taylor Swift. But are those dance songs? Like when I think of dance songs, I mean I could think of a ton of old classics, but recently I think of dance mode. from Bluey? From Bluey! Yeah, I mean maybe sometimes, but it's not like my favorite to dance to. All right, so we're gonna go with The St. Texas.

You're gonna do like a line dance, country girl line dance. Country girl hat, you'll look like your Auntie Hannah when she was your age and she was a cowgirl for Halloween. That would be cool. yeah. Hannah, she's looking at like, my God, Hannah was a cowgirl. All right, next question comes from Uncle Scott. You remember Uncle Scott?

He did the Ironman races with me. him, the funny one. The funny one. Uncle Scott, you're the funny one. All right. Uncle Scott says, when are you going to stop looking like your dad when he isn't wearing his fake teeth? Because what are you missing right now? My two front teeth. And what was I missing last week? Teeth. My two front teeth, just like you. We looked alike. What?

So I think Scott wants to know when are your new teeth gonna come in? We don't know by then. I'm probably gonna be singing during Christmas. All I want for Christmas is my two front teeth. I don't know. Hopefully you have them by then. But they look cute. They look awesome. You look like a hockey player. No, I do not! my God. We love hockey in this household. All right. Next question comes from Mary. Are you ready? What is your favorite part about being a co -host on the pod?

You know what a co -host is? That's what you're doing right now. I know. What's your favorite part about this? Well, I mean, I get to spend a lot of time with my dad and it gets a big part of me being famous. Yes, it's this is the beginning of her being famous guys. This is the beginning. It's actually not the beginning. It's a big part of it. It's a big part in the beginning. Like this will be on all those, you know, the VH1 behind the music.

Eric (07:22.68)
When that comes out one day, it'll be like, well, she got her start when she was a kid doing plays from Nasix and co -hosting on her dad's podcast. All right, next question. Actually, that might be a good time to tell everyone we're gonna try to start a podcast for you. Like, we're really gonna try to do it. Yeah, I mean, we have already made the logo. It actually took a little,

How long did it take to make the logo? It didn't take that long. I got some practice though. So I was kind of good at it by the time we finally did yours. Yeah, I mean, it looks pretty good. So yeah, if I, if we like actually do it and I actually start a podcast, I think you should definitely go and listen to it. I've already planned most of it out. It's gonna be really

We're thinking eight questions with Adeline because she's eight. And this is practice for me to try some new things for Monday Night Media. And that's for more to come because Monday Night Media hopefully soon will have multiple podcasts with multiple hosts. All right, but that's for another time. Next question comes from Patrick. Are you ready? You don't know who Patrick is, but you will one day. Patrick wants to know, what do you put on your toothbrush first?

Eric (08:45.838)
Alright Adeline, I don't know if you're aware of this, but this has been an ongoing debate. when you brush your teeth, do you put the toothpaste on the toothbrush, then water, or do you put water on the toothbrush, then toothpaste? I mean, I think every night I, wait, I don't think I know. Toothpaste and then the water. That's the way to do it. Who are these crazy people that put water on first? Yeah.

Yeah, Erica, we're talking to you. All right, the last question comes in from Kristen. She wants to know, you could be any leading lady on a Broadway show, who would you be and why? Okay, so you know what she's asking, right? Okay, on a Broadway show, being the lead lady in a show, who would you be and why? Great question, by the way. You understood the assignment, Kristen.

I mean... Or at least she knows who you are and what you like to do. Well, if... Here's a couple of ideas with like plays I would love to be in. If I was in Legally Blonde, I would really, really rock and do this really good at... Wait, what's her name? Reese Witherspoon. Who plays the main role? I think so, yeah, Reese Witherspoon. Yeah, I'd love to play her role.

I I would probably be as good as she did in the movie, and I'm blonde. Well, I'm going to die my roots soon, so yeah. my god, she's eight. And if it was, well, I would also love to be in Wicked. I've already seen the Broadway show of it in real life of Wicked, so I really know how much they work in the Wicked show.

So I'd probably be Glinda. Okay, cool. I think that'd be Wicked. Yeah. Yeah, that'd be Wicked. Alright, speaking of Wicked, awesome. Couple cool things have happened in your life recently. One, we can't talk about so much the name of the show, but you got to go on set with a pretty popular show. We can't talk about the details of this show. You can't tell them the character you wore, you can't tell them name of the show, the channel it's on.

Eric (11:11.796)
When this show comes out, everyone will know. I will tell them. We will tell them. You will come back on the pod and we'll talk about it. But tell them about your whole experience. there was just a couple days you had to go down there, get like fitted for outfits and stuff, and then you had a whole day on set, right? Well, yeah. The time I was at set was for eight hours and the drive was hour and half, almost two hours. So including the drive, I was probably there for.

It was all day. Well, yeah, all day. So, yeah, I mean, there's a bunch of waiting. Most of it was just waiting. I mean, we were in filming for two hours. I was in two scenes. and I also had the most part where I had to wait was at the beginning because there's a bunch of people in the room and the people just kept

waiting and waiting, like call someone, waiting, waiting, call someone. And I just had to be like waiting for my costume outfit for me to like get changed into it for about two hours. Lots of waiting. The price of being a star. You have to wait, be patient. And then when your time, and then when your name is called, it's your time to shine. Yeah. And then we also had a lunch there, but the saddest thing about lunch.

was they had ice cream and it was also like really hot out, but they had ice cream and the rest of it melted, but most of it was just ate in. Yeah. But I mean, the day was pretty good. So I would say, I mean, it's worth the drive. It was worth it. It was a great experience. Yeah. All right. Yeah. It's not a TV show kids watch. I'll tell, I'll give you guys that clue. Yeah.

Yeah, you might get to see your scene, one or two of them. Yeah. Well, I mean, I tried watching the first show. Nope. You've said too much. You said, I know what you're going to tell them. You're going to give it away. So we got to, we have talked for almost 20 minutes. We got to go right to our guest today. We have this awesome guest, Adeline. Her name is Jennifer Ouellet. And let me tell you, Adeline, I am so happy I got to meet her at Justine's fundraising event last February.

Eric (13:35.286)
And she went running with me and we just chatted the whole time. I can talk, she can talk. This episode, this guest appearance was long. She had a dog there. His name was Oakley. He's so cool, but he was a little nervous. He was like, mom, what are you doing talking to these strangers? But we love dogs, right? Yeah. Yeah. I think Oakley would love us if he got to meet us in person. So guys, I really hope you enjoy our amazing conversation with Jennifer. It was a blast. This was right before Erica and I officially took like our summertime break.

and she was awesome. Can't wait to go running with her and the rest of the mathletes one day. And Adeline and I will see you on the other side. So Adeline, tell them, enjoy Jennifer on the pod. Enjoy Jennifer on the pod.

Eric (14:21.688)
Our next guest on the pod just ran the Boston Marathon and the London Marathon less than a week apart. She's a local mathlete and you can find her all over the streets and trails in New Hampshire and sometimes with her Thunder Buddies, Oakley and Sunny. She's our first guest on the pod who doesn't have Instagram, but that doesn't matter because we're wicked excited to welcome Jennifer Ouellette to the On the Runs podcast. What's up, Jennifer? Hi, hi. How are you? Good. Thunder Buddies for life. love how he threw that out.

That's so fun. Okay, very nervous in life in general, but thunder really takes them out and then he's a therapy dog and really truly Oakley's therapy dog. Oh, I love kind of dog is Oakley? Oakley, he's nine. He's a boxer shepherd. And Sunny is a 14 year old chihuahua kibble. Oh,

Well, I love your Thunder buddies already. I if they make an appearance say hi to your dog for me, but that was really good So he won't distract Okay, that's quite the intro that Eric just dropped I'm so excited to hear about your Boston to London journey because I Love when I meet people who are crazy enough to do back -to -back marathons like me So I am I am in very good company today. Welcome to the podcast Jennifer. I'm very excited. Thank

What I gotta say is I was doing my research, the hundred plus guests we've had on the pod, all have Instagram and I just creeped their Instagram, but you didn't have one. And I'm like, how am I gonna find out about you? So I go onto Facebook, I log in, actually had to type the password, because I never go on there. And I'm researching, digging through. And then I start sending text messages to people who I know, know you, multiple people. I'm like, give me the dirt on Jen. And they're like, there is no dirt. She's amazing, she's the best.

Okay, dirt's a fun word. Give me some inside intel. And then I finally got a couple, two people in particular came through and told me some fun things about you. That's how I got the mathletes. I would never have figured that one out. So I'm really excited. But first, like you and I, just met a few months ago. Let's talk about that. We met, was it Justine's charity or fundraising run back in the winter during, wasn't it snowing? Yeah.

Eric (16:39.854)
Justine and I were both doing fundraisers and she was doing hers for Boston. I believe it's for breast cancer and she was doing a 5k which is totally awesome. It's totally down to run for her and to support her and my friend Sammy and I decided to do a run beforehand to make it a complete half marathon that morning. So we did 10 miles

And then we met up with Justine's crowd and you were there and we kind of caught you guys as you were already like heading out. So just joined in the group and we got to run with you and Nicole introduced us and it was right from there it was meant to be. And that's what my grandma always said, what will be will be. And I think that's truly like what happens in life. So. I love that. I remember like I had to run, I think 10 miles that day. I wish I knew you before I would have done the 10.

But you're like, we still have to do another half a mile. like, well, I'm going to click off another half a mile with you, then get in the truck, go home and finish. I think I had nine more to go, but that was fun. was a lot of fun. However, one thing happened. You're like, you should join us on Saturdays. And I was like, ooh, what time? You're like 8, 8 .30. I'm like, that's perfect. And then I realized how fast you and all your math leads were. I was like, oh, I might join you in

Let's see how much faster Nicole can get me soon. Yeah, but we want everyone's pace too. We don't discriminate anyone from running with us. just like having a group of people and it started with just like four of us then. Um, it Jenna, Jenna, Jen and Sammy who we call Jenny when you run because the name, um, and that was just the four of us. And we meet at eight 30 at

just bought in Manchester and Bedford and at first I was making all the runs and I would tell the girls, was like, we're just going to go out and we're going to do, I would ask them how many miles we want to do that day. And I would pick the course and I would always stay at like the first hill and like, this is the hardest that we've had during the line. And one, like, I think it was probably like 12 or 14 miles. I made them run Wellington. And as I'm approaching it, the girls are like, are we?

Eric (18:53.524)
was like, yeah, I think so. And yeah, that was probably the hardest hill I made them do. And it was like in the first half of our training. And I promised I wouldn't do any more hills and someone else could plan it. And I was opted out of planning runs and I lied about how many hills and how hard they were. That's diabolical. I love it. There's no hills. This is the easy one. Just kidding.

There's a run Lindsay and I are trying to like plan a run together to do some hill. She keeps bailing last minute on my runs, my hill runs, but she's like, we need to get Erica to come. We'll tell her it's flat. We'll just be like, oh, just a couple little hills. At this point, I can handle it with all the races I've had this past like summer, I can handle some hills. So bring it on friends, bring it on. All right. I got a, I got a 13 mile all hills in Manchester.

Come on down, it's great. Might as well. One thing we have here is hills for sure. I think I'm gonna do that 10 -miler and I think you and some other mathletes are doing it too and that's hilly. I've been loving the hill workouts lately. I know this is dropping after I just crushed Mount Washington, but I've been loving the Mount Washington training and it's been a blast. that's what like Sammy was training. So we went out and we did that 10 -mile race and the course and it was killer. did hill repeat on the last hill and I wanted to die.

But we keep coming back for more. It's type two fun. Hell yeah. So we've actually met a couple times since that day in February and you finally got to meet Erica. Was it the 20 miler? Yeah, I believe so. Yeah. I didn't get to join you guys during your, your, um, the February run because I was on the West coast.

And I'm glad we did at least get to meet at the 20 -miler. I thought that was really awesome. I think that was my first time meeting Sammy too. Yeah, we all ran that one. We all coupled up there. then one of the Genas, Jenna Frida, she did the half marathon with her identical twin sister, Kelly. Oh, good. And then we have another friend, Karen, who was joining the mathletes a little bit later. And she ran the half too. And then Jenna Mason, Sammy and I ran the 20 -miles. it was a great training.

Eric (21:08.92)
They're all about to crush our marathon family. Now we're both training for Boston and Jenna was training for the main coast marathon I believe but don't me Is that Oakley or is that? Thunder buddy. He toys in front of him. He wants one. That's like two inches away And he doesn't want to move to get it probably right. He's like mommy. Give me this toy. Struggle is real. Yeah

I love that we got someone with dogs though. It's usually cats. I got one of them with me now. Like Maisie wouldn't leave. There she is on the bed. Where is she? she's right behind my mic. I'm going to knock everything over, but she's being nice right now. So I figure I'm going to leave her there until until she starts being annoying. So does she normally come into the conversation sometime? Scooter is usually scooter. He's one who gets real

I want attention and she will just scratch things and I'll get annoyed. So she's being good. I'm going to leave her alone. Yeah. He's finally got his toy back in reach. He's solid. Excellent. All right, Jennifer, let's talk about your mathletes here. Is it an actual mathlete? Like I'm thinking like math decathlon kind of competition mathlete.

Tell us more about that. That's so cool. We just came up with name. Kind of as we were running one day, because on our long runs, we tried to break it down. So we're like, all right, we've done a 5K. have like five miles more to the halfway point. And then it's just like another 10K to the finish and then two miles to the cooldown. is math. love it. Runner is math. That is so clever. The math lead. Siren warning math lead.

So it's the Saturday crew. It's the crew you're telling me about. Okay. so I could hang out with you guys. I don't think I could hang out with actual math leads. I am not good at that kind of math, but runner's math is a different story. Runner's math, yes. So we're down a long run specifically trying to stay at a steady pace. We had people that were running at like nine thirties who ended right before Boston being like eight thirties with us. So we were cutting down people's paces and working.

Eric (23:26.798)
I was really working on my heart rate during that time to stay in like Pacific zones and like working on my form and dropping the shoulders. was like, Jenna Mason's like always like shutters back shutters down. Remember to start your watch. we all had our things that we were working on and it was great conversation. It made like 20 miles go by like wicked fast though we weren't like dragging it all by ourselves. Cause for three years I was just running all by myself.

all my training by myself and then I met my boyfriend Eddie and he was a runner so we ran together and now I have the mathletes in. We just keep adding new people in every Saturday and it's great. We are consistent runners and we have special guests including like people's dogs and training for different things but it's great. I love it We're learning a lot about you really fast. You said one of my favorite words, wicked, so that makes me think you're from around here but why don't we get the Jen story.

Tell us where you're from, what life was like growing up. What'd you do? Were you a runner the whole time or did you just pick it up? What was, tell us about Jen. Give us Jen's story. Okay. I grew up in Maronac, New Hampshire. I lived there my whole life. I didn't really leave New England. My dad and mom were both very athletic. My dad did coach soccer and run track. My mom played field hockey. She was a cheerleader and played softball. When it came to sports,

I chose field hockey and lacrosse and then I just did running as kind of like my fun activity because I liked running and I was fast and could finish the mile. so those are my main sports and I also life guarded at the YMCA growing up. So I met a lot of my friends through that from multiple different towns and played all different sports. They were always very active going outside, hiking and camping. but I went to Becker college and I played field hockey and lacrosse there. They didn't have track,

I did run consistently there, not doing track or anything or even training for a 5k. I never did a marathon or half marathon at that, but field hockey is my number one sport. I still play. I play in a league called semi -pro. And we play throughout the winter and we play in summer leagues together. And it's just a group of people, male and females, that have played field hockey like their entire lives or picked it up later in life.

Eric (25:52.718)
It's like an hour of just field hockey, playing with each other, scoring goals, playing hard defense. And free time I'm putting with them for like some of the goals for like 20 years. And yeah. So that's my number one sport Becker college. went undefeated 20 in a row. Um, my junior year. So that's like one of my like things that I'm very proud of the whole team that we played with. Um, it was really like a comeback story.

weren't like a number one team or anything, but we really played well together and it was, we were a team. And that's what I remember from being on that team. We support each other. really mentored each other and really inspired each other to want to win. my senior year of that final game, we were down. We came back to tie it. We went into overtime and I just went over to the team and I was like, I was in my senior. I'm not losing this game. I've come here to win and I'm leaving it all in the field. So that's what I entrust you. It all do.

and the other team got a corner. I was the flyer and I hit the ball out of the defensive end to our number one forward and she dribbled down and I had no gas left in me and I just watched her score that goal and I was like, thank God, because like that's it. That's all I had. So that was like my memorable college moment. But crossing college was more of my fun sport. They had just adopted women's lacrosse there. So was like just trying to get athletes to play.

You can probably hear Oakley crying. buddy. You're okay. You're okay. And it was just like all funs. We all just played every single sport. Most of the girls really didn't play lacrosse growing up. There was this flesh few. and it was just like going out there and having fun and all the schools we really played against, they had just started their programs too. So it was like really good learning. and that,

I really liked about that for it was like learning and showing other girls like what they could love about lacrosse because it's kind of intimidating sport. You never played trying to run and catch a ball in a basket. Like, come on. You weren't the goalie, were you? No. It is an intimidating sport just to just watch it. mean, that ball, like how fast is that ball? Like when you chuck it at like the goal, how fast is that going?

Eric (28:14.286)
I probably wasn't top speed, but I did have teammates that can throw like 90 miles per hour. Unreal. That is unreal. I would not want to be a goalie in men's or women's. But you didn't have pads. Like hockey, you had pads. Yeah. The cross, you have like a chest protector and a helmet and gloves. Like that's it. That's all you have. So you play it like that little ball doesn't hit you and I'd rather have it just go in and be like

Sorry. Nothing to me. In semi -pro. I not be a good goalie. I'd be like, curl up into a ball myself. Just, nope, no, don't hit me. We always say like, no drives in semi -pro. And trust me, I'm like, I have to work. And I said, I don't need to lose teeth. I wear a mouth guard. There's some girls that don't. was like, I don't need that. Ballsy. Yeah. I love that you still play. Yeah. I didn't play, so I can't take a couple months off because

of Boston last year, I played up until February and I got hit in the foot and I broke my toe. No. And I like, I thought I was gonna be able to play all the way up until Boston and then I broke my toe and I like take a step back. So I still ran, it was still like crunchy and wasn't 100 % but I got through it and probably not healed, but who needs to go to the doctor when you know it's a broken toe?

much they can do for you anyways. just like, it and stay off it for a little while. Yeah, I need to run. I would ice it and hope for the best. this past February or the one before? One before. So I landed in Boston in 2023 and 2024. All right, we'll get to Boston. But I that you still play. By the way, I have two goals in field hockey. I don't think I even knew that. In high

You did like the powder puff games and all the girls played football. The boys played field hockey. I scored two goals. Whoa. Well done. I'm a lefty. I grew up playing ice hockey, so I'm a lefty, but I was forced to play righty and I hated that, but I still scored. Yep. So I had a teammate that she was lefty and she would play like lefty one hand on the ice. That's really impressive. I don't get how they made them all play righty. I was like, this makes no sense. It's like such an unfair advantage.

Eric (30:31.768)
For someone who's a real lefty, they can't play. I would just have to be goalie. Your teens made up the sport. of course, of course. They'll probably all ladies. So if you if you grew up mostly just playing sports, maybe a little track and field for fun, when did you really pick up running? I'm guessing this was after college. Yeah, so it was after college. I did start coaching. did coach field hockey for a few

And then when I came back home, my grandmother was sick. So I decided to take a step back from coaching and move back home to New Hampshire, to be closer to family. where were you? I was in Springfield, Mass. I was at Elm College. Yeah. And I made the decision that even though was like four hours away, three or four hours, I was like, it was just too far. So I started looking for jobs that were closer to home and I worked for Planet Fitness. so I stayed in the fitness realm.

And they would do 5k, like they would sponsor 5k's and I was like, well if I got to be there, they were like, we have bibs, do you want to run? And I was like, sure. And then I was winning my age group in overall female and they're like, we can't give you the prize. And I was like, okay. You were here, and I'm like, okay. Fair enough, I guess. Didn't really count, but I was just like, I want to sign up for like 5k's by myself. So I would do like 5k's and then a couple of the members in the gym were like training for a

marathon and I became my Kinect Keeper, my friend John, and I was training with him and we did a half marathon. He's like, go run, like, I'm just going to do my pace. And so I ran and he's like, do you know if you ran a marathon at that pace, you would qualify for Boston? And I was like, I knew about the Boston marathon. I thought you had to raise ten thousand dollars or be like some elite athlete to do it. So I did my research and I was like, OK, and then you're an elite athlete.

My mom was like, she like went on the website. She's like, that's true. Like you could run this fast and you have to run like a specific marathon. And I was like, we don't want to go anywhere just to run a marathon. So I found that the Dairy Cheap Marathon was a Boston qualifier and it was local and it in a couple months. I was like, well, and I train for a marathon and a couple of friends had run marathons before. So they helped me like with a training plan.

Eric (32:57.646)
And I went to the Dairy Cheap Marathon. I'm super nervous. I was sitting in my car and a friend that I had to talk to in like a decade, he was like, I did with me at Hampton Beach in college and he did ultras and like marathons and I had seen him at a half marathon recently, part of my training runs. And he was like, Jen, just run one mile at a time. Enjoy it. Smile. It's your first marathon. It's going to be amazing. And you're probably going to cry. And I was

Thanks Dan! And so I went over to the start line, I saw a couple of funs that I knew and I ran. And the dairy cheap, if you never run it, you go down and back and down and back on the rail trail. And it was great. It was amazing because that race on like half marathons, there's a crowd the whole way and people are high fiving you and be like, and I was like, I'm not sure.

shoes and by mile 22 I was like I don't know if I can do this and I was like all right I have four more miles this is it just go I'm like if I don't have 12 I don't have 12 it's fine and then I my friend from high school Chris who I've been friends with for over 15 years holding a sign and I was like bawling and I was like all right and he's like you can do it he starts running with me take

fanny pack and I was like, just keep me under eight minutes. Just keep me under eight minutes. So he was just like, go faster, beat that girl, beat that girl until the one with the orange shoes, get past her. And then we get to the last mile and he's like, just go. So I finish and I get to him. He's like, enough away. was like, okay, I'm good. I made it. And then I went to the backyard brewery part -time and Kendra who works there and Joya the owner. I have to finish it. I'm like, you did it. I think I finished my first marathon. And Joya's like, you called me.

Eric (34:51.246)
That was how I qualified for Boston. That is a surefire way to enjoy marathoning when you know, like, holy shit, I just did this, my first marathon, I qualified. Was this in 2022 that you did this? Yes. Then, all right. Then, spoiler alert, we know that you ran in 2023, so you must have had a big enough buffer and you liked it enough to want to run Boston. That's Yeah, I didn't lose any toes.

I it, can keep doing this. My feet are okay. I ran in three hours and 14 minutes with just still my fastest marathon. Trying to get back to that pace. And I didn't even know, like I cried and I was like happy to do it. And then honestly, I was like, oh my God, I have to do this again. I like, oh, I don't have to do it like one more time if I want to run. Like that's it. And I registered to Boston, I got in.

And I had other friends and they were running for charities and I was like, I want to do something good with qualifying. And I was like, what can I do? So I tried to reach out to all these charities. I don't need to run for a bib for you. I qualified. I would like to raise money for you. And they're like, no. And I was like, okay, so five more charities later, 10 more charities later. Nobody understood that. I was like, I just want to give you money. can I have like a QR code so I can like donate to

And still like, don't understand. We don't have bibs for Boston. I was like, okay. And then I reached out. that's so mind boggling to me that you got turned down, you had your own bib and yet you still couldn't fundraise for people. that doesn't compute. Usually people would be like, yeah, give us money. Like, what's, I don't see what the problem is. They kept like redirecting me to their like donation page. Like yes, feel free to donate whatever kind of money you want. And I was like, okay, thank you.

And it's not the same though. You wanted to put in the work. Yes. So I reached out to the Red Cross. It took three months for finally, does somebody get it back to me and be like, I would like to raise money for the Red Cross. And like, would you like to do a blood donation, like fundraise? And I was like, perfect. Let's do that. I donate blood. So I had a hundred people donate blood and it was amazing. It was very hard work just to get a hundred people.

Eric (37:12.718)
and the lead cross to like coordinate everything. And then I decided, but wasn't enough, why don't I do a raffle fundraiser and raise like cash donations and supplies for people that I know are specifically running for Boston charities and give them each money. And then I found out more people, so I donated more and I raised over $4 ,000 in one night at the backyard brewery and I had 40 to 60 different baskets and gift cards donated.

And I split it between about eight different charities that year and just gave it all away. And it was just like, I, we raised this amount of money. And I just went on each individual of our pages and donated and broke it, split it all up through eight different people. You are amazing. How did we find you? You found us, whatever it is. We found you a fundraising event. figure. think you're amazing.

That is incredible. Just not even having to and still wanting to like that's really hard to find people who will do that and I just think that's absolutely incredible. I wanted to keep it going. So was like, well now I want to run for a charity. So that's how I got into London was through another running friend, Sam, and I'm from a butcher's name, Nugent. They also don't call me on his name. And he had one.

I think he's on All Six Stars and I was like, how do I get into a charity for London? Do you have any connections? He connected me with Izzy from Outward Bound Charities in London and I raised another $4 ,000 for them doing the same raffle event. But this time I tried to go like across the country to see what companies globally would like donate. I got about 60 local donations from local companies. went door to door, email.

I probably harassed everyone a hundred times. And then I also got like, the massage guns donated. got sunglasses donated. got gift cards to like flower shops and like all these local businesses. And it also worked out cause I bartend at the backyard. So like every customer I talked to was like, I'm hosting a fundraiser. Do you own a business? Would you like to come to my fundraiser? And I had stickers made and I know I gave Eric a sticker. I was just looking for it. I don't know if you could tell, but I was looking for it somewhere in this mess.

Eric (39:34.06)
And it had a unicorn on it, right? Yep. I'll actually have it tattooed on me as well. friend Louie is an artist and he designed a sticker for me for my first fundraiser. say on the tattoo? You have words there, right? Yeah, so says, it's okay. I worked with a gentleman at Planet Fitness. He was one of our members. He was one of the nicest members. His name was Faya and he would come in every day and he always wanted to help our staff and clean.

And he would always tell us it's okay, no matter what we were going through and like, just helping out. And he was one of the nicest, gentlemen. So he would help our staff clean and walk around and replace the paper towels with them. And he just made everybody's day happy and enjoyable. He loved music and dancing. And so I got that for him when I left Planet Fitness a few years ago and got my unicorn from Louie and not only did I get the sticker made, I got the tattoo. And then another friend, Matt, who owns Blueprint.

graphics, they made me a t -shirt for Boston and then I also sold t -shirts as another fundraiser. So a lot of people that were out there along the course to have my t -shirt and seeing them where it was really cool. That's incredible. You are amazing. So back to your first marathon, the cheap marathon, you mentioned your toes might not survive. What was the end result? Did the toes make it?

All the toes made it and I didn't lose a toenail until this Boston. man. So this all happened really fast because that was twenty twenty two. That was like when we started this podcast. So your running was kind of like it's kind of new and fresh, but it seems you've really taken taking the lead here. You kind of lead the math leads and you say we're going to go and do this hill that turns into hills. And you have all these routes picked out and you know what you want to do for training. You've

really taking this in and taking the lead. I don't want to say that like I'm the math lead because I do think it's like a group together and we always come up together with like what we're training for, who needs to run what miles this day. And if I don't need to run 10, but somebody else needs to run 10, I'm going to run 10 with them if I'm available. And it's we have a group chat. So even if they can't make it on Saturday because of work schedules, but they're running on Friday, they let us know to see if anybody else can run. And we've added new people into the group chat too. So it's now

Eric (41:59.638)
up to like, think like six people. like anybody can join. And I feel like you have to do it, you at least have to run with us once to be part of the group chat. at least get our personalities in there. And getting memes and everything together. So I do think it's like a group and that we all just pick everything and if something's too hard, we cheer each other on and up Wellington Hill and pushing each other.

That's what we're really there to motivate each other. What I always put on my little hashtag for my Facebook, because I don't have Instagram, is smile for your miles. My mom always read me a poem and it was smile a while, while you smile another will smile. And then there'll be miles and miles of smiles. So that's something that I always had and it was near dear in my heart. So I always think smile is like just another version of mile.

and support, motivate, inspire, love yourself and empower. And if you can do that in one mile at a time, you're gonna just rule the world. That's wonderful. I resonate with that. Because if you're not enjoying yourself and you're just being miserable, like why are you doing it? Like you need to reevaluate the whole point of running and if it serves you. So just trying to enjoy yourself and keeping a smile on your face. Definitely it helps.

Yeah, you take less muscles to smile than you do to frown. So even when I'm running, if I see another runner or walker or biker, I always go, call a great day. And she's friendly, too. I find so many people who just don't like they want to like tunnel vision and just ignore you. I'm like, well, well, Erica, I wait. She's a morning runner. I'm not. Are you not a morning runner?

I try running in the morning and I got back into it actually last week I ran three days in the morning. So I'm trying to stay motivated. But I do like running after work. It just kind of like eases everything. If you had a stressful day, just kind of like walk it away. That's my jam. So we're in the same boat as you. We love running later in the day, but we're trying to be morning runners, especially me. So the other day Erica joins me for a morning run and her observation

Eric (44:16.77)
these people are so friendly in the morning. Everybody says hi. They woke up on the right side of the bed. And apparently by the time I run in the afternoon, everybody's like grumpy again. I don't know. The coffee is worn off. Exactly, that must be the case. Don't even look at me. It makes me did the one like two days later in the afternoon and there was four times the people out there, but like three or four of them gave you nothing, no eye contact. And then the other one of four maybe gave you an eye contact or maybe like a

It's very hit or miss in the afternoons. I don't know. Yes. I did today on my run and get chewed on by a motorcyclist. They were laughing. Yes, I can do it. I do enjoy that. Let me ask you this question, actually, because you're both women runners.

Are you okay when someone drives by and they say something like, good job, keep going, or like, we're talking, you don't know they're coming, a motorcycle or a driver, especially if it's a guy, if they say something to you running. I'm not saying cat calls. I'm just saying any type of motivational thing, like you're doing great or good job, or maybe it's one of those positive, but you can't tell if it's sarcasm type comments. Are you up for that? Or are you like, hey, sometimes don't talk to me? Both you, it's a question on both of

say thanks, but like put it up there. The honks are what like irritate me when someone just like lays on the horn. I don't like that because it scares me. but if they like yell something out the window, positive or just go thank you. I'm the same way. I'd like to interpret it as a good thing. Like if somebody is saying something to me, like, hey, nice, nice work or I don't know what they're even saying, but I would like to.

think the best of people that they're trying to cheer me on. They may be totally not doing it for a good reason, but I am forever an optimist. I had a guy one time on a bike. did a rolling. They actually call it like an Idaho stop sign, because I think in some states on a bike, you don't have to come to a complete stop. New Hampshire is not that state yet. But this guy pulls up to me and starts yelling at me because I didn't come to a complete stop. I did one of those rolling ones. I'm looking.

Eric (46:35.458)
The word I just use all the time, whether it's negative or thank you, I go, thanks, man. And they don't know what to say half the time. That's my thing. Hey, one thing we all kind of live on now is group chats. Like Erica and I are in multiple group chats. You're talking about a group chat you're in. I need to know because I can tell you're on an Android because Riverside tells me you're on an Android. Erica and I are Android people, but I know there's people in your group

Nicole, I'm calling you out. Who gives us hell for being on an Android and we ruined the whole group chat. So I just want to say kudos to you team Android over here. Do they give you hell too? They don't give me hell, but they always will like my stuff. So then it just like repeats it over and over again. I will say it's more like the group chat. We're in is like a Facebook group chat. So we can see emojis. Those are great.

I like those too. It's actually Eddie's family. I'm in a group chat with them and they all have iPhones, so they like and love and laugh at things and I don't have that option, so I use emojis. And I don't know if they like that or not, but that's what I do. I am so in the same boat. I love having an Android. Well, me being a millennial too, I guess I just love emojis anyway. So long live those. I'm gonna use them forever. Okay, so you ran the cheap marathon.

You qualify, that's your first marathon, your toes survived. Then you're training for Boston, you got hurt in February playing field hockey, blocking a shot, saving a goal, something along those lines. But Boston was your second marathon, we're talking Boston 2023, right? The year it rained? So I did do Bay State in between as a training marathon.

I was doing really well and pacing and my goal was just to stay consistent throughout the marathon. And then this pacer group comes running through with their orange flag and it's probably like a group of 20 people and I'm off to the side. So I'm not like in the middle, but I'm off on the edge of the road. They didn't move all that at all. And I fell down an embankment into a bush. No, and luckily one person did stop at the very end and helped me out of the bush. But I was like all cut up and scraped and it was, it

Eric (48:58.446)
on like the last like, it's like a loop, so was on the last loop. And I did not enjoy that marathon just because of that one incident. I actually suppose - I those must've been afternoon runners. The non -friendly ones. No smiles, yeah. No. Like they sounded like an army coming through and I did finish, I finished 324. I was just excited to be done at that point. And That's fast.

324 and running into a bush. Yeah. taking the bush with me. the typical type of run into a bush. This was falling into a bush. But yeah, that was my second marathon. And that's when I was just like, oh, one more and that's it. Really? Okay. And so obviously we know that wasn't it, but then it was Boston and you got hurt in training. So how was that whole winter time training, getting hurt, dealing with this probably the first time

Winter training in New England is brutal enough. but running on a toe, that's not 100 % and knowing that like, can either stop now and not do it or just keep going. And that was my goal. Just keep going, run the miles that you can. I have very nice friends, Taylor and Brandon Vu in, and they donated me a treadmill that they weren't using and it fits perfectly in my guest room. So there is no floor space.

and it went right in there and I was able to train on the treadmill and do some like, because running on a treadmill, I don't have a TV in there. So it was just like staring at a wall and It's a good mental battle. Yeah. Really. So I would try to do an hour if it was like bad weather out and icy. I live on a main road to get out there. If they didn't shovel or plow it, was, I wasn't going out there. So all You don't want to risk that. No, that's,

Can be dangerous. So one hour every night on the treadmill. What toe was it? It was my left big toes. The big toes are the pinky toe. Those are the worst to her. The middle one you can do without. You can like cut those off, you'll be fine. Yeah. And you'd be surprised. grandma lost her toe for diabetes and shoot, was asked a little manicurist if she would get a discount. That's a great sense of humor.

Eric (51:24.814)
I love it. I love it. So how was the Boston Marathon then? I mean, it was, the weather wasn't terrible. I know it rained, but we were there. We were cheering at mile 19 and, we didn't know you then though. That's, that's too bad. I did see you guys and I knew you guys were a podcast and I would try to catch you on Facebook and I have you on audible. So I do listen. first year. Wow. She's been falling for a while. Oh my God. Um,

And Erica, she follows our Facebook page that we never do anything on. It's amazing. Yeah, you post it. I like it. I'll listen. It helps me with training and staying motivated. Boston 23 was, I was hyped. I was ready to go. The expo, I went down and did the 5K with Nicole and Blake. And then they were so kind and Justine was there.

They walked me over to the expo to get my bib and I was just like in awe. had never like been to anything like that. And realistically it was like holding my hand. is where you go to get your bib. Take a picture of this here, Jen. This is the wall. And I had already bought in every Boston apparel online before so I didn't have to go to the store. But it was the smart thing that I had ever done. Just being in there, finding my name on the wall was like really memorable because normally

My name's Stelt Wong with everything, so I was pumped that my name was Stelt, right? So that was awesome. And then my friends, my parents had a house in Totem Pole. So shout out to all my Totem Polers in Freedom, New Hampshire. Joni and Tom, they live outside of Hockington, like two miles from the start. I was able, they were so kind to host

for the night before Boston and then bring me as close as I could the morning of the marathon, so I didn't have to stand outside or wake up at five and take a bus. So I'm writing this down when I run Boston State with Jennifer's friends. They would be more than happy to host everybody and anybody. It was amazing. So it was raining, but I was still energized. had my poncho on. I was ready to go. Joni left me with the nice police officer.

Eric (53:44.652)
the closest gate that she could. And I walked in and just seeing the crowds was amazing. And the number of porta potties, was like, wow, there's for everybody. But there wasn't. That was really cool. Like just the start and everyone was so excited. Whether the weather was like rainy or hot, they were just like there to run and cheering you on and just crossing that start line was amazing. Joni took me down the night before so I could physically stand on it, touch

to see the security guard at night was amazing. He was trying to figure out my phone as an Android. Trying to take a photo. It's not that hard, people. It's not that hard. Don't judge us from the color of our text. It's not that hard. It was so fun, though. And I was ready. I had done my research, talked to people that have run it, talked to people that were training for it, like, take it easy down the hill. Just enjoy it. My goal was at every mile,

film a little video and stay for it so I could like just keep it in a capsule that I did this. And I knew Eddie and his family were gonna be at mile 15. I had people along the way that I had mapped out that they said they were gonna be in areas, but I knew specifically where Eddie was gonna be, cause he had shown me. And I had my best friend Taylor and her kids were supposed to be at like mile six, mile eight. So I'm looking for them, looking for them. They missed me. I missed them. That was really sad.

But we'll go back to them later because I do have a really cute story about them seeing me. And just seeing people that I didn't know were going to be there and they were like yelling my name and like that was like amazing. that, 2023 I didn't have my name on my shirt because I didn't know that was a thing. But people were cheering me on with that was really cool. The clouds just like, I was just in awe because it was raining out and cold and that kind of weather I love.

which I didn't love before I started training for a marathon, but knowing that kept you night. then mile 15, I was so excited. My parents were there and Eddie and his mom and Shana and Matt, were all there at mile 15. And I was so pumped. was like running up to them and people that like didn't know me, they were cheering and ringing bells

Eric (56:02.498)
It was amazing. like timed it. was like, can only stay for five minutes and then I gotta go. That's a long time. That is a long time. I didn't stay for this, but I my mom wanted to take pictures. So I was trying to give her something. There you go. So, and then they met me, Eddie and his mom at the finish line. So I knew they were gonna be there. My parents went home because of the weather and I'm coming to the finish and I just hear someone screeching my name.

And I was like, my God, it was my friends, Casey and Jess from the backyard. And they had spent all Bay at the finish line. I either popped a bottle of champagne and I made it to the halfway point. I saw their Snapchat later, but they were filming me. I was filming them and I come across the finish line and that's when WMUR had pans. So there's me in my bright pink and blue hat coming across the finish. My dad happened to be in the hospital that day. So he couldn't be at the race. So him and the nurses were in his room and they looked.

But back here had me on every TV I had friends that I hadn't like speed in person from like high school and college like sending me videos of it so that was probably the coolest thing because that's like one in like five million to like happen that right across the TVs and I was like dead center they like zoomed in on me like I was that crazy girl with a giant smile on her face because my mom asked me at mile 15

Do you know you're the only one smiling? Everyone looks miserable. Why are you so happy? Because it's Boston and I it. I did it. I like got my bucket list. It was amazing. I finished 324. I was so excited because I knew that qualified me again to run for 2024. So was like, I did it. I can do it again. And because I was just so excited to run again.

I love how your attitude already changed where you were from the first couple of marathons, you're like, I have to do this again. And now you're like, I get to do this again. It's awesome that the flip, it's great. She's turning into Maurice. Maurice is like, we get to do this. Positive panda. It's a real thing. And I don't think I truly, honestly never felt it until Boston. And I don't know if it's the crowds or just

Eric (58:21.742)
It was Boston, but like I felt it. I was like riding on cloud nine and it was like a month later. was still riding it. Oh, it's all of the above. Boston is its own entity. We'll get into Boston 24 in London soon, but I want to know you've mentioned Eddie a couple of times and I know there's a love story here and we've had a few people share their love stories on the pod before that happened to just be they meet at a race or at a run and I think you met Eddie.

at an event I wore the t -shirt for it, Reach the Beach. Yeah. So I was running a Reach the Beach Ultra and we needed one of our runners, Crystal, she got injured and we needed another runner. So I reaching out to everybody and I was like, I need a runner. like, no, I'm never doing that. I'm sorry. I'm already on a team, can't help you. And it happens in message, my sign says,

And he's a friend that had met my neighbor, Casey, out hiking. And it was a one -time meet and they became friends. And then Chris came to Casey's house for a fire. I happened to be here. He's like, I'm a trail runner. And I was like, perfect. So I reached out to him and I was like, Hey, I know you don't run a lot of roads, but do you want to run? I'll reach the beach ultra. He's like, I totally would. I I mean Colorado that weekend. However, my childhood friend, Eddie was a runner.

and I think he would be perfect for your team. So here's his information, message him on Facebook, he'll get back to you. I messaged Eddie on Facebook, I'm like, hi, my name's Jennifer, I'm looking for a team member for Reach the Beach Ultra, would you be interested? And his response is, no. And then the next week, I was like, I'm even on a team, good luck.

Very, very succinct. Okay. Would you know any other runners that would be interested in running an alter at the mixed team or just in it to have fun? And he's like, I'll ask around. Okay. my God. So he gives me like another name, I reach out to them and they're not interested in finding someone. Eddie did ask me a couple more questions like, I noticed you're a runner and like, how did like,

Eric (01:00:40.686)
Like all about any realize he screwed up by just the one word answer short He finally went creep in your profile. He man. I screwed that one up I just got people away from a reach of each ultra So we started talking about like running and training for Boston He's run Boston multiple times as a bandit. Don't get him in trouble

He's a bandit runner. And he's on New York and Chicago as actually Eddie, not as a bandit. And we just started talking and then reached the beach came and I knew his team name. And I don't think he knew my team name, but I saw him from a distance. It was actually at Camp Calumet, which is two miles from my parents' house in Friam. So they were there holding up signs and I saw him and my friend was like, go talk to him. I was like, no, no, I'm good.

because we happened to park next to it ironically. And I rode on the side with passenger window and I was like, Hi, Eddie, it's Jennifer. Have a great race with like a little heart. And then it was all he's done for the whole time. And then he finally reached out and was like, would you like to go like on a date? And I was like, Yeah, what would you like to do? Would you like to go on a hike? And like out for dinner afterwards or something? like his style.

So I planned a hike at Unkannunik in Gothstown and then we were gonna just go downtown for dinner afterwards and I texted my mom, like, mom, I'm hiking Unkannunik with this guy I online. I'm gonna turn my tracker mode on Strava here on my garment and I want you to track me. and the sunset was really sad because it was like fall at this point. So we're up in Unkannunik and I knew how to get up and like down in the light time but I've never

done it really in the dark before, but he's a good navigator. He's an Eagle Scout. So he found our way down and we went out to dinner in downtown Manchester and he's from Andover, Mass. And he'd go out there and I told him like, we're talking at Veterans Park. I was like, wait, me get out of your car. I'm like, I don't know all those people in there. So we walked over to the first scene he's like.

Eric (01:03:04.462)
We're not as bad as Florida or California. Yeah. So it like a culture shock, I guess, from Andover Mass to Manchester, New Hampshire. And it all history from there. We went on a couple more dates. We did virtual dates, kind of like this. like, we cook our own dinner and then like just chat on the phone, like how our days were and everything for while.

and we would meet up for runs and we introduced our dogs. He has a border collie named Sonic who runs with us a lot and he would play my training runs for me for Boston for my long run. Sometimes he would bike next to me, but he bought. And if the dogs didn't get along, was it not gonna work out? Deal breaker. It was, because Oakley is a kind of an aggressive dog, especially food wise. We do have to still separate them for food, but Oakley liked Eddie because

told him, was like, let him meet you first and he'll smell like Sonic on you. And then when we introduced Sonic, Sonic's very playful and kind of passive, but he also likes to bop other dogs in the head. It's already just blessing them because it's sometimes holding on their head and like bless them. And they got along perfectly. Oakley will tell them he's had enough, but they're good. They're really good together. So yeah.

My favorite run Eddie has planned was in Boston. It was 16 miles eight miles out over the hills for a break hill and back and I tell was like I want to do like 16 18 miles so what mile like 15 he's like, oh is this good? I was like, let's go to the next light like up there. He's like, okay And afterwards we met up with some of his friends people his ultimate prizvy and they lived in the

So they went out to lunch with us afterwards. We actually on the run saw my friend, Rhianna Robert. She was training for Boston and she's yelling across like two lanes of traffic.

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just beeline it to her and he's like, my God, we're gonna die. And she came out to brunch with us and we made that a tradition. We ended up doing it this year again and Sammy came with us and Rhee was running that day with her charity again and we saw her and we all went out for brunch again. So it was really fun. So it's kind of our new tradition to run Heartbreak Hill down and back and then have brunch. And I'm always pre -planning in my head during runs what I'm having for food. I think you invited me to that

Think so we did was that because it was right after when we met yeah, that's right. what were you doing? That's probably something with the kids. Yeah, I think you had something with the kids. Yeah Yeah, awesome run and I'll do it again. I'll tell you where it wasn't I wasn't a hockey rink cuz that doesn't happen anymore no, I was you did like the end of

finals or something. had the state championship game. think I remember this very well now. You told me the date and I said, I'll be there unless I get the state championship game. Cause I was hoping I would. I did. then he gets the state championship. It figures. It might've been my last game. We'll see. don't know. I might take a leave of absence this year. It's been fun, but damn, my life is freaking busy. I can't believe I got the state championship game. You want to why I looked at my,

I had to pay my dues the other day and it goes based off how many games you referee. And so I didn't really have to pay a lot, $95. But I only refereed 21 games this year. That's so That's a long way down from what you've done in the past. to do 400 a year. Whoa. That's when I did high school and college and men's league and other stuff. is the first year I went just high school on Wednesday nights. I only did 21. So I don't even think I barely made

the amount you need to get playoff games, let alone the state championship. And I still got the state championship game. They wanted you. They wanted you. Playing favorites. was almost an upset. Oh, man. But we had no issues. It was a good game. I got to skate at the Verizon again. I still call it the Verizon, even though it's the SNU. I don't think I'm done, but I'm definitely like 10 games a year. Maybe I try to get playoffs again next year. I don't know. I keep saying I'm done and then

Eric (01:07:31.382)
I But it's nice to get a little extra income, right? No, it's not even worth it anymore in my mind. Really? It's just to do it for the pure joy. The income was great when you did like the men's leagues and the extra stuff. And it would be like doing your pro -am league or whatever you do for field hockey, right? You have referees there, I'm sure. No, we rent for ourselves. no? no way. I would go... That's even more fun. I bought both of my cars with men's league hockey money.

So that's where the money was at. would go and do it by myself. I'd get paid double and then I would make it like the high school games, $100, cool. But it's a lot of time, right? It's just a lot of time. So college, by the way, a little more money, not even worth it. Not even close. You're gone for eight hours to make 150 bucks. You got to drive pretty far to go to those games. I be gone. I would leave and drive three hours to get to a game 90 minutes early to do a game that goes two and a half hours, then to drive

three hours back, just. was fun though. got coffee thrown at me one time. It was amazing. almost hit me. Yeah, it was amazing. We waved off a goal with three seconds to go and over time, this huge rivalry game in Maine, was Colby versus Bowden. And that's like a big deal up there. We waved off a goal on the home team, Colby, with three seconds to go and over time. And someone hucked like a big

coffee or something and it right between me and my partner's face as we were talking. It was like, I don't know if we're going to get out of here alive. no. did the peltie box in college and did the stats for both men's hockey and men's and women's basketball. And the peltie box and stat box was in between both peltie boxes. So I just have to move and open the box for them. I don't know why they couldn't just lift the handle themselves, but I was there. Because you would cheat.

They would cheat and get out too early. And so was your job to make sure that door doesn't open until that one turns into a zero. it wasn't even that had to open it for them to get out. was to get in. They get in. I'm not the big guy. to look at them and do like, wait, wait. It was, I think it was a rivalry game. think it might've been nickels. And we had like, I feel like two lines in the Palate box. And then somebody said something and somebody said something and they started coming across my scat box.

Eric (01:09:50.798)
And one of the boys was like, pick me up and was like, no, you're over here. you. Hockey players, the nicest guys off the ice, but on the ice, man, we are brutal. We would even go at it as the referees. We'd go back and forth. Like that was some type of like respect. They would they would take it from us, too. Like if they were giving us shit, we would give it right back. And it just seemed to be like they they respected you better when you did

I did a lot of shit talking as a referee. My stepdad fast in place. I don't think he rests anymore, but he still plays in like a mensley. And when we were younger, he would bring us that night because my mom was like working and so he would bring us in. We'd wander the rink and he's like, now put your earplugs in because don't tell your mom what they're not. I love it. I love it. We got a little derailed here. Let's bring it not sorry.

I can't contribute to the hockey talk as much as you guys can, but let's talk about your 2024 Boston experience. But one question I have, after you ran Boston the first time, did this kind of plant the seed where, hey, I think I might want to do the six stars. I might want to go to London. So you had that in your head before going into your second Boston? Oh, yeah. I had it before I even ran Boston because I didn't know it was a thing. And then Eddie pulled me. was a thing. And I was

I can get a bigger medal? Well, I need a bigger medal because I did the BAA medley. And so I did the 5K, the 10K and a half. And I didn't know you got something if you like won it too. So I won my age group and I got a little wooden plaque thing and I didn't know that I did that. And I get this package in the mail. I I order several things on Amazon every day, but that's okay.

And I like pulling out this wooden plaque like you won your age group and I was like, that's really cool. And they give you a medal. best surprise. Yeah. And so I was like, if I could get a bigger medal, then I'll take it. Because doing the five K's when I worked for Planet Fitness and afterward, when I moved, I was like, why do I want to keep moving these stupid medals around? So I chucked them. They don't have any medals pre like training like for marathon.

Eric (01:12:15.474)
So now I'm trying to like savor my medals and it's not even like, I'll do try to go out and like beat my time and in like some of the races locally and it's not like trying to race anybody else. But I want to beat my time if I ran it previously. So that's always my goal. And if I know someone's in my age group, I do try to pass them. Very nice. Yeah, you got to use it. Absolutely. Yes. But

Once Boston ended 2023, I was like, okay, let's take a little breather. Let's get through the holidays. I still enjoy running, but I don't need to put in as much mile and then start planning it once the holidays are done. Um, bite at right before Christmas, there is a race at the backyard. It is an ugly sweater Tito's race. And I've done that and I've won my age group for the past like three years.

Well, the year before I did not, some girl out of nowhere came and beat me. And I was like, I'm coming back for vengeance. I'm winning this race. So I trained and I did a lot of sprint training cause it was four miles. So that was my goal was to sprint it out four miles. knew the route. I knew what to do. And the DJ saw me and he knew who I was. And he was like, Jennifer Ouellette returned for vengeance. gonna win this year? That's what a bad buddy I am.

And he kept saying it over and over again. so I was ready. I was ready to haul it. now Eddie was there with Sonic. It was Sonic's first race. So we were there to cheer him on. I was like, I'm leaving you. winning this race. And he was like, Have at it. Yep. And I just, when I practiced my splints, I ran a test if I could, and I did win my age group. So that put me like for the rest of the year,

I know that I can run fast, faster than I thought. And I was like, I'm going to crush Boston this year. I'm going to go under three 20. That's my goal for Boston. And that's what I was training at. And I did mill city with Nicole and I, she was introducing me to all these people and I met Amanda who's very fast. And she introduced me to our relay teammates, Sammy Preventer and Sammy and I are talking and she looks really familiar. And I was like, I probably just saw

Eric (01:14:36.238)
at other races, come to find out we're from the same hometown. We're four years apart. We knew multiple friends and she also was training for Boston. She qualified and she lives in Bedford. I was like, well, let's go ahead. I have a couple friends training for marathons. Let's all try to get together. Saturday mornings. I bark 10 Friday nights. So I would prefer if we didn't do anything before 8 a .m. That's fair. Yeah. No, very like accommodating to accommodate 8, 8 .30 for me, depending on how late I got

And that's a nice time slot. Yeah, it's still early enough. You could get stuff done in the day if you have to do like long distance. And we started running together, I want to say mid January. Maybe like right after the New Year is when we all started running together and training for Marathon because Jenna Mason was training for Maine Co's. Jenna Friedist was training for an ultra. And then Sammy and I were training for Boston and it was just

perfect timing, we start our training. I would do my fast miles during the week, trying to really work on that speed and then slow it down so I could pace with the girls and just work on that consistency and slowing my heart rate down for those longer distances. was, treating was going great. It was feeling good and I had a lot of stomach issues since the holidays and that was my biggest downfall

I don't know what was going on. just felt like my stomach was always upset, very like bubbly and like, I just never felt really that great. And I thought I was over it. And I, it just kept coming back. every once in a while I was like, I just feel like crap. Like I just won't eat this or that. And like trying to change the diet and yeah, I couldn't figure it out. And I was like, well, I'm just going to push through

push through it's fine I'm gonna be fine why go see a doctor you haven't been since 2013 years you're still alive yeah don't tell my mother and I Sammy's first Boston so I was so pumped from her her mom's like an amazing runner and has done Boston and Sammy's done Chicago and New York so she was like trained and ready to run so we were training we were doing some speed workouts during the week together at that point

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comes for the expo. and I took Sammy to the expo. It was great to see it again. And we got to go slower and just enjoy it, take pictures everywhere. Eddie was our paparazzi taking pictures of us. We went to the stand -out. job, Eddie. Yes. He is so good at when I want to take pictures and videos when they're running. And if you need to know anything about Eddie's life, I make his social media.

Perfect. All our activities, I post, his family and friends are very grateful that they'll get to know that Eddie does stuff. And he was so good. He stopped at every booth, he held our bags. It was amazing. What a good man. Yes. And he drove too. we drove a couple miles away because Sammy and I wanted to get, because we didn't sign up for the 5K, but we still wanted to get some miles in that day. So he said.

on there, that's fine, then it's drawn to the expo and back. And then I don't even get talking about they're not putting the bottle openers in the bags anymore for the runners. You have to go to Sam Adams. You have to go to Sam Adams. So you back to the car and he's like, all right, girl, are you done? we're like, would you mind driving us to Sam Adams? Did you make a plane? He's like, sure, why not? We can have lunch and go to Since we're here, let's go.

I don't drink. I typically do not drink, but I was like, I'll go with you. We have our bibs. We know we get a discount there. So we went, they gave us 50 % off to all of us for the tour. And we did the tour and Sammy and Eddie had some beers. I wanted to taste the mild 26th beer. And I had a couple of sips and that was like it for me. We had lunch. It was a great day. We got our bottle openers. We got t -shirts and Sammy and Eddie bought like

a case of beer and it was just a great day to end before like the start of the marathon. And I felt really good. I was ready to go stay with Joan and Tom again. Eddie and my best friend Chris from growing up drove me down. We stopped and we saw the Spencer statue. If you haven't seen it, it's super adorable. We got all the dogs. Yeah, we had a photo shoot with all three dogs and Spencer before we went to Joan and Tom's and it was great. I had been keeping an eye on the weather and cause gets just saying was getting hotter.

Eric (01:19:14.766)
and hotter and I was like, haven't seen heat since August. And so I oh God. And I said, didn't do that. It great day for spectating. I'll tell you that. It was great. Like I was like, wasn't cold at the start line. I was like, this is awesome. And my stomach was like, okay, you're doing good. You're doing good. I felt really good at the start cruising for like 12 miles doing like six, 57, 10 pace. I'm going fast. I feel good. My legs feel good. My ulceral tips. And I was like, oh no.

no, my stomach. do not feel good. no. I have three miles to Eddie. He has some extra water, has a couple extra electrolytes. I'll just take that when I get there. My best friend Taylor and her kids are there cheering me on so they know they can see me. And I get there and I'm like, move it children. I'm gonna throw up. no. And they just want a picture and they're like, I'm too young. And I was like, I'm going to throw up on you. I'm really sorry.

And I go in a bush and I felt for like 20 minutes. Yeah. Oh no. Yeah, it was like everything and anything I had eaten like throughout the race. I tried like taking like some you can, which is like one of the only gels that I can take that doesn't upset my stomach. And everything was out of me. Eddie's mom is a nurse and she's looking me over like, are you sure you want to keep going? And I was like, I want to finish.

Like I don't care what my time is, I just want to finish. hands me a handful of blueberries. She's like, well, eat a couple of these and have some water and I'll let you go. And I was like, okay. So I do. And my mom's texting Eddie, texting Chris, texting Taylor, like what is wrong? Why isn't she going? Something wrong with the app? And they're like, she's okay. She's just not feeling that great. My mom thought I got hurt or something, cause I just like died. Yeah, the tracker. Yeah. That's, man.

So I just made the plouncer myself to not push it, because I still had London. And I was like, all right, I'm going to jog to the water station, take a little sip of water. Also one that carries my water with me in these two little water bottles. And I usually take those and that's good for the race. But I was like, all right, dip the cold water, take the cold towels from everybody. And seeing that everybody was not doing well was also like, I'm not the only one out here. It definitely wasn't you, yeah.

Eric (01:21:35.552)
And then when a girl like beeline it across me to like stroll up onto the crowd, I was like, OK, just keep going. Just keep going. Just keep going. I'm going to finish. And that was my goal was just to get to the end. And when I saw when you come around, you can see the finish line. I just sprinted, took out my camera because I wasn't even in the mood to film every mile at this point anymore. I just wanted to get done. But I wanted that. And I was like, I want it. I started filming and I see Eddie. see my friend, Jenna and her twin sister, Kelly.

I see Cory Gerard up in the stands. think I'm like hallucinating because I was like, I think I could not be here. Like, why are they here? It was just like, I was crying because I was finishing and it was done. I felt much better. I didn't feel as like gross and throw upy. And I was just happy to be done. If you don't know Boston in the finish line, you're not done when you finish Boston. You still have like a mile to still walk to the end to your family.

-huh. And then they have to find you. So we always meet at O because that's my last name. And I was like, that's so far. Yeah, we're so exhausted at that point after the whole ordeal. my gosh. And then they just tack on, why not do the 27th mile? Here you go. Here's your tin foil. Here's your metal. Here's a water. They're looking at you, making sure you're not gonna pass out.

I see Blake, he's one of the volunteers at the finish. He gives me a hug and I was like, I just need to find Eddie. And he's like, okay. Walk down, I find this nice family to like walk to my stuff so I can use the poor party because they're waiting for somebody. And, and then Eddie, Chris and Eddie's mom come out and I have this flag that I bought and some all my fundraisers and Evelyn signed it with like well wishes on it. And it's something that

for the last two Boston's I just take a picture with and he's like, you want your flag? Take a picture. was like, yeah, I do. Cause I'm done. And Sam, I couldn't find Sammy, but I found Sam Mugen and he was there and he was like, you did a great job. You're done. I was like, I just want to find you son. That's all I wanted. And I think it was one of the most emotional races, but I'm very happy to do it again in 2025. And it was just like, it's still one of those races

Eric (01:23:59.47)
just like breaks your heart and like fills your heart at all at the same time. many emotions. Oh my gosh. One thing that has to happen next year in 2025 is we have to see you because there's two years now we have it. Now the first year we didn't know you, but you knew us. This last April we were tracking you and we were looking for you and whenever like what mile was it that you threw up at? that 15? Okay. So we're four miles later.

Somewhere we lost you on the tracker and we're like, don't know where she is and we missed you. I think we missed three people like the 20 something we tracked and we're like, no. But then we thought we've only really met you once or twice. So we didn't really know what to look for. We're just like, look for someone who's really fast and start yelling Jen. Start yelling Jennifer and someone's gonna be like, it's me. That's what happens when you him a megaphone and he's just gonna yell names. I got the megaphone. I just started yelling everyone's name I saw.

I was just in zone two, like you could have probably like yelled my name and I was like, just keep moving forward. Just keep moving forward. That was Justine. We yelled Justine's name probably eight times. And then when she's 30 feet ahead of past us, she actually turns around like, was someone calling my name? Oh my God, it was you. So next year we have to make sure we'll have a cooler with whatever you want.

If you, you'll be a little more experienced. You might know what you need next time you have an upset stomach or something, or you're going to puke. Hopefully you don't. But we got you covered. Yes. I think I had my stomach under control, but who knows? We'll have an on ice day. but I had all in control for London. and I was very nervous because I did lose a toenail in Boston, my first toenail and it was hanging on for life.

And I was like not about to lip it off. was like, it'll be fine. So I taped it up and we left Wednesday night. So I worked remotely Tuesday and Wednesday because I knew I didn't have enough PTO for the entire year. had to like capitalize on working remote and we flew out Wednesday night, red eye into Iceland, did six hours in Iceland, walking around Reykjavik with no toenail and my shoes.

Eric (01:26:21.266)
would not fit so I had to my slippers, my moccasins. no. feet were so swollen and we backpacked it so my backpack was probably weighing a hundred pounds on me. did that and then we jump on a flight from Iceland to London, land in London around eight, get to a hotel. I apologize. Oakley is just a mess right now. buddy.

The name of this podcast is going to be Jennifer, Olette and Oakley. Just kidding. I keep giving him toys and he doesn't know what he wants. We're dog lovers, or at least I am. love dogs. I love dogs. I just don't have any dogs. Hey, there she is. there's both of them, Oakley and Sunny. Thunder Buddies. Thunder Buddies. Thunder Buddies for life.

Yeah, he's just a very emotional dog. But yeah, we land in London. My feet were so swollen and I was very worried that my running shoes wouldn't fit and I would have to run in my moccasins. Well, you've had very little time at this point from between Boston to hopping on a flight to allow your body to recover. So that's a lot of stress and I could see how well, plus getting on a plane right after running a marathon. That's so much like the swelling

add up after a while. Are you marathon maniac, by the way? I wouldn't say that. Erica, tell her what I'm talking about. the marathon maniacs, it's a club and you qualify by doing two marathons within like 16 days or three of them within 90 days. So with your back to back marathons, you definitely qualify. basically this club

you'll recognize them everywhere. People will wear singlets and it'll say Marathon Maniacs on it. And you get some perks for being in the club. You get like race discounts and like runners warehouse discounts. like there's little perks here and there, but it's just fun to be part of a club. Like one of the crazy ones. for it. Yep, so you Well now I'm have to research it and get into it. It's fun. There's a lot of cool people.

Eric (01:28:35.776)
I love the perks. I don't get lot of perks from not being on Instagram. So I have friends that like do the rabbit and the noon and all those places when you try to join for something, they're like, what's your Instagram handle? they're like, if you don't have one, like, sorry, we don't want you. I'm like, okay, nevermind. That was me. That was me when we met. I was like, hold on, I'll have to log on to Facebook to find you.

But enough about perks. I want to hear more about this London trip. Talk a little bit about that recovery because it seems like you didn't recover. You went to Iceland and then you flew in a red eye and I'm sure you're going to go sightseeing. Yep. You saw all the sights in London. I'm a planner. So I had been planning probably since I got into the London charity without word bound that what I wanted to see, I wanted to see everything. You're only there for four days and I wanted to see the Tower of London.

the bridge, everything. I wanted to go up in the eye. And I know Eddie has a fear of heights. So I was like, if you don't want to go up, I'll go up by myself. But I would really love if you would be there. And he was like, I'll do it. I'll do it. And I was like, OK, perfect. So I planned this whole thing of where we need to go and when we needed to go. And he's my navigation. He could get us around town blindfolded. he also has this great friend.

from London, Mick Foy, who was running the London Marathon too. So he ran Boston in 2023. We were able to meet up and hang out with him in Boston. And then he was able to meet us in London and take us around as well and see his town. And we were leaving the hotel. Mick was meeting us Friday night, Saturday morning, but we were all staying at the same hotel. So it'd be easier. So Mick could walk

to the start line so I wouldn't have to go alone and navigate the tube because I was nervous I was gonna get lost even though it was like just follow the runners, they'll lead you there. And I was like, well, I get lost. I've been lost in races and ran additional miles. So we were going to the expo and I knew where it was. I gave Eddie the directions. He navigated the tube. We met people along the way. This wonderful, nice woman named Jen who was from London but lived in Boston now came back to run the marathon.

Eric (01:30:57.838)
she led us to the expo and everything. Mick actually went the day before and got our bibs and t -shirts. I had to pick up my charity shirt though. And I was getting it for the charity. I could get it like my name on it, which was really cool. so I did that and we went down to a couple of booths. First the Boston marathon. And I don't know this for people coming out of the country, but you can't get any of the London marathon apparel in America.

I have found that to be true and that's very annoying. Wait, you can't even order it online or pre -order? ship it to you. They don't ship it. But can you pre -order it and then just pick it No? No, I tried. like, was gonna pick out stuff, but he didn't wanna like pick out the wrong size. And he was like, it seems like there's a lot of stuff in your size, so go and like shop. And so that was like one of the things that we did. And I found my name on the wall, cause they do the wall too, which is really cool.

and I was able to try on stuff. they spell it right? They spelled it right. I'm now all sticks, that's like the goal is for all sticks to spell it right. So two down, four to go. Two down, four to go. Don't read out a letter, don't add any extra letters. So I got like my jacket, which I really wanted and just a t -shirt, some leggings, this really cool sweatshirt that had like mittens. I don't know if you have one of those for running. cool.

yeah, but I feel like I now like the watch spot and thumb holes and then these little flaps that flap over for mittens Thought it was the coolest thing got one of those spent probably too much money on a barrel But Boston hands out little pins for the Boston Marathon every year So I have two of those and I thought the London would do it too But apparently they don't my goal was in London to get like a pin from something we did since they didn't do that. So that was our goal

After the expo, we went and we did the tour of London via Jen. So we left the expo and we did the Tower Bridge, which has like the glass floor and we walked there. So we walked there. We got to go on the glass floor, which I was like super pumped. I was sitting on the floor, walked across it, ran across it and

Eric (01:33:15.022)
took a little convincing, but I was able to get Eddie to actually walk across the glass part. I'd like to see how he would do if you guys go to Chicago, because they have the 360 Tower and Willis Tower, which I think it's formerly the Sears Tower, but they have walkout things with the clear floors. can just see straight down and you're like 80 floors up. I feel like that's not his cup of tea. No, he's an engineer, so he knows that it's Strubley Sound, like it's semi -strand.

Yeah. And that's the only part of the tour. He was like 100 % in four. we did like you tore through and you go to like the boiler room and you see all like the mechanical stuff and how the bridge works. And that was really cool. I think it cost us like 10 euros to do this. And we were like one of five that went up when we went up, when we came back down, there was like a line of like 200 people over like, Ooh, we hit that at a good time. Nice. Um, I told him, was like, okay, I want to go to the tower of London and let's get lunch. There's street carts better like right around there too. So we did that.

really good tacos because that's my like number one meal is tacos. So street food tacos, our own guided tour of the Tower of London, which was really cool and it didn't seem overly crowded. You go in, take all the pictures, tour everything, see the history, hear the history. We then went to see Big Ben, which we learned Big Ben is the bell and it's the Tower Elizabeth. I learned that from a six -year -old standing in line.

I didn't know that. I know. They don't teach us that in America. They really don't. they don't. Her mom was running it. We met them at the eye in standing in line, which was really cool. So they got my name, they got my bib, and they tracked me and they actually saw me along the course, which was really cool. I was able to give the two little girls high fives because I knew they were going be at mile four. And I was like, I'm never going to see these people again.

And these two cute blonde girls was able to see them they were adorable So that was really cool. We did the eye which was beautiful. It was amazing. We did it sunset Amazing nice playing it that way, but that's how our timeline ended up working How high does that thing go? I know exactly what you're talking about. I want to go on it one day I've never been over

Eric (01:35:34.638)
That thing goes pretty high, right? It's like huge. really high, but it's slow. It's not super fast, but it's like a 30 minute ride to do one loop. Yeah. It was worth it. Worth the money. We're standing in line. It started raining. And then once we got into our little tube things, it stopped raining. meters. Oh, we Googled that. Which is, is 443 feet. There we go. Conversion. Math loss.

Eric (01:36:05.222)
Yes! Yes! On your slow days. Call me when you're running nines. We started, I told you, we started at 9 .30 and we got people down to 8 .30 so you can join Oh no, I believe you'll do it. You and Nicole and Samuel will get me there, I believe it, I really do, but we'll just start Stop where you're watching, never know how fast you're really running. Yeah, I don't look at it much anyways. Science. It's not working half the time lately.

I just want everything in London. I'll be able to keep up if I'm not talking. It's hard for me to do Jennifer. Yeah, that's you know, you're alive. All right, all right, all right. But no, if I'll tell you if I ever do a worlds, I'm taking you with me just to be my tour guide and plan the trip.

I planned it like down to like everything. knew what parks I wanted that were like in walking distance from our hotel. We went to Buckingham Palace. We missed the guard crossing and saying, but we got to see them. They like just stomp in front, which was pretty cool to see them just in their outfits and their hats and did the park. Funny thing is when we met up with Mick, we went to the Princess Diana park and he's like, I never knew this was a thing. I'm like, you're from here.

He came from a toilet park that he'd never been to and he thought that was must have liked Charles more than Diana. And he was just like, this is beautiful, I should bring my legs. There you go. Learn something new every day. know. One of the coolest things running for a charity was like some of the perks for running for a charity. So I did get perks. There you go. We got to run a free 5K with Red Bull.

So we met at their HQ in London and we got to try on like these European sunglasses, which were like a mix of like Gooders and Oakleys and they were really cool. And then we also got free Red Bull. I love coffee and caffeine. Eddie does not drink any caffeine. And he's like, these juices are great. Like how many of those have you had? He's like, too many of each flavor so far.

Eric (01:38:23.838)
Eddie. He's in for a surprise. He had a lot of energy that day. We did the 5K. They were like, have a fast group and a slow group. I was like, let's do the slow group. We did the tomorrow. And I want to see where they take us. And they were doing part of the course too, which was nice. But we did it backwards. So that was beautiful. And it was a little bit interesting because you're running through, like, during the marathon, the roads

closed, you're running down the road, very open, running with the 5k with the Red Bull. It was like running down like downtown Boston during like high traffic. They did stop frequently to make sure like everyone was with us, but they honestly, I, they didn't know who we were. Like we could have gotten lost. But they were very nice, super fun people, very energized. So that was awesome. Free Red Bull was great.

met some people from Boston that were running and they were doing the world majors. And I think they had Tokyo and Berlin left that were there. There was like six of them, all like local friends from Boston that met in like a running group. So that was really cool to meet people. I felt like we met Boston people throughout like our tour of London and Scotland, just cause Eddie always wears a Boston Red Fox hat. And then when we say wicked, people are like, are you from Boston? Where are you from?

I feel like that was my experience when I was out in London. We would see people and be like, eh? But we wound up seeing somebody and they're like, no, we just like the red socks. And they were from London. We're like, well, that's a little weird, but very cool still. And it's still a conversation starter. I don't do this as much anymore when I travel. But when I lived in Charlotte, North Carolina, I would always wear my Boston stuff. And whenever I traveled in the Charlotte area, going from one race to the other, I would wear a Bruins or a Red Sox hat or something.

and I would always get people to say hi to me in the airport. was great. It was so much. I'm going to start doing that more. yeah. I'm wearing our jackets to be able for Boston Marathon jackets in the airport. There are so many Boston runners like leaving the country or going to London. And that was a really cool experience.

Eric (01:40:39.976)
And then just wearing your jacket like a landlady so I swapped my Boston one out for my London jacket once I got there and I was just seeing all the London jackets that line green was the color and you could just see it like everywhere swarms of people throughout the city which is I felt like what Boston was and like in Boston you just see right around that time you see just the jackets everywhere and then like throughout the year you see them like sporadically and you'll go you ran a Boston Marathon?

in the Boston Marathon. And it's like a great feeling just to have that camaraderie with somebody too. Absolutely. So how did the race actually go for you? What was the weather like? It was cool, but sunny, so not raining. And Mick, we woke up, we had breakfast together at the hotel and he guided me through the tube. So I went and get lost and up. London's very different on how Boston starts. So you start in like one

but in different areas by your color. And you all start at the same time and like waves. And then you meet up around like mile three, all the waves just like that's where they all collide together, which was interesting to see. Cause I was like, a little, was like, that's interesting. Like, okay. And we, London is very known for the lab or costumes people wear, like local runners, charities, and they go all

There was a guy in front of us and I was like, think that's a cardboard washing machine. It looks pretty legit. It was a legit washing machine on his back. He had trained for like three years. He was in the news and he proposed to his girlfriend at the end. He like raised thousands and thousands of dollars, but he wore a legit washing machine. was like, I've I've seen some crazy costumes, but that, I think that one takes the

Was he like, you be my dryer as he got down on a knee? Will you be my dryer? Will you be the dryer to my washer? my God. Wow. It was just so weird. And I was like, somebody were flying in minion costumes, a banana. There's a guy carrying a bicycle, a road bike. had a helmet on and a bicycle. And I was just like, did he just join the marathon in his loft, but he had a bib on? I was like.

Eric (01:42:54.168)
Who chooses your costume and what? This is a great race and I've seen a bunch of people do it where if you can pick the most obscure costume, you have a really good chance of getting into the Guinness Book of World Records. There's a guy I follow on Instagram. I need to look up what his Instagram handle is, but he's in it a few times for being the fastest person to run the London Marathon in full chainmail, like armor kind of thing. such random shit.

Like the creativity is incredible. I'm just blown away by these people. The weight of some of the costumes and like they're big and like tall. There was a guy like dressed as like Big Ben and like. I see something like that where they couldn't cross the finish line because they were too tall. Somebody had to like help tip him over and get him under the line. Volunteers are like Ben, Ben! Look at them!

If anyone wants to run dressed up as stoolie, jump in my DMs. I'll find you a stoolie costume. I'll keep mentioning it to people. I want to learn London in costumes. But it was like just so cool to be with like people from like everywhere again, because I just came off of Boston and met so many people at the start line there. And now you're meeting like you're standing in your Coel, which

way different because I felt like it was less clouded, you're in a field, not super packed, and you can tell, you could hear music from like different areas. was very mellow. I feel like we either did not have a DJ, like they didn't show up or they were like very relaxed, but you could hear like down the line, I feel like all the people in the costumes like, getting ready for the bass, god, they're jamming.

I tell where they got more serious to like be serious runners down the line. But there was a crowd of people like and everybody because Nike had just put out the Alpha flies. Everybody had Alpha flies on and that's what everybody was talking to you about was like Alpha flies that's an Alpha flies that now that I'm running in shoes that are like $60 from like 2018. Love it. Love it.

Eric (01:45:15.086)
And I was like, I do want to try them and see like what the difference is. But yeah, was like, yeah, look at my little shoes. I love what you're running. That's all that matters. As long as you're comfortable. if like Eric says, look good, feel good. Yep. I did get out the flies. I tried them on in London. Amazing shoe. Running them twice. Tammy let me try on her pair because we're just about the same size. And I was

hold, I will spend the money. want to see what the difference is. And I do love my barefoot running shoes, but they just like the push they give you a little extra. I do want to prove myself that I can run like under back at three 14 in my regular fly nets.

and not be awful flies, but I'm also like, they'll attempt to be like, these just make me feel so good after a lot of time. You gotta do it for science. just gotta test them out. No free edge, Nike. I know. Just picked up 10 minutes off your marathon, not a big deal. I'm like, will it cause a tendon? Like make me swallow? I'm a little nervous, but we're gonna train throughout this training for Chicago.

But London was amazing. They say the Boston crowds are spectacular and really motivate you. Those London crowds, let me tell you, they have marching bands. They have like a pride parade on the side. It was insane. had people just like bring out their own drum sets in their yard. have like just people are hanging on their balconies because

You love the so many blows of London. Everyone was being differently. You could definitely tell the different cultures of them and like the neighborhoods. It was awesome. streets are a little bit wider. I felt like they were. You do kind of loop around. So Eddie was able to navigate and see me in four different spots. That's a race. And we found that the two wasn't super crowded when we just traveled on ourself. He did say it was a little bit crowded.

Eric (01:47:30.318)
Throughout, but everyone was going to the same place. So you just all got on and it was free for that day. So it was like, everyone's trying to go through to see their loved ones and their friends and trying to get to multiple spots, which was amazing. Just being able to see him and knowing that I had that support there. I did wave him off a few times like, don't need that. He said he me like jowls and stuff. like, I did really good. He's like, that's it. Like my legs felt great. My toenail fell off the night before, so was perfect.

and I just felt really good. Like my stomach felt good. My legs felt good. I was smiling, just enjoying it. the charity Outward Bound was in two different spots throughout the race. So giving them high fives, looking for them. I saw a couple people in the same singlet as myself for Outward Bound. So I tried to like, Hey, hey.

Not morning running people. They were definitely afternoon running people. But finishing it was amazing. You come in front of Buckingham Palace. The one thing I regret was there was a guy at mile one, like the last mile, mile 25, and he's standing up donut, tacos, donuts. Those are my two favorite things. I wish I got a donut so bad.

Just grab a donut, because I slowed myself down, just enjoyed that last mile. I knew I making my time that I wanted. was like, grab that donut! But, I'm here cause I'm be a good code brown commandment, always grab the donut. the donut, always grab it. I like that, It was just beautiful. London just seems so clean. was...

sparkly. I don't know if they just cleaned it for the runners. If it's like that all the time. Hi, kitty. That's amazing. Yeah. But it was so beautiful. we might get a cat blocking it. It was blocking it. I'm not letting that happen again. She's a lady. She's not a scooter. Go back to the podcast. We might be. You too. But London, beautiful clean because I raised so much money for

Eric (01:49:43.414)
I won a seat in the grandstand. So Eddie got to go in the grandstand at the finish and see me come across too. So he said that was really cool. They had waters and snacks and stuff. were the dogs? We have an amazing dog walker, Chloe, who stayed with them. And Eddie's parents also helped watch them. They love her so much. She's so good with them. If you're looking for a dog walker in Andover, Massachusetts, Chloe, she's amazing.

But don't take her because we need her for all the times that we need to go. But yeah, they were safe. He was amazing. Eddie was great being there. And then Mick Sinistripe before - he didn't bandit the race? He did not bandit that race. So thinking of that, I had asked him when I bought him the cherry for that one. I was like, do you want me to see if you want to run for the cherry too? He's like, no.

I'm studying, I have a lot of work for work. And I was like, okay. And I didn't really push it. I kind of asked him again later and he was like, no, cause the window was cutting closer to make my charity of it. knew they still had a couple of bibs. And I was like, know I can raise enough money in this one event. And I, to like, for the two of us. And he was like, no, I just want to go and I want to support you and enjoy it. We're in the airport.

on the plane to London, he was like, you know what I really wish I was running London review. That was like, you do. Do you want me call Izzy now? See if we can just do an anonymous donation of $4 ,000. And he was like, no, no, I'll just watch. And then where I did on the night before with Mick and Mick asked him the same thing. Like, why didn't you run? Like you could have done the charity. And he was like, no.

again I thought about it later and it was too late it wasn't too late because people were still getting in I got another one or Justin in without word bound so he could run London too like a month before it so was like it was not too late we could have run it but we're gonna go back to London so he can do it whenever he wants to.

Eric (01:51:58.51)
Oh, go ahead. Oh, I was just going to say, I'm so glad you had a better run than that Boston because just being so sick and miserable, I know that just wasn't the day you had hoped for, but you kind of had the redemption you wanted during London. Oh, yeah. And it was kind of opposite. I wanted to run London like four hours because I was like, don't know how I'm going to feel flying in Boston. was like, my goal was 320. I finished London 321. So it was like just opposite of my plan.

and they were both amazing marathons and I had a great time doing it. I would do it all over again, but hope for better Boston. But I'm looking forward to Chicago and hoping that that one goes really well. Training this summer in the heat might help with my digestion and just getting my body acclimated to warmer weather for a warmer race and pray that it's raining in 50 degrees in Chicago that day.

Chicago a few times now and one year was wicked hot but the previous years after that it's been nice and cool like a light sprinkle one year it was perfect running weather so I am I am hoping that I can bestow that kind of weather on you and it's perfect for you. All the summer training will pay off though. Yeah I'm going out with my friend Jody from high school she started running and she's

I feel like every race she's like PR, PR, PR. So she's getting under four hours for a marathon. She's running for a great charity and I don't know which one she's running for, but two of the girls from the mathletes, Jenna and Olivia are also running Chicago and they're going out with their boyfriends. So we're all going to try to meet up. Jodi and I are staying together and flying in together and everything. So we're to do like a mini girls weekend out there.

It'll be interesting for both Jodi and I, because our support systems won't be there. So we have to support each other through the marathon and at the finish line. that's going to be my goal is to get there, support each other, and hoping that we can make it through to the finish and be able to see each other there and then go back to our hotel and party. Awesome. You guys will have a wonderful time. Just the crowd support in Chicago is awesome too.

Eric (01:54:12.386)
I mean, you're hitting them all, like all the good ones. You had Boston, you know the crowds are great in Boston. London, the crowds are amazing. And then Chicago is gonna be more of the same. So they're gonna carry you. You're gonna have a blast. I really hope you enjoy it. Out of all the majors, Chicago is my favorite. So I see, I like seeing what other people think about the majors. So you'll have to let me know. Definitely let you know, yeah. Fanny said New York was like one of her favorites. said, similar to London, like each borough had its own theme and band.

and I'm hoping to run New York next year. Sammy's mom does a charity and we're to get all the mathletes to run New York together. That would be cool. mathlete marathon. We'll have to make custom t I love it. Well, Jenna, Friedus and Kelly, if you're looking to logo anything, they have their own brand, company. So they are definitely interested in making us a marathon mathlete t -shirt to How cool is that? That's pretty cool.

That's pretty cool. I'll sponsor it. If you put stoolie on the back, we're putting stoolie like right behind the neck. We're calling it a sneaky stoolie because you have long hair or hoodie. kind of covers it. But sometimes he'll just pop out of there like, Hey, you could do a Boston did with their sweatshirts from 2023 and you put the unicorn on the sleeve. Yeah. Very cool. We're the sleeves. I'm excited to hear how your training goes this summer. Maybe I'll get out with you. One of those Saturdays.

the hot heat, you'll work on, like you said, the digestive issues. So if you have a Code Brown, you know who to call. But that leads me into my big question. I have the Code Brown commandments, a list I'm building up. said, like one could totally be, always grab the donut. But you listen to the pod, I think you know what I'm talking about. An crap moment. Is there any running advice you could give to our listeners for our Code Brown commandments?

Some examples are like, don't trust a fart or diaper rash cream cures chafing overnight. What's something you learned that you could contribute to the Code Ground Commandments for us? Hemorrhoids, stock for a runner. Definitely start the creamer. That's yeah, always grab the donut. It could be a donut seat. It could be a donut that you eat.

Eric (01:56:38.366)
You two boys will have a fight. I think this works out. You're going to get both because the cream could go of lube. could be like, thou shall always use extra lube slash cream and then thou shall always grab the donut. Yes. It's your choice what donut you grab. Strawberry frosted with the sprinkles.

classic chocolate glazed myself. do like chocolate glazed. I will not say no to any donuts. I do not discriminate. A sneaky one I really like, I don't get enough just because it's messy, is a jelly donut. The Grape Knot one, like with the crunchies on the outside. what are they? Butternut, think it is, right? Valentine's Day, Eddie surprised me with a half a dozen donuts at the bar. came in, so I was working Valentine's Day, so we weren't

celebrate on Valentine's Day and he surprised me with a half a dozen doughnuts and his thing is Legos. So I ordered him a, obviously I take a ton of pictures and so I did a collage of us in Legos and he had to build it and my God. You take a ton of photos but you're not on Instagram. I know. I just kinda wanna have to like be on different social media. My Facebook is for like family.

and like close friends and it kind of helps me stay motivated. I feel like if I was trying to post like I even took like a step back from like Snapchat, I really don't even use that anymore. I use Snapchat a lot when my mom was like in the hospital to like send her funny things when she was going through chemo and like she used it to like get stay in touch with like my cousins with their kids. And I was like, I don't really use Snapchat anymore. I won't get rid of it because I still like connect with people. But Facebook, I convinced my mom to get Facebook. So

easy to stay connected. She could see like my life instead of me texting her a picture here and there. So I like posting it, but I'm like, I don't need another form of social media tying me down. I'll be honest here. I don't even watch TV anymore. During COVID, I was like, I'm on the computer all the time with my job. I don't need to like watch TV. So I try to take like, I went from like,

Eric (01:58:48.302)
October through March and didn't watch TV. That was like, well, I was like, let's just get through October and March. Like there's knuckling on the holidays and stuff going on that I don't need to watch TV. And I was running. And then it's just kind of a thing. Like I just, if I want to watch a movie or something, I'll watch it. I only have Amazon Prime now because was sneaking onto my parents' Netflix and they got rid of Netflix and then I didn't have it anymore. So I was like, well, I can't watch any of those shows. So I tried to do like audible, tried to learn the ukulele.

That's a fun ask me to play. It is. I'm not good. No worries. worries. And then I was like, you know what? need to try. I need to try to learn something new. COVID, I learned how to braid my hair. Never learned, knew how to braid my hair. I used to pay a girl on my field hockey team in high school 50 cents to braid my hair for games. I can now braid my hair. I just donated, chopped off two feet of hair, but getting back to it. But I was like, this year, I'm going to learn to crochet.

Crocheting, that was my project last year. I did the tie fleece blanket and I was like, was so pretty. Gave every single family member a fleece blanket for Christmas, made candles, that was super easy. Crocheting is the hardest thing I've ever done in my life. So I can't say I really crochet. I just like making those little like animals, amigurumi or something or whatever they're called. Like I started with the Wubbles kit and they're the fun, like I think we're gonna get show and tell.

I tried to sew up like some yarn in my hair, poop brown. There we go. See, you making us a stoolie hat? A stoolie sweater? just seeing if I can do it. But I have this dinosaur to make and I'm going to make it for my sister for the birthday and all this nice. I'm not going to do this. You'll be surprised once you get the hang of it. my God. I was

I'm practicing at work and my co -worker's like, I don't know it's the color. So I'm texting like, it's leaking. You're just really bad. Practice makes perfect. Just keep, keep doing them. And what's cool with crocheting is a lot of times you can like make something and if you don't like it, just unravel the entire thing. you're fine. I love I'll let you know how crocheting goes, but here's your little stool.

Eric (02:01:12.982)
Actually, that's pretty perfect. Like it is like poop shaped. It's so bad. But I'm going to make a dinosaur for my sister for her birthday and we'll see how it goes. Excellent. It might just be like, here's some yarn, you do it. I bought you a kit. Have fun. That might be what it is. I like trying to be like, no, you get the kit. That's on you.

All right, Jen, I gotta cut in and ask you my final question. So we have that excellent Spotify playlist and we like to invite our guests to add a song to it. So is there a song It's excellent because of my songs, by the way. Oh, everybody's song has a place on there. So don't discredit everybody. you and me, it's excellent because of my songs, my 12. Sure, whatever you want. But is there any song that you're feeling at the moment that just gets you pumped up and ready to run? Oh yeah.

When I worked for a recruiting agency on Fridays, we had to like say our sales numbers and they picked like a song for you and somebody picks like your song at first for you. And the song they picked was Run Like A Rebel by The Score. And so every time I would write my numbers on the board, that song would be playing and you'd have to hit a bell and everything if you hit over a amount. But Run Like A Rebel was like my sales song, which became

my song that would like if I wasn't feeling like running I would play that song when I was getting ready to run and then if it comes on like on my pandora whatever I was like this is such a great run now it's like amazing so the score run like a rebel I do like all the score songs I they're just very like you need to like motivate and get running and then Zaid Wolf I think that's the name of the artist he has a lot of good songs and he plays throughout like my score like

Pandora list, but one like a rubble is probably the one like if I hear it, I'm gonna run that day or run faster through that song and making them run like 100 % better even if it was like already at 100 out, like 110. Perfect, I love having songs like that that just are like, all right, I am like 10 % more motivated to go do this. Like let's go. Oh yeah, it'll be like the song that I always post like, especially if I didn't wanna go out for a run, if I put a song like to my story on Facebook.

Eric (02:03:36.334)
It'll be run like a rebel. Awesome. That is your song. Well, let me tell you, we are at one hour, 56 minutes, and I want to hit two hours. What the heck? Why not? I have two more questions. Like I told you, I did my digging. I asked some friends of ours, give me the dirt. And like I said, none of them had any dirt. They're like, she's so amazing. She's awesome. There's no dirt. Like, just give me some insider tips. And so I got two things from two different people.

One is running, one is not. So first, you are certified in Reiki? Yes, yes I am. I got certified in Reiki through a friend at Planet Fitness and she was starting her own company and I love doing yoga and I don't practice yoga in a studio anymore. It's not very expensive. So I just practice at home, try to do my 15 to 30 minutes in the morning and evening.

And she was telling me all about Reiki. My aunt Denise is actually certified in Reiki and also teaches yoga. And I was like, I would love to learn more. So I went to her like course every weekend for several months and I got Reiki one, Reiki two and my Reiki master certification. And at Planet Fitness, I would actually like practice on my staff. Like they were very into it, very like holistic and wanted the energy. I had a lot of staff like going through a lot of

family trauma or just like, just mental health and like trying to get into like a better life. And my goal as a manager wasn't to like manage them, but I really wanted to coach them and like help them along the way. And this we would like meditate. talked about just like what's going on and we'd practice Reiki. They let me like help, like help them and which helps me like be a better practitioner. And it was amazing. And then I never like charged anyone for it, like never wanted to make it like a business. just like, if people want to do

I'll do it with them. If you don't believe in it, that's 100 % you. I'm not gonna push it on anyone, but I love it. When I practice my yoga, try to do like, was within the chakras, trying to hit like every chakra, chakras through the seven, doing Reiki as I do my yoga in the morning and evening and just helped me get grounded for the day and then helps me like, then out for the evening before bed too. So if you know what it is, it's just like energy.

Eric (02:06:01.678)
And it's nice and relaxes you. think that's awesome. Yeah. That's really cool. Shout out to me for pronouncing it right, by the way. Pat myself on the back. Good job. I knew what you were talking about. Last one. I know you are doing Reach the Beach this year and you are on quite... Look at that. I couldn't even pronounce Reach the Beach correctly. I got reiki right. Couldn't do Reach the Beach.

Baby steps, baby steps. thought Lindsay and Tara Pterodactyl were not going to get me now they can get me on that. You are going to be on a pretty elite Reach the Beach team this year. You talked about your training for Chicago and other things coming up, but you did not mention your elite team for Reach the Beach. yeah. So I'm doing an all female ultra Reach the Beach. So I've done an ultra Reach the Beach before and it was a fun Reach the Beach, I'll tell you that, Eddie.

This is an all female, it's Nicole, Justine, Sammy and myself. And I don't know who Justine Nicole have recruited onto our team, but I'm really looking forward to it. If they still need some runners, I have some people in mind that I've been trying to convince as well from the math leads and other crew of runners that I know. But I'm ready to run. When I did the ultra last time, I did about 52, 56 miles that year. We had an injured runner along the course, so I had to pick

Time wise and miles wise and wow the night I was doing back -to -back 14 and 15 miles that year and I'm hoping that this year's a little bit more fun. I'm not doing to half marathons basically back -to -back and the miles will be split up a little bit better and I know the girls that we're running with or just they're running their training and we're gonna have a great time and

I'm just hoping the weather is better than last year. Last year, we couldn't even finish at the beach, it was at this high school. That's right. So it was reached the high school. And also I couldn't even finish with my team, which was okay, because I got to celebrate the beautiful marriage of my friend, Kylie and Andy, to end that weekend. So Eddie and I were on different team, per usual, and we had to meet up at the end of our last legs to then take a van to drop us

Eric (02:08:24.174)
at our cars, which we had pre -parked at my coworker Campo's house at Hampton beach, and then drive to Massachusetts to a brewery to watch my friend, Andy and Kylie get married. And we were like on zero sleep within 36 hours and we luckily showered totally. That's really nice. But this year, no plans that weekend besides to reach the beach. So it's going to be great. Eddie's on a team through the borderline running club in Andover.

and they are the party team. If you see them, they usually have Bud Light and Fireball and are ready to party with you along the court. My kind of people. What's your team name? I know she has a name and she's told me and I apologize to Steen and Nicole. I do not remember. Well, you guys can keep me posted, but if you see the ultra penguins out there, come say hi. All right. You can't miss us. There's penguins everywhere. I love it.

I want to do like a costume or at least a t -shirt for our team. Last year I tried to run in like a different outfit for the race. was, I was Forrest Gump on one of my legs and another man that was Forrest Gump jumped out of a moving van to come take a selfie with me and jump back in his van. He's like, what? I love it. And then the

That's the spirit of reach the beach. Oh, yeah. In a sentence. was snowflake. I was in like a lit tutu with lights and everything. And that was really fun. And then I wore my Boston Marathon outfit for a leg because my friend Taylor and her youngest kids missed me in Boston in 2023 and 2024 hadn't happened yet. And we run through Chester, which is their hometown.

And I had to switch legs because I had mapped it out, but reached the beach, kept switching the legs last year round. So I had to switch a leg, which I thought I was only going to run three miles. And I ended up having to run eight miles so I could pass them to give them high fouls and see their beautiful Boston Marriott by the time. And of course that was the only leg of the race that it was down.

Eric (02:10:39.438)
no. And so I smidged my mic by Nailene so she had to run eight and I ran eight and she ran three and she's like, thank you for running in the rain. was like, you're so welcome. It was worth it to see those little smiles. There you go. them hugs and yes, it was great. So I would do it again and again for them.

Hopefully this year will be a lot less miles, but still as fun because you got an awesome team and then hopefully it does actually finish at the beach this know. Finishing at the beach is the best. Besides last year, I finished the sand run and that's like one of my favorite runs. I life girded at Hampton Beach through college, so I'm used to running on the sand from back

And it's just fun to come in to the music and everybody's so happy to be there. And yeah, it's always a great time. All the memories. Well, this was a great time. It was a long time, but it was perfect. my God. This was so much fun. Anything you want to send us off with before, where can people find you? You said Facebook's your family. So we're just going to keep it that way, family and me, because I know we're Facebook buddies now.

It's Jennifer Jane on Facebook. I'll look over your Facebook to make sure I want to be friends with you. You gotta be vetted, If you have like friends in common, but I do welcome just about anybody into my Facebook world. have, like I said, smile, support, motivate, inspire, love yourself and empower. And if you want to watch me run and watch my dogs, that's basically all I post about. So I apologize for Oakley Cline. He's crying himself to sleep now.

I love Oakley. want to meet Oakley. Oh, I love dogs. I miss my girl. So Hi Oakley. You woke me up mom. that clip. Yeah. This was wonderful. Thank you was amazing. Like it was so cool to meet you. And that was the first time I met Sammy too in February. And then we saw each other again at the 20 miler. And I remember you and I were talking for most of that three, four or five mile run we did for Justine.

Eric (02:12:46.91)
And you're like, I'm doing this and I'm doing that. I'm like, you gotta find time to jump on the pod and we got you. We finally got you. There's so much fun. I can't wait. I'll one day I'll run with you in the math leads. It'll a lot of fun. or after Chicago. And then we can talk about Chicago. We could do that. do a of running Chicago. So it could be like all of us together. We should bring back. I know we've talked about it and I know it's hard, but we used to do something last year called OTR Live.

Now I know you said you were nervous before. think you're pretty comfortable. But we would live stream on YouTube and talk to friends of the pod. So they had to have been a guest before and tell us about a race they just ran and it's just strictly about that race. All maybe we do it for Chicago. Maybe we bring you back. No need to be nervous. There's only like six people who watch it. Six, that's being nice. Well, that was before. That was before when we would Hey, I'm gonna put it all over my Facebook now.

Just wait, you're gonna blow up Now you're gonna get the 2. whatever thousand and really be eating your words. Well, it makes me less nervous. have a big presentation at work next week, so nice already. Good, You are ready. Get the nervous energy out now where you'll be fine. Yes, and if you ever want a reiki session, reiki yoga or running session, let me know. Down for anything.

Only those three things. You said anything. I don't know it's hard to turn into something weird. long as it's donuts and tacos. Yeah. And coffee. Yes. Coffee, donuts, tacos. Those are my three favorite things. Well, this was a lot of fun. Thank you so much for coming on, everyone. I hope you enjoyed this wonderful two hours and seven minutes of Jennifer Ouellette. That was awesome.

Eric (02:14:43.138)
Thank you so much, Jennifer, for talking on the pod about Eddie and all your dogs and all your running experiences. Yay. Awesome job, Adeline. Jennifer was awesome. That was so much fun. Jennifer, thank you so much. And thanks for your patience. I know I was like, we'll get you on. And it took a few months. It takes everyone. I've just scheduled somebody, Adeline, in September. Crazy.

All right, Adeline, I wanna show you something because a box just came in the mail. Actually, Bill dropped it off. didn't even come in the mail. Bill dropped it off. But, a while ago, like I'm talking a while ago, I reached out to our Patreons. If you guys wanna join us on Patreon and be a friend of the pod or supporter of the pod, go on Patreon and you can pay four or nine dollars or apparently you can make a custom. We just have a new Patreon and you can do a custom. You can pick your own price per month. I didn't know that. That's awesome. All right,

I ordered some hoodies and all our patrons had the chance to get one. A few of them jumped up at the opportunity. Adeline, look at this thing. Look at this beautiful hoodie. Here, hold the microphone. Okay. Tell everyone what color it is. I mean, it's like a grayish blue. That's right. It says, and it says on the runs above the heart. When you flip the hoodie, you see something

that we call a pretty sneaky stoolie. Check it out, sneaky stoolie. So when the hood is back, stoolie is covered. But when you throw the hood up, stoolie is there and we're calling it sneaky stoolie. Stoolie is awesome. It's so cool. Yeah, it came out amazing. the people who are patrons who wanted the hoodie, they came in. Finally, I know like it's been wicked hot out. So it'll be great for fall, guys. Sorry it wasn't here in time for

those nice spring days, but we'll be here for those cool fall days. And I got more t -shirts too that came in. I'm excited. Tell everyone the news. You can legit tell them the news of what is coming up for you. You're going to go somewhere really cool and get to be part of something really awesome. You can give them all the details. There is no hiding. There was no contracts we had to sign. Tell everyone where you're going, what you're going to do.

Eric (02:17:06.038)
and that they can even come and watch you if they want to buy a ticket. Okay. Well, yesterday... It was yesterday. Yeah, yesterday I was in the line for Starbucks and... What were you getting at Starbucks? my God. Okay, no, skip Starbucks. Just tell us what you found out. Well, when I was in the line for Starbucks, my mom was looking on her phone and she got an email from... I don't know the name,

email from someone probably in New York because it's based on New York and well we kind of auditioned to go to New York Fashion Week in New York. I already said New York a thousand times but yeah she got an email for me to be in New York Fashion Week and my god this is amazing

and it's gonna be in one and a half months that I'm gonna be going to Fashion Week in New York. I cannot wait. I'm gonna be there for two days. She's gonna walk down the fancy catwalk aisle with outfits on and showing them off and Scott, I hope she'll still have her hockey teeth because it will be so adorbs. I mean, yeah, it's pretty exciting

I'm in New York Fashion Week. mean, this is maybe even bigger. Well, maybe the same exact amount of big as the TV show that I'm in. So it's really big for me. I've been wanting to be on the runway ever since I was really little. So I think this is really big for me. To give you an idea of how big the TV show she got to be part of, if she's saying this is just as big as the TV show, that's one pretty big TV show, I think, right? Yeah.

Yeah. All right. Well, that was fun. Adeline, thank you so much for being a co -host with me today. Guys, next week, Erica and I should be back. No, wait. Yes, we should be back for the normal trolls. In her contract, she has to do more trolls all the way until the December holiday break. So we'll be back next week. We've got a lot to catch up on. A lot has happened during our like four weeks off. I hope you guys have enjoyed the best

Eric (02:19:30.302)
and the OTR classics. hope last week you enjoyed the pretty much the ultra badass lady episode of Erica and Michaela doing their look at Adeline's eyes there. I'll post that clip of doing their ultra marathons. It was great. We we still been working. We've had some amazing guest appearances the last couple of weeks. So we'll be back next week on Tuesday with a normal pod. Erica, I'm not going to you know, just clip in what you normally

Adeline's gonna say it. Guys, you're awesome. Thank you so much for being huge supporters of the pod. We got some exciting things to come. So as you always know, don't fear the code brown. And Adeline, take us home, girl. We love you and don't forget to stretch. Which I'm gonna do right now.

Eric (02:21:07.96)
Alright, here we go. You ready? wait, go in that room and my hat that's on the floor. Orange

Thank you. And I look cool. I look cool. Do I look cool? Sure. Sure. Okay, you gotta get closer and you gotta talk more in the mic when I talk to you, so here we go. Hey, do think I look cool? Kind of. Kind of? I'm a cool looking dad. Cool dad.