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Finding Balance Amidst Chaos: Intuitive Leadership Coach Kim Dechaine on Overcoming Burnout and Stress Management

December 13, 2023 Mindy Duff Season 6 Episode 64
Finding Balance Amidst Chaos: Intuitive Leadership Coach Kim Dechaine on Overcoming Burnout and Stress Management
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Finding Balance Amidst Chaos: Intuitive Leadership Coach Kim Dechaine on Overcoming Burnout and Stress Management
Dec 13, 2023 Season 6 Episode 64
Mindy Duff

Ever felt like you're juggling too much and on the verge of burning out? It's a feeling all too familiar for many of us, and on today's episode, we have the distinct pleasure of conversing with intuitive leadership coach, Kim Dechaine, who shares her personal journey of overcoming burnout and depression. Through her compelling story, you'll realize that you're not alone in this struggle and that there's a way to find balance amidst the chaos.

The episode takes an enlightening turn as we discuss practical strategies to help manage stress and prevent overwhelm. Imagine using a simple "pause" sticky note to remind yourself to breathe, refocus and listen to your intuition. It’s a game-changer! We also delve into the power of balancing masculine and feminine energies and veering away from the constant "get it done" mentality. Hear our personal experiences and discover how incorporating creative and intuitive practices into your daily routines can create a better balance. 

As we venture into the realm of productivity and goal-setting for entrepreneurs, we underscore the power of intentional awareness and the importance of aligning our actions with our goals. The conversation takes a candid turn about the often overlooked step of asking for help - stressing that it's perfectly okay to seek support. We wrap up by acknowledging the value of your feedback in shaping our content and encourage you to leave reviews. Tune in and gather invaluable insights to help you navigate life and level up!

To learn more about Kim, visit:
https://innerpoweredleaders.com/

To learn more about Mindy CLICK HERE

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Ever felt like you're juggling too much and on the verge of burning out? It's a feeling all too familiar for many of us, and on today's episode, we have the distinct pleasure of conversing with intuitive leadership coach, Kim Dechaine, who shares her personal journey of overcoming burnout and depression. Through her compelling story, you'll realize that you're not alone in this struggle and that there's a way to find balance amidst the chaos.

The episode takes an enlightening turn as we discuss practical strategies to help manage stress and prevent overwhelm. Imagine using a simple "pause" sticky note to remind yourself to breathe, refocus and listen to your intuition. It’s a game-changer! We also delve into the power of balancing masculine and feminine energies and veering away from the constant "get it done" mentality. Hear our personal experiences and discover how incorporating creative and intuitive practices into your daily routines can create a better balance. 

As we venture into the realm of productivity and goal-setting for entrepreneurs, we underscore the power of intentional awareness and the importance of aligning our actions with our goals. The conversation takes a candid turn about the often overlooked step of asking for help - stressing that it's perfectly okay to seek support. We wrap up by acknowledging the value of your feedback in shaping our content and encourage you to leave reviews. Tune in and gather invaluable insights to help you navigate life and level up!

To learn more about Kim, visit:
https://innerpoweredleaders.com/

To learn more about Mindy CLICK HERE

Speaker 1:

Hey friends, this is your host, mindy Duff, and you're listening to Uplevel your Life with Mindy, your number one personal growth podcast that will bring you closer to uncovering your greatest self. As a certified holistic health and nutrition coach, I created this podcast for anyone who desires to improve physically, emotionally and spiritually. I'll be interviewing experts and sharing tips and tricks that have helped not only my clients, but that have guided me on my own transformational journey. I believe that we all have a greatness that lies within. We just need to uncover it. Are you ready to level up? Let's begin.

Speaker 1:

Hi everyone and welcome back to Uplevel your Life with Mindy. I am your host, mindy Duff, and I'm excited for today's topic because, well, first of all, I have a guest, and when I have a guest, I never know exactly what direction we're going to go, so that's kind of fun and exciting. But I have Kim Deshane with me here, and Kim is an intuitive leadership coach and we're going to be talking about all kinds of different things, but what I'm really going to be honing in on is stress, anxiety, burnout and the solution to all of these things, because I know Kim sees this a lot in her work. So, kim, thank you so much for being here today.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, thank you so much, Mindy.

Speaker 1:

I'm excited to be here and tell us a little bit more about yourself and what you do. What is an intuitive leadership coach?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, for sure. Well, I'm coming to you from Alberta, canada, and I'm living in a very small rural town and have my own business, inner Powered Leaders, and I'm a mom of two beautiful teenage girls and mother and, yeah, I have my own business, inner Powered Leaders, and what I really do with that is I shine light on women's inner power so that they can stay in their leadership roles or within their business without overwhelm and burnout.

Speaker 1:

That is the key without overwhelm and burnout yeah. As a mom with a business and other side projects that I do I understand this topic heavily from the burnout perspective and not from the like how to not do it.

Speaker 1:

So I think that's such an important topic that you're working with women on. I think part of this and people that are listening you can agree or disagree with this, but I think it goes back to like the 70s. I wasn't alive in the 70s, but this is my take on it. I think that women, for a long time, were not allowed to do certain things. It was irrespective to be home and be a homemaker, and that, for a long time, was that was it.

Speaker 1:

And I feel like somewhere in the 60s and then the 70s, women were like no, we are actually, we're smarter than men at some of this stuff, so why don't you? Let us take a turn and continue to just hey, look at us, we can do it all, except nobody can do it all. Nobody can be that perfect homemaker and have that perfect, you know, career outside of the home or whatever it is. And I think that now I feel like the tides are turning again and we're kind of realizing that, hey, this isn't a sustainable way to go and we're so grateful that we can have the freedom to choose and be, have our own businesses and be in the workplace. But how do we balance it? How do we find that happy medium where we can do all of these things? So I think that this is really really relevant work that you're doing right now, and it's super, super timely and important. That led you to becoming an intuitive leadership coach.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we all have our story right, and I have mine too. For me, I would say that you know, I fought with depression. I well, first of all, I burnt out from being a school teacher and so I taught in the classroom for 13 years and, yes, completely burnt out, quit my job without having another job. And I went to my doctor and I said I don't understand what's happening. And he was like, yes, well, you are completely burnt out and depressed. And I was like, oh, that's what this is no sleeping, crying, you know, for folding laundry, just like out of all of a sudden. So I ended up having getting married and having two daughters and I kept going back to work, because that's what you do, right, you, I went to school for this, so you pushed through it, even though every time I drove up to work I would get this knot in my stomach. And you know, afterwards I knew it was a sign. It was telling me this is not where you are supposed to be right now, kim.

Speaker 2:

After my second daughter was born, I fell into postpartum depression and I fought it for about nine years and I was in what I called my deep, dark pit. I had suicidal thoughts and it was a huge struggle. I couldn't I would get out of bed just to feed my three year old and one year old and maybe get out of bed then when my husband got home from work maybe not. Luckily for me, though, I had an amazing support system and I was able to climb out and heal, and within that, my biggest aha moment for me was actually 2015, and I was helping my oldest daughter with anxiety, and we were sitting on her bed and I was holding her and this voice just came to me and it said this is why you had to go through what you did, so you can help her and others heal, and so my whole life just shifted right. Then it was like, okay, there's no questioning this, this is so I energy healing for me throughout healing really helped me.

Speaker 2:

So I became an energy healer. I became an integrative mental health coach. I opened up my own business, my own clinic, where I saw people one on one, and the more people I really started to see and talk to and try to help heal was. My a-ha moment was that and this is a Kim stat that I believe 80% of depression, anxiety, overwhelm, burnout can be prevented, and so my thought is why don't we just prevent this, instead of everyone else trying to? We're always fighting it right, or we don't look for help until we've already started the spiral downward, or we've hit our deep dark pit.

Speaker 2:

And that's where I really became passionate with speaking and teaching. I am a teacher at heart, right, and so I started I speak on stages and workshops, and then COVID hit and started just really going online, and so my passion is to help women to stay in those leadership roles, because I truly believe it is going to be the woman that saves the world. But we can't do it right now because we're in chaos. And so how can I help women really connect with their unique inner power and not feel that we have to connect to the men's world or the masculine world to be able to find success? And when we can do that, then we can really connect and find our path without that overwhelm and burnout. And so that is what has led me right here.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I love that. That's a great story Boy. I am terrible at remembering quotes, but for people that want to look up quotes, there's a Ram Das quote that is almost exactly what you said. It's to the effect of healing myself so that I can heal others, kind of a thing, and I think that's so many people in the healing or in this profession. Even though if you're not necessarily healing one-on-one with energy so much anymore, when you're speaking, when you're doing these podcasts, you're still helping to heal people. So I think that's so key. So I'm glad that you were able to take that experience and now can help others with it. That's just a beautiful, beautiful thing. So I'm curious about the work that you're doing now and I could make some guesses because, again, I've lived a lot of this myself. But what are some of the most common issues that you see people struggling with?

Speaker 2:

Well, guilt, you know. I'll say we have mom guilt, but you don't have to be a mom. It's a female innate thing that we feel we need to have. Overthinking, overanalyzing and trying to control everything.

Speaker 1:

Check, check, check and check.

Speaker 1:

Continue. There you go. Yeah, I identify with those so heavily and I teach some of this stuff too and I quote, unquote, no better. But even like this morning, I have a lot. I had a lot to do. Today I have a lot of just like home stuff, like I gotta call this place, and the life maintenance things, and then I have a lot of things within my business that I needed to, like I'm excited to work on, but just like a lot, that, boy, I could do this and this and this and this.

Speaker 1:

And I woke up this morning, didn't get a ton of sleep last night, I mean, I got an okay amount, but not a ton, and I didn't feel very well. And, to be honest, I haven't felt very well for the last several days. My daughter's been sick. I've been the kind of sick where, like, you're up and you're functioning and you can do all the things, but you're just energy isn't quite there.

Speaker 1:

And this morning I was just beating myself up because I laid down on the couch to do a morning meditation that is I usually do and I fell asleep and I slept for a little while and then it was like gosh, you can't lay here and sleep, like you have all these things to do. And then I was like, no, come on, like I know this stuff. But if it were one of my friends that were calling me on the phone saying, oh my gosh, I've been under the weather a little bit, I don't feel good and I took a nap, and I can't believe I did that because I would be like are you crazy? Obviously you needed a nap, like, but when it's your own self, it's different for some weird reason, I don't know why, but yeah, it's so easy to beat ourselves up on all of that. So I'm sure that you I mean you can relate and you probably see some of the same stuff with your clients as well.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely yeah, and within myself and I think this is it also is that for my own healing journey, from where I have been to now, I still need constant reminders, and so I teach what I need to know, right, we all do, and I think we need to remember that, that we are human and so we have been taught we, generationally, we have been taught some of these things that laying down for a nap is actually being lazy, these are the thought, right, being lazy or weak or whatever that might.

Speaker 2:

We've been taught from years and years and years. But for me, then, it's breaking those belief systems and we need constant reminders of that and reprogramming of our brain. And so, yeah, everyone has this. But for us to have that self-awareness and then be able to shift ourselves out of it, and so that really is something that, when I start working with women, is learning self-awareness of what are our thoughts, right, and then, once we can be aware of it, then we can start shifting it. So, just like you did, you had the self-awareness of what you were saying and you stopped yourself. Huge win, right, huge win. So, and it's learning to be kind to ourselves also for having those thoughts at first and then catching it and being like no, I needed this and this is what I would say to a friend, and I am just as worthy as my friend is needing this right now and so I think that that's really important Just having that awareness, catching it and then just being kind to ourselves and letting it go.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, I think awareness is so often the first step when we're trying to make any kind of these mindset shifts, changing belief systems and whatnot. It's just it feels like you wanna just fix it, you wanna just like dig in your brain and just like just take it out. This is not serving me, I don't want it anymore. But you have to be able to see it first, so that awareness it feels like slow, but you have to be able to see it, to catch it in order to make the change. So I think you're right there with the awareness part of it. So how do we fix it, Kim? They help me. What are your favorite strategies to help relieve the stress and the anxiety and the overwhelm and the burnout?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, step one is pause. We have to learn the pause. I always call it the pause like it's a big deal, it's all capital letters. As women, we again, we've been trained that go, go, go and the more we do is connected to our self-worth, and we know we may not think that consciously it's been unconsciously taught to us, right. And so the first step is how, learning how to just stop, take a breath, learning that it's okay that we have this mind that is going, but we have to train it. So if we and I guess even before then the pause is just making the choice do I want to make change? Do I want to make change? Because if I really don't, or I don't know how, I'm like no, I'm not going to, then it's not, you're not gonna be able to make that effort. But the pause is number one for me always, and the pause might be just, you know, um, taking three breaths. And you know I'll have clients that'll be like, well, I can't find a minute a day To stop and breathe. And then I'm always asking them all do you ever go on social media? And I don't have anyone that says, no, I never go on social media. And I'm like, well, then you have time. Right, it's so. It's really prioritizing that.

Speaker 2:

So, if I gave you example of one of the women I was talking to, one of our big things is, um Is I asked people to get a sticky and put the word pause on it. And you can, you know, you can add, you can color it whatever you want. And so this was in the workplace, and so she decided she put a sticky on the outside of her door and inside of her door, and then she was like, oh, maybe I won't put it on the outside because I don't want people to ask me what this is right. And I said, well, this is a great role modeling opportunity for you as a leader within your company. And so she did. She stuck with it.

Speaker 2:

So every time she would walk in her door and see the pause, she would take three breaths and Then same when she would leave her office and she had someone ask her what, what is this for? And she goes well, actually, it's just to remind me to take a breath. It helps me to refocus and just center myself for the next thing I'm going to do. Wow, right, isn't that? And as soon as we have that pause. We have the ability then to choose what our next step is going to be, instead of the autopilot or the reaction Right, which is often what happens, and when we go into autopilot and reaction and we, that's when we will start going into the burnout, because we start going into the spiral.

Speaker 2:

So, yeah, so I kind of went off on the pause there, but the pause is definitely number one. Number two is we have to accept when we are and who we are, and Within acceptance then is just like what do I have control over in this situation? And and then we have to release that control and just accept that it is what it is. And how am I going to step forward? And then I would say the third thing for a step to really you know, really work on overwhelm and all of the depression and anxiety is listening to our intuition, listening to our heart.

Speaker 2:

And you know I really talk a lot about the masculine and the feminine and that we need it balanced. We don't we're not saying to get rid of masculine energy, because we need both. We need the stuff, the energy that gets where we get stuff done, which is the masculine, and then more of the pause and the flow with the feminine, the creative, and so we need the balance of both. But women are not. We've been trained not to go there and we forget that our innate gift is listening to our intuition, and so I really help women to be able to do the pause and listen. What is your heart telling you?

Speaker 2:

And it's hard sometimes, especially for women that are in, you know, leadership roles Surrounded by a lot of masculine energy, because sometimes things feel illogical Because we're going from our heart, right. But I went to a I don't know some kind of reader of Intuitive leader or reader, or she gave me a reading and she said that you know, our heart Makes the decisions for us and tells us the path we need to take, and our brain is there to figure out how to do it, and so I loved that. That really shifted my perspective within that. But our intuition has all of the answers and if we can lead through that and through our heart, we are aligned and we will not go into overwhelm. So when we're stuck in the masculine and we're trying to be there all of the time, because that's not where we're supposed to be all the time, that's when we burn out, that's when we get sick when we feel pain. So when we can bring in more of that feminine, then we find more of that balance within that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's such such a great example and, as you're talking just there, I was thinking, gosh, you know, just very recently I have felt I was talking to some friends about this too who were feeling the same thing. I feel just the last couple of days, just like, kind of and again I've been sick too, but like tired, like soul tired, you know with. And then I think about you know, what have I been working on lately? And I have the projects that I'm working on with my business just happened to be very masculine oriented projects. They just are and again, like you say, we need them and that's fine that I'm working on them. That's what needs to get done right now. That's not like all the time and I like that in my business, but these activities are get or done activities and have I been doing things to counteract that? Have I been doing things to balance that out? Which that's a really, really great reminder for me, because I haven't, and I think that's what's making me like tight, like let that, that tired feeling, and that's again that's just been very recently but, boy, again that awareness like to catch that now, like okay, what can I do to bring in some more feminine stuff?

Speaker 1:

I always think of my when people talk about this. I think of my daughter, who this would have been a couple of years ago, I want to say. Maybe she would have been like eight or nine, and she has always been extremely creative, like drawing pictures on everything. Everywhere you know we go on vacation, she's out of the car for five minutes. She's created a pine cone family. Look, here's his hat. You know, like that's just her. She's just a really, really creative child and as she got a little bit older and into school, she started making more lists and things. She came to me one day and she's like mom, look at my list I made for what I need to get done in my bedroom or whatever it was, and I was like that's really great. That's going to help you keep on track and make sure that you get that done. Now go color me a picture Like let's go do something. That's a little bit. You know more free thinking here. It's great that you have that and now balance it out, but as an adult again, I need to do the same types of things as well.

Speaker 1:

I wanted to go back to that pause because I think that's so important. I think like the core of what you're talking about here with intuition like that's. I mean, I used to talk about intuition all the time. It's so huge, it's like the hugest of the huge of all. The life advice like listen to Cam, listen to your intuition. Okay, this is, if you get nothing else from anyone ever, listen to your intuition.

Speaker 1:

But I think it's really hard to, especially if you're a person that's not used to. Maybe you don't meditate, maybe you don't have that even five minutes to meditate, right, so you just aren't used to it. Because you're go, go, go and you're busy, busy, busy and you have the anxiety and the burnout and the overwhelm and everything and all the things all the time. But that pause, even if it's just three breaths, that's going to start to train you to stop, and you're not. You don't have to listen to your intuition when you do that, just stop. All you have to do is just stop, breathe and carry on.

Speaker 1:

But the more that you do that, the I mean I see what you're doing here. I'm on to your tricks, cam the more you do that like you're just conditioning your brain to pause, more you're going to fall into it more quickly, just like if you've ever tried meditating. The first time you meditate is probably a hot mess, like your brain is just crazy. Or if you haven't meditated in a while and then you go back to it. But then if you've been consistent with it, it doesn't even matter if you meditate for two minutes a day, but you're really consistent with it. It's going to take you a shorter and shorter amount of time to fall into kind of that deeper, relaxed mental state because you've been conditioning yourself, your brain's used to it. So by doing that pause you're getting yourself ready to listen and be able to hear your intuition, because it's quiet.

Speaker 2:

It is very quiet, yeah, and you just make me think of one of my clients, allison. She she meant this in the kindest way, but she was like Kim, you should make a book meditating for dummies, because you can break it down and that's. I feel like that's my grade one teacher in me, right, just break it down into small steps. So let's just stop with the pause. And I mean the women will say, oh, my gosh, like and you know the woman I was talking about with the stickies on the door, you know she said, said, after doing that for one week she goes. I was already coming out of my office, not guns, a blazing, yeah, right, and she goes at an even keel by just breathing three times when you came in and out. So it's really about starting small. You can make change with really simple things.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's. That is a really, really great key. You can make change with really simple things. And speaking of change, so let's say that everyone listening follows your advice and they put the pause, sticky notes on their doors and two weeks time they're thinking wow, I am tapping into my intuition and I am calm and organized in my brain and this is life, is great, but I have these goals that I'm working towards and those didn't just magically poof when I started listening to my intuition. So what are some practical steps that somebody could take to get closer to their goals, because I know you work with this quite a bit as well.

Speaker 2:

Yeah for sure. Well, I really I'm going to start again with the pause, right, and so this pause might be a little bit different, in that just sitting, sitting as you set your goals, and feeling those in your body, where you know is, does this goal excite me, does this goal make me, you know, a little bit lighter? Because if those goals just make you feel heavy and give you a knot in your stomach, they're one. Those aren't the right goals then. So I feel like it's really important that we're setting goals that we want to go towards and so, really, you know, okay, is this goal for me?

Speaker 2:

First of all, really feeling into that, and you know what, if you're a list maker, you know whatever that might be, that's fine to do those things right, but within that, I think it's just really important that we always come back to you know, we can say a bigger pause, but a check in every week with where am I at and is this still the path I want to be taking to reach that goal?

Speaker 2:

Because I think that we, we go, go, go, go, go, and then we lose sight of everything that we're doing right, and so we need to do check ins and, I think, once a week, a check in with ourselves, just like, okay, looking at what I did this week, celebrating my wins of what I did do, and that is big or small, that is and that can be part of. You know, you today did those phone calls. It might not have been necessarily towards the goal, but those were wins for me. So now I've opened up the time that I can now do this and this and this right. So celebrating those wins and then really feeling into am I still making, working on the activities that are making me move forward, and then pausing and feeling into that. And I think every time, if you do a check-in every week within that, then that keeps you on path towards the goal that you need to be going towards.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's really good. Ooh, this is like life coaching session for Mindy today. Yeah, I'm really good, and I know I have a lot of people that listen that are not entrepreneurs, but maybe you can relate to this too. But as an entrepreneur, I'm really great at doing being busy. But, like what, what did I actually? What am I working on here? Is that anything that I'm supposed to be? Or did I go down a rabbit hole and spend like two hours on Canva when I could have just been five minutes.

Speaker 1:

You know it's very easy to do, but I think I like that idea of just that weekly check-in or even like a quick check-in at the end of the day, not to make yourself feel bad, like, oh, you didn't get this stuff done, but like, all right, what, what did? How did I spend my time? Is that how I wanted to spend my time? What do I need to change for tomorrow? Just having that intentional awareness again, with the awareness.

Speaker 2:

Definitely would be super, super important.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to add that into my to-do list, my weekly check-in, along with the pause and all the other things.

Speaker 1:

So I do have a question about people that are working towards their goals and maybe they've been doing some of these things, because not that I'm speaking from experience, kim, but I mean, I know a lot of this stuff, I've done a lot of this stuff and strategies, similar, and whatnot. But what about when you still feel like there's something that's just blocking you? What do you? What do you do then when you don't know what it is, but you're like, oh, I just can't seem to make it to that next level or do the thing, and you just feel like not necessarily stuck, but like something is just blocking you. What do you? How do you fix that?

Speaker 2:

You ask for help. We can't do this stuff alone, and all of us are going to ask for help at different levels, right? And there's no comparison, there's no judgment of when that is, and so that might be help within asking someone to take your kids so that you can focus straight for two hours, okay, so that might help be enough to just get you out of your if it's a funk or whatever you might want to call it, right? Or is that looking for a coach? Or is that looking for an energy healer just to help align, align your energy, which you know, I truly believe energy is everything, and that could be a whole other podcast, right?

Speaker 2:

So when you hit that point, you need to find help, because then that turns into feeling completely stuck and then feel, if we are stuck long enough, then we start to feel that depression and then the anxiety because now we're not doing anything and we're looking into the future and we're worrying about why am I not doing anything? And then what is this going to look like, you know, two months from now, if I can't get my crap together today? And so then we need to breathe and we need to, yeah, so I'm always like we need to ask for help, whatever that might look like within your area where you're at. But you know, I have a coach, my coach has a coach, and so we all need support. But again, it can be a really good friend that you need to vent to a colleague, whatever it is for you, but I really encourage, when you hit that point, that you ask for support.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's, that's a really good reminder. I'm like you, I'm almost always working with a coach and if I don't, if I'm in between coaches right now. But I also have a really, really strong support group, a mastermind of ladies that are. You know, we're like minded and that really helps. You know, when you are feeling the, when you have the little stocks, we're like I'm just a little stuck. They can kind of get you going again. And those bigger stocks man working with a professional, depending on what you need, whether, like you say, whether it's a business coach or relationship coach, a life coach or an energy healer I'm all in on all of that. If you've been listening to my podcast a while, you know that we've done several episodes on energy healing and such, and it's just it really can help help shift things for you. So, yeah, I am again great reminders for me personally, even though I know these things. So if you're listening and you're like, oh, I never thought of, well, don't worry about it, because I know all this stuff and I need the reminders too. So I should say I know all this stuff but it makes me think of.

Speaker 1:

Maybe you've seen there's a meme that goes, has been going around on social media and it says something about like, have you have trouble asking for help? And it's this picture of this guy moving a couch by himself. He's got the one end and on the other end it's like a rolly chair and like, for some reason, that like hits with me, but like clearly hits with so many other people. It's not always easy to ask for help. Some people have no trouble, but there's a whole mess of us that we, for whatever reason, whether it's we think we have to prove it to ourselves, or we think we're not worth you know, self worth isn't high enough to have somebody come help us, or whatever that can be hard to ask for help.

Speaker 2:

But it's really hard and I think that you know that again has been the conditioning that you know we've been taught that we need to be independent and if we're independent and strong, that connects us to our self worth. But we have to look back decades and centuries, you know, everyone was a village, everyone helped each other, and we've lost that a lot, that whole connection piece, right. So so, asking for support and not thinking that we're putting other people out that's my other thing too is that don't try to guess what someone else is thinking. And I learned this I we had foster daughters and I needed help between my children and my foster children picking up a daughter from gymnastics. And I was, I could I have a sister in law and a brother in law that live really close. But in my head I was like, well, they're really busy, they have their own kids and I don't want to put them out, right.

Speaker 2:

And then, as the universe has it right, she phoned me while I'm thinking about this and she's like how's it going? And, you know, do you need any help with anything? And I was like, well, actually, you know, I know you're busy, but that could you, you know. And she's like, oh my gosh, that works out perfectly. We're in town that night anyway, I can pick them up. And she's like don't ever think that we can't help because you don't. Only I know what I can do and I will let you know if I can't. And I was like, right, I need to just reach out. And 99% of the time people are like I would love to help you and I've learned that I'll be honest if I need to say no, and I will respect and expect my friend to say that too if they can't help at that time. So just ask.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah. You are just full of good reminders today, Kim. I love all of this stuff. I mean, this is like one of those podcasts where I'm like, okay, writing down Mental note for Mindy. So, Kim, of all the things that we've been been talking about and of all the work that you do, what is one thing that you wish everybody knew that would?

Speaker 2:

just make life better. And you know, I've kind of thought about this and I have a lot of things, but I think that I really think that listening to your intuition is the thing. But I'm going to leave you with an acronym of STOP. So if everyone would implement STOP, you will feel better I can guarantee this and that you will find more balance in your life. So the S stands when you're feeling out of sorts, when you're feeling off track, overwhelmed, you have a problem, you have a decision to make, doesn't matter. You S means stop, literally, stop what you're doing.

Speaker 2:

Stop, take one breath is the T, o is observe what's happening in your body, observe what your intuition, what your gut, what your body is telling you, and then proceed with what your body is saying. And you know, I think that this I want to simplify it it can be as simple as someone stopping taking a breath, listening, being like I'm actually hungry, I have an eight for seven hours. Oh, that solves a lot of problems right now. Why I'm in tears when I thought oh, my gosh, you know this huge problem when really I have an eight. So it can be really small things, but it makes a massive change. And so, if I can tell any, all of you just to take, take that stop with you and really just stop, take a breath, observe and then proceed with what the best action is for your body and your energy at that exact moment.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think that's really great advice. I like there's another one to write down. I like that, I like that acronym and and I'm as I'm thinking here. So my background is a holistic, is as a holistic health and nutrition coach, and one of the things and I've given done podcast episodes on this before is how we see physical manifestations that really have this emotional root right.

Speaker 1:

So we have, you know, chronic back pain. Why don't I have back pain? I don't even know where this came from, but it's just, I guess, old age or whatever, but really it's. You know, you have emotions that weren't dealt with and were stored somewhere because, like you say, everything is energy and I think if more people implement this stop acronym, when you stop and you're listening to your body and your intuition, then you're going to kind of deal with the stuff before it manifests into some physical condition. So amen to that. Love it. Oh, cam, I love all these things that you said. This was a fun episode. I'm really glad that I got the chance to connect with you. So if other people would like the chance to connect with you, how can they find you?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they can find me at innerpoweredleaderscom or LinkedIn and Facebook. Kim Deshane.

Speaker 1:

Very cool, and I will put that website link right in the show notes for people that are wanting to just find you with a click of a button. And again, cam, thank you so much for being on here today. Again, this was so many like good reminders for me, obviously, so I appreciate your time.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, thank you. I'm really grateful to you, Mindy, and for all of your listeners.

Speaker 1:

Thank you and for everybody that is listening, I hope that you got something fun out of this today, just like I did. Shoot me a message and tell me what your main takeaway was, or if you have implemented one of Kim's strategies. I'd love to hear how that went for you, so don't hesitate to reach out. I love hearing from listeners about stuff that they picked up. From these guests and wherever you're at today, I hope you are having a fantastic day. I will catch you on the next one. That's it for today. Friends, if you enjoyed this episode, don't forget to subscribe or, even better, leave a review and let me know what resonated with you. The more you tell me what you love, the better I'm able to create future episodes with even better content. I'm sending you so much love and light. I'll see you in the next episode.

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