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Embracing Growth and Self-Awareness: Mitzi Campbell on Transformative Self-Discovery

January 30, 2024 Mindy Duff Season 6 Episode 71
Embracing Growth and Self-Awareness: Mitzi Campbell on Transformative Self-Discovery
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Up-Level Your Life with Mindy
Embracing Growth and Self-Awareness: Mitzi Campbell on Transformative Self-Discovery
Jan 30, 2024 Season 6 Episode 71
Mindy Duff

Embark with me, Mindy Duff, on a transformative odyssey into the heart of self-discovery and personal expansion, where the wisdom of Mitzi Campbell, a luminary in psychology and education, illuminates our path. We traverse the landscape of life's challenges, interpreting discomfort as a compass that points to growth and employing storytelling as a powerful tool for transcending personal barriers. This episode isn't just a conversation; it's a masterclass in introspection and the art of embracing the greatness that lies dormant within us.

As we peel back the layers of financial entanglement and spiritual ascension, we unpack the gifts wrapped in our recurring obstacles, turning them into stepping stones. This soulful exploration into the power of affirmations and mind movies for visualization promises not just to inform but to transform your belief patterns, leading to a life of congruence with your desires.

Mitzi's journey from the halls of academia to the realms of podcasting brings home the transformative value of self-awareness and reflection. By giving ourselves the permission to stretch beyond our limits, we enter a world brimming with potential. So tune in for this enlightening dialogue and arm yourself with practical tools like journaling strategies for meditation, the significance of repetition for behavioral change, and the courage to embrace every step toward inner stillness. Join us on this expedition to step into the highest expression of yourself.

To learn more about Mitzi, visit:  https://www.blessonspodcast.com/

To learn more about Mindy CLICK HERE

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Embark with me, Mindy Duff, on a transformative odyssey into the heart of self-discovery and personal expansion, where the wisdom of Mitzi Campbell, a luminary in psychology and education, illuminates our path. We traverse the landscape of life's challenges, interpreting discomfort as a compass that points to growth and employing storytelling as a powerful tool for transcending personal barriers. This episode isn't just a conversation; it's a masterclass in introspection and the art of embracing the greatness that lies dormant within us.

As we peel back the layers of financial entanglement and spiritual ascension, we unpack the gifts wrapped in our recurring obstacles, turning them into stepping stones. This soulful exploration into the power of affirmations and mind movies for visualization promises not just to inform but to transform your belief patterns, leading to a life of congruence with your desires.

Mitzi's journey from the halls of academia to the realms of podcasting brings home the transformative value of self-awareness and reflection. By giving ourselves the permission to stretch beyond our limits, we enter a world brimming with potential. So tune in for this enlightening dialogue and arm yourself with practical tools like journaling strategies for meditation, the significance of repetition for behavioral change, and the courage to embrace every step toward inner stillness. Join us on this expedition to step into the highest expression of yourself.

To learn more about Mitzi, visit:  https://www.blessonspodcast.com/

To learn more about Mindy CLICK HERE

Speaker 1:

Hey friends, this is your host, mindy Duff, and you're listening to Uplevel your Life with Mindy, your number one personal growth podcast that will bring you closer to uncovering your greatest self. As a certified holistic health and nutrition coach, I created this podcast for anyone who desires to improve physically, emotionally and spiritually. I'll be interviewing experts and sharing tips and tricks that have helped not only my clients, but that have guided me on my own transformational journey. I believe that we all have a greatness that lies within. We just need to uncover it. Are you ready to level up? Let's begin.

Speaker 1:

Hi everyone and welcome back to Uplevel your Life with Mindy. I am your host, mindy Duff, and today we're going to talk about blocks like road blocks in your life and comfort zones and all kinds of probably kind of uncomfortable things, but that's life and that's all of our lives. Every day, we encounter at least a tiny little road block, so we're going to talk about that and how to overcome it or go around it, or I don't even know what to do. I'm not the expert on this at all, so I'm going to learn right alongside you guys. I have brought Mitzi Campbell with me today and she is the expert on this stuff. So, mitzi, thanks for being here today.

Speaker 2:

Aw, thank you so much, mindy. I'm so excited to be here. You know, I have to say a lot of times people will call me Mindy.

Speaker 1:

Really, I'm fine with anything. I have a sister whose name is Mitzi and she would sometimes get called Mitzi and then also like, who names their kids Misty and Mindy? But my mom and dad, wow, never confusing my Mitzi and Kristie are my.

Speaker 2:

Me and my sister are Mitzi and Kristie, so it's just beautiful.

Speaker 1:

That's a little bit of a tongue twister too, but what do you do? So, mitzi, can you, before we dig into these questions that I've got for you today, can you tell us just a little bit about yourself and what it is that you do?

Speaker 2:

I can. Yes, well, I've always been in my professional life a teacher and educator, and I also have a degree in psychology, and I've also been very involved in the arts. I worked in photography and with a non-profit arts organization for many, many years. So I have these three pillars in my life that are very prominent, and I'm kind of one of those multi-passionate people. So, long story short after over 25 years in higher education, I was working as a professor and I made a major change in my life and in my career by pivoting from higher education and academia into podcasting and entrepreneurship.

Speaker 2:

I really felt as many people did, I think, over the past several years that it was time to make a change.

Speaker 2:

I was not feeling aligned with that work any longer in that capacity, and I felt really confined in the four walls of the classroom and I wanted to bring my message to a wider audience.

Speaker 2:

I think a lot of people felt that call during the pandemic, and so I was one of those people, and so I decided to start a podcast, the Blessings Podcast, and then began to build on to that with work with people in the area of self-discovery, working through trauma healing and using the life story, which is kind of the theme of my podcast to inform your ability to make meaningful changes in your life, to become kind of the person you envision yourself to be in the future or even now, today, and to find out what's been holding you back. And really, what I discovered, especially after talking to so many people now, is that we all have all the information that we need in order to level up. We have all the data. It's in our life stories, it's all there in your experiences, and it's just a matter of figuring out how to find it, recognize it and then use it to make it work for you instead of against you.

Speaker 1:

I love that work that you're doing. I think it's really important because I think a lot of us, maybe even everybody, I don't know at some point in your life you feel kind of stuck, and I know I certainly have experienced moments where it's like gosh, I feel like something's not right. I know I could be doing something more or something different, but I just don't know even where to go or what is the next step. You just don't know. You just have that feeling inside that this ain't it right. But to know on your own, it's really hard sometimes to see the forest through the trees. So I think that's why working with somebody like yourself that can kind of have a broader perspective and say, well, let's dig into this, and has a little more knowledge on that, I think it's really beneficial probably to everybody, everybody that's open and willing to do some of that work. So super cool work that you're doing there.

Speaker 2:

Thank you and what you just said there, mindy. I want to touch on that, because you said we have a feeling inside and that's your first clue about where you need to go, because that's where the feeling is, that's where the answers are. So you have to go in there and instead of letting that feeling bother you, because we get that feeling, we think, oh, that's uncomfortable, I don't want to feel that, and we sort of shy away from it. But the trick is you've got to go into it.

Speaker 2:

You got to go inside and really tussle with it. So that's the answer. Yeah, I think I love that.

Speaker 1:

I think that it's almost kind of cliche. We hear all answers lie within. But it's true. I mean, there's a reason why. How many times have people on their deathbed said things like I wish I knew that everything was always inside me? That's what they mean, all these people. The answers lie with it. It's just if you are listening to it going, ok, but how, I don't get it. That's where. Well, there's a lot of people out there that can help guide you inward. Nothing is external that's going to help us level up to that degree and live to our full potential, like you say, internal. I love that, love that.

Speaker 1:

Now I want to talk to you specifically about some blocks, and I'm excited for my first question here, because this is something that I kind of wrestle around with once in a while. So I know that sometimes we have obstacles on our path We'll call them blocks and I also think that sometimes some of us self included feel like ooh, is this a block, or is the universe trying to redirect me? Like, is this something that I'm going towards, that I think I want? Is that really not in my best interest and that's why it's so hard to get it, or is it just a block that I need to like a hurdle. I need to learn how to overcome. How the heck do you tell the difference between the two, or or do you not feel like there is a difference between the two?

Speaker 2:

No, I think they're two different things. I mean, I I think you know blocks are internal, and so that's that's the first thing I would notice about blocks. And your block is not necessarily Something that you need to get beyond, but it is something that's telling you alright, just stop here for a minute and pause and notice this. So you then have to go to that inside place and say to yourself alright, what's happening and why is this block here? So, before you can even determine whether you need to keep pushing through the block or it's telling you to turn around and go Back in a different direction, you have to look at it, you have to examine it and then you have to say, alright, where is it coming from? Because the block is going to be related to something in your life. It's not just coming to you out of nowhere, it's not just out of the blue, and maybe the same block keeps coming back for you over and over again, and that's even more of a sign that this is something in your life you need to go back in and figure out. So you have, you know, a money block, which is the common, common block for a lot of us, and this is a sign that you're going to go back into your life and you're going to let memories and experiences flow back into your mind and You're going to come up with scenarios, things that have happened in your experience that are related to that block, so that you will be able to see patterns. You'll be able to see those dots that have been invisible to you until now, because, as you let the memories and the experiences from your past flow back into your life, that's gonna make Give you information about the block. So what's the block trying to tell me? And then you get to decide All right, if this block is related to an old belief that I have had about Using money as the example. About money, you know you have to work hard Every day and kill yourself and do the grind in the hustle to get money, or you know you can't afford nice things. Only the rich people have the nice things. We don't have those. You know. Those are certain things that came from my childhood that I can identify, and so Then you get to decide as an adult Do do I want to keep those beliefs anymore?

Speaker 2:

What are the beliefs I have that I didn't even have any idea I had. What are the beliefs I have, that somebody else formed in my life a long time ago, and so one of the things to realize, I think, when you encounter a block, is that it's also a choice. So block is representing a choice that you have and you can make the decision At your stage now, as an adult, rather than as the person who you were when that block Probably presented itself for the first time in your life, or that belief. You get to make the choice now about what you want to do about it. So when you go back and you see what are the patterns, what are the beliefs you get to decide. What are?

Speaker 2:

Which beliefs do I have that are limiting me, which are going to represent those blocks, and which do I have that are empowering me, which you're going to represent the places where you can, you know, go over the blocks, go around the blocks, could dig under the blocks, jump over whatever you need to do. So empowering allows you to get past it and the limiting is going to Cause you to really get stuck. And then you know how is that related to the universe Trying to redirect you? I feel like the signs that the universe is trying to redirect you are more external. So when you're looking at the block, I feel like that's an internal issue and the Redirection is more of an external issue. So this is when it's something that happens in your life that you realize this is, this is happening now, and I have to remember that the universe is always working for my highest good. So this is something that is happening for me, not to me.

Speaker 2:

So those that's how you can tell the difference. Is it internal, is it external? And I I feel like they are. You know distinctly two different things. So if you've got something coming into your life that's causing you to Pivot, you know, for example, my, my pivot in my career path was the catalyst to that was a health issue. I had a health issue and it caused me to not be able to teach that semester, which caused me to reassess my entire career and life path. So that was a redirection. It wasn't a block, it was redirection. So that's, that's how I tell the difference.

Speaker 1:

Okay, yeah that is a little helpful. I feel like, yeah, that's gonna help me. There's still, I think, some great area there, but that will certainly like whittle things down quite a bit, because I like, when you're talking about generally, you know external might be universe, internal that certainly helps clarify, like the blocks anyway, and I love that you say when you hit a block, because a lot of times we're aware of that, there's something you know and usually it doesn't take too much to identify yourself, like what is the problem here? You can feel something there, but I like that. That's like a stop and pause moment, you know, not just like a frustration beat your head against the wall, how do I get over this? No, it's like a, a stop and pause for, like, when you hit road construction and you have no choice, you can't turn around, there's a line of cars behind you, you can't go forward because they won't let you. So you have to just stop and pause. Okay, well, you're here, so you might as well like think about it and identify hey, what's going on. I think that makes so much sense because I'm not sure where you're at with this Missy. But and people listening can agree or disagree I think that when we, before we come or side, I feel like we have some kind of Say in in our life at a little bit.

Speaker 1:

I don't think that everything's predetermined. I think once we're here we can choose pretty much whatever we want. But I think that when we choose to come and be born and incarnate on this earth, that we choose certain types of lessons for ourselves and so that we can develop and grow as a soul. That's my personal belief. You can agree or disagree, but that makes sense to me. When we have these blocks and like you say, they'll keep coming up. It's the same thing again and again until you truly Deal with it and like learn and understand. So if you keep having those same let's say, money blocks and you just keep doing the same stuff, it's gonna keep giving you that same lesson, which might be an unfortunate one, until you can fully deal with it.

Speaker 1:

So I love the advice there to just stop and notice it. And then you said that it's a choice, like it's a time to choose now and I want to choose the same.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know, if you, if you go on, you know and I tend to also believe that that makes sense that philosophy of our, the idea that we come in with an assignment, we come in with a predetermined kind of path, that you know we do, as humans, have free will, and the other thing we have as humans, as is emotion. So, you know, if you're, if you believe that, that you have an essence, that spirit, that soul that's, you know from source, or you know Whatever it is, your belief is about how we come in and incarnate and how the cycle runs. That part of you, that essence, it's not the part of you that has the emotion. And so, when you encounter the block, if you could remove the emotion and take it as Just data and say, all right, well, what if this is my assignment, to learn something from this experience, even if I don't really believe that? What if it is? What if that's true? Then okay, what am I supposed to learn? What do I do? How do I take this as information and Parlay it into something useful that's gonna push me forward in my life?

Speaker 2:

Because, if you do go on, you know that, that philosophy that we're here to learn and then, as a result, ascend and, like you know, the Buddhist believe in the cycle of samsara. So you're constantly going through the cycle and you're going and you're coming back and coming back Until you continue to ascend, and ascend, and ascend until you don't need to come back anymore. So if you believe that, then it makes sense that, all right, the faster I can learn my lessons, then the easier it's gonna be for me. And I think, even if you don't believe that, just believing in that that I just said, like, the faster I can learn from something, the easier it's going to be. So even if you don't believe in any of the other woo-woo stuff, it doesn't matter, because that will be true for you as a human being.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yeah, oh, absolutely. That's a really great point. I like that you said to remove emotion, because I think it's so. I always am so aware of everybody else's problems and their issues and it's so easy to I mean people listening. You know, you have friends, you have family members where you're like, well, I can clearly see what's there because you're not in it. You know, especially if there's someone that's like a little more removed from you, you can see, oh well, clearly they need to do X, y, z or whatever. But when it's yourself, it's just so hard, and I think that's now that you say that that makes sense. That's why it's the emotion that's tied to it.

Speaker 2:

That it's just too hard to separate. We're attached to ourselves. Yeah, absolutely so you can practice non-attachment with other things and other people more easily than you can with yourself.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, so you can see thinking of it as another person or writing it on literal paper, so it's black and white can help you.

Speaker 2:

That's a great idea. Yeah, taking it away from yourself and thinking of it as something separate from you, that the block or the issue, that's a really good idea.

Speaker 1:

Human A has this problem, right. What would we recommend? So now you've given a little bit here, you know taking the emotion out of it and whatnot, but do you have any other tips on getting past blocks? So let's say that somebody's like, okay, well, I'm at a block right now, let's see, and I know what it is. Maybe you even have awareness. I guess in my own life I can think of stuff that, like just recently, has come up again and I've been so frustrated because I'm aware of the block, I know what it is, I know that it's recurring, and so I feel strongly that this is a life lesson for me. It's important for me to kind of work through it, but I don't know how, like, I don't know how, right. So what are some steps that people could do when they're at that point?

Speaker 2:

Well, I think the very first thing you have to do is just give yourself the grace to take the pause. That's number one, don't you know? It doesn't need to be solved right away. Nothing needs to be solved right away Almost nothing. Maybe there are a few very rare cases where that's true. But you have time. I just read something this morning and it was along those lines of you know, the soul doesn't rush, the soul doesn't have a sense of time. So just taking a moment to pause is the first thing.

Speaker 2:

I think that whenever there is a block and it keeps recurring and you haven't figured out you think you know what's behind it you haven't figured it out. It's not going away then you haven't figured it out. There's something else there, and so that means that you need to go deeper. That means you need to keep going in. That means you need to keep letting memories come back. It means you need to open your mind so that in the moments when you're not concentrating on it, you can allow it to come in. Because if you're concentrating too hard on the block and overcoming it, then what you're effectively doing is you're pushing on a door to get into some place, but really the door has a big sign on it that says pull. And so you keep pushing when the universe is telling you just relax, just pull, just let the door come toward you. And so then what happens to all of us is, when we do that thing, where we released, then it always comes.

Speaker 2:

As you hear the stories about the women who are trying desperately to have a baby and they keep trying, and they keep trying, and they keep trying. And then what happens? One day they give up, they say, all right, well, maybe it's not for me, maybe I'm not meant to be a mother, and then before you know it, they're expecting. And this is what happens. It's the same thing with the block. So that's my biggest tip and actively working on it you do in kind of a passive way. I think that the biggest place where this happens for me is in meditation, and I know a lot of people have trouble sitting still and meditating, and that's okay. But if you can get yourself to sit for a period of time, even just 10 minutes, 15 minutes and build up a little bit, because that really is another time when you're able to tap into uncovering things that are hidden.

Speaker 2:

So if the box is still there, it's because there's something you can't see.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, oh, that's a really great reminder. And a great reminder on the meditation too. I think a lot of people you're right they think, oh, I can't do it. Every time you sit down to meditate, even if it was a quote bad one, there is no bad one. And where you think you know my mind is everywhere and I can't do it, you got what you needed. Yes, and every time you sit down to even try is you're just going to get closer and closer to that time where you're going to have a day where, oh, I actually felt a little bit of stillness there for a moment. That's a really good reminder, though I think you know going deeper, but I think the meditation probably is for me I'm thinking me personally that's probably going to really help me is just to concentrate more on getting the meditation time in.

Speaker 2:

Yes, it's making that more of a priority instead.

Speaker 1:

Of just like oh look, I have 10 minutes now.

Speaker 2:

Like, yeah, absolutely. And then the other thing too. I say with meditation, like I've had people tell me well, I have ADHD, so I can't meditate. All right, well, and I know that that's really hard for some people. It definitely is, but your mind is active in meditation, even when you're not aware of your thoughts and you get to the place where you're not having those invasive thoughts they call it the monkey mind in yoga and even if you get to the place where you kind of get past that stage, your mind is still active, it's just that your consciousness is not aware of it. So there's a lot. You have to trust that there's a lot going on behind there.

Speaker 2:

And another tip, I think, for people who do have trouble sitting is sit there with a journal and then every time something comes into your mind and you can't stand it and you just you feel like you're not able to get to the place of stillness. Okay, so just stop and write down what's coming out, write down what's in your mind and then go back. And if you go back for another minute, something comes up, okay, now I'm going to stop, write it down again and then eventually you'll go into longer stretches and you won't have to stop and empty your mind and then you'll just keep building up the practice. I didn't think I could meditate for a long time either, until I took a course with Joe Dispenza. I took the Dr Joe Dispenza course. That's on his website and he offers a few long meditations there. There are 45 minutes to an hour and I have done some of my most meaningful healing during those meditations. Thanks for tuning in.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, he's got some good stuff. If you guys aren't familiar with Joe, dispensers work. It's absolutely fascinating it really yeah you're right.

Speaker 1:

I like that suggestion to write this stuff down, because I think there's a tendency maybe not for everybody, but for some of us that when you have those thoughts, sometimes they are important thoughts and you don't want to forget them, Like, oh shoot, I forgot I needed to call and cancel this appointment or whatever, whatever it is, and then to give yourself permission to stop and write it down. I think that there's this perception of what meditation has to look like.

Speaker 1:

So people think that, oh no, if I'm not sitting still perfectly for 20 minutes, then I didn't do it. Well, if what you needed to do was stop and write it down, stop and write it down Like that's a great, just permission slip, really, to let people know, Okay, and then I think you're right. Like you say, it'll go for longer and longer stretches and then you'll find where you're not needing to do it at all because you're training yourself. It's a practice, Just like yoga, just like working out, running anything. You're not going to run the marathon on day one, right? That's right. Well, that's really helpful on blocks. But let's talk and switch it over to comfort zones for a little bit here, because I am guilty of this. I love my comfort zones because they're comfortable. Is there ever a time that you think it's okay to stay in a comfort zone?

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah absolutely, of course. Yeah, I mean, you want to know where your boundaries are, you want to know what makes you feel good. You want to understand that about yourself, because it's important, because you want to build more of that in your life. You want more of that. And it's the same, I think, when I think about comfort zones, because there's a lot.

Speaker 2:

I actually just did a lot of research on this for a for a for a little podcast I put out, and there is a lot of science behind the idea that doing things that make us uncomfortable builds brain power. It builds neural connections in the brain and it stimulates some of the feel good hormones in our bodies to be able to accomplish something that's difficult. So we should, and we regularly are naturally put into situations where you have to push yourself outside of your comfort zone. So as you do that, what happens to your comfort zone is that it grows, it expands. So you should embrace your comfort zone in that way of wanting it to be expanded. You know I want things. I want more things to feel comfortable, because then I'm going to have more space.

Speaker 2:

Like, if your comfort zone is only this big, like a tiny little egg and a chicken there. What happens when the chick starts to grow? It's got to break out of the egg, you know. It's got to break out of the comfort zone naturally, and this happens to all kinds.

Speaker 2:

I just was thinking about this. It happens to all kinds of animals in the natural world. You know the turtle inside of its shell, that's its comfort zone. But if the turtle goes into its shell and it's in the middle of the road and it's in its comfort zone, it's going to be bad ending for the turtle. He's going to have to get out of his little comfort shell and scramble across the road.

Speaker 2:

So if we think of ourselves in that way that, yes, there's a place for us to feel safe, to feel loved, to feel you know that self love, to feel comfortable, to feel like you know all warm and cozy and that's all beautiful we need that. But we also need to grow if we want to progress as humans. And so and part of that progression is experiencing things that are not always intended and things that are sometimes difficult, and those are the experiences that really cause us to ascend, I think, at a spiritual level and also at a human level, to build on, to strengthening our brains, literally, and our bodies, like everything about you, gets better when you push yourself outside of your comfort zones.

Speaker 1:

So that's what I feel about comfort zones.

Speaker 2:

I don't think that it's. I don't think that it is wise to use the comfort zone as an excuse, and I think I see that happening, where people say, oh, you know, you're, you're pushing me outside of my boundaries, my boundaries, you know, and and I think that's getting a little overused, because we do not want to fall into the trap of validating, being stuck, Because otherwise then we're just going to be unhappy and the goal, I think, for all people in my mind is to be happy and free. That's kind of a Buddhist thing as well, but, like you know, the goal is for all people, all beings, to be happy and free and and you know, that can only happen if you're able to experience things that push you a little bit at times.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I agree completely with that and I think that, yes, growth is so important. What do you, what do you think that we should do, though, when we start to slide into our comfort zone? And I'll let you think on this for just a second. I think I've shared with this before on this podcast. I'll just very briefly share just kind of an image that a former coach of mine shared with me, and that's this idea of if you have like a rubber band around your finger and then around two fingers I'm holding my fingers up, like everyone can see me, but let's just listening, you can't just know.

Speaker 1:

My fingers are held up, imagine a rubber band between them, and then you start pulling one finger away. You know that's you stretching and growing and growing and stretching and stretching and stretching, but what happens is, when you stretch that rubber band too far, it's too tight, so it's either going to, you know, snap or whatever, so then you start to want to bring it back. That happens in our lives all the time. Ever since that analogy, I see that happen in my life, when I start to grow and ooh, I'm really making some changes, and then, pretty soon, I'm like wait a minute, here I go right back to where I start. How did this happen? Noticing it is the first step, but what do you think that we should do once we start to notice ourselves sliding back?

Speaker 2:

Well, as you're doing that with your fingers, what I'm picturing is so if you had something like the say, your two fingers are like two goal posts on the football field, right, and let's pretend they're not connected, that they're just two poles, right? So if you put that rubber band in between two poles and you start to move one of the poles and then you're talking about the stretching, well, what's going to happen? To relieve that stretching, what can happen, what should happen, is that the first pole can move with it, and that's what you want to do. That's the comfort zone expanding. So, now that there's more room, so you want to move with it, you don't want to move against it, and so you know, then it won't need to come back and contract, it'll keep expanding.

Speaker 2:

So we do need contraction. I mean because you know, think about the way that an ocean moves. It's constantly expanding and contracting and that's a natural flow of movement. We do need that. But you know, there are times when you experience a sort of growth, or, you know, personal expansion, where then you can ease into it and move with it. So you know, it's like, you know, doing a workout with your muscles. You know your muscles are going to start to grow and become more, developed more, and that's serving you well. You're becoming stronger and so as you develop your muscles and then you know, you pull back a little bit, you don't work out as hard that week, and then the next week you do it again, and then it grows a little bit more, and then you know. So it's like that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, and being okay with a little bit of slide, and then be like, okay, this is what it is, come on other poll, let's jump on over. That's right. That's what that coach that shared that analogy with me. She had said. That's when the people make these quote, unquote quantum leaps in their lives. Where you're you know we've all had that friend where you're like whoa, wow, how did you all of a sudden accomplish that? Or you lost all that weight, or you did whatever. The thing is that you did when you've been over here for a long time and now wow, it's shooting the rubber band over to the new set point, creating that new set point for you all the time.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, moving the goalpost, move the goalpost.

Speaker 1:

I like that.

Speaker 2:

That can be a bad thing in a logical, healthy way, but it's also but it's a good thing if you're doing it intentionally for expansion. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yes, if it's intentional and you have the awareness, then it's a good thing For the better If it's done right, yes.

Speaker 1:

Let's see, I was digging around on your website a little bit in preparation for this interview and I noticed that you have a list of five steps that you use when working with clients and I was reading through them and I was like yep, yep, yep, yep. And then I got to one and I was like what does that mean? So we're going to talk about that. Let me share with everyone that's listening. That hasn't been on your podcast or your website yet. Step number one is dig up root causes. I think that makes sense. I think we all can understand. Okay, you got to see what the issue is. Louise Hay always said you got to see the dirt if you want to clean your house. Right, right, number two you have listed as identify false beliefs. Yes, the things that we kind of talked about that a little bit with the blocks. What have you been believing? That's not necessarily serving you. Can you rewire your brain a little bit there? I get that. Then you say heal mistaken meaning.

Speaker 1:

We're going to come back to that and rebuild and transmute, which makes sense. We're building up, we're creating something new, and then meet and greet your true self. So that makes sense to me also. Like okay, here we are kind of where we wanted to be reaching that goal. But that middle part is intriguing to me, so heal mistaken meaning. Can you explain that a little bit more?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, when you have, when you're developing and you're especially in your childhood and most especially before the age of seven, you are accumulating beliefs about the world, and these things are coming from mostly your external environment. At that stage, and as you begin to form your own identity and your self expands and you're learning to make your own judgments about things in the world, you're taking patterns that have been established in your environment, oftentimes by other people and by your experiences, when you're not able to be autonomous, and so you're creating beliefs about the world. And that's what you're. You're, the way that you make meaning of things in life is based on your beliefs about the world, and a lot of our beliefs about the world are formed outside of ourselves, and so you get to, when you're identifying your beliefs that you've established as a young person and you get to name them, you say, all right, here are the memories that are coming up for me. These are the experiences I remember in my life. Some of them are really horrible, some of them are very wonderful, but what's behind those experiences and why they're still significant in your mind are the four is the formation of those beliefs, and so it's the meaning that's been established in your, in your life, as a child, basically and you can establish meaning and beliefs all through your life. But those foundational beliefs are the ones we really wanted to dig into, especially if we're interested in overcoming or getting around these blocks that we talked about. Yeah, so, yeah.

Speaker 2:

So you, you have to be very intentional about examining the beliefs, deciding which of those beliefs are serving you. What is the belief causing me to do in my life today? What behaviors are a result of those beliefs? What habits are a result of those beliefs? What activities am I doing? You know what kind of even even down to things like your job and who you're hanging around with, and everything about your life that could be based on something that's false. Maybe somebody in your family had a belief about the world that just simply something that it just isn't true about the world, and that was what you grew up with and you still continue to believe it.

Speaker 2:

And so healing mistaking meaning means forgiveness For how those beliefs were formed in the first place. That might mean forgiving someone else, it might mean forgiving a parent, might mean forgiving yourself For continuing to believe it. Whatever the case may be. I mean, I think there's a lot to unpack in that Work. But yeah, healing the mistaken meaning is just saying, alright, I'm gonna go in and look at what beliefs I have that are really either outright false or just not serving me, or not beliefs I want to hold anymore. Like I get to choose what my beliefs are. Your beliefs are choice and they're based on repetitive thoughts.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, and there it is.

Speaker 2:

Oh, that makes so much sense.

Speaker 1:

So Because they're the repetitive thoughts. So I think it's not. You can't just change it overnight, but I think that the biggest part maybe you can tell me if I'm wrong it seems like the biggest part is identifying whoa. I didn't even realize it, but I have been believing this all along, because then every time it comes up, you're like you can catch yourself and go oh, wait a minute, I don't believe that anymore, that's right, and then you can can move from there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, exactly yeah. And and I think that if you are Knowing that you want to have a new belief around something, and you're starting to form the belief and you're you're even Articulating this new belief you want to have. But there can still be Things hidden that you haven't completely resolved, and so a lot of times people will come up with a new belief. You know I'll use the money as an example, but just because it's an easy one, you know you'll come up with a new belief around money. I am worthy of Beautiful things or what we know, whatever it is that you know you want. I am. I Am a person to whom money comes easily. You know it. Money flows to me effortlessly.

Speaker 2:

That's a little bit simplistic, but you know what I'm talking about. But you can have that new belief and you can keep saying it over and over like an affirmation, but it's not gonna do jack until you Go back into your life and figure out what is that false belief that I had and how can I heal it. So you got to heal it. So you know repatterning is a part of the healing process, but Going back in there and doing that work to actually heal the original foundational belief, that isn't serving you, figuring out why it's there and Doing some work of and I would say probably 99% of the time that's gonna involve some sort of forgiveness, mm-hmm.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, and it sounds like you're just gonna get more bang for your buck if you do that.

Speaker 1:

I mean you can do other things and make it pretty. It's as you were talking about that and you mentioned affirmations. It reminded me of oh, I have a couple of former podcast guests that are both. They they work together or they have a podcast together and they work separately, but one is a hypnotherapist and one really deals with just like manifestation, just straight up. Um, and Lindsay Robinson and Kelsey Iita if you're listening want to go back and check out those podcasts. They're really interesting, they're very knowledgeable women and I and I love them both. Um, I remember talking with one of them about like the affirmations. And If you don't believe, like, if you don't feel like when you say these affirmations, if you don't feel like excited by it, like yeah, I'm worthy, I am, you know, if you don't feel that, if you're just like, okay, I don't feel it, but I want to feel it, so I'm gonna say it, your manifestations cannot go happen.

Speaker 1:

Like it's just not because you know, and we can talk about energy and whatever, but it's just not there. So you know her advice and I think I still think it's great advice, like in the, the interim, you just need to find, like dial it down, find something that does feel good, that you could say that's maybe not like the ideal, but you know, you kind of dial it down to whatever. Okay, well, I don't believe that for myself, but I do believe this for myself, so I can at least say, like, maybe, if you don't think I'm a, I'm a multi-millionaire in six months, that's too far for you. But you can think, okay, I made an extra five thousand bucks in six months. You know, like something like that's like okay, well, maybe that actually could happen. I don't know how, but maybe you could.

Speaker 1:

So then you go with that. You could stop there. But it would be more worth your while to dig into the belief of why don't I believe I could be a multi-million? Why, why isn't that available to me? And then uncover that once you uncover that you can see oh, that's what I was believing. I don't want to believe that anymore. And then you can get to the point where those Outlandish affirmations maybe will feel good to you and you can start working on those too, so that's interesting, that's kind of a full circle moment for me there.

Speaker 2:

Let's see oh yeah, no, I think that's so true, like, and you could say something to yourself like you know, I, I take beautiful care of my family, and you know, because you do, and and you know things that are actually true. I mean, I, I love affirmations in themselves, in themselves, and I do believe that you know, you can make statements that are true, that Help you to shift your mindset. Yeah, and so that's, that's very true. And so you know, it might feel like silly to say something like I am a billionaire. It might feel silly to say that, so I get that. But but you, you can say things that are true. Like I am, I am a beautiful vessel for money to flow freely into my life.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

I am open to receiving billions of dollars like those things are all true.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely send it over.

Speaker 2:

I mean, aren't we all really great? I mean, I think those things are really true. I just did something recently that was really fun and it has been very useful in that area, and it was making what's called a mind movie. So I went into Canva and I made an actual movie With videos that has some of those those you know things that I want you know and yes, I have a picture of money flowing down yeah, loading around in the air, and I love watching this and I said it to music.

Speaker 2:

And then I put an affirmation at the beginning and at the end, along with a little bit of Kind of a kaleidoscope action thing and some meditational music, and my affirmation says I am all that I've ever wanted.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I love that. That's beautiful.

Speaker 2:

You know you can work with affirmations in a way that feels aligned and I love that doing that yeah.

Speaker 1:

I'm glad you mentioned those movie. I have made a mind movie too, but then I haven't watched it for a long time.

Speaker 2:

It's not going to do me any good.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's not going to do any good.

Speaker 2:

I love it I love it and I'm going to add more, more to it, you know, and, and I think it's great because you can continue to add to it. So, yeah, and I think.

Speaker 1:

Something else that is coming to mind is it's that repetition too. So, again, you have to feel what you're reading or watching or saying. It needs to kind of light you up a little bit. There's other reasons for that too, which we won't get into today. But you don't want to do things like we say, like oh, I'm a billionaire, when you're like no, I'm not. So again like what we said, but then it's that repetition. So like me, making the mind movie and then not watching it is not doing me any good. Or writing the affirmations but then never practicing them, not doing me any good. Because you mentioned this earlier when you were talking about like the, the ruts, and like the like our, our beliefs that we've had for so long. Those are ingrained in your brain deep, deep, like grooves in a dirt road. I'm a well worn path and you can make a new well worn path. It just takes repetition, and I I've known this to be true. But I'll tell you what this summer this is. I had to do a. I didn't have to, I chose to.

Speaker 1:

I was in a speaker competition, it was super fun and I had to memorize my speech. I usually, when I speak, I don't usually memorize word for word, because I do. I might talk for an hour, I'm not going to memorize that word for word. But this was just a short little thing and because it was a competition, I had to had to be done a certain way. I had to have it memorized right, and that is different for me. And so I practiced the crap out of that. I mean, I was like in the hotel room, like five times a day, like, just like practice, repeating it again and again. It's only five minutes, so I can do it a lot right, just constantly. And then I memorized it and it was great. I was in the lake, my Uber, like doing it, and whatever.

Speaker 1:

So then fast forward to like a couple weeks later and I think I was typing something. And I was typing an idea of the start of the sentence and it was related somehow to my talk. I wasn't thinking about the talk that I had given, but I typed the sentence out and then I was like whoa, that is word for word from my speech, like because it was a pattern in my brain. My brain knew, oh, these words go together and they mean what you're trying to say. And it was just like and that has happened so many times.

Speaker 1:

I've spoken those words again, like just in conversation, like it'll come out of my mouth in that, in a sentence from my speech, because it was so practiced and so patterned. I mean, I still mean it when I write it again and say it, but that string of words come together in that order from me because it's just like in me, it's part of that speech, is part of who I am right now. It just is. And the same can be true for the, whether it's the mind, movies or the affirmations or whatever. It's just practicing that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's right, that's right yeah absolutely so, mitzi.

Speaker 1:

I have a question of the month. I decided I'm asking everybody this question this month. I'm just curious. I kind of like it. So you're in this world of helping people live better lives. What is one thing that you wish everyone on the planet would do in regards to their their own well being?

Speaker 2:

Oh, I would say get really down and dirty honest with yourself. Take a look at yourself, self awareness. Yeah you know, and not being afraid of your past. I think there is a lot of fear cast around the idea of going into your past. You know, we hear you can get stuck there.

Speaker 2:

Oh my god you get stuck in your past. No way, and it's just simply not true. I mean, you're there. There's nothing to fear in looking at your past experiences. In fact, that is where the magic is, that's where the keys to growth lie in, you know, in most cases, looking back and learning, you know, and I think a lot of us go through life without we just we just like live and we're just like existing, instead of making meaning out of our experiences. So, self awareness in the, in the way of making meaning from your experiences, you know that people could just go a little deeper, be a little deeper.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, oh, I think that's great, great advice. I like that and I think you're right. Like people, we don't want to get stuck in our past, but I think if you're doing it intentionally, you're being very conscious of okay, I'm going to sit down for an hour today with my journal and I'm just going to intentionally dig a little bit and see what happens, and then all right hours up, move on, but then, you know, you will see what you can learn from that.

Speaker 2:

It's not possible to get stuck in the past, because you're always in the present moment. You're never anywhere else, and so if you have to remind yourself of that, just look down at your body. If you're getting a memory coming back to you that's making you uncomfortable, or even something traumatic that you that is causing you to stress, just take a second and look down at your body. You're not there. Yeah, you're here, you're right here, and so you can never be stuck there.

Speaker 1:

So you know, don't be afraid of that. Oh, that's great, great advice. So many great little nuggets of wisdom from Mitzi today. I have thoroughly enjoyed it. I took a little if you ever saw me like, looking down over here, I'm not doing a grocery list, I'm taking notes. So super interesting stuff, love this. So, mitzi, if there are other people listening today that were like, yes, this was so good, how do I learn more about Mitzi? Where is she? How do I find her? Where can we go?

Speaker 2:

Oh, you can go to my Instagram at Mitzi and Campbell. That's kind of my primary social media and then my website, mitzikamblecom, and I would love to connect with anyone who wants to. You know, just say hi, just, or ask me any questions, or just talk, or need a pep talk or you know anything at all I love to connect with people.

Speaker 2:

I'm all about connection these days. I mean, that's what I think. If I could say like the one thing that's been most exciting about my life since I pivoted that career, it's been the connections that I've been making. It's been the people.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

It's been the relationships and it's just a beautiful, beautiful shift in life when you can embrace connections and building and don't be afraid to reach out to somebody. You know, if you hear somebody on a podcast, whatever I've done, that I've reached out to people who I thought were way beyond my reach. You know, I hate to even say that about myself, but you know, and they respond People are just people. People are just people.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, oh, I love that. That's it. Yeah, and I often say at the end of my podcast you know, if you hear, if you had a thought that came up or something you wanted to contribute to the conversation, email me, message me and Mitzi as well, because I don't know about you. I love hearing, hearing stuff from obviously like talking about this stuff, so if you're going to message me and want to talk about it more, I'm here for that.

Speaker 2:

Deep talk, I mean for the deep talk. Yes, yes, oh my gosh, mindy. Thank you so much. Everything that we've talked about has been so simulating for me. I'm going to actually have a lot of brain food for today, good.

Speaker 1:

Good, good, well, thank you for being such a wonderful guest on this show. Love, love everything that you're about. Love following you on Instagram, love your podcast, love all that. So thank you for doing what you're doing. I am so glad that you pivoted and are doing this work now, and everybody else that's listening. I hope you are having a fantastic day and I will catch you on the next one. That's it for today. Friends, if you enjoyed this episode, don't forget to subscribe or, even better, leave a review and let me know what resonated with you the most. The more you tell me what you love, the better I'm able to create future episodes with even better content. I'm sending you so much love and light. I'll see you in the next episode.

Overcoming Blocks and Comfort Zones
Overcoming Blocks and Learning Life Lessons
Meditation and Comfort Zones
Expanding Comfort Zones for Growth
Personal Expansion and Overcoming Beliefs
Examining and Healing Beliefs and Manifestations
The Power of Repetition and Practice
Self Awareness
Appreciation for a Guest's Work