From Angry Vegan to Compassionate Influencer: Kate Galley on Mindfulness and Value-Driven Living

Ever witnessed someone's journey from fierce advocate to compassionate influencer? Kate Galli, an Australian health coach and my delightful guest, unveils her remarkable transition from an "angry vegan" to a beacon of love and understanding in promoting veganism. Her story is a testament to the incredible change that a shift in mindset can spark, not just in oneself but in others, as she shares the touching narrative of her mother's own journey towards a vegan lifestyle. Our conversation is a deep dive into the essence of personal growth and how aligning with our core values can be a powerful catalyst for sustaining healthy habits.

Navigating the choppy waters of social media can often lead to a spiral of negativity, but what if it became a source of inspiration instead? We talk about how cultivating a selective Instagram feed can reinforce a positive mindset, keeping you laser-focused on your health and business objectives. Kate and I extrapolate this concept to life itself, discussing how clarity in our 'why' can become the emotional fuel needed to overcome the hurdles we encounter. Listeners will find pragmatic guidance on reassessing their values and ensuring they're the compass guiding them through life's challenges.

Join us as we explore how to embrace these ebbs and flows, focusing on progress rather than perfection. With insights from Kate's strongbodygreenplanet.com, we wrap up by reinforcing the undeniable link between physical well-being and the pursuit of our passions, inviting you to join us in the quest for a morning routine that resonates with your spirit.

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Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:07

Hey friends, this is your host, mindy Duff, and you're listening to Uplevel your Life with Mindy, your number one personal growth podcast that will bring you closer to uncovering your greatest self. As a certified holistic health and nutrition coach, I created this podcast for anyone who desires to improve physically, emotionally and spiritually. I'll be interviewing experts and sharing tips and tricks that have helped not only my clients, but that have guided me on my own transformational journey. I believe that we all have a greatness that lies within. We just need to uncover it. Are you ready to level up? Let's begin. Hi everyone and welcome back to Uplevel your Life with Mindy. I'm your host, mindy Duff, and I have a guest with me today. I'm going to be chatting with Kate Galley, and she is a health coach from Australia, so this is super fun for me, being not Australian, getting to listen to your accent for the next half hour however long we're here here.

Speaker 1: 1:20

Kate knows so much stuff about so many different things that I couldn't even pick a great topic for this, so we're going to jump around. But I think that's fun, because she does know just so many things, and I'm just so excited to chat with you today, kate.

Speaker 2: 1:34

Thanks for being here, mindy, it is such a pleasure to be here and I am happy to jump around.

Speaker 1: 1:41

Well, before we get too much into anything, go ahead and tell us a little bit about yourself and what you do.

Speaker 2: 1:46

Amazing. As you mentioned, I'm a health coach author and podcaster from NUSA in Australia, and I guess I first got into fitness way back as a way to transform not only my body but also my confidence. I was a debilitatingly shy teenager and I spent almost two decades as a personal trainer and the thing I love about that One of the things I love most about that is helping people create the most effective mindset to make their eating and exercising actions simple and sustainable. So that's a little bit about where I'm at right now.

Speaker 1: 2:29

Yeah, I think simple and sustainable is the goal for everybody. I think most people that are listening, I feel like, even if you're somebody that's never struggled with weight per se, I think that all of us have had some kind of something to improve in regards to our health, and I love that your focus is on mindset, because that's really that's it. That's it for everything. That's it for your health, your finances, your relationships, everything it all goes back to mindset, so I'm so glad that you focus on that. Now, one of the things that you had mentioned in our communications was about how you stopped being an angry vegan, and I thought that was a really interesting statement. So I'm curious about you are vegan now. I am, yes, but no longer an angry vegan. Go back to when you were an angry vegan. Tell us about that a little bit.

Speaker 2: 3:24

So we've got to go back a little bit further than that for the angry vegan history, and I will say full transparency I am very much vegan. The angry part is a work in progress, right. So I became vegetarian for ethical reasons at 16 years old. I didn't want animals to die for my food choices. Fast forward 23 years of being vegetarian.

Speaker 2: 3:49

By that point in time, I was a vegetarian personal trainer, very focused on high protein, low carbohydrate vegetarian as the way to go, and I watched the documentary Calsturicy and I learnt that I'd been lied to. We've all been lied to. Animals were still dying for my food choices, particularly my 21 egg whites a day, which is hideously excessive, and I was angry that I'd been lied to. I was really frustrated that when I had that information and I shared it with everyone that I loved and any vegans listening will relate to this I thought they would make the changes that I'd made, and they didn't, and so for a number of years I carried around almost a constant anger and frustration. I became an animal rights activist and I hung out with other people that felt the same way, and you know that was amazing at first because I met some beautiful people. However, I guess I was in my little bubble with the other understandably angry vegans, and whether needing to change to love comes in, it's pretty heavy actually.

Speaker 2: 5:01

But it probably started with one Christmas. A few years in, I was living in Sydney. My dear mum rang me and she said Katie, I don't know what to do about Christmas because you're this animal rights activist and your dad's a mad meat eater, almost anti-vegan, and it's all about the food. And I don't know what we're going to do when you come home for Christmas, unless you want to mastermind a vegan feast and sell the family on it. And I was like amazing love, to mastermind that vegan feast. Perhaps you could sell the family on it. Anyway, I went home, I made all these new recipes. They went down really well. It was an amazing day.

Speaker 2: 5:44

And the day before I went home to Sydney after that trip, mum said to me can you watch what the health with me? Now this is a documentary that I've been emotionally blackmailing my parents to watch for a couple of years now. Strange thing, mindy, the emotional blackmail didn't work. You know I'd said all I want for my 40th birthday is for you to watch the health. I don't want any presence. Didn't happen. They didn't watch it.

Speaker 2: 6:08

After the vegan Christmas, mum and I sat down and we watched it and mum had been a nurse for 30 years, she knows. She related to the fact that we have a healthcare, a sick care system, not a healthcare system. We have such a reliance on drugs. She related to the fact that I guess people of lower socioeconomic position are impacted by factory farms more than the rest of us. She didn't relate to the animals, her heart wasn't open to them at that point. But she said, katie, I'm gonna try this plant-based thing for two weeks.

Speaker 2: 6:42

Fast forward, two years of mum being vegan and us getting so much closer. We were close, but I had so much respect for the fact that, as someone who lived with dad, who wasn't the least open to it, you know she was transforming all her. She's an amazing cook. She was transforming all her recipes to be plant-based. And so here's the heavy bit Just over two years ago, I got the phone call from dad that I had expected to be getting from mum.

Speaker 2: 7:14

I always expected that, katie, it's your dad phone call and actually it was my mum, and my mum had died suddenly just over two years ago, and that's just anyone that's experienced moving, losing the person they love most in their life, will know it's at least as bad as you imagine it it's going to be, and perhaps, if you're like me, you don't even imagine it because it's so bad you just don't even wanna think about it, or because mum was so beautiful and vibrant and generous and full of life, I just didn't think it would happen for another 25 years. And that's where the leading with love, not anger, comes in, because at that point in time and it didn't happen overnight, but I was so filled with sadness that it's almost like I didn't have the emotional capacity to also be angry with all the non-vegans in my life. I just didn't have the energy to continue like that and I also thought, if it had been dad, that I'd have regrets because of our relationship With mum. I had no regrets. We had our relationship.

Speaker 2: 8:19

It was amazing and I thought this is a huge block in our relationship and I need to try harder and I need to work at it and I need to focus on what we have in common. And so that's what I started to do that by that. And, as I say, it's a constant, daily struggle, but I have a few steps. I have three steps, cindy, that our listeners might find value, and it does not have to relate to a vegan lifestyle. It can relate to anything that you have friction in your relationships with loved ones. So it could be a lot of things. Sadly, shall I run through them.

Speaker 1: 8:57

Oh, absolutely.

Speaker 2: 8:58

So the first one it's an ABC and the first one is an awareness. So it's an awareness of what this current situation, the way you're feeling and being in the world, what it's gonna cost you if, six months down the track, 12 months down the track, 24 months down the track, nothing changes, how is that gonna impact your relationships with the people you love the most, with your friends and family, maybe your work colleagues? That's step A. Awareness. B is to brainstorm, and I had to go through this. I had to brainstorm all the things I can start doing and stop doing to make the situation better. So I actually stopped going to the animal rights activism groups. I stopped sharing horrific slaughterhouse videos online, because to share them you have to see them. I curated my social media feeds to have more happy stuff and less of that horrific stuff. So that was one of the start actions curating my social media feeds. I started sharing delicious food instead of sharing horrific videos.

Speaker 2: 10:03

The C in the ABC is a commitment to this change and its self-accountability, but also it's part of why I share. I stopped being an angry vegan because you can bet, if I slip back into that little angry vegan just a little bit, people are definitely gonna call me on it, so it's just a form of accountability and commitment. So that's where I'm at now. It's the hardest lesson learned. Mum always used to say I can be a little bit of a slow learner and make it hard on myself in that regard. I guess the other thing is the way that I'm trying to be in the world is almost to honor her. It's not that angry, frustrated little vegan that I used to be, but it's more the leading with love and compassion, like she did.

Speaker 1: 10:54

Oh, what a great story. And I think that, again, like you say, even if you take the vegan portion out of it, I mean, that's your story, but this is so relatable for all of us and I think all that it takes is just a quick click, click on social media and reading the comment section of any post. I mean, I've been just very aware lately of the ridiculous things on a very innocent video.

Speaker 1: 11:20

Someone will post and yes, there's still someone that's gonna complain and have a problem with it and be opposing to it. There's always gonna be somebody opposing everything. There's too many people on the planet, not two, right?

Speaker 1: 11:34

We're not all gonna get along on any one topic ever probably and that's just the way that it is. But I think that your example of leading with love is gonna lead to a more peaceful and centered life for you. But then that's also gonna make you more open and approachable and people wanna be around your energy more and then they might even see oh look, she's so amazing and she's vegan. I wonder what that's all about. I'll just ask her, because she's so loving and kind and kind of that you'll get more flies with honey than vinegar kind of a situation, too, right?

Speaker 1: 12:10

So not to use love as a form of manipulation, but it's just something that could happen as a byproduct of being a more loving person. So I love that story. I love that you. It's just another good example again of energy flows where attention goes. What kind of life do you want? Do you wanna live a life where you're having to be angry all the time, or do you wanna live this life of peace? I think that's so great. I also like, side note, that you mentioned curating your Facebook feed or your social media feeds, because I've mentioned this before. I do this In fact, I just did it again recently because we can absolutely do that and I think a lot of people don't. You don't think about it. You just hop on Facebook or whatever and you just scroll and you see whatever they give you. But you are in control of that a lot more than you think.

Speaker 2: 13:02

I'm curious what are some?

Speaker 1: 13:03

of your favorite things that you've to try and work more into your feeds.

Speaker 2: 13:10

Oh, so the animal sanctuaries, like the good news stories, you know there are some amazing animal sanctuaries out there and they often go live at feeding time and whatever it may be, and it's just really sweet, innocent content. A lot of the food creators that they've probably been where I was the angry vegan phase and now they're really super positive and upbeat and calming and whatever you need. I want more of their recipes in my feeds. So sweet animals and deliciousness. That's basically it. I've curated out a lot of the fitness people that I used to follow early fitness days. Yeah, I think for our listeners, just ask yourself how you feel after you've been spending time on this platform and you don't wanna feel exhausted and frustrated and angry.

Speaker 1: 14:00

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I will say that my Instagram I use only for business. So there's there's maybe like five people that I follow on there like socially, just because when I first started Instagram, like way back when Instagram first was created, I started because I didn't know what I was doing. But ever since then I use it just for business. So that means I only follow like other businesses or things that are kind of like minded. So it's very like inspirational. When I hop onto Instagram in particular, I don't I don't get anyone complaining about this or that or it's all you know motivational quotes or inspirational stories or just tips or advice. So my Instagram is just, by design, very, very positive and uplifting. Facebook took a little more work because I use that socially, but mine's full of beaches, beautiful, lots of beaches. I don't know if any of our Australian beaches, but now that I'm saying this out loud next to my phone, I'm sure that'll be on there the next time 100% yeah, great.

Speaker 1: 15:06

So all this talk with mindset, which I absolutely love you have another topic that you you discussed quite a bit, and that is aligning your values with your health goals and eliminating decision making. I would love to hear everything you have to say about this.

Speaker 2: 15:25

Amazing. This is my first step go to. For so many things, I think, whether we've got a health goal, a business goal, whatever it might be, we really want to just like dive into that action taking, which is amazing. However, there's a lot of foundational work you can do prior to that that will set the foundation for your success to come. And aligning, first defining and then aligning your values with your goal at a key.

Speaker 2: 15:52

So for our listeners, who might not yet have, I guess, elicited their values, values are those emotional states that you seek out. So for me, their their freedom, integrity, passion. Think of where you spend your time and energy and money. For a lot of people, that might be love for family. Anyway, those are your values.

Speaker 2: 16:15

The importance of aligning them with your goal is, if they're not, it's going to be really hard to take the actions that you need to take to achieve your goal. So probably easiest if I give you an example. Let's say my number one top value is family, and I have a goal that needs me to get to the gym four days a week. If I see that as in conflict that action I need to take to achieve that goal, if that is in conflict of my value of family, if I see it as meaning that it's less time with my family. It's going to be a constant battle. I'm going to be constantly fighting myself to get myself to the gym because I'm like, oh, I could cuddle in bed with the kids, the cats, whoever it is, and so that's a constant battle. You don't need to change your goal or your value, you just need to change the way you see it. So perhaps and it needs to be in your own words perhaps you could see, you could envisage the way that you're going to be when you're fit and strong and healthy and you have all the energy in the world to play with your kids and spend time with your family, and you're an amazing role model for them.

Speaker 2: 17:24

And in that way the value is aligned and, as I said, the decision making process just becomes so much simpler. You know, for me as a personal trainer, I always kind of had the idea that to have integrity, I needed to look the part. I still believe that, and so I don't decide whether I go to the gym or not. I decided early days that going to the gym was a necessity, and then, each day, when it's time to go to the gym. I don't have to think, do I don't I? I just think, yep, aligned with my goals. I'm going to do that and I save so much energy that way.

Speaker 1: 18:00

Oh, that's great, and I think that's a missing step that we don't. We probably don't want to take the time to do, but if you don't take the time to do it, we get these ideas of you. Know, I'm going to lose 10 pounds, I'm going to start working out, I'm going to start doing this. We get really excited at the beginning.

Speaker 1: 18:17

We have all this motivation to go and do, which is great, and by all means, capitalize on that as much as you can. But if you don't take that time to look like what you're saying look at our way, are we aligned? Then you're going to hit roadblocks and you're just going to decide to turn around and not do it because it's going to be too hard 100%.

Speaker 2: 18:36

We all get that struggle straight time, like maybe the first two weeks with Chocoblock, full of motivation right, but struggle straight is going to hit. When it hits, you need to be super clear on your why. It needs to be loaded with massive emotional intensity and, as we just said, it needs to be aligned with your most important values and that's what you're going to fall back on to pull you through when you hit those tougher times that we all do.

Speaker 1: 19:04

Yeah, yeah, and I'm even going to throw this out there If you're someone that has some kind of a goal that you've been working towards now whether it's fitness, health, eating habits or financial, career, whatever your goal is if you are feeling like you're hitting that roadblock now, so stop now and see, do this exercise like Kate's explaining here. Just sit down with a notebook and just right at the top of the notebook, why am I? What's the problem? Why am I hitting a roadblock? What is the roadblock? How do I feel about this? And then see if you can start to see what kind of rises to the surface here in terms of your values, is it? Well, I thought I was going to go to work, go work out every day, but I'm away from my kids and that makes me feel guilty for not being with my kids. Okay, now you know you can't fix it, you can't tell you know what the problem is, right?

Speaker 2: 19:56

Yeah, you can reframe how you think of it, though, like I remember, I always used to get sad as a little kid when I heard ambulances. I was like, oh my God, scary ambulances. And my mom, you know she said, katie, someone's going to be really happy to hear that siren, as I was when you were a baby and nearly choked on your own vomit and I was like, you're so bright, I hear the siren, someone else is going to hear it and they're going to be so relieved that help is coming. And that was an instant reframe. The situation didn't change, but the way I looked at it changed to a much more enjoyable way to look at it.

Speaker 1: 20:31

Yeah, yeah, absolutely, um, probably. Oh gosh, I think this is true and I hate it at the same time. Like anything can be reframed. Like even you know the person you hate the most, the most crazy. You can reframe and figure out how, how you can actually handle being around that person. It's not fun.

Speaker 2: 20:52

You can do that. You can also use them as an anti mentor. So mentors are amazing. They're the person you aspire to be. The anti mentor is the person you don't aspire to be. So there are value as well, right, Just less less time spent with them is probably better.

Speaker 1: 21:09

Yeah, yes, love that, love the anti mentor. There we go, yes. So now I have another question, because I know this is something that you speak on, but this is chosen for personal reasons. So let's talk about becoming a morning person, because that's something for me that has not always been. It's never been easy. It's never been easy in the past, but I am open to the idea that it could be easier in the future, perhaps with some reframing, but I feel like it's going to take slightly more than just reframing for me. So what have you got?

Speaker 2: 21:51

Amazing. Well, I will say, even though I'm very much a morning person. Now, in my first flat as an 18, 19 year old, which was not so affectionately known as the cesspit, I was very much not a morning person. I'd roll out of bed at 11 am every day. So we can change, mindi. There is hope for you. It might be easier for some than what it is for others. However, first of all, a bit of tough love, I would say stop making excuses. So whatever is holding you back, how you are spending your time in the evening, when you're staying up too late, which makes it harder to become a morning person is that more important than the way that life is going to be and the things you're going to achieve, if you could get up fresh and full of energy and well rested to power into your day every single day? So the stop making excuses genuinely is first step. Second step you can't get up earlier unless you go to bed earlier. So I always suggest to my clients think of the ideal time that you want to get up, whatever it is, say 6 am the ideal best you time and then track back from there how many hours sleep you need 7 or 8, whatever it is, that is the time that you need to go to bed and start small. Don't aim to go to bed two hours earlier and get up two hours earlier. Start just 15 or 30 minutes and progress as you feel able. The third step is to design a morning routine, so something that you look forward to, something really good. I recommend just three to five steps.

Speaker 2: 23:23

You know, for me, I'm trying to inject more fun into my life. I can tend to be a little bit of a workaholic. So step one is to play with the cats. There are two cats in the house and just play with the cats, don't rush it. They're so excited to start the day. We could model that a little bit more.

Speaker 2: 23:38

So I get up at 4 am by choice. I play with the cats. Number two is meditate. So whatever it is for you, it might be journaling, whatever it is kind of calm and sets the tone for the day for you. Number three is I start with my two most important or my most important tasks. I plan that a night before. Super important to be effective in your morning is to plan it at a day before. The number of tasks, I order priority and I also set like a time block next to them as well. So I walk and work in body 500 bucks. The last step for me is to walk the gym along the river. I'm going to be listening to a podcast, probably as well. So the main thing is something that you look forward to. These are all nice things in my day. The way you start the day is pretty much the way you mean to continue. So you definitely don't want to start it by hitting snooze and telling your body now we don't want to get up, let's go back to bed.

Speaker 1: 24:37

Yeah, that's exactly how I start my day every single day. I snooze for a ridiculous amount of time and I'm even one of those like, once it hits a certain time it's like, okay, do I have to shower this morning? Can I shower later? Can I get an extra 10 minutes now? What do I have going on in my schedule this morning? Can I move some things so that I can sleep? Can I go back to bed after the kids are gone? Like it's ridiculous.

Speaker 2: 25:13

And actually that's another really good point. We're not all going to have like. There are seasons in your life, right, and depending on how old your kids are, you know you might not have the perfect season of sleep and the perfect morning routine. You're probably not going to. However, it is really worth thinking about what would be as ideal as you can get it right now and getting clarity on that, jotting it down. If it's there, at least you know what you're striving for. You're not going to hit it 100% of the time, but you're probably going to get closer to it and you're going to give yourself a much better chance of getting there from time to time.

Speaker 1: 25:52

Yeah, I think that's a really good point about if you're somebody like me. That's kind of a I get sucked into the all or nothing, and I know a lot of people are like this. So if I can't do it perfectly well, then I just won't do it at all. So in my head if I have this idea of what the perfect morning routine would look like for me, but I can't do that because, like you say, season of life, people with newborns or really small children like you're not in charge of your mornings at all. I mean, you might think you are and then they switch their sleep schedule. I'm a little bit older but I still have to get them up and get them ready for the day, and that's part of my morning routine is that which is not my ideal morning at all getting kids up and out the door. So I think that's an important point to just honor where you're at, the kind of the non-negotiables. Like I have to get my kids up. I mean they're not going to do it themselves.

Speaker 1: 26:46

I need to help get them out the door, so, even though that's not part of my morning routine, except that, but how can I make this as close to my ideal morning as possible?

Speaker 2: 26:58

I think that's a really good point. Lower the bar to raise your chance of success right. Make it just as easy as what is a simple step forward for you, knowing that once you've got that nailed, you can upgrade it right. We don't need perfection from the get-go In fact, that's hardly ever the case right, it's just about you know you're going to take this morning routine for a spin, you know, try it out and you're going to upgrade it when you feel ready.

Speaker 1: 27:23

Yeah, we don't need perfection from the get-go. Kate just said it. I want everybody to hear that again, and that's true. That's true if you're like me and just not great at mornings yet. Yeah, I say yeah because we can make it through, yeah, good.

Speaker 1: 27:39

Or maybe you're, you know, struggling to get to the gym five days a week, or whatever your goal is. You don't have to be perfect yet, but just taking every, every time you do it as a win, and then stopping after a little bit and assessing okay, why is this not going better? And maybe it's because you need to do some reframing. So there we just came full circle.

Speaker 2: 28:01

And the really important hidden benefit with that approach right there is you are starting to believe that I'm the person that does this. So even if you get up 15 minutes earlier, or even if you go to the gym three days a week or do just a 15 minute workout, you start to believe that I am the type of person that does this workout, rather than I am the type of person that always skips my workout. What you focus on is expand. So if you're believing I'm terrible at morning routines or I hate the gym I never get to the gym you're going to be reinforcing that. So just really start. So easy it's almost hard to miss.

Speaker 1: 28:41

Yeah, yeah, that's so important. I'm glad you mentioned that. Your sense of identity, who you think you are, is so important, and that's really tricky to navigate at the beginning of a new goal, I think. So let's say that you're someone that's never worked out a day in your life and you're now suddenly saying I'm a person that works out. That's just part of who I am. I work out every day. Part of you is going to go no, you don't. At the beginning or at the uncomfortable times, a loud part of you is going to say no, you don't. You don't know how to do this. Look at your past Like you've never worked out your 20 pounds over. What are you talking about? Look at your bank account you don't know how to save money. What are you talking about? All of those things?

Speaker 2: 29:26

You consciously reframe them, even though it seems a little bit manufactured, until it doesn't feel so manufactured, until it becomes, you know, much more natural, simple and sustainable. And we've all been there. I can remember being there with fitness. I was there with judgment. As a young person, I was really judgmental, and judgment, like many things, is reflected back at you. So the more you put out into the world, the more you receive back not fun, and so I consciously made an effort to reframe. Every time I made a judgment, I would think of a more compassionate choice, and then eventually it didn't take that long actually, but eventually that became more natural and wow, again we're back to a more effective and fun way to live.

Speaker 1: 30:14

Yeah, yes, absolutely. I have a oh. I guess I assign in my office here. It's large, otherwise I just hold it up for you. But I hand wrote it myself.

Speaker 1: 30:26

It came to me during a breath work session, of all things. I just kept seeing it over and over again and it was three statements. One was I can, and the second was I will and the third was I am. Sometimes it's too hard to say I am, sometimes like we say, it feels like a lie, but I could think well, I can. But you don't want to get stuck and I can for too long, because that pushes things off into the future. Well, I can become a person that does XYZ. Then you, as quickly as you can, shift into the I will stage. I will, I will do this. But again, that's still putting it into the future. But that helps propel you into the I am, where you can actually embody it and believe it. But it ain't easy. It takes conscious effort, but we can get there. So I too can become a morning person. Is this what you're saying, kate?

Speaker 2: 31:21

You can indeed. I have 100% faith in you for sure.

Speaker 1: 31:26

Awesome. Well, I feel like I have a few more. I don't know. Every time I talk to somebody, I get a little bit more, a little nuance of something where. Ok, if I try this. So I've got some more tools now in my toolbox. We'll see how it goes here. Kate, I have just one more question for you, and that question is my question of the month. Actually, I think it's been two months now, but it's a good question, and I ask everyone this question. I love to hear the answers. What's one thing that you wish everyone on the planet would do in regards to their own well-being?

Speaker 2: 32:04

I love this question. I would say I wish everyone on the planet would treat your body like you're on a team. You're on the same team and all you want for it is the very best. And so I mean that in relation to your self-care, your self-talk, in relation to your exercise, which can be precious to me time rather than punishment. In relation to your nutrition, which can be about abundance, never about restriction. So, again, it's a supportive, effective, loving relationship with your body and with you, which might sound a little bit weird, but I'm rolling with it, Rather than a fight or a struggle or a restriction. That's what I wish for everyone.

Speaker 1: 32:56

Oh, I love that, and it's kind of like your opening story talking about being an angry vegan. When we put up those fights and those restrictions and those barriers, that puts a lot of tension in our lives that we've created. But when you can approach it more with love, you just you're going to feel better on the inside and the out. So I love that idea.

Speaker 1: 33:19

Our physical bodies some people like to be super spiritual and, oh, the physical doesn't matter. Well, but it does, though it all matters. We are spiritual. I think we're spiritual beings having a human experience. But we're having a human experience in this body that you're in right now. So how you take care of that body really is going to affect how you show up in the world in every single possible way. So the sooner you can get to a part where you can love and accept that body and you can work with that body, it's going to pay you back and you're going to be able it'll just become second nature and you'll be able to do all these other wonderful things out in the world that you came here to do. So I love, love that, that approach.

Speaker 2: 34:05

That's so well said. Whatever you care most about in the world it might not be health and fitness, it probably isn't and fair enough to. However, whatever you care most about, your body will help you get there and stay there more efficiently and effectively and joyfully. So well said.

Speaker 1: 34:21

Yes, oh, absolutely Love that. Well, kate, thank you so much for being on here today. I have just taken away so many little nuggets of wisdom from you, and I'm wondering if people are interested in learning more about you, where can they find you?

Speaker 2: 34:37

Thank you, mindy, it's been so much fun. I've had a blast. The best place to connect with me is strongbodygreenplanetcom. That's got links to my health application website, to the Planet Positive Journal that I wrote last year. So, yep, strongbodygreenplanetcom is everything me.

Speaker 1: 34:59

Awesome, very good, and they can listen to healthification on your podcast. I'm guessing pretty much wherever we listen to podcasts will we find you there.

Speaker 2: 35:09

Absolutely. It is all over the place Very good, Cool.

Speaker 1: 35:12

Well, thank you again, Kate, for being on the show today my huge pleasure, and everybody else. I hope you gained as many nuggets of wisdom as I did. If you did, don't hesitate to reach out to Kate or I. Let us know what your takeaways were. Or if you're going to try and become a morning person with me. Oh my gosh, I need a buddy Like for real. If you want to become a morning person with me, let's meet up here and see if we can figure it out. But I hope that, wherever you're at today, I hope you're having a fantastic day and I will catch you on the next one. That's it for today, friends.