Unlocking the Mysteries of Past Life Regression Therapy with Tracey Harley

Do you ever wonder if your lingering emotional or physical pain is tied to a distant past life? Join us on "Balm to the Soul" as we welcome back regression therapist Tracey Harley to unravel the mysteries of past life regression therapy. Tracey dispels common fears, addressing concerns about uncovering unpleasant past lives or discovering we've been someone we wouldn't be proud of today. She offers eye-opening insights into how our souls take on various roles and genders, driven by the lessons we need to learn. Imagine realizing that the people in your current life have shared past lives with you, playing different roles that shine a light on your present-day relationships.

Tracey and I dive into the intriguing process of past life regression sessions, revealing that most of us won’t see vivid images but will sense or know intricate details, much like visualizing scenes from a book. We explore how individuals embody characters from their past lives, experiencing physical sensations and uncovering pivotal life events tied to unresolved emotions, such as anger. I share personal stories, illustrating how these vivid inner visions have influenced my writing and left a lasting impact on my memory bank.

Finally, we uncover the therapeutic benefits of revisiting past lives to address unresolved layers affecting our current existence. Tracey emphasizes that our subconscious will only reveal what we're ready to handle, highlighting the transformational phase that helps integrate lessons and achieve resolution. We discuss how physical traumas linked to past lives can manifest as unexplained pain in the present. Wrapping up, we express heartfelt gratitude to Tracey for her profound insights and for writing the foreword for my new book, "The Red Magus," which delves deeper into these spiritual themes. Don't miss this chance to broaden your understanding of past life regression and its powerful impact on healing.

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Chapters

• 2:30 Past Life Regression Therapy Explained
• 16:05 Exploring Past Lives Through Memories
• 23:11 Transformation and Healing in Past Lives
• 32:11 Healing and Understanding Past Lives
• 42:29 Spiritual Themes in the Red Mages

Transcript

Speaker 1: 2:30

so welcome everybody to another episode of barn, to the soul and today I have a familiar face or familiar voice, and that is tracy harley. So welcome, tracy. Thank you for coming back onto barn, to the soul thank you, natasha.

Speaker 2: 2:48

It's lovely to be here and thank you for asking me back again for another chat.

Speaker 1: 2:52

It's a pleasure. So what I thought we would talk about today, Tracy, is past life regression therapy, because Tracy is a regression therapist and also because I have my first novel coming out in the next couple of months and the main theme of that is past life regression. So I thought we would talk about that and sort of set the scene for people before the book the Red Magus comes out with the Unbound Press in the next couple of months. So who better to talk about past life regression with than Tracy, who wrote the foreword for the book Thank you very much. Who I have known for how long? 20 years, something like that.

Speaker 2: 3:43

Getting on for 20 years.

Speaker 1: 3:45

Yeah, we did our past life regression training together didn't we yeah, certainly.

Speaker 2: 3:52

So we have had a lot of experiences with past life regression so.

Speaker 1: 3:56

I thought it'd be really lovely just to have a chat because I still get asked things that are common fears for people. Um, but you tell me when? What are common fears for people should they go for a session, you know, of past life regression therapy?

Speaker 2: 4:12

yeah, that's a really good question, because everyone, even people who really, really want to have a past life session and often one of the most um, there are a few common fears. One of them is um, you know what if I go somewhere horrible, or what if I was someone horrible in a past life? Um, that's, you know, quite a common one. And um, the interesting thing is, you know, we've all been all types of people. Uh, we've all perhaps been someone not so pleasant and then, in another lifetime, we've wanted to see the opposite side of that and been on the opposite side. So we would call it a perpetrator life, when we were being not so pleasant to someone, and then the opposite, when we would be the victim, if you like.

Speaker 1: 5:08

Yeah, and I get asked, so you can, you can be a different sex in part. I get asked that all the time so.

Speaker 2: 5:17

I think and that, I think, really surprises people that you know we're not. We think because we're a woman or a man in this life. We've always been a woman, female or male, but we haven't we've taken, you know, either gender dependent on the lessons we wanted to learn. And that's the thing about, you know, visiting our past lives it's understanding those lessons that we've been learning through these many lives. That's what our lives are about.

Speaker 1: 5:50

Yeah, and the body is just the vehicle for our soul energy. When we talk about, like past life, regression and the lessons you'll learn, we're talking about energetically, aren't we that we carry that forward?

Speaker 2: 6:02

yeah, yeah, so the soul itself has no gender. It it's um just an energy, if you like, and sometimes we're more inclined towards one gender. It would have. You know, some people seem to have lives more, perhaps, as females or males, but yeah, there is no sort of you're once a female, always a female, and that's really interesting and that can be very interesting for um, for clients to experience the life? Um of another gender and um, there was a client I had and he was male and he had the life of a female um in a past life, giving birth and going through the birthing process, and he was like, oh my god, that was amazing. I he was almost speechless because, you know, as a man in this life he's never going to experience childbirth, but going through a past life experience as a woman, so that kind of really blew his mind. I can't remember what all the lessons were, but for him that was a a really key moment yeah, and that really it.

Speaker 1: 7:19

That that sort of is a brilliant way of describing how your your perceptions about things shift.

Speaker 2: 7:25

Yeah, once you've had that, yeah experience yeah, I mean it can really change your understanding of where you are now in your current life and how you feel about things, how you experience your understanding of the world and often what people also quite surprised by.

Speaker 2: 7:46

We're. Often in past lives we're with the same souls that we're in our current life with, yeah, in a different relationship. So your husband now might be your father in a past life. Or, yeah, I know, in a past life I was the mother of my father in my current life. So we were mother and son in a past life and father in this life and this life we were finishing off a lesson from that life, um. So people are often quite interested and surprised by that and that things, lessons, experiences, um, often, you know, strong emotions from those past lives, especially if we haven't quite resolved them in that past life, get carried forward. You know, for the reason we choose to um, bring them into this life to complete them in a in a different perhaps relationship, in a different scenario, but it's about a completion of, of a lesson or a learning.

Speaker 1: 8:50

So that's so my, my son, I know was in my commanding officer in another lifetime, explains a lot. Grace, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2: 9:01

Yeah it does. It's funny, isn't it because oh yeah, I get it. Now I understand how the relationship, because our soul still remembers those relationships and it's almost like on a well, it's on a subconscious level that's still acting out those relationships and it doesn't quite fit with our relationship now no when we know about what that was in the past life, it makes complete sense and we can kind of then accept and okay, this is why this is happening. Right, I don't need to fight against it, I can just go yeah, yeah, better understanding.

Speaker 1: 9:39

And when you're in this session and somebody you know, the therapist, says just connect to that energy, does it feel familiar? That's that's an amazing feeling because you can suddenly think oh, of course you know, yeah, yeah, I can feel that it feels, and just that experience of feeling somebody's energy in that way, it's very interesting as well.

Speaker 2: 10:57

It is yeah, and it's. It's funny, isn't it, how, um most people don't go through their daily life connecting to other people's energy in the way that we do when we work in past life, where we very much use the feelings and connecting in and and how does that energy feel? And I think, once they start, it's almost like it kickstarts something in someone. So the from the part going through the past life experience, it's almost. It gives them, it gives their brain, um new pathways of how to experience in the current life.

Speaker 2: 11:35

So they start experiencing their current life differently? Yeah, because of they've. By going through it in past life, they've learned how to do it now. Um, they always could have done it, but you know the the current lives we lead are busy and we don't always connect in, so so well, so you can be really, and that's something that's a real theme that I talk about in the book or include in the book.

Speaker 1: 12:01

You know the main character through going to past life regression therapy session changes she changes. She changes the way she sees herself, she changes the way that she sees others. You know, and that is you know. Once you've been even one session, I think yeah, um changes, you don't you?

Speaker 2: 12:22

certainly, yeah, yeah, if. If everybody only ever had one session, it would completely change their perception of themselves, the world, other people and how we interact with other people.

Speaker 1: 12:37

And what we're doing here Exactly, yeah.

Speaker 2: 12:40

We're not just here to get up, have breakfast, go to work, come home, watch telly, go to bed.

Speaker 1: 12:45

You know, it's yeah, it really does open up people's perceptions and I find sometimes with clients you know they have the session and they're very quiet afterwards and then they go away and it's almost like they have to.

Speaker 1: 12:59

You know, like my last client said to me, that was really strange but amazing, but I can't quite get my head around it. And so she had to go away and just sit with it and work, process it. Basically Because I think it can be a bit of a shock to the system if you're shifting your beliefs, your perceptions. You know it can be a bit like ooh you know, rabbit in the headlights for a little while.

Speaker 2: 13:24

And it fascinates me how you know however many clients you see there are no two are ever the same. They all have a similar theme. So they might, all you know, some might have gone back to being Indians or to the Wild West or, you know, to medieval times. So you'll have you know patterns of time that people go back to all time. So you'll have you know patterns of time that people go back to. But their experience is, like everyone here now, so unique to them. And often, you know some of the sessions I've had where clients, not a lot seems to happen. They seem quite, you know, non-eventful and, yeah, they meet characters from current life and get an understanding, but there's no big major thing happening and they'll come out of the session and you'll think, well, that was, you know, okay, but nothing, you know, no life moving, and oh my god, that was just so amazing. That's going to change my life completely. So it's interesting.

Speaker 1: 14:29

From our perception things don't seem to be happening necessarily, that are seismic, but for the client they can be life-changing yeah, absolutely, and often a client who doesn't say much is not actually verbalizing everything that they are sensing, knowing, feeling in a session or even seeing, although that's not actually verbalizing everything that they are sensing, knowing, feeling in a session or even seeing, although that's not the common way, but, um, they're sort of absorbing all of this information and verbally it's really quite hard to articulate sometimes. So they're quiet and you think nothing much is happening, but actually a huge amount is flooding into their understanding.

Speaker 2: 15:12

Yeah, yeah and it's yeah. I mean we obviously we've experienced many of our own past lives and it is the. The information you get is so huge as the client that you cannot possibly express it all. And you know, after the session, fresh awareness comes to people. They'll suddenly get aha moments and they might even in their dreams, get more of the past life story and more awareness of why things happened and more healing. So it's like isn't just in that two hours they're with you as a client, you know it carries on, which, uh, is is. It's like once they've made that link, it's like plugging into something once they've plugged in, that's it. They've always got that link then yeah, and it forever changes them.

Speaker 1: 16:05

Let's talk briefly about how people do see an inverted commas session um because it's not. I always say to people you know beforehand, it's not like a big screen on a wall and you're watching a film. It doesn't work like that, does it?

Speaker 2: 16:23

no, I mean some people, very few people see things as in with their eyes really really clearly. Um, a lot of the majority of people it's often just a sense or a knowing um clients will hear, maybe smell, but it's. I often describe it as you know, when I read a novel, in my head somewhere I get this inner image of whatever I'm reading about and I could describe to you what this image looks like. So I never liked seeing a film after I've read the book because the film never matches what I've seen in my own head and a lot of people can understand that experience. Or, you know, even if we closed, imagine it in our. We've got this inner vision of it. That's usually how the majority of people will experience um a past life, this kind of inner vision of it um, I'm just knowing at times, if you ask a question that's sort of like well, are you married?

Speaker 1: 17:35

and they just know, they know it just comes to them.

Speaker 2: 17:38

So it's sort of and all these sort of threads different ways that they weave together the information yeah, it's, and you know, it's when, when we first take someone into a past life, we do something which is embodying them, so getting them to really feel their bodies, experience their bodies and experience how the clothes if they're wearing clothes feel. And again, people just know and you'll say, you know, they might say I've got trousers on. Just tell me about those trousers. Oh, they feel really rough, a bit like a sack, and you know, often they'll be touching their own legs and they might just be wearing normal jeans or something, or joggers or whatever, or there's a blanket over them, but it's like they do just know instantly and they'll know things that as soon as you ask they're aware of them.

Speaker 1: 18:34

So yeah, I remember when I was a client in a session when we were training, and I still remember it now and we will come back to that because what we experience becomes like a real memory, doesn't it? Yeah, but, and I remember that I had, I was a fighter pilot and I was crashed, but I was in my cockpit.

Speaker 2: 19:02

I was crashed, but I was in my cockpit and I remember vividly it started because I felt like I, my legs were together, stretched out, but I couldn't move them.

Speaker 1: 19:08

So we started exploring that. So it was just a sense that I had well, I can't move my legs. Well, I could move my legs, you know, in in that life, but in in what I was experiencing.

Speaker 1: 19:21

I knew my legs were in this confined space and we then worked on that to get you know and carried on, and and I remember that vividly, so it's really you can start just from the position that you're in, or you know, I can feel a breeze on my face because you're outside, so and then you just build, yeah, on that, don't you?

Speaker 2: 19:45

yeah, and the more you you know someone embodies into that character, the more information they'll get.

Speaker 2: 19:51

And it is it's like you're opening a floodgate yeah and and you know part of when we move through a past life. You know we obviously don't go to the. Every event in the whole of a past life would be there forever. So we go to what we call the significant events and they're often linked to a theme. So you know, if a client has come to you with because they're carrying lots of anger, for example, um, and we go back to the source of it in a past life, we'll follow that theme, that thread of anger, and we'll go to the significant events linked to that.

Speaker 1: 20:30

Yes.

Speaker 2: 20:31

And it's interesting how you know you'll finish exploring one scene check. There's nothing else of any importance before we move and we give a really simple command on the count of three, we're going to move to the next significant event. And people just move and it's like they and you know beforehand. I'll say you know, you'll just know where to go, I'll be guiding you, don't overthink it, just go with what comes up. But it is, and sometimes some clients almost as though they do jump to the next and some will start to move there before you even say it. It's really interesting when the subconscious, once we connect in, it's like okay, all this information is here, ready to come up now.

Speaker 2: 21:18

It's been okay. All this information is here, ready to come up now, you know it's been waiting.

Speaker 1: 21:20

Yeah, so when I was it's interesting what you were saying before about seeing and you read a book and you that's how I wrote my book I had scenes in my head so I had a very English actress as Cassie and I could see it as if it was a TV program, as if it was, and that's how I wrote the story. So that's quite. I don't know if that's a, if that's because I've done so many sessions, or that that is how it it worked out, I don't know. But then you, because you've not read the full book, have you? No?

Speaker 1: 21:55

So it's quite interesting that you talk about threads and anger, because that's all in it as well. And taking people to the next significant event, that's in it as well. So you know, it really is my experiences of all of this training and um, you know, um sessions that I've had myself. But I wanted to just talk about also um the memory of it, so like the memory of that cockpit. For me that was probably what eight, nine years ago, and that is like I can just go go back there and I think once you've seen something in the past life, it really does. It's part of your memory bank, isn't it? It's not something that you like. A film. You might see it and forget it and forget what happened. It becomes a memory. It's not that it becomes a memory, but you remember it.

Speaker 2: 22:52

It's yeah, and that it's very interesting because, you know, all of these memories are stored in our subconscious, our higher mind. They're stored somewhere, all of our soul memories and, yeah, once we reconnect to them we can just they're there. We never forget them. And the interesting thing is and and you know, you'll know this as a therapist, having experienced being a client and working with our own past lives remain really vivid in our memories.

Speaker 2: 23:25

Other people's past lives. You know I'll have clients come back to me after a few years and say, do you remember that past life? And I'm like no, within within a few days, unless there's a few odd fragments will remain if they were really amazing or for whatever reason. But generally you don't remember anyone else's. You know you'd go mad trying to remember everyone else's past life but your own.

Speaker 2: 23:52

And the interesting thing is, you know I've had clients where we've worked on a thread in a past life and got all the healing and understanding of that, and they might come back another time and say, oh there's, I keep seeing that past life again or I just feel there's something else, and you can just go back to it again and work on a different aspect, because there may have been. You know we've all. In any life we have multiple layers and it's generally the generally the layers that we didn't get resolution or completion with at the end of either during the past life or at the end of the past life. They're the ones that often we they. They get triggered in our current life, that come back again, that we bug you that you have to go for a session but you don't know why.

Speaker 1: 24:45

They're coming up to sort of be clear, don't they?

Speaker 2: 24:48

they are. It's okay and on a level you know we have before we came into our current life, we've agreed that we want to finish that lesson, we want to work on that one and clear it. So you know, we've got that within our soul memory ready and at some point in our current life it will go tap, tap, tap. Come on time to do this now, bring someone into our life and that's often it. It's often, you know, another person will trigger something in us um to to do that work. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 25:23

I remember very clearly doing a session again when I was applying, and, um, I remember an image of all these files, literally like in a filing cabinet, and it was like, well, which one are we going to choose? And then they chose one, and that was. I can't remember the session, but I can remember that, yeah, we're picking a file. So the subconscious really does okay, what do we need to work on next? Let's pick something. Let's pick a past life that they need to work on, that they need to see again, yeah, etc and that it's interesting.

Speaker 2: 26:03

Yeah, you say that because you know some people come just because they're interested in a past life to see what they were. They don't think they've got anything particular to work on and then we had anything.

Speaker 1: 26:16

20 years ago, tr Tracy neither did I.

Speaker 2: 26:19

We all think we're sorted until we start work. Little do we know um. So then you can just sort of you know, say, okay, we can just go to a past life that your higher mind selects, or one relevant for you today maybe that's what I always are.

Speaker 1: 26:38

Yeah, the files maybe that's what I put out there.

Speaker 2: 26:40

Yeah, or you know, if a client has a very specific thing they want to work on. We have a very specific, clear intention. We want to go to the source of your fear or anger or whatever in our past life.

Speaker 1: 26:56

We can go there and I think it's important to say that the subconscious is hugely protective. The subconscious will not drop you into a scenario that you can't cope with and that your fear is just too much to handle. Yeah, it will. If that's something that you're dealing with, it will drip feed the information, won't it over many sessions?

Speaker 2: 27:17

just it knows what you can, yeah and I always say to clients you know you will only go to something you're ready to deal with, and often it is we're doing layers, like peeling back an onion, until we get to that's often a fear of clients, isn't it?

Speaker 1: 27:36

I'm to see something that I can't cope with. That's just sleepless nights and hikes out and if we do the work properly and we resolve through it and you know we work through it that's not how you should feel. If you feel like that, you need to come back and keep at it and keep resolving.

Speaker 2: 27:56

And that's you know. That's a really important part. Yes, we visit past life to get all of this information and, yes, we might visit some traumatic events. But the part we do after you know, before, following on from exploring the past life, the transformation, and that's the important part, which means people aren't then revisiting it, left with trauma, they can go, they can remember it, but they don't have any of the traumatic experience.

Speaker 1: 28:25

Or they can see, it, can't they, but not have that.

Speaker 2: 28:28

So you know, in that transformation where we're meeting characters, we're understanding why things happen, we're getting a resolution around that things happened. We're getting a resolution around that sometimes people need to be empowered, be able to speak up in a way they couldn't before, and things like that really shift and people bring those empowerments back into current life and it shifts how they are in current life and it's that transformation at the end, that completion, that healing, full understanding. That's then when you've sort of done the whole package and people get the lessons from the life but they're empowered by it, move forward from it and then are no longer carrying all of what it should feel good, it should feel peaceful, it should feel satisfying.

Speaker 1: 29:16

You know you don't come away having seen something like that. You know if there's been a trauma, if you've done work in that session, I shouldn't it will be yeah, like that, yeah. And we should also point out that we do take people past the death point. Yes, because I did have a client once afterwards who said I I didn't realise that I'd see myself dying. I was like, okay, not something I'd mentioned, but I just thought that was obvious.

Speaker 1: 29:46

So now I do we take people through that death point but that doesn't mean you have to feel all of it or have the we. Just we like them to see the soul pass, don't we? And to know what memories do we men, what? What memories do we have? What thoughts do we have?

Speaker 2: 30:03

yeah, and that's you know, the death point can be a really important part and I always think it has had sort of two purposes for us as therapists. We're gathering the thoughts and emotions that that they die with that past life, because they're often the things they're carrying on that haven't been resolved. We know that exactly that gives us a clue for some more stuff we need to do in transformation. And also we check if they take all of their soul energy.

Speaker 2: 30:34

Because, often parts of our soul energy have been left behind in past lives and they're a soul fragment. So again it's about often during transformation those soul fragments can release. If not, we can do that at the end with healing and then rejoin them so the soul becomes more whole. It's like soul retrieval, yeah, but also it's powerful that soul it is. It's like soul retrieval, yeah but also powerful that it is um.

Speaker 2: 31:00

I think going through the death point often alleviates people's fear of death from the current life yeah, absolutely that's yeah, I just went through yeah yeah, and you know, and if it is a painful death, yes, we've got techniques so that you can see yourself going through the death point, but you don't feel everything you felt no, it doesn't in any way re-traumatize people at all.

Speaker 1: 31:27

It's quite the opposite, actually. It gives you a lot of peace.

Speaker 1: 31:31

It alleviates a lot of anxiety once you've experienced that yeah, so I wanted to just also talk about muscle memory. A link isn't there between what we experienced in a past life, and maybe the energy that we brought with us into this current life and our physical muscles in this lifetime can have memory as well? Now, how that happens I do not know, but that's yes, that's the process, isn't it? So yes, and I've seen this, so again, a particular life I remember clearly. I got into the position, physically on the bed, on the floor I think I was on a bed on a couch, actually. I got into the position at which I died and I actually saw in my mind's eye all of this energy release. It was quite, and this energy had a texture to it was fascinating, and it was almost as if just getting into the right position released all of that energy, that sort of negative energy that I was holding from that, yeah, and that fascinates me. That's so interesting.

Speaker 2: 32:49

I mean the, the. It's interesting because, very briefly, the way the brain works when we go through a trauma there'll be an emotional aspect to it and if there's a physical aspect there'll be a physical aspect and they get stored in different parts of the brain. So the emotional gets stored in one part of the brain and any physical trauma gets stored in a different part. So often if people have things like talking therapies, they can talk about a trauma and they'll talk and talk and talk, but it won't release from the body.

Speaker 1: 33:26

No.

Speaker 2: 33:26

It's still held in the body memory. Yes, the body no, it's still held in the body memory. Yes, and this is where you know sometimes you've got a client come to you, perhaps with a shoulder, and they're like you know, I've had x-rays, I've had MRI, I've had every. There's nothing wrong with my shoulder, physically, there is nothing wrong with my shoulder, but I have this terrible pain in my shoulder. I can't move it, it's frozen. People will often say words, things that then when you go back to it so they might say oh, it feels like I've been shot in my shoulder. And these are little clues. It's like the subconscious is giving them information.

Speaker 1: 34:06

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 34:07

So we use, we can use that physical pain for them to go back into past life, to the source of that, and it probably would be. They have been shot in the shoulder, perhaps in a war, and their body has held on to that memory and stored the energy there and created this physical pain.

Speaker 2: 34:30

Yeah stored the energy there and created this physical pain. Yeah, once we there are body therapy techniques to help release it to the, for the body to do things it couldn't do at the time, and that can go then completely. That's amazing. And I remember when it was, when we were training and I, about a month before we started their training, I got this terrible neuralgia in my head. You know, it was so painful. It felt like the skin had all been burned. I couldn't touch it, I couldn't lay on the side of my head and I remember sitting and one of our trainers said to me are you OK? I said I've got this terrible pain. Should I be a client first? And I was.

Speaker 2: 35:10

And what happened? I died in a burning building and a beam, a burning beam, fell on my head. Now, at the time this pain all started up, we had just moved house and my bed I was laying under an exposed beam. So it was almost like the exposed beam triggered the memory and my body knew I was coming, going to start my training, so the opportunity was going to be, and after the session, after the healing or the understanding, the pain went and I'd never have it again. And for me that was like wow, this really really works. You know, I couldn't deny I had experienced it. Yeah, so, and that was sort of a way of various things, the sleeping under the beam triggered something in me, um, and it all came up in time for that, for the training, for it to be healed.

Speaker 1: 36:08

So amazing, isn't it? Absolutely fascinating. And that's the thing. Things will come up before. If you've booked a session, things will start coming up. You might start feeling really unwell and that some people say I've got to cancel it. No, that's why your, your body, your subconscious, whatever it is, is telling you this is what you should do, and that's why we really need to listen to our intuition more, isn't it?

Speaker 2: 36:33

yeah, yeah to our intuition, to what we're feeling physically and emotionally, especially when it doesn't seem to match with how our lives are at any given time. You know, we might be having the most amazing time in our current life. Everything's going great, but there's just something in us that's kind of out of sync with it and that's kind of a clue that, okay, there's something here that's that's waiting and ready um, and I'd really, I'd really really encourage some people to just put your logical brain to one side, just experience it.

Speaker 1: 37:13

Okay, you can't explain it, you don't have to explain it, just experience it.

Speaker 2: 37:17

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 37:19

And you know, most people are blown away, aren't they about it?

Speaker 2: 37:23

Yeah, and I think the lovely thing is you don't actually have to have belief in past life for it to work. And you know, I had a client it was actually when I was doing my case studies and when she said she'd be a case study for me for my training. And when we went I went to her house to do the session she said, oh, I actually I don't believe in past lives. And I was a bit like, oh my God, what's going to happen here? I was a newbie. Oh my god, what's gonna happen here? I was a newbie, I didn't really know. You know, I'd just done one module of training and um, and we went I said, well, just go with whatever comes to you. And the lovely thing is, you know, our subconscious can bring us the information we need, whether it's a metaphor, as a story, a real past life. So we went through the experience and at the end she went well, that had to be real.

Speaker 2: 38:15

I couldn't make that up that's what I was like and that's that's. That's the thing I say to people you know maybe it is maybe it is your subconscious making it up.

Speaker 1: 38:24

You know what does it matter? If it works, if it clears the pain, if it's like you say, then the majority of them afterwards go. No, that's real.

Speaker 2: 38:34

Yeah, because of the emotions that you feel and exactly, yeah, and generally you know what comes up we would never make up for ourselves.

Speaker 1: 38:43

Yeah, and the feelings, the deep, emotional and often there's so many threads that just tie into the aspects of their life that you think there's no way on earth that I could have made up all those layers and you know we'd be exhausted, trying to do it.

Speaker 2: 38:59

Yeah so, and you know, and we're not in the job, are we, of convincing people about past lives, we're just, you know. It's offering people the opportunity to explore something that's out there, ready for healing, for understanding healing, and it can only improve your current life.

Speaker 1: 39:22

Yeah, absolutely. Oh, thank you, Tracey. It's always a pleasure we could talk for hours, could we? And we have in the pleasure we could talk for hours, can we? And we have in the past, we have. So thank you so much. You are welcome and I hope that people will go and get the book and learn a little bit more. All these things are sort of I've threw everything at it.

Speaker 2: 39:48

I mean the little bit I've read. I can't wait to read the whole book and it, you know it just, I think it'll really, you know, pique people's interest and if, if only a couple of people decide to explore their own past lives, you know, it's an amazing adventure and, no, you won't regret it.

Speaker 1: 40:10

People won't ever regret having um, I think it just really, it really can affect people. Just quickly, before I go, I must tell you a quick story. I was walking to work the other day and I was walking for a park, beautiful park, um, and it's a shortcut so I thought I'll just nip through there and in in the park are some like 500 year plus trees. They are huge, you know. The girth is just huge and there's one next to the path. So I literally went and touched her as I walked past, didn't even break stride, just sort of said hello and um to myself, you know, carried on and about 10 minutes later I had heard this voice and it was excuse me, excuse me, and I turned around.

Speaker 1: 40:56

It was a young man now he couldn't have been more than late 20s, 30, and he was in tears and he said to me I just want to say how touched I am that you went and touched that tree and we had this. I just said bless you, and we had this whole conversation and went on our way and it really stayed with me and I thought how interesting that just that one, really to me very insignificant event I've touched many a tree really moved him and shifted him. And I think when you write a book you send that ripple into out into the world and I just hope, you know, maybe just on one level it might shift somebody to go. Actually, I'm going to try that you know, and.

Speaker 1: 41:42

I threw in lots of themes of essential oils, crystals, and maybe someday we'll go and buy a crystal, or yeah, you know what I'm going to get a diffuser you know and smell some essential oil.

Speaker 2: 41:53

It just just one simple thing can really really be quite profound for somebody yeah and yes, and sending those ripples out, yeah, you know we'll touch, because the person you've touched will touch others, will touch others, will touch others.

Speaker 1: 42:11

So it's so moved bless him moved to tears, which, oh you know when you're relating the story it sounds a bit well what. But I just thought you know that was a sign. It's just a sign that you know simple things shift someone. Yeah right, profoundly anyway. Go off on a tangent there. But thank you, tracy. Thank you very much for supporting Farm to the Soul. Obviously I will put Tracy's details below and I'll put the details of the book.

Speaker 2: 42:41

The Red Mages.

Speaker 1: 42:42

That is coming out soon with all sorts of spiritual themes, but the main one being fast life regression therapy. So I hope that you will go and get that and order that. That'd be lovely. So thank you, tracy, you're welcome listening and I'll speak to you again soon.