He makes learning Gross Anatomy, hilarious! Meet Adrian Miranda, DPT

In this enthralling episode of the Crackin' Backs Podcast, we welcome Adrian Miranda, DPT, the charismatic creator and star of the popular educational show "Gross Anatomy". Born and raised in the vibrant neighborhood of Washington Heights, Adrian shares how his roots have shaped his unique approach to combining healthcare and media.

With years of experience as a physical therapist, Adrian discusses the evolution of patient education and engagement in our digital age. He brings insights from "Gross Anatomy", where he masterfully blends humor with medical education, providing anecdotes about the challenges and triumphs of making learning fun and accessible. Adrian also delves into his role as Dr. Dennis, revealing unexpected lessons that reflect both his screen persona and real-life experiences.

This episode not only explores the balance between educational accuracy and entertainment in healthcare media but also examines the crucial role of human touch in the era of technological healthcare advancements.

Join us for a thought-provoking session that bridges the gap between professional practice and media influence in shaping public health perspectives.

We are two sports chiropractors, seeking knowledge from some of the best resources in the world of health. From our perspective, health is more than just “Crackin Backs” but a deep dive into physical, mental, and nutritional well-being philosophies.

Join us as we talk to some of the greatest minds and discover some of the most incredible gems you can use to maintain a higher level of health. Crackin Backs Podcast

Transcript

Dr. Spencer Baron: 0:00

Welcome to the cracking backs Podcast. Today we're thrilled to have Adrienne Miranda, Doctor of Physical Therapy, a dynamic force from Washington Heights, who has creatively merged his roots in healthcare with the flair of media. Adrienne, a seasoned physical therapist turned media personality brings life to the complex world of anatomy. With his hit show gross anatomy, where humor meets the human body. We'll dive into how his neighborhood inspired his career, the evolution of patient engagement in the digital age and the surprising lessons from his role as Dr. Dennis, get ready to explore whether entertainment and healthcare should entertain or educate, and how Adrian balances this with today's technology, advancements in patient care. So tune in as we unravel the fascinating journey of a man who makes a learning about our bodies as enjoyable and as enlightening.

Dr. Terry Weyman: 1:07

Yeah, we've had doctors talking about anatomy, who teach at medical schools and chiropractic schools and act actually love it. In fact, they've there's one doc that made brought anatomy to life to pull Spencer and I but we've never had someone who took anatomy to the next level and made a show about it through comedy and, and YouTube who's actually has the background of a doctor of physical therapy. So welcome to the show, Adrienne. Thank you so much. How did show growing up in Washington Heights in New York? How did you been from a neighborhood boy and a borough of New York and all that with this culture and influences? decided to pursue a career not only in healthcare, but also media?

Adrian Miranda DPT: 1:54

Well, it's funny, so my neighborhood, have you ever looked it up or seen the movie in the heights? Back in the 90s, when I grew up, it was violent, it was drugs, it was poverty. So by my parents didn't allow me to go outside. I mean, for obvious reasons. You go outside, you become you get two options, you become a gang member or you die pretty much. So pretty much all the negative bad stuff. So because of that, as a kid, I love television. Like I love BT VH one MTV, I love watching all the 90s Silly sitcoms, Family TV shows, and then no telenovelas, I'm half Colombian, half a Salvadorian. And so between 678 years old, I was watching these, like, novellas that were like, everybody's cheating on everybody. Someone shoot somebody and their sister and their brother, and was just like awful stuff. And I'm watching the news in Spanish, which the news in Spanish is pretty extreme. Like, it's like, it's gonna rain tomorrow. It's really like monsoon are gonna be waves. So, I love the television, like I want, I knew I wanted to be there for you know, for whatever intents and purposes, but when you grew up in a, you know, a lot of celebrities say this, I grew up in a poor the hood. And, you know, you didn't really have a dance studio in your neighbor, you didn't really have, you know, music classes, or lessons or any of that stuff. So you just kind of like dreamed. And eventually, I just enjoyed sports. I was kind of one of the few in my family that enjoyed being active. And my father, well, meaning rest in peace. You know, he thought education was the way in which he was 100%. Correct. But he didn't really didn't like sports, like he was against sports and didn't believe it gets you anywhere. And so, you know, I would make a spa team and like middle school, and then I'd have to quit because he'd read a letter saying, I have quit. So I would still try out. I would make the team then I would, I would quit. And to be frank with you. I was I was a good athlete. I was not a good competitor. So I just sucked at like, varsity games. I just thought, like, what in scrimmages on the playground, like, I would do great. Like I was totally fine. But then I found performance in college by accident. And so long story short was I fell into physical therapy by accident. I always love performing and being active. And so when I got into physical therapy school, I had to go to college, which was it was just a computer test in high school. I remember I grew up in the community where healthcare was scarce, if anything, and it was all Medicaid. So the clinics there were just like here still, to this day are not the best kind of quality care that you can find. And really, when I look back when I was about eight years old, my mom had a hip replacement. And she was young for hip replacement at the time this was 9293 I think and I clearly remember because I keep people ask me like how do you get to physical therapist like I really don't know. And then and then how did you want to do gross anatomy and I was like, I really don't know but then after I get those questions in the past like four or five years, around eight years old, my my hair probably Some, my my mom and dad went to, after the surgery went to the appointment, my grandmother was taking care of us. And my dad comes home and I hear him saying we can't afford therapy. We can't we're not going to go back. So I didn't think anything of it, I just remember us not being able to afford something that my mom needed. So all of us, um, uh, you know, one of four kids and my, my grandmother was, was living with us, I was like, between this, you know, five, six of us, we would just take turns taking my mom and helping her do a bathroom. So I think that stuck with me, even at a young age being like, hey, we can't afford this. And then when I went to physical therapy school, doing my internships, practicing the first couple years, I was like, Wait, people can't afford this stuff. This is a luxury. How can I get it to most people without insurance or without a copay? And then I said television, because where I grew up, what people talked about the next day at church at the barber shop at the salons was what happened on the Ellen novella and on the news, and on, you know, in schools will happen on the episode of, you know, gargoyles on full house or Dragonball Z. So I knew that television and we're going to talk about television, I mean, talking about what we're doing right here, you know, but for me, it was the television narrative sitcom was a powerful tool that even today, it still stands with Netflix shows me like The Last of Us every story about The Last of Us. Now Fallout just came out based on the video game, Cobra Kai, Stranger Things. Like those are things that we talked about at the dinner table. You know, we talk about social media influencers, but it's brief. It's like, Hey, you want to make a vegan change in diet vegan, watch this, watch this YouTuber. If you want to be a bodybuilder, watch this YouTuber. If you want to get better at your basketball, watch this barbell, you know, influencer. And it's kind of a quick, fleeting moment. It's all like, kind of internal. It's like you and me. And the influencer versus on television, it feels like it's almost like a, it's a bigger world. And that was my goal, I wanted to scale as big as possible. And I picked the hardest route to go in. And I'm still in that journey. But that's kind of the long story. It was, I just saw a need that people can access, even what we do, you know, rehabilitation and clinical care and health care. Well, maybe you know, my profession, because there was like only 10, nine to 10% of people who actually need rehabilitation actually access it. And so that's a lot of people. And so I just decided to go the entertainment route. And then I spent lots of time and energy learning, not just the clinical side, because I graduated, I was like, before I get out there and television, I want to be the best out there. So graduated, I did a residency, got my ortho, a certified specialty, started my PhD, so I was all but dissertation. And there was a moment where I was like, wait a minute, like, I feel like the research the PhDs that are out there, they're doing research, but a lot of people are listening to influencers that listen to podcasts and social media. And that's the influence besides that, it was at my dissertation took a year longer than just ran out of money. That's that's half of the reasons but it's I justified being like, you know, I feel like ever more more clouded by just become a Perth public persona. You know. So I did, I did a lot of other clinical work and mentored with a lot of you know, fellows and doctors and surgeons and chiropractors as well. And fitness, I was always learning about fitness nonstop. The one thing that I definitely, you know, lacked even even more recently is like the nutrition side and more of the chemicals that are in our foods and how we don't have access to the most Wholegrain foods we think we do, but we don't. So it I think it just like the time events that I've had is like a really holistic kind of view of, if I make this character, you know, who's dealing with this condition, and they're they have this occupation that they have this family to take care of, and they have this goal, this dream. Well, what are the actual other obstacles that happened in life, you know, and so that's kind of where I took the sitcom or the comedy or the TV show aspect, that I'm able to not just teach you about the shoulder, I can teach you about the shoulder nutrition, mental health, sleep, stress, social connection, and then the other 20 things are out there that affects so that's the story and I'll stop talking there.

Dr. Spencer Baron: 9:20

It's good. That's fantastic. Actually, Adrian, you know, I was born in New York, and I'm familiar with Washington Heights and you obviously grew up in a very tough neighborhood battle. You either learn how to fight or you try to make people laugh, so it's exactly

Adrian Miranda DPT: 9:41

or run or run really.

Dr. Terry Weyman: 9:46

You said you don't like competition shows you only run until it becomes really dangerous and then you stop.

Adrian Miranda DPT: 9:53

Yeah, keep running until the other person

Dr. Spencer Baron: 10:00

Right. So you have a show called gross anatomy. I think that's fantastic, which uses humor, and media. And I've always felt that, that that the best way to educate someone is to entertain them. So then all of a sudden this word came out called edutainment that, you know, do you remember a time where you noticed that there's this transition in the way you were presenting that you felt that you needed to be funny or humorous? To? Do you remember that time?

Adrian Miranda DPT: 10:32

Oh, I clearly remember it. So, in Brooklyn, there's this organization called Brick arts media, and they their public access, and I got asked to come talk about ACL injuries. And it's a fishbowl. So it's really cool. It's like but today's show, and I went in, I was all dressed up by the sweater vest on I think, glasses on, I look really good. Like I look really professional. So I'm sitting there, and the host has asked me questions, and then we start recording. And I wasn't nervous about the recording. I was so young. I was like, always it sounds like this is my dream. This was my dream. I wouldn't be like Sanjay Gupta at the time. I didn't really go into the comedy. Yeah, I know when we get there. But I wanted to be more like a documentary like Sanjay Gupta the time, no joke as soon as those lights went on, and I saw the record late, and I felt the lights being bright. And I just perked up a bit. And I was like, Oh, this isn't me. And then I did the interview. And it was totally fine. I showed him some exercise afterwards. I was like, Oh, I thought that was gonna be like, like, the most amazing experience ever. And that was gonna be like, cool. I'm gonna keep coming back and do this. And I'll get on today's show and become an expert and invited person. I didn't like it. So that was a moment. That was like 2011 2012, I think. And it was just, it just took through for a loop. That was instant. And I kind of glad it happened because it was I didn't have to do two or three more times. I was like me like, oh, no, I don't want to be in a suit. I want to be like, dressed up in like makeup and beating people up and getting beat up and you know, getting kicked in the crotch. We're talking about the rotator cuff. You know, so that was kind of the the moment it was laid out. And it's on you know, it's out there. It's on brick TV. It's on YouTube, the interview. And I was just like, wow, this moment that I thought for years I wanted to be in. It didn't even feel like me. It didn't feel genuine for me. Right for somebody else. It made me like perfect. A different time in my life. Maybe But yeah, it was like immediate because I was like

Dr. Spencer Baron: 12:35

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Adrian Miranda DPT: 13:35

That's a good question. You know, it didn't, it didn't come naturally. Well, two things happened. Right? So a little go moments that change, right, the inciting incident, as they call it. So I was I looked very young, you know, I'm actually 39 People think I'm like 2720 25 Sometimes. And so when I graduated, I graduated at 22. So I was really, as a PT practicing, I was 22. Most of my friends were 24 and a little bit and then when I went back to teach in the residency, most people were like, 2728 29, like graduating. And so Anyways, long story short is like, when I started practicing, I looked like I was 17. And patients would come in and grants I remember like, it's not too many brown people treating in physical therapy. So they would be like, where's the where's the therapist? And so, I had to be very professional. I had to be like, Hey, it's your shoulder. What happened? Your shoulder how what's your pain? Like? It was just like so formal. That I couldn't really joke I couldn't really but then I noticed that two things happen. It was like after my second after my residency, and remember, it was like the year after my resume when I was practicing felt confidence. And I just noticed, a couple of my colleagues were just terrible clinicians. No, they were wonderful people like we're friends, but I knew it. They didn't really care. But their patients loved them. And they would keep coming back even though they weren't getting better. And I was like, that's interesting. Then I start getting into the, you know, pain science research and all the neurosciences coming out Melzack and Wall. So these are we're coming back out and getting deep into the pain science. And I was like, oh, there's a big emotional thing that's happening with a lot of our patients. And so I said, hooray. So being so serious. And so I started actually asking people how their day was no joke. Like, that was I was that serious. And that was, you know, I would say, I was a pretty good clinician, people like me, doctors loved me. But there was something missing. So when I started opening up about my own personal life a little bit, telling them about I, you know, even at one point, I started doing theater accidentally, that's how this all kind of started. People asked me about that I would never have opened up in the past and asked people about their would tell him about the kids and, you know, side projects that we're working on, I just saw the changes in them, you know, they just that their improvements just got a little bit faster and better. And, you know, at the time, I had actually had like, outcome measures. And so I was just like, oh, this stuff doesn't work, you know, so it wasn't just about mechanical manual things and exercise, it was about like, this emotional, and this mental state that I could put them in, in this, I should have opened it up a little bit more and being funnier and, and trying to bring light to situation and also loving them. Sometimes it was sad, right? So I'd let them cry, where in the past, they credit, just like freeze up, you know, I wouldn't know what to do. And then you know, then let them cry. You can talk about, Hey, what's up? Did you talk to somebody? So those were moments where I was like, Oh, I think that humans need not just a mechanical input, but they need an emotional connection. And that's what a lot of us clinicians realize you'd have to do. But then, as far as the funny side, I just, you know, I realized that when I was on stage in theater and dance, I started dancing in college, that's where like, the performance really was like, Oh, I'm good at this. This is my competition. Like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna wreck everybody here on stage, like, I'm gonna shine like you've ever watched me. That was like competition comes this kid came out. And then in theater, it was something similar, even if I was the ensemble, you know, because I didn't have a theater background. I realized that, hey, people watch me people, if I can jazz it up and turn it on and make people laugh. And it wasn't super, super hard. And then as far as the television, it was just right. I don't know, like, the writing I think is because I watched so much TV as a kid, you know, that I just like, you know, just like through osmosis, it was all in me like John Leguizamo, and, you know, Wesley Snipes, and, you know, Will Smith and family matters and Full House and Danny Tanner, like, I think I just absorbed it all. And it was kind of like in me that I now when I put it on paper, it just kind of comes out. And it's really fast. And that's a natural talent that I that I've had, that I'm able to write really fast. Now to get me to sit at the computer and type. That's a different story. But once I'm actually at the computer, I mean, I can crank out a script in no time and you know, hit the jokes and land things. So that there's a natural part of me. And then there's also things that I've had to learn over time. And things that were inside of me that to kind of bring out the comedy was, you know, it's hard because I think deep inside he grew up with a lot of kind of like this, some Tom Walton was tumultuous growing up. I think you you surround yourself visually for means visually, whether it's video games or TV with things that were really uplifting. They were down here, but 90% of the day, that 10% You're up here, like you got that and then you absorb that naturally. And then of course, like I realized that I think all of us want to take people out of pain. And it's not just musculoskeletal neuro neuro musculoskeletal pain, it's a lot of other pain. And even like, even on my sets, I've been lucky enough to hire some people both sag actors and non actors and pay them a little bit of money, good money concerning like sag decent money, concerns in any production. It's financial, you know, pain, it's educational pain, teaching someone how to move a light teaching someone how to animate for anatomy or shoot something for anatomy anatomy graphic going up there. You know, there's so many more healings that I've learned over this kind of journey. That doesn't doesn't just stop at the musculoskeletal, you know, as that's what I was taught, you know, in school that and even when they did talk about the bio, they call it bio, psychosocial aspects of pain. I don't think they really made it relatable to us at that stage in our lives. You know, I don't think they really kind of connected that.

Dr. Spencer Baron: 19:35

So the character Dr. Dennis, and gross anatomy, how different is that person in to the real life, you know, experiences in physical therapy?

Adrian Miranda DPT: 19:50

Oh, different. Very different as far as the physical favorite part. So, I mean, the character spoiler he gets screwed over by a business partner now. All he cares about is the human body like He doesn't care about you doesn't care about anything else except for like, Oh, your shoulder. This is the glenohumeral joint. This is the clavicle. But as far as like, Oh, I'm having a bad day, I don't care. I'm gonna walk away. Like, that's not me. Like, I'm definitely gonna, I'm gonna ask you about everything. Someone, my old boss told me, I'm an empath. Say, oh, you're a feeler. I'm like, Yeah, of course. Because if, you know, part of it is like, I care. And too, it's like, if we want to do something together constructive, I have to understand where you're coming from. And so the characters kind of like the anti Adrian, and eventually kind of turns into the Adrian, a little bit more of an Adrian. But, uh, I guess at times he's, you know, I'm very I'm gonna tend to he's not a details person. Let's put it that way. And I'm somewhere in the middle. I'm a very as you can see, have a huge vision for gross net, you know, what I'm doing? Hasn't the clouds overseeing kind of a visionary? And, you know, Dr. Das is very details. He doesn't give a crap about anything else. Me view your body. We're done. That's all we got. Sounds like it's almost like Adrian, the first year of practice, like after the residency. But um, yeah, I think I think there's, I think that's what's nice is like, he's not really like, you know, I mean, there's little, little things in there that kind of put in there. Obviously, as an actor, writer, you know, creator, you kind of have to put yourself in there, because there's probably people that relate to me, as well. So I can't kind of omit all of my all of myself in there. But does answer your question? Yeah.

Dr. Terry Weyman: 21:28

Oh, yeah. I, you know, when when you are writing created characters, like creating an avatar, and what drove you to anatomy? I mean, do you feel that people don't understand anatomy? Do you feel like that you want them to really understand their body? And I'm a big humor guy. I mean, I think if we can get people out there, forget about their pain. So what is your drive to educate people bad anatomy? And how did you come up with this avatar?

Adrian Miranda DPT: 21:56

Yeah, yeah, it's a great question. So I did a couple of testings, even some videos that didn't make it to YouTube where it was. People want to know what to do with their bad shoulder, right? That's cool. But I feel like they do. And then they stopped doing it. And then a year later comes back or six months later comes back. So there's no kind of like, I remember what to do. They usually, typically they would like come back and be like, Oh, my shoulder, economic NFL what to do. So my thought process was to probably like, as far as a business aspect, I felt like a teaching anatomy would be a little bit more break into the market, like universities would use me and get hired, whatever, or get licensing. And then on the other aspect that said, you know, what, if I taught you how to understand the anatomy instead, what if I showed you how the rotator cuff, where the rotator cuff is it's not here? Well, it starts here, it starts in the back, that people don't actually understand what they what to do, even if they forgot the exercise, they can understand the concepts and the biomechanics and the anatomy of it. And then recall that, oh, that muscles here does this, oh, let me go do this exercise. This is how I stretch it, this is how I strengthen it. So kind of let him look under the hood was my thought that they could actually take better care of themselves and take action, as opposed to just give them the exercise and then walking away, which is okay, like, that's totally fine. That's a lot of, you know, people that I did watch, fitness and healthcare will kind of give the answer. But if I can teach you the actual anatomy, and how things function and where they are and how they work, maybe you'll have a better recollection of what to do, even if you don't have the exercise, you can kind of make something up like, oh, it's in the back, oh, maybe it's small muscle and you get a lacrosse ball and do that, you know, or it's in the back of my leg, I can put my foot up on something or, you know, I have to do a back squats to get this going. Right. So that was the idea when I decided to make the sitcom more like teaching anatomy. And obviously, as you hear later, Brucey, it's like, you know, you have the shoulder, but you don't use your legs, you can't actually give a strong punch. So I kind of inject all these little things, that's actually like, you know, physiology and function and, you know, some exercises in there. But, but that was the idea was like, if I can teach the general public basic anatomy, they might be able to create exercises for themselves, you know, and do things for themselves and not have to be reliant on, you know, one solution or two solutions for them. So that was the idea.

Dr. Spencer Baron: 24:22

So, the challenge remains that you have an environment of healthcare that's constantly changing, and I can't imagine, you know, the challenges that went on during, you know, the pandemic. How did you find a balance between, you know, public opinion and what you would do on your show? Is there was there a balance there? How did you were you challenged with any of that?

Adrian Miranda DPT: 24:52

What do you mean by public opinion? Like what I'm doing or

Dr. Spencer Baron: 24:57

Oh, no public opinion about health care and And what you're going to what you're going to present.

Adrian Miranda DPT: 25:03

You know, it's interesting because before the pandemic, no joke. I had a lot of people just kind of like turning like turning away or like not really looking or commenting or things like that. Then about a year before the pandemic, I had a lot of non clinicians reach out to me on LinkedIn, mostly, and on Facebook at the time. And they were like, Oh, I, you know, your videos are great. And like, What are you talking about what video? They're like, Oh, this video that you made about? It was like a silly. He was like a silly photographer. They had tennis elbow or something? Oh, yeah, they actually, their video actually helped me. And I was like, really? And it was not it was either family members or non political friends and then just random people on LinkedIn. And but yeah, for a while it was people thought I was like, it was a hobby. And that was just a game. And it was just, I was I was confused. I got that from a number of people. Oh, you're confused? No, I was like, that's what you think. But no, I'm, I'm very much so not confused. Very much. No, not confused. I'm not confused. And so by. So I proved them, right. But, you know, it was like, there was a lot of people, and no, no joke. Relationships, like girls, I would meet women, and they would literally be concerned about my future. And I was like, alright, that listen, this, I'm so hard set on this. And then over time, they would see me how hard I was working on it, and like studying and writing and creating and on Zoom calls. And they're like, Oh, you're serious about this? Like, what did you think? And so, yeah, I had a lot of pushback, you know, even family members, you know, it'd be like, Oh, he's just, you know, playing around. And yeah, that would be supportive, right. But I think, you know, behind the scenes, it'd be kind of like, oh, yeah, we don't know what he's doing, you know, Doctor physical therapy and went to school. He's just making some silly comedy stuff. And there was some support there, there too. But I think it was like, during the pandemic, and after that, I've done a lot of support away more, and even some petitions asking me, Hey, how do you make videos, like that was in the pandemic? Who asked me, How do they do this? You know, like, how do they create videos. And so now, it's not so wild and wacky and weird, and it's not so confusing. It's kind of like, oh, this is Oh, and it's, it's a different level. So I understand that the market wasn't ready. And I was told that by a couple people, before 2020, and I was like, oh, hang tight. In the meantime, I'll just learn a lot of stuff so that when it does hit, I know about budgeting, I know about marketing, you know, about the new technology that's out there, the new health tech that's out there. And so, you know, it was hard, like, it was very lonely. It is very lonely. You know, I'm sure both of you entrepreneurs, so it can get very, very lonely out there. And sometimes they cater to public opinion, sometimes they don't like I made a video game. And it didn't really land, I'm in an Unreal Engine, virtual reality, and that can't really and based on Angry Birds, didn't really stick. And like HealthTech my own thoughts about that. I don't think it's as as you know, the Savior we all once thought, but I think that we're looking at wrong places. And I think there is there will be a successful health tech thing. But um, now I do see a lot more support, like even just seeing my LinkedIn, like, increase in followers, not just followers, but just like comments, and like, messages, if you like, I love what you're doing. Can we talk? You know, yeah, ask him to help him with some of the things and ask him to be maybe a consultant on on some projects, or healthcare related stuff. So it's really been like past two, three years that people are starting to catch on and enjoy it. And even my YouTube stats are starting to go up for once. And I think it's because you can have two different, you can be two different things in one person, right? Because the algorithm before is like you have to be a shoemaker, you have to be a chiropractor, you have to be a podcast host, you'd have to be a you know, fabric designer. And now I think we're starting to see that most of us are a little bit of a little bit more come combination of a couple of things. And so now I think the numbers are starting to go up and I'm like, Oh, what happened? You know, it changed a couple of things, but nothing too drastic. But I think it's, it's kind of coming around, it's not well to say hey, you can put a health condition in a real life scenario with real characters that resemble your aunt, your brother, your friend, your podcast, co host someone you know, a piece of land in Scotland that you own and make a comedy and heal there and heal their high cholesterol through holistic methods, you know, so that's going to be I don't think it's as crazy as people think. And I think it's just scary. You know, it's hard. I don't think there's too many people out there and it did it's, it's, you know, Bill Nye the Science Guy was like my inspiration then it was like scrubs, er, go Grey's Anatomy. But besides that, you don't really have too many, you know, actual narrative comedy right dramas like Ted last I keep telling people to unless was a mental health TV series wrapped around the sports team, you know, with all different characters. So I think it's because it's hard, like, oh, I went to PT school and see crazy amounts for like about an extra five years out of school, and then learn filmmaking, and not just filmmaking, like, everything to do with filmmaking, including virtual reality, including motion capture and putting in animation, and then writing, you know, how do you write, and there's a formula for Hollywood, excuse me, on how to write, and even for characters, and even for situations, and even the actual script itself, that maybe even the script lady has little formulas, almost like we do examinations, you know, you do this second, third, they have a hypothesis and you test it, then you re examine this unit work. So, yeah, it's not easy. Like,

Dr. Terry Weyman: 31:00

I got some free during, you know, humor both mentioned, I've learned it's very geographic, and I love I'm more of a East Coast humor, the sarcasm and all that. But in West Coast, that doesn't really fly as well. So how do you? How do you balance the educational accuracy? Over the dramatic effect? And are you willing, even if it means sacrificing viewership, where do you draw the line? Pushing the too far to get the laugh? Versus holding back to get the accuracy? Oh,

Adrian Miranda DPT: 31:33

gosh, that's a loaded question. Because, because I don't think about it, to be frank with you. And it's up, because it's not because of lack of thought. It's just almost like my body's already filtered it. And so I kind of know where the red line is. And actually, I did a project for a company that was like a nurse IVF training. And the person who brought me on board is like, you know, like, how you kind of don't cross the line, you just get right to the line. And he's like, back off. Right. And I think it's just like, over the years, you know, you know, watching No joke, like my dad used to love Eddie Murphy, Eddie Murphy, back in the 90s, I was a kid, I didn't know larious he cursed so much. And my dad's like, get out of like, New York City apartment, you can hear everything, you know, grow up listening to Dr. Dre, right? So I came from a very, you know, exploitive and parental guidance kind of world. And I also lived in a very, very sterile, like, I can't wait to get out of the hood, like, you know, fantasies and Carebears. So I think I just developed a way of kind of drawing the line for myself, and hoping that if I draw the line to this place, those viewers are going to also relate to me, right? And so like, I don't want to you know, I want to put people in a in a light, but understand that there's a lot of sad things that happen to us, you know, you could be a very, very, very wealthy, true story, like, very, very wealthy surgeon, very well known surgeon, home invasion, and Connecticut killed all this family. Right? And like, that's, those are real things that happen right now. How do you put that into a scenario that's relatable, you kind of have to dial it back, you're not going to go through that whole thing. However, if I were a drama, any writer, drama drama writer, I could put that right in, right? But it's not who I am. Right? So the with the comedy, it's like, alright, this devastating thing happens. How do I create the company around that? So what I would do is, you make the Tommy around this conference, people are sharing their experiences, how it's affected, their health doctor comes in and talks about, you know, it's a bunch of comedy, fun, fun, fun, funny, funny stuff. You know, people razzing each other and then all of a sudden it's like, Alright, tell us where you're here? Well, you know, 10 years ago, my family was murdered in a home invasion. That's the drama, the drama, the drama, the part. And that's for 510 minutes, a little monologue. And then we lightened up the conversation again, or ends right there. Right. So that's how I have the line, where it's almost like in the past, How did someone recover from a dark tragedy and come to the front? So even in the web series, for, for example, you know, episode three, I think. Yeah, I think it's episode three or four. Creatively, and I don't remember. But, you know, there's a moment where the, the two class classmates are upset. And it just so happened that like the week before, when we classmates a Max's characters, parents got held up by immigration and China couldn't get back in the country and they support a family of four. And she was about to go to college, be the first to go to college, and kind of be the successful one. But now her parents can't come back and she can't go to college. So she's in the GED program. So it was like a two minute moment of like, yeah, well now I'm really You're broken, I just bought two pairs of your $100 shoes to support you. And now you're telling me that you're lying. You know, I've tried to do a good deed and it backfires on me. And I have three brothers and support. And that's a moment, then we kind of break out of that. But it's a past tense type of thing. So that's how we can bring a good line of like, oh, this is really sad and dark. And I kind of just draw a line at a certain point where everything's in the past. But then you just kind of wrap around it. 80% of it is the comedy, the humor, and then you've got 20%, because that's real life. And that's where I think that that's what I have to put out there is that your situation now, as a result of either your choice or not your choice, but it's you who has to get out of it. And that's a reality. So I, maybe because I think it's comedians, they say, like, become a really dark place. And so you know, you can go really dark. And so you kind of know, I have to be over here. I've been here and I know what this feels like, I know exactly how to move back and forth. Like, just like with your patient, you know exactly how to progress them and regress them you just kind of at this point seems right? You can name their present time, understand what to push them and pull back. And then other times, oops, that's your that won't do that point. 5% that just slipped through the cracks. You're an anomaly. Okay, and you learn from that, right? But, um, yeah, I think that's part of it is that, you know, when you kind of grew up, you know, in a very, you know, tough environment, you understand how far back you can go, and then you understand what the lines are. I think that's that's just a thing that you learn. In

Dr. Spencer Baron: 36:33

comedy, they taught us, there was something called the suck and slap method. And that was, again, suck them in how the, the story as dark as it could be, and then slap them with the punch line, or slap them with, you know, something that completely interrupts that pattern of being depressed or sad or troubled. So, you know, physical therapy, and chiropractic and so is simply what it says physical therapy, the human touch is so important to healing. But we are confronted now with artificial intelligence and how technology is really moving fast. How do you have How do you manage that? And how do you feel about it? What do you do anything in your in your entertainment that bridges the gap between what you do and? And technology?

Adrian Miranda DPT: 37:33

Yeah, so I actually use motion capture for I was working on a like a Pixar style series where Dr. Dennis no joke. Dr. Dennis goes into the metaverse and has to save the world. And his family. His mom is begging him to come back home and either can go home and suffer for the world with his family, or try to save the metaverse and he's just, he's only like, he's not even like a special operations or militaries. He's a 3d character. And so he debates with that, but he is he he is going to keep these the army because the army is Androids and they respond just like the human body. So they have like a tendinitis, like, when they fired, it just was all over the place. Like it's terrible. And so I have like a short, it's like a three minute clip of that. i It's fine. Like there's a musical number in there as well. So, you know, yeah. So yeah, so I use, you know, motion captures AI is predictive. I work for a health tech company using computer vision. So AI, with that, for me, I use Chad up to a lot for, you know, marketing stuff. You know, he like getting the emails but like taglines, you know, testing things for YouTube, like different keywords. So he's tried to be to a lot. As far as the actual the AI, I use it. Yeah, for productivity right now, like for marketing, like distribution and finding people on LinkedIn or producers or show runners that can kind of help me out. I use AI tools to kind of get their information and find them sounds really terrible. But like, you hit it, like download a bunch of like, listens of LinkedIn profiles using AI. And I do believe so that I think the CEO of Lululemon said like, two, three years ago that in the future, a lot of us are going to have wearables, and have biomarker detections like all around us 24/7. So we don't really need doctors or health care providers. And what I think is, I think that's extreme. I think we're going to be once inputting all that information into the data. And I do believe I think like the the CGM. I told you I have a continuous glucose monitor right? I think like if I can have this 24/7 I can learn that we'll have to use it for a while or just keep it or even have a shirt that has sensors where it says oh, you know your, you know, your upper trap is becoming weak. are tighter, you know, you might want to do something about that. It'll be like a little like your contact lenses, right upper trap, do something about it. I do kind of see that happening. I do see avatars like avatars, helping people with going through exercises, mobility or self self soft, soft tissue at home. I do see that. I kind of see Ready Player One. Have you seen the movie? Ready Player One? Yeah, so like, put a VR headset in your ear in the world, like you're just living in a cubicle, he's probably a headset and you're in the world and can do whatever will play a video game all day long. But, yeah, I do think there's gonna be a role for it. I think it's gonna help us assess our bodies love better. I just I just don't think that technology is quite there yet. But I think that's going to happen as far as for the entertainment part. I'm not worried about it. A lot of my friends in the film industry are very worried about like, half are worried and half of us are like, it's awesome. For example, actually, it's a lie. I use AI music creation for a YouTube short that I made. It was like a 3d avatar thinking about the gluteus medius and Maximus doing the rap. So I had it I use like music allowance of Google's and I put in like 1990s r&b Hip Hop, like Dr. Dre and they gave me a track. And then I had the lyrics done. Give me a ladies. Dr. Dre inspired rap about the gluteus maximus Medius gives me let tweak a lot of things. I don't even know when you get this stuff back, or you have to tweak a little bit. But what was funny, like two hours writing lyrics, I took 30 minutes, really like five minutes to do the prompt and get it. And then the 25 minutes edit, add my own words and do that. So it does help but like, yeah, music I've done, I'm going to the video. And I admit that for generative art AI, I've tried it, and I'm just not good at it. And for whatever reason I've done the tutorials, I've done it. For other tools, I'm good, I understand how to do it, even like Excel AI and Google Sheets, AI plugins. But like the art stuff, and I'm the but as far as like the content creation, you know, there was a article about Tyler Perry pulled out of his like $700 billion studio studio, or 7 billion or 700 million, something in the 70s and really high up really expensive. And he saw Sora AI and he pulled out. He said like the future of filmmaking is gonna change. But you still need people to write those characters, you know, so many people to inject that information into the data into the computers to give us good story. So as far as I feel like you can't take away that creativity. You know, and if you if you do it, you can tell humans can tell if your headshot is AI, or if it's a real headshot, like we are still humans. But I do use a lot of them use a lot of tools. And then sometimes I don't use them, like in my production, and sometimes I do. But I'm gonna, I'm

Dr. Spencer Baron: 42:57

gonna take you back to the behavior of human touch and how that impacts people. And how technology is, is tending to move us away from that. And you as a physical therapist, you know, you find that you find that there's an absence of that, or you're you maximise on that, because that is a big part of healing is putting your hands on somebody.

Adrian Miranda DPT: 43:23

Yeah. So my whole drive to make the content was when I watched rocky as a kid, when I used to watch the NBA Finals, I used to, I used to dribble the basketball on the fourth floor. It's not the neighbor's, right? Rocky, I would, you know, pretend the shadow box are mostly Bruce Lee, I will try to I love martial arts as a kid as I got older and you know, MMA and fighting and so even though when I saw like the latest rock in the Creed, Creed two, I think it was like next day I went, hit the bag and got my coach to train with me. So I feel like movies have a way to inspire them to take action and do something. movies and television shows theater as well. I've done theater as well. And so I think this will make me want to go hug or touch somebody else. So as someone who I agree with it, the mechanical that this is has a big place in our lives. I'm a swing dancer, I perform and I swing dance regularly. And I think that's very therapeutic for me. And for a lot of people, you know, to just having a rough day, they don't mind a lot. Being on my computer and going like tonight have rehearsal and to just dance with somebody and touch them. That makes me feel so much better. I have a crappy frickin day. And I don't want to go dance. They get to dance and we Oh man. They came there for three hours. Like Oh, I gotta go home. Nevermind, what more days. And so I think this is going to what I'm trying to do is I'm trying to push people to get that healing touch to do something whether it's move their own body move with somebody Do you talk to a family member, they even talk about a talk to you that's harming your health. That's kind of what I'm trying to do like, nudging you through a medium, this, this and your television, to go and take action. That was the number one goal for me in the clinic when I started my internships and the student was like, oh, man, everybody should know this. Why don't they come into clinic? You know, so I was like, well, mostly it was because I was like, Man, this is expensive. I was like, but everybody should know this. So either you go see, you know, Lord, Baron, through go see Dr. Terry. Sorry, Dr. Barron, Dr. Berry, Dr. Perry, because you saw on television, this episode of somebody who got better by going to see this really trusted doctor. Right. And so it's really a nudge, like a really strong nudge by using emotions to get people to do stuff. So I don't think the healing touch will go away. I'm also, you know, I came from a background of a lot of manual stuff like osteopathic chiropractic, I read a ton of chiropractic research. When I was at Texas Tech, we went PhD jmm T was a big, big, big, big journal that we studied. And so manual soft tissue. Oh, that was a huge proponent of that, then I kind of switch this up. I don't always have to be there. What did I can help somebody through this? My buddy called me up severe back pain. We did this before it was even zoom. You know, 2000? Not 10? I think it was, and I was able to help. Right? So there's kind of like, there's people that are able to get the healing touches? And what about the people that can't? You know, what do we do with them? Right? So I had to kind of figure out, how can I do? How can I do I can do both. But how can they do both? When the person on the other side doesn't have the access to it doesn't have the ability? The means the travel the time whenever it is? And yeah, so that was kind of it. But ya know, I agree with you that the human touch is so powerful that says, you know, put my hands on someone and they're like, I feel better, Mike, I don't know what I did. But I'm awesome. I didn't touch them. And they got better. And like, oh, like I shook their hand, I give them a hug or a pat in the back. Oh, that was you know, we're touch someone who started crying. No one's ever touched me like that, like 10 people and no one ever found the problem is okay, cool.

Dr. Terry Weyman: 47:25

So I think I spent 30 years of that, you know, touching somebody, they feel better, and I have no idea what I just did. So I got that. All right, I'm gonna switch gears a little bit. I'm gonna tap into your creative Comedy Side, and, and your physical therapy sides. So I want you to think about if each human body part has its own agent, and its own Hollywood agent and publicist like, like the Hollywood stars, which by part do you think would be the biggest diva? And it demands multiple

Adrian Miranda DPT: 47:58

choice or?

Dr. Terry Weyman: 47:59

No? What do you think about what we think it'd be? bipod would be the biggest diva domain special treatment? And how as you how would you as a director and a physical therapist, manage its oversized ego on the set of great gross anatomy,

Dr. Spencer Baron: 48:14

and vagina is not an answer.

Adrian Miranda DPT: 48:25

Or you know, numbers four and five, so I was clear. What's the biggest need but I would say I would say the neck, cervical spine somewhere around here, this whole area, right there.

Dr. Terry Weyman: 48:49

And how would you manage the ego on the sub gross anatomy? How would you make it work?

Adrian Miranda DPT: 48:56

Expanded I mean, he got so many different so many different ways. As a director, you see it from a lot of different different types of egos. All

Dr. Terry Weyman: 49:05

right, think of it is the biggest Hollywood diva walking onto your set, expecting everything to bow to him. So how would you handled the cervical spine injury as the biggest Diva and how would you how would you work it into your show?

Adrian Miranda DPT: 49:19

Oh, oh, it's good question. I'm just thinking about a sketch that I did for the cervical spine. Maybe

Dr. Spencer Baron: 49:27

get your head out of your ass

Adrian Miranda DPT: 49:31

Nope. Forceps just natural no epidural. No pain. Yeah. Yeah, you know, it's so again like situational, right? Like turning moms or dads driving the car. Right. And they always at least for me, like in the clinic. They always complain about how like they're driving and they have to do Do this and quiet the baby down it just kills them. So it would be kind of that situation would be a funny hilarious like the baby stories up at the front. And that's on the phone call and zoom call and I have cya and silly time I had and so the baby's throwing stuff and you know, dad or mom hasn't turned around their neck is just kind of keeps on like grinding, cracking or just being uncomfortable or spasming up and they're kind of in this weird, contorted position. So that's kind of what I would do in a in a in an episode. Then there's always you know, the fun again, the Batman Begins sketch and I, I wrote, we're supposed to shoot it, but the actor was really busy. He's also a lawyer and an ex Marine, trained Marines. And so we're gonna do a sword fight and outside and just didn't work out with the timing. But we did the Christian Bale Raza cool fight scene. And it's really just about kind of, he had this terrible bad back. And this is it was really, it's about like core weakness. So it's very, all this stuff is like really basic. And Raj, our goal is like making them do planks and do kind of like bird dog exercises and games of the court. He's like, kicking them punching them while he's doing it. Like I like the rocky style stuff. And then at the end, you know, his backfields been a unit tax warehousing raw square ASIC is something that's like four times. So weird discrepancy was all done actually. Yeah, so it's like, you know, putting these these body parts in real situations, you have to ask SEF to use it, right? You know, the Top, Top Gun, part three, now is another one that we're gonna shoot to, I have a bunch of scripts that haven't been produced. So it's like, kind of like they're tucked away. And it's, it was, well, that one was supposed to be kind of like some pain or trigger finger was one of those things, those hand pain pretty much where you can't shoot the missile. And you know, I have to So in Top Gun, I guess like, someone gets a panic attack, and Tom Cruise has talked him out of it to fly the plane or as a plane is going down. Everybody's seen it. And so when my schedule was like, after talking about of like, how to do you like the foam rolling on, like the stick and the pilot stick, and then you can shoot and we when we save the world? But yeah, just putting things into like, really? How do you use your neck, right? So if it's a boxer kind of kind of slipping, and like, that can bother you, right? And then they just kept getting punched in the face because they can't because it gets fascinating. So that's why I put those characters the body parts into the scene. It's what a real life situations that most of us find mundane, right? It doesn't hurt doesn't bother you. And so you can't use it. Right? Your pinky is a tiny little thing, but when you can't use it good looking tennis. Right? Good luck. Alright, it's fine until you really can't use it any like, oh, man knows how much a pinkie is so important for the pinky toe? Right? Yeah. Where your TMJ. So it's just going to putting these real situations, putting them on set with their diva, honestly, everybody just wants something. They're a pain in the ass, no pun intended. They want food, they want more attention. They want more touch. And they want more, they want less of something too, though. It's an I don't break divas onto my set. I really don't. I had to, I did have to fire a camera person because it was just, it was bringing everything down. And that's important, right? And that's a healthy environment. So if I'm not in charge of that healthy environment, everything crumbles. And I saw it happening. And I was like, it takes longer. It's more expensive. And it's just not fun. Like, all my stats are just ridiculous like this, like what we're doing right now. That's my son. Like, we just have fun. And you know, one time was the only time that I really had a negative experience with somebody. And even then, it wasn't awful. It was just uncomfortable. And the late everything. So yeah, he can be a diva. You just got to be a nice diva. Really, really nice diva. Okay, Adrian,

Dr. Spencer Baron: 53:57

we're going to enter one of my favorite parts of the end of our podcast and it's called the rapid fire class. Right? All right. And UK you This

Adrian Miranda DPT: 54:09

is where your new better? And I didn't, I didn't. This is gonna happen.

Dr. Spencer Baron: 54:17

This is where your humor and creativity and education are going to fall into place. I have five questions for you. Are you ready for number one? No. Aren't you? Oh my gosh. Adrienne Miranda, Wait,

Adrian Miranda DPT: 54:36

give me like two. All right, I'm ready. Ready? Okay.

Dr. Spencer Baron: 54:39

Did you take a deep breath? No.

Adrian Miranda DPT: 54:42

Have you read this whole podcast? You

Dr. Spencer Baron: 54:45

are turning a little blue. As a New Yorker deeply involved in both healthcare and entertainment. What's the strangest yet surprisingly effective health care tip that you've picked up from, especially in a city that says die? versus as yours.

Adrian Miranda DPT: 55:03

For myself for that I give like,

Dr. Spencer Baron: 55:05

I'll take you either

Adrian Miranda DPT: 55:09

listen to your body, like listen yourself. Yeah, it's hocus pocus II. But I'm like, What is your body telling you? Like, what is your body's telling? I think it's this you know, I have this bag that's like 10,000 pounds and I will put it on my hip. Like, seriously? Why isn't it with you today? Oh, it's here. It's, it's just out in the in the lobby, like, well, so it's like listening to like, like, what's the weirdest? Yeah, I asked that question. Tell me. Tell me what your body's telling you. I know. It sounds weird. It's hocus pocus. See what your body's telling you? Yeah. Well, I did this. Louis, somebody told me they had the orgasm and neck spasm. But they held back for two visits. No joke was like, Well, okay, thank you now that we clear to that faithful like that.

Dr. Spencer Baron: 55:58

Alright, question number two, you're ready. All right. If you were able to write a musical episode of gross anatomy, what would be the show stopping number and who would sing it?

Adrian Miranda DPT: 56:13

It's cold. It's all connected. That's episode 505. Isn't it? Yeah, she's a SAG actor, union actor, but if you're talking like a celebrity, it was about the pelvis. So like, you know, if I kept going right, it was it was kind of going into the pelvis. Mostly the bones but yeah, it would go into obviously the vagina and penis. Because what better way to read the sun and like a big mouth because it's talking about pregnant parts. And I like potty humor. But yeah, the pelvic pelvic musical number it would definitely actually be more rock. You know, kind of like Tommy Jesus Christ Superstar type of thing. Like or even just like a like a jukebox musical like I would kind of like take a rock like a Bon Jovi song just adapted. And then who would it be to Taylor Swift, obviously. I'm a Swifty. So, yeah,

Dr. Spencer Baron: 57:10

I personally like Ariana Grande. Sorry.

Adrian Miranda DPT: 57:13

Okay, that's cool. Second.

Dr. Spencer Baron: 57:17

All right. Question number three. Adrian, in your opinion, what is the most underrated aspect of physical therapy that could revolutionize the way people approach their own health care?

Adrian Miranda DPT: 57:32

You said underwriting right? Yeah. Self movement and analysis. So the and I teach this to a physical therapist as well, when I was teaching residents and PTs, the more you move, and the more things that you do your body, you understand it better, right? You dance your walk, you run into martial arts, you do grappling with your striking, you do ballroom dance, you do gardening, like the more things you do not just like athletic and then are singing as well as a muscle. The more things that you do, you can find your limitations, you can find your strengths, and then you kind of know what to work on. Right. So I think that the more that you put your body under stress, the more builds and grows and more input that you get. And so a lot of the times like I had, you know, and this is for patients too but for even coalition's I was surprised I was like how many of you do you know a sport or two or something maybe like, either Z once a week or they'd be like hardcore, the one sport like a big big hardcore runner, you know, big number. I love CrossFit for six years big, big into CrossFit. But I was like, two more like expand your your language, expand your moves, because the patients that we see, you know, are a multitude of things. And then also sitting like I have sat more in the past four years and I ever have. And I didn't understand it sounds crazy. Like I wish I would have set more. And so not so pretty. I think like you can see me here I'm fidgeting like crazy. It's uncomfortable for me. That's one of the reasons I can't write. It's because the computer for 30 minutes. It's miserable. And so even that was a learning experience for me. Where I was like, oh, you know, I naturally uncross my legs and naturally switch positions are naturally twist. People don't have that instinct. So yeah, so I just say do more doing more things will tell you more information.

Dr. Spencer Baron: 59:33

Question number four is going to be this is going to test your agility and your creativity in comedy and drama. You're ready. If you could do a crossover episode between gross anatomy and the classic sitcom Seinfeld. Oh gosh, what would the plot be and how would the characters both collide in an economy?

Adrian Miranda DPT: 59:59

I hate so I'm proud. So I was I was thinking like suits. I was thinking like, please all besides outside film, or what's the Ray Romano show? Everybody hates, right? Everybody Loves Raymond. I was like, Please don't pick those. All right, Seinfeld, it would be crazy. Honestly, it'd be Kramer either has a bad shoulder or hip, and he can't barge through the door. So like he always has to knock and have the door open. like it'd be something where he can't like do the quick entrance. And you know, I like kind of come in, almost like a deadpan in and, you know, awkwardly kind of touched creamer and he just doesn't like it. And SIBO is like, nobody's the best in town like he's in the he'll use and I'm just like, put your leg up over here. If you want attention, you know, they're like, Oh, what are you doing? Like, I feel like it would be kind of goes back and forth like complete opposites. And we're just like, I don't want to work with you. In terms like Me neither. And inside was like, I need you to stop ringing my doorbell. So I needed to get better, like locks the doors. So that's why I feel

Dr. Spencer Baron: 1:01:04

good. And I could see that as question number five. Last one. I think you're gonna really liked this one. If gross anatomy was a hit game show. It would be the most bizarre physical therapy challenge you would have the contestants face. But yeah, educate the public. Yeah.

Adrian Miranda DPT: 1:01:27

I was in a bubble spongiosa muscle identification whether or not so radar, the obturator internus. Locate the altered internists or the mobile spongiosa as muscle

Dr. Spencer Baron: 1:01:45

one shot viewers have no idea what that is.

Dr. Terry Weyman: 1:01:52

They can look it up.

Dr. Spencer Baron: 1:01:54

Definitely look it up and have an afterlife.

Adrian Miranda DPT: 1:01:58

They're gonna close that window down so fast.

Dr. Spencer Baron: 1:02:01

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Adrian Miranda DPT: 1:02:03

Like Honey, what are you looking at? Nothing. X, X out real quick.

Dr. Spencer Baron: 1:02:08

That's, that's fantastic. Good job. Good job.

Adrian Miranda DPT: 1:02:12

I never thought it would game show.

Dr. Terry Weyman: 1:02:15

No. That's fine. I'll

Dr. Spencer Baron: 1:02:20

tell you. That was great. Adrian, I love that you were I love the education. I love what you're doing here. I really I appreciate it. We're gonna push it to the to the limit here and really expose you to all that we know.

Adrian Miranda DPT: 1:02:36

Thank you so much. Yeah, it was

Dr. Spencer Baron: 1:02:39

fantastic. Thanks, AJ, appreciate you. And for

Dr. Terry Weyman: 1:02:41

all those listeners tune in to gross anatomy. It's a great show. He's hilarious. And it's fun. And it's a good way of learning about your body. So we appreciate everything you do to help people get healthy in a great and creative way. So I'll put all the links at the in your description so people can find you. So we appreciate your time. We appreciate your last and I gotta go look up a muscle right now. So I'll be I'm going to close down Yeah.

Adrian Miranda DPT: 1:03:10

Use incognito window by the way.

Dr. Terry Weyman: 1:03:13

I go gone my closet. So thank you for your time. And it's great to meet you and and we appreciate everything you bring to the table buddy.

Dr. Spencer Baron: 1:03:21

Thanks, Adrian.

Adrian Miranda DPT: 1:03:22

Thank you.

Dr. Spencer Baron: 1:03:26

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