How to change and Manifest a new life for yourself?

Join us on this powerful episode of The Crackin' Backs Podcast as we sit down with Shawn Feurer, a remarkable individual who turned his life around after facing personal tragedies with his parents, siblings, and his own family. Shawn's story is one of resilience, transformation, and the profound impact of subconscious paradigms.

In this episode, Shawn shares the strategies he applied to break free from deeply ingrained, unproductive habits and avoid the well of self-pity and loss. He draws wisdom from 'The Moses Code' and 'The Secret' by Bob Proctor, revealing how these guides have helped him and others find a path to joy, love, and success.

Key Topics Discussed:

Transformative Strategies: Learn the powerful methods Shawn used to overcome his lowest points and how you can apply these strategies to your own life.

Personal Transformation: Shawn shares personal battles and how internal shifts led to unexpected external successes.

Mindset Shifts: Explore Shawn’s approach to fostering joy and love through mindset changes and what he says to skeptics who view these goals as intangible.

Overcoming Personal Challenges: Shawn reflects on the most challenging belief or habit he had to change and the strength he found to push through.

Leadership and Personal Development: Discover how counterintuitive leadership approaches can lead to better results than traditional methods.

This episode is packed with actionable insights and inspiring stories that will resonate with anyone looking to break free from unproductive habits and lead a more fulfilling life. Whether you're a regular listener or new to the show, this episode is a must-listen for those interested in personal development, leadership, and the power of the subconscious mind.

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Transcript

Dr. Spencer Baron: 0:01

Welcome to the cracking backs podcast today, we have an extraordinary guest, Shawn Feurer, who transformed his life after personal tragedies with his parents, siblings and his own family brought him to rock bottom. Discover how the powerful strategies Sean applied to break free from deeply ingrained habits and avoid the well of self pity. Learn how the Moses code and the secret and the illustrious motivational speaker Bob Proctor guided him to help others. Sean shares his personal battles, revealing how internal shifts led to unexpected successes for skeptics, Sean addresses the importance of feeling worthy of love and to be loved. He also discusses overcoming his toughest personal challenges and how to counter intuitively provide leadership approaches that led to an extraordinary result. This episode is packed with life changing insights that you don't want to miss.

Dr. Terry Weyman: 1:12

All right? Well, we're excited to have the mind mentor, or I was going to call him Sean, on the show today. So Sean, you know, when I got introduced to you, I was told about we have a mind mentor, a guy that can really get the positivity out of the darkness. So I am sorry, excited to have you and start some great conversation on this beautiful day. So welcome to the show, buddy.

Shawn Feurer: 1:35

Hey, thank you so much. I'm excited to be here. I'm excited to be here.

Dr. Terry Weyman: 1:41

All right, well, you say that, but let's just kick it off right off the bat. Let's go. Let's go into the deep and because, you know, I want to grab that attention, there's a listener's attention right off the bat. And so you lost, you lost your mom to Alzheimer's, and I just recently went through that with my mother in law. So I saw what it did to my wife. I saw what that illness did to my my family that I've been a part of for a long time. I kind of everybody up, and I'm sure it you up. And considering the powerful influences of these subconscious paradigms, what strategy did you learn in this dark space that we can kind of kick off and help give something people to think about, to break out of their deep, ingrained, unproductive habits, whatever those are

Shawn Feurer: 2:34

Okay? Yeah, no, and that's obviously my mother's very near and dear to my heart and watching somebody that you love and care about more than probably any other human being in the world other than yourself, was one of the most challenging things I've ever experienced. The heart of hardest part for me, my mom passed away in 2017 at 63 years old. She had early onset Alzheimer's, and she was a physical specimen of a human being. She was healthy. She had no other ailments other than when the Alzheimer's hit. I mean, she had great blood pressure, low cholesterol, like she she was a physically healthy woman. And I think for me, that made it even harder to watch her lose her mind. Because, I mean, she and I look young for my age, she looked very young. She looked like maybe she was in her 50s. As you know, she's losing her losing her mind. And you know, I'll never forget one of the first times we knew someone was off. Me and my father were business partners, and we were actually doing business planning in my parents basement, and he got a phone call from my mom, and she was somewhere in Salt Lake, and she didn't know where she was, and she was having a massive panic attack and had no idea where she was, and I just remember that hitting me, like, oh my gosh, like, my mom can't even drive any anywhere anymore. And so yeah, emotionally, that hit that hit hard for listeners, I kind of want to just add a few more things, because for my specific situation, Terry, I in 2014 I hit rock bottom in my life, and we can talk a little bit more about that, but I had done the best of my ability with all my subconscious limitations to build what I thought was a beautiful life. I had four kids, my wife, a business, a beautiful home in 2014 I had short sold my house. I got my butt kicked in the recession and never recovered, and I held on longer than I should have, which put more stress and bull crap, already into my subconscious. My my ex wife. She's an ex wife now in 2014 I was two years from divorce. Didn't know it. I was two years from my four beautiful children having some paradigms put into them through the process of divorce that shifted their opinion of me. And so I moved into my parents basement in 2016 at the end of 16, and so I was in the house with my mom and dad as she died in April. So I am so grateful. And again, how do I find good and bad situations? I was broke when talking about my wellness. I was sick. I had so much stress that I was on prescriptions for. Uh, indigestion and heartburn. They had me on two. They wanted me for me on a third. And that's when I'm like, I gotta remove some stress. I can't keep taking medicine for heartburn. They wanted me on testosterone, anxiety meds. And I said no to all of it. But going back to my mom, she'd been on a lot of anxiety medication, and, you know, there's no medical diagnosis, but I have a lot of mindset beliefs about her Alzheimer's, and part of it was her brain, not her mind, but her brain got really messed up by a lot of chemicals over an extended period of time, which definitely impacted the effect of the Alzheimer's. But I was sitting in my parents basement, working in my computer. It was 7am I have a lot of clients on the East Coast, and I'm just getting to the point of how challenging and where I dug deep and found it inside of me. My parents bedroom was above me. I could hear my mom and dad fighting because she had no idea who he was. She had woke up that morning and was like, Who's this strange man in my bed? And was yelling at him? And so literally, you guys, I'm sitting in this bed. I'm like, I live in the basement. I can barely afford to give my dad 500 bucks. 100 bucks a month for rent. My kids are being turned against me. My ex wife is coming at me hard, and now my mom's dying and she's upstairs and she doesn't even know who my dad is. And I have a mantra called enjoy the ride, and enjoy the ride is in any moment of life, trying to find a better feeling emotion, and I use gratitude as the bridge, because when I'm in a challenging situation, I can find gratitude for something. So in that moment is when I came up with how I dealt with the rest of her passing. I said, Sean, you're kind of depressed right now, and you have a lot of reasons to lean into that and become a victim here. You don't feel good, you're sick, you're broke, you're kind of all alone and your mom's dying, but you don't know how long she's going to be here, and you know this is all temporary, so let's find some gratitude. Let's find a bridge to enjoy this ride. Because these are the last few months, years. I didn't know at the time how long it would be, and so I said, I'm going to lean in, I'm going to enjoy the ride. What am I grateful for today? I'm so happy. I'm down here broke, and I have to live with my parents because I'm going through a divorce, and I can run upstairs. And one of my greatest blessings was my mom always remembered me. She didn't forget me. She didn't always know exactly like my name or who I was, but when I'd look into her eyes, she would calm down. And I ran upstairs that morning, and I walked in, and then my dad was trying to calm her down, and I said, mom, and she looked at me, and I walked over, and I gave her a hug, and she calmed right down. And then we had a conversation, and I reminded her who he was, and she was so funny. My dad is a good looking man, but he kind of had a prominent nose. And I'll never forget that moment. She goes, I married him like he kind of has a big nose Shawn. my poor dad, you know, he's just like, oh my god, I can't imagine what his emotions were. The love of his life is telling me has a big nose, and why does she marry him? So again, I'm adding humor. I'm in gratitude. It's like, this sucks more than anything I've ever dealt with in my life. You know, my mom can't even dress herself. I mean, she'd come out in the morning with her shirt on back. Her shirt on backwards, with food on it, and she was the most proper Little Princess you'd ever met. I mean, she was always well dressed, hair done, and to see her not even be able to do that, not remember my dad? Yeah, it was. And as you know from your experience, Alzheimer's is horrible. It's probably, you know, I've done a lot of work on fear and anxiety, and I say I don't have any fears. I don't fear death, I don't fear loss, I don't fear scarcity anymore. No energy to it. But Alzheimer's is not something I ever want to deal with personally, and I am always searching for good information for my mind, for my brain, to try and keep me sharp, because that was one of the most challenging experiences of my life, but that that's kind of how I handled it, and it's how I handle every challenge that comes out of me now is okay, this, this is gonna be hard. Where's the gratitude and how can I shift into a better feeling so I can try and enjoy this learning that's coming to me?

Dr. Terry Weyman: 8:56

Yeah

Dr. Spencer Baron: 8:57

Sean, how do you how do you interrupt that pattern and flow, like when you feel it coming on. Do you do? Like a scale in your brain, where you go, Oh, wait, you know, I'm a, I'm feeling a nine out of 10. You know? I need to, I need to shift my consciousness. And what do you say? Do you say something to yourself, or do you repeat a mantra or something, anything in particular?

Shawn Feurer: 9:19

Yeah, strategy that you might Yeah, I actually do a lot of work on that. And if you're okay, I kind of want to rabbit hole, because I've gotten better at it as I've used the tools that I now teach as part of my my mindset program with my home improvement contractors. But but for me, let's talk about gratitude. Like, how do I find gratitude in those in those moments? Because I grew up in Utah, the Mormon cultures around me. They're all about service, gratitude, and I was always aware of it, and always felt like I tried to be grateful, but I know in moments, I wasn't. And so I took this dive. And I don't know if you guys are familiar, I'm sure you are with Bob Proctor, passed away a couple years ago, but he's he's one of the leaders in personal development in 2018 as I started my business, I. Day, 3am woke up, I called the angel hour. I know to listen when I wake up early in the morning like that, and I don't get on electronics in the middle of the night, because I know that I'm up right if I turn on the TV, if I get on my computer. But somehow that night, I ended up on a webinar

that started at 3: 10:14

30am our time. I think he was in somewhere on the other side of the world, doing a rebroadcast, and I heard some information from Bob, and I've been a fan of his. I heard him on the secret most six. I was very familiar with him, and looked up to him, but he explained some things in a way that I'd never heard and especially how the mind works. And it's interesting. One of the tools he uses actually comes from a chiropractor. Dr Thurman fleet, it's a stick figure. I don't know if you guys are familiar with the stick figure, but Dr Thurman fleet was looking as most chiropractors do, let's not try. Let's not treat symptoms. Let's go to the source and let's find out what's going wrong in the body or in the mind that's causing these ailments. And so Bob gave me, and I'll hold it up for you guys. Listeners won't be able to see it, but this is, this is this silly little figure that changed my life. And if you're okay, I'll just demonstrate it, and I'll tell you how I've reprogrammed my mind so I have more moments automatically, then I then I have to consciously tell myself to get in that space. So you know, one of the exercises he does, like right now, Terry, you've never been to my house, but if I described my refrigerator, if I described the tree in my backyard, and we all closed our eyes, we could see my refrigerator. Even though you've been you have a visual in your mind to compare it to, right? Well, if we all close our eyes right now and I say, Please visualize with your mind's eye, what does your mind look like? I've been doing this for five years now, and when I did it, when I closed my eyes, I saw a brain. Some people see angry minions. Some people see file cabinets. Some people say but we don't have a common so if we're trying to work on our mindset and how to get it better, what do we go to? And Bob brought up this, and use this as a mindset tool. And this is how it works. You draw the head big, so you got a big circle head. You put a line in the middle. I've actually, in my diagrams, moved the line up because we put the conscious mind on top, the subconscious mind on bottom, understanding that 5% of our thoughts are conscious, 95% are programmed, patterned, subconscious thoughts. We have the five senses on top of our head, the process information we have our body. And so the way this diagram, and this is really a flow diagram, energy ideas come to us. We use our senses. Our conscious mind accepts or rejects, goes into the subconscious mind, which creates a feeling in the body, which creates an action on the outside world. And when we are programmed from birth to respond outside in right? Something's hot, I don't touch it. I get an F on a report card. I think I'm a bad student, right? We're programmed reverse by society, by life, and at 40 years old, I was broken, and I'd responded too much to the outside and I was starting to believe things. So the subconscious mind holds 95% of our thoughts, feelings, beliefs, values. And for me, I had my biological dad leave me twice by the time I was six years old, emotional impact, right? The mind gets programmed by emotional events or by space, repetition of thought, hearing something over and over again. So when I was 40 years old, starting to go through my midlife awakening, I realized I didn't love myself enough. I didn't trust myself because of all this BS for all these years, I also realized I wasn't grateful enough because I hadn't programmed that as like a pattern that my mind works on. So I spent, you know, in 2014 when I was at my rock bottom. And I call it my trifecta, I rate myself on finances, health and wellness and relationship with self, and I was a two out of 10 on all three of those. I wrote myself a letter, present tense, two pages, my mind, my body, my relationships, my health and wellness, my money, and then put a lot of gratitude. And none of it was true, you guys. It was all complete Not one thing. I was sick, I was broke and I was ready to get divorced in two years. Didn't know it. I wrote everything present tense, as if I changed everything. My mind's clear. I started out with gratitude. My body's happy, healthy. I turned 51 this weekend. I'm prescription free. I'm hormone free. Everything in it then wasn't true, and today it is 2023 was the best year of my life. I made more money than I ever have. I married the love of my life on New Year's Eve at my friend's house in San Clemente, overlooking the Pacific Ocean. He's a legend in my home improvement space. He actually married me at his house, all this stuff I'm kind of rabbling over the place. Once I got this diagram from from Bob, I said, What do you want? Sean and I picked a bigger goal, to build this huge organization that impacts people worldwide, removing self limiting beliefs. And then as I did that, I listened in my subconscious for all the self limiting thoughts that came up that weren't true and weren't mine, and then I created powerful I am statements. They use a lot of polarity to reverse it out of me, and I've been saying those every day. So that was a really long way to answer your question. Spencer, but so every day I am happy, I am grateful, I am hell. I say those things. And then when I get in moments of challenge, because I've been doing it for so long. It comes out of me, gratitude, naturally. Now, now I still have my moments like and we'll talk. We can talk about that. There's still stuff that triggers my old paradigms and I react instead of respond, and that's a whole different conversation. But I'd say 85% of the time I'm able to show up authentically powerfully this way because of repeated affirmation. I mean, this morning, before I got on with you guys, I did my goal, my affirmations, and I did my gratitude. And in that space, I'm now in a vibration, in an inner mindset that I can handle anything that comes out of me today in a better, more powerful way.

Dr. Spencer Baron: 15:35

Sean, what's an I am statement?

Shawn Feurer: 15:38

An I am statement? So and the Moses code. Wayne Wayne Wayne Dyer used to talk about the Moses code. James Twyman is the author of it. This is a great book for listeners to read about the power of the I am statement. But it comes from the Bible. It's the name of God I am, that I am, and we can use that powerful statement and replace that with whatever we're trying to create in our lives. So if I want abundance, I am abundant. I am and I say it every single day, and I am abundant,

Dr. Spencer Baron: 16:10

We would like to thank Stark roast for making the best organic coffee and supporting our efforts to keep you healthy and happy. Click on the link to start enjoying your fresh roast today. So I gotta tell you, I had no no expectation. I was already jazzed when I read a little bit about you, but similar situation in 2009 for me with divorce and a whole bunch of other crap that went on and I to shift my consciousness. Every single night, I would turn on either the secret or the Moses code and wait and and it would I would fall asleep to it. So I absolutely feel that the subconscious was really, really working, and that I am, that I am, and the Moses code being that I love, that I think that is absolutely perfect. And I appreciate you bringing that up and sharing that, because I think that is extremely valuable for those who have not listened to the Moses code. It's not a religious thing. It's it is. It is just the it takes to the secret, or that the the laws of intention, and, you know, it takes it to the next level.

Shawn Feurer: 17:30

100% and it's interesting, because when I met, and I've been so blessed and so fortunate, I became Bob Proctor's out of 2000 worldwide consultants, I became one of his top 20. I got in his inner circle. I got to spend time with him. I got to hear more about the filming of The Secret and how that all. I got to be friends with his son, Brian Proctor, who just wrote a book. Another really good book is my father knew the secret growing up with Bob Proctor, Brian's Brian. Brian that Jack Canfield, after Bob passed away. I've been a fan of Jack's. I reached out to him. I actually attended one of his lecture retreats two years ago, met his VP Patty Aubry, became very good friends with her. Last year, I got invited to facilitate with one of my mentors. I shared the front of the room, ran meditations with Jack Canfield. And so where did all this come from? It came from my im statements. Everybody said, Sean, how are you doing all this? I don't know. The how, I let go of the how, and I lean in, you know, to the things I learned in the Moses code, the I Am statements. You know, so many people, especially in my construction world, I've got contractors, they're like, You want me to look in the mirror and say, I love myself. I said, No, I want you to look in the mirror and say, I am a that's what I want you to say, right? Like, get into the vibration of who you are. Man, I ams are so powerful. I mean, I am grateful. I say I am and for me, as you get success, I don't ever want a big head. I don't ever want to get up in the clouds. So I am humble, I am grateful. I am grounded, I'm lucky, I'm blessed. I like really want to create. And again, you know, the law of attraction. 2006 a secret. Everybody went crazy and thought they could just manifest whatever they wanted. Bob always pointed out, the law of attraction is a secondary law in the universe, in the physical world, and it works in conjunction with the law of vibration. And the law of vibration states that things that are, you know, similar vibrate. You know, tuning fork will will resonate with something that's tuned to that frequency. And the law of vibration, I use, I am statements, to get into the vibration of those feelings that I'm trying to attract. And so I'm very calculated and systemized in working with this energy and working with the power of my mind. So when you wake up in the morning, do you have a mental exercise that you go through, that you complete, like some people meditate, but what do you do? So first thing I do when I wake up and my eyes pop open is I give thanks as part of this too, and I'll get back to this. Sorry, you guys. Oh. I'm a Rambler, but gratitude, so I go to gratitude first thing. But how did I get there? There is a five minute meditation called a grateful day by Brother David. If you Google that, you're going to pull up a five minute little video. I've listened to that every day for five years. I got introduced to a through ball Proctor's organization, and Brother David. He's got an Austrian accent. I love his voice. He's a little slow and methodical, but he says the premise of that video is, when you wake up today, pretend it's your first day. And for me, I go back to 2000 you know, 16. I'm in my parents base when my mom's dying. I say, what if yesterday I was there and I woke up, and this is my first day in this new life, this beautiful new home, this beautiful wife, my bonus daughters, my successful business. If I went from being there to being here, there's no way to be ungrateful. Every challenge is gonna be welcome because I was in such a bad situation. And for people that are maybe in a challenging situation, pretend you were homeless yesterday. Pretend Yesterday you had nothing and we're fighting to survive, and even though we have challenge today, you woke up in this experience, and then Brother David slams this home. He puts a pillar up on this side of it's your first day, and then he puts the second pillar. What if it's your last day? What if this is all you get? Is today. And I've done a lot of I mean, you can play with this energy, but if you really like this morning, I gave gratitude for a day, I pretended I was somewhere else, and I came here, and, you know, my my wife, she's in my work, and she loves it, but sometimes I wake up and scare the crap out of her, so I pretend like it's my first day waking up next to her. Holy babe. We're freak. You're hot. Where'd you come from? What are you doing in my bed? We'll play the energy. I'm your wife. I'm like, No freaking way, you're my wife. God, I have kicked the coverage on this one. Hell yeah, I love this day. Walk downstairs. Look at my kitchen. Oh my god, I yell up, baby. You should see the wood floors in our kitchen. Our kitchen is beautiful, right? And just extreme, and then, oh my gosh, I only get today, and I have to do what's in front of me. Everyone. Everyone always says, Well, Sean, if I did what, I wouldn't work today. No, you have to do today, but you have to do today, not knowing that it might be your last day this podcast. I did my affirmations. I want to get my energy up for you guys. I've got client calls. I'm actually hopping on an airplane heading to Pensacola, Florida at 11:30pm tonight, taking a red eye to go vacation for a couple days. I'm gonna give today everything I have, right? I'm gonna bring it. So listen to that every every day for five years, and I share with my bonus daughters. We listen to it on the way to school. I've got them being more grateful at 12 and 15 than I ever was at their age. So when I wake up, my eyes pop open and I think of brother David saying, your eyes are open, you can see color. And there's so much power in being grateful. There are people that didn't wake up today on this planet, right? There's people that went to sleep last night, and healthy people that went to sleep last night and they passed away in their sleep. And so my first thought every day is, thank you, and that helps, because you know, when you're busy and you're tired, sometimes when you wake up, you're like, oh I just want to go to sleep. I just want to, you know, lay here for a minute. And when I go to gratitude, it helps me hop out of bed. And then I do. I've got a morning ritual where I sauna for 15 minutes. I cold punch for five minutes. When I'm not traveling, I don't miss it. That's, that's my rocket fuel for the day. And as part of that I actually listen to in the sauna. James Twyman and Wayne Dyer both have sound on YouTube. If you look for the I am meditation, it's the sound that's the frequency of the numbers and the letters I Am that I Am. So it's a powerful meditative sound I listen to that. I do my breath work, little meditation. I do my affirmations. I do my worthy goal, what I'm really trying to create, and I get out of that, and at that point I'm complete, like, I don't have to do anything else, but I do like to exercise my information is a lot about health and wellness. So I'll usually do about 30 minutes of a workout, of some some point at that point, but that's how I rock rocket fuel. My day is, you know, goal, affirmation, gratitude, and do it every day. Do it every day like that's a non negotiable for me. You know, we we have this thing called the knowing, doing gap. We know what it takes to get a better, better shape. We don't do it. We know what our wife wants to hear. We don't say it. We know. We know. We know. And we can close that gap that's created by our programming by closing the original gap, which is knowing the thoughts are things, and knowing that a positive thought is better than a negative. I just try and close that gap as much throughout the day as I can. And again, you know, I get I punched a couch once in a while. I mean, I have my moments where it comes out. I'm like, I don't want to be this positive guy. Just want to be an today.

Dr. Spencer Baron: 24:40

I want to ask you about a transformational story, not not yours, but one of your brother or your father that I know the internal shifts that led to an unexpected success. Could you share that with us? You can give people an example?

Shawn Feurer: 25:02

Which one is that?

Dr. Spencer Baron: 25:04

Just a transformational story, maybe something that happened with your dad, or did you or your brother, oryou have a story about or somebody else in the family?

Shawn Feurer: 25:17

Well, I don't know. I mean, this is, this is another challenging story that's happened for me in the last little bit. So I'll just go with this. I'm not sure if this is what you're expecting, but I think it can be powerful. So I was raised by my stepdad. I met him when I was six years old. He saved me and my mom. We were on welfare. My mom was struggling. I had a lot of paradigms put into me about self love and about having to be a man at six years old, and Ralph foyer came in and saved my life like he took care of me and my mom like nobody else, but in the process of my mom dying, he got sick and and his family, his genetics, which I don't share, thank God. I mean, he had high triglycerides, high blood pressure, he never drank, he never smoked. He started having strokes, you know, and this is another layer of heaviness. When I left our family business as partners, he had multiple strokes, and he couldn't he couldn't think straight, and so we started having lots of disagreements, and he passed away in 2021 so my mom died in 17. I always say he died when she left, because that was the love of his life. He got really, really sick. He started having strokes. He got ended up on dialysis, and he took himself off off dialysis, and passed in 2021 so I lost both those two, and then I have a younger brother. That's nine years I'm gonna say was nine years younger than me. That kid was perfect, man. A kid was amazing. I was so jealous of him, like he got to grow up in a house with both parents. Ralph became very successful when I was about 12 years old. We started doing much better. Ryan never saw scarcity. He had both parents. Healso never found himself. He never found purpose. He never found self love. And after years and years and years of struggle, after our dad passed away, he got himself he was addicted to drugs, you know, and we can talk about that. I know he had imbalances in his brain. I know he had some mindset issues that created a lot of bipolar tendencies. But on April 19, I got a phone call at midnight that my homeless brother, he got himself stuck in Vegas for almost three years, passed away. They found him on the side of a gas station in Las Vegas. Not a possession on him. Never had a relationship in his life. He never had a girlfriend. He never had anybody to love. He never loved himself. He had all the opportunity in the world. You know, Ralph care took him to a fault. I mean, Ralph should have cut him off, probably in his mid 20s, and he kept taking care of him and saving him until he was like 40. He didn't get him the help that he probably needed. But, you know, I've had so many discussions with people, when somebody gets into addiction, and especially when somebody gets the point of homelessness, it's so hard for family members, you know, you let them live with you, they're going to steal from you, they're going to you, the disease of addiction is so powerful that there's not not much that you can do. So I, you know those three stories, you know, my mom never loved herself, never found purpose, left us with Alzheimer's. Ralph was an amazing man. He was very negative by nature. He was a doomsdayer. You know, as his business partner, for 20 years, I had to put up on the positivity shield every day. Positivity shield every day, because I'd come in and he'd be telling me, we need to go get more food storage, more ammunition, more water. I believe in all that, but not to the extreme that he did. And I actually want to write a book one day about just his life, because he was so toxic in this doomsday stuff that I literally believe that caused his demise. Because he shouldn't have had all those health issues. He was healthy. He never smoked, he never drank. He was very active, faithful LDS member, and he left us with negativity. And I go to my brother's story. Here's a blonde hair, brown eyed, handsome kid, smart as attack the leftist world at 42 years old. So, I'm the one that gets to succeed, because I, you know, my mom impressed anxiety onto us. She impressed lack of self love she didn't mean to us. Was impressed on her. It was impressed on her mom, her mom, her mom. And so for me, my story today is I found my self, love and confidence, and in 2014 I wasn't suicidal, but I didn't want to be here anymore, and I almost caved into to the same self and beliefs that I think my mom and my brother ended up leaving us because So my purpose and passion for my business today and for helping people is in their memory. Like, I don't want another beautiful human being like my brother to end up not loving himself, trust himself, and dying alone on the side of a gas station. Like that's that's, to me, a true tragedy. I mean, we live in such an abundant world. We have so many resources, we have so much love available to us, that I just hate that anybody, anybody has to have an experience like like he had, and again, we choose our own path. We can go through all the different things, and I've definitely done that. But. Yeah, I don't know that was the story you're looking for Spencer, but that's been, been my experience with my immediate family members. You know, I grew up with two sisters, one brother. We've lost half our family in a seven year period. My poor sisters are obviously a little bit more emotional than me, because they're female and, you know, they're really in it right now. It's like, why is this happening to us? And I just keep having to say, You know what? It's happening for us? I don't. I don't know why on some of these things, but we have to really lean into there's only three of us left. Let's love each other. Let's support each other. Let's be the small family unit that we are, and try and create a better life. Since we're all still here, right?

Dr. Spencer Baron: 30:34

I hear a lot about enabling. Parents that are enablers to their kids that end up losing the muscles of control in the sense that they can, you know, it's good to go through tough times. It's good to go at it. I always tell my kids, the the best thing you can go through is heartbreak and being broke at an early age, because then you develop some toughness. You know, do you think that was a result of how your brother ended up that way?

Shawn Feurer: 31:02

Yeah, yeah. And that's, and that's where I do give gratitude, because I had struggle, right? Me and him, grew up very similarly after he was born. Because I had both. I had his dad and my mom. We both, but before that, I had my dad leave two times, two times. We were on welfare. I had some struggle as a long child. And, you know, human beings were resilient. You know, they talk about the story of a baby chick, if you break it out of its shell, it will most likely die because they didn't get the strength and needed for life by breaking out of the shell. And, you know, I definitely had to break out of a lot of shells, and he didn't. And you're exactly right, he was enabled. And you know, for me, I've got four adult children that, you know, they had a pretty cush life. I tried to instill a lot of these things, but the divorce really traumatized them, and they're all in their 20s, and they're all struggling a bit financially, and it's a tough world for 20 year olds right now it is. Prices are really high, wages are low, if you're not doing something entrepreneurial on your own. And I've been helping all four of them since they were teenagers, a little bit with insurance, with things, and I'm to the point where I need to cut them off, but I'm having that eternal I love being to hear from you guys, because I know the balance of you want to support and love your kids, but you also don't want to enable them, so they end up like my little brother, enabled to the point of he wasn't capable, right? I mean, he literally wasn't capable of holding a job, of being responsible for anything, because he'd had so much assistance up to that point.

Dr. Terry Weyman: 32:22

You know, before we go in, that I want to complete the circle. And what's a DNA from your father, your biological father?

Shawn Feurer: 32:31

So he is going to be, I can't remember how old he is, but he's 72 I think this year his and again, it was crazy. The story I didn't get to know him. Growing up, my mom was so angry she cut every picture of him out of every family photo. So, you know, as a teenager, I didn't always know what the guy looked like, and I did always have that little hole of I at least like to know my dad. So when I was 25 years old, his father, my grandfather who I didn't get to know. The divorce was so ugly, I got removed from that whole side of the family. My grandpa was a police chief of Murray, Utah. He was a state Patriarch in the Mormon he was a badass dude, and I wanted to know Him. So when I was 25 I drove to his house to knock on the door, and he didn't answer. My dad did. My dad was staying with him because he was in Salt Lake, and so my dad opened the door when I was 18. I'd wrote my dad a letter that actually got to him, that I said, If I ever saw him, I'd tell him to off. Well, in this first moment to see him, guess what I did? I gave him a big old hug. I was like, Holy that's my dad. I didn't even know what he was gonna look like, and I could tell looking at his eyes, I'm like, This is my dad. And so I just reached out, put my arms around him. We embraced, and you know, that's been 26 years ago, and we've had a really good relationship. It's taken a while to heal and work through things. I got to know my grandma grandpa, who both passed away in the last few years, but they lived into their 80s. My grandma was in her 90s. My dad's 72 he's in great he's in great physical health, as far as you know, blood pressure, cholesterol. So I do have really good genetics on my dad's side.

Dr. Terry Weyman: 34:03

You know, it's kind of interesting sitting back and listening to this that how the world kind of works, because, again, like I'm I'm just sitting back and and hearing this conversation, and your mom through a divorce cut her kids away from her dad. Your wife through a divorce cut the kids away from their dad. I mean, it's like this circle, and that you are coming about it from a different you have now empathy, because you were the kid that was cut out, and now you've been the dad that's been cut out. And so it's kind of interesting how the world kind of works and and the good news is, you complete a circle with your father, and hopefully your kids the circle gets complete with their father. So what are you've gone through all size, being the child and now the parent. What strategies are you forming from this? This, this was called bipolar, this bipolar incident that it's two different, two different emotions for. Different size. What's your strategies that you're forming?

Shawn Feurer: 35:03

So it's interesting. I love you're very intuitive. I love that you heard that because it's kind of like a mirror. When I look at it, right? It's like, oh my gosh, my life with my kids and moving forward is a mirror. I married my high school sweetheart. That's why I divorced my dad. My mom was his high school sweetheart. I mean, when you go deeper into the layers of the onion there. There's so many synchronicities in there. And so I've just shifted and Bob Proctor in the work that I do, he always taught me, you don't attract what you want to attract who you are. And so my strategy has been to be the son to my father that I want my children to be to me if I, if I, can't control them. I mean, I tried and I reached out, and I don't get it reciprocated, and they have the paradigms, the programming, you know, that their mom asked me for a divorce, and then when we finally went through with it, I got falsely accused of cheating. I'd given her half a million dollars. She told the kid she was broke and that I was playing a vacation. And all these lies had this emotional impact, and they're like, that's a son of a And I have a hard time overcoming that. They're gonna and and listen to this, I was told my dad cheated, and I now know his beautiful wife, and I don't believe he cheated. I believe there was, you know, and I've done a lot of study myself on this. When somebody amazing leaves your life, it's really hard to say it was your fault, and so you have to have somebody to blame it on to feel better. And I think in a lot of divorces, there's these false stories that are told to take responsibility of the individuals. I played 50% of the part of my divorce. I own that right. I create the things I didn't like in my ex wife. I created, I allowed, I enabled. I take 100% responsibility, but I won't take responsibility for the other side. So going back to how I handle it, my dad, my biological dad, I text and call him where he has two biological kids with his new wife. He has two stepdaughters from her previous marriage, and he has me and my sister. He's told me multiple times. He hears from me more than any of them. I call him every year on his birthday. I text him on every holiday, anytime he lives in St. Georgetown, by Maddie B anytime I'm in southern Utah, I make it a point to go and see him. And it's been it's been challenging because he hasn't reciprocated. All the time. He'll come up to Salt Lake and see his biological son, some of his other relatives, and I'll see on social media that he was here and didn't come see me, and I used to get affected by that. I don't anymore. I'm like, You know what? I have to like. I only control me, and I'm going to give my effort to build my side of the relationship. And then I'm hoping, since most of my life has been a mirror, that eventually my children will somehow Mirror mirror that relationship. Now I want to share one of the things I just had this come to me in the last two weeks, and I'm more spiritual than I am religious, but I definitely believe in my heavenly Father, and I know he loves and supports me. And I was in my basement, finishing working out, and I was laying there, and I was like, I wish my four kids knew how much I was here to support him. I wish they would lean into me. I wish. I wish. And then I sat there, and I thought, and I literally looked up at the ceiling in my basement. I'm like, I hear you. God, you're saying the same thing, aren't you? You're watching me struggle and saying, I'm here for you, Sean, all you have to do is come to me. Oh, that's heavy. I'm here for you, Sean, I hope you lift it. And so besides mirroring my relationship with my dad to what I want, I've now in the last couple weeks, when I do my gratitude, I don't thank me for anything. I give my praise to my heavenly Father, who everything I have comes through him. And when I was in my darkest moments, given all this gratitude, I could have done an even better job of leaning on him. You know, we try and do the heavy lifting, and nobody lifts heavy things better for me than God. So I'm really mirroring the relationship I want with my children, with my relationship with God, if I, you know, eat crow and be humble and ask for help. And the other thing too, this came to me too. My kids do reach out to me if they need something, right? If they need money, if they need help with someone. I do hear from them for that, and I'm like, Oh, God feels the same way. Sean only prays to Me when he's asking for something. He doesn't make a regular habit of thanking me for things. So I'm trying to thank more, ask less same with my dad. Just be grateful. I don't care how he shows up. And hopefully, between those two powerful fathers that I'm mirroring the relationship with them trying to be what I want to attract, I'm hoping eventually I can get those kiddos of mine back into the fold and showing up the same way that I would like to show up for them.

Dr. Terry Weyman: 39:19

Well, you've answered it, but I'm going to have you go back and make it concise, because I'm looking at your logo. Okay, your logo is infinity, but two points are not connected, and so it's you're, you've almost, it's almost like you, you, you talked about the mirror, you, you've been in two places, both father and son, and you're coming back around, but you're not there yet. And that's what I read from your logo. You're coming back around but you're not there yet, because that's why that they're not connected. And so with that, we have these deep, unproductive habits we get in. These, we call them, beginning the subconscious paradigms. What is your strategy to connect those to break out of that rut. So many people are stuck in a rut, to make that change, to connect those two lines. Give us a sentence, how you're going to connect those lines and get your kids, you and and other strategies for people out of the rut.

Shawn Feurer: 40:26

That's a deep question now, now you're making my logo has a lot of thought into it, and that's actually a sideways s that looks like an infinity sign. That's why it's broken. Is because it's an S for my name, the eight. Let me explain that to the eight dots are for abundance, and the shield is for protection, because I try and protect people from their own mind. And then the infinity symbol, even though it's broken, is because I want to build long time, long term, ongoing relationships, you know, to connect the dots for me, I shared with you I'm trying to do. I'll be honest, I don't have the answer. I don't I don't know what to do. I feel like I've tried everything in my conscious awareness. I feel like I've used I am statements to program it. And this is where I am leaning on God. I call it let go and let god. I'm just looking for the divine inspiration. I mean, it's been interesting a couple times over the last year when I reached reached up instead of out. I've had one of my kids reach out to me just to say, I love you, or just so I've seen some small cracks where I'm like, okay, I can just lean up and I don't have to reach out all the time. And I'm kind of trying to trust that. And even even going back, you know, the strategy I use Terry is, I always go to this diagram, and am I trying to work out here? And if I'm working out here, if I don't like the result, like my kids, if I if I reach out to them, they don't respond. Or my birthday is coming up, if they don't text me, and I feel like and then I don't reach out to them for a little while. I'm reacting to results I don't like in the energy of the result I don't like. And so I recreate it. So I am always trying to put up an energetic shield between the result I don't like and looking at what's the program or paradigm that's creating that. And that's where I think I'm answering your question. That's where we break the cycle, you know, for me, you know, I was in scarcity when I was on welfare as a little kid, I used to wear my neighbors, my friends, clothes, and they used to tease me, and we used to, you know, have to ask for handouts. And I hated that. I'm like, I'm never. That's part of my drive. I'm never. And I've never had my hand out until I was broke in 2014 you know. And part of the, part of the story, my ex wife got a lot of money initially, and my my stepdad, Ralph, who raised me, was supposed to give me. He gave, he gave my ex more than he took me him. Were partners on the deal, and I was supposed to get a sliver,$50,000 which I was going to use to get started, because I give him, you know, almost half a million to to my ex. And the day before signing, he pulled it from me. He had his strokes. He was and he's like, I don't feel good about this. And he didn't call me. He had the investor call me. So I didn't even get my dad call me. So I and he made a commitment to my ex wife that she was gonna get her money, and the night before, he told me I had to call her and tell her that I was gonna take 50 out of hers. And I said, I can't do that. I'm a man of my word. So I ate Crow, so I went into scarcity one more time, and I just lost my train of thought. Where was I going with this?

Dr. Spencer Baron: 43:27

You were fired up. I don't know that's good.

Shawn Feurer: 43:29

I don't know where I was. I don't know where I was going with that. I just lost it, man, I didn't keep that in the episode, because that's, that's funny mindset. Guy lost his mind.

Dr. Spencer Baron: 43:37

That's all right. Actually, I wanted to, I wanted to focus on something that I thought would be really, really keen, and that is The Giving Tree. You use that story as a metaphor, and I really would like to hear more about it, because it's that just reading that little children's book puts tears in my eyes. It's, it's, it's pretty powerful. So how do you apply that to leadership and mentorship?

Shawn Feurer: 44:05

Yeah, and it's so interesting because I didn't, I didn't see myself as a giving tree. And whenever I would talk words like that, like, like with with my ex, and even with my with Ralph as my business partner, and I was like, I'm giving so much, and I just want a little bit back, and I don't feel like I'm getting it, I would always get called selfish. Get called selfish, and I was passive aggressive, and I was a freaking martyr and all this And it was, it was after I was divorced, I moved down to Southern Utah for a year, and one of one of my twin daughters came with me, and we had a lot of deep you know, I did build some, rebuild some really good connection with her at that time, but she's the one that said to me, she goes, Dad. I kind of feel like you were like The Giving Tree in that story. You kind of gave a lot of way, and you kind of ended up like a stump. And that hit me, and I look back and you think about like as a young child, my mom was broke, man. My dad leaving her, crushed her, and I could never take from her. I. She loved me more than life, but I was always sensitive. I remember when I first got married, one of my aunts said, Sean, you've got to break your relationship with your mom, or you're gonna have trouble with your wife. You put your mom before everything. And I did that because I was so grateful. And then, you know, Ralph came in when I was six years old and saved us. You know, he told me that he dropped he was a 4.0 student of the U and he dropped out to marry my mom, John. I want to get a degree. I wanted a degree, but I got a degree for him everything, and even when I was ready to leave the family business, right before my meltdown, I'd stayed in a business I didn't really like, and I didn't like being partners with him, because I felt obligated, because he came in. And so I look, you know, give, give, give. And in hindsight, I was giving because I had a hole inside of me, and I was hoping to get it someone in return. I was hoping to get love back. I was hoping to get validation back. And so, you know, when I left my marriage, and this isn't again, I can still hear some other people's paradigms. Oh, you're part thing. You're such a but little I left my marriage, all my kids had brand new skis. Their mom had skis. I had, you know, 15 year old skis, 15 year old golf clubs, like I didn't have a lot of the latest greatest because I was taking care you know, my dad and mom. I'd go to their house. I just look at all this abundance I built for everybody else, but I didn't take care of me. So my analogy is, if you're trying to take care of everybody else and you're not taking care of yourself, you're gonna run out of gas. You're gonna you're gonna end up a stump. And one of the hardest things for anybody that works just me to wrap their head around, especially if they're a people pleaser or a real giving, is you got to give yourself an hour a day. You have to fill your own bucket if you want to feel into others all day, every day. And it seems counterintuitive, but I hear people all the time say I feel selfish. I'm like, guess who got I got called selfish by my whole exercise of the family, by friends. I mean, I can't remember times Sean's so selfish. Look at him. He's just traveling and doing all these things, and he's not caring about his ex wife and kids. And it's like, no, just for the first time in my life, and that's a crazy thing when you're a really big giver, and you stop giving just a little bit the people that are benefiting. It's an extreme withdrawal for them. And so, yeah, I use an analogy of the airplane. I can't tell you how many moms I've asked you know, if you're on an airplane and it's going down, will you listen to the instruction to put yours on first? And most of them say, no, they're gonna take care of their kids first, right? And they don't just do that in that analogy, they do that in everyday life, and that ends up with sometimes spoiled kids, sometimes entitled, but more importantly, it ends up with a with a mom or a father who's just given way too much. So yeah, I'm a big proponent of be selfish, so you can be selfless, right? Fill your bucket. And that's where we go back to I am worthy goal, prayer and gratitude, so I can feel full of love. And you know, with my four kids, I want a better relationship, but any interaction I have, I'm not looking for the validation anymore. I'm trying to just give love, give acceptance, see them for who they are, okay. They don't show up the way I want them to. Okay. They're not picking a profession that I would pick that's okay. I still love them because I love myself, so that's really how I've applied the given tree.

Dr. Spencer Baron: 48:06

Thanks for that. I want to ask you about a real important aspect of self, love and worthiness. How do you train someone to accept and embrace their value and their worth so they become fulfilled enough to provide that same feeling to others.

Shawn Feurer: 48:31

Great, great question Spencer, and that's probably one of the biggest things I dive into in the Moses code in the back of the book, James Toyman has the 10 keys for manifesting in the 10 blocks. And the number one block is unworthiness. The number one block is we don't deserve what we're asking for. So that's one of the biggest things I work on, and my program does this in a pretty extended process, right? But when somebody starts thinking about something they really want that they have no idea, and they start uncovering some of their negative thought patterns. I like I say, you know, all of us on this, on this podcast today, if we made a list of all of our self limiting beliefs, and we threw them on the wall like spaghetti, there's one foundational that's at the bottom for all of us, and it's enoughness. It's enoughness everything we're told. You know, when I played soccer, if I scored three goals, I should have scored six. If I got a B plus I should have got A A. We're programmed from the outside in that we're not enough in every situation. So worthiness, self love comes from working there first. So anybody I work with and listeners, if you want to start making some changes on the outside of your world every day, say, I am enough. I am always enough. I've always been enough. And that's a that's a starting point for enoughness from the subconscious mind. Now the worthiness, you know, and for human beings, you know, there's the emotional scale of there's only two emotions, positive and negative. On the negative side, there's anger, fear, jealousy, depression, on. The positive side. There's joy, love, gratitude, right, right, right. There's a scale. But for most people, they've got a negative emotion around blame and shame. They blame themselves for things in the past. They shame themselves for things in the past. They blame others and shame others, and that's all negative emotion which creates negative vibration, which keeps you from attracting that which you are. I mean, I've seen people do a lot of themselves, attract a new partner, and the partners got a bunch of damage, a bunch of garbage with them. It's because of the garbage damage that was still attached to them. And so really energetically, it's like forgiveness. Forgiveness like work on self love with enoughness, and work on self love with letting go of the past. Forgiving. You know, once I have somebody to a point where they understand how this programming and paradigms work. I say, if we go back in time and we look at this thing that you said was a mistake, would it be a fair statement that you did the best you could in that moment with the programming and paradigms that you had at the time? And for most people, it's actually yes. You know, my biological father, he left when I was two. He came back up when I was six. He did the best he could. That's how I get forgiveness. He didn't know how to handle my mom. She was she was a handful. I'll give him that. He got himself into financial trouble where he couldn't afford the back child support, and my new dad, Ralph, offered to forgive him of everything if he let him adopt me. And so he did the best he could, and I didn't know all the reasons, but once I go back and say, Okay, why would I could never do that to Mike. I couldn't, I can't, but he could, but it was the best he could in that moment. So if we look at anything in any of our lives, and we go back to the moment that this challenging thing happened, and we say, you know, some people say, if I go back in time, I'd do it different. No, you wouldn't, because you'd have to say you have different paradigms. Now, you have different thoughts. Now, if you go back, then you'd be stuck in that old mindset, and you'd make the exact same decision. Again, as stupid as it was, as consequential. You know, for me, I should have never built the million dollar house that I did, that I lost in oh eight. I remember leaving the mortgage company on oh seven, when they were handing out mortgages like they were free cookies, I got a stated income loan that said I made twice what I made, and I had enough equity I thought that I could make up for it. Should have never done that. But even with this, knowing if you put me back in that Dodge truck I was getting into, I'd have the same thought, This is too easy, but I'm still going to do it anyway, right? Because I did the best I could with, you know, up to that point, I'd rolled house after house. I'd never seen a great recession. I didn't even think it existed. I thought, you know, the great, great depression was one time event. I'm not gonna have to worry about cash flow. I'm always gonna have 200 bucks when I pass go. Until I didn't,

Dr. Spencer Baron: 52:40

it's great. These, these subconscious paradigms that you refer to, you know they are deeply ingrained in some people, and it's really, you know, a challenging task first, first is to identify it, and even know you have that, that tape that plays in your head, then to change that tape is really difficult, just for the listeners out there, and selfishly myself, you know,

Shawn Feurer: 53:10

how hard is it to retrain someone's mindset? And do you have any suggestion that someone could start how they can start doing that? Yeah, yeah. And in the work I do, it is one of the most challenging things, because each one of us have these programs and paradigms adult service, and each one of us had either different space repetition of thought or we had different emotional events. And so it really comes down to, how do I become aware of these and how do I, how do I, how do I reprogram them, you know, for the mindset work that I do, let me I want to do. And for anybody listening, if you hold your hands up and you guys just, just hold your hands, if you can for me. And then I want you to just clasp, without thinking about it, just clasp them. And then I want you to notice which thumbs on top your right or your left, left. Okay, mine's my right. It always is. Now change at one finger, so the opposite thumb is on top. So strange. That's how, that's how programmed as a human being you are. You try and move your fingers one over, and it says, Go back. Go back to safety, go back to security. Go back to what you know. You know. Yeah, that that's when somebody's stuck and I can't get him unstuck. I pull this out. I say, you can't move your finger, one finger, and you're trying to get in better shape, make more money and do 30 things, and your subconscious is saying, you. Just, just stay how you are. That's too much change. I can't even change your fingers one I'm not doing any of that. you. you, you. And then we go straight down the path of mediocrity, right? Yeah.

Dr. Terry Weyman: 54:50

So I'm gonna be seeing Spencer doing that for the next five podcasts. He's gonna

Unknown: 54:59

be, yeah.

Shawn Feurer: 55:00

Better. So if you want, if you want a new rub, do with the opposite opposite five times a day for 30 days and see what happens, you'll start doing a different or at least it won't feel weird. That's how I reprogram paradigms. Sonia Sean, you're a piece of Dad. I wrote, I am a great father. I am a great husband. For five years before I met my new wife every day, because I had such a strong rub that I wasn't, and I've been proven. My kids weren't talking to me. My ex was throwing hate at me for everywhere. It's like, you must be a guy, right? I started to believe it. It was emotional event. I heard. I got lots of texts that said, You're such a Dad. You're such a human you think you're a motivational guy. So I started to be like, Oh, maybe I'm not as good at this as I think I am, right? And so my hand gesture, I am a good husband, I am a good father, I'm a good human, right? And so it was spaced. Now another tip or trick that will help you is God gave our mind two primary jobs to override every other job. Your mind is designed by our Creator to keep you efficient and to keep you safe. That's why it goes to programs, because it creates efficiency in programs. I don't have to think about how I'm gonna put my pants on. I'm a bald man. I don't think about how to shave my head. It's a programmed response, and it does that for efficiency. The safety part of it is where the old ruts come up. Because if you're going down the road and mine, sees something that reminds that of something from the past that was dangerous, even if it's not dangerous today, it's gonna start beeping at you and it's gonna warn you, and that's what keeps people from going off into growth, because the mind is always trying to keep you safe. I've got two analogies I use here that I'll share for listeners, and I love analogies. They help me reframe things. I have a Land Rover, a defender. It's one of my favorite vehicles I've ever owned. It's got a warning system on it. Every morning when I hop in and put it in reverse, I go to back out, it beeps at me. I'm not going to hit the door jam. It knows I'm not going to hit the door jam, but I'm close enough as I drive out that it beeps and I every morning I don't disable that because that reminds me, John, your mind's gonna beep at you all day, and it's just like your vehicle. It's trying to keep you safe, but sometimes it's trying to keep you from safe from something you're aware of that isn't really a danger, that isn't really a threat, so just ignore the beeping. And for my subconscious mind, sometimes when it starts beeping, I say, cancel, cancel. I don't have to cancel. Shut the up. Cancel. Cancel. Give me a better thought, right? And if I cancel, cancel enough, just like I ignore the beeping when I pack out the garage. Thank you, and I give gratitude. I'm glad I have a mind that will warn me, I'm just not going to listen to it all the time, because a lot of times, you know, most of our programming comes from other people and isn't ours. And so you think about it, you know, I did 40 years of life being afraid of things that weren't true and weren't mine. I refuse to do that anymore. I identify, you know, fear isn't real. Danger is is there danger? I look in my rearview mirror, nope. I'm going straight, keep beeping, but there's no danger behind me. I'm gonna, I'm gonna safely pull out of the driveway, and I'm gonna get on my way. So just the first step in taking control your mind is awareness, awareness of how it works, awareness of why it does what it does, awareness of how programmed it is. And once I have awareness, then I can start systematically. And you know, you say, what programming should I change? Look at the result. If the results are good, you got a bad program there. If the results pretty good, you can have a better program. If the results great, keep doing what you're doing. You know, if I look at my health and wellness right now, I've got a pretty good program. I'm gonna, I'm gonna maintain it my relationships, I've got a pretty good program, except for where I want to prove it with my kids. I'm looking at the programming with my kids, right? It's very systematic. You know, Bob, Bob Proctor used to say, you know, what program, what paradigm should you work on? First? What are you the most upset with right now? What's, what's the most, the biggest pain in your life, where you're like, I don't like that result. And then I reverse engineer. And as I reverse engineer, I'll come up with some of the I'm not the things I'm you're, you know, that's another thing. Spencer people say they don't like affirmation work as they're negatively affirming themselves all day, every day. You're not smart enough, you're not good enough that that's affirmation. It's just automatic because it's been programmed into you. We're trying to reverse that with some new program thoughts, some new I have statements. I love it. That is absolutely fantastic. It's simple and it makes a lot of sense. Hey, Sean, we're going to end up with something that we happen to have a lot of fun with, and I think you're going to do real well with it, it's called our rapid fire questions, and there's five of them. And now here's the biggest challenge for you, is you got to answer them briefly, but everybody else starts to go into this long harangue, so I'll try to interrupt you with the next question. Are you ready? All right. Get ready. All right. I'm ready.

Dr. Spencer Baron: 59:41

Question number one, what is your best mental tip to get you out of a rut?

Shawn Feurer: 59:49

Best mental tip to get me out I memorized the mathematical equation to stay in control in any situation, e plus is r equals O events we have no control over reaction, response, we do how. We respond, creates the outcome. So any event that happens, it's not good, it's not bad, it just is. I pause instead of mostly reacting, I try and respond, and I create a better outcome, and I have a memorized so my clients have a tattooed on them, e plus r equals L, control the outcome by controlling the response.

Dr. Terry Weyman: 1:00:19

That was

Dr. Spencer Baron: 1:00:20

absolutely fantastic. Boy, you went way past my expectations on that one. That was really good. All right. Question number two, if you had to compare your therapy style to a dance move, what would it be and why

Shawn Feurer: 1:00:36

my therapy style to a dance move? Um, the moonwalk. We're just finding our way to better results. I don't have to look I'm programming my mind. I'm just moonwalking, man. I'm full. I'm doing this I don't care what the outside world says. I'm in my mind and I'm like Michael Jackson. I'm gonna shake my wrist and I'm just gonna moonwalk my way to success.

Dr. Spencer Baron: 1:00:58

I love that. Why did, why did I know he was going to be good at this? This is question number three, that is fantastic. If you had to prescribe a laugh a day, as you know, obviously a mental health boost. Which comedian would you recommend and why?

Shawn Feurer: 1:01:18

Oh, a laugh a day. I oh my gosh, you stumped me with that one.

Dr. Spencer Baron: 1:01:27

I doubt that. I bet you come up with somebody.

Shawn Feurer: 1:01:32

I don't know why the Eddie Murphy like, and I've been listening to comedy for all years, but I Yeah, Eddie Murphy, raw. Okay, here's, here's why. Eddie. Eddie, you said he had a little skit that he would do, and he would talk about Ralph and Norton from the honeymooners. And my dad's name was Ralph and his business partner was Norton. And he'd say, hey, Ralphie boy, why don't you come over there? And I was like, Holy that's my dad and my dad's partner. And so every time I would go into the office if I was mad at them, I was just thinking, hey, there's Ralph and Norton again.

Dr. Terry Weyman: 1:02:04

That's great. Terry, what comedian Do you favor? You know, I'm on a, I'm not a Kevin Hart kick right now, yeah, just he cracks me up.

Shawn Feurer: 1:02:14

Oh, you know what? Can I have a second answer if you haven't watched Tom Brady's roast? Nikki Glaser had me rolling on the floor. She's probably my number one. When she says that to tell Donald Trump, Tom Brady, he can't do something, he'll do better, better than ever. And then she said, Tom, you can't make you can't get me off.

Dr. Terry Weyman: 1:02:34

She was brilliant. She She hit. She was up that whole show. She was brilliant. Yes, that was magic. She did an amazing job. Magic. Agree, I like the old stuff. Rodney Dangerfield was one of my favorites. I was gonna say, Rodney, change your field, but I'm the hurt kick right now. But yes, Rodney Dangerfield, yes, yes, there's one liners. They were absolutely brilliant. Well, thinking of Ronnie, that thing's back to Richard Pryor. I can't remember what movie is the scene where Richard Pryor is flipping him off, and he's doing like every gesture he knows we're flipping somebody off, beat up one Robin Williams,

Unknown: 1:03:15

that guy could take a topic and just go on. Yeah, yes, he was, he was beyond brilliant. All right. Question number four,

Dr. Spencer Baron: 1:03:27

all right. So Sean, if you could instantly gain it any new skill from a movie character to help your clients? Who would it be? And why?

Shawn Feurer: 1:03:41

Superpower?

Dr. Spencer Baron: 1:03:43

There you go.

Shawn Feurer: 1:03:44

I'm just gonna say Superman. I'm just gonna say Superman. That's the first thing that comes to mind. I I know so many powerful men that think they're weak, that don't see their self love, that don't see their superpowers. And one of my modules is unlocking your superpowers of imagination, perception, intuition and vulnerability. And I just think of Superman like, you know, if my clients could see how powerful, could see that they could fly, see that they were strong, as still can see they were bulletproof from the inside out, that would be my biggest gift to anybody I work with.

Dr. Terry Weyman: 1:04:12

See, I always thought, you know, Spider Man, because people always run away from me. So I want to be a web I'm gonna bring him back.

Dr. Spencer Baron: 1:04:22

Giving figure out why they're running away from you first. It's easier just to web them to bring it back. Yeah, I want to change your deodorant. I don't know

Shawn Feurer: 1:04:34

well. Spencer, what's yours? What would yours be?

Dr. Spencer Baron: 1:04:39

You know, it's funny. I asked you the question, but I didn't even come up with it. Come up with an answer for myself. That's okay. You're not supposed to. I've always been fascinated by Captain America for some reason. Just ever since I was a kid. I thought Captain America was the coolest, you know, but, but, you know, Iron Man was always part of the Yeah, you. You know, it was it just, just the way Iron Man, the way he stands with such personal power, you know, I think that that's just you and I try to teach, you know, kids. I try to teach some of my patients that, you know, we're chiropractors, that posture is is a much more potent, uh, physical manifestation, because it sends positive messages to your brain. But you could walk with personal power and people will, will, will, will notice and that the people that are that are negative, or they may not approach you because they're afraid, you know. So anyway, I just think posture is such a thing. Yeah, I thought, I thought you were going to say Bruce Lee, because you're always using an analogy. You need to be a black belt in in adjusting. So I figured you would say Bruce Lee.

Unknown: 1:05:53

Spencer.

Shawn Feurer: 1:05:54

I'm going to ask you, though, because you're right, posturing does do things, and the Superman pose, and I've listened to Tony Robbins talk about the Superman polls, increases testosterone in men, right? If you pose a certain way. So that's another reason for my men, I'd like them to be Superman so they can naturally raise those things that our society's eking out of us, right? We turn this into super, super pansies instead of Superman, right? Oh, I'm glad you brought that up. That's so true. Perfect question number five, the last one Sean is, can you share a quirky but effective stress relief method you've encountered, maybe something even you were skeptical about initially, but then seems to work best for you. I'm trying to think. Laughter, is the best medicine for stress, but I don't know. I'm not always the best at creating laughter, so I don't know what I have a technique. One thing that I that I use for me, and it's I get stressful in physical things to do, right? Like your desk is piled up. You've got so much to do. And I have just a little quirky thing that I became of my own because my, because my my wife came when she teases me all the time, because I I'm really smart and I'm really active in the spiritual and in the mindset world, but in the physical world, I lose my keys. We're driving somewhere, been 10 times. And so anytime I'm like that, I just say, stupid physical like, the stupid physical world won't keep up with me. And I'm thinking too big sometimes. And so I just, am always joking. You know, if she calls me out because I did something wrong in the physical world, I just say stupid physical. I kind of pretend like I'm like a Superman. I'm above the physical laws. And I hate it when this stupid physical gets in my way, it's like, no, wasn't supposed to go that way. I had to all mapped out my mind. Why does it happen that way? Or, God, why don't pay attention to where my keys are? I don't give a I just want them to be where they are and be ready to go. So I guess that's a stupid physical, stupid physical

Dr. Spencer Baron: 1:07:45

that's great. Actually, a quirky thing that I used to do when I was in a funk, and I would let the shower run on my head, and I would just, I would, I must have said, for five minutes, I feel good, I feel great. I feel good. I feel great. And I would, actually, I just read something in New York Times about talking to yourself that there, as we get older, it actually we verbalize it.

Shawn Feurer: 1:08:08

I've been doing that for a long time. It's almost like there's another person in the room. But yeah, I try to brainwash myself. You believe it? Yeah, I love that. I mean, what? One other thing with that, too? And going back to what this whole, whole episode has been about, when I'm stressed, like, you know, I'm traveling and I've got a keynote speaking engagement, I wake up that morning, under my head a little bit. I hop in the shower, I turn on Eminem, or one of my favorite songs, and I do my affirmations in the shower. And it's so funny because, you know, you think you might be embarrassed, my wife's in the room, Caitlin loves it. She She loves when she hears me screaming my affirmations about how I'm big energy, I'm as You know, I'm Forever Young, I'm happy. And then I get out and I dance. I dance like a crazy man. I move that energy through me, and I just dance around and act like a freaking idiot. So I get all that stress out of me, and I can just focus on what I'm trying to do that day.

Dr. Spencer Baron: 1:09:00

That's good. You seem to live all this the ends of the emotional spectrum. And I and then you squeeze the juice out of life. You know, for when you were the most down in the dumps, you're also you could have an emotional high. And I really appreciate that. I relate to it. And I think that's fantastic that you, thank you. Pull yourself out of the shitter. And really, I love that you're like that you probably laugh hard and cry hard too. So congratulations for that that's been, I think that's that's been a real man. So thank you for sharing, man, thank you for being on on our show. I, I, I know our audience is going to feel your energy and thank you for being there. Thank you so much. Thanks. Thank you for giving me an opportunity. I've shared. I've had a lot of challenges, and I know every single day, so many of us wake up to challenge, to heartache, to loss, to the things and just one last thing, when your heart's being shredded, it's like your bicep, it's going to get bigger. And my heart's.

Shawn Feurer: 1:10:00

Been shredded quite a few times, and I just lean into the fact that I have one of the strongest hearts of any man you'll ever meet. It gives me compassion, it gives me empathy, it gives me strength. And you know, every time it gets shredded, I just think of the gym. I'm like, Oh my God. I'm like, the Grinch. This heart is just gonna get bigger and bigger. So lean into that. If you're doing some heart, I can struggle right now, because it does get better, and you will be stronger on the other side of it, awesome buddy. Thank you. Love it, man. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you guys for having me.

Dr. Spencer Baron: 1:10:32

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