Steven Travers has been working in the Hypnotherapy /Hypnopsychotherapy and in the field of Havening Techniques for well over a decade and more. In today's podcast, we hear Stephen tell us he is results-oriented. That is, he is dedicated to getting the best results possible for his many happy clients. We hear All of this and much more on today's Professional Hypnotherapists Podcast.
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Steven Travers has been working in the Hypnotherapy /Hypnopsychotherapy and in the field of Havening Techniques for well over a decade and more. In today's podcast, we hear Stephen tell us he is results-oriented. That is, he is dedicated to getting the best results possible for his many happy clients. We hear All of this and much more on today's Professional Hypnotherapists Podcast.
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http:www.stravershypnosis.com/certified-havening-training/
For Therapy Enquiries
Email: stephen@stravershypnosis.com
https://www.stravershypnosis.com/
Telephone: 086-1786809
Hi there, thanks for listening and please like this podcast where you listen to your podcasts.
The European Association of Professional Hypnotherapists is a group of like-minded hypnotherapists who are accredited professionals in their field. Many of our therapists have many many years of experience behind them which means you are probably in the best possible hands, available to you.
Why not pop on over to eaph.ie and choose the hypnotherapist that suits you. Many provide online hypnotherapy. eaph.ie
We welcome feedback on your listening experience at eaph.ie
Aidan
00:00 - 00:12
This is the Professional Hypnotherapist Podcast, a production of the European association of professional hypnotherapist. That's EAPH.ie
Aidan
00:27 - 00:40
And a very warm welcome to you for session number 0 0 1 8 with Stephen Travers. And today he talks to us about his work as a hypnotherapist using havening techniques.
Aidan
01:02 - 02:06
In today's podcast. We hear Steven tell us he is results-oriented. That is he is dedicated to getting the best results possible for his many happy clients. We hear all of this and more, much more on today's professional hypnotherapists podcast. Stephen Travers, you have been lauded and praised by your many, many colleagues, and indeed by your many clients, you have been described by one of your peers dock off Stoller bar as having full of empathy and creativity. You have appeared on the printed media and indeed on television, many times you are the director of advanced clinical hypnotherapy. You also are qualified as an international trainer in havening techniques. Again, you have been praised by Dr. Ronald Ruden, who is the founder of havening techniques, and yet who is the real Stephen travel.
Stephen
02:07 - 02:16
Yeah. Well, thank you. First of all, in for having me, well, that's an interesting question to start with. Where, where would you like me to begin
Aidan
02:18 - 02:31
It's up to you What do you think people would be interested to hear In other words, basically what I'm trying to get at is just something about Steven Travers that not many people know about.
Stephen
02:32 - 02:57
Yeah. Well, I suppose one place to begin before I originally became a therapist. I worked more in the sales and marketing world, and that's where I first got introduced to personal development and, and NLP and even hypnosis, believe it or not. So that's where my journey starless in becoming a hypnotherapist.
Aidan
02:59 - 03:04
Excellent. And obviously, if there was something within you that gravitated towards that..
Stephen
03:05 - 03:25
Yeah. Well, it was always fascinated by as psychology, especially in regards to how people talk and their behavior and what influenced that and what actually ended up popping to me when I was working in the sales and marketing world from stress, you could say, I ended up having panic attacks.
Aidan
03:27 - 03:27
Okay.
Stephen
03:28 - 03:46
So that leads me then to, because it was familiar from reading various books about things like NLP and hypnotherapy, that the can be very effective solutions for us, which led me to training then with the Institute of clinical hypnotherapy and psychotherapy in Ireland,
Aidan
03:48 - 04:20
Of course, that's Joe Keeney in Cork that's right, Hmm, now, Steven, you, you work in hypnotherapy, Hypno psychotherapy, havening techniques. And one thing that you, you, you said to me is that you've mentioned that the remarkable, fast and lasting results that can be achieved for people with anxiety based disorders and trauma. Can you develop that point for me
Stephen
04:20 - 05:52
Yeah. Like I specialize in helping people with anxiety based disorders on traumas, such as post-traumatic stress, panic attacks, phobias, pathological emotions, like unresolved, anger, rage, guilt, shame, the come from adverse childhood effects, and really I'm a very results oriented person. So I've been studying quite a bit over the last that kid or two I was looking for as some of the most fastest and effective approaches. So I really not now use a combination of a hypnotherapy hypno analysis and NLP and Hey, if, and then at the help get those results. And what I found interesting or over the years from looking at the neuroscience is the hypno analysis model of cause and effect, and being able to identify the cause of anxiety best disorders and symptoms, is completely aligned with the latest research in neuroscience, in terms of her trauma and anxiety based disorders, becoming quotas in the brand, specifically in the part of the brain called the amygdala. So really what I do is I look to pinpoint and identify what's causing be it the panic attacks or the post-traumatic stress and get to the root of the Vish, as opposed to just treating the symptoms
Aidan
05:54 - 05:59
And to ask, I suppose, maybe stupid question. How do you do that
Stephen
06:00 - 06:54
Yeah. Well, first of all, like when I'm working with someone I'm really looking for the first event, if you'd like the coding moment, so there's a few different ways I would do it. I love to do a history in tech with someone and I look for when their symptoms for starters or what was going on in their life. And that'd be very much watching as well for the emotional charges are from this thing to watching them, because what you love and find when there is a traumatic event or memory or experience coming up for someone, it will start triggering them or activating them and they'll start feeling emotional or distressed in some way. So that's one of the indications that lets us know if something is traumatically encoded in the amygdala.
Aidan
06:56 - 07:29
and you know, there are many, I suppose, lots of people out there who are living their lives, their daily lives, and they're tolerating, we'll say, anxiety or stress or whatever you might call it. What advice would you give to anyone out there, Steven, who maybe, you know, enduring this. And indeed there has to be a few, quite a few people out there who don't realize that what they're actually experiencing is as it were not normal.
Stephen
07:31 - 08:37
Yeah. Well, it's about being, you know, aware of, you know, watch experiencing, and that's what often happens with people in the sense that people can deal with so much stress and it's human nature to a degree. We tend not to do anything about something until it gets to the critical level, like going to the dentist, you know, some people don't go to the dentist until it actually have a raging to toothache. And then the go. So it's often about watching for signs and symptoms. Like if you're, if you're not sleeping properly or you're feeling a bit irritable, run down, you know, if you have problems concentrating, focusing, you know, it's about watching for those signs of stress creeping up up on you and FDR at obviously I'd say the people, you know, seek help, go to see a therapist, and you know, prevention, better, thancure in some ways as well. So it's about being able to, you know, be aware of the signs and the signals, then taking some sort of positive action to remedy.
Aidan
08:39 - 08:55
Indeed. And of course I mentioned a moment ago, the phrase is not normal, but I should qualify that by saying that everybody operates in and on the world and in their life. and for them that's normal. What I'm saying is that there can be a different normal at that makes
Stephen
08:57 - 10:01
Yeah, there, there, there, there can't be like when you look at a lot of anxiety, FIS symptoms that people have, or even disorders such as panic attacks and post traumatic stress, there are phobias doc can develop. You know, we often find that anxiety based disorders are really the consequence of unresolved past trauma that most people aren't even consciously aware of. and they become unconsciously in Coded. So I'm sure you're very aware of to say, you know, people come in with a set of symptoms, anxiety, stress, and it's very rarely ever about the issue, the think. It is. So when we, when we start going, digging a beat into the past, we often find these traumas. I, when we at, if you like remove the more clear, the more do the therapeutic work on them, that's often when the client gets that complete resolution of the symptoms and, and starts to, if you like freedom from the problem
Aidan
10:03 - 10:16
Did, and that's all very satisfying work, I'm sure. Now, Stephen, you are an international trainer, of havening and, maybe you tell us what exactly is happening.
Stephen
10:17 - 10:47
Well, Hey, everything is a cycle century approach to anxiety based disorders, trauma on creating resilience. So when we say cycle sensory, we talk with sensory touch where you can apply gentle stroking on the arms, hands and FIS. And there's also pleasant, psychological distraction techniques at Valerie is, it was developed by my good friend and colleague, Dr. Ronald Ruden and his brother had Dr. Steven Roden.
Aidan
10:49 - 11:01
Okay. Now you mentioned there, stroking. So, so the people out there don't have a heart attack, maybe it clarify what exactly you mean. You're not, you're not actually doing the stroking it's their themselves.
Stephen
11:02 - 12:06
Yeah, that's right. We call it last Self Havening. And so there are south applying it see to appreciate how haven works. It's it's this it's the same, I suppose, appreciation you have for the Hypno analytical model, like with Haven, , if, and then we look to pinpoint that, identify the root cause, memory, the event. And what we've discovered is there's something called our preceptors to getting coding on neurons in the lateral amygdala. And these are preceptors download. If you like everything that you're seeing hearing on emotionally and physically feeling at the time of the traumatic memory. So say for example, you were walking through a park at a dog attacked you and you felt really distressed and you couldn't escape and you ended up having a bit of a panic attack. What's actually happening in your brain and treat your census is your amygdala.
Stephen
12:06 - 13:06
And these receptors are done loading all that data. What you're seeing, what you're hearing, what you're feeling. So you're seeing the dog and the trees, the grass, the park, even the smells. So the event is over and look, you feel okay, and maybe a week or two they're there you go back into the park and then you start feeling a bit uncomfortable or a bit stressed. And you're not sure why, or few weeks later you see someone with a dog and you get really, upset, or are you, you feel like you have together where you have to, you know, fight or flight reaction what's happening there is because that original trauma is then called it. Anything that reminds you of what happened in the park be consciously or unconsciously has the potential to fire these receptors off. And the arugula which released this adrenaline in the body.
Stephen
13:06 - 13:58
And, you know, the purpose of that, you know, it's to keep you safe. It's for as far as survival. And really what we're doing with happening is we're using sensory touch, which produces something called Delta waves and the brand, which occur in slow wave sleep to remove these neuro-biological routes, these opera receptors off these traumatic memories. And when we do that, once those receptors are removed, it's switches off that stress response, that fight or flight reaction, if you like, and actually then resolves the anxiety best issue are the symptoms. So if any stimilus or cues come back in the reminder of the trauma, again, because the opera receptors are removed, it can't fire that fight or flight reaction anymore, and your nervous system, our body,
Aidan
13:60 - 14:03
No. Can you spell that word calls it.
Stephen
14:04 - 14:08
ampreceptors.
Aidan
14:09 - 14:22
that's a very, that's very interesting. And all of this, of course, Steven is, achieved, let's say, outside of trans work, is that correct
Stephen
14:23 - 14:56
We do. I do use elements of hypno analysis where I'd asked someone to close their eyes, you know, get in touch with those feelings and like a, a type of a timeline therapy. I'd asked them to go back and, you know, remember the first event or what first event comes to mind. so we do use elements or they use elements of a, if you like hypnotic regression to help, to pinpoint and identify, where these for surfaces surface or the traumatic events or incidents.
Aidan
14:57 - 15:10
Okay. And this, this has done in conjunction with heaving. I see. Well, that's very interesting and I'm sure, I'm sure that, your clients find a bear very beneficial.
Stephen
15:11 - 16:02
Yes. I suppose one of the big tick whiz with something like haveving is someone, if you'd pinpoint and identify something that's very traumatic where, you know, or really activate someone in the moment, the Haeving can down regulate the stress really quickly, like almost within, well within minutes. See, when you're also applying the sensory touch, it's producing various common neuro neurotransmitters in the brand and the bodies such as serotonin, oxytocin, and GABA, which makes the Haven and treatment, you know, a very calm and soothing experience for the client, as well as downregulating that stress, reducing things like their heart rate or blood pressure. And it's actually the linking the emotional charge from the traumatic memory or experience.
Aidan
16:04 - 16:26
Yeah. That's very interesting. and if, if there was any type of, let's say an example, or maybe not necessarily a case study, or is there something that comes to mind that, you know, that you found that you did this practice with a client and it's extremely successful Is this something that you might think of at this stage, maybe a tell us about
Stephen
16:27 - 17:30
It was an interesting case many, many years ago, really, when we first started doing, doing Havening , like I'm doing havening now almost a decade, and at this lady come to me for a sleep problem, she had insomnia and, you know, she tried different things. She's been to the doctors, she seen one or two sleep specialist, but it still wasn't resolved. And her issue and the main problem she had was at night time, she felt, she found it very hard to settle and actually get to sleep. And she'd sometimes wake up in the middle of the night as well. But you did this interesting behavior. She had this compulsion or needs to go to the window and look at the window as if she was checking or looking for something or someone it's like, you know, it was almost like she's watching for a Predator though. And I asked her to close her eyes anyway, and just start drifting back.
Stephen
17:30 - 18:37
Or, you know, two times when, you know, she felt these type of feelings, this compulsion or origin or fear, and what came up for her was this lady was in her fifties, what came up for her was she grew up on the farm. and obviously she shared a room actually with our system and her grandfather used to come around and tell herself, and her sister go stories and the grandfather taught them a story about the banshee. She and, and terrified, terrified them. And what happened was when they went to bed, David here, cots crying in the farm and they started tanking. It was the banshee, that was calming. And of course what the bunchy mean someone's going to die. Yeah. And her sister would be in the room going up the window to see if the banshee was caught coming and then cuddling in the bed together, frightened and fearful.
Aidan
18:38 - 18:39
So
Stephen
18:39 - 18:52
While they simply did was then I haven't thought of the event, of the band shape. There was, you know, feel the bits and pieces to it as well. And the sleeping issue completely resolved within one session.
Aidan
18:54 - 19:08
Excellent. Excellent. And of course for our international listeners out there, a bond, she, I mean, I suppose it comes from the, the Gaelic ban on T the lady of the hosts as aware, and maybe I'm incorrect,(female Spirt) or do you know about,
Stephen
19:08 - 19:13
I don't know, the exact, the meaning of the word or where it comes from. Yeah.
Aidan
19:14 - 19:40
Okay. Well, I think, I think it comes from Berlanti the lady of the house, but it's an all Irish folklore. it's, it has this, like, almost like the cry of a cat as it were similar to that. And, as you said, you know, it is a warning, a foreboding warning, that, there's somebody has gone today, but we're not going to cook it into that now. So you had, you had tremendous results without Steven.
Stephen
19:40 - 19:58
Yeah. So that's an example of something that really wasn't the obvious, you know, cause she was there for a sleeping insomnia issue and that was the symptom, you know, who it connects going back to farm with cats crying when she was a child to the cause of, of how our sleep problem
Aidan
20:01 - 20:22
And that that's one instance of say, for example, w where's the something that was, let's say a simple issue that was resolved. I know you resolved that last one in one session, but something that you, that you know, a client presented with you and in one instance, or one was our session, whatever you, you cleared it up straight away. That's something come to mind about that
Stephen
20:23 - 21:37
Well, I remember once I was doing a talk in Dublin, it was actually, an introduction to havening talk, it was actually a Reiki group. There were Reiki practitioners, interestingly, and of also other holistic therapist attenders. And it was, it was actually a lady had called me a week before and she's actually found her son who committed suicide. She actually found the man. She was highly traumatized from the memory of opening up the door and seeing him of what, of what happened. So she, she couldn't do the therapy. You with me, to be Frank. She, she actually, so I invited her along to that to talk. I did. And I told her, look, I will do some work with you as a demo at the talk. And yeah, I brought her up go to think of the memory of what happened. She was obviously highly distressed and traumatized by it and they're fully within 10 minutes, we removed the emotional trauma from the memory.
Stephen
21:37 - 22:16
And when she went back to the memory and tile of her son, she could see this very positive image like he had passed on, but she'd seen it in a very positive, almost spiritual way. so that that's one that comes to mind that was quite black and white. and that was in front of a group of a group of that. I was wondering at the time was like, why he's even, even attempting while there, while I was doing, but I know from doing thousands of these at what type of results as you imagined, you know, the remarkable results it can produce .
Aidan
22:17 - 22:24
Yeah. And I'm sure the lady was in full agreement to do this and, you know, achieved, had tremendous benefits from
Stephen
22:24 - 22:47
Yeah, she had, she, she couldn't, she couldn't, she couldn't believe us. She, she was, she was quite amazed and trustingly, yeah, there's nothing like a live demo as well sometimes to show people, you know, and, I think we had like four or five people registered that, that nice to, to our next training as simply because of the power of the demo
Aidan
22:48 - 22:54
And David. So Steven, why are you so passionate about what you do What motivates you
Stephen
22:55 - 23:46
I love results. I'm a very, as I say, results oriented the person, I know a while ago we were talking about personality profiles and there's something called the desk profile and I'm very high on D and D people are very results oriented. and, you know, look at the end of the day, the work that we do, you know, we're working with people who are distressed, especially if we're working with anxiety based issues and trauma, and to be able to at least relieve some of that pain, if not completely resolve it for people, you know, we are in a privileged position. you know, it gives, it gives me great satisfaction that I, I suppose, have the knowledge and skills and tools to do that. I still get a kick out of this there indeed.
Aidan
23:46 - 24:06
Well, that's important to be, to keep motivated now, earlier on, you mentioned about the fact that you worked, you know, in, in sales and you know, where you are know as a therapist, a reputable, ethical professional therapist. what advice would you give to your younger self Steven
Stephen
24:10 - 24:11
In what context
Aidan
24:12 - 24:22
And, and, and any context you're not knowing what you know now as the person you are know, if you were to give the younger you a bit of advice, what advice would you give to the younger you
Stephen
24:25 - 24:50
That's a great, that's a great question. I think last time I was asked that question was a very long time ago and I can't remember the answer I gave. I would, I would say the answer, I suppose. I tell the young, the younger me that things, things work out, things are going to work out, and the things that that's what comes to mind.
Aidan
24:52 - 24:55
Yeah. Okay. Well, that's, that's excellent. Anything else that comes to mind,
Stephen
24:58 - 25:30
Keep, keep learning. I'm a great believer in learning, always learning new information, updating your skill, sets, your knowledge. And one of my favourite quotes is from a suppose to be Michael Angelo, said when he was 91. And the core there is I am still learning. Yeah. So I think having that attitude towards life and especially is a lot to what we do as well, is, is very useful.
Aidan
25:31 - 25:37
Yeah, indeed. I was going to ask you a question, what defines success in your field And of course we know it's results.
Stephen
25:37 - 26:23
Yeah. It's , I suppose, from a client's perspective, that's the way I think about it as well. There's some research there awhile ago. interestingly, there was a study done found that Google searches from anxiety for anxiety related information, is that a recordhigh, then it's like another study by Trustpilot that. And they were saying that 89% of people before they choose to purchase a product, or even the service, read and research reviews and testimonials, etc . So that, that tells me that, you know, people are looking for modalities and approaches that can actually use results for them.
Aidan
26:24 - 27:02
Yeah. I think that's important that, you know, oftentimes, and I'm not criticizing, the other therapies that are available, but, you know, a hypnotherapy hypnosis a psychotherapy is a very rapid therapy and long lasting. And I think that's the benefit of, you know, hypnosis psychotherapy per say, because you do have, unbelievably remarkable, fast results, in, in doing that work. what's the best advice Steven, that a mentor ever gave you about the work that you do
Stephen
27:06 - 27:58
Listen, listen, when CLIENT, you know, listen and be observant when, when people are speaking or when you're working with a clients, I noticed sometimes nightly trainings are actually very different therapists. There are trainings, . And I know that some therapists, when they're working with client in our practice groups, that they take a lot of notes when someone's speaking, but they're not actually watching with a set sensory acuity to, to the, to the person in front of them. And they end up missing a lot of things, just facial gestures, or even voice tonality or facial expressions, which can tell you a loss. yeah. So, yeah. Listening and being observant.
Aidan
27:59 - 28:31
Yeah. I think that's very, really important, because I think that when you listen, you know, you, you are, you're giving yourself, the capacity or the ability or the time to reflect on what they're saying. And I think that when you reflect on what the client is saying, you know, you, you come up with with, you know, perhaps the best responses, the best interventions come to your mind. Would you agree with that
Stephen
28:31 - 29:08
Yeah, I would like when I work with clients, I'm all, I often listen, I'm always listening for emotional emotionally led and words. So how many times to say, like, reward fear or angry as to giving you the narrative of their story or what happened and you, you know, it's amazing if you actually take notes to that, you know, the person said angry or anger, you know, five, six times, or to keep sending the towards fear or scared, even though they're giving you a lot of information, you can start piecing together what that, what the emotions are that are, that are causing the problem and where it could be coming from
Aidan
29:10 - 29:29
Indeed. And again, you know, I just said it's really important to listen to not just necessarily, you know, in, in therapy, but in all aspects of life in the workplace, you know, etc. as I always say, listen, to truly understand, you know
Stephen
29:29 - 29:42
Yeah. And there is something about sometimes just, just letting someone speak and talk and, you know, offload as well, and that they actually feel they're being listened to inherit with someone.
Aidan
29:44 - 29:58
And in the course of your work, Steven, what were the most helpful resources that have helped you along the way In other words, help you to be the person that you are today How for resources, if the,
Stephen
30:01 - 30:54
Well, as I mentioned, you know, I, I love learning specially in this field and look, I've, I've read so many of our colleagues, so many books, and I've done so many courses. there's so many resources. I think we, you know, when we started off, we had a great foundation and the training we did, with the hypnosis analytical model of cause and effect, because everything I've done over the last, I suppose, 17 years now, it's, it's missing tickets with 17 years since I trained with the ICHP and that resource of understanding to get to the recalls of initia and everything I've studied so far. And even the latest neuroscience actually backs all that up.
Aidan
30:55 - 01:40
huh. That's very interesting that the latest neuroscience has backed all that up. And of course we're talking about
Stephen
31:04 - 31:19
We're talking to, and even, model of what Sigmund Freud was talking about and finding the root cause if you can find this, bring it to light and do some therapeutic work on it, it will often completely resolve issues for people.
Aidan
31:21 - 31:34
Okay. Now, if there was anyone that was thinking about, we'll say coming into the whole, profession of hypnotherapy, hypnosis, psychotherapy, havening, or whatever, what advice would you give them
Stephen
31:38 - 32:05
Well, if you want to help people and you know, that's where your heart is and it's calling you and go for it do it. Because the work that we do, being able to help other people, it's very fulfilling if that's where your heart is, that's what, that's what you want to do, go for it. And then the other thing is that the work that we do when you're doing your training and learning, you're also working on yourself.
Aidan
32:07 - 32:23
That's, that's really important point because, you know, you have to be the best version of you as a therapist. In other words, before you can go out there and help a client in that's really important. Isn't that right
Stephen
32:24 - 32:56
You're experiencing doings sessions from the client's perspective, you're working on your own issues. but the thing is if you have unresolved issues and a client walks in with similar issues often and can bring up your stuff as well. yeah, but then of course you can go off and do something about that to, so it's a great thing about our field is it's all it's evolving. there's always more to learn, so you won't get bored. Put it that way.
Aidan
32:57 - 33:07
Oh, Steven. how can, anyone out there who is interested in doing your courses in contact new, both therapy How can they contact you
Stephen
33:08 - 33:20
Yeah, they can go to my website as Travers hypnosis.com. Okay. RJ can email, at StevenTravers hypnosis.com.
Aidan
33:21 - 33:28
Okay, excellent. And you are based in Dublin at the advanced clinical hypnotherapy, is that correct
Stephen
33:28 - 33:38
I'm based in Dublin. you can also call the office or my number direct. It's a, 0861786879
Stephen
33:38 - 33:47
I offer a free 15, 20 minute phone calls just to make sure that the issues are a good fit for my approach.
Aidan
33:48 - 33:56
Excellent. So that was Steven Travers, a hypnotherapist havening trainer expert based in Dublin. Thank you, Stephen.
Stephen
33:57 - 33:58
All the best.
Aidan
33:58 - 34:20
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