On Our Best Behavior
On Our Best Behavior is a heartwarming podcast where Mom, Kelli and 16-year-old son, Maccoy delve into the complexities of school, life's struggles, highs and lows, and various challenges. With a blend of humor and sincerity, they navigate through these topics while sharing their own experiences and insights. Their conversations are not only relatable but also enlightening, offering listeners a fresh perspective on everyday issues. Alongside their engaging discussions, they welcome intriguing guests, adding a dynamic element to each episode. Tune in to join this duo on their journey of growth, learning, and discovery.
On Our Best Behavior
From The Vault: Zach Dillon KDWB
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As I toggle the mic on, the familiarity of the studio wraps around me like a favorite sweater, but today's session has an extra layer of excitement. I'm joined by Zach Dillon, who's spent his last day at KDWB and is about to jump into the new adventures awaiting at Cities 97. Together, we stroll down memory lane, relishing the birth of the Fallon and Zach show and the capers radio life throws at you—like the time a Lake Patrol gig turned into an impromptu comedy. Zach's tales from the trenches are more than mere anecdotes; they're a reminder of the camaraderie that blooms in the broadcast booth.
Mother's Day may come once a year, but the stories we share in this episode are perennial treasures. From garden shopping escapades to the comedic Cherry Berry change debacle, we find ourselves chuckling over the everyday. We muse over career trajectories and the whimsy of accents that morph when surrounded by family, all the while sharing those backstage glimpses with icons like Justin Bieber and Gwen Stefani that make you feel you've touched stardom's glittering hem.
The beat of life doesn't pause for summer, but our podcast is taking a seasonal siesta, promising to return with a satchel full of stories. Until then, we leave you with a few surprise episodes, like hidden gems waiting to be unearthed during long, sunlit days. So whether you're craving tales of unexpected pecks from rock legends, debating the best Clearly Canadian flavor, or seeking advice on tailgater etiquette, remember: the microphone is always on, and we're just a play button away from sharing another laugh, another revelation, and another beat of this wild, wondrous life.
Hey guys, welcome back to Honor Best Behavior. You're here with Mac and Kelly.
Speaker 2Well, that was a great intro, thank you. Thank you very much. I'm glad to be here with you, mac Yep. Now let me tell you what I love about podcasting and what I don't like about podcasting. Oh my gosh, maybe you shouldn't drink a whole bottle of Clearly Canadian right before we record.
Speaker 1Dude, I just slipped out. I had to get out. I didn't want a stomach ache. A stomach ache, no stomach ache.
Speaker 2Stummy. You weren't sure if you wanted to say stomach or tummy, so you said stummy, stummy.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's a mix, Gina Stummy.
Speaker 2So podcasting, I love recording podcasting, it's fun. I love talking to you, I love talking to our guests. I hate setting up for the podcast and editing the podcast.
Speaker 3It's a nightmare.
Speaker 2I see that I used to say, oh, when our is like off the charts and I don't have to do the editing and the setup and all that anymore, I was like no, I'd still want to do it because I like that it's ours, Like we do all of this you know you have to pay money for someone to do it anyway, right. But if I had a lot of money and money wasn't really like a thing I had to think about I didn't have a budget, I would definitely pay somebody to do this setup and the editing.
Speaker 2I don't know. Whatever the going rate is, I want to be Joe Rogan. I just want to show up to my studio, joe Rogan is a crazy example, and just talk and shoot the shit. And somebody else is like pulling up all the stuff on Google. Oh, I think this. Oh, check my facts.
Speaker 1Like pulling up all the stuff on Google.
Speaker 2Oh, I think this. Oh, check my facts, that guy's got it made. So, if you want this to be a Joe Rogan situation and you want to hook us up, we're listening. All right, anyway, done with my aches and pains of podcasting what's new? Tell me what you know, what?
Speaker 1what you know, we haven't podcasted two weeks.
Speaker 2It's been two weeks because life is busy yeah, tell me, what did you do for your mom, for mother's?
Speaker 1day I had like 120 right and we went out and we got garden stuff for you. We got like some soil, we got you plants, and then what else did we do? Oh yeah. And then what else did we do? Oh yeah. And then we got cherry berry. Oh, so good All those toppings. Yeah, you had so much, I only had two. I love it.
Speaker 2I don't know how you go to cherry berry and don't get 10 toppings like that's the whole point of why it's amazing oh dude, I can't drink that no more. No you can't I don't think that I'm gonna cut you off from carbonation just because of all your bodily fluids I'm sorry that I had to get them out. Maybe you should try to drink more water.
Speaker 1That is water.
Speaker 2It's got sugar in it.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2And calories it's got a lot of. It's not healthy. Clearly, Canadian is not healthy.
Speaker 1Hey, don't judge my drink.
Speaker 2I'm not judging it. I like it, it's a treat, but you drink it like it's straight up spring water and it's a deception because that's not true.
Speaker 1I drank water three days ago.
Speaker 2That's not good. What happened to drinking a bottle of water every day? Grounded, what McCoy? Okay, we're going to go off track here. Okay, I'm going into mom mode right now. We make so many agreements with you, like you have to drink a bottle of water a day. You have to drink water before you get soda or anything else you have to touch grass for so many.
Speaker 1You have to drink water before you drink soda. What?
Speaker 2Yes, remember, we said that was the thing If you wanted something to drink, you had to make sure you had X amount of water to drink every day.
Speaker 1First, oh, I had to drink a bottle of water a day. Yes, you know this.
Speaker 2You just don't retain anything. You're supposed to touch grass.
Speaker 1I'm going to be honest. I got bored of drinking water. It gets boring every once in a while. Well, it's healthy, I know.
Speaker 2Coke isn't boring Cocaine, but you can't do that all the time.
Speaker 1No, I don't drink coke all the time.
Speaker 2I'm talking about cocaine, the stuff you snort.
Speaker 1Yeah, you can't do that.
Speaker 2That's what I'm saying. A lot of people say that's fun and then they end up addicted to meth. So that's what I'm saying. The sugar is the slippery slope to the diabetes. Diabetes, you mean. So don't do that and you're. You live a very sedentary lifestyle. Do you know what sedentary means? Not really, it means you sit on your ass all day.
Speaker 1Yeah, I know you sit on your ass at school.
Speaker 2You sit on your ass in your room and you sit on your ass yeah, that's okay Until you lay down and go to bed at night. It's not okay, it's not healthy.
Speaker 1I get that sometimes.
Speaker 2All right. So what were we talking about? I don't know. Okay, I have, oh, mother's Day. Oh yeah, cherry berry topping. Speaking of diabetes, yes, diabetes.
Speaker 1It was good I did a lady. I was like this is diabetes in a cup.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, you guys were kind of flirting.
Speaker 1No, I wasn't flirting with anyone. I am in the mic, you're not. I am in the mic.
Speaker 2You're not. I can hear when you're in the mic and when you're not in the mic.
Speaker 1I wasn't flirting with anyone.
Speaker 2She was flirting with you. I thought you gave her too much money and then she gave you too much money back and you guys were nervous and awkward.
Speaker 1I wasn't awkward, I was just being an honest person. I'm a weird person.
Speaker 2You are awkward.
Speaker 1You're right that is your normal self. Yep, yep. So Mother's.
Speaker 2Day was a delight Like. I really enjoyed the time that we spent together and we came home from all that and then we went to that food truck and had barbecue.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, I forgot that food truck's really good it was good.
Speaker 2Then we went to the grocery store and got groceries and you and Justin cooked me a steak sandwich and baked potato dinner and that was good, oh, yay. It was good.
Speaker 1And then that was about it Saturday, and then Sunday. That big potato oh my God, that big potato was fire. It was so good. The steak was Well it was because it was steak sandwich steak.
Speaker 2And you didn't have a steak sandwich, you just had steak.
Speaker 1Yeah, our steak was like a 5 out of 10.
Speaker 2My steak sandwich was a 10. Well, it wasn't the best steak sandwich ever.
Speaker 1It was Like an eight yeah, forever young.
Speaker 2Oh, so then on.
Speaker 1Sunday Forever young, forever young.
Speaker 2Don't you want to be?
Speaker 3forever, forever, forever Forever.
Speaker 1Forever, forever, forever, forever, forever, forever. Young, I want to be, Forever young. I can't think of any other words. Okay, I can't either.
Speaker 2So then Sunday we went out to lunch with Auntie Kate To Acapulco for Mother's Day.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, my Acapulco is good, but I always get full so fast Because I eat all the chips.
Speaker 2The chips are addicting. I keep putting them in your mouth.
Speaker 1That's the last one and you just next thing. You know what are you doing? I thought something was in my nose, but it's not.
Speaker 2that's the last one. That's the last one and you're just next thing.
Speaker 1you know what are you doing? I thought something was in my nose, but it's not. Do you ever feel like there's a big old booger and it's crusty?
Speaker 2but it's not, there's nothing, even in there. Sometimes it's like my nose ring. I feel like your nose ring gets itchy. The boogers like to collect around in there.
Speaker 1Cute huh Ooh, that's nasty, All right so back. Kind of like your braces like to collect food. Let's get back on topic here.
Speaker 2Okay, all right, maybe you get your ADD from your mom.
Speaker 1I probably do. I'm not going to lie, definitely my dad too, 100% For sure him yes. All right, so I don't even remember what we were talking about Mother's Day, that was it.
Speaker 2Acapulco, you ate too fast. You got really full.
Speaker 1And then we went off topic.
Speaker 2Okay, and that was it. Then we went home.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2I took a nap and it was lovely.
Speaker 1I didn't new job, oh yeah.
Speaker 2Isn't it a week where?
Speaker 1you get a Thursday free.
Speaker 2Yes, it is. So. I have two days left at my job that I have right now, and then I'm on to a new adventure, and I'm not ready to talk about what my new adventure is, but yeah. We'll talk about it, maybe next time I have been at my current job for eight years and I am ready for something different.
Speaker 1Eight years.
Speaker 2Eight years, isn't that a long time, eight years?
Speaker 1I don't know how teachers can do their job for 20 years.
Speaker 2I think if you have a job that has a lot of potential for growth and you're really happy at and it's fulfilling, I feel like being a teacher feels like you'd be miserable. I think being a teacher would be a difficult shot.
Speaker 1I think it would just be stressful.
Speaker 2You have to be the right kind of personality to be a great teacher that gets a lot of fulfillment. You have to have a lot of patience, you have to really like kids and you have to. I feel like you have to know how to teach in a fun way.
Speaker 1I don't know. Kate's never been my teacher. Yeah, I know, but she deals with um little kids. I feel like it's even worse yeah, yeah oh it's not as bad as you think. Everyone does their shit. Yeah, middle school sucks.
Speaker 2Let's just say that no one cares in middle school in high school do you have kids that are just like complete dingle douches? Yeah, and they don't do shit. But do they like talk to the? You know? Do they like? Are they rude and mean to teachers and stuff? Some of them are, some of them aren't. Yeah, see, that's the only thing.
Speaker 1That's hard is when and there's just people that are like they talk but they don't talk during their work. They actually do their shit. Yeah, they got like a basic regular person. Yeah.
Speaker 2On Mother's Day, you also gave me a foot rub and that was amazing. You don't want to talk about that. No, I don't care, it was the highlight of my Mother's Day weekend.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's crazy. That's a highlight what the frick.
Speaker 2Because it felt good. All right, Is there anything else that you want to talk about before we welcome our guest Loki? Let's get into the guest here.
Interview With Zach Dillon From KDWB
Speaker 1Okay, come on, you're next.
Speaker 2Today's interview is special because our guest today is Zach Dillon from at the time KDWB. When I interviewed Zach Dillon, it was his unknown to us last day at KDWB and he now works for Cities 97.
Speaker 2So, what is exciting is hearing Zach's story from his last day at KDWB, but not knowing that that was the last day, and we're actually going to interview Zach again now that he is at Cities 97. So, anyway, when you're listening to this, just keep in mind that this was his last day at KWB. And the next day, like literally 12 hours after we recorded, he messaged me and was like oh my gosh, big things are happening. We got to hang on a second. So anyway, without further ado, welcome.
Speaker 1Come on, zach, let's go Zach Dillon. Get back on stage.
Speaker 2You're listening to another episode of Honor Best Behavior and today I have a very special guest. He is the assistant program director, music director and co-host of the Fallon and Zach show on KDWB.
Speaker 3Welcome, zach Dillon. What's up? How are you, kelly?
Speaker 2I'm good. How are you?
Speaker 3Thank you so much for having me on your podcast. It was awesome. I got the email and it's like believe it or not, like not a ton of people asked to be on their podcast. I don't know if it's more of like a he'll never come on my podcast type thing or I don't know what it is. Maybe they don't like me, maybe you're the only one that likes me, kelly, but I do want to point out your shirt right now, because your shirt is pretty badass. Thank you, let's see the whole thing. I love tequila, but below the tequila.
Speaker 2Here, it is right here.
Speaker 3It says Fallon and Zach Fallon and. Zach, I wasn't making it up, that's a real shirt.
Speaker 2And I would have bought every single Zach Dillon t-shirt.
Speaker 3They had at the fair, but I think this is the first time that your name's been on one. That's sad. Yeah, I mean, it only took what? Eight years for them to put me on a shirt. Yeah, it took Fallon jumping onto my show to be like all right, well, we got to have a Fallon show, we got to have a Fallon t-shirt, so we'll add Zach's name in, because that'd be rude to not. But I like the color of that shirt. I wear that shirt a lot actually. It's a really nice like cream color yeah, it goes with everything yeah, and you're rocking it.
Speaker 3So thanks for thanks for the support.
Speaker 2I am a big fan of the show and I just but when I did see the shirt, I think I might have missed the episode when you guys talked about loving tequila, so where?
Speaker 3did that come from it wasn't.
Speaker 3It wasn't specifically tequila, I think. So we launched the. We launched the Fallon and Zack show on the week of the state fair, which was chaotic in and of itself, because you know, we have the state fair and we're out there every day broadcasting live, and it's just this whole big animal that we have to undertake every year. Like nobody can take time off during the state fair. It's like you are there and that's what it is, and so we always knew that. But, like when they said, hey, launch date's going to be August 21st, we're like are you out of your mind? Are you kind of crazy right now? Are you messing with us? Like, is this August fools? Like what's happening right now? But you know, we did it and we're both professionals, We've been doing this a long time and so we made it work. But you know, the one thing that we wanted to do was like just be in a studio and not in front of people trying to work our show and what we're going to do on the show and different bits and different segments and all that stuff, and so that was kind of hard to do from the fair. But one of the stories that we said early on in the show is that one time I did Lake Patrol and it was literally this was probably like three or four years ago I did like one of the very first Lake Patrols.
Speaker 3We go on Lake Minnetonka, we do like the whole, like we bring our street team and we give away like free stuff. We can't give away alcohol because that's illegal, but we give away like bubblies or whatever the sponsor is, and free little frisbees or whatever it may be that summer. And the very first boat that we got up to now, the first lake patrol, can be very good, Like the water can be very cold, like depending on how the winter was. You know, like last winter coming off last winter would have been awful. I mean, I don't know how long it took for that water to warm up.
Speaker 3Anyways, we get to the first boat and the first boat was these two women. They were like maybe upper thirties, low forties I'm really bad judgment on on ages, but um, I we get to that boat and I'm like, cause I hadn't jumped in yet, Cause I normally jump in, I'll swim up to people's boats and take shots with like bachelorette parties and stuff. Like I'm fun, Like I like to do, I like to be in the moment with these people. You know it's like it's lake patrol, like we're hanging out, and and so I asked one of the one of the women. I was like hey, is the water cold? And the woman literally does this. I'm not even kidding the hand of God, she goes. I don't know you tell me.
Speaker 3And I was like, wow, that's how this lake patrol is going to go. That's never happened before.
Speaker 2It's hard to match that energy right.
Speaker 3Zach gets flashed at lake patrol. That like the. That was the big running joke or whatever. So I think it's just like everybody. That wasn't necessarily tequila, but she was intoxicated, um, and so I think it's just that may have actually nothing to do with the tequila story, but, um, I felt like you wanted to hear. That story has somewhat to do with tequila, but I think everybody loves tequila, right, like that's like a universal love, whether they drink it or not. Another story, because we get wild on tequila.
Speaker 2You also, just as you age, to go from like bottom shelf tequila to like Patrona only as you got to have the good stuff, yeah.
Radio Career Beginnings and Regrets
Speaker 3And so we figured well, everybody loves tequila and everybody should love Fallon and Zach, so we'll put I love tequila and Fallon and Zach, and it worked out. So it's a very long winded, you know. I don't know if this is what you expected when you asked me to be on your podcast, because I like you said at the beginning, before we started recording I can just talk. I can too, so I'm trying to let you have your moment, because I get mine all the time. I mean, you get yours every day too.
Speaker 2So this is your show, this is my show, that's right. Well, today it's the Zach and Kelly show.
Speaker 3Ah, you can have the top billing. It's fine. It can be Kelly and Zach.
Speaker 2I'm going to let you have the top for one, see for thing, all right. So my son and I do this podcast and one of the things that we talk about a lot is what do you want to be when you grow up? My son is in ninth grade, he's 15, you know, trying to kind of get that treadmill going of his brain pattern Like life isn't just video games.
Speaker 3That's a tough one, I think like I mean, why can't they just be professional Fortnite players? I don't understand, you know.
Speaker 2I've tried to tell him that, like, if you're going to play, spend this much of your life playing video games. Like you need to be streaming, you need to be bringing something to the table in this household.
Speaker 3Yeah, you need to be making that money.
Speaker 2That's right, bring it to mama.
Speaker 3That's right.
Speaker 2I think I read somewhere that you knew you wanted to be in radio since you were 14, which is young.
Speaker 3Yeah, I mean yeah, that's when I started in radio.
Speaker 2I started when I was 14.
Speaker 3You started. So how do you do that? So I actually knew I wanted to be on the radio much earlier than that, because I just always had this love for music and love for entertaining people from a young age, you know like center of attention type, you know young kid or whatever, and I used to have that like old Fisher Price microphone thing and I used to you know Fisher-Price microphone thing and I used to go around fake interviewing people and stuff and it just was always a part of me and when I was like, well, actually early when I was 14. So right when I turned 14, I was able to work in Massachusetts where I grew up, which I guess we'll talk about, but I grew up in Cape Cod, massachusetts. Every state has different rules. I don't know what it is in Minnesota, but you can be 14 and work there.
Speaker 3When you were 14, you could get a job and so, like, my goal was to get a job so I could afford the equipment to record like a demo tape, which back in the day was cassette tape. So you know, a demo tape to give to the local college radio station GM, because my sister's if, if all this is not like Maury Provich type stuff. But my sister's best friend's friend was the GM of that radio station and so I had an in and so I'm like, oh, if I could just do this, because I have nothing else to read, like it'd be really bad quality. Like I want to impress these people. You know what I mean. Like I'm 14. So, like, what do they expect from a 14 year old? Um, but so I, I literally just worked that entire summer and and made a demo tape, and she called me in.
Speaker 3I don't know if she knew I was 14. I think maybe she was briefed that I was 14, but, like she said, I was so impressed with, like just your ability to do things that you've never been trained to do, like you just kind of a natural at it. Um, like, how would you like to do a show every Saturday from? I think it was like three to seven or four to seven or whatever she says. But there's one, there's one caveat is that a it doesn't pay, which I was fine, I was 14. I just made money. I didn't. I had no bills, my parents weren't charging me rent.
Speaker 3Um like you're about to do your, your ninth grader, right. Make them bring home the bacon. So I really didn't have an issue with that. But the other part was that I was underage, I was 14, like, as far as the rules and regulations for the college, that nobody under the age of 18 could be in a college facility without like someone over the age of 18. You know what I mean? Like there had to be an adult present, and so that meant that it could even be my mom, it didn't have to be faculty, it just could be someone of the age. And so my parents literally for I had it for like two and a half years every Saturday they would like swap off, and so one parent would come with me for the entire show and just be there for legality reasons and I would do my show, and so that's how it all started.
Speaker 3And it was an alternative radio station.
Speaker 3So they put a lot of like incubus and primus and rage against the machine and like it's not that I'm not a fan of that stuff, but I was always a pop guy.
Speaker 3And so they had this deal where if you got like an underwriter because again, it's not a commercial radio station, so you can't get like commercials on the station, but you can have someone underwrite your show and that just means that they're kind of sponsoring it and they give you money every month or quarter or whatever and that you get to mention their name. It's not in a advertising manner, it's not like you know. You can't go off on a 30 second spiel about you know the deals that they have and all this stuff. It can't sound like a commercial. It's just like hey, this program underwritten by Bob's Pizza and it was a pizza place near my house and this guy would go in like every month or two months or whatever, was giving me $50 check. I'd give it to the college and that made me able to play pop music, because if you got an underwriter for your show you could choose whatever format you want Look at you.
Speaker 3So I played pop music. And what's the one type of music that college kids don't like? Pop music, at least back in the day, they just were not a fan. They liked that whole like underground hip hop, alternative scene Like here I am playing Britney Spears and Backstreet Boys, and they hated it. All the other kids. First off, I was 14. No one else was 14. Everyone was in college.
Speaker 3Yeah, so, here's this 14 year old kid coming in running the show playing pop music at a college radio station. I mean I was not. I mean I was well-liked, but I mean with the other kids I think there was kind of like a who else's kid think he is. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's 14 year old kid coming in here running things. It's like and and so that just basically, I was able to get a lot of experience through that and and most of it obviously was self-taught. I wasn't still, I wasn't taking courses or anything.
Speaker 3I just, you know, radio is one of those things where it's like, at the end of the day, you don't need, uh, like to go to college for a bunch of years and and get that diploma. You know what I mean. Like I've never been asked at a radio station hey, let me see your diploma. Like it's not a thing. It's like, if you can talk in complete sentences, you can be witty, you can be funny, you can have ideas, you can. You know I'm in the programming world too. Like you introduced me assistant program director, so I make, you know, some decisions on the programming side of things for the radio station. Like, if you have those abilities, those come like without training, or like you know without a diploma. It's like you know without a diploma. It's like you can't teach someone to you know, complete a sentence or be funny. It's just like you either have it or you don't.
Speaker 3And so I did go to college, though, and I dropped out of college, which is one of my few regrets. We actually did a topic on the Fallon and Zach show the other day. It was like have you ever thought about, like sat back and thought about like what if you went this way? Yes, how your life would have turned out. You can't imagine it, because I love my kids, I love my wife, like my life is fine, like I love my, I love my family, like I can't imagine going the other way because it wouldn't be the same. You know what I mean. Like I just can't. I'm not like a past thinker, anyways, but we did this segment and it made me think, and I'm like man.
Speaker 3I dropped out of college after the third year of my college and I went and I took this like professional um full-time radio position in Connecticut, and I thought at that moment because when you're younger, things are magnified, and you're like I'm never going to have this like chance again to get this job BS.
Speaker 3Like I know I could have got a job when I finished one more year of college, but again, that path I took led me to everything that's happened in my career. So if I had gone for the fourth year, I wouldn't have had that same job, which led to the next job, which led to the next job. It would have been jobs, but it would have been different, would have never met my wife, would have then, of course, never had my kids, and so it's just a really weird thing when you start thinking about it and I'm just like I hate that I dropped out, but on the other hand I'm like I couldn't imagine not. But I've always had this thing that at some point in my life I would love to like go back and just finish that last year, because it's like what's one year Right? Like I can't believe. Back in the day I really thought that like I would not get another gig if I didn't take this one.
Speaker 3And it wasn't even that great, but back in the day, like it was, it was a big deal for me, you know.
Speaker 2And now, like you're where you want to be I'm assuming I mean with you like especially your family and your wife and your kids you have all those things that you want and you can imagine it any other way. So now, like, what the hell, you can just finish college and get that, get that done.
Speaker 3And then you've done all the things that you wanted to do. I think, um, you know, Minnesota has been great and we were coming up here. I got here June of 2016. So this year, literally in June, will be eight years, which is just kind of crazy to me because at one point I moved um with an iHeart or TriHeart for many years and so, and so iHeart would move me to different markets and stuff. So I moved five times in seven years at one point and some of that was like interstate, but like a lot of it was cross country and so.
Speaker 3But I think about when I was doing that we either had no kids or just a little kid, and so it gets a lot more difficult to move and uproot your family and stuff when you got kids that are older, Like my son now is 12 and he's very involved in the baseball scene in the town that we live in. Um, like you know, he's in middle school now and it's like my daughter's in fourth grade and she's about to be 10. And it's just like. It's like the thought of moving now is just like a nightmare, Whereas before it was just like all right, let's just pack the crib up and let's go, Whereas before it was just like all right, let's just pack the crib up and let's go.
Speaker 3Now it's a little bit more difficult and so it's nice that this has been such a great city for us and such a great radio station. I mean, when people talk about KDWB, they talk about it in the likes of like one of the best pop stations in the entire country. I mean those that those that live in the Midwest may not realize that like this, this pop station that I work for, is like massive across the country. It's not just in the Twin Cities, not just in the Midwest, it's like this is a big deal radio station and so I'm very blessed to be able to wake up every day and do what I love, because it's just it's crazy to think that like I get to be on the radio every day and I get paid to do it. It's just like it's a wild thought that back in the day, when I was that kid holding that Fisher-Price microphone, never thought that day would happen.
Speaker 2Wanted it but never thought it would happen. Yeah, you know you always when you're younger, like you wish, you kind of knew, like what your future was going to hold and you just probably were hoping for all those things but probably never saw that actually light up the way you did.
Career Choices and East Coast Accents
Speaker 3One of my big things when I was younger, outside of being on the radio and wanting the radio thing, was I was a baseball player. Yeah, like I was. Like I was 50% radio, 50% baseball. Like, to be honest, I mean I knew that I could make it in radio. I knew that, like you know, obviously I had passion for it and I wanted it. But like there was half of me that really wanted to be a baseball player and I think that that came from like even younger years, right, like I think you ask any kid, that's like five or six, what do you want to be when you grow up? I want to be a police officer, a doctor, a baseball player. But that's like the typical answers. You know what I mean. No one says like radio personality you know what I?
Speaker 3mean. So I think the baseball players stem from even before the radio dream happened, and I was pretty decent baseball players, lefty which obviously helps because there's hardly any lefties in the world, especially now like my son's baseball team is one kid that's a lefty out of 12 kids. It's just crazy to me. So I was well sought after because I could throw some heat. I was a pitcher and you know I got scouted a little bit but not enough for me to like go all in on it and so eventually like the, the thought of like giving it up, was a reality for me. Like I couldn't do both.
Speaker 3Like I grew up in Cape Cod so I would spend a lot of weekends and summers and stuff, not in college. I would stay in Cape Cod, um, and on the off season and stuff, and even in season it was just ridiculous I would go home to Cape Cod, I would do a nightclub gig on the Cape. Now where I went to school was outside of Boston, so it was about an hour and a half drive distance. So I would go home on a Friday night, do the club gig, I would come back for a 6 am baseball practice on a Saturday morning and then I'd go back to the Cape for another DJ gig on Saturday night. Come back Sunday for another practice at 6 am. Try doing that for a few months. You just kind of get burnt out.
Speaker 2You're like I need to choose one because one is I'm tired of just thinking about it. I don't know how you did it.
Speaker 3Yeah, no, it's like one is going to get. Naturally you can't keep up with that schedule and so something's going to be sacrificed. Either I'm going to be terrible at my DJ or I'm not going to perform in baseball. You know, I just can't. And so that's when I gave up the baseball dream and kind of focused on the radio thing and dropped out Like I said, I hate that word dropped out.
Speaker 3I left college and you know, I chose a different path you know on, like the credit card applications and applications and stuff. It's like you know what's your highest level. I'm like some college, like I feel very fortunate to even be able to put that right. Like some college, not all some.
Speaker 2Well, and you know that's like look at my resume, Like look what I have accomplished. Like don't judge me on my college level, come on.
Speaker 3Yeah, I mean again, I'm very blessed to be able to do what I do and haven't done it for so long. I mean I'm going to be I don't want to say it, I'm going to be 40 in May.
Speaker 2Well, you're younger than me 14 to 40.
Speaker 3What's that? 26 years in November. So when I tell people that they're like wait, because if I don't say I started when I was 14 and I just say that number to them 26 years like how the hell old are you Right? Like that doesn't even add up, like okay, but yeah, 26 years, it's just. I can't imagine my life any other way. Like I just I have a lot of friends that I grew up with that they wake up every day and they're like, oh, I got to go to work. That's never a thing for me. I love going to work and it's just like every day is different and some days obviously like anyone's job are better than others. Today, really good day because I get to come on this podcast with you. I mean, you know, tomorrow it's not going to be the same. You're the best.
Speaker 2I have to tell you my when I was young, what I would tell my mom I wanted to be when I grew up. So I really wanted to be a rock star when I was a young girl. Yeah, and.
Speaker 2But I had some reservations about that and my mom would be like, why wouldn't you want to be a rock star? Like that would be amazing. I mean, I know you haven't heard my voice, so there might have been some barriers there. But I was like, well, I don't want to have to live at the radio station because you just have to wait for them to play your song and then you have to sing it. Like I didn't realize there were recordings. I thought that they had to come up and sing their song every time they played it on the radio. Wow, so I was mind blown when I was like, what they can have their own life.
Speaker 3They don't live at the they don't live at KDWB because I, you know, I've listened to KDWB forever.
Speaker 2You were so naive I probably still am but it's okay, it's fun, yeah. So I feel, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 3No, I saw something.
Speaker 2I saw the wheels turning and something great going to come out of your mouth. No, I was waiting for you, so I was going to talk to you about. You were telling me about how you're from the East Coast, and when I listened to you on the radio for eight plus years, I never would have guessed that until you. I've heard you say it on the radio, but I don't feel like you have a strong East Coast accent.
Speaker 2I hear it a little bit more talking to you here but on the radio. I would have never picked up on that.
Regional Dialects and Sports Affiliations
Speaker 3I think the thing about radio is that you have to be able to like be in any city, right? So if I'm on the radio in Minnesota and I've got this thick Boston accent, like it, just it doesn't work. You know what I mean. Like it, just that wouldn't work. So I think, early on, I just I've never, I've never had an accent like like when I, when I go home and I start like having a couple of beverages with my friends, like a little bit maybe a little bit slips, but my parents are, so they have such a thick accent that sometimes I'm literally talking to my mom. My mom lives with me right now.
Speaker 2I was going to say now spending more time with her.
Speaker 3Yeah, she, she'll say something and I'm like I don't even understand what you just said. Like you're going to have to slow that down. Add some R's, please, to like the words you're saying so I can understand them. But she's, she's like very, very thick accent, and so I'm fortunate that that I don't have that, at least when I'm on the radio or whatever, but it's, it's an awful accent. Like I'm not. I'm not a huge fan of it. I mean, I guess people from the Midwest, like you, don't hear it as much, but you know, like people in the Midwest they don't think they have an accent, but they do.
Speaker 2That's because we have the best one. We have that like twang, right Twangy, but not Southern.
Speaker 3I love the fact that I was born in Massachusetts, but there's nothing Massachusetts about me.
Speaker 3Like I don't like seafood, Like I grew up literally in Cape Cod, Massachusetts, where it is the freshest of all seafood like lobster um chowder um all of it, and I don't, uh, I don't, none of my siblings actually have an older brother and older sister and none of us, Um, and it was fine with my parents, cause what they would say is that like if they would offer us the lobster, they'd be like the more for us, it's not cheap. Like lobster is not cheap, it's never been cheap, and so if we didn't want it, they'd have the more for them. I like the active fishing okay like especially here.
Speaker 3I mean we've got great, you know the great lakes and some awesome fishing. Yeah, I mean I love the sport of fishing. Just don't eat the fish I've just, and so I don't know, I'm not, I don't root for any of the sports teams anymore, so I really just kind of like left that in the past. It is a beautiful area of the world. You don't realize that until you move away. I think that a lot of people where they grow up, they for a lot of people, they just spend their whole lives where they grew up and they don't ever explore other places.
Speaker 3I've been fortunate to be able to see like different parts of the country and that's now shaped my like why did I want to leave Cape Cod so fast to experience like somewhat crappy cities? You know what I mean? It's like I grew up in a really nice place, but I think where you grow up you just can't wait to leave it and just figure out like what might be better. But then you come back and you're like you know what, you don't realize that like it was super nice and you know, I mean it's just the it's a really small area. It's it's really populated in the summer. Cape Cod is because it's touristy. Everybody that lives in New Jersey, New York, Connecticut, they all have like a home or a week that they spend on the Cape and that's like literally how Cape Cod survives, because in the winter it's dead, Like there is nobody there in the winter, just the year round guests or whatever, or year round residents.
Speaker 2And it gets pretty cold there in the winter, doesn't it?
Speaker 3It does. I mean not, I mean you're from here, so I mean cold is. It's warm there compared to here. To be honest, we get a lot more. I say the two differences, or I'd say the difference between here and Massachusetts, is that it gets way snowier. There. There's a lot more snow. I had a lot of snow days growing up as a kid and of course that was before e-learning and all the fun things that the kids have. Now it's like they don't even get a day off now because they can do it virtually Like. That's whack. You know, I used to love snow days with my friends go out sledding, don't have to worry about school. Now it's just like, oh yeah, we're just going to flip to schoology or whatever and that's that.
Speaker 1But I would say that's the big difference.
Speaker 3Gets way colder here. I mean if we ever got to zero in Massachusetts, that would be really rare. I mean single digits even pretty rare. It's like teens so demographically.
Speaker 2How close are you to like New York Cause? Doesn't it get really cold in New York?
Speaker 3Not not as cold as you're imagining, I mean maybe like upstate New York, cause upstate New York you're kind of near Canada, you know, kind of up like Buffalo, I mean. I don't know if you saw that when the when the playoffs were happening just this past year for the NFL, they were clearing the seats and stuff. I mean, that's a crazy city right there. They get some really extreme weather right there, but that's like upstate New York. New York City is fairly warm, like that whole side of it.
Speaker 2They make it look so cold when you see them on TV. Maybe they're just dramatic.
Speaker 3Yeah, probably, probably. We would get like hurricanes there, though oh really.
Speaker 1That's the difference.
Speaker 3Not a ton, but there are a few, like I remember growing up, and you know they don't get as bad when they get to Massachusetts because they have all that time to just kind of weaken as they come up the coastline. But if you've never been through a hurricane, it's pretty rad. I mean it's, it's you know. Not something I recommend, but it's, it's interesting. I've been through a tornado. I've been not literally through it, but tornado hurricane I guess that's it. I've never actually been through an earthquake have you.
Speaker 2No, but my uncle just moved from Key West to Orlando and they had been through a few hurricanes and that was part of the reason why they moved. They were just so sick of all the cleanup and 16 things. Well, and the Keys especially too.
Speaker 3I love the Keys. We used to vacation down in the Keys every year. Every year we'd go down to the Keys, we'd drive down. My parents never flew anywhere, which is funny because they both fly now. It's like really we had to drive literally from Massachusetts to Florida every year. It was the longest drive ever and we would spend two weeks in the Florida Keys and go down to Key West and all that Like it's awesome. Like the fishing down there is awesome. I guess the fish are good.
Speaker 1Like could totally eat the fish my parents do.
Speaker 3Yeah, but yeah, I could definitely see that, because it literally one bad hurricane and the Keys they're gone.
Speaker 1Yeah storm.
Speaker 3Um, you know, maybe some trees down somewhere and and some heavy rain, but I feel like like Florida gets heavy rain every day, like it's, it's that like. I don't know what it is, but they just get like there's one part of the day where, especially in like Southern Florida, just buckets rain and then all of a sudden it's just sunny. Yeah, I'm actually going down to Florida next weekend or this this weekend. I didn't even know what day it was this weekend actually going down to Florida next weekend or this this weekend.
Speaker 2I didn't even know what day it was this weekend Spring training starts for baseball.
Speaker 3Yeah, and so I'm going to go down, leave early Saturday and then going to go see a game on Saturday night in West Palm Beach and then the next day drive across the state to Fort Myers to see a Twins game. The Twins play this particular game in Fort Myers against the Red Sox, and so it's kind of cool, because the first game I'm going to see is an Astros game, and I'm an Astros fan.
Speaker 2I know that, like I was going to ask you that because I know you're a big Twins fan, but I was going to say, like being from the East Coast early, you know, did you have? Any teams that you took with you from that.
Speaker 3So when I was growing up, the Red Sox were really bad, like they were one of the worst teams, and so I was like you know what, I am a fair weather fan Like I'm not going to root for a team that's really, really bad, you know what I mean. And so I was like I need to pick a National League team. I'm still going to root for the Red Sox, but let me pick a National League team, league team, and it was the Astros, cause I liked a bunch of the guys that were on the team, and so it was like Lance Berkman and Bagwell and Biggio and all these guys that I really, really loved. And so I'm like, all right, they'll be my national league team. And then, what do you know, years later, they moved that team to even up the American league and the national league. They moved it to the American league and I'm like, oh, 30 times a year, that's not fun.
Speaker 3And then I moved here years later and I do like to root for the Twins because I like to go to the games. It's super close to the radio station, we're in St Louis Park and it's like two exits up in downtown and so nice afternoon game after I'm off the radio or evening game. I love going to games, so I root for the Twins. But now that's three American League teams, so like they literally play each other 100 times a year, and it's like that's not even fun. But so when I go down to Florida this weekend, though, the first game is the Astros. They're playing like the Nationals. Then the second game, because I'm only going to be there for two games. The second game is the Twins Red Sox, so I get to see all of my teams in a nice little visit to Florida, and I'm not going with my wife, I'm going with my buddy. So two days was the max before I'd get any complaints by my wife. So if I was like I'm going for four days, she'd be like yeah, no, you're not yeah.
Speaker 3So, it's like super quick, like I land Saturday afternoon, I'm home Monday afternoon.
Speaker 2My son McCoy and I. We were just in Florida last week and we went to Disney World for the first time, so that was magical.
Speaker 3Oh, did you love it?
Speaker 2Yeah, I did, I think.
Speaker 1I loved it more than he did.
Speaker 3That was the first time you'd ever been.
Speaker 2Yeah, I mean my son too, he hadn't ever been either. And now that my uncle, he moved to Orlando. So Orlando, so he was like you should come, let's do Disney.
Speaker 3And I was like okay, so what was your favorite, like how many parks did you go to?
Speaker 2All four.
Speaker 3Like on different days, like you did one park one day and Two and two Okay. So you did like the park hopper deal. Yeah, yeah, okay, cool. So what park did you love the best?
Speaker 2Animal Kingdom.
Speaker 3Really. Yeah, but I'm a big animal lover. Yeah, I could see that they do have. Like I mean, it's my Animal Kingdom now is much better than it was like when I was a kid, like they have way more rides and it's like way more of an attraction than it, than it used to be. It used to be the one where it was like you know what?
Speaker 3we whatever um, and so I'm obviously magic kingdom, like my kids love magic kingdom. Um, I've got my son on board. The best ride at disney is um space mountain. Oh, yeah, yeah, loves, love, space mountain. Um, and so we're actually gonna go. I mentioned my 40th birthday coming up in may. Um, we're going for my 40th birthday oh, are, are you, okay, yeah?
Speaker 3This trip to Florida, my wife and kids will come and we're going to go and we're going to celebrate my 40th birthday, I think on my 40th birthday we're going to be at Hollywood Studios, okay, and then the day after, because my birthday falls on a Saturday, which is really convenient. That is fun yeah.
Speaker 3On Sunday, so the day after my birthday we'll go to Magic Kingdom and again, it's a quick trip, so it's just two days at Disney. But I was like you know what you could do the whole thing, where you go to Vegas and celebrate your 40th birthday with just the wife, or you know my daughter's really at that moment where she just she hates not being with people on their birthdays. Yeah, I love that, Especially like her family. You know what I mean. Yeah, people on their birthdays. Yeah, like her family. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3Like I one time, for business, had to miss her half birthday, because half birthdays when, when kids are young, like that's a thing, and if you make it a thing, it's a thing Like we used to do presents and stuff and it's like, oh boy, what have we done? Um, but I missed her half birthday one year and she literally was like a month until she forgave me because I had to be away and I'm like, ok, well, if she cared about that and I'm not here to celebrate my 40th birthday with my daughter, she's going to disown me.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Radio DJ's Coolness and Fame
Speaker 3So it's going to be a fun family trip and I'm very excited about it. It's another thing to look forward to and you know we love Disney and it's like you said, it's a magical place, like it's just there's something about it. If people have never been it's hard to explain it, but it's. It's pretty cool to see like the kids faces light up and they love the rides. And you know it's like God forbid. We wait for anything in real life for like 45 minutes. But they're okay waiting in line to go on their favorite ride for 45 minutes. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2I know McCoy was like oh my gosh, mom, I don't think I've ever seen you like revert to such a child because like it's so nostalgic, right, like I've grown up my whole life with Disney and now you see all of it and like, when you even see like a character, it's, it's, it doesn't feel like they're a person dressed up as somebody. It's like, oh my God, there's. We saw like Timon from Lion King. I'm like that's Timon and my son's like no, that's not really, timon, I'm like no, it is.
Speaker 3No, it is that should ruin the magic for you.
Speaker 2I know, but he's like I've never seen you like this. You're a 12.
Speaker 3I'm like yes, I am when you are an adult and it's the first time that you go. Even the second time it's magical. But yeah, I mean, it's like you waited a long time before you went, I know, but that was cool to be able to finally go and spend it with your boy, that's cool.
Speaker 2That was fun yeah. So my next question for you is and I think I already know the answer based on what we just talked about.
Speaker 3But do your kids think their dad is cool, like? Do they understand? Like I mean, you're cool, you like baseball, you do fun stuff, but like you work at KDWB, yeah Well, for a while it didn't. It didn't matter because, like, for instance, um, now it matters with my daughter because I brought her to Taylor Swift right, like we went to the errors tour, she was my plus one, like that's the greatest moment of her life. And now the only problem with that is that any concerts now moving forward are going to pale in comparison. Like it's going to be like you're going to bring me to who? No, I want to go see Taylor Swift again, but we are going next month to Olivia Rodrigo which my daughter loves as well, and so that'll put me back on the cool map.
Speaker 3But I think it's it's starting. It's starting because they realize that I'm I have the ability to get them into places and get them to shows and stuff. And so for my son, I mean, he hasn't, he likes music, but I brought him to like a Jonas Brothers show. That was cool for him or whatever, but he's not like as obsessed as my daughter is on the music side of things. So, um, but I think in due time, right, like they're going to get to a point where they're like, yeah, I bet my dad can get us tickets, like really Really.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3Um, so I think, I think to an extent it is, I think, like for my daughter again. Another story about my daughter is that like my name will come up or whatever in a conversation with her, or like they'll be listening to the radio and they said something about Zach Dillon and she goes my God, they mentioned you Like you're famous, what's it like to be famous? You're famous, what's it? What's it like to?
Speaker 2be famous or, like you know, I feel like they're getting to that age in school where, like kids listen to KGWB and so then they're like she's like, oh, that's, that's your dad on the radio. What?
Speaker 3Yeah, we went ice skating the other day, open skate at like a little town rink and there were two kids that were, I guess, in my son's grade. I'd never seen these kids before, but I got on the ice and one of the kids was like, oh my God, are you Zach Dillon? And I'm like, yeah, he goes. I didn't even know what to say. I listen all the time, like what? And he's like I'm like Jonah, do you know these kids? Like, yeah, one of them's in my class. I'm like, well, my son doesn't care, but these kids evidently care who I am Right, it's just, yeah, it's a weird profession. Right, like it's back in the day we'd be on the radio and if you recognize my voice in public then you'd be like, oh, are you Zach Dillon? Now it's social media, yeah, podcast. Like I mean there's no way no one knows who. If you're listening to the radio, like what they look like you know what I mean. But before it'd be like imagining what they would look like Right Before you would know I remember that Like cause.
Speaker 2When I was young the internet wasn't a thing, right. So I remember, like what does Dave Ryan look like?
Speaker 3You know, nobody knew.
Speaker 2And same with, like Tom Bernard from KQRS, like what does that guy look like? And you'd have this image in your brain. And then when you finally saw them, like a million years later not to age them, but it was like that's what they look like you would have never thought that. But now kids don't have to wonder anymore like you would have never thought that.
Speaker 3But now kids don't have to wonder anymore.
Speaker 3When I was, when I was 17, I was working for this, this like hot AC station where I grew up in Massachusetts, and I never like and the program director didn't want me either to just like openly say how old I was, because they just wanted me to just do the job and just not relate to my age at all Because you know, know, hottie c station, you're kind of getting a little older demographic.
Speaker 3So, um, think of like cities 97, yeah, like it's a little bit older, it's probably like more so like 25, 54 year olds, you know what I mean. Um, so they didn't want, like them, to find out I was 17 again, this before like the internet really, and and all that. So nobody knew what I looked like. I just sounded age, like no one would think I was 17. And I had this one woman that would call me up consistently, like, if I remember correctly, it was like almost every day and every time that we would talk she would flirt just a little bit more you know just a little bit more, she'd be a little bit more edgy, you know.
Speaker 3like a little bit more like. And I'm like I cannot tell this woman that I'm 17. Like I need to just let her imagine that I'm whatever age she thinks I am, whoever she thinks I am. And so one time she finally mustered up enough courage to be like hey, I'm having a cookout this afternoon, if you want to come by. I'm like, hey, I would never go. But B, if I showed up, she would never believe it, she would never believe.
Speaker 3I was this guy on the radio that she listened to was basically flirting with, she would never believe it. I'd have to get. She'd think I was like the paper boy or something like that. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2Oh my gosh, that's funny. I bet you got that a lot years ago where people the same people would call all the time, Like when years ago, where people the same people would call the time, like when they did like call in your requests, like they do the request hotline.
Radio Hosts and Busy Lives
Speaker 3You probably get the same people all the all the time. Yeah, I mean to an extent. Um, it's really random to think who might be listening to the radio at any given time. I did a morning show in vegas, um, earlier in my career I think it was back in 2011, 2012 um, and we had this prison that listened to us and that kind of sketched me out because I'm like man, like I never thought about it, but like you say the wrong thing.
Speaker 3One of those people get out of prison, yeah, so it's like you just never know. I mean, radio is free, first off. Yeah, that's true, never been a thing so anyone can listen, and what else they got going on in prison back in 2012?. I mean, they're listening to the radio and so it's like man, you just never know who might be on the other end of things, that's true.
Speaker 2Who was a KDWB show host that you missed the most? Who was a KDWB show host that you missed the most?
Speaker 3Like that doesn't work here anymore.
Speaker 2Yeah, because I feel like there's been a lot of good people that have come through there. I mean, you can tell me who your favorite is now if you want to, but I didn't know if you wanted to do that.
Speaker 3I like them all the same, Kelly.
Speaker 2That's a poor answer.
Speaker 3Well, here's the thing. I work with Fallon every day. I've really grown to appreciate her and have a newfound respect for her.
Speaker 2Your guys' chemistry has grown so lovely together yeah.
Speaker 3Thank you. So I really like her and I liked her before, like when she was on the Dave Ryan show. You know she's just a good person too. And then you know Dave's great Like Dave.
Speaker 3The cool thing about Dave is that like, even though this will be 31 years doing the morning show coming up in June for him, like he still has the same passion as he did back when he started. I wasn't here when he started, obviously, but it's cool because he still brings that like passion and excitement to the show and that's pretty crazy, right. Like he could be that person that's like I'm better than everybody else. And that's pretty crazy, right. Like he could be that person that's like I'm better than everybody else. And you know, I don't even care, I'm just going to talk on the radio and whatever.
Speaker 3Like he's not even that type of person is super down to earth guy. Like you don't stay in one position for 31 years if you're not like that. You know what I mean. So like I have so much respect for him and over the eight years I've been here, like he's been nothing but like awesome to me and all of that. And then you know, we've had like a few different night people since I've been here. You know Raven, raven was here when I first got here, yeah.
Speaker 3Yeah, so I didn't really get a lot of time with Raven, but you know she was nice. Colt, like you mentioned, yeah, Yep, he's a great guy. E-white was after Colt, so E-White was here for a minute and now it's Vaunt, who's our new night guy. And so I mean, truly like I don't, I can't like pinpoint who I like currently still the most, but I would say I miss Colt because we did like a little podcast together for a little bit.
Speaker 3Two radio guys behind the microphone which I'll have to I got to revamp that.
Speaker 3Yeah, I got to bring that back to life because that was a cool thing, but that was like a me and Colt thing and you know, with technology, like we're doing this right here, we're not in the same room, right, so we still could do it, but we're both really, really busy. So the thought of like doing something on a weekly basis and, like you know, nailing it down and doing it, is just like daunting to me. Yeah, because you know, go on vacation or I've got like a super busy day that day or whatever. And it's just like the thing about podcasts and I'm sure you're realizing and figuring out is that like consistency is key. Yeah, so you know, you have a consistent rollout of a new episode on a certain day of the week at a certain time, right, and then you keep at that, because then you get people in and thinking that, ok, it's Tuesday and here comes a new episode of on our best behavior, right, or whatever it is. That's that's big for a lot of people. And that Tuesday and here comes a new episode of on our best behavior, right, or whatever it is. Um, that's that's big for a lot of people and that's big for podcasts and the success for podcasts, and so the thought of that, like sticking to that schedule right now at least, um, things are lightening up a little bit, um, um, which I won't go into detail of reasons why or whatever, but um, so may. That's why I said maybe it'll come back when I have a little extra free time, but, um, when I feel like I'm like working, and then when I'm not working, I'm like trying to be a dad and trying to like.
Speaker 3You know, I coached my son's baseball team last year. I don't know how I did it, I was the head coach and that was insane. Um, this year I that was insane. This year I took a step back and I'm like, ok, head coach thing, scheduling everything, all of that, that was a nightmare. So I'm just going to be the assistant coach this year so I can still be a part of it, still help the kids, and a lot of the kids that are coming back and playing on the team played last year, so that'll be cool. Just, the head coach thing was just too much and so, like, I try not to like take on too many new things on my plate, cause then I get the side eye from the wife Right, cause she's like and when do you expect to like be around? You know what I mean.
Speaker 2And, like we talked about earlier, your kids are at that age where, like they want to spend time with you and and I hate to tell you and maybe you remember this when you were younger but eventually, like they get too busy for you, so you got to soak it up while you can.
Speaker 3I know, and that's why we did the trip to Disney, cause I'm like, well, I don't want to be, I don't just want to go to Vegas and just party and lose a ton of money. I might as well just lose a ton of money and make memories. You know what I mean. So I mean look, when you go to Disney you lose a lot of money. I mean you might lose more than Vegas, but the experience, the memories that you make that's all worth it to me, you know I'm stuck on this like FYP right now in this news feed of like.
Speaker 3just I think it's Switzerland but I'm like I need to go to Switzerland because you haven't done that I know I've never been to Mexico. Ok, I've been to Mexico. Okay, I've been to Mexico, and that was years ago. It was Cancun, riviera Maya to be more specific. But outside of that, like I've never been anywhere, not even to Canada, I've never even been up to Canada so it's just, it's insane.
Speaker 3But I'm stuck in Switzerland right now. It's like why, why? So the thing is like my wife. She let her passport expire. That's right, yeah. So now you have to go through the whole process again. It's not like it's. It's past five years. So if you let it expire and it's been within five years, 10, 10, well, after it exp, though I think you get five years to renew it.
Speaker 2Oh, okay, I know that.
Speaker 3And then after the five years you have to go through a whole new process of getting a new one. Got it Within the five years. It's a little bit easier process If you wait more than five years. It becomes like a new application, basically Got it, and my kids don't have one.
Speaker 2Well, it's a perfect timing for everyone to get theirs, I know.
Speaker 3I know.
Speaker 2So look for Switzerland plans soon. I know, yeah, I was going to say that about Colt too. I follow him on social media so I know he's got two little girls at home too, so he's probably in that same stage of life where his wife is probably like no, you need to come home.
Speaker 3But that's the thing.
Speaker 2That's home.
Speaker 3But that's the thing, like that's one of my things for 2024 is I'm trying to say no more. Yeah, but it's just, it's hard. It's like you know, I love my job and and, um, I think when you start saying no at your job, it's like you become expendable. You know what I mean. Like oh, this guy's not even though, like you could say yes a hundred times in a row. It's like a couple of no's all of a sudden they're like well, what's?
Speaker 2up with him and you're getting the side eye at work yeah.
Speaker 3Yeah, and so it's. Uh, there's a fine line, you know, but I'm I'm trying to like, say maybe more how about that? Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 2What pop star have you not met yet that you want to? Oh, that's a really great question Because you've met a lot of people to?
Speaker 3Oh, that's a really great question. You've met a lot of people. I've actually never met Justin Bieber, I think. I think it would be cool. I've talked to him on the phone before. Like we, we did a phone interview one time when I was in Vegas, not the same. You know what I mean. I don't, I don't count like the people like during the pandemic we did a bunch of Zooms with people and stuff and I don't count that meeting them know what I mean. Like after they got off the video with me, they forget even who I was. You know what I mean.
Meeting Celebrities
Speaker 3So it's like that's not gonna happen today, right no, no, no, um, but I think Bieber would be cool. Uh, I didn't really love Bieber's early stuff, like most males didn't yeah it was a bit too bubble gummy but like I became a believer after he like released that album with like Sorry on it.
Speaker 2And once he met Haley Baldwin like game changer?
Speaker 3Oh, for sure. So I think he'd be cool to meet. I don't know Like he's, I don't know how like cool he is to me, like I feel like he might be one of those quick ones where he's just like oh hey man, I'd be like. Oh man, we talked years ago, what about it? Just kind of like brush it off, you know. I don't know. I mean, isn't that a hard?
Speaker 2thing about some people when you meet some people like you have this expectation and then sometimes like they might not be like the friendliest or or whatever, and then you kind of have a different opinion of them, Well, and I would say that I kind of get the best of these artists whenever I get to meet them, because they're briefed on the fact that I'm meeting them. Yeah.
Speaker 3Not that I'm like a big deal, but it's like, hey, you're going to meet Zach Dillon. He's the program director or whatever, wherever I was, you know, of this radio station. They play your song. So it's like, ok, well, I can't. I can't be a D to this person, because they're one one millionth of why I'm successful, right. So I'm going to be nice and make sure I'm thankful for all of it. So I think I'm not just like a random person backstage. So I typically get like either I'm like last in the meet and greet or first Like, hey, this is Zach Dillon, he runs this station or he does the afternoon show here, and all of a sudden they're like a different person.
Speaker 2Yeah oh hey man, what's up? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3Thanks so much for the support. That's really nice. And not to say that they're not like rude to other people. They're not. I mean, they don't want image either. You know what I mean. But I feel like when it's my turn they're they're a little bit more attentive and um, and respectful of it and super nice. I got like people that what, what's the one person you've met that like really left a bad taste in your mouth, like who's who's been like the medium and stuff. I'm like honestly, I don't have any of those stories because that can like they would never do that. Um, I've had really great experience. I've had short experiences, but that's just because of timing and stuff like that. You know, you gotta imagine like these artists that meet like hundreds of people every night at shows, like it just gets it must get daunting for them.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, like I would love it but hate it Like it's so hard, right, because they have to remember, like this is such a big deal for the person who is meeting them, like if, if somebody pays for meet and greet, like they spent a ton of money. It's probably a huge deal to them. And then, yeah, you're just kind of going through the motions.
Speaker 3So it's really hard to like a lot of these artists have changed these people's lives. I mean, every meet and greet that I'm ever in it's always like some story about how your music like saved my life or your music is like whatever, like it's just I can't imagine night after night hearing those stories and stuff Like it. It's gotta be like emotionally draining for these artists too. And now, since the pandemic and stuff, they've really gotten away from doing a lot of meet and greets. Like there's hardly any meet and greets anymore and I think the pandemic was a good excuse for these artists that were like kind of on the fence anyways with the meet and greets to be like you know what covid I know my uh like my queen is gwen stefani, and so my husband's always like, do you want to meet gwen stefani?
Speaker 2and I'm like no, because I have had her on a pedestal since I was you 15 years old. And what if she didn't like exceed? That would be such a letdown for me that would be ruining a 15-year-old self. Yeah, more than half of my life. Like I don't even want to, I just want to keep her where I think she is, and that's fine.
Speaker 3Well, I've met Gwen Stefani years ago. She is super sweet, very soft-spoken. It was when that tour was, when she had the Harajuku girls.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, Love Angel, Music baby yeah.
Speaker 3And so she was super cool. So if you ever get the chance, I would say you got to do it. Yeah, you got to do it, because if she's your idol, it's a cool experience when you get to meet your idol, Like I got my mom to meet Steven Tyler um years ago and she's just in love with this man.
Speaker 3She would like if Steven told my mom like Debra, leave your husband, and just you're to come on tour with me and we're going to get married. Like she would have left my dad, like no problem, like it's just, she was obsessed with this guy.
Speaker 3And I got her to meet him back when I was like 16 because I was already like in the circuit of like knowing artist relations and all that, and so she was forever grateful for it. And then years later I was in um, I was in California, um, at a artist showcase. It was for Rita Ora. Do you remember Rita Ora? Yeah, more of like, more of like a socialite when she came over, but she like wanted to launch a pop career in America and so I was in California at the Viper Room, very, very small it's about as big as this freaking studio. I feel like it's not that big of a venue, very claustrophobic feeling.
Speaker 3But anyways, I'm at that venue and I'm with the vice president of Columbia Records at the time, like just sitting next to her, and she goes hey, by the way, don't tell anyone, but Steven Tyler might come to to this time like where are you gonna put this guy? Excuse me, steven tyler, that's gonna cause chaos. Yeah, like rita, or is fine, like nobody really even knows who she is at that moment. Like it's like you can put steven tyler walks through these doors you kidding me, and sure as crap. This guy walks through like midnight or whatever time. It was just because he wanted to like maybe collab with her and so he wanted to see her firsthand and he was on Columbia at the time and so it just they made it happen and anyways, end of the night, I'm like the first out of that venue because I'm like I need to get out of here.
Speaker 3We were staying right below the Viper Room, which is a hotel, I don't remember the name of it, but in the lobby is steven tyler and I walk up to him and I'm because I'm still with the woman from columbia records and I'm like you think I can say hi to him or whatever. And she's like, yeah, he's super cool. And so I walk up to him, like hey, steven, like like my mom is like a massive fan. We met you years ago at river rave in boston and like all this stuff. He goes where's your mom at, mom at, and I was like she's in Florida right now. I should get her on the phone, like what.
Speaker 3Now this is like 2 am.
Speaker 2Right, and so we're going to answer the phone.
Speaker 3I'm going to call my mom and she's going to be like something's wrong Cause it's super late. So I call my mom like hey mom, everything right, everything Right. You know, she's always at like on the edge, mom, or like she thinks every time you call her something's wrong. And so I'm like yeah, yeah, but um, stephen tyler wants to say hi, she's like what? And so he takes my phone, goes in the corner of the lobby for five minutes and talks to my mom on the phone. I mean, this is my mom's hero yeah, that is so sweet and so um, I asked her like afterwards, like what did you guys talk about?
Speaker 3And she's like, well, he just bought a place in Maui and my mom at the time was living in Key West and so they were comparing like the two destinations, you know, like because he was thinking about the Keys but opted to go to Hawaii. And so I'm like this is crazy. Like in no other world, do world, you know what I mean. And so, and she's met him a couple of times since then. We had a really cool experience in Vegas with uh, with him and Joe Perry, and um, and so she's she's met him, I think now like four times.
Casual Conversation With Zach Dillon
Speaker 3So it's like they're buddies you know yeah yeah, he even kissed her on the lips once. Oh and she, like she melted. I love that Like where do I go from here? I just got kissed on the lips by Steven Tyler. I'm like you may not want to be proud about that you may be kissing on the lips.
Speaker 2Do you know where those lips have been?
Speaker 3Yeah, no kidding, yikes Super nice guy though. Yikes Super nice guy though, and it's been cool to see, like my mom, just I mean she's just a wonderful woman and that's the least I can do for her is connect her with Steven Tyler. You know, it would have been great if he, like, made her one of his wives. You know, like over the years it would have been your stepdad. Wouldn't that be cool. Steven Tyler's my stepdad. That's a whole different story.
Speaker 2Oh, Zach, is there anything?
Speaker 3else you want to share? I don't know. I mean, I think this has been fun just to like talk. And you know like when we talk for a long period of time on the radio it's always like we got to go into a song or like into commercials or something like that, and it's very like few and far between where you get to talk. We've talked for 55 minutes, so it's just I keep taking sips because I'm getting parched. You know what I mean. It's like a lot of talking.
Speaker 2Well, when I hear you tomorrow on the radio and your voice is a little hoarse, I'll be like that was me.
Speaker 3Yeah right, I'm the reason why he's not on the radio today. Yeah right, I'm the reason why he's not on the radio today. He woke up with laryngitis.
Speaker 2Well, zach I just want to thank you so much for coming on the podcast and chatting with me tonight. It was so lovely to have you yeah no thanks for having me.
Speaker 3This has been a lot of fun. I will come back at some point.
Speaker 2Okay, I don't want to push you because you're a maybe man now.
Speaker 3Do you have return guests?
Speaker 2Yeah, sure, I have been doing a lot of interviews. It's been really great. I actually do have another one I'm doing tonight. That's a repeat. We talked about the North Shore and now we're going to talk about some health issue stuff. I work in the medical field, so that's kind of my near and dear. Yeah, so that will be a repeat. That'll be fun.
Speaker 3That's awesome. Well, best of luck to you. I will make sure to share this out. Let's have this be the most listened to on our best behavior podcast ever.
Speaker 2Bring it.
Speaker 3All right.
Speaker 2Zach, I'll see you soon, okay.
Speaker 3Thanks for having me, kelly, all right.
Speaker 2Bye-bye.
Speaker 3See ya, thanks for having me. Kelly, alright, bye bye.
Speaker 2Don't you love Zach Dillon more than you did?
Speaker 1yeah, he did really good on that stage yeah, I like him.
Speaker 2I've met him a handful of times and having this long conversation with him was it was very enjoyable. I'm a huge KDWB fan. I like most of the people on KDWB, so it's been it's been a real journey it's been like kind of like a bucket list thing for me to be able to like be friends with these guys now it's great.
Speaker 1I'm not gonna lie, this peach flavor is better than that berry flavor peach is better than which berry cause?
Speaker 2there's raspberry, blackberry and strawberry it's like so bitter it's not good. I'll tell you the order of clearly Canadian delights.
Speaker 1Strawberry. Strawberry is on top Cherry. Yeah, that's a good one, Raspberry yeah.
Speaker 2Blackberry Peach. That's all the flavors. Yeah, dude, what? So? That's the order of good. I'm telling you, do you agree, you better?
Speaker 1I think peaches before blackberry, though, yeah.
Speaker 2Blackberry is nasty. I get my peaches out in Georgia.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, shit.
Speaker 2Oh.
Speaker 1Mackie, high heels on my dippies.
Speaker 2I wanted to do that one. Okay, are you ready for your driver's ed question?
Speaker 1Blueberry honey mustard. Let's get that permit, blueberry honey mustard.
Speaker 2Let's get that permit. Blueberry honey mustard let's get that permit. Are you going?
Speaker 1to pass this permit. Test. Blueberry honey mustard.
Speaker 2Ready.
Speaker 1Yeah, blueberry honey mustard, do you like?
Speaker 2blueberry honey mustard Hell yeah, I like blueberry honey mustard. That reminds me of.
Speaker 1Chicken ravioli.
Speaker 2There's a song I can't think of by Harry Styles, and it's like Watermelon sugar high.
Speaker 1Watermelon sugar high.
Speaker 2watermelon sugar high that reminds me of blueberry honey mustard.
Speaker 1Blueberry honey mustard. All right, lock in. I'm locked. The freaking dude. I've never even gotten on this question in the driver's head, but let's do it, I'm ready.
Speaker 2What is the best way to deal with tailgaters? Do you? Speed up to increase the distance between you and the tailgater. Okay, do you understand what that means.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2Okay, okay, do you slam on your?
Speaker 1brakes to get the driver to back off.
Speaker 2Okay, do you change lanes or gradually slow down to encourage them to pass?
Speaker 1Oh, okay, I think you or oh wait.
Speaker 2What the frick Do you ignore them?
Speaker 1I low-key think you change lanes.
Speaker 2It depends on Are you in the fast lane or the slow lane, because if you're in the fast lane, then you should definitely move over.
Speaker 1So then what the frick? Okay, then I, I increase speed. Then I would ignore them, mccoy, oh sorry.
Speaker 2My bad.
Speaker 1God, you're gross. I'm sorry it had to happen.
Speaker 2It didn't. I'm sorry it didn't have to happen. I'm sorry, you're not sorry, all right, do you have, would you rather? Oh, hang on, wait. So what's the answer?
Speaker 1Ignore them, oh really yes, just let them do whatever they want to do. What if?
Speaker 2they drive into me.
Speaker 1What if they do? What if they're stupid?
Speaker 2Well, that's not the scenario. Okay, what would you do if they drive into you?
Speaker 1I don't know.
Speaker 2Let's talk about that Exchange insurance. There you go, call the cops, okay, and then exchange insurance, but I don't know if somebody rammed into me upset. I don't know if I would want to get out of the car.
Speaker 1You can't do that. That's not how it works.
Speaker 2That was for you to see, not for anyone else to hear.
Speaker 1You can't do that, though you wouldn't actually, I'm just saying I would be prepared for anything to happen.
Speaker 2There would probably be some weird fucker anyways. Probably. That's why I would be. You're funny, all right.
Speaker 1What's next?
Speaker 2All right, one more thing before the. Would you rather what is?
Speaker 1that All right All right.
Speaker 2So I want I'm encouraging listeners to write into the show. So we're trying to try something new. So anyone listening to the show this is what we want you to write in about and tell us your story and then we will read it on our show. So anyone listening who quit a job without notice anyone notice, like usually when you like, when I quit my job, like I said, hey, I am putting in my notice, I'm gonna be done on this day, so you give them, like, some time to find a replacement?
Speaker 1why don't you just put like you're gonna be done last week, when you because I wanted to make more money, oh okay.
Speaker 2And when I'm at work, I make more, I make money. When I'm at home, I don't make money, I guess.
Speaker 1I'm at home, I don't make money, I guess, so All right. So anyone listening, wait, your job doesn't give you money when you're not on work, right? Oh, okay, unless.
Speaker 2I have vacation time. Don't some jobs have that? Yeah, you like have vacation time? Oh, okay, so you can use that. But when you're leaving a job you can continue to work and then you can still cash out your vacation time and so then you get paid that on top. So it's almost like you're kind of getting like double pay. Okay, I see, all right. So anyone listening who quit a job without a notice, anyone listening who can't stand their neighbor's pet call in not call him we don't have a phone number write in and tell us your story at on our best behavior, at yahoocom or you can DM us on any social media.
Speaker 1What does Zach do? Zach Dillon, yeah, you really thought it was what's the show called that he used to do Zach Dillon, the Zach Dillon Show. No Fallon and Zach.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1The KDWB, where they call in people and ask them questions or stuff. What's the show?
Speaker 2The morning show, that's dave ryan show. Oh, anyway, anyway, okay, are you ready?
Speaker 1no, I'm ready, yes, no yes, okay.
Speaker 2would you rather, or did? Have you ever quit a job without putting in a notice? Or do you have a neighbor who's pet you can't stand? No, okay. Well, last time you had a story about eating dog food, because that's what we talked about.
Speaker 1I did, it wasn't that bad it was just really dry and boring.
Speaker 2All right.
Speaker 1What's your would you rather? Would you rather fly into outer space in a UFO or explore deep underwater in a submarine?
Speaker 2And when you're saying this, you mean like super high into outer space or super deep into the ocean.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2The ocean depth is my biggest fear.
Speaker 1Don't you get like your legs are hurting because it's so deep, rock and bend I've heard like it, like does, because like it gets colder down there, and like your head gets like head gets compressed, you pass out because of the pressure.
Speaker 2I think that there's variables in outer space too Oxygen and gravity. You'd have to be prepared for that.
Speaker 1I love oxygen. What if the submarine gets in and I'm screwed?
Speaker 2That submarine that just exploded it exploded Well it went missing and then it like I think that's what happened. It went too deep and the pressure like poof.
Speaker 1Yeah, it did. Isn't that what happened? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2So what are you picking?
Speaker 1I want to go explore deep underwater.
Speaker 2You do yeah.
Speaker 1You're crazy. I'm not crazy. I'm not going to have some crappy thing that they had. It's going to be like heavy-duty metal. How do you know? You don't know what you're going to get. Yeah, but if I ain't getting something good, then I ain't doing it. It better be heavy-duty.
Speaker 2No, it's, would you rather?
Speaker 1Yeah, so it's one or the other. I never you don't get to say, oh, your submarine doesn't meet my criteria. I'm out I guess I'm just going to do it. You're stuck, you're committed. I guess they better add some deployable thing that makes it go to the top of the water. If I'm cooked, all right. So I'm just pulling, I'm going to go all the way up.
Speaker 2All right, are you ready for a funny joke?
Speaker 1Yep, I'm ready for the.
Speaker 2I know I already told you this one, so pretend like you don't know. What do you call? Three Fords in the driveway.
Speaker 1Actually, I don't even remember.
Speaker 2A Ford Fiesta.
Speaker 1I still don't even understand the joke.
Speaker 2Fiesta means party.
Speaker 1Oh yeah.
Speaker 2So what do you call three Fords?
Speaker 1Ford is a kind of car, yeah, in the driveway a Ford, because it's all Fords. Yeah, okay. Fiesta it's a party.
Speaker 2But a Ford Fiesta is also a car.
Speaker 1Okay, I see.
Speaker 2Got it, I see. Oh my gosh, you made the joke not funny and that was a funny joke, I'm sorry. All right, everyone. Thank you for listening to our show. Make sure you support the show. You can subscribe. It is free to subscribe to our show.
Speaker 2Share our show, like our show, listen to our show member, I'm kidding tell us, tell your friends about us, when they're like, oh, what podcast do you listen to? Oh, I listen to this great podcast called honor best behavior. Yeah, it's kelly and mac, mom and son, and they are like the best.
Speaker 1Yep, you know it, that's us guys.
Podcast Break for Summer Fun
Speaker 2You can also support us on Buy Me a Coffee. Buzzsprout, venmo. Hey, do you have a story, something you're passionate about and you want to talk about? Let us know. Maybe you're a business owner and maybe you want to advertise, dm or email us and we oh, fun, fun fact I just want to let you know I think we're gonna do a couple more podcasts, but for the summer we're gonna take a break and only do a couple bonus episodes over the summer so why?
Speaker 2because we're gonna enjoy the summer I guess, and I'm gonna do a bunch of I'm still gonna be podcasting because I'm gonna just build up a bunch of interviews, okay, and then that way I can just oh, just have them all ready for later, after the summer.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's what I do. You just call me.
Speaker 2Joe Rogan, I'll be here. You are funny Mom, hey McCoy.
Speaker 1I love you. I love you too, that's for you why? Has your heart got a finger going in.
Speaker 2Well, that's the best I can do, trying to do my microphone All right. I love you, kiddo. Thanks everyone for listening and we will be back, you know, maybe next week, maybe the week after that.
Speaker 1Let's see what we feel like you never know what's going to happen. I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
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