New Music - Taylor Swift! Friko! Ederlezi! Fabiana Palladino! Guests!

We’re a music review podcast, so of course we have some thoughts on the biggest music release of the year (deepest sympathies, Cowboy Carter, it was fun while it lasted) from the biggest pop star of her era(s). Find out what Iain and Andrew (podcasters don’t come more tortured or poetic) make of Taylor Swift’s latest grand statement. It’s not exclusively planet-swallowing superstars on their 11th album on @weheardwonders, however - we also play and share our thoughts on tracks from four of 2024’s more notable debut LPs, courtesy of indie noise-merchants Friko, noir-pop boat-dwellers Ederlezi, pop-funk perfectionist Fabiana Palladino and DIY sound-collagists Guests. Something immaculate and timeless has The Vinyl Word. Listen to We Heard Wonders on your podcast platform of choice; tell your friends that we’re back; like, subscribe and recommend; catch up with previous editions and support the show by buying us a Coffee (link in the show’s bio). 

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Andrew's iPhone: It's a mess. Hello, and welcome to. We heard wonders. The music podcast. That's under this year, apparently.

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Alternate Line: obviously, everyone who's obsessed with TV and who love games all talking about that right?

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Alternate Line: a newspaper article about like football, or like anything having a game of thrones, metaphor horseshoe into somewhere or should shoe on in it somewhere. And I feel like that's the same thing that's happening with the with Taylor Swift. At the moment. You cannot go anywhere in the media at the moment without heating

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Andrew's iPhone: Yes, that's true. Yeah. So so, yeah, so I think, has it been kind of remiss of us as a music, podcast. Not to

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Andrew's iPhone: comment on. You know the biggest pop release of the year, I guess, along with the Beyonces cowboy cars.

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Andrew's iPhone: you know the biggest pop release of the year by the biggest pop star in the world. Kind of thing you can. You kinda have to

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Andrew's iPhone: and pay some kind of lip service to that, and and give an opinion on it.

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Andrew's iPhone: But yeah, I've also chosen 4 records

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Andrew's iPhone: by 4 kind of smaller artists, if you like. I guess everybody's smaller than Taylor, but everyone's smaller.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah. But re, relatively new artists as well. So retail is on our eleventh album at this point. So they they have a 4 records that I've chosen to focus on our 4 debuts that have come out

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Andrew's iPhone: over the last few months.

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Andrew's iPhone: So I thought that'd be quite a nice way of doing it. And there wasn't really that many new big releases

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Andrew's iPhone: And last week, because it was Record store day, Saturday there. So so they they tend to kind of leave that.

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Andrew's iPhone: Pretty useful.

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Alternate Line: To all those who celebrate.

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Andrew's iPhone: Indeed.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yes, I just thought that'd be a good way to to kind of you know, to look back at some of the

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Andrew's iPhone: the kind of notable debuts that we haven't had the chance to talk about, so far as well as talking about Miss Swift.

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Andrew's iPhone: And my name is Andrew. I buy records and write about them on Instagram at Kid, age 86.

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Alternate Line: That is the Taylor Swift of Instagram pages, which is not a great metaphor, because I think she probably just has one, and that is the Taylor Swift of Instagram pages.

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Alternate Line: but the idea! I love him. This track that you put on this playlist here. So what you're getting is the purest, the purest form.

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Andrew's iPhone: That is very impressive.

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Alternate Line: Thank you. It was I'd like to tell you it was a struggle in that, but it was no problem at all.

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Alternate Line: The West was one I forget. If this was ever fun. I just learned these people.

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Andrew's iPhone: You're right, you're right. I I think we'll we'll, I think, Taylor Swift.

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Andrew's iPhone: She kind of made her name on doing these kind of confessional style songs about her life.

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Andrew's iPhone: you know, explicitly, fiction and it that's all kind of an interesting move for her, and and that that got a lot of kind of Muses on board at that point as well. When people that that maybe kind of dismissed her in the past. We're kind of like these. These records are actually really good, but I think, like the last couple of records. And certainly with this album cycle. She is kind of

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Andrew's iPhone: This is horror, and this is based on her experiences.

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Andrew's iPhone: A relationship with Matty Healy from 1975. So yeah, he

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Andrew's iPhone: the the I think she. She's previously been good at with a guy for 6 years an actor.

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Andrew's iPhone: and whose name is Joe Alwyn, who had to look up. But but yeah, she met with him for 6 years, and then she had a 3 months with Matt Healy and and the per the per guy per Joe doesn't get a look in. It's all it's all about, Matty, as far as I can tell on this record. So and th. There's a couple of references to the new Travis Kelsey is that his name.

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Andrew's iPhone: I mean, yeah, I mean, I picked this track because well, I was instantly drawn to the title. I I I will have you

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Andrew's iPhone: bad moving the little mermaids on my podcast Ian, because that was like that was like the first film that I kind of remember loving gonna still kind of love it today for that reason. What year was it released.

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Andrew's iPhone: There you go. Yeah. Yup. So so yeah, th, those.

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Andrew's iPhone: Well, there's so many like, you know, Taylor obsessively, you're talking about is like, Oh, it's 1989. What does it all mean, you know is, this is a lot of that going on, and yes, so I was drawn to the title. But also, I think this is kind of representative of the album a lot of ways, and because of that radical content. So and the track is that kind of

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Andrew's iPhone: you know, it's the bad boy who she's infatuated with

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Andrew's iPhone: and in terms of the tone as well. So there's a real kind of histrionic, almost hysterical tone to to this track. I think a a. And this track is kind of

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Andrew's iPhone: She's even for just listing things that happened in our life that that don't have any kind of poetic stuff. There was that kind of much shared thing track, and the the title track was was like you. You smoked, and then 8 7 bars of chocolate, and then we declared Charlie poof! Should be a bigger artist.

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Alternate Line: Literally crashing through the the blind. There, that is freako indie rock jewel from Chicago, Illinois, says the Internet.

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Andrew's iPhone: Thank you. Yeah. So, as you see, Frico, are our Chicago 2 piece made of Nico Capitan on vocals and guitar, and Bailey Minson Burger

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Andrew's iPhone: I've seen a few clips of them live as well in the the kind of

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Andrew's iPhone: you know. Stretch out the band a little bit with some members they got. They actually got some base in there. And

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Andrew's iPhone: I think there's maybe another guitarist, perhaps. But but yeah, they they make up a wonderful racket, and they're signed to Ato records.

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Andrew's iPhone: and they've been a permanent fixture on the Chicago music scene for the last couple of years.

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Andrew's iPhone: and this is a track from their debut record, which came out

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Andrew's iPhone: a couple of months ago now. And so I have. I've I've have had this track and this album in my head

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Andrew's iPhone: for a few months. But yeah, just just trying to find the right place to bring it in.

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Andrew's iPhone: And and I'm I'm glad that I've I'm glad that I'm doing that, so I hope people don't feel like this is kind of old news. The fact that it came out of February whatever. But music moves so fast these days. But I think it's it's important to kind of.

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Andrew's iPhone: shine some light on on on you acts like this because I think this this is a real kind of shot in the arm, kind of thing, and a real kind of call to arms. This album

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Andrew's iPhone: the album was called, where we've been, where we go from here.

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Andrew's iPhone: And as I kind of throw back to a lot of kind of 2,000, Andy.

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Andrew's iPhone: a lot of things that that that I like, and and it's kind of like the best example of that that I've heard in a little while, especially from a new band.

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Andrew's iPhone: And so it's it's quite exciting, I think.

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Andrew's iPhone: There's a there's a the opening table to track on the albums this kind of ambitious, slow build of a track, and it's got us bits of like arcade fire in there and broken social scene

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Andrew's iPhone: things like that. And and then there's other tracks that remind me of is the band, the wrens who who who are who around that time that we're a bit of a kind of coal band that I really liked.

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Andrew's iPhone: And then you've kind of got. There's a lot of that kind of angsty, early, bright eyes in there, I think a lot of those kind of Saddle Creek groups

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Andrew's iPhone: as well as a kind of noisy dynam dynamism of somebody like dinosaur, Junior as well, that kind of

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Andrew's iPhone: early nineties grunge stuff. So so yeah, I just think it's

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Andrew's iPhone: just just a just a really

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Andrew's iPhone: noise that they create. I've I've got a

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Andrew's iPhone: a quote here from a consequence of sound website says.

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Andrew's iPhone: and this is, this is a lot of previous track bank. It kind of fits what they do pretty well perfectly encapsulates the it comes into chrome, which is the track, perfectly encapsulates. How Fico's music toggles between loud and quiet, thoughtful and self deprecating or never expressing anything less than the unbridled joy of noise.

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Andrew's iPhone: and I think I think that kind of sums it up really well, but kind of idea of joy, of noise.

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Andrew's iPhone: And the album's really strong record, I would say, it's like, it's like 9 min. It's already 9 tracks, 35 min. So it's it really kind of shoots by, but

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Alternate Line: but also stranger things like remember. Jg. 72. Remember them.

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Andrew's iPhone: Oh, wow, yeah, yeah.

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Andrew's iPhone: See them at the Parliament.

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Andrew's iPhone: Sense, budget.

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Andrew's iPhone: But.

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Alternate Line: Well done, fico!

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Andrew's iPhone: This one, the frequency.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

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Andrew's iPhone: That's right.

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Alternate Line: That means there's probably other acts like this. Is there anyone of note that you you can recommend? Or is this is this cutting, cutting edge, bleeding? Raise our edge. Stuff.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, it's it's not a scene that I'm too familiar with to be honest. And but it's a lot of those groups that's kind of come out of.

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Andrew's iPhone: and the the Saddle Saddle Creek

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Andrew's iPhone: label. I think you know the bright bright eyes label

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Andrew's iPhone: and just

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Andrew's iPhone: yeah, I'm I I won't proclaim to to know too much about it.

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Andrew's iPhone: But but yeah, that's that's cool. And it it it just it feels it feels fresh and feels and energetic and exciting.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, really know it.

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Alternate Line: Okay, man, you are on a hot streak. You are on a hot streak. Last week's podcast was packed with crackers.

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Andrew's iPhone: Well, it's enough of duo.

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Andrew's iPhone: but this time a boat dwelling one

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, you know, cause cause that's the thing that people do.

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Andrew's iPhone: The.

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Andrew's iPhone: That that is actually what was in my head

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Andrew's iPhone: ever shorter age. But

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Andrew's iPhone: The

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Andrew's iPhone: yes, Hannah Nicholson and David Page are a London based

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Andrew's iPhone: a London-based boat dwellers who have cruised the river Thames whilst writing, play, and self-producing their debut album.

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Andrew's iPhone: And yeah, so

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Andrew's iPhone: Ed, either Leslie is a festival celebrating the return of springtime.

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Andrew's iPhone: But here the name, the inspiration for the name is taken from the name of the boat.

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Andrew's iPhone: which is called Edelweissy.

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Andrew's iPhone: and the boat kind of is is they've described as their muse, their refuge, and the recording studio

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Andrew's iPhone: throughout 2023. So that's who recorded this record on the other lessee boat, which is really cool.

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Andrew's iPhone: And yeah, I mean the the I mean, you can tell from the track that they're clearly experienced and accomplished musicians, even though this is their debut

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Andrew's iPhone: with this project, and that is the case. So David has played base with the pretenders. He's worked with people like Edwin Collins a.

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Andrew's iPhone: He was guitarist with the black pumas for a while.

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Andrew's iPhone: and he's just one of those.

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Andrew's iPhone: you know, really safe pair of hands, I guess, as a session

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Andrew's iPhone: player, and and a touring guitarist as well.

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Andrew's iPhone: And then you've got Hannah who's

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Andrew's iPhone: solo? Art is their own right, but also she's she sang with people like Ellie Goulding, Gary Barlow.

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Andrew's iPhone: Jonathan, Jeremiah. So so really kind of a collective range of people that they that they've worked with. And now they've kind of combined for this project, either, Lesi. And they're really kind of flowing back to

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Andrew's iPhone: it's that kind of classic

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Andrew's iPhone: 60 s.

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Andrew's iPhone: Sounded, I guess, in terms of the

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Andrew's iPhone: the sound palette, but the production and that kind of classic song writing, as well.

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Alternate Line: Should one say dusty Springfield? Should one say the carpenters a little bit? Should one say these things.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, I think that's fair. You don't hear it as much in this track, but there's a few tracks where the the second tandem with each other, and it's very much in that kind of Lee and Nancy

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Andrew's iPhone: kind of kind of style that works really really well and very that kind of noir pop

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Andrew's iPhone: of of of the sixties, and and th. There's some tracks where there's this really kind of gorgeous, rich, base tone of of like search Beansburg's records.

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Andrew's iPhone: And just so. So. Some tracks that are a little bit more kind of moody and atmospheric as well. So again, it's a record that packs a lot into.

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Andrew's iPhone: and quite a short amount of time. So there's 10 songs, 32 min.

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Andrew's iPhone: and I mean, even you can listen to this, Adel Lesi and the Freako Record.

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Alternate Line: I know what you're going to see. Yeah, I was thinking of myself, yeah.

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Andrew's iPhone: And and the time they would take to to just listen to the standard version of the Taylor record, you know.

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Andrew's iPhone: So so I'd recommend people do that and check this out.

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Andrew's iPhone: I don't know if it was a little bit prejudiced on my part when I saw some of those names, you know. You're kind of Ellie Gouldens and Gary Barlow's you.

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Andrew's iPhone: of certain records that are kind of working in the style. Thicker things, like a farish from the horror, says Project, cat size, or even things like you know, Mark Lannock and Isabel Campbell when they were collaborating those those kinds of records maybe had a little bit more of a kinda

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, that. That's that's that is kind of a point. A lot of that is like, you know, if this isn't, then there's something wrong with the system, cause it's like it should, it should be cause it's it's so good.

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Andrew's iPhone: and yeah, yeah, they suffered about the kind of right of the track as well. They've they've described it as an an environmental protest song, a plea for change for the next generation.

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Andrew's iPhone: but that that that is a kind of an ongoing struggle, I guess, but it's even more relevant now, you know. So even though they're kind of referencing, a lot of sounds of the past. It's it's a kind of relevant message, I guess, and

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Andrew's iPhone: it's just that that that orchestral pop suite that it's got.

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Andrew's iPhone: I guess that must be the must be one of the things about being a session musician or the to the musician. You just pick up all these tricks.

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Andrew's iPhone: You know all these kind of

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Andrew's iPhone: Oh, no, absolutely absolutely. But you know, I think you know. But but they I you know you mean you're saying, how would they conceive this, you know.

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Andrew's iPhone: And just yeah, just the

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Andrew's iPhone: the period attention to detail was, is spot on on this, on this track and on the as well.

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Alternate Line: Well, this one took me by surprise, and I think anyone who listens this track you'll obviously be coming to it, or most of you probably coming to fresh as well. This is Fabiana Paladino. Stay with me through the night, and this on my first listening. The first 15 s

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Andrew's iPhone: It really is. Yeah.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, absolutely. And we we are talking about tracks that should be on radio 2 or tracks that should be hits. You know. I think this is this, this should be this. If there was any justice, this would be a big hit record. I think this is such a brilliant song.

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Andrew's iPhone: And and

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Andrew's iPhone: yeah, I mean, we're talking about the fact that these are all debuts. But this is our debut a long time in the making. I think she's she's been working on this record for over 5 years.

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Andrew's iPhone: and she's kind of drip. Fed a few tracks over over that time, and she's

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Andrew's iPhone: done some collaborations, mainly with a a guy called Edge Paul, who who's a really kind of

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Andrew's iPhone: and a and who who's kind of gathered a real kind of following, even though he's he's kind of released quite a few records over over quite a moment of years as well. And but but yeah, th, this, this record again came out a few weeks ago.

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Andrew's iPhone: And yeah, it's just just a ridiculously accomplished record for a self titled debut.

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Andrew's iPhone: M,

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Andrew's iPhone: and just just no fat at all in these tracks like

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Andrew's iPhone: 10 tracks, and they're all just just off that quality, really.

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Andrew's iPhone: she's the daughter of the legendary session, Bassist Pena.

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Andrew's iPhone: Do you know? Yeah, absolutely. And and I think she's kind of pulled in a lot of his.

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Andrew's iPhone: And

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Andrew's iPhone: your contacts as well as well as kind of people that have been working with Ipo as well. So the musicianship on this record is just absolutely impeccable and spawn.

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Andrew's iPhone: and she's but she produced it herself.

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Andrew's iPhone: and so she's she's obviously kind of picked up a lot of tricks

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Andrew's iPhone: over time as well. And yeah, as you say, there's a lot of kind of references to eighties

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Andrew's iPhone: and nineties pop in R and B, and so, and Disco.

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Andrew's iPhone: and she's talked about kind of filtering it through a modern lens.

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Andrew's iPhone: and which which I can kind of see. And so yeah, so there's elements of like Janet Jackson, their prints. And there's an artist who I really like, called Natalie Prass, who who had a record. She she she released a debut record through Matthew E. Waits

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Andrew's iPhone: and and and the the first record was this really lovely orchestral

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Andrew's iPhone: art folk type record. But for the debut she as to for the follow up. She kind of

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Andrew's iPhone: went in the direction which was obviously kind of close to our her heart, which was this kind of clipped eighties funk sound, and it was a record called the Future in the past. I think that this that record would make a really cool double bill with this Fabiana Paladino record, and it's kind of a pulling from a similar point as well.

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Andrew's iPhone: that's record. Got a a glowing 5 Star review from Alexis Petrie. This in the Guardian. Who's just a sucker for this kind of thing, I think. Just anything that's a kind of slightly warped take on

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Andrew's iPhone: eighties. Hop and Disco. He just kind of laps up, and I think sometimes he can kind of overstate the weirdness and the post. Modern nature of of things like this. And he. He talks about the push in the pool of the albums

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Andrew's iPhone: sounded

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Andrew's iPhone: the comfortably, he says, the comfortingly familiar up against modernity, the super slickness of mid eighties influences against the more ramshackle approach of 2024

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Andrew's iPhone: but, as I said, that's a little bit overstated. I think this is just really well performed

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Andrew's iPhone: produced in Britain. Music.

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Andrew's iPhone: And

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Andrew's iPhone: yeah, I'd really recommend people checking out this record, although you'll hear a more accomplished debut than this.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, I'm I'm not really sure. I think he's maybe talking about like distortion and things like that. Maybe that are used

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Andrew's iPhone: on on kind of modern R and B tracks and things like that. But but yeah, I don't. I don't really hear much of it here. I think.

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Andrew's iPhone: Think, as I say, I think he's kind of overstating that. The the idea that I think is is

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Andrew's iPhone: it's gotta create the bolstered. I I would say fair for this because we got the bolstered production values of now rather than being kind of decaded anyway, or more.

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Andrew's iPhone: I would I would say so, I would say so.

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Andrew's iPhone: Whatever.

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Andrew's iPhone: As far as is, that the cool term.

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Andrew's iPhone: I think it would be in terms of like, what's actually the bare bones of it. Yeah, absolutely.

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Andrew's iPhone: But it doesn't

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Andrew's iPhone: go ahead.

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Andrew's iPhone: Sure. Yeah.

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Alternate Line: Unless you're gonna tell me. Otherwise, I don't think you will either.

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Andrew's iPhone: No, no, I I was hoping that you would maybe be shared someplace.

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Andrew's iPhone: What the what the track's actually about.

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Andrew's iPhone: But yeah, it's

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Andrew's iPhone: I mean, they talk. I mean, they're called guests. They talk about the the the kind of

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Andrew's iPhone: inspired by this, I said, the interested in th. The quite literal notion of being a guest. What I take from that is that kind of idea of almost kind of like eavesdropping on some kind of conversation or interaction that's happening. And

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Andrew's iPhone: there there are throughout the album. There's there's a lot of voices in the foreground, but also in the background, kind of mumbling away, and they all kind of.

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Andrew's iPhone: They almost collide into each other and form some kind of background hum

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Andrew's iPhone: throughout a lot of the record and create a kind of sense of ambience.

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Andrew's iPhone: And and yeah, I mean, a lot of the lorics are quite inscrutable, and I don't know if it is that kind of chopped up technique you know that kind of th that boys to use. But there's there's a lot of just everything feels kind of chopped up. And, as you say, kind of post modern about this this project, that kind of sense, a kind of musical collage.

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Andrew's iPhone: and I I feel like the the the kind of working practices suggest an awareness of. He knows of bleak strategy cards as well.

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Andrew's iPhone: You know they they talk about the first fault being the best fought and

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Andrew's iPhone: pressing unknown buttons and walking head first into mistakes.

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Andrew's iPhone: And yeah, there's just a real kind of sense of playfulness and and humor as well about the about the project, which is, which is really cool.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah. And so, as you say it's

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Andrew's iPhone: it. It's well, I don't know if you have said, but yeah, Jessica Higgins is one part of the the project. I get another duo

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Andrew's iPhone: so Jessica Higgins and Matthew Walker.

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Andrew's iPhone: and they're from Glasgow.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, yeah.

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Andrew's iPhone: It was, it was. It was definitely one of the things that first appealed to me about. It is the Glasgow connection, and it's been a wee while since we played something from Glasgow, so.

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Andrew's iPhone: And yeah, th, it says they. They've been closely tied with Diy music art and publishing for over a decade.

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Andrew's iPhone: And and yeah, I mean, I I think we we are talking about the kind of bare bones of the track. I think that pretty much is that. And then they're experimenting with a lot of, as I say, kind of sound collage ideas.

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Andrew's iPhone: a sampling, improvisation, repetition.

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Andrew's iPhone: and and we were talking a lot about nostalgia last week in relation to the Sunday Lee record. And I think that this project just kind of aches

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Andrew's iPhone: with pangs of nostalgia. It's just it's just really kind of got the albums called. I wish I was special.

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Andrew's iPhone: and you can't really hear that phrase without thinking of creep.

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Andrew's iPhone: Money and

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Andrew's iPhone: nineties teenage angst.

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Andrew's iPhone: and I think the front covers like.

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Andrew's iPhone: and somebody's fridge, or something like that. And there's always.

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Alternate Line: That's a collage as well, isn't it? Yeah.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, there's all these ticket stubs and and photographs and things like that. So and there is a real kind of sense of

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Andrew's iPhone: nostalgia, and and

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Andrew's iPhone: even around even that title. I wish I was special. There are quotation marks around the title so as almost as if it's, you know, the making reference to being a lyric, or

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Andrew's iPhone: maybe like a phrase from a diary or something like that. So there's a sense of kind of.

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Andrew's iPhone: and memory and

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Andrew's iPhone: and and beauty and regret. Maybe this track and some other tracks on the record made me think of air soundtrack to the virgin suicides as well.

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Andrew's iPhone: With the base and the kind of general kind of shimmering, soft focus

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Andrew's iPhone: haziness of the truck.

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Andrew's iPhone: And so again, it's

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Andrew's iPhone: yeah kind of youth and

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Andrew's iPhone: memory and regret and things like that. So I think that's all really, really interesting.

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Alternate Line: Do you know what's great about this type of music? And and this track, as well as as an example of it, is when it is kind of

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Alternate Line: is meandering a reasonable word, for this is kind of like meandering.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, it's weird.

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Alternate Line: Is run time. And then at various points.

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Alternate Line: a song, almost kind of like, you know, burst out, because there's there's lots of melody going on here. But it it's kind of the old post modern like that. It never really is. Lots of signifiers, but they're not really signifying anything. It's just

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Alternate Line: the the the kind of snippets, almost of melody. But the the the in the middle. Somewhere there a a a a chorus almost emerges of of some kind.

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Alternate Line: And there's some repeated phrases in there. And and when that happens, it's kind of wonderful, I think, and it goes it. That's when it

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Alternate Line: music level. And and just when it touches regular music again, and those things that you like when you, when you just get a wee snippet of that, and does the recognition. The Pavlovian recognition inside.

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Andrew's iPhone: And latch onto.

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Alternate Line: Yeah. Then when you get that, you're you're you're like, Oh, I like that

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Alternate Line: And and I'm gonna see the dumbest thing about this, and if they're listening, I'm so sorry where it's a dumb thing, right? But there's not an unpleasant sound on this track.

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Alternate Line: And it very gently leads you in other directions. It never! It never makes a like a

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Alternate Line: I don't know what. I don't know

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Alternate Line: where they would where they can go with this? I don't know. This sounds to me like

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Alternate Line: the type of music you would need in a sort of West End.

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Alternate Line: you know, flat an after party, or something like that. Or you know, you may even see people making this music in a in a in one of those

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Alternate Line: and one of those places. I don't know. I don't know where they go from here. I could see I could see them making

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Alternate Line: You know, for films, or or for whatever and I think they'd be very good at that

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Alternate Line: but like I said at the top of this one. Probably not gonna hear this one in Radio 2, and they probably don't give a shit about that, either. Wouldn't I thought so.

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Andrew's iPhone: No? Oh, yeah, sure. And so it's released on the very cool world of echo records which is named after they are for Russell, Lp.

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Andrew's iPhone: And and and they're kind of consistently putting out interesting electronic and avant pop stuff. There's a group called the Tara Clerk in trio who I really like

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Andrew's iPhone: who I'm sure we'll talk about at some stage the next time they've got a new record there. I'm sure we'll talk about them, because they're really kind of fascinating and unique group

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Andrew's iPhone: and kind of working in similar a similar kind of area to this. But maybe they're a little bit. They're starting to move in a little bit more of a song based direction.

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Andrew's iPhone: but yeah, I would recommend people checking out this record.

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Andrew's iPhone: They've got an album lunch night at the old hairdressers in Glasgow, on.

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Alternate Line: Oh, that's the perfect venue for that! That is.

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Andrew's iPhone: So.

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Andrew's iPhone: So. Thursday, the sixteenth of May at the old hairdressers, with support from mallet space and former Podcast Guest. Duncan Marquis, is is doing a set there as well.

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Alternate Line: But of course.

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Andrew's iPhone: So that's very cool.

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Alternate Line: Very good, I remember, in a slightly rock and roll moment.

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Alternate Line: going to play a gig at stereo, which I believe is the venue directly across from the old hairdressers. I think I'm right in saying.

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Andrew's iPhone: That's right.

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Alternate Line: When we were when we were but young young musicians and

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Alternate Line: well, Andrew, we got ourselves all turned around, and instead of going into stereo and going down the stairs to the venue and stereo. We somehow ended up going into the old hairdressers, because there was a bouncer

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Alternate Line: wheel the band. Yeah.

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Alternate Line: So so you're man in here. So we're like, we're upstairs. And I'm like, it's, it's obviously more like like a room basically than a.

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Andrew's iPhone: But aye.

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Alternate Line: I was like yo! Where's the

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Andrew's iPhone: Like massive pillow that takes up half the room.

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Alternate Line: Yeah, I hate that. The stereo. Oh, I do like stereo. I I do like so many a good they had in stereo. Yeah. So that was a kind of like a spinal tap moment for us.

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Alternate Line: where we did it?

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Alternate Line: Didn't we do it?

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Andrew's iPhone: We did, we did hopefully. We haven't offended in his fifties, but.

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Alternate Line: you know whatever as what is I don't know if.

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Alternate Line: Well, actually, I was gonna say, I don't know. If many swifties listen to this podcast and I'll let you really know that there are some. So

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Alternate Line: we've had some messages, I think, on Taylor Swift's last record. I think we had someone asking if we're going to review any tracks from or whatever

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Alternate Line: or something. Is that right? I think that's I think that's possibly the case.

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Andrew's iPhone: Links a bill.

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Alternate Line: Rings a bell, but that was in. That was all. I was available. But we did it. We did the big rant. It's not as good as my rant about that

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Alternate Line: Bob Marley's grandson track. That was like a really calculated one from a few weeks ago.

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Alternate Line: But it was just. It was. It was raw man, it was emotional, it was, you know.

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Alternate Line: It just came right out of me.

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Alternate Line: But I think much more important than that. Other 4 tracks have followed it, because, thank thank God, did it as good as they are this week, like

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

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Alternate Line: Swift record. Wait there! Just says.

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Andrew's iPhone: So just as.

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Alternate Line: And if if you don't have the palette for guests

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Alternate Line: you had an idiot, you know something like that. That's not true. That's not fair, anyway. Back to back to the show. I'm I've dropped in a ranting again accidentally as soon as I thought about that I'm angry again.

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Alternate Line: Right? Obviously. Okay. Great. Well, here we've arrived at the portion of the show. We like to call the Vinyl world where Andrew removes from his physical collection

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Alternate Line: of Vinyl a track, a record that he thinks matches up nicely with something that we've listened to

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Alternate Line: this week.

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Alternate Line: And it gives us a nice explanation for it. And it plays us out. And just before we do that.

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Alternate Line: if you did, if you did like this, podcast A great way of supporting us is hitting us up on Instagram.

944
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Alternate Line: At. We heard wonders, and on twitter as well. Where you can chat to us if you like.

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Alternate Line: And if you feel like, you want to support this podcast financially, you actually can do that absolutely, no problem at buy me, a coffee.com slash. We had wonders. And we just take all that cash

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Alternate Line: oodles of it. And we just put it straight back into the production of this podcast.

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Andrew's iPhone: We just need more.

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Alternate Line: And we just make more podcasts. And then you send more money.

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Alternate Line: And we just mean more podcasts.

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Alternate Line: And it's just an endless cycle, a consumer cycle.

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Alternate Line: Until we just fall down. You know, we can podcast no further.

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Andrew's iPhone: I I would, I would say, like it'd be cool if if people could maybe write a few reviews on. You know itunes, or wherever you, you read you or listen to your podcast because it's been a wee while since we've had any reviews, and it'd be nice to get some fresh ones up there.

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Andrew's iPhone: If you're still enjoying the show.

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Alternate Line: Yeah, yeah, if you're out there, give us a give us a holler. Right? So.

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Alternate Line: vinyl, watch, my friends, what we got.

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Andrew's iPhone: I thank you. So this week we've made previous references to the eighties with Fabiana Paladino, and we've made reference to Glasgow there with guests. So I'm closing this out with something

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Andrew's iPhone: from the eighties from Glasgow. And and you know we we've talked about the fact that Matty Healy is quite an egregious character, to say the least.

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Andrew's iPhone: But it does display a modicum of good taste by declaring a truck by Glasgow legends. The Blue Nile

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Andrew's iPhone: as his favourite song of all time.

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Andrew's iPhone: Like s-.

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Alternate Line: Batty Healy. Doesn't that say that.

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Andrew's iPhone: And and this this track is actually made reference to on

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Andrew's iPhone: a Taylor swift track on our new album. This is a track called guilty as sin.

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Andrew's iPhone: and it opens with the lines drowning in the blue nail. He sent me downtown lights again, very little from Taylor, and I hadn't. I hadn't heard it in a while, and then she kind of repeats that the industry says, Am I allowed to cry?

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Andrew's iPhone: so yeah. So I mean

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Andrew's iPhone: that that we mentioned is kind of led to a few kind of who are the blue nail style explainer articles, and and there has been a spike or idea in the Meta streams for this track at the downtown light. So I mean that that's gotta be a positive, hasn't it?

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Andrew's iPhone: So this is a track from their magnificent second record hats released in what year Ian.

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Alternate Line: Was it 1989?

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Andrew's iPhone: What does all mean?

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Andrew's iPhone: So it's all connected, isn't it?

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Alternate Line: Doesn't mean.

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Andrew's iPhone: Am.

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Alternate Line: Just when they wrote it.

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Andrew's iPhone: So, yes, so yeah. So 1989, and I'll be released 5 years after the debut walk across the rooftops. And yeah, I mean the leader, Paul Pekan, is always kind of known as a bit of a perfectionist, and and I think those 5 years Rob spent 5 years kind of honing

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Andrew's iPhone: these 7 tracks that are just gleamingly

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Andrew's iPhone: instead of immaculate sophisticop.

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Andrew's iPhone: in my opinion. And the downtown lights is just the ultimate example of that. I think so. It's gonna play us out this week.

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Alternate Line: We go

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Alternate Line: love it. So let's just say goodbye to everybody.

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Alternate Line: Goodbye. We shall see you next time.

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Andrew's iPhone: See you next time, guys, good night

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Andrew's iPhone: times I walk away.

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Andrew's iPhone: We'll laugh.

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Andrew's iPhone: I remember blue.

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Andrew's iPhone: Oh, man.

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Andrew's iPhone: hold your!

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Andrew's iPhone: There is just one thing I can say.

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Andrew's iPhone: Roman

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Andrew's iPhone: loves you.

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Andrew's iPhone: Swear

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Andrew's iPhone: so, as

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Andrew's iPhone: you say.

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Andrew's iPhone: my

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Andrew's iPhone: then love

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Andrew's iPhone: the same.

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Andrew's iPhone: We're walking down an empty

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Andrew's iPhone: and with no money

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Andrew's iPhone: destiny.

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Andrew's iPhone: Sorry.

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Andrew's iPhone: Remember.

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Andrew's iPhone: Go

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Andrew's iPhone: know him!

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Andrew's iPhone: Me that

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Andrew's iPhone: do I know it's true.

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Andrew's iPhone: will feel

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Andrew's iPhone: a

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Andrew's iPhone: a.

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Andrew's iPhone: a

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Andrew's iPhone: cigarettes

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Andrew's iPhone: God

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Andrew's iPhone: a

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Andrew's iPhone: chimpanze!

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Andrew's iPhone: My prayer.