New Music - Corridor! St. Vincent! Iron & Wine with Fiona Apple! Ganavya! Amelia Coburn!

A discursive quality and literary bent to this week’s @weheardwonders, with references to John Dunne, Dylan Thomas and, er, Eddie Van Halen. We play and review new music from transporting indie-rockers Corridor, art-rock auteur St. Vincent, Americana mainstay Iron & Wine, South Indian ambient-jazz scholar Ganavya and exciting, uke-wielding upstart Amelia Coburn. Something ravishingly verbose has The Vinyl Word. Listen to We Heard Wonders on your podcast platform of choice; tell your friends that we’re back; like, subscribe and recommend; catch up with previous editions and support the show by buying us a Coffee (link in the show’s bio).

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Andrew's iPhone: Dive on it.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

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Alternate Line: How are you doing, man?

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, good. You're dropping the hell out of that.

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Andrew's iPhone: How are you?

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Alternate Line: I'm very well, thank you. Yes, I'm very well. I'll tell you about my current situation in a moment or 2. But let's introduce ourselves first, who are you?

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Andrew's iPhone: Hi. My name is Andrew. I buy records and write about them on Instagram at Kit, Ag. 86.

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Alternate Line: And you are the Van Halen of Instagram music Instagrams, because you write with an unprecedented skill and present us with things we'd never even thought possible.

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Alternate Line: How's about that? That's that's that's a share. That's a share. Okay, my name's Ian. My name's

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Alternate Line: I'm in Glasgow. Band deadline shakes and you can find us on

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Alternate Line: at Daybel and chase.

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Alternate Line: Lovely wee bit of Van Halen to kick us off this week because you know

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Alternate Line: why ever not? Why ever not so? I feel like I should just come right out and explain to you what my situation is this evening. Okay, so

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Alternate Line: last question.

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Andrew's iPhone: I must say, like before we we start, that I'm relieved and a little bit surprised to see him on piece

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Andrew's iPhone: following your verbal evisceration of Taylor Swift last week.

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Alternate Line: Well, it's on that topic. It's on that topic that I speak. Actually. So.

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Alternate Line: yeah. So my my partner on listening to the the podcast did send me a text

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Alternate Line: frightening stakes, as she just wrote to me after this in the podcast that she thinks she'll be writing a killer break-up album herself. Now.

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Alternate Line: scary thing! But that actually leads me neatly into what I'm actually up to this evening, which is essentially kind of being a kind of butler for the the 4 Taylor swift enthusiasts who are currently in the living room of my house, literally making the bracelets.

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Alternate Line: literally watching Taylor Swift. And a few minutes ago, just as you were like coming on, zoom. What I was having to do was basically excuse myself for the evening. I was like.

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Alternate Line: sorry guys. I'm just do you need any more snacks? I've caught up carrots and cucumbers and that and weave crisps and bowls and stuff. And is it anything else I can get for you? And they were just like.

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Alternate Line: Yeah, just get us some more fun on that. Just get us some more drinks, and that'll be fine.

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Andrew's iPhone: That's that's fairly sweet.

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Andrew's iPhone: What is it they're making the bracelets out of like.

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Alternate Line: Oh, what are they making my over? You can see. What are they making them? Phone? I was, gonna say, I have absolutely no idea.

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Alternate Line: And they're making.

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Andrew's iPhone: I was clear of my second question.

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Alternate Line: Well, yes, some of the money that I've and some of the money that so easy, and has been lovingly splodged into the purchase of

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Andrew's iPhone: And.

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Alternate Line: And they're all in there. Well, I'm not saying what you just got, but they're old enough to know better. Let's put it that way. So bloody hell!

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Alternate Line: So that's that.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, I mean, I was given review. But last week is obviously I had a big impact on the commercial success of the record.

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Andrew's iPhone: Occupying the top of 10 slots of the top. 10

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Andrew's iPhone: and the in the billboard top 100. So, yeah, so.

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Andrew's iPhone: David.

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Alternate Line: No, but they the the the lady said that all lessons to last week's podcast.

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Andrew's iPhone: But Daddy, I love her

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Alternate Line: Nicely done, nicely done.

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Alternate Line: cool. So yeah, that's that's what I'm at this week. Slightly, to the podcasting this week. That's my

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Alternate Line: you were. You were saying to me last night.

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Alternate Line: let's definitely get this one in, because there's lots of good stuff coming out next week, which I don't wanna kind of spoil but it's not so much about how good the next week stuff is. This week's selection of music is very, very, very good.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

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Alternate Line: Including a couple of artists that I really do like particularly. And so they've been sad to like, not not include those so who we got on the slate.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, good. So yeah, I mean, as you say, like, kind of following a kind of quiet week for record store day and the Torch Reports Department day.

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Andrew's iPhone: and there were quite a few interesting records out last Friday.

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Andrew's iPhone: Including these. So we've got music from Corridor

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Andrew's iPhone: St. Vincent.

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Andrew's iPhone: Aaron, and Wayne at the track, both you on the app for few on apple.

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Andrew's iPhone: Ganavia?

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Andrew's iPhone: Amelia Coburn. I beg your phone. Thank you.

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Alternate Line: Very nice, very nice, very nice. Well, we're here to help each other out on my way. That's over here for okay, I think we should just get straight in about it. I don't know if there's any other musical notes and and stuff you want to talk about this week. I mean. I guess there's the tawdry Kendrick Lamar, Drake, J. Cole.

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Alternate Line: I don't know. It's all about on edifying. I think that stuff really, isn't it? It's just a bit silly. And it's all.

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Andrew's iPhone: and nothing really dates worse than I just track, you know the the

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Andrew's iPhone: but maybe seem like a good idea at the time, but the very rare age will.

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Andrew's iPhone: And, as you say, it's just a lot, but unedifying. And

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Andrew's iPhone: frankly, I thought Kendrick was above that. But there we go.

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Andrew's iPhone: You can jump into.

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Andrew's iPhone: I mean the the only one for me would be the the Jay z one takeover.

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Alternate Line: Funny. Do you know? Funny, you say I was actually thinking that as well, I love that track.

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Andrew's iPhone: I love that track. Yeah, just just such a amazing use of the door sample in that.

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Alternate Line: I know I know Guy news cancelled, and that but that was definitely time where he was not even really reaching the peak of his powers. He was just on the way up. Really.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And Jay just goes to town on that. It's just.

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Alternate Line: That's the one that's not quite as visible as the as the 2 pack one, because you just sort of explaining how Jesus explained how you'd run business rings around, as it's not like a.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, absolutely.

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Andrew's iPhone: Back. Get back to work around your next masterpiece, Kendrick.

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Alternate Line: Aye, do another record, please. It's like us going on the like.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, I mean.

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Alternate Line: I was going to be really efficient and say, let's get straight to it. And then I talked all this nonsense about Kendrick Lamar. So let's get straight to it. So let's kick off with a corridor's new track called

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Alternate Line: the lovely jump cuts by corridor there. Really like exciting.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah. Well, per, I like it.

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Andrew's iPhone: Thank you,

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Andrew's iPhone: You have, and we have a copy

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Andrew's iPhone: area.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, I'll give you a little bit background about corridor or corridor.

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Andrew's iPhone: Corridor is a Canadian Indie rock band from Montreal, Quebec.

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Andrew's iPhone: and they were the first Francophone band to ever be signed to the influential

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Andrew's iPhone: And so, yeah, so the majority of the likes are in French. But there's a kind of smattering of English

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Andrew's iPhone: air fruit.

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Andrew's iPhone: Let's track. And throughout the record as well.

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Andrew's iPhone: And and the previous record, from 2019, was long listed for the 2020 Polaris music price. So that's like the Canadian equivalent of the mercury price.

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Andrew's iPhone: And this track is from their just released fourth album, which came out on Friday there. And and it's called Mimi.

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Andrew's iPhone: And yeah, it's a lovely little lesson.

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Andrew's iPhone: I can see that kind of like, you know, like a forest steel.

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Andrew's iPhone: Something like that. Yeah.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah. But yeah, fittingly, for a a group called Corridor. It's like music that takes you places. And

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Andrew's iPhone: it's me. But the journey is more important than the destination. Almost it kind of takes a little lot of journey. And yeah, I can. I can see that kind of early

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Andrew's iPhone: swishing effects. And th, there's other truck tracks I've got kind of like bleeps and bloops in

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Andrew's iPhone: serrated guitars and things like that as well. And so that yeah, this record was made.

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Andrew's iPhone: or it kind of came about.

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Andrew's iPhone: But when they were hold up in a cottage, and they started to kind of think about where where they want to kind of take their sound next, and they came up with these

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Andrew's iPhone: almost like kind of collagey ideas. And then, when Covid happened, they were kind of bouncing those ideas back and forth.

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Andrew's iPhone: Kind of the kind of

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Andrew's iPhone: what's what I'm looking for, and virtually, I guess and teach to each other, and and then they've kind of incorporated over time more of those kind of electronic elements. And they've kind of took their sound in slightly different direction this time around.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah. But it's still got that kind of distinctive.

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Andrew's iPhone: rhythmic pulse that I think that that they're associated with.

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Andrew's iPhone: I mean the.

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Andrew's iPhone: No, you're fine, and I was just saying that th they made this record with a co-producer called Juju Ashworth, which I just thought was a good name.

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Andrew's iPhone: And and and Jude has worked with groups like Dummy and O automatic as well, who who kind of work in this kind of similar vein.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah. And, as you say, just a very, very top incredibly talented songwriter and really talented guitarist as well.

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Andrew's iPhone: and so they're one of the best guitarists of 20 first century. She was named 20 sixth, greatest guitarist of all time and rolling stones. 2023 list.

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Andrew's iPhone: I know it's it's kind of it's kind of like a an observation that's kind of leveled at our, and maybe an accusation that's leveled. That was quite a bit kind of vineyard of auction this about everything that she does now, but kind of sense of remove.

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Andrew's iPhone: and and I do kind of feel that a little bit is kind of I find it how to completely connect with what she does in like an emotional level, but feel like on those records. She was. Really.

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Andrew's iPhone: they're really kind of dynamic records and really inventive records, and I really enjoyed them.

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Andrew's iPhone: and and the last couple of records are

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Andrew's iPhone: I've kind of I've like like yourself again. I've kind of fell away a little bit. So

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Andrew's iPhone: a mass seduction from 2019, and that is home 2021,

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Andrew's iPhone: both produced with our man Jack Antonov.

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Andrew's iPhone: so that's kind of by the by, really, but I mean th. They were just disappointments for me. Just a little bit stuff, a little bit calculated, maybe maybe just trying a little bit too hard to be edgy on mass production. I thought just a bit. You're trying to be a bit kind of too provocative, maybe. And then Daddy's home was this kind of, and homage to the seventies and artists that she loved there, and with that one I just don't really feel that the tunes were there for that.

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Andrew's iPhone: And yeah, I mean she she hasn't really done anything since then.

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Andrew's iPhone: and she she's been producing. She's produced first litre, Kinney.

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Andrew's iPhone: and and now we've got this record, which is our first, all self produced record. So I think she's really kind of taking our time with this. And she's

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Andrew's iPhone: I mean the the 2. The 2 kind of taster tracks are are just absolutely killer and badass like like like this one

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Andrew's iPhone: and like, I kind of wish that there was a little bit more of this on the record. She she kind of goes all around

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Andrew's iPhone: the shop W, with the different kind of styles on the record. And but but but yeah, this track and th the first taster track which we've I remember I was kind of talking about when that was first dropped. We we have to talk about this at some stage and broken man, and which is just excellent. I I I remember saying that I had to kind of queens of the Stone Age feel to the the solo. And you said, Oh, no, it's

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Andrew's iPhone: it's not quite that. It's 9 inch nails is the thing, and you're absolutely spawn. With that I think.

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Andrew's iPhone: Right.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah. Nice one. I think there's there's a lot of kind of nineties

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Andrew's iPhone: references on this record of of like people that she was into so things like 9 hills, Tori Moss. There's quite a lot of like garbage, Charlotte, Charlie.

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Andrew's iPhone: Coverage. I'm thinking of. Yeah. And

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Andrew's iPhone: course on this track we've got certain Mr. Groll and drums as well.

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Andrew's iPhone: which is very, very cool.

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Alternate Line: Which very helpful, and then the the track this most is reminiscent to me of is, you remember the Bjork track Animal Army.

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Andrew's iPhone: Is the army of me. Is that what you were talking of, or.

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Alternate Line: Army of me is the one I'm trying to say, and as in my notes, and I've said to the wrong fact because I'm stupid. Yes, army of me.

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Alternate Line: good catch. Wow! That's so good that you just caught that right, if any. Yes, here's what you really meant. No army of me, cause I just think it has something of the same sort of pace and and crunchy guitariness to it. The production on this St. Vincent track is

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, she.

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Alternate Line: They drip you in diamonds. Pour you and cream, let it comes in, and the guitars just have this unbelievable set like crunchy full sound to them. That is just like

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Alternate Line: I I don't even know. I actually not really sure how you achieve that exactly. It's it's the best equipment, but it's more than just. The best equipment is the year for it as well. And knowing the energy and vitality that will give to chorus like that. That chorus is just really like

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Alternate Line: seductive, salacious feeling to it. But at the same time could mean almost anything like it's it's just it could be completely innocent. It could be super sexy.

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Andrew's iPhone: And lovely.

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Alternate Line: Can't think of another bridge. This is like just so good. Just takes all the

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Andrew's iPhone: Big.

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Alternate Line: And you think you know you, you think I'm I'm really enjoying this track. What could improve this? It's a final go around the chorus again right at the end of the track, and then cut and out. And it's it's just so well conceived, like it's again. It's just something that has been mapped out so cleverly. And just works incredibly, incredibly well. So, yeah, I I love this track. I think I think it's.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, me, too. Me, too. Yeah, but I'll I'll love that. The bridge, the breakdown that it's very, very pro is very like.

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Alternate Line: Yes.

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Andrew's iPhone: Like something like yes would do, or something.

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Andrew's iPhone: And then it goes back into that.

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Andrew's iPhone: A crush.

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Alternate Line: What is it?

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Andrew's iPhone: The chorus at the end. It's just it's all in less than 4 min as well.

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Alternate Line: Yeah, well, that's what I was. Gonna say, it's the brevity of it. And I think it's almost beatlesy in the way that it goes like, here's the thing right.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

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Alternate Line: And then, just in the middle, you get like just another like a complete other what feels like disconnected, disjointed idea. And then, before you know where you are. They've like marryed it all up. And obviously the Beatles were were

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Andrew's iPhone: So warm gun.

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Alternate Line: Happy. So you just take all these like desperate ideas, and somehow they all they all connect, and they all make sense. It's got that and I don't. I don't make a beatles comparison in terms of like some construction lately, like I think that's that's about as high a bit of praise as you can.

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Alternate Line: as you can go. Well, I think it is. I think it is, but I'm gonna go make a physical. Would you like to come with me?

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Andrew's iPhone: Oh, please!

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Alternate Line: Doesn't this make you think? Doesn't the title make you think of the the John Dunn poem Flee.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

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Alternate Line: Metaphysical poets like it's got that kind of that idea to it. And and I put the I put the poem and the the lyrics to the first verse.

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Alternate Line: pick it apart. Exactly. But there's something definitely going on. But the the letting I'm just I'm just like a hungry little flee

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Alternate Line: and that sounds, of course, very creepy, very stockery. You know that kind of thing.

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Alternate Line: And immediately you're into this this chorus, the drip you in diamonds, pouring cream, which also sounds kind of like stockery and overbearing as well.

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Alternate Line: but in a different way. So instead of being like a parasite now, it's like the maybe the opposite point of view. And yeah, it's just like, Re, like a really really interesting well written and Lydic. And

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Alternate Line: this is what I mean about St. Vincent. It's the whole. It's the whole package. Everything about this is almost perfect.

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Alternate Line: And if you'll indulge me 1 one more for the thing you're saying. Some people find that the whole St. Vincent experience is maybe a little arch.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

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Andrew's iPhone: So it's.

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Alternate Line: Is too clever for its own good in some respects, and I think that's that's something you could lay at the door of mass seduction, the 2019 records. Maybe that's what you didn't like about it. Just.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

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Alternate Line: Lacks sometimes the human.

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Alternate Line: the human touch, or the human quality.

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Alternate Line: There's a piano version of that records. I don't know if you've ever heard that which is the same songs performed live with just her on piano. We heard that.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, I've heard bits of that. I've not spent enough time with that. To be honest.

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Alternate Line: Yeah, I think you might like it because it does.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

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Alternate Line: It does, it does refresh those tracks, and it brings the the good and the wacky moments out, and quite a lot quite often, like simplifies those tracks, and and on some of them, I would say, improves them like, I think some of the piano versions of that are actually better than the

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Alternate Line: the tracks from the mass deduction record. But like tracks like New York and on that record are really good and and and enhanced by that the piano performance. So this track, I think, doesn't suffer so much from the archness

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Alternate Line: like usual quality. I think it's just. It's pitched it quite.

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Alternate Line: quite nicely where it's just like.

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Alternate Line: you know.

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Alternate Line: there's no barrier to enjoyment here. I think it's just like, obviously, just really, really good.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, I completely agree. As I say, I just kinda wish there's a few more tracks in the record like this, and like Broken man, and but it's just not what she's interested in doing. She has wanting to go down these different avenues, and there are some really really great tracks on the record. There's one called Violent Times, which

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Andrew's iPhone: does sound like such Shirley Manson recasting the the carpenter superstar as a bond theme.

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Andrew's iPhone: and which is A, which is like an amazing track. And there's there's one that's inspired by Jamie Jam and Lewis's productions for Janet Jackson called Big Time. Big big time, nothing.

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Andrew's iPhone: And and then there's there's ones with like a kind of there's one with a kind of regular light loop to it. There's one with Caitlin on it that starts off with this kind of high life inspired groove and then goes into a dub section and then goes into like, there's some kind of electronic, pagan procession type thing at the end. And so th there's lots going on. And

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Andrew's iPhone: and I, I, i'll listen to, there's a there's a really cool podcast that I like called tape notes

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Andrew's iPhone: with John Kennedy, and he was kind of talking to her about making this record and

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Andrew's iPhone: a lot of the the tracks came out of her, just messing about with like modular synths.

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Andrew's iPhone: and she would get like a little

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Andrew's iPhone: like a motif for a little doo, and then she kind of bug the tracks up from there, and and they were kind of isolating on different tracks are isolating some of the little bits that are just kind of in the background, and there's just loads of her just kind of doing these kind of random yelps and all these kind of random, like horn stabs and things like that, and

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Andrew's iPhone: and kind of

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Andrew's iPhone: stack seizures and things like that. So just Lot, you could just tell us just a lot of kind of energy and creativity that's really gone into this project. Yeah, and which is really cool. So yeah, I think this is our our best project, and quite some time actually.

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Alternate Line: Wait some time. Very good, very good. I know we spent a lot of time talking about St. Vincent. I don't want to elongate this any further than it has to. But I will just say on the garbage mention of garbage and Shirley Manson, that makes me think of Butch Veg, who was the drummer for garbage. And then just we talk about like

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Alternate Line: billing tracks apart and all that sort of stuff Butchwig was also the producer who worked on. Never mind. There's some videos on Youtube of him sitting at the desk.

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Alternate Line: I don't know if you've seen any of these, and he's sort of like he's he's got the, you know, like, for example, he has like lithium and stuff. And he's like, right, okay. So I'm gonna here's just Dave and Kirk's vocals on lithium just isolated on their own. And then he it's it's actually fascinating stuff. I'm I'm a total sucker for all that. All that kind of stuff, because you would enjoy those as well and

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Alternate Line: full circle. Dave Dole is also on this track, so that that links all that crosses all the t's. So there we go.

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Andrew's iPhone: I said, Oh.

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Alternate Line: Alright! Alright! Alright! Okay. So we gave that the full we gave that the full beans. It's a it's a cracking track, though, isn't it? I'm almost empty. Just play again. But we shan't. Okay. So next up another, we favorite of mine from from the past. I'm not an expert on iron and wine. But I do. I do have enjoyed a little bit of iron in my time. And guess we'll post on this one Fiona Apple a name I don't even think I've heard since

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Alternate Line: the nineties, or something like that. Not not a name. I'm I've

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Alternate Line: I've heard a lot when when I started like reading like queue magazine and and stuff like that few and Apple was a name that people mentioned, and there's a particular record, but I'm certainly not an expert, so maybe you can. Maybe you can fill us in a wee bit.

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Andrew's iPhone: I can do. Yeah, I mean, I I'm I must have. I'm not expert in an apple either, but I mean she has done a lot of stuff since the nineties, we we should. Well, she'll she'll make a record and then disappear for maybe like 6 or 7 years. But yeah. The last one that she did was fetch the boat cars from 2020, and that was the one that got the big 10 in pitchfork.

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Andrew's iPhone: And was like a massive

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, massive, critical success. And then

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Andrew's iPhone: really, really kind of connected with certain people. And then

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Andrew's iPhone: but inevitably, if something's given that much praise, you know. There's a kind of backlash to it as well, but.

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Alternate Line: Yeah.

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Andrew's iPhone: It's quite interesting cause on on that record. She she was very kind of.

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Andrew's iPhone: and like again, kind of confrontational and very confessional, and her vocal cords were almost like sort of shredded on certain tracks.

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Andrew's iPhone: And it's not the few and apple that we get on this track. So it's quite interesting that she's she's been away for you, but she's come back with something that's

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Andrew's iPhone: or or she's kind of contributing to something very different.

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Alternate Line: Yeah. Well, the artist, the artist often tries to serve the the tracking, and this is very much an iron and wine record, for sure.

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Andrew's iPhone: The Soviet.

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Alternate Line: Yeah, yeah, for the song. Okay, this track is called All in good time.

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Alternate Line: All in good time.

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Alternate Line: Gave him my best. I was alone till I found myself

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Alternate Line: all in good time.

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Alternate Line: all in good time. I drifted away

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Alternate Line: out in my mouth till I had nothing to say.

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Alternate Line: My heart. Then I was Ok.

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Alternate Line: All in good time.

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Alternate Line: Morning.

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Alternate Line: Trust in my

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Alternate Line: picked on some on my side

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Alternate Line: is only good time.

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Alternate Line: all in good time. I followed my nose.

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Alternate Line: but a bleed when a knife comes to close tied on your love, and I folded those clothes all in the

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Alternate Line: buried friends, and wasted.

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Alternate Line: Something wants to be dissolved

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Alternate Line: all in good time.

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Alternate Line: My angel came back.

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Alternate Line: There's some

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Alternate Line: Falling good time

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Alternate Line: falling.

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Alternate Line: It felt like a star. We opened

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Alternate Line: our own stolen cars are all in good

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Alternate Line: good time.

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Alternate Line: all our web

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Alternate Line: holly.

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Alternate Line: We told the truth

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Alternate Line: all in good time.

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Alternate Line: Good time. I plan with the shit.

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Alternate Line: I told my future by reading your lips.

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Alternate Line: You wore my ring until it didn't fit

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Alternate Line: all in good time.

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Alternate Line: Always suffer enough

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Alternate Line: say our goodbyes and our hellos again.

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Andrew's iPhone: Just

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Andrew's iPhone: very sweet and syrupy, and in in a really lovely way, I think.

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Andrew's iPhone: And deliberately so. And

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Andrew's iPhone: yeah, I mean

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Andrew's iPhone: this, this track just kind of immediately kind of

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Andrew's iPhone: struck me as a very nifty and timeless bit of song writing when I'm when I heard that, I think.

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Andrew's iPhone: A really well constructed song. And I I was actually gonna ask you about your kind of history with iron wine, cause I I I don't really have too much of a history to be honest. I remember buying

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Andrew's iPhone: his record our endless number days when it came out, and when I was a student and

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Andrew's iPhone: 2,004, and but I've actually really started to appreciate that record more recently.

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Andrew's iPhone: and and

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Andrew's iPhone: really kind of got got the kind of like kind of subtle metric

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Andrew's iPhone: like charm to it. Quick, quick, quick, sparse records. And I've been aware that he's been kind of making records over the years and gradually expanding his sound.

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Andrew's iPhone: But I've never really kind of spent a great amount of time with this catalog, despite knowing that, you know he is very kind of highly regarded.

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Andrew's iPhone: and he is considered the kind of mean stay in terms of

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Andrew's iPhone: in the fork in Americana.

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Andrew's iPhone: M.

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Andrew's iPhone: As I say that this track just kind of immediately struck me as something that was very good.

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Andrew's iPhone: That's where I brought in.

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Andrew's iPhone: What is.

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Andrew's iPhone: Could see that.

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Andrew's iPhone: I I was thinking it was. It was like something that you might like, kind of like a latter day like Van Morrison Track, that you might get online.

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Andrew's iPhone: Those kind of track like. Have I told you lately that I love you kind of thing, or days like this kind of tracks that find their way onto the soundtracks of

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Andrew's iPhone: those kind of classy adult nineties, Romcoms, that you don't really. Yeah, they don't really make anymore those kind of

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Andrew's iPhone: or sleepless in Seattle, or something, or one fine day something like that. I actually quite like those kind of phones, but it's kind of got that fuel to. But, as you say, those other things going on when you actually.

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Andrew's iPhone: Linux, and the way they deliver it, as well.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, and.

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Andrew's iPhone: M-

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Andrew's iPhone: Yep.

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Alternate Line: So so like saying it is what it is. I hate it when people say that, because it means nothing right. And and you know, a terrible culprit, for that is the former Celtic manager, and supposed to call glue, presented with, almost presented with almost any scenario. He will say.

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Andrew's iPhone: It.

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Alternate Line: As what it is no share share. Look obviously as what is but yeah. So the the all in good time idea really doesn't kind of mean

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

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Andrew's iPhone: And then it and that kind of goes a bit kind of borne Clyde as well, though there's something on the run, and.

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Andrew's iPhone: The the, I think, is there like a hold up at some stage, and.

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Andrew's iPhone: Blood on their hands, and all sorts of things really.

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Alternate Line: You asked me sort of what? What's my sort of history with iron and wine. It's the most horrible history I have to share. It's the one where you were listening to something else, and this got recommended to you and spotify, and you listen to bit of it and spotify, but not really like paying a huge amount of attention to what record it was, and all that sort of stuff. The the iron and wine record that I have jived with the most is beast epic from 2,017.

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Alternate Line: I was right in about that when it came out, and I've enjoyed that multiple multiple times. And beyond that I'm just. I'm a bit. I'm a bit Vegan. Really, I couldn't tell you what track comes from which record and when

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

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Andrew's iPhone: Definitely, yeah. And it, the repetition of that phrase is kind of cleverly written into the concept of the track. So like, it's like every time that they repeat that phrase, it's it kind of

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Andrew's iPhone: indicates a passion of time, and it kind of kind of works in not the kind of years passing, and.

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Andrew's iPhone: as you say, the the way that the relationships changed is really quite clever. I think.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

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Alternate Line: you know, forefront for all of our range during the pandemic, I think. And I think that possibly plays a little bit into this letic and the relationship frustration and all that sort of stuff probably comes from the same.

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Andrew's iPhone: No, that's good share. And I've I've listened to the album. It's it's a very lush record in terms of its arrangements and instrumentation. I think it's it's kind of like a colossianist that verges on over production. I think at times my years, but

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Andrew's iPhone: and he's clearly going for that kind of

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Andrew's iPhone: early seventies.

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Andrew's iPhone: As I say, Van Morrison, kind of moon dance, chupilla, honey era, Van Morrison.

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Andrew's iPhone: which, which, which is is a, is a lovely, it's a lovely sound, and I I definitely do it well with. And it you're right. It's it's kind of got that kind of bony there thing, but it's got kind of a a want for the coziness to it that. And I, yeah, I kind of almost kind of like a middle age type. Feel to it.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

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Alternate Line: does does this fit just before we we wrap up on? And Wayne as well? There's, there's a great quote. I, I never want to talk about like religious stuff or politics, stuff on on the podcast obviously, it's not our, not our vibe right? And so this isn't actually religious comment. This is just something he said about religion, which I just think is a really like

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Alternate Line: clever type of phrase and sort of sums up the sort of wittiness and poetry of his lyrics. Quite well. So basically, a lot of people sometimes think his. His music is religious, I think. Just kind of what it sounds like, you know. The the overall overall

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Andrew's iPhone: Kind of earnestness to it, so.

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Alternate Line: Yeah, yeah. And and he's not right. But he was brought up in the Bible belt and was brought up as a Christian and he was asked in an interview like, what's your what are your religious beliefs now? Are you are? Do you still consider yourself a Christian? So he's now agnostic.

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Alternate Line: And he said, and this is the quote that was a confusing time for me, referring back to his childhood. Didn't in church. That was a confusing time for me. But I don't miss being misled.

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Alternate Line: I'm not an atheist. Okay? And I just think, if you look in the detail of what? What he's, what he's saying. There, he's like he's he's up for a bit of being misled, you know. He's like, I'm okay. I kind of understood.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

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Alternate Line: I I don't really believe in this, but the comfort of some of it. I'm I'm into kind of thing. I just think like, even even when he's like just being interviewed and talking, it can't help but be clever, and you know, and this this detail to be taken apart in these Linux, and I think this track is just another example of

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Andrew's iPhone: I would agree, spot on.

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Alternate Line: Yeah, that's right. Okay, we were quite

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Alternate Line: We were quite on top of the timing last week, and we're quite what was the word you used. I can't remember the word you used last week was

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Alternate Line: okay. So

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Alternate Line: next track is, forgive me, my

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Alternate Line: by Ganiva Gannavia, Ganavia.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, I'm going for Gannabia. I don't know if that's right or not. I hope it is.

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Alternate Line: Listen, Andrew, forgive me not, no, forgive me

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Andrew's iPhone: Like it.

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Alternate Line: Thank you. Yeah. I just jazz that right out there, you know, inspired by the track

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Alternate Line: Yeah, I'm gonna go with the heart recital as well. And I went along and

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Alternate Line: I must have looked like the strangest person at the heart recital side, like long black hair and all that sort of stuff. It was really into my rock and roll everything rep jeans and all that sort of stuff, and everyone miss everyone else is like

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Alternate Line: so yes, that has very little to do with this, except that's the musical like.

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Alternate Line: through line, you know. That was the that was the thing that immediately came to me as it was. Listen to this track. I believe there's the believe there's some interest and stuff going on in terms of the the authorship of this and and all that kind of stuff which I'm sure you're going to get into.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah. Yeah. A few weeks ago, when we were discussing the the Shabaka record I'd mentioned that there was a kind of growing trend, and I kind of.

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Andrew's iPhone: So

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Andrew's iPhone: you know it's good.

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Andrew's iPhone: and

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Andrew's iPhone: I noticed there was a.

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Alternate Line: You actually, you really said you really said that? No, that was good in a way that indicates

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Alternate Line: did not like me making a chew back into it.

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Andrew's iPhone: We're talking.

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Alternate Line: And I am sorry. I am sorry.

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Andrew's iPhone: No, that's fine, that's fine.

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Andrew's iPhone: yeah. So I mentioned, there did a growing trend and a growing appetite for

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Andrew's iPhone: jazz and new age adjacent ambient music.

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Andrew's iPhone: and I'd say, this is a further example of that. And there's actually several of the same people involved.

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Andrew's iPhone: and this record as does in the shebacco record.

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Andrew's iPhone: and it's actually came out on Shebacus label.

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Andrew's iPhone: so as Labour's called native rebel recordings

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Andrew's iPhone: and the album features Hutchins on he's Hutchins produced it, as well

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Andrew's iPhone: as well as playing on it, and there's also performances from floating points, and Carlos, Nino

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Andrew's iPhone: as well and as well as Ganaviere herself

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Andrew's iPhone: and and Ganavia is a New York born California, based South India raised scholar

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Andrew's iPhone: and multi-instrumentalist.

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Andrew's iPhone: And there's lots of kind of cool videos on on Youtube of of our kind of doing different. Ted talks about lots of brainy things

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Andrew's iPhone: things to do with, like the way that mute music connects with like maths and science and things like that really interesting. And and she she previously released the record that was produced by Quincy Jones.

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Andrew's iPhone: And she was one of the guest soloists that that that contributed to salts debut, live performance in London last year. That was like just

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Andrew's iPhone: incredible

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Andrew's iPhone: multimedia

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Andrew's iPhone: type thing that was kind of the the kind of

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Andrew's iPhone: transformed a warehouse into this whole salt world.

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Andrew's iPhone: and which was just incredible, with lots of different singers and dancers and things. But apparently her

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Andrew's iPhone: and solo singing performance was one of the real kind of stand out.

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Andrew's iPhone: Moments of that show is just kind of just stopped everybody in their tracks kind of thing, and a lot of people were kind of hearing her for the first time as well. Who is this?

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, artists?

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Andrew's iPhone: And she was taught Carnatic music by her mother and grandmothers.

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Andrew's iPhone: and so kind of music. It's like a form of devotional classical music with origins in Southern India, and and since relocating

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Andrew's iPhone: back to the the Us. Having spent a little bit of time at in South India.

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Andrew's iPhone: She's kind of done like arts degrees, and that this is our first record in 6 years.

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Andrew's iPhone: and the album's called like the sky. I've been too quiet.

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Andrew's iPhone: so it's like she's kind of acknowledging that maybe she's she's been away for a little bit in terms of making music under her own name.

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Andrew's iPhone: And yeah, th, this has been getting a lot of kind of

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Andrew's iPhone: within that kind of.

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Andrew's iPhone: that

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Andrew's iPhone: that that corner of Twitter and Instagram that that I kind of follow among record collectors. This records getting a lot of positive excitement.

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Andrew's iPhone: a.

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Alternate Line: Yeah, this is. This is, this is catnip for the nerds. I'm pretty sure.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, I.

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Andrew's iPhone: It really is really is. Yeah, there's people that are really kind of deep into their experimental.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, whether it be a kind of experiment to electronic music or ambient music or jazz. You know, this is kind of ticking a lot of boxes. And people are kind of calling this the problem of the year kind of thing.

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Andrew's iPhone: And and I can see why.

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Andrew's iPhone: on the tracks like this, that th there's there's a few moments in the record like this that I just think are absolutely, strongly beautiful, and.

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Andrew's iPhone: Really kind of take you into to that to that kind of mindset, I guess, and it's kind of got that kind of intimate devotional

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Andrew's iPhone: quality, that kind of closeness.

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Andrew's iPhone: and yeah, I mean all the titles, the album title, and all the titles of the tracks are written in lower case, and it does have that kind of kind of intimate quality to it. And there's like a cleansing, purifying

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Andrew's iPhone: quality to some of the music on it as well.

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Andrew's iPhone: That kind of links in with the album covers the album, covers her

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Andrew's iPhone: and and and water, hugging ourselves, surrounded by this kind of enveloping sea foam. And it's like, is that, gonna is it gonna cleansing quality to it?

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Andrew's iPhone: And so yeah, so there's there's moments like this.

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Andrew's iPhone: the closing number it's called, I walk again, eyes towards the sky. That's just absolutely beautiful.

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Andrew's iPhone: And and she does do a lot of kind of interest in blotting of genres on the record. So there's there's ones that are very kind of sparse like this. And there's some that I've got kind of bubbling electronic more. You kind of your kind of floating points kind of style

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Andrew's iPhone: on the record.

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Andrew's iPhone: There's a few there's. There's a few moments on the record that I'll just kind of, or quite a few moments for me. Actually, that kind of just lacking a bit too much in mail, in in melody.

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Andrew's iPhone: If so, my taste, I don't know. Maybe just makes me just

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Andrew's iPhone: so like a little like Neanderthal, or something like that. But.

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Alternate Line: Oh, don't worry. I'm gonna make some Neanderthal.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

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Alternate Line: Minota.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

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Andrew's iPhone: That's fine. But yeah, I I just. I don't love the album as much as maybe I would like to, and th there's bits that I can't quite get a handle on. There's bits that kind of

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Andrew's iPhone: the the opening tracks about 5 min long, but it feels about

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Andrew's iPhone: double that in terms of just it kind of kind of drones on a little bit.

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Andrew's iPhone: And so there's there's.

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Andrew's iPhone: as I say, there's moments of real kind of genuine beauty, and there's other bits that kind of frustrate me a bit.

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Andrew's iPhone: But that's just a real kind of interest and mix of different things. I get kind of

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Andrew's iPhone: aspects of Aruja Tabs that we talked about before.

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Andrew's iPhone: A lot of kind of like Alice Coltrane, spiritual jazz in there.

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Andrew's iPhone: as well as Anushraat fate. Ali Khan, who is like a massive hero of Jeff Buckley's.

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Andrew's iPhone: And so I kind of hear a lot of his kind of devotional music in this as well. And so there's lots of really cool stuff going on.

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Andrew's iPhone: And there's a lot to really kind of delve into with this record.

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Andrew's iPhone: It's a long record.

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Andrew's iPhone: So kind of sprawling record.

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Andrew's iPhone: so the the yeah, this is definitely one that I'm gonna keep returning to.

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Andrew's iPhone: And when.

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Alternate Line: Come on over, have have some dried mango and dried pineapple, and lie down on the massage bed of Neanderthal with me. Come on

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Alternate Line: like. The the problem with this track for me is that the vocal performance is like absolutely stunning knockout, and I get the jazzy element as well, because I I suspect it's partially improvised, at least because how? How else could you organize something like this and the harp, and is beautiful? And, as I told you. It gave me an instant like throwback feeling to this, like really pure musical experience of my youth. But it is. There is a

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Alternate Line: a tissue thing.

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Andrew's iPhone: The big buck.

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Alternate Line: Yeah. But yeah, here comes the part. Does it look a, does it test you? Then line between

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Alternate Line: and just being bland.

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Alternate Line: and it's like a tissue thin line. And I would say, I can definitely appreciate this. On the on the on the right side of the line. But I would struggle to like pack this out of a lineup of like other music that I've heard, you know. That's in that kind of like

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Alternate Line: type of things. You know what I mean like, it's it's very, very, very good.

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Alternate Line: but it's so simple and and and and stuff that is is, it doesn't really mark itself out in a way, as as being like super unique. I am a Neanderthal. I am an idiot.

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Andrew's iPhone: I do-.

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Alternate Line: Listen to this music on a regular basis, and the last person who should be seeing this and with any sense of authority. So that's just coming. That's just coming from me from that from that point of view. But it just seems to me like

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Alternate Line: like the corridor track and the St. Vincent Vincent track, for example, are essentially in the same genre, more or less right rock music.

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Alternate Line: And it is distinctive from each other as you could. You could I mean you couldn't smash those up in your head right? But the Ganavia track here, and other music that I've heard like it. It just it just all sort of forms, a kind of

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Alternate Line: missed in my head, and it's difficult for me to pick out the differences between

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Alternate Line: other other things in the Shauna.

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Alternate Line: but with the caveat I'm an idiot, and I don't know what I'm talking.

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Andrew's iPhone: Afternoon, so.

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Alternate Line: There we go!

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Andrew's iPhone: Me, yeah, for me that this definitely falls the right side of the lane. And I I do think this is a really beautiful piece of music, and it really kinda is, is it really stands out on the on the album as well as as

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Andrew's iPhone: because of its simplicity, because it's

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Andrew's iPhone: quite sparse, and it isn't, isn't busy, and it it stands out as being special on, on, on the album as well.

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Andrew's iPhone: So yeah. So

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Andrew's iPhone: I'm I'm all for

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Andrew's iPhone: this track, and, as I say, I just

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Andrew's iPhone: I'm I'm gonna spend a little bit more time with the album. But if if you're kind of intrigued by any of that, then definitely check this record out. So it will be, and the the people continue to talk about as the year goes on. I think.

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Alternate Line: Cool. Alright. Well, I made the mistake with crying, Ben before right and I didn't go on the crang, Ben, I'll put the curve, and I caught him too late. Right? So I need to. I need to get in on down in the the ground floor with the Ganavya, although I liked I really like the Shabaka track from a few weeks ago, and it.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

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Alternate Line: I'm interested in the in the like. I said, the authorship element of it, how? How these things interact and floating points, and all that kind of stuff. So.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

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Alternate Line: It's worth. It's worth the thing following up on it just from just from that point of view. Right

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Alternate Line: track 5.

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Alternate Line: It is

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Alternate Line: when the tide rolls in

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Alternate Line: and by Amelia Coburn. Anything you think we need to know before we

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Alternate Line: spin this one.

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Andrew's iPhone: And so Amelia Coburn is a folk singer, songwriter, and ukulele player from Madustborough.

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Andrew's iPhone: and.

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Alternate Line: Wow! Middlesbrough is not a, not a a a location. We reference.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, no, absolutely. Yeah. And she's actually kind of spoken out recently against accent prejudice.

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Andrew's iPhone: And after online commenter criticized her lower class

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Andrew's iPhone: Northern accent. That's in quotes.

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Andrew's iPhone: Lower class Northern accent.

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Andrew's iPhone: and and they said that it wasn't befitting of folk music to have to to sing with that accent which.

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Alternate Line: What?

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Andrew's iPhone: Ridiculous thing to say.

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Alternate Line: So Bob.

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Andrew's iPhone: Is.

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Alternate Line: That's the opposite of true. Wow! That's crazy.

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Andrew's iPhone: Absolutely. Yeah. So like. So, Coburn responded by saying that she's very proud of her accent. She's not gonna change it to suit anybody else.

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Andrew's iPhone: And personally, we'll see what see what you think, guys. But I think her voice is beautiful, and I think that her accent comes through. But in a really kind of positive way.

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Andrew's iPhone: and kind of similar to the way that the young young thanks do. Who are from a kind of similar part of the world as well. And so, yeah, so this is modern folk music from Middlesbrough.

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Alternate Line: Imagine saying that. Imagine saying like folk music shouldn't be sung with an accent

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Alternate Line: that's the dumbest thing ever so sorry. Irish folk. Now just forget about it. There's no point. Everyone's singing with an Irish accent. So I'm not interested.

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Alternate Line: Duh, I'm not terrible.

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Alternate Line: Terrible. Okay, so this is Amelia Co. One. Here we go.

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Alternate Line: You'll be waiting by my side. You'll be waiting by my side when he comes.

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Alternate Line: Viciously it trickles down his chin

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Alternate Line: Stand on the sandwich by the yonder toe. You'll be waiting by my side when he calls my

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Alternate Line: with when the tide rolls in.

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Alternate Line: It's funny, you know. I see, until you said that comment about the the strong accent thing. I actually wasn't.

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Alternate Line: It wasn't something I was particularly thinking of. And even now, listening to it with that in mind, it's still not something I'm massively thinking about like I don't. I didn't detect a massive like

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Alternate Line: there. There are other things with the vocal performance. I think I would say, were more important to me in terms of what was listening to there than that.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, it's it's probably if you had to say that there's other tracks in the album that we're we're comes through a little bit more, I think. Yeah, this one's a little bit straighter, I think, in terms of what it's doing. But but yeah, I I think it's still there. I think it's still detectable, and I think it gives a nice kinda

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Andrew's iPhone: but nice kind of rub almost. There's a lot. It makes it kind of distinctive and characterful terms in terms of reduction and

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Andrew's iPhone: or voice, and I like it. It.

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Alternate Line: It's definitely

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Alternate Line: It's a really unusual voice, isn't it? Because, like.

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Alternate Line: high in the, in the sort of in in the in the register there up in the range. And she has quite a

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Alternate Line: quite a trebley voice, anyway. I think she doesn't really have a sort of basic tone, and she's high

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Alternate Line: and then she occasionally does a little bit of you know, when she

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Alternate Line: so and that's that's that's way up there. So it's it's an interesting choice. But the the the

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, I can see that. Yeah, absolutely the the. There's this track. And there's another track on the I'm called. O Captain gave me home, and I think she has kind of work it in that kind of sea shanty tradition a little bit is that we we do tend to have that kind of slightly for boarding thing going on.

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Andrew's iPhone: and she was inspired. Obviously Middlesbrough's quite near the coast, I guess so. She's kind of bit inspired by that.

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Andrew's iPhone: And there's some other tracks in that the albums I've got. There's one called Seesaw. It's got kind of slightly queasy, almost kind of folk horror type, vibe to it. So I think there is definitely a little bit of that going on.

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Andrew's iPhone: And but she's also

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Andrew's iPhone: a very good storyteller. So there's a lot of tracks that are kind of working in that kind of more storytelling

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Andrew's iPhone: modes that they got kind of drama. She's she's a big fan of people like Scott Walker and Rufus Wainwright and the Divine Comedy.

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Andrew's iPhone: so that there's there's a better kind of that kind of

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Andrew's iPhone: slightly melodramatic quality to to some of the trucks as well.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

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Alternate Line: Don't know. Make it makes me. It makes me makes me feel a bunch of things. I struggle to get into words.

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Andrew's iPhone: That's cool. That's cool. You mentioned the fact that the kind of minstrel she she did. Actually, she has actually been traveling about quite a bit, she says. Spent, got quote here I spent almost 2 years working and loving in Paris, St. Petersburg, in Mexico City, all while keeping my eyes and ears open to the site. Sounds and unusual characters inhabiting these lands that were once so unfamiliar to me.

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Andrew's iPhone: And she's also kind of bringing in, you know, inspiration from yeah, literature and sea shanties, and as well as the kind of northeast landscape as well.

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Andrew's iPhone: And and yeah, these tracks were written on ukulele, and they've been built up into these kind of more full band arrangements with the help of Bill Raider Jones. So he he produced this record

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Andrew's iPhone: and the album's called.

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Andrew's iPhone: Let me get this right between the moon and the milkman.

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Andrew's iPhone: and it came out just at the start of March.

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Andrew's iPhone: and and it's been. It's it's it's get like a better word to move again on like Twitter and Instagram, and it's found its way into the top 15 of the the Uk folk charts, which is, which is really cool and.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah. And actually, she was a finalist for the BBC folk awards as well. So yeah, so she's she's getting a bit of a push. She she's another. We were talking about Martin Bradley. She's another one that

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Andrew's iPhone: that kind of started by just posting these covers of of tracks online and then and and got some attention that way. And

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Andrew's iPhone: yeah, it's been kind of building up to this album. And it's it's a really lovely record. I'd I'd recommend people checking out.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

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Alternate Line: I can put my finger on it because something else going on here. Which which you do really like. And again.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

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Alternate Line: I can't. I can't listen to Ganavia and Amelia Coburn when I'm at the gym, which is, when I do the the most of my follow up podcast listening. So, Cora St. Vincent, that's all. That's all good at the gym. But this is this is a bit of a hard sell

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Andrew's iPhone: No, I forgot. I think I think we've covered that. But yeah, just I would recommend that that you find the time to do it because

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Andrew's iPhone: so lovely record. And there's just heaps of potential here as well in terms of a debut record.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yep.

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Andrew's iPhone: it's really really good.

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Alternate Line: Very good, very good. Okay. So everybody. We now find ourselves at the end of our 5 new tracks and moving into now world famous

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Alternate Line: sector leading to use some educational terminology from Andrew. Nice real life, segment, which we like to call the Vinyl world where Andrew physically removes from his giant collection of Vinyl a record which has a sometimes obvious, sometimes less obvious connection to some of the music we've listened to today. And I'm just gonna take a moment before we get to that to say that if you have enjoyed this week's, podcast. Please spread the words.

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Alternate Line: And please recommend this, podcast your friends, especially the music loving ones, because they probably quite like what we're seeing. And I think, if you feel like, you want to support the podcast beyond that, if you can support the podcast financially, the opportunities there, just go to Www, pay me@coffee.com slash. We heard wonders.

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Alternate Line: And any money beneath us. There just gets rolled back into the podcast production costs of which there are some small costs, so if you enjoy it, give us a wee help out.

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Alternate Line: Okay, my man, to you.

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Andrew's iPhone: I thank you. And yes. So I was. I was kind of thinking around things for the the the vendor word. This week. I was initially Gonna go down that the flee route.

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Andrew's iPhone: I can't quite envision a time when we would ever play the red hot Chili peppers on the podcast despite you getting quite infused a bit, John, for Santiago. But I was considering some other projects that flee had been a part of, so I was thinking, you know.

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Andrew's iPhone: would be atoms for peace, or

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Andrew's iPhone: and the fact that he played

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Andrew's iPhone: based on the first miles, volt or album, and contributed trumpet to the second.

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Andrew's iPhone: Also he's also we do love it.

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Andrew's iPhone: He's he's also played with. Tom waits at different points. I very, very nearly brought in

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Andrew's iPhone: suffering by rocket juice in the moon, which was the super group that he formed with Damon Alborn, and Tony Allen. And it's a great track that they did

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Andrew's iPhone: with Erica, but Badu called the Hey shooter that very nearly made the cut.

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Andrew's iPhone: and then I was saying that to you, and then you said, I have it. I have the perfect one for this week.

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Andrew's iPhone: and you do. You do. You do have cause.

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Andrew's iPhone: And then you sent me a screenshot of some lyrics.

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Andrew's iPhone: I I didn't realize that this was this was a thing. But

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Andrew's iPhone: yeah. Saint Vincent actually took her name from Sir Nick Cave lyric.

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Andrew's iPhone: and which which I I never knew, and it's a track from

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Andrew's iPhone: the double Album Avatar blues, and the layer of Orpheus, which probably push, come to shove, is probably my favorite Nick Cave. I think I just love love that album.

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Andrew's iPhone: and 20 years old this year, which is

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Andrew's iPhone: always terrifying. And but yeah, I mean, there's like kind of fire and brimstone on desk one. It just totally comes at the gate with the barnstorm and opener, get ready for love, and

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Andrew's iPhone: and kind of goes on in that fashion, and then there's some more kind of lovely, reflective moments on the second desk as typified by just the gorgeous track, breathless, which which I just love.

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Andrew's iPhone: and but the track that I've gone with is, of course, the one that's got the reference to St. Vincent's Hospital, which is where St. Vincent got our name from.

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Andrew's iPhone: and so Lorrix and Dylan Thomas died drunk in St. Vincent's Hospital.

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Andrew's iPhone: And so, yeah, that's where that's where she took it from all those years ago. And the track is there she goes, my beautiful world.

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Andrew's iPhone: which is just a rush of a song.

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Andrew's iPhone: and I thought it'd be good to play us out this week.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yeah.

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Alternate Line: Yeah, I mean, I I was yammering on a bit. John Dunbo shielded on, and never for the wee reference to to Dylan Thomas. So we're just advisor listeners. Do not go gentle into that. Good night.

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Alternate Line: Rage, rage against the dying of the light, and

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Alternate Line: we'll see you next week.

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Andrew's iPhone: See you next week, guys

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Andrew's iPhone: the winter cream.

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Andrew's iPhone: the juniper.

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Andrew's iPhone: the calm bell, and the chinker

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Andrew's iPhone: heard you said to me.

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Andrew's iPhone: the air shut, the tree, the dogged

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Andrew's iPhone: Cheddar Sea, the Trimble.

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Andrew's iPhone: some furrows

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Andrew's iPhone: pushes down.

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Andrew's iPhone: See? No!

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Andrew's iPhone: See.

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Andrew's iPhone: John will pop in this poetry and riddle with a

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Andrew's iPhone: rolled on

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Andrew's iPhone: index car to a lectern in

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Andrew's iPhone: Cross

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Andrew's iPhone: and Johnny's.

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Andrew's iPhone: Yes, he's gone.

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Andrew's iPhone: Called marks squeezed his car. Bozo

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Andrew's iPhone: right in that

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Andrew's iPhone: da.

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Andrew's iPhone: and he broke it up, man, and he went on.

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Andrew's iPhone: Rubica

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Andrew's iPhone: set the

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Andrew's iPhone: instead.

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Andrew's iPhone: Go

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Andrew's iPhone: get me.

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Andrew's iPhone: Say, if you got a trumpet.

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Andrew's iPhone: get on your feet, brother, and

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Andrew's iPhone: gotta feel.

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Andrew's iPhone: Get up now. And

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Andrew's iPhone: the junior

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Andrew's iPhone: chipper

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Andrew's iPhone: really

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Andrew's iPhone: see.