The Chasing Daylight Podcast
278: Dan's Michigan Trip, Joe's cost of goods rant, The VGN in Mesquite
Can a handmade divot tool spark as much excitement as a round at Arcadia Bluffs? Find out as we kick off this episode with Dan's return from Michigan, sharing his golf exploits with Matt, Joe, and Jeremy. We recount our latest outings, including an unforgettable weekend in Mesquite, and shout out to Scott Russo and Unwritten Law for their killer intro music. Joe dives into a passionate rant about the cluttered golf apparel market, emphasizing the need for authentic connections over mere hype. We also reflect on the post-COVID boom in golf and how celebrities have influenced the sport.
Have you ever wondered if Peter Millar polos are worth the splurge compared to Sunday Swagger? We break down the quality differences, debate their value, and discuss finding top-notch gear without breaking the bank. The conversation heats up as we compare custom-fitted golf wedges to off-the-shelf options, weighing the merits of personalized fittings against mass-produced clubs. Rising golf equipment costs are on our radar, too, as we discuss how these trends impact our buying decisions and what it means for the average golfer.
Get ready for a wild ride as we recount an egg protein shake mishap on a flight that left everyone gasping for air. We also discuss Rory McIlroy's recent drama and speculate on how it might affect his game. Our adventures continue with a unique tournament called "The Duel" at the Loop of Forest Dunes, where Dan experiences the thrill of playing the course in reverse. We cover everything from Michigan's top golf courses to the newest gear, like the Canon laser rangefinder and Titleist's GT driver. Plus, we reflect on our latest VGN event at Falcon Ridge, share some fun stories, and reveal our favorite hidden gems around Las Vegas. Don't miss this jam-packed episode filled with laughter, insights, and plenty of golf chatter!
Links for this episode:
Canon Laser Rangefinder: https://www.usa.canon.com/shop/p/powershot-golf-digital-laser-rangefinder
The Loop at Forest Dunes: https://forestdunesgolf.com/play-the-loop
Falcon Ridge Golf Course: https://golffalcon.com/
We have a new partnership with The Golf Stop. Be sure to stop by their new facility and check it out! It's a great spot to practice, hang out, or get in some swings with the boys or the fam!
https://thegolfstop.com/
Please check out FN3P Golf, one of our show supporters. You can save some money by using our code "CDPODCAST" when you check out.
https://bit.ly/3yWe9pl
We hope you enjoy this week's episode, and if you do, please consider leaving us a review on either Spotify or iTunes. Thank You!
Can a handmade divot tool spark as much excitement as a round at Arcadia Bluffs? Find out as we kick off this episode with Dan's return from Michigan, sharing his golf exploits with Matt, Joe, and Jeremy. We recount our latest outings, including an unforgettable weekend in Mesquite, and shout out to Scott Russo and Unwritten Law for their killer intro music. Joe dives into a passionate rant about the cluttered golf apparel market, emphasizing the need for authentic connections over mere hype. We also reflect on the post-COVID boom in golf and how celebrities have influenced the sport.
Have you ever wondered if Peter Millar polos are worth the splurge compared to Sunday Swagger? We break down the quality differences, debate their value, and discuss finding top-notch gear without breaking the bank. The conversation heats up as we compare custom-fitted golf wedges to off-the-shelf options, weighing the merits of personalized fittings against mass-produced clubs. Rising golf equipment costs are on our radar, too, as we discuss how these trends impact our buying decisions and what it means for the average golfer.
Get ready for a wild ride as we recount an egg protein shake mishap on a flight that left everyone gasping for air. We also discuss Rory McIlroy's recent drama and speculate on how it might affect his game. Our adventures continue with a unique tournament called "The Duel" at the Loop of Forest Dunes, where Dan experiences the thrill of playing the course in reverse. We cover everything from Michigan's top golf courses to the newest gear, like the Canon laser rangefinder and Titleist's GT driver. Plus, we reflect on our latest VGN event at Falcon Ridge, share some fun stories, and reveal our favorite hidden gems around Las Vegas. Don't miss this jam-packed episode filled with laughter, insights, and plenty of golf chatter!
Links for this episode:
Canon Laser Rangefinder: https://www.usa.canon.com/shop/p/powershot-golf-digital-laser-rangefinder
The Loop at Forest Dunes: https://forestdunesgolf.com/play-the-loop
Falcon Ridge Golf Course: https://golffalcon.com/
We have a new partnership with The Golf Stop. Be sure to stop by their new facility and check it out! It's a great spot to practice, hang out, or get in some swings with the boys or the fam!
https://thegolfstop.com/
Please check out FN3P Golf, one of our show supporters. You can save some money by using our code "CDPODCAST" when you check out.
https://bit.ly/3yWe9pl
We hope you enjoy this week's episode, and if you do, please consider leaving us a review on either Spotify or iTunes. Thank You!
Thank you. What is up everybody? Welcome to another episode of the Chasing Daylight Podcast, number 278. Unbelievable. Thank you so much for tuning into this week's show. Dan is back in the house with us. He just got back from his trip to michigan with trey. Jeremy will be hopping in shortly. Joe myself, jeremy, were out at mesquite this past weekend playing some golf out there. All kinds of good shit to talk about. First, let's, you know, give a thanks to scott russo and unwritten law for letting us use that amazing harmonic intro still to this day. Thank you for that. Uh, the golf stop also want to give them some love. Uh, check them out. Indoor track man facility here in West Henderson for uh all you golf nuts that uh want to maybe, I don't know get out of the 110 degree heat that's coming in the next day or so yeah, 112 thursday holy yeah, summer is coming early.
Speaker 1:Oregon's gonna be great. Oh, dude, it's gonna be so nice to get away for that time hell, yeah, we're just gonna be beat for two months and then go put our toes in the cold ocean cannot wait.
Speaker 1:A cold little band and sand yeah, a little band, I keep on forgetting to bring it out. When, uh, joe and I were in bannon, the solstice scott, our buddy, scott scotty d uh took us. Uh, we went for a little drive around town and we went down to this beach and we were walking along this beach and I found a little piece of driftwood and I made it into a ball marker and I heat treated it and heat it up and it's nice and sturdy. I keep on forgetting to show this to you guys. It's pretty. I mean I don't know if I would like take it on a plane, because it's looks, uh, it's like a shank yeah, speaking of shanks, dan, did you put your your handmade little divot tool into play?
Speaker 1:I did yeah how did it work for you.
Speaker 3:It's a beast, it's heavy, so I might try to find some lighter hardware, but it's going to work.
Speaker 1:And they let you take it on the plane, or was it in your bag? It?
Speaker 3:was in my bag. Yeah, it was checked in my bag.
Speaker 1:I'm sure I'd probably be TSA checked if I tried to take it on the yeah, yeah that had made in prison, written all over it For sure for sure. But cool, glad it worked, hey coming soon the.
Speaker 2:Bogey.
Speaker 1:Free 62 shank tool.
Speaker 3:All right, fix some attitudes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you got a problem with your partner. Just fix his divot Before we get into Michigan and all the plays that you played out there. Uh, joe, you've been kind of on a rant lately with dog walk talks I have. So what's what's going on here? Let me get my uh, let's get the little banner up here, not that one, this one. There we go, uh, and then I'm going to do the poll question.
Speaker 2:So go ahead, tell what's going on uh, I mean, like you know, there's a lot going on in the golf apparel industry. Um, I just feel like there's like too much hype in golf, right. I think it's overshadowing the golf itself, which I'm not a fan of because the golf itself is the memories and the moments that you create. And I don't know things are. Things are definitely a bit overpriced, I will give it to Kith on, some of their things are reasonable. But yeah, I just you know me doing my own t-shirts and things like that and researching cost of goods. Now, like I don't own a brick and mortar, I don't have employees, I don't spend money on marketing, but you know, even at my cost, I feel like you add $10 to that. I mean that should cover most of that, right, and there's like dollars per acquisition of a customer, right. So for what they're selling them, for their, their dollars per transaction must be crazy, I mean, because I don't know, it's just there's a lot going on and there's a lot of brands out there that are starting and coming into the golf world and I don't feel like, with all the comments I've read, like I don't feel like they've been accepted yet, like I feel like they flooded the market. Like if you introduced yourself to the market in a creative way, into a like hey, welcome us. Kind of way, maybe you'd be more accepted and maybe it's just the hype beasts that are all about it and it will sell out for sure. But like what percentage of those people that purchase? It? Are true, golfers, I don't know. And it's like golf is at the apex, right Like after COVID. Golf is the thing to do and it's you know, schoolboy Q's playing golf, jimmy Fallon and Justin Timberlake are playing golf Not saying that they didn't play golf before, but it's like showcase now and it's becoming a mainstream thing.
Speaker 2:Um, I just think that if you're going to spend money on something, I hope you like it, I hope you want it, not just because your favorite celebrity or you, you know. I hope you don't buy into the hype. You know, because I used to do that when I was younger I was, I'd buy everything that I thought was hyped and you know, hoping to resell it or like thought I'd look cool and getting older, I just feel like it's a pointless path. Just feel like it's a pointless path. Now, if you do like it and you do want it and it connects with you, then there's probably no dollar amount that I wouldn't spend, right, like, if bandon created candles, I'd probably buy a band and candle I'd buy a band in, fucking totally you know, a chef's knife. You know, like, if it connects with me, like I will buy anything that connects with me. So if it connects with you and it's something you actually want and there's a story behind it for you, by all means buy five of them.
Speaker 5:Would you buy a ghost tree shaped chicken nuggets?
Speaker 2:I think that would be fantastic. I would love to serve them to my children.
Speaker 1:Bannon is for the kids, man.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know, I just feel like there's a lot of people out there nowadays that are just buying into the culture Like, okay, golf is cool, now let's get into it. Let's buy into it because it's booming. And if you are not a golfer and I'm not saying that some of these brands aren't golfers, I don't know them, but like there's just too much of it and it's a lot of money, so just like what you buy. And if there's brands out there like shout out stick and greens I know golf fathers, you know they're they're sponsored by Sunday swagger. Like a lot of things that are Sunday swagger don't appeal to me. But if Sunday swagger can sell polos at 60, $70 and they're great quality, really good quality, they are.
Speaker 2:How come these other brands can't do that? That's my thing, you know like. Is a peter millar polo better quality than a sunny swagger polo? What do you think you?
Speaker 1:I mean, you've worn both of them matt, you own, you know well, I don't have any peter millar polos because I'm not spending 150 bucks on a polo. I do have some peter millar stuff that I've won. You know that are not one.
Speaker 2:That were tea gifts from the solstice and they're the I mean they're nice, they are the best pullovers I've ever had. Um and I, I would totally wear one of the polos, but I I'm not going to drop that much money on a polo, but if there's another brand out there that's offering a similar quality, like I mean, it's not astronomically better agree or no? Astronomically, not astronomically it's better, it's just not.
Speaker 1:It's not.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't say I don't think there's anything that's astronomically better yeah, and, and that's that's just my thing, If, if there's brands out there that can do it cheaper and I don't know. You know it's such a deep dive into a world that I don't fully understand, so I make be completely wrong. But I don't like paying full price for things. Never have. If I'm going to order something, I search for a discount code before. If it's something I want, I'm searching for a discount code on Google. I'm trying eight, 10 of them on retail me not, you know if one doesn't work, then I have to come to terms.
Speaker 2:Do I want to spend? I want to pay retail on this, you know.
Speaker 1:So it's nothing's worse than seeing 90% verified worked and it doesn't.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly Most of the time, yeah, but there's options out there. There's smaller brands that you can support that might connect with you more than a bigger name.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:I was really impressed with them Buy what connects with you. If their story connects with you, fucking spend $400 on a polo. If you like it and it connects with you, then get that shit I was impressed with that sunday swagger polo.
Speaker 1:I was, too it. It performed very, very well. I was really. I was crazy comfortable in it all day long, had no issues. Um, we'll definitely be adding some more uh to to the closet, um, and I like the fact that everybody knew where I was out there on Saturday, yeah, but like you know, it was a great deal.
Speaker 2:Great price point $69 with Rocky's code, 15% off. That you know. Like there's options out there. That's all I'm saying is like, don't just buy into the hype, because there's just as good as stuff elsewhere and you might be able to buy a bean, a couple bean and cheese burritos, instead of buying retail on something that is hyped yeah, all you people that are on instagram right now hey, miles is there thanks, miles, for hopping on.
Speaker 1:If you can go over to youtube. We're really trying to get more people over on youtube. The the interaction is a little bit better there, you know. You get little pop-ups like this where we can share what you're saying. And we have a poll question going on over there right now.
Speaker 2:Since Miles is here, cause I know Miles is a artisan Don white fan I was watching. I saw the pricing on the tailor-made wedges at two 75. Right, so for my understanding, is a set of custom wedges through Artisan fit through you as $1,000. And you also pay like a fitting fee For three. I think so. I think so. Miles might be able to correct me on that. But if that is the case case, why would you buy some shit that's not fit for you?
Speaker 2:that is you know mass produced um, or you can take a flight down to fort worth and get fitted by the old oven cats and get something that is so much cooler oven cats and get something that is so much cooler. Yeah, not everybody has that in their in their golf budget though. Yeah, but if you're buying the wedges through the drop that just came out, but there there's, there's no knowledge there and this might just be appealing to newcomers, you know and that's, they're getting them in there and maybe they'll learn as they go.
Speaker 2:But me, being a knowledgeable golfer, and I wanted new wedges, I wouldn't buy those. I would find a way to do that and get baked inside the oven, you know.
Speaker 1:A hundred percent. That's how much. How much are the the Kith ones?
Speaker 2:275.
Speaker 1:275. That's, I mean, that's not not terrible.
Speaker 2:Not 50 is what the mg4s are going for each right now, right, or 225, no, no way, it's got to be like 180. No, they're more than that, are they? Yeah maybe I'm out of touch jeremy mg4s.
Speaker 1:Look them up real quick, see what they're going for. On the TaylorMade site.
Speaker 5:I think they're $175. Yeah, that's what I thought. Yeah, $180. My dad just got one and he I think we were talking about it like $175, but he got a discount. How is TaylorMade going?
Speaker 2:to charge more than Vokey on a stock wedge.
Speaker 1:I don't know, they're pretty they've been going up in prices.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I mean everything's going up, yeah, $180.
Speaker 1:$180? Okay $180.
Speaker 5:It's the same with Bokies. I mean, if you want to get the custom shop Bokies, it's going to be $250.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if you want.
Speaker 5:Rots probably more than that.
Speaker 1:So Steven Jackson was looking at.
Speaker 2:You can get Wedgeworks for $250, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, steven Jackson was looking at getting getting some JP wedges, and then he found out how much they are and he's not interested anymore.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, miles is the, the niche club aficionado, so he knows what's up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I remember when he showed up at legends and I'm like who's this guy with this McKenzie bag, with these scratch irons?
Speaker 5:Did he have national custom, or or were they scratched? They were scratched.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was a scratch iron, yeah, and then he just went out there and put holes in piute all day long but that's the thing I think.
Speaker 2:I think knowledge in the game is like. You know, you gotta find it right, so like hankering is getting expensive. That's right tailor-made and kith like, and I've been a huge kith fan for a long time and I respect what ronnie feig has done. But as you grow deeper with knowledge into the golf world, there are so many better options so who is the kith?
Speaker 1:who's that for who's who is? Is that?
Speaker 2:like kith is for the hype beast, the sneaker collector, the, the, the clothing brand you know, for the kanye fan, the drake fan, like those kind of people. Right, that's sneaker heads. Kith started as a um. So ronnie feig is from new york. He worked in a stock room at david z. I think I bought his second collab back in the day with Asics. He couldn't afford, or his mom wouldn't, buy him a pair of shoes that he wanted, and she bought him Asics. And then he fell in love with them and he started creating all these like um collaborations with Asics through David Z, which was a shoe store in New York. Um, he branched out, created his own store and started doing his own like it's like a sneaker store. And then he, he, he got a pair of um pants that didn't fit him Right, so he took them to a tailor and he got them cut the way that he wanted. People would walk in the store and be like, yo, what are those? So he started selling those and it became a brand Um, he also does collaborate.
Speaker 2:He's done with coca-cola, tommy hill, figure, captain crunch, fruity pebbles, looney tunes. Like he also owns, like a kith, treats is an ice cream store where they infuse cereal into the ice cream and it's bomb. There's one in la. I've had it. It's fantastic as a cereal lover, really good shit. But it's a. It's a sneaker clothing brand, so are are?
Speaker 1:are they reaching, going in the golf space or?
Speaker 2:my, my personal opinion is is, with the boom with covid, probably like he started playing golf, and if you have the opportunity to do things like that and collab with golf brands and you love golf, you're gonna go that route like and I I just think it and he searches for collaborations with out there situations. So I mean he knows what he's doing right, but it's for the, it's for the consumer of sneakers and clothing and people that are in the know. Great brand Does great stuff. I've been to two of their stores. They have one in Japan, paris, hawaii, new York, la, been to the LA and New York one and it's really well done inside. It's just different and I think golf has never seen something like this with the influx of people Like my generation grew up on Jordans and grew up on Cereal and Looney Tunes and Rugrats.
Speaker 2:He did a Rugrats collab with his brand. He did a Rugrats collab with his brand. You know that's the 90s kid and he's bringing it to you know things that you couldn't have when you were a kid. So it's a nostalgic aspect. So I understand it. I get it Not for me, not my vibe anymore, but there are others out there that will connect with it and understand it.
Speaker 1:Do you think it's there's? Do you think there's a place for it, or is just because of what's been going on? It it's now and take advantage while you can. Or do you see more elaborators like this reaching out to other brands? Title is callaway, paying whatever, and I can see more of it.
Speaker 2:We've already seen it with malbon I mean malbon partnering with a bunch of different brands like uh yeah, they did budweiser, like um I can't think of any more, but I think there is more to come, for sure well, they've done stuff with nike yeah, they've done stuff with nike, um, so has kith kith's done stuff with nike?
Speaker 2:not in the golf world, um, but you know when they've created those relationships and you know, I like I'm not a big fan of like supreme anymore, like I used to love supreme, like supreme's cool to me, um, but I think if, yeah, the vice irons, I think if supreme for those that are in the hype world, I think if supreme did like a golf club, it would be way simpler and way cleaner.
Speaker 2:You know, and, and that's my thing with the kith stuff, it's like overdone, there's, there's too much going on. But if, like supreme did it, it would just be clean. There'd be like a little box logo in the corner of the heel or up the toe, um, and yeah, miles said sugar loaf. Sugar loaf is like is a really good brand to give you like that hype world but also connects to actual like the golf world. You know, and I could relate to like sugarloaf, to like supreme, and you know they do mckenzie bags and like, I think for the newcomer, they're bringing newcomers into the world and once those newcomers come in and if they fall in love with golf, they'll find way better stuff in it.
Speaker 1:Maybe it's just an entry point huh point we'll see all right, so there is more to come.
Speaker 1:I do think there's more to come um, here's a little poll question we got going on this week. I found out last week how to run a poll on youtube, so, uh, this is this week's poll question. Should golf companies uh, you know that deal with a specific thing, like a clothing brand? Uh, stick to what they know, or do you like seeing these brands come out with small batch golf equipment at ridiculously high prices? And yes, um, I'm referring to malbon making a 1700 putter as oh, yeah, yeah, I forgot about that one geez.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's ridiculous I mean, and then was it a 35 000 kith golf cart. Joe, is that what you're?
Speaker 2:yeah, so 1500 deposit and then 35 total. I don't know the brand of the cart, but like well golf clubs, golf carts are expensive now anyways I don't think they're 35 grand, but I mean they're looking at some and I was like you can get a good one for like 17 grand. You know, like, do you actually need that?
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:That's more than what my car cost. Who Roll King, roll King.
Speaker 1:Roll King. Never heard of him. So we have to see if they're even a you know putter company.
Speaker 2:And that's the thing right. So like if malbon's bringing these people into the game and they're spending 1700, I mean, like you know there's so many more out there that could do probably something better for you, customized to you, painted, stamped, at a lower price point, you know, like twisted necks, like mac made and lamb and olsen, and you know there's so many, there's so many options out there how about that?
Speaker 1:that one piece olsen plumber's neck mallet that he was making today?
Speaker 2:yeah, who is he making that for?
Speaker 1:I don't know me, maybe maybe me, maybe me, I don't know it looked. It looked pretty sweet, though, so let's see, uh, how that turns out. Um, let's see, hey, what's, uh, what is your guys's thoughts on the Rory, amanda, baleonis or Brenner?
Speaker 2:rumors Renner, renner, yeah, no B, I don't know. I saw something and I was just like eh, that doesn't entertain me at all.
Speaker 1:No, even if it comes to fruition. That it's true.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't really care.
Speaker 1:I mean, I really could give a shit, you know joe's, so frozen right now not on my screen yeah, frozen, you're frozen, bro, I'll do the joe pose can you not hear me? Oh yeah, we can hear you fine there you go, I'm moving, yeah ah okay so no, nobody cares about rory and amanda renner, so we won't deal with any more on that. Let's get into the good stuff. Dan, welcome back buddy. Michigan was awesome. How uh your flight started off? Kind of fun.
Speaker 5:Oh.
Speaker 1:Jesus, yeah, what happened.
Speaker 3:Well, we didn't have a very crowded flight and Trey and I ended up sitting across from each other and we were just for you, yeah yeah, and we were just bullshit and talking about something and then all of a sudden, just this nauseating fumes, just I mean the most rancid, toxic fart I've ever smelt in my life. I even told Trey top three worst things I've ever smelt in my life.
Speaker 1:Top three.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was bad, it was super bad. Thankfully there wasn't anybody around for like two rows behind us, but in the height of its stench the flight attendant lady walked right through and just she had to have gotten crop dusted, I mean the apex of the stench.
Speaker 2:Yes, the apex, I mean it was it was at full rot.
Speaker 3:I mean we're level 10 fucking devcon 5, full rot and she just comes walking right through that and I look at you and he's dying laughing. I'm trying not to die, it was just, it was.
Speaker 1:It was incredible I could have an 11 egg salad sandwich dude.
Speaker 3:Well, he told me and trey, I love you brother he told me about this video about this guy eating egg yolks with chocolate and, like I'm not sure if he like blended it up and made like a chocolate mousse protein type of type of drink, and I think trey said that he had that. So if you can imagine a whipped egg protein shake, then he goes into an enclosed capsule and just unleashes death on all of us.
Speaker 2:In an enclosed capsule, flying Flying 600 miles an hour.
Speaker 3:Yeah, nowhere to go, thousands of feet up, no, nowhere, nowhere, we're safe. So yeah, that's how the trip started and thankfully it's. You know, it went and, uh, we got to denver and had a couple of, had a couple drinks on the layover that's funny yeah, that was, that was rough miles is chiming in a little bit about the rory thing.
Speaker 1:He said you go from tennis phenom to a crazy under the radar smoke. Show to Amanda the drama of what will happen to Amanda and how Rory will respond and if he's defecting and divorcing.
Speaker 2:I do believe that, right, I do 100 percent believe that. I just I really don't. I don't care much, you know, I think it's. If it does hit, it's going to be a story and it's going to affect the golf world In a different way, not like for us, right? I don't care about that. Now, maybe he might have some fans look at him the wrong way, maybe he struggles on the course, I don't know. But it doesn't affect me and I don't. You know, I'm not a big Rory fan. If I was a big Rory fan, maybe I'd care a bit more. But it's going to be interesting to see if it comes to fruition.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're going to be hearing Brandel Chamblee talk about it, you know, on Pinehurst 18 from a rafter and he's going to dissect how his swing is different because he is dating.
Speaker 1:Renner, you know, yep, just we'll leave that little nugget out there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, do the pose again.
Speaker 2:Yeah, true, he said. Miles said what players do we care about at this point that aren't PGA? Part of PGA? Not many. I like Bryson.
Speaker 1:Not many Bryson's probably the only one, just because of how animated he is and what he can do with a golf ball. I think Bryson came out of the PGA championship better than when he went in Than when he went in. For sure Nobody else did. Taylor Gooch certainly didn't.
Speaker 5:Well, he'd never heard of her.
Speaker 1:Yeah, hey, check this out. Oh wait, no, we're talking, Dan. I'm sorry, we can do that later. We got derailed a little bit uh. So what? What was your guy? What was the trip for? What'd you guys do? Where'd you play?
Speaker 3:so I had signed up for a lottery to play in this tournament called the duel. They hold it at the loop of forest dunes and the loop is a tom doke golf course that can be played in reverse, so it can play 18 holes one way and then the next day you play it in reverse the other way. Well, this tournament is the only day where they have it set up where you can play both on the same day. So, um, it was kind of a limited lottery draw. We got lucky enough, I got drawn and trey went with me and, uh, it was a pretty awesome experience, because it's hard enough to design a good quality golf course but then also to design it where you can play it in reverse and still have the same amount of difficulty or new difficulties on a hole that you just played in the opposite direction, like it. It was kind of mind blowing.
Speaker 1:Um, I thought it was actually kind of brilliant, um did you feel like you were at the same place, or are you standing there looking at completely different holes?
Speaker 3:Well, you can. It felt like you're at the same place just because conditions were exactly the same. But playing the different routes and playing it in reverse it, it gave it that feel like it was two different golf courses.
Speaker 3:You get what I'm saying yeah um, I liked the way they set up the red. Um, the red loop, which is the first round we played, the black one, uh, was set up a little bit more difficult that way. But also, you know we were tired, it was our, it was our second round for the day, so we were dragging ass the last like nine holes. But it was a pretty awesome experience and I definitely want to try to do it again next year, for sure.
Speaker 1:Is it nine holes or is it 18? It's 18.
Speaker 3:It's two 18-hole courses. You just do the red one way in 18, and then you do the black the opposite way for the second 18.
Speaker 1:So it's 18 holes? Yeah, it's 18 holes. I thought it was nine that you played nine one way and then nine back ways to make it.
Speaker 3:Oh, no, yeah, no, it's 18 holes. Oh, that's cool yeah it was pretty awesome.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean Doak. I know he'd always wanted to do that, especially after St Andrews, because St Andrews played in reverse. But I mean I really want to get out there, because I do want to see how that works. Yeah, you would have geeked out for sure, joe. Yeah, as an architecture fan, I'm sure it's probably really sick.
Speaker 3:Yeah, for sure, one day we played pretty well, we shot 66-68, six under, uh, two-man best ball nice. The winning team shot 66 61. So we kind of got throttled. We lost by seven, uh, but um, you know, we still took. We still took second, got some cool gifts and then um the next day we played the other course on property, forest dunes, which was just beautiful. It's completely different. Like. The loop is more of like a like a link style.
Speaker 3:I got a lot of of old Mac vibes on the loop, but the loop has, obviously, the more trees it's enclosed and stuff like that. But the holes reminded me a lot of of old mac. Um, I told trey that too, so he's kind of you know he's he's getting excited about it. Forest dunes, on the other hand, is like trails. It's in the trees, um a little bit greener, a little bit more plusher. Um, not as lynxie style. The greens there are definitely undulated, but not as bad as the lupus. It's more of a traditional like parkland style course, but it was in beautiful shape. The service was fantastic. The facility was amazing. Bars outside, customer service was, I mean, whatever they're doing, doing there, they're doing it right.
Speaker 2:Forest dunes is a sick, sick facility I think I did see something where there's another course coming up there too.
Speaker 3:They definitely have the room and there's rumors about it from the little you know, murmurs that we heard over there on the course. They have a 2200 or or 22,000 acres I want to say 2,200 acres on property. So it's plenty of room, plenty of room to add another course for sure. Yeah, yeah, wow.
Speaker 1:So that's not where you finished, though you had one other spot, right?
Speaker 3:Actually we had a few other spots. Yeah, after that we went to Arcadiaadia, played arcadia bluffs out there and uh, that was fantastic too. Um, a lot of a lot of bandon vibes, a lot of chambers bay bay vibes. Actually, I should say more more chambers bay than bandon, um. But um, it's kind of weird being out there because it literally is on lake michigan and it is like a freshwater ocean there's. You can't see land, you can't see across. It's crazy to think that that's just all fresh water. But uh, the course was awesome. Um, the back nine was. I mean I don't know if you guys have seen a whole lot of pictures of arcadia bluffs. Mean, a lot of times they show the overviews and stuff on the cliffs, but when you get down to that course it is a rough walk. It's probably worse than Chambers. Joe.
Speaker 4:Really.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there's definitely more climbs on the back nine at Chambers than at I mean Arcadia Bluffs.
Speaker 2:That's surprising.
Speaker 3:I wouldn't think that you wouldn't, you wouldn't. The pictures don't do justice how, how hilly that place is, but it's. It's awesome, uh, great shape. Greens are. The fairways are running really hard. So you know, trey and I were hitting some pretty, pretty big bombs out there, um, but the greens are definitely the um, the equalizer at that course. There's not one straight or flat putt out there on these greens.
Speaker 3:That's the Bluffs course. Right, yeah, we just played the Bluffs course. They have another course just down the street on the south course, which is a Lynx course Coffin Bunkers, Ray's Square, Greens. It looks pretty sick. We just didn't have the time to play that one because we had to make our way down to grand rapids bluffs course designed by warren henderson and rick smith yeah, it was it opened in 1999, same year as madness it's awesome cool clubhouse also too.
Speaker 3:After that, if you ever go to arcadia bluffs, you have to get the baked brie appetizer. I I had never had brie before in my life. But they give you like a little hockey puck of like kind of like melty cream, creamy brie cheese and then they throw honey and berries around it and they give you like these little crostinis oh, I can't even imagine oh, it was so good like I never. I've never really ordered anything like that. I'm not like a Focaccia or a what's that stuff called Bruschetta, bruschetta.
Speaker 2:Bruschetta charcuterie, bruschetta Focaccia.
Speaker 3:I'm not going to order that you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:I'm so glad. I'm so glad Trey did Cheese curds.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know, I'm not. I'm not a charcuterie board kind of. I mean, I'll you know I'll have a couple snacks. They're here and there, but I'm not going to order it, but trey did and it was fantastic and I'm definitely going to try to make that because it was.
Speaker 1:It was awesome, so yeah, go to arcadia bluffs, get the baked brie, and where's you wrap it up at?
Speaker 3:up down in, uh, grand rapids had a course called american dunes and, uh, this was really special because american Dunes has a collaboration partnership with Folds of Honor. So a lot of the proceeds and of the green fees and sales inside the clubhouse go to go to Folds of Honor. So it gives, you know, a little bit of help, a little bit of money to families of fallen soldiers. And it was, it was a beautiful thing. They have like a little walkthrough Memorial. Uh, as you get to the clubhouse you have to go through it to get into the clubhouse.
Speaker 1:Is that in that, that Dune state park right right by there? Uh, cause, I was when Emma was thinking about going to Kalamazoo. I was searching golf courses and I came across that it's a Dunes national park and it it looked insane and there was a golf course near it.
Speaker 3:So it might be, I'm I'm not sure, but uh, it's right in grand Haven. So if the, if the dunes park or whatever it is right, is in grand Haven, then yeah, it's probably it.
Speaker 4:I have to look and see but uh, it was, it was awesome.
Speaker 3:Yeah, nicholas course, uh, beautiful course, amazing bunkering. Yeah, nicholas course, beautiful course, amazing bunkering. It kind of reminded me of Tobacco Road as far as the bunkers go. Interesting, every tee box has two boulders One significant of a hole that Jack played in a major or some kind of career, um, um, like highlight. The other, boulder, was a uh memorial of fallen soldier, kind of give a little background of you know what they, what they, where they served and how, unfortunately, how they died. Um, but um, it was very humbling, it was very emotional.
Speaker 3:At one o'clock they played uh taps, um, they played it all throughout the golf course. They asked everybody to stop playing golf, so everybody was kind of there. They uncovered um, played taps. Yeah, they had 13 gongs, um, which represents the folds. When you fold the American flag in the triangular shape, there's 13 folds. So that was pretty cool. They also have a thing called a nickel in the grass and it was a I think it's more for Air Force, but they flick a nickel into just some long grass by a memorial and that's just kind of how they pay honor to fallen airmen. So that's on 17T, I think, but um, but yeah, it was just um, it was a cool experience. I've never really golfed at a course that had anything like that before.
Speaker 2:Very different, very different.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was. It was different, it was amazing, it was uh humbling. Um, you know, uh, trey, first Trey, especially cause you know his, his dad and grandfather, they, they were they served. So you know his, his dad and grandfather, they, they were they served. So you know that that's near and dear to his heart. So, uh, it was, uh it was a very cool experience and a fantastic golf course, really, really fun golf course all right, rank them.
Speaker 1:Rank them for us, one through five katia bluffs.
Speaker 3:Number one, for sure I'm going to go. Forest Dunes two. I'm going to go Red Routing, loop three, black Routing four. American Dunes fifth and that's not a knock on any of those things, because American.
Speaker 1:Dunes is one or two.
Speaker 3:There's awesome golf out there in Michigan.
Speaker 1:So because you won the lottery, are you like grandfathered into next year?
Speaker 3:I would hope so, but I don't think so. I don't know. They didn't really say anything like that.
Speaker 1:Well, I'll have to enter, so we can try and.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the more the merrier. I mean they even allow caddies out there. They even allow caddies out there so you know, if one person doesn't get drawn, you can caddy for your buddies that one day, but still, you know, join on the rest of the golf trip. Heck, yeah, so it was awesome. Michigan, michigan's dope I really want to get to Michigan.
Speaker 2:Really want to get to Michigan. Can you ride at Arcadia Bluffs or is it walking only?
Speaker 3:I don't know. No, you can you ride at arcadia bluffs, or is it walking? Only I don't know. Uh, no, you can, you can ride. Okay, you can ride. The only course we had to walk was the loop we rode on forest dunes, arcadia bluffs and american dunes you had to walk the 36 on loop yeah, we had to walk 36. We took push carts, though, so love it. Yeah they, they supplied them there. So that was. That was nice, not to.
Speaker 1:Is that a walking only, or is it just for that event?
Speaker 3:I think it was just for that event, because they're have carts at the facility.
Speaker 1:So I'm going to try to get full handicap verified for bandon so we can take a cart that's no, that.
Speaker 2:That defeats the purpose denny.
Speaker 1:Denny and I are working at it. We're. That defeats the purpose. Danny and I are working at it.
Speaker 2:We're all handicapped, jeremy and me be riding around the whole place. Joe, Joe, just be pissed.
Speaker 1:You can't do this. This is not how golf was meant to be.
Speaker 2:Yeah 100%. You gotta walk it. Let's do our Las Vegas to be yeah 100%.
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Speaker 1:So hey did you guys see, I know I was talking with jeremy about it on saturday uh, the new um canon rangefinder yeah, so they're checking their, their powershot technology and their.
Speaker 1:It's a laser range finder. It has a digital zoom, so when you look through it you can zoom in a little bit to get a better close picture of the green. Um, it has jolt. It's got pin seeker. It's got a liquid crystal display, super clear. Um, but then it also has a button where you can hit it and it will save your yardages that you shot and then, if you turn off the laser, it turns into a camera or video camera sounds expensive.
Speaker 3:It also sounds sick 399 or 375, really, yes, yeah, oh fuck, I thought it'd be more like a grand, and it's.
Speaker 1:It's smaller than the Bushnells. Wow, sick Interesting. That comes out in July.
Speaker 3:Speaking of new drops Jeremy how excited are you, buddy?
Speaker 1:Which GT are you going for?
Speaker 5:It's actually weird that they went with GT. I didn't expect that. I don't expect that, I don't know, why, it seems a little odd, but yeah, I'm definitely going to get one. They changed enough, I think that it'll feel like a different driver. I think Does GT have?
Speaker 1:any significance in the Titleist name? Is it a throwback?
Speaker 2:Is it a?
Speaker 5:collab with the grants. Yeah, I don't know what it's. It's odd gt's always been associated with cars and I don't know where yeah, so bikes, you know where they dino so it was. That was sort of left field, but but there it's. I always think about that, like the naming conventions. They started, they made sense like back in the day and then they started going random naming and it was like wait, we're going backwards. And then it's like they started throwing letters in the names.
Speaker 1:I think they're rolling a dungeon and dragon 20 sided dice and I think so Picking the first five Qi 10, max, lr7 yeah yes, definitely the xcw w1 but it did confuse me because they just been releasing pictures of that two wood.
Speaker 5:Like the mini driver slash two wood and that was the tsr and so I don't know if that was a core, only thing they made for like max, homa and a few players, but I don't know that sort of kind of shattered my dream of getting one of those. But maybe they'll come out with a gt version of it. I don't know, but the fairway, it all looks good. It's definitely tideless. They don't know, but the fairway, it all looks good, it's definitely tideless. They don't stray very far from the designs, but I think.
Speaker 1:Gloss black top.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Nothing.
Speaker 5:The face looks brighter, the bottom looks different than the current ones, the weights are in different spots, so we'll see. I'm sure it'll be in my bag.
Speaker 1:Did you already pre-order? Is that what you're saying? Maybe, maybe. Did you already pre-order? Is that what you're saying? Maybe, maybe, maybe.
Speaker 2:Somebody get this guy a sales rep. Let's get him a connect.
Speaker 1:Hi Liz man, Come on, We'll see. This is what I was going to show earlier. Anybody know what this is?
Speaker 3:Sun glasses, golden ticket that's what I was thinking.
Speaker 1:Matt got a golden ticket. No, this is a uh, sunglasses case, boozy, boozy, no. So um phone cozy, yeah. So out at Mesquite it was getting a little hot, people's phones were. So this is designed to have your phone go in it and it blocks 90% of the heat from the sun.
Speaker 2:Dan, you might be able to help me out on this one. What do they call those in jail? The Fousey Jail? What do I got to help you out with that one? What do they call those in?
Speaker 4:jail, the Fousey Jail.
Speaker 2:What do I got to help you out with that, jeremy, do you?
Speaker 4:know I have no idea, hey Dan.
Speaker 1:What do they call this in jail?
Speaker 3:Jeez.
Speaker 5:Okay, I got to search that.
Speaker 3:Is it the Raider fan in me?
Speaker 1:No, it's not a phone case in jail, do you?
Speaker 3:assume I'm some kind of felon no, it's no.
Speaker 1:I do because you're a raider fan, you've been to prison hey dan, what do they call the food in prison?
Speaker 2:no, not food, bro, yeah, so uh, what is it?
Speaker 1:called, it's gonna be 114 degrees the next couple days and, uh, I got a tea time friday morning early, thank god, um and uh, so yeah, gonna check that out.
Speaker 3:And then sunday, so do they make other colors, or is that specifically designed for the heat?
Speaker 1:they. This is nasa or nasa nasa tech, so they have a silver and a gold. This is the cheaper version. They have a black and a lime green one that's even more durable and but even more expensive. So I'm like I'm not gonna misplace this. No, yeah, or I could. I could put a chain on it and then, sell it on ebay as a fancy, you know there's like a little clutch, all right I'll write kith on it right here and then sell it on eBay for $600.
Speaker 2:Yeah, big money.
Speaker 1:One of a kind, only one. Ever made. One of one, one of one, let's see. So, dan, you weren't here for the VGN event. I was not, so you did not get to partake in Falcon Ridge.
Speaker 2:You had way better time'm sure with that, with the weather out there, you were living it up yeah I think the highest temperature was like 73.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was pretty perfect yeah that was one in the morning.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no doubt um falcon ridge, so, uh, so Joe, kind of hyped up Falcon Ridge. I was very disappointed. So, personal take, personal take. It's not funner than Conestoga, it's not better than Conestoga. It's really shitty the way that it's put together in my opinion. There's no range range. The putting green is small. Um, that back nine is some of the dumbest golf I've ever seen. You know, holes 11, 12 and 13, just absolutely retarded. Um didn't like it whatsoever. Uh, there's some other good ones, there's some good holes on the back, but that stretch, it's just fucking lame. In my opinion, no reason whatsoever. Should have never built it. Should have just kept that a trailer park community, old senior, retired nine hole course and left it alone.
Speaker 2:This guy's trying to get rid of golf courses.
Speaker 1:Other than that, wow, why don't you go spray roundup?
Speaker 2:go spray roundup on revere. Why don't you?
Speaker 1:uh, the the front nine, I I liked the front nine, I mean it was, it wasn't bad, it wasn't great. There's some unique holes, um, but uh, it looked like a Palm Springs desert community. Golf course, it wasn't anything special. And then the back nine is just a fucking train wreck. Just stupid, just stupid, just dumb.
Speaker 5:Have you played it, dan? I've played Pockenridge, yeah. So the only thing that disappointed me other than my front nine was the on the back, that hole that went around the hill yes, that uphill.
Speaker 1:They completely destroyed that hole because that they dug that entire mountain out and they're building houses and the houses are literally like they're going to be on top of the golf course yeah when you told me that I was like that would have made that probably a lot better hole, yeah, than than what it is now, because yeah, it's terrible, it's really bad yeah 13, 13 13 yeah, they, they did destroy that one dumb fucking golf hole.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they destroyed that one, yeah that's messed up yep.
Speaker 1:So and then the bunkers were atrocious. Um, the bunkers were rolling faster than the greens, um, which you never want to hear. Uh, we, uh, glenn allison played with us and on uh 12 he hit his approach, shot uh on the right edge, uh above the bunker, and the ball bounced, landed and rolled and dropped into the bunker and rolled all the way through the bunker into the water. And I was like I can't believe. I just watched that because I told him I go I, I go.
Speaker 1:Oh shit, your ball just went in the water. And he's like fuck you. No, it didn't.
Speaker 5:I'm like no, seriously, it was flat, it rolled on flat sand.
Speaker 1:Just kept going.
Speaker 5:And then we get in the clubhouse.
Speaker 1:And the same thing happened to Steven Jackson and Miles. They both, miles, hit his ball in the bunker and it rolled all the way out. Steven was on the backside of the green, hit a chip shot that went. He said he bladed it. So you know his fault for blading it, but still it went in the bunker and he went to go get it and couldn't find it because it rolled all and it wasn't a small bunker, it wasn't you know a little Rhodes ranch, you know little pot bunker next to the green.
Speaker 1:It's a big bunker and it it rolled like wild.
Speaker 2:So did you guys know that you're not supposed to hit balls into a bunker?
Speaker 1:Well, of course not. He didn't hit a ball into the bunker. He hit it into the grass and then it dropped into the bunker. I was only in one bunker, so I was fine. Yeah, he was aiming for the green. What you hit the green every time.
Speaker 2:No, I didn't play well, but I still enjoyed myself. I still think it was fun. I had a blast I just think that golf course is very overrated. Okay, very my defense. You had fun of course, because I was playing golf yeah, I said I think falcon ridge is a very fun golf course.
Speaker 1:I didn't say it was better than other places rob said it was funner and you agreed yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, funner, yeah, I think it's a fun golf course.
Speaker 1:No, it's not at all. I disagree A hundred percent. So in in in cliff logic. If someone said 10 rounds of golf between Conestoga and Falcon Ridge, I'm playing 10 at. Conestoga.
Speaker 2:I would not play one more time there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I didn't think conestoga was that, fun though it's, because it's a challenging golf course that doesn't equate to fun did you have?
Speaker 2:fun, fun, I think, I think, I think wolf creek Creek is it's another stupid course too dramatic. I think it's like if you were to relate it to shows like Wolf Creek is like keeping up with the Kardashians, you know and like. Connors is like Frasier, and then Falcon Ridge is like Seinfeld oh, hell, no, oh my God, that's a disgrace to Seinfeld. Seinfeld is way funner to watch than Frasier.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, but it's a great show and Falcon Ridge is not a great golf course. Well, I'm just saying it's funner to watch Seinfeld Wolf Creek.
Speaker 1:The guy who did Wolf Creek did the back nine at Falcon Ridge, right, and whoever it was. So they did wolf creek. Get this wild craze. Praise for it goes on a tiger woods video game and they're like we need nine more holes of this. And the guy that owns the falcon ridge property just happened to be at the bar and went.
Speaker 2:I got a place for you and they said, okay, great, the sports bar around the corner yeah, and they whatever it's called they put that there.
Speaker 1:It should have never been there, should never been there. Man, that's all I'm saying. Yeah, I, I there. There will be a time when I play falcon ridge again, but not in this life, wow. Done for life Done for life. No, I had fun, though. There's some cool views. There's some fun holes to play. There's some fun holes. I'm not going to lie, there is some fun holes. I just don't think it's worth the hype. I don't think it's worth the money they're charging.
Speaker 2:No fucking range. Um, the range was disappointing. They're not the one like. They took the warm-up nets out, which is was not good.
Speaker 1:That's a bad move, for sure they're, hopefully getting one that'll go alongside 18, which will be nice to have a range. Um, a lot of the guys were smart, went down to casablanca, which which is right down the street and warmed up, but yeah, I played okay and didn't need a warm-up, so I normally play better without warming up anyways.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was crazy because they sent us off at 8.30. They had everybody leave at like 8. 15 to go out to the course. There's nobody on the back, so the guys get to 18 and play it really fast. But they had two groups in front of us, an 8 10 and an 8 20, and the guys did not like clear the way for us to tee off until like 8 33 and so we're leaving. Joe's group is behind us and then two more groups are pulling up to the one t. You know I get like four holes in. Stephen jackson sends me a message. There's five groups on the number one t right now. You know, and it's just, it's like, you know you, you got 70 fucking players coming and they're going backwards. You know shotgun, you can't give us a little gap and hey, let's not put that 820 guys out right now.
Speaker 2:You know I, I will say they. They did not do a very good job at um pacing or pace or putting players where they needed to, and maybe they've never seen that out there. I mean, mesquite is not a large town Like the only other groups that are coming out there, like maybe like KGA or you know. I am sure SNGA has been out there at some point, but like that we had a lot of players, you know, and for them to put double up on every hole and then to put players out on the first hole when we're supposed to go out, not, not good, not good, and I thought the round was going to be six hours.
Speaker 1:And now we finished in five. Yeah, we finished in 450.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we were just past that, but I thought it was going to be a longer round. And that was at the moment where there was no wind and it was like 102 degrees and I was just like I'm about to die. I drank probably two gallons of water, a couple liquid ivs and you know. I think I think number one opening hole. I think it's a good hole. I think number two is a good hole. I think three is a great drivable par four that's like the palm springs hole.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I like I said, I like the front, I think the palm springs. Oh, that looks just like palm springs you every golf course.
Speaker 2:You must be playing in the mountains and spending more money. Um, no, and, and I think I think 10 is too wolf creaky. I do believe that I think 11 is a little Wolf creaky, but I think it's fun with the option to go after the green and one of our players hit the green. I think that's a risk or ward hole. I think 12, that downhill, I think it gives you a great view. That's the most dramatic hole in the back view. That's the most dramatic hole in the back. Um, you know, and if, if you, you have to hit it left and there's a bunker there and there's water to the left, and if you play it right safer play you have to hit a big old cut around the mountain to get there. On two, I think they've destroyed 13 for sure. Um, I think 14 is a good par three downhill, uh, basic, basic, uh, what is that? 14, 15 uphill, that's a tough, very tough hole, especially as most of us play into the wind dead in the wind.
Speaker 1:I had. I had driver nine iron thursday. I had driver five iron friday or saturday and jeremy saw that five iron, it was I think it was glorious yeah, I, I mean, I think it has some character.
Speaker 2:I mean, obviously like there are better golf courses out there. I think it's fun, I think it forces you to hit shots, I think it's um not as crazy as wolf creek and it's a little more crazy than conestoga, um, but yeah, I, I think in non-tournament settings, if you're playing with your buddies and you're just having a good time, I think it's a very fun golf course to play oh yeah, the guys in front of us were having a blast exactly they were fucking hammered and because they had more fun than you uh, no, they didn't, because they they were feeling that later on that night and
Speaker 5:if they slept in a mesquite bedroom or hotel room, they weren't very happy either well, one of the guys was climbing around in the dirt and fell and then after that for like three holes he was limping, so yeah yeah, it was a rough time yeah.
Speaker 1:And then we saw a guy hit his tee shot into a net that was parallel to the tee box at the back of a house. Yeah, it was a par three. He hit it 90 degrees Right. His buddy hit a ball that hit the house after that house and then went in a drunken stupor and dropped his pants and hit. Uh just yeah, it was a shit show we had we had that in front of us all day, yeah.
Speaker 1:So, uh, next year in mesquite, we'll have to figure out if we're gonna, you know, maybe do oasis casablanca, or uh go somewhere else.
Speaker 2:I do want to play the Canyons or Palmer course, because I've never played either of those. They're fun.
Speaker 1:Oh, and Jeremy and I, afterwards, we drove by Coyote Willows the little nine-hole course on the east side of the 15. Looked pretty cool.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Looked pretty cool. Everything shuts down at 2 o'clock and I mean it was shut down. There was nobody there 2 o'clock. 2 o'clock. Last tee time of the day it was 1.30.
Speaker 3:Oh no.
Speaker 1:We were going to try and go play it, but no.
Speaker 5:The retirees don't play in the heat.
Speaker 1:Mm-mm.
Speaker 5:No Well the same thing, wolf.
Speaker 1:Well, the same thing. Wolf Creek. Last tee time of the day was 2 o'clock. No twilight rates, full pop 2 o'clock. Last group out.
Speaker 2:Interesting.
Speaker 1:That's Mesquite for you, miles. What's the sleeper course outside of Paiute in Vegas? Outside of Paiute, sleeper course Coyote.
Speaker 5:Coyote, yeahoyote.
Speaker 1:Yeah, highland Falls. I like Highland Falls National. That's where the retirees hang out.
Speaker 2:nowadays I heard the Highland Falls course. It's a sun sitting at them.
Speaker 1:Senior community Matt.
Speaker 2:What are you trying to say? You know what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1:I way funner way funner than falcon ridge way funner. And I, hey, I, as soon as I played it I told you I'm like fuck, I can't believe I waited this long to play that course.
Speaker 2:It's a that is a fun golf course if I, if people came into las vegas and they asked me like sleeper courses besides piute in the area, I would not say highland falls ever.
Speaker 1:I think it's it's it's, you get a lot of good views. It's not crazy expensive. The course is in decent shape. Does that make it a sleeper course? Well, shadow Creek.
Speaker 2:Yeah, sleeper course is not a lot of people know about and not a lot of people are going.
Speaker 1:That's impossible.
Speaker 2:in this town there's three million people you could book a tea time at Coyote Springs for tomorrow morning at 6 am, probably right now.
Speaker 1:That's not Vegas. Though he said Vegas, he didn't say the surrounding areas.
Speaker 2:If we're talking to Miles, Miles will travel to golf.
Speaker 1:Of course he went with us to Paran.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, you can't tell Miles to go to Highland Falls. You got to tell Miles to go to Coyote. I'm sure he's played Coyote. He hasn't. I'm pretty sure he has not. What, what?
Speaker 1:I was thinking he's played courses that he hasn't played. That's what I was thinking. I think he would enjoy Highland Falls. The views are great.
Speaker 2:The architecture and Miles has some knowledge in golf course stuff.
Speaker 1:So I would send Miles to Coyote. He can't enjoy it.
Speaker 2:He can. Yeah, absolutely yeah, I know he can, but if you're going to ask, if you're going to tell somebody with that IQ of golf to go to Highland Falls, you're completely wrong.
Speaker 4:I still think he would enjoy it.
Speaker 3:He wouldn't, I wasn't recommending that.
Speaker 1:I was just saying I think he would enjoy it. Yeah National.
Speaker 2:National. National is great too. I just think a lot of people don't know that coyotes there, a lot of people, because there's nothing there. There's nothing there that people would know other than a golf course. Yeah, you know what I mean. I'll have to find out. Let's open up a convenience store and sell beef jerky random golf course.
Speaker 2:Have them do a coyote springs and see what kind of comments we get they probably have one, but that's also the type of place where it's like you want to get your ass whooped. You know it's like you're. You're gonna send right people there.
Speaker 1:You're gonna, yeah, hey, I do want to give a shout out before we get out of here to Sunday Swagger and the Golf Fathers, because they had a contest or a raffle that they were given away and they drew a name and dude didn't follow the rules. Got to follow the rules, got to follow like, and he did not do those, so they drew another name. Yep, well done, I won. I follow like and, uh, he did not do those, so they drew another name. Yep, well done, I won. I had rocky on. I said it was gonna happen. It happened.
Speaker 1:I just manifested, you know my own destiny um so since joe and dan um didn't tell either jeremy or myself about little LA trip and we're keeping that a secret, well, there's also an update on that.
Speaker 2:Ray fucked it up for all of us who yeah, ray.
Speaker 4:You don't know.
Speaker 2:Ray. Ray El Ray. The Ray El Ray.
Speaker 3:Ray's my coworker. He he requested the time off. Beat me to it, so no. California trip for me. Where were you going to play?
Speaker 2:Rustic industry.
Speaker 1:Dan who's Jenna Palmer.
Speaker 3:Hi Jenna, friend of mine, dan's a great guy.
Speaker 1:He's the homie he hasn't been to to jail.
Speaker 2:no, doesn't know what this is in jail so, uh, I don't know where that came from, but don't we can't even go into that, because the people that get it will get it, but other than that, yeah, we'll talk after this yeah, jeremy, we're during the show.
Speaker 1:Last week I keep on seeing these messages pop out that Joe's messaging people on Instagram going oh, we'll be in LA soon. Yeah, we'll be in LA soon. Yeah, let's go play. Let's go play and I'm like the fuck is this?
Speaker 2:And she was like oh yeah, well.
Speaker 1:Dan and I are going to go play rustic and a private course with some. I'm like.
Speaker 2:Oh, I see. So, we canceled the hotel Saturday Rustic we canceled. Derek was supposed to come Canceled. I'd let him know. We couldn't cancel Monday night. So me and Trey got our own little private suites at La Quinta in Moreno Valley, California. We're going to be doing it up, we'll probably eat portillos for dinner and then we're going to play with Mr DeAnda Tuesdayuesday and then heading straight back.
Speaker 1:So yeah, so uh jeremy jeremy and I are gonna go play cascada on sunday swaggers sunday swaggers uh, dime so that'll be fun.
Speaker 2:Are they gonna join you, or is it just?
Speaker 1:uh, rocky is. I don't know if anybody else is, but rocky is, yeah, sweet. So we're gonna set that up next week sometime, maybe sweet, looking forward to that. We got valley high coming up, yeah, uh, next week. And I hope my hand is like 100 soon oh dude, I I I went to uh dr dumbler yesterday and got the full workup on the knee and uh looking forward to a couple more sessions with him, because it's uh doing a lot better today, that's for sure yeah, yeah, he knows what he's doing, oh I.
Speaker 1:I had some. It was like so cool being there and, like you said, having somebody that knows golf treat your injury from a golfer's perspective was amazing. I'm either going to have a brand new knee or we're taking a handicap cart to Bandon. That's where I'm at Full robotic knee replacement handicap cart at Bandon. You better get that robot knee repaired quick. Full robotic knee replacement handicap card abandoned.
Speaker 2:You better get that robot knee repaired quick because it's abandoned. It's very soon.
Speaker 1:Yes, I know yeah, so I'll. I'll be filling out the handicap cart request forms.
Speaker 2:I? I mean, I've only been there twice and I've never seen anybody in a cart.
Speaker 1:I have, you have, oh yeah, yeah, there's, it's very rare mean I've only been there twice and I've never seen anybody in a cart. I have, you have, oh yeah, yeah, there's it's very rare it's very rare yeah they don't like them, but uh, yeah, I've seen them out there speaking of ben jeremy, how deep are you into that book?
Speaker 2:I dropped the book off to jeremy.
Speaker 5:Dream golf uh 10 chapters in. Oh, wow, you, yeah, dude, I've learned so much about um the beginnings of that course and like his property in Michigan. It's crazy I had. I had no idea that he was I just figured he was like a, a golf person from from the beginning, but he like owning a greeting card company.
Speaker 2:It's just so you know about the dunes club. Yep, I want to play that really badly yeah.
Speaker 5:It's fascinating, for sure.
Speaker 1:All right, let's see what. Uh, if we got any results on the uh poll, uh, four votes, uh, 50% of the people love it. 50% of the people love it. 50% said no hate it. Stop it. That something new we're doing maybe we'll have a better question next week.
Speaker 2:I asked Joe for help on that one and I gave him a lot of options and he picked none of them.
Speaker 1:Yeah ramble, ramble, blabble, blabble, ramble, dog walks. I was like, nope, not doing it. Ah, uh, so the memorials this weekend, scotty scheffler's going for another jacket, uh, to complete his collection. Oh, I had no idea what the poll meant so I skipped it. Sorry, jenna.
Speaker 2:Shout out, Jenna.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Hey, it's milkshake week.
Speaker 1:Yes, Get ready to see milkshakes. Yep milkshake week.
Speaker 2:A lot of Jack Yep His place Memorial's always really good, though it's always really good.
Speaker 1:Patrick can't. He's gonna win, probably because he always wins. John rom's not there to try and win, I don't know. It's good field elevated event right before major guys getting dialed. It's gonna be good, uh, jeremy's next week right other day weekend, can yeah? Yeah, that's right yeah not just coming again the weekend excited for pinehurst yeah, uh, dan and jeremy, I don't know if you guys know, but we're.
Speaker 1:We have a fantasy league that you guys are part of, that you haven't like anything for a while, so yeah it's been a minute, do that, so yeah work gets in the way I had the where's where to go, yeah, so, um, I dropped a little bit this week.
Speaker 2:Uh, joe is falling fast yeah, I didn't check if I had any players best cut.
Speaker 1:But uh, yeah, you, I think you had a guy dq after the first round and so yeah, there's joe and six cow dan, hey dan, you're not too far back, it's not. It's not bad dan considering how many times you haven't entered it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I haven't done it like the last, like month.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, there's jeremy, still lingering jeremy last place hey, you play three weeks and you'll be back up in the top 10.
Speaker 2:Some people completely gave up.
Speaker 1:I don't know if Conor still has it Inside the Leather podcast Inside the Leather they went to, inside the Superstroke Gone Gone. Come on, guys, you were a good show, bring it back, bring it back. I got nothing else. You guys got anything else.
Speaker 3:Dan, you got any words of wisdom for your trip um yeah, if you're interested in uh golfing in michigan, do it, just do it. Whatever it is, what course? Whatever it is, you want to, just do it, do it.
Speaker 1:You won't regret it, just do it unless they have a highland falls there because apparently that's a horrible place to play golf I want to go play pilgrims. Run too yeah, your list of places you want to play is long yeah, very, very, very, very long yeah, yeah, van life's coming for me, so Van life's coming for me. So Knocking off a bunch. Yeah, oh yeah, launch All right, joe.
Speaker 2:Asking us to join VGN tournaments in fucking Oklahoma and Iowa.
Speaker 1:It's going to be the VGN mobile tour yeah, coming to Saskatchewan. Anybody want to play? Yeah, let's tee it up. You know, hey, you want to play? Eh, yeah, let's tee it up, you know, eh, you want to play? Eh, eh, we can play some ball, eh. All right, joe, bring it home, do your thing.
Speaker 2:Hey guys, I'm coming to you live eh. Hey guys, what's your stay? Eh, I'm coming to you from the van in Saskatchewan. Hey, I'm coming to you from the van in Saskatchewan. Hey, thanks for tuning in eh. Hey, another week of Chasing Daylight Podcast. Thanks for tuning in. Everybody jumping in on the lives. Comments Instagram. Share it with your friends and family.
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