The Chasing Daylight Podcast
279: US Open Preview Show with special guest Trey Sanders
Get ready for an engaging discussion as we welcome our special guest, Trey, to help us break down the upcoming US Open. We'll kick things off with some personal golfing updates, including celebrating our recent winners at Falcon Ridge and a personal best score at Chimera. Joe shares his excitement over his new driver purchase from the Las Vegas Golf Superstore, and we can't wait to share our picks and predictions for this major event.
Join us as we explore the state of various golf courses, recounting our experiences from farm country to Promontory and Colville. We delve into the efforts to improve the Legacy Golf Course despite irrigation and greens maintenance challenges. We'll also touch on the transformation of Black Mountain into residential areas and the current conditions of Stallion Mountain, offering a candid look at the highs and lows of maintaining quality golf courses amidst ever-changing landscapes.
In our final segment, we examine the current PGA Tour standings and Scottie Scheffler's dominance, questioning the potential impact on the FedEx Cup playoffs. We ponder the merits of introducing match play to the Tour Championship and discuss the influence of equipment on players' performances. With the US Open around the corner, we delve into the challenges posed by Pinehurst's turtleback greens and reflect on Pinehurst's historical transformation. Join us for an insightful episode filled with golf excitement, lively discussions, and predictions for upcoming tournaments!
Links for this episode:
- Valley Health and Spine Center - https://www.valleyspine.net/
- Pinehurst Resort - https://www.pinehurst.com/
- The Legacy - https://thelegacygc.com/
- Chimera Golf Club - https://chimeragolfclub.com/
We have a new partnership with The Golf Stop. Be sure to stop by their new facility and check it out! It's a great spot to practice, hang out, or get in some swings with the boys or the fam!
https://thegolfstop.com/
Please check out FN3P Golf, one of our show supporters. You can save some money by using our code "CDPODCAST" when you check out.
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We hope you enjoy this week's episode, and if you do, please consider leaving us a review on either Spotify or iTunes. Thank You!
Get ready for an engaging discussion as we welcome our special guest, Trey, to help us break down the upcoming US Open. We'll kick things off with some personal golfing updates, including celebrating our recent winners at Falcon Ridge and a personal best score at Chimera. Joe shares his excitement over his new driver purchase from the Las Vegas Golf Superstore, and we can't wait to share our picks and predictions for this major event.
Join us as we explore the state of various golf courses, recounting our experiences from farm country to Promontory and Colville. We delve into the efforts to improve the Legacy Golf Course despite irrigation and greens maintenance challenges. We'll also touch on the transformation of Black Mountain into residential areas and the current conditions of Stallion Mountain, offering a candid look at the highs and lows of maintaining quality golf courses amidst ever-changing landscapes.
In our final segment, we examine the current PGA Tour standings and Scottie Scheffler's dominance, questioning the potential impact on the FedEx Cup playoffs. We ponder the merits of introducing match play to the Tour Championship and discuss the influence of equipment on players' performances. With the US Open around the corner, we delve into the challenges posed by Pinehurst's turtleback greens and reflect on Pinehurst's historical transformation. Join us for an insightful episode filled with golf excitement, lively discussions, and predictions for upcoming tournaments!
Links for this episode:
- Valley Health and Spine Center - https://www.valleyspine.net/
- Pinehurst Resort - https://www.pinehurst.com/
- The Legacy - https://thelegacygc.com/
- Chimera Golf Club - https://chimeragolfclub.com/
We have a new partnership with The Golf Stop. Be sure to stop by their new facility and check it out! It's a great spot to practice, hang out, or get in some swings with the boys or the fam!
https://thegolfstop.com/
Please check out FN3P Golf, one of our show supporters. You can save some money by using our code "CDPODCAST" when you check out.
https://bit.ly/3yWe9pl
We hope you enjoy this week's episode, and if you do, please consider leaving us a review on either Spotify or iTunes. Thank You!
what is up everybody? Welcome to another episode of the chasing daylight podcast. It is us open week. This is our us open preview show where we might talk about the US Open. I don't know the last couple of major previews show. We haven't really done a lot of talking about the majors, so we'll see what's happening. But this is a good one. We brought Trey back on. He's done a lot of majors with us. Thank you, Trey, for being here this evening.
Speaker 3:Cheers.
Speaker 2:We got Joe and Dan. They all were in the uh pinehurst area last year, so they've got some uh stuff that they can talk about. About pinehurst, jeremy and I have only seen it from a far, far, far away television that in our living room.
Speaker 3:So uh, I played in 2019. I got a little insight, I suppose.
Speaker 2:A little yep, yep, yep. So we'll be talking about that. First off, as always, we want to say thank you to the Golf Stop, one of our show sponsors. If you're looking to play some indoor golf, I highly recommend it right now, because it is blazing hot outside. Vegas is smoking right now Just 108, 110 in consecutive days. Go, hit up some golf balls in the AC on TrackMan Simulator, four Bays Bar, all kinds of food options. Now, right in that little spot, there's a coffee bar coming soon. Check them out, the Golf Stop. They're on Instagram, they're on Facebook, they're on Google I don't know if they're on Yelp yet. Joe Sorry, and also Scott Russo. Thank you so much for allowing us to continue that intro. As Beautiful Golf Course says. This intro, yeah, I love it, it's great. So that is the particulars. We'll get them out of the way. Um, we do have maddie g's forecast for the weekend. That'll be coming up later on.
Speaker 2:It's hot, it's hot, it's hot it was the longest forecast he's given us in a while and it's like it's hot, uh, so we'll have that coming up. Oh, I forgot to do this last week. Let me, let me, let me give some love to these guys because I forgot to do this last week. The Falcon Ridge winner's circle Michael Visegas, kyle Peters, kevin Furness and David McManus those were our winners out at Falcon Ridge. I was supposed to do that last week and forgot. So sorry, guys. There they got their five seconds of fame.
Speaker 5:Nice job guys.
Speaker 2:Nice job guys. Well done, done, well done, well done. So before we get into, like the us open talk and our picks and all that stuff, um, oh, we got already got comments. Thanks for tuning in trade in the house. Um, so some business to get to beforehand, uh, or just other golf talk. Asides from the majors, the major that's happening this week um, I was out at chimera sunday. I had my personal best. I'm very happy about that. I thought I broke it, but math is hard and I'm a product of the clark county education system. So, uh, my, my numbers were off just just just by one. So, uh, I thought I had a putt for 74 and it was for 75.
Speaker 3:So, did you make it?
Speaker 2:I didn't make the putt for 74, but I didn't make the one for 75. So that's the third time I've tied my personal best. Just can't get over that 75 hump. But it's coming. I feel it it's coming. The game is trending and I'm excited about that. Joe got a new driver, even though he hasn't played golf in a couple months, what yeah?
Speaker 5:That was sort of spur the moment too, like I'm sure you had a plan, but it was just funny how it happened.
Speaker 4:I just I just been waiting for the right moment. I mean julian, who is listening? Uh, I went to see him at rio seco a couple months ago and, uh, I have a buddy, um, who has a hookup at calloway and I going to buy the head for like three 30 head only. But Matt also put something new in his bag and he was like, hey, go down there two times Tuesdays at the. Las.
Speaker 2:Vegas golf superstore.
Speaker 4:Yeah, double, double trading value. So if you go in there we love Las Vegas golf superstorestore, but they use a different system than callaway uses if you go to the website, I mean shout out the manager he's. He's awesome. I figured his name. I think his name's joe. Is it joe?
Speaker 2:I think it is joe let's call him I think it is brown hair guy, yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:So he he's like yeah, just, yeah, just give it to him, just make it $1 less. I'm like, oh yeah, that's cool. I mean he upgraded it like $49 for the trade-in, which ended up being like $100. So, yeah, I got a new driver. I think it's long overdue. More ball speed. Julian helped me with that. Works for Callaway. If you need fittings, hit up Julian. If you need his contact, let me know, I'll send it to you. All of us will send it to you, yeah.
Speaker 3:We all have it Top three fitter in Vegas.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he's great, um, but yeah, I finally did it. Uh, I just was waiting for the right moment and, uh, situation and he did it and I was like, hey, I got some old clubs that don't mean shit to me and they're beat up and double trading value, let's go so the rogue ST is gone.
Speaker 1:I traded rogue.
Speaker 4:ST. I traded my driver head, I swapped the shafts, and my old lob wedge and my forward rogue Callaway from four years ago and I got like 120 bucks for that.
Speaker 2:So and it was the deal was I'd have to be in that ship into the rocks, yeah, so this is only good through saturday, so I thought it was through july, july no, no, this, this double trade-in is only good oh, so yeah, it's like two times the amount of the trade-in, or something yeah, if you go, if you, the best thing to do is go to the callaway website and they, you can see it it says trade-in days right on there and you can pick your club and it's only good on ai smoke stuff. Uh, if you're buying ai smoke, not trading in.
Speaker 2:But if you're yeah, um, ai smoke only so, yeah, go onto their website, pick your clubs and it'll tell you right on there how much they'll give you for it. Double the value and uh yeah, I ended up getting the new three wood Uh yeah, and if, if, if it's if it's not, if it's not similar to what you see on that website, ask for the manager.
Speaker 4:He's really cool, um, and she almost didn't double it. I was like, aren't you guys doubling it now? And he's like he was right there.
Speaker 2:And she's like, yeah, he's like we're doubling so um, there was a guy in here earlier doing the same thing yeah, maybe I should have waited a day.
Speaker 4:Well, I was like, I was like I'll just send everything into callaway. And then I I was taking the heads off because I was going to walk out and I was like, oh well, shipping and all that stuff. So it worked out.
Speaker 5:Yeah, it makes me sad that Titleist doesn't do that ever. They never. There's no discounts, there's nothing with Titleist.
Speaker 4:They don't need to because they got fans like you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they know their value.
Speaker 5:Taylor May does, everyone does Ping and Tylos don't do that.
Speaker 3:We need to help somebody in this group upgrade some irons. Who's that, daniel?
Speaker 5:I think Dan's working on iron. He's going to surprise us one day. He's just going to have a new set sitting in the bag.
Speaker 3:Surprise, motherfuckers, just make sure you get those 120x's.
Speaker 4:That was nice, but yeah, for uh it's. This is the first new club I've had in probably like two, two and a half years has it been that long? It's been a long time. No, you've got some you've got some mg4s I don't count wedges. I don't count wedges.
Speaker 2:Oh, I don't count wedges.
Speaker 4:Wedges. You should change out every year if you play a lot of golf.
Speaker 2:That's like you should change it out every golf.
Speaker 4:Yeah, if you play a lot of golf, change your wedges every year.
Speaker 2:Oh, I put the MG3s back in my bag and I'm like there's still a lot of grooves in these. I've never hit them before lot of grooves in these.
Speaker 3:I've never hit them before. That was always on the toe. Yeah, I have a brand.
Speaker 1:You know, I got a brand new lob wedge because that was the one I used the most.
Speaker 2:But all right, uh. So um, exciting news for joe, exciting news, for I got three ai smoke clubs in the bag now I got the driver, I got the three and I got the seven wood, so really happy with what callaway's doing with their fairy woods. I think they're outstanding right now.
Speaker 4:So that's matching. Matt's matching. Just like fourth of july matt's matching yeah and uh, the what it?
Speaker 2:I don't think in memorial day I don't think I'll ever get rid of that. Them five wood, though. That thing is just it's still out.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I still got that. It's so good it's so good.
Speaker 2:So, uh, joe and myself have both been going and seeing dr dumbler joe's been working on his hand.
Speaker 2:I've been getting worked on my knee. Um, great progress, very happy with it so far. Uh really enjoy going there and and joe said this the first time we're talking about it it's. It's nice going in and seeing golf stuff on the walls and knowing he's a golfer and there was two guys in the lobby that were golfers and we were talking while I was waiting, so it's a really great experience. He's Titleist TPI certified, so if you're in, I'll put links to him in the show notes again. So if anybody's needing some uh, some uh physical, uh attention, uh, he is the man to go see.
Speaker 4:So yeah, incredible sports rehabilitation, uh, rehabilitation spot like tpi certified, like you said, he knows his muscles, he knows his bones like he knows where it's at. Uh, dr dumbler is the man, and if you're in vegas, yeah, you have issues or ailments, go see him, and it's not only for golf, like he's like the tennis people are in there all the time ufc fighters, I mean, and just normal people like people he. He fixes people Go see him.
Speaker 2:Jeremy, how was Utah? Utah was good.
Speaker 5:Yeah, it was a quick trip, but I made sure to play Gladstand, mostly so I could take the opportunity to harass Trey. Every time I go there I think about that, so I just like searching around.
Speaker 1:I'm never going to live there.
Speaker 5:No, you're not, but yeah, it was good. The course is in like amazing condition because it's been sort of a longer winter so they've had a lot of moisture and it's just pure. So it's always nice to get up there and pay 60 bucks for 18 in a car we'll be up there next week. Yeah, the one you're playing is. The is my favorite place ever in the world, so wasatch hobble creek.
Speaker 3:Well, the extra round oh yeah that's like my favorite place dan don't forget to book that on monday hey, what?
Speaker 2:what is that that plays up in colville? What's it called dan? What was that one?
Speaker 4:oh shit, new place um, oh yeah, yeah, that place looks sick, oh my god, that looked amazing.
Speaker 2:Who was? Who was doing that? Who what?
Speaker 1:I think it was an architect yeah yeah that looked incredible. I have to see, I have to look again to see the name and the designer.
Speaker 2:But once I saw the pictures I was like holy shit I mean, that's that's farm country, that's that's cows and horses, that's I was, it's it like reminding me it's not park city. Yeah they're reminding me of promontory yeah, for sure erica, his mom had a friend that lived in colville and we stayed up there one time and and uh, I mean it's, it's, it's up there's it's out of the Valley.
Speaker 2:So that's going to be nice, nice, nice track to check out. So, uh, okay. And then let's see, I got two, three more things, um. So uh, played legacy Friday morning and had an a God awful experience and I feel really bad because I know they're trying really hard to do some things. They got a new superintendent, they got some new grounds crew people and they're trying. I give them credit, they are trying, they. They try to get a lot of the turf out of there. But summer started hitting, they had to change. They had a bunch of irrigation issues, but I've been talking with Trey there, told me that they have dumped a ton of money into the irrigation system to get the course back to good turf.
Speaker 2:Uh, they are incredibly looking forward to the fall where they can get the overseed in there, but right now they're. They're between their winter greens and their summer greens and the heat came really fast and the bermuda is coming through really quick and the old stuff hasn't died off as fat or gone dormant as fast as they liked it to. So the greens were a mess. I mean it was. It was bad, um, so, uh, we were. I mean there was. We were the first group out and we went out at five, 50, maybe five 40 even. And, uh, we caught the mower on the fourth hole and we were the first group out and we went out at five, 50, maybe five 40 even. And uh, we caught the mower on the fourth hole and he was just mowing the greens and uh, they were.
Speaker 2:Trey told me afterwards that they're doing, uh, uh, two cuts where they were dumping the bag twice, uh, getting getting the long grass down, but the guy would not, would not, get off the green. He, we, he pulled the flag and we're in the middle of the fairway, so we got no idea where the pin is. Um, and then he was mowing forever, and then he he'd go put the flag in and leave, like, okay, so we hit to the green, play, go the next hole, and he's on the green again. It's like good lord. And so, on the part, the part three, we just we hit while he was mowing onto the green and like, hey, you know, stop, dude, just take five, let us play through.
Speaker 2:Next hole, he was on the green, next hole he's on the green. And finally we stopped the marshals like look, dude's got to stop. And we were hoping, we were hoping that they send a guy out on one and a guy out on 10 to cut the green, but they didn't, they just sent one guy out. So, uh, the nine green through 18 was like shag carpet, I mean it was.
Speaker 4:It was rolling like a four so bgc said uh, he's had several people reach out about um asking why legacy is so bad right now, because he's recommended them in the past and yeah, it's, it's give it another week it's. It's been like, uh, it's been interesting. Right like a year ago it was just trash garbage and that, and then they started getting better. And then you know it's back in the day it was, it was the spot to play.
Speaker 2:So yeah, they. They went through some financial issues, they were struggling homeowner battle.
Speaker 4:They were trying to take the golf course away from the homeowners.
Speaker 2:So revere the company that runs revere took it over. Um, they, they got a new range machine and you don't got to go inside to get range balls anymore. It's outside, right next to the range. So that's nice. Um, the, it's going to be good. It's going to be good, it's just going to take. It's just going to take a little time, and they and they got to get through summer. So I mean, it's, it's, I think from T to green it's okay, it's not great, it's definitely not worth what they're charging right now, but everybody's charging crazy rates right now. So I'm sure they're part of the. Why not us? Uh? But yeah, the greens are are a little, but the green he told me that the green should be back by next weekend, like father's day weekend. After that the green should be fine, the bermuda will all be in and they'll be able to, you know, maintain them a lot better. So if that's true and the greens are okay, then then awesome course.
Speaker 3:So yeah, henderson is. Uh, I think henderson's dying for another golf course outside of yeah you know, outside of revere and rio chimera um there was another one and they took it away.
Speaker 2:yeah, Black Mountain? Was there?
Speaker 5:Shit, I don't even know, never heard of that one.
Speaker 1:They built houses on the falls.
Speaker 3:Yeah, downtown Henderson was. I know that Stallion Mountain is not Henderson, but it's Henderson adjacent, but I've never played there. However, glenn told me it's. I am very wary of this statement when somebody tells me it, but Glenn told me it yeah. Great layout or great routing.
Speaker 4:I have, you know, I have, hey, that's from the tips that's a big boy golf course. From the tips, they've been putting in a lot of work there and when they get to that point, it's going to be a good spot.
Speaker 2:I've had a couple people tell me lately that it is in really good shape right now, so they have to head out there and check it out.
Speaker 4:I love Naima. I think it's fun.
Speaker 2:Trey, that course hosted a pga tour event back in the day.
Speaker 3:Yeah, back in the day yeah, it was the old las vegas open or whatever it was las vegas invitational yeah, it was a country club back then.
Speaker 3:There's some good holes out there for sure, and from the tips, it's long, it's uh, it's a, it's a long course, which, no, I, I did I drove by there the other day when I went to go show some homes over off of Hollywood and Lake Mead and uh, uh, you know it was I. It's cool to see it. You know, it's nice to be able to play a golf course that's uh, that's outside of all of the ones that we normally play.
Speaker 3:but you know, I just haven't made my way over there because every time I hear something about it it's not good you know, it's not good you know and honestly I'm not gonna waste my time or money on a a great layout that's just gonna be putting on dirt that's a really good finishing stretch.
Speaker 4:There too, like, the finishing stretch is really good, it's really good the last four or five holes. Yeah, last four or five holes are really good.
Speaker 2:And then I was at Chimera Sunday. That's where I got that PB, tied my PB at, and, yes, that was very important Beautiful golf courses. I had to talk about that first. That course was in really good shape. We played with it was Rob Stephen Jackson and Cliff Harris. We were out there. We played with it was Rob Steven Jackson and Cliff Harris, we were out there. And you know, chimera is kind of like sometimes it's great, sometimes it's terrible, and so I wasn't expecting too much, but it was pretty good. It was pretty good. The bunkers have not a lot of sand in them and thankfully, everybody else that was in the bunkers ahead of me like suffered and then so I was just chipping out of the bunkers and did fine, um, but uh, yeah, course was in.
Speaker 3:Course is in good shape yeah, I'll be there thursday morning against the golf fathers yeah, trey's taking on rocky low play most around, but it was decent.
Speaker 2:Two for one anytime greens keeper deal oh slow play a lot of people or slow play slow players, because I mean you can get nobody out there and have slow play, and then you can be packed and nowhere for anybody to go yeah, two totally different things, yeah uh, okay, and the last thing before we get to us open talk. Um, so after scotty won on sunday, rob sends me a message and says does he have a chance to win the fedec playoffs with?
Speaker 3:before the playoff start I think so, so I I did some.
Speaker 2:I did some number crunching and interesting oh yeah, of course you know um, so he's got 5051 points right now.
Speaker 3:Zander is second yeah, at 2171 um I thought it was 28 2171 damn, he's got a big lead. Oh, he's got a huge lead.
Speaker 2:Oh wait, no, I'm sorry, he's 2000 points behind, that's he's 2171 points behind, rory's 3000 points behind. So there's 4700 points left. For the events the US Open this event is 750 points. The Travelers is the last elevated event, that's 700 points. Then Rocket Mortgage and John Deere at 500. Scottish Open at 500. The Open Championship at 750. The 3M at 500. And Wyndham at 500. So of those, I think he's going to play the US Open, the Travelers, scottish Open, the Open, then maybe one of the others.
Speaker 3:That's probably it. Honestly, I don't see there being a reason to him even play the last three events. It would be a good time for him to have downtime, spend time with his kid and wife.
Speaker 4:Get arrested a couple times maybe.
Speaker 2:So was like, well, what if scotty wasn't playing? What if he went to live right? Uh, so zander at 2880, uh, rory would be behind 835 points, windham 974, degala 1074, aberg 1095, and Hung on 1260. So I mean it's close if Scottie's not in it, it's tight with eight events left, but it's a blowout. I mean, if he wins the Open and wins one other event, I mean he's going to have a 3,000-point lead going into the playoffs. And the playoffs, you know it's two rounds, it's three events right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's two rounds before you get to the finals. So I mean he already has a 10-stroke lead. That's crazy. He already has a 10-stroke lead.
Speaker 3:That's crazy, yeah, you know. It just comes down to what I always say about players trying to catch up to another player. You just got to play better, and the problem is his B game is winning tournaments.
Speaker 4:Yeah, true.
Speaker 3:He had a B game at Memorial and, don't get me wrong, that was the hardest golf course besides augusta national and I watched some of it over the weekend and it looked incredibly tough. Those fairways are super narrow and rough is rough is super thick and I just think I'm not a big Brandl fan but he was talking about I might mess this stat up, but it was basically how far away or how close to the rough driver is off driver is, you know, off the tee. I'm going to mess this up, but anyway, for his swing speed at 119 miles an hour he was the most accurate in this category, at only 18 feet, eight inches from the center line of of you know, any given fairway and I'm thinking to myself, at almost 120 miles an hour. To have that kind of accuracy that rivals the slower swingers. It's pretty incredible and his ball striking is the best. I mean he is going to PGA.
Speaker 4:He's top notch.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, go on the PGA Tour app and look at his stats and there's a lot of number ones on there and it's stupid. And that has nothing to do with live players not playing or anything like that. He's just playing that good of golf that no one's really able to compete.
Speaker 4:That's the thing. It's like Tiger-esque. It's not that he or other players aren't playing well, it's that he's just dominating the field. I mean, he's just playing an absolute great golf game, currently Correct, and he does deserve everything that he's getting currently. But if, as BGC mentioned, if we get to the FedEx and he just runs away with it, do the FedEx Cup playoffs, the ultimate tournament, become a snooze fest, because there's no chance anybody catches anything and there's no drama. And in golf drama we want drama. Yeah, drama sells it, you know. So does Scotty Scheffler atlake step onto the T already winning the FedEx cup and let me you still have to mean it's still.
Speaker 2:I mean right, there's still, it's still a stroke event, the final, because it starts off at 10 under, and then nine under or eight under.
Speaker 4:Right so, but he's so far ahead, like, does it, he could probably shoot.
Speaker 2:But I mean, he is until then.
Speaker 3:Right, but winning the tour championship for a Xander Rory or anybody that's even semi-close to Scotty like Scotty could still probably finish 25th to 30th place and still win.
Speaker 3:I mean, I don't know, and there's only what 30 people in the in the final yeah, I don't know the exact numbers and maybe with this given season and how he's playing, which has been incredible to watch, you know, very tiger-esque. I remember watching 2000 and 2003 and it was just, I mean, it's unbelievable and there weren't guys like us talking about you know how one person is kind of running away with it and you know nobody's really able to keep up. But you know, maybe with how the playoffs go this year, maybe time for our revamping of how the championship is played.
Speaker 4:I think that it's been revamped.
Speaker 3:Right, I'm not saying I, and I say that not having a solution to it Match play no match play.
Speaker 2:I want match play.
Speaker 3:I mean, I think match play would be great. You know there's 30 players and you can Dan someone said we need to poke you.
Speaker 2:Make sure you're awake.
Speaker 3:You know, I think you know know, match play could be very potential because they got rid of the match play event that you know this season, which I love match play. I think match play is the ultimate, uh, the ultimate decider. And how great a player is, because every match is a new hole, and I wish we could do a match play event in the vgn, but it would take so much time yeah, make the, the 32, the the, you know, top 32 advance to match play I think that'd be sweet.
Speaker 3:You start on wednesday, yeah, and you go, you know you go all the way to the end, and I think that would be very and then, and then they don't know the golf course.
Speaker 4:You just you like. Monday you announce the golf course and then they show up. Tuesday they get a practice round and then I don't know about that.
Speaker 2:But no, that would be sick bro like they have a line they have like a bingo wheel and they they pull the wheel and marion, I'll say this seriously, these guys know every golf course and they can dissect anything they, they do and their caddies do, that's for sure.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I just think, the while it sounds very tempting, that kind of unpredictability in any sport would not fly, that's for sure, and I'm not yeah, oh the money behind it.
Speaker 2:They'd lose from not being able to sell tickets in advance everything correct, yeah, totally that's why the superbowl is announced three years but I do think that's true.
Speaker 3:You know, east lake is an amazing facility. I've never been there, but every time I watch it that 18th hole, par five, is just unbelievable to see. But the crazy thing is is I would love to see that. I would love to see the tour go back to firestone you know, play a match. Play there, that would be. I mean, that would be sick. I love that golf course. I wish they didn't take it off the road, but I under. I understand, but you know it's, it's. It's tough to say.
Speaker 2:I'd like to see him do a match play with it Like and a handicap it like okay and handicap it like okay. Scotty, you've earned this many points on the year. You're playing the number 32. You're the number one. He has to beat you by five to advance who would who's number 32 right?
Speaker 2:I'm curious, just for shits and gigs, if someone can pull this up who's number 32 in the fedex cup right now I got through 10, so I didn't do anything else that but, I did this too. I looked at points per event. Uh, so the guys that have scored the most point in the top 10, the guys that have scored the most fedex cup points per event, uh, any guesses, any guesses well, I'm the what not scotty. We're not talking scotty here. So, rob mcintyre, yeah, the most fedex cup 32.
Speaker 2:Their average FedExCup points that they've gotten playing on the season. Smiley Kaufman, that's hilarious. So Eberg has 148 points per event on average, Same with Rory. Then Xander is 192. And that's basically because he had a nice major at 700 points.
Speaker 3:Scotty guess, scotty's is 550 388, damn double, double yeah, 388 is what he's averaging per event well, and here's the crazy thing is is you know I was talking about his stats earlier and and last year he did win twice, but he had those putting woes. The crazy thing is, I think they use 205 players for the stats every year, or 200, whatever's on the tour, and I believe Scottie Scheffler's only in the top 70. He's like 60 to 70. I mean top 70 player as far as putting's concerned. It makes him a great putter. But the fact that he's in the top third of putting, not even like the top 25%, and still doing what he's doing, is just I mean, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 4:He'd be hitting greens bro. But the thing is is also from this time last year. Scottie was not putting well.
Speaker 3:Right, he was, top, he was bottom third.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, and Rory probably fucked it up for everybody, Like when he said Scotty needs to go to a mallet and then Scotty goes to a mallet and now he's on this roller coaster.
Speaker 3:Julian went to a mallet and made seven birdies on Sunday. So, hey, maybe the mallet is the way to go, dan's mallet, jeremy, maybe you should go back to the Betty, but you putt great with that black scotty, so don't change it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but those Especially before. Saturday and Sunday golf bag. If you want it to look, even don't do it. I did see the MyGolfSpy posted, I think, today. They said like mallets are better from 10 feet or five feet and in and then blades are better from outside of 10 feet. But I know Matt does not trust my golf spy, I don't either. But interesting stat. I would love to see the data behind that, but yeah I mean, some of their stuff is good.
Speaker 3:I like what. I just like to read what they have to say about, you know, the drivers over 115 and the golf balls over 115, it's just know. At least for a guy like myself, it's kind of interesting to read all of that. But at the same time, you know, I've tried a lot of different things and, like Dan, I just simply just go back to a Pro V1 X, because that's what I know. And uh, man, Dan, you really have to quiet down. You are so loud on this thing. It's insane. Um, but uh, uh, you know, it's my golf spy is. Uh, I'd like to say I'd love to be there during, you know, the testing just to kind of see how they go through it. And I mean, they still do it at Scottsdale national, don't they?
Speaker 2:No, they're in Virginia. I don't know what.
Speaker 4:They're based in Virginia, so I don't know they also, they also use robots, and no golfer is a robot. So like I mean, that's another thing. There's so many variables. It's like there's so many data points and so many tests you can do and nothing's ever going to be accurate. And that's why it pays to get fit by julian from calloway.
Speaker 2:Go get your budget why I uh, uh, kevin fernandez gave me a sleeve each of the new Wilson staff balls the X and the regular one and uh, I played the X. It's a little, it's very, very firm. It's like it feels like a rock. It's very firm, um. So I played the regular staff. Uh, played that on Sunday, pretty impressed, pretty impressed. Uh, great covered, great feel around the greens, great off the putter. It's a good golf ball. It's a good golf ball. So there's great options out there for every different facets of the game. I think I hit the triad a little longer off the tee.
Speaker 3:But that Wilson Staff ball did really well, I think, especially when it comes down to a golf ball, you do have to. You really have to try a bunch of different ones to then land on one.
Speaker 4:That's good at that. Matt's good at that.
Speaker 3:I mean, and you know, for me, when I first tried the left dash, I hated it. I didn't like it at all. It chipped weird, putted weird. But I think I tried that also when I lived in Florida, and Florida conditions are certainly much different than they are here.
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Speaker 5:I agree. I agree a hundred percent on that one.
Speaker 3:They are very good hey beds, hook it up at 18, even with the discount, it's a lot. Uh, anyway, um, but going back, you know, left dash, when I first tried it in florida, you know I wasn't, it wasn't for me, but out here that shit just goes and I get plenty of spin with it and uh, you know, I think I rotate between left dash and I rotate between left dash and the normal pro v1x, kind of based on conditions a little bit. Uh, I think it's a. If it's more calm conditions, I'll play the pro v1x, calm and firm.
Speaker 4:Um, no, not really julian, um, it's, I think I think if you're, if you're, if you're a decent golfer, right, there's two options for you pro v1, pro v1x, if you don't lose a lot of golf balls by titleist by the way.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I mean, but if you don't lose a lot of golf balls, there's two options for you Pro V1 or Pro V1X, because they are the best, most reliable golf balls that are made. They are, I mean, I hate to say it, I hate to pay $60 for a dozen golf balls. And I was playing Pro V1 and then I switched to Pro V1X and I saw tremendous gains, or whatever you want to call it. I'm now playing Pro V1X. I didn't think I was a Pro V1X player, but now I am.
Speaker 2:I've seen Joe play Kirkland this year. I've seen him play Strixon this year. Where were you playing? I love Strixon.
Speaker 4:I love Strixon because the deal that they got is great and uh, I love strixon strixon makes great stuff, but no, no, no, there's not more than one option, because I saw a huge difference between the strixon and the pro v1 oh, it's different I played the. I played the kirkland. Yeah, because they released yellow. It's garbage. It falls out of the sky, don't?
Speaker 5:play kirkland. What about last two?
Speaker 4:holes two, unless, unless you lose a lot of golf balls. If you lose a lot of golf balls, play kirkland yeah, absolutely if you don't lose a lot of golf balls. Invest in your game and play the best.
Speaker 3:That's all it is and I will say outside you know, if I didn't have 20 dozen left dash in my house right now, um, I would probably cliff shout out the boneyard. We'll keep that on the down though. Um, you know, I played the calloway tour then, or the new chrome tour, and I must say I'm I'm pretty impressed with it. You know the chrome tour x, I think I played don calloway tour then, or the new chrome tour, and I must say I'm I'm pretty impressed with it. You know, the chrome tour x I think I played. Don't know if I played the normal one. Uh, you know, julian gave me a bunch to try out and, um, you know, if I wasn't entitled to heavy in stock, I would definitely say the chrome tour would be the way to go as far as, uh, it's a good one that I would play.
Speaker 3:It was considerably better than chrome soft. I hated every version of chrome soft that was ever out, um, but the chrome tour was definitely a solid alternative to that. You know I may do srixon, but the srixon x is very it chips like a rock.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and that's the thing also too, Like Titleist has perfected the cover, so even if you do hit it out of bounds, it's going to retain its cover better than any other golf ball that there is.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't agree with that 100%. I mean.
Speaker 3:I haven't played the new TaylorMade just yet. I've heard very mixed reviews on the new TaylorMade Cover's way better than the previous version. I haven't played the new Taylor made just yet. I've heard very mixed reviews on the new Taylor made. Um covers way better than the previous version, but you know, I will say the previous version of the X was fantastic, except for the shitty cover.
Speaker 3:Um but you know I I just happened to go back to title list just because it's it's like old faithful, it's all reliable. I know what to expect every time. I putt with it, chip with it, hit irons with it, and you can kind of adjust from there and I'm pretty sure Dan and Jeremy agree with me on this one. It's just, you try other things because you're interested in, you're curious on what it is like. But then at the end of the day you're like what am I doing? I'm just give me the titleist back.
Speaker 4:I'm gonna play this, you're. You're curious to see what it's like to spend less money on golf balls.
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Speaker 7:What's up everybody? Matt Gontarik at Fox 5 and the Chasing Daylight Podcast. We'll do Matty G before I forget, because that's likely to happen. What's up everybody? Matt Gontarik at Fox 5 on the Chasing Daylight Podcast. We're drawing up a pretty decent Father's Day weekend for you. We have mostly sunny skies, temperatures still looking pretty hot, though on Saturday It'll be close to 108. So it's definitely looking like a first alert day and as we get into the weekend for Sunday on Father's's Day, looking like we're going to be starting to cool down, be closer to 102 to 103, but still pretty breezy out there all weekend long. So if you're going out for 18, still going to be pretty hot outside in the triple digits and then we'll eventually see some temperatures coming back down as we head towards the start of next week. Have a great rest of the week, everybody is he a member?
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh sweet. He won Coyote Springs last year in the arts division. Oh nice, Ballet High is going to be hot on Friday.
Speaker 3:That it is Ballet High on.
Speaker 2:Friday Jeremy, Joe, Dan and myself. Oh nice, it's going to be hot, Very hot.
Speaker 3:It's going to be hot when we play on Saturdayurday me and jeremy and that two-man at boulder playing all, all, all 27 on saturday in a two-man event that's gonna be fun what's the format?
Speaker 3:it's uh best ball shamble and alternate no, I think it's shamble, scramble and alternate shot. Good lord, so should be fun. You know, the guy uh that put it on was pretty adamant about taking uh at least two drives per nine of each player. I was like I. I jokingly told him. I was like dude, you're taking, you're taking me out of my team, bro, I'll just be like Jeremy, just put one in the fairway.
Speaker 5:I'm just going to send this damn thing, thank you.
Speaker 3:I got. I mean I'll hit, I'll hit it far, I'll hit it far.
Speaker 5:You make all the putts Okay. He is a damn good putter I am, I am, I am.
Speaker 2:I have vastly improved my putting. I'm coming for that. You know best putter in west henderson, south side title best putter in southwest henderson? Yes coming for it Been on a tear lately. Alright, let's get into some US Open talk, shall we?
Speaker 4:Let's do, it Do it.
Speaker 2:So Pinehurst number two Second time it's been here for the Open since the renovation. Martin Keimer won it the last time it was here.
Speaker 2:I mean it's one of the epicenters of golf in America, dan Trey and Joe went back there January of last year and were in the area, saw a lot of it. Trey has played it. I don't know how much Joe and I live on live at when it's at the majors. So I've been watching. It been on my TV all day.
Speaker 2:I thought Tiger's press conference was awesome because he said that you know, when Donald Ross designed these greens it was to shed water. They were turtle backs to keep the waters off the greens and the greens were a lot slower. You know they were running at eights back then. Yeah, um, they're, they're not. You know, a hard 13 like they are now. Um, it's a completely different type of golf.
Speaker 2:They said you know, this is not, not what don ross had intended this to be to have the balls run off the way they do, but it is. You know, that's the way golf is nowadays Firm, fast greens and uh, players have to adapt. Uh, I not sure how many players are going to be able to. You know, these guys are good and they're going to figure it out. But after watching some of the and we see this at a lot of times when they show the the balls, you know from the selfie cams dropping and disappearing in the rough and they drop the ball in the green and it rolls 30 feet off and then we don't see any of that during play. That's because these guys are crazy talented and they know what the hell they're doing. Um, and I think jesse bonner had a great comment earlier you know it's going to be a mental battle because there's going to be times when you're like I can't believe that just happened and you got to get over that shit, because you have the exact same thing happening on the next hole.
Speaker 2:If you're not, prepared for it so, um, I still, I still think we're going to see 10 under. When it's it's a major, it's it's these guys are fucking good, uh, anytime anytime you see these courses where they're like it's, it's gonna, it's gonna be. So they said this last year at la uh national that it was gonna be crazy hard and yeah, yeah, yeah, they always say it's gonna be hard, right?
Speaker 4:well, I, I think I think when you're dealing with donald ross peak, it's a little different, right? So like, yeah, I got to play donald ross, like real deal, donald ross for the first time last year. Why are you laughing?
Speaker 4:because you're so funny yeah, okay, but like it's so fucking different when you are there, right, yes, these guys are good, but you can. You can go back and watch video and and I don't know who it was, but he was someone was putting from an area and he, he put five putts trying to get to a pin location and all the balls came back like these. These turtle backs are different. It's a literal cereal bowl.
Speaker 2:Everything falls off and they could say they were showing the actual green size compared to the green size.
Speaker 4:I remember I saw that Chamblee was talking about that and it's. It's so different, bro, like everything. Just if you're not, if you're not on the spot and you're off by a couple of yards, it shoots to the sides Like it shoots the. It shoots it out there Like you're gone, hey.
Speaker 2:Jeremy, what did Martin Keimer shoot when he won? What?
Speaker 3:was his score? Eight under eight under nine under yeah. Do you know, bet you $1.
Speaker 2:I'll say this One American dollar.
Speaker 3:The US Open obviously is supposed to be the hardest golf tournament every year and especially with these greens, I firmly believe that middle of the green is going to be the best way to go on all 18 holes. They say that at Augusta and all of that. But the crazy thing is you know a lot of these guys. They're great chippers. You know pretty much every PGA Tour pro is a great chipper pitcher of the ball.
Speaker 2:And Xander's amazing.
Speaker 3:But that is different when there's no long grass to help you. You know, to use the bounce of a wedge to be able to chip great. And martin keimer won just putting the ball everywhere because he sucked at chipping. You know, he putted 30, 40 feet off the green because he knew that a tight lie hitting a 60 or 56 degree wedge is just not going to be the way to go, and I think a lot of people are going to have a problem with that, especially if the ball rolls off into the native area and sits up against a little fescue bush that's six inches tall.
Speaker 3:I think there's going to be a lot of people that are going to deal with that and you know there's probably going to be a lot of complaints regarding that as well. But I I firmly believe that it's going to go to the person that hits a high cut right at the middle of the green on all 18 holes, because if they don't, it's not going to hold. You know, I believe that if there's a like, I think Rory could have a tough time this week because he doesn't hit the high cut. You know, the draw off the tee is going to work, but if it doesn't stop before it gets to the native area. He's screwed.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but also like the land, the land out there, right, it doesn't demand a draw off of every tee, because I mean, though the land seems subtle, everything tilts one way and it's it's accented towards the opposite way of the green that you're supposed to hit into. And I've never played number two, I've only watched from hook lies yeah, but they're.
Speaker 4:They're way more subtle. This isn't the Masters, we're not on the side of a mountain, but I think Ross and Cork Crenshaw who renovated it, I think it pinches at the right spots and it feeds the wrong way that you want it to towards the greens, the wrong way that you want it to towards the greens. So I think pinehurst is going to be like I'm so excited to watch pinehurst because I've been to the area um, but especially with the, the greens, like you have to be so precise and with scotty. Scotty is a, a precise player, right, 100. But how do you deal with those fall offs? And I think it's going to be a, a scrambling it's. It's a scramble tournament, like how do you find your way out of bad situations?
Speaker 2:dan, you've been in the area. What's your thoughts?
Speaker 1:I wish we would have played Pinehurst a little bit now that we were there. Definitely go back to try it. But I mean I wish I did have a little bit more of a basis for comparison.
Speaker 4:But I think you think pine needles, I think it's pine needles.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean I'm sure the whole area is all going to be kind of like the same, because it's all harder. For sure, for sure. But yeah, I mean ball striking, I think, is going to be at an absolute premium this week, as well as short game, because obviously not everybody's going to hit. You know high percentage of these greens, but more than likely, yeah, whoever. Whoever does hit the center, it's the greens and regulation there that's probably going to be your winner.
Speaker 5:Um, yeah yeah, the tray before you start, because I know you're the only one that really knows because you played. But all right, I think the tough thing about pinehurst and I think we saw this at shinnecock too was the course evolves so much in four days that it starts out nice and lush and then maybe a little more inviting, and then it's just a shit show, like on sunday. It's just baked out, everything is like the pins are already tough, it's. It makes it even crazier, which makes it more impressive for the winner. But absolutely that's what I look forward to with a course like pinehurst is because it's. It looks different at the end of the week and it plays different I think it's gonna be great, like I.
Speaker 4:And why I said pine needles is because on the first hole, when we went to go play pine needles, I hit a shot into the green. I was like, oh, that's right on the edge and I hit a draw and it was going to just drop into the hole and it was going to be fantastic right. And then I just saw my shit just fucking bounce 90 degrees to the right, 40 yards into a bunker. Like when we say turtle back, it is literally ninja turtles, grab a slice of pizza. You know it's fucked, you know so you're saying so, you're saying the greens are yeah you have to?
Speaker 4:yeah, you have. That is that what you're saying? The greens are turtlebacks. Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 3:100% Are his other courses the same I had no idea the other ones in the area the same or not as extreme?
Speaker 5:Well, Donald.
Speaker 3:Ross, his signature is turtleback greens and kind of narrow-ish, tree-laden golf courses.
Speaker 3:Because when Donald Ross was making golf courses you know the technology and the equipment to make different style golf courses just wasn't there, which is why, you know I think they said he died in 1948, which is why out here on the West Coast you just don't run into a lot of Donald Ross golf courses, because he never made his way over here, unlike Alistair McKenzie where I don't know if he had hands on for a Royal Melbourne, but his people were there to do Royal Melbourne and you know, to do it that way.
Speaker 3:So you know, know, when it comes to Donald Ross and I, you know I've been fortunate enough to play very various ones throughout the east coast while living in Florida and there's a handful of Donald Ross courses that I've played in Jacksonville, and by no means am I saying are they like Pinehurst, because Pinehurst is one of a kind based on the land that it's on. But when you go to a Donner-Ross course they're very flat. Some of them are going to have rough, some aren't, but it's the greens that always give people the most trouble is because if they are firm the smallest miss turns into, like Joe said it can just go wayward fast. And that's the thing about Pinehurst. I don't remember much from when Martin Kymer won, but watching live from earlier there's no rough.
Speaker 4:There is no rough. Yeah, If these guys miss.
Speaker 3:They have to miss in such a smaller window than they would in any other golf course, because if it just goes off one side too long six inches, that six inches could turn into a 20, 10, 20, 30 yard chip, pitcher putt or bunker shot yeah, they're in the pines.
Speaker 3:Or then the wispy straws, I mean yeah or bunker you know I I am very intrigued to watch some of it this weekend. I don't know how much I'll be able to watch on saturday, but you know I'm gonna watch as much as I can because I'm very curious on how it is here. And you know I I played it in 2019 and I had to recall some of the photos that I was able to save from a shared album, but I remember some of it. But the big thing is is I just remember I remember a par three on the back and I think it was 17. And it's just I mean, it really is a turtle back.
Speaker 3:There is, you know, 10,. There's 15 to 18 yards deep and 12 yards wide that you have to work with. And if you're outside of that, like you're not on the green, you're fighting for a bogey. You know, I think, and I think a lot of people, if they have even just the slightest off week in their ball striking, they're probably going to miss the cut. Slightest off week in their ball striking, they're probably going to miss the cut. You know, and these, I think these amateurs that are playing it, which is going to be a fantastic time for them, I mean, they're in for a rude awakening because you know, college tournaments and other things like that are definitely set up a little bit more friendly than a U?
Speaker 2:S open is going to be. How do you think Bryson is going to do after his showing at pga?
Speaker 3:I got bryson doing well personally I think he's going to do well. I think the only thing that he may have an issue with is the short game. Yeah, you know being able to, you know it is how he does his short game. Is it going to be able to handle the insanely tight lies that are going to be around the green?
Speaker 4:you know, but his, with his distance, you know, as long as his driver he keeps it in play, he's going to have shorter clubs in than everybody else you know what I think pine hearse uh will reward is a creative golfer, somebody that can scramble, be creative around the greens, so that I think that's what it's going to reward.
Speaker 2:Are you? Are you saying tiger's going to win?
Speaker 4:I think it would be fantastic.
Speaker 1:I don't think it's going to win Ooh.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I don't. I mean, I think it's going to reward the person that can understand like, hey, this is a putter, this is a four iron pitch, you know, a little runner, bump and runner like hybrid or three wood, whatever it is. I think it's going to involve create a lot of creativity, and I don't know who that is, because I've seen a lot of players do it. I mean, obviously we've all seen the, the video of tiger pitching that four iron and then we've seen column or kawa bumping that three wood or whatever. But I think it's, um, I think it's going to require a lot of creativity around the greens yeah, I I think of all the tournaments tigers played since his accident in uh holly in la.
Speaker 3:I think this could be his best opportunity to not by any means try to win, but I think it could be his best opportunity to at least get a top 20 you know, yeah, because he's, he's got that, he's got the vocabulary to correct decipher this.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you know he's played there, he's played there a bunch.
Speaker 3:He's got the brain, he's got the hands and the crazy thing is is, you know, for tiger, it's not the ability to hit the shots he needs to hit, it's just his body just doesn't allow him to, to make it as far as he needs to make it to be able to compete.
Speaker 4:And you know, as somebody that has dealt with injuries that don't allow you to perform to the best of your golf ability, it's frustrating, no doubt, I will say I think tiger has a better probability than a lot of these players that have been playing other tournaments, because this course is very different from what others have played. I mean, is there another course on the PGA Tour or in the major roster that fits this? I mean, it's all shaved, everything shaved and runs away.
Speaker 3:You know, the only one that I could think of is St Andrews. Exactly, yeah, and that's why I was thinking about taking.
Speaker 4:Cam Smith, but he's not. He St Andrews doesn't the?
Speaker 3:one thing about St Andrews is it doesn't run at a 13 like. This is True. Yeah, the open courses the British Open.
Speaker 3:Golf Courses. The only reason that they do get fast is because it's extremely windy and it doesn't rain at all that week. That's the only time that you're going to see a british open like that, but I would think any of those british open style courses in scotland not in ireland. Uh, definitely mimic a little bit of what they're going to deal with in pinehurst this week, but pinehurst is just such a unique animal because they don't. To the best of my knowledge and maybe jeremy has this information this, I believe, to the best of my knowledge, could be the only donald ross golf course that they play on tour. I'm sure there might be a couple others, but I I don't know. I'm off the top of my head.
Speaker 1:So if someone has that information, please correct me, please correct me, but uh, to the best of my knowledge, I don't know him off the top of my head.
Speaker 3:So if someone has that information, please correct me. Please correct me, but to the best of my knowledge I don't believe that there are any other Donald Ross golf courses that are played. You know there's a lot of Pete Dyes and Jack Nicklases.
Speaker 2:We got you A-Rick. A-rick, we got you, bro, a-rick, we got you.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I mean're, I think what's so cool about this, right, like so, if you are a golf fan, right, and you tune into the live froms on the majors, like you will know who aw tillinghast is or donald ross is, and um, there's so much out there to be discovered, right, and I think pinehurst is going to shine and they became an anchor site, right, they got like what? What did they get five more spots in the next 20 years, or something like that for usg events.
Speaker 2:It comes back in five years.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it comes back in five years and then it's like 2035. I think Pinehurst is going to shine because of how good of an area that is Pinehurst Village. When you drive into that area you feel like you just want to retire there. You want to live there. I'm serious.
Speaker 3:I'm not doubting you.
Speaker 2:Van Life. That's the first stop.
Speaker 1:I haven't been to Van Life.
Speaker 4:Fuck Van Life. Just buy a house there, and then we'll come visit you.
Speaker 3:Buy one in South Carolina. The taxes in North Carolina are pretty high. We're going to be in bandon in less than 60 days, so I don't know what being there is like which you know the three of you guys can describe it, but I'll learn to take it in.
Speaker 3:But joe is right, especially now with the hall of fame there, the golf yes, yes, like I and them opening up number 10, and not to mention the dozens of golf courses that are within a 45-minute drive of Pinehurst. I truly believe that, like I said, I haven't been to Bandon yet, so this is just pre-Bandon talk. After we go to Bandon, have me on and we can have this conversation again.
Speaker 4:I will say Pinehurst Village is way more of a civilization. When you go to Bandon you're, you're an exile, Right, so so?
Speaker 3:my thing is is like I think Bandon and Pinehurst are kind of competing now, especially, I think, after this week, are going to be in big competition on who's going to be the better golf resort. But yeah, from what I know, in Bandon you better golf resort. But yeah, from what I know in bandon, you're right, you're. It's a little bit exiled out there, you know you're it's golf and that's it. The nice thing about pinehurst is is there's actually some things to do, some breweries and different you got doctors, there's doctors there, there's corporations.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah I mean there's no doctors anywhere, there's mcdonald's out there and the ambulance isn't also the taxi?
Speaker 3:and yes, but you know, and the one thing I will say is you have to stay on property to play number two and number four and and ten. I think. I think ten two now oh see, that's, that's where they, that's where they capitalize on being able to make the most money is because they know now, especially after this weekend, people want to play 2, 4, and 10. You're going to have to stay on property and, I must say, a breakfast buffet at that hotel prime.
Speaker 4:Also where they built number 10. Um, I think they have 600 more acres over by number 10. So I I saw a video of the president of pinehurst talk about like I think we're gonna do another 18 and we're gonna do a short course over there. Yeah, that way it could be like two separate, uh, areas of pinehurst. Um, well, and the crazy thing is yeah if you're in there, if you're going to the us open, go eat at the the track track restaurant.
Speaker 3:That place is probably jam-packed, but yeah, oh, my buddy's gone.
Speaker 4:My buddy's gone, shout out, jake massey Shout out Jake Massey Go.
Speaker 3:It's a fantastic Southern-style breakfast, Fantastic Cash only. But I will say the nice thing about the whole Pinehurst area is you can take like three trips there, four trips there, never play the same golf course.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:You can go there a weekend, do the four that we played. You can go back the next weekend and play five of the ten. You can go back another weekend, play the other five. There's a lot. There's a lot. There's a lot to do there, and not to mention I haven't even considered what was that one that Coach Rusty goes to all the time, Talamore.
Speaker 4:so yeah, talamore, yeah, talamore is there too, yeah talamore is there too, and I it's, it's.
Speaker 3:It really is the golf mecca of the east coast it's the cradle, bro, it's the cradle.
Speaker 4:So the cradle of american golf is where the us open is this week's going to be sick? I can't wait, I can't wait.
Speaker 2:Look up the odds real quick. See if you can see what the odds are. We know Scheffler is a huge favorite, but run those down. Dan, you want to make a pick. Who you think is going to win this thing?
Speaker 1:You say that Scotty.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, do we all agree? We think he's going to win? No, you sad Scotty.
Speaker 4:Well, I mean, do we all agree? We think he's going to win? Yeah, no, you don't think he's going to win?
Speaker 1:I think we can all agree that he's the man to beat.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I agree with that, he gets the top for sure.
Speaker 1:Personal favorite who I would love to see win honestly would be like I would love to see like Max Homa win. I think that would be. I think that would be an awesome, awesome year for major winners. But I feel like Bryson will probably play well too. But yeah, I'm going to. I'm just going to go out and live and go with Max Homa. That's what I want.
Speaker 2:Like it, jeremy, are you going with speed?
Speaker 3:Max Homa 50 to 1, according. To.
Speaker 2:ESPN oh, 50 to 1. Look at Trey doing your job better than you. Sorry, I got it right here fucker. Jeremy, do we have a surprise pick?
Speaker 5:yeah, I don't know, I was thinking Rom, but he's not playing anymore.
Speaker 4:I'll go with my default Jordan.
Speaker 5:Spieth, jordan, spieth, I'm so boring.
Speaker 4:He's creative, though, so I could see that.
Speaker 3:His creativity could help him out this week, but I'm still on the train that he needs a fire camera McCormick. Yeah, hot, hot, hot, hot, take uh 65 to 1 jordan speith, yeah, wow at least 75 on uh espn trey, who are you gonna take? You know I'm going I I like it purely because of the fade. I'm going calling morikawa great pick, I think.
Speaker 2:Uh, you know, I think I'm gonna have to go back and listen to all the episodes you on. I think you have picked him at every.
Speaker 5:I'm moving on, yeah maybe you'd have to go back, I just Subconscious Asian connection.
Speaker 3:The Vegas Asian connection. What bore?
Speaker 4:What bore, what bore?
Speaker 2:Hi Joe.
Speaker 4:What bore. You know, I don't want to do this um zander no, I think zander has a really good shot at this right, because his his uh short game is impeccable.
Speaker 2:Um that is impeccable at a donald ross course in and that's the thing right.
Speaker 4:So it's like it is very different. You know, um, I think zander could really get it done. I I really do believe that. But I think with bryson showing during the PGA Championship, I think, especially some of his chips from the runoffs on the green, like how he ran it up really low and just ran it in there. That's why I'm going with Bryson Hole-in-out stuff, yeah.
Speaker 2:Bryson Joe. What's his odds at?
Speaker 4:It's similar to I just haven't 14 to 1.
Speaker 2:What was?
Speaker 4:Morikawa. Morikawa is 11 to 1.
Speaker 3:We go.
Speaker 4:William Hill.
Speaker 2:We're William Hill activists All right, let's see what is that? Waiting for that William Hill? We're William Hill activists. Alright, let's see what is that.
Speaker 5:Waiting for that, william Hill.
Speaker 3:Jordan speaks what? 65 to 1. I was thinking about putting a 20 on that.
Speaker 2:Waiting for that William Hill line to come in.
Speaker 4:Yeah, 65 to 1. William Hill Best odds in the game. Sponsor us, Willie. Hilly, maybe we need to go check out that new sports book at sunset. Yeah, they upgraded I. I do really think bryson has a good shot at this one with his length and uh, how he, he, I, when I, when I was thinking about this, do you guys remember in the PGA Championship when he was low right on that one green and he hit that little low skipper in there? Yeah, and he holed it?
Speaker 3:Yep, yeah.
Speaker 4:When he hit on 18 on Saturday. Yep, that's the one that I was like Bryson could get it, you get Ross, anybody can get Ross this week. That's the thing, though.
Speaker 2:You ready for my pick that nobody ever saw coming.
Speaker 3:Let's hear it.
Speaker 2:Sepstraka.
Speaker 4:I like Sepstraka. Yeah, I Sepp Straka. I like Sepp Straka. Yeah, I like Sepp Straka.
Speaker 2:I'm going with Sepp Straka. No idea yeah.
Speaker 4:I mean, he's been playing well. And also Harry Higgs yeah, he's on a heater. He's been playing well. Also, harry Higgs, he's on a heater. I think throwing $5 on Harry Higgs is not a bad bet this week because he is on a heater. It's a different golf course, but he is playing very well. He won two back-to-back. He's slim. He's looking good.
Speaker 2:He's never made those Grayson shirts look better yeah makes it look like one of us love it, trey. What the hell are you doing, bro?
Speaker 3:I'm looking for something I wanted to show you guys, but uh, you know it's I'm not finding he's digging in his uh ball markers that's what that sounds like all 50 million that I'm going through my scorecards, trying to find what I shot that day. No, I don't have that. I just when you guys, they give you a coin. If you make a two on number two, they give you a copper coin, which I can't find right now, but it's somewhere in this big ass house.
Speaker 2:Jesse says he'd love to see Bryson win. Thinks he struggles with his wedge control. I he'd love to see Bryson win, thinks he struggles with his wedge control. I'll go with Morikawa. He's been close the last few weeks just to make needs to make some birdies on Sunday. Be right back. Ooh, chapman, taking Scottie to miss the cut at plus 800. Ooh, that's actually pretty good numbers. Where'd Joe go now?
Speaker 5:Ready to wrap this thing up? He's helping trey look for his ball marker.
Speaker 2:Did joe make a two on two?
Speaker 5:so what's your, what's your guys's earliest memory of pinehurst?
Speaker 3:pain stewart pain stewart yeah, yeah same, I was 99. I was 12 years old and you know, I was just kind of starting to watch golf. The first tournament that I really remember watching was at the PGA, when Sergio did the jump in the fairway Scissor kick. Yeah, so that was like the first one that I really remember watching uh, through and through.
Speaker 3:You know I did watch the U S open but um, and then the, then the Ryder cup in 99, I watched, and you know I watched everything after that obviously, but uh, you know, cause I was just kind of starting golf about 11 years old and I was in 98 and uh, yeah said that out loud um, so yeah, I mean that's that's the earliest that I have of pinehurst, but the crazy thing is is like I I was watching some of the uh, I see some of the photos on instagram and even when they talked about it on live from about the before, core Crenshaw and after, and honestly I know that what they did core and core Crenshaw they kind of brought it back to the original the original layout with the, with the native land and the.
Speaker 3:You know what? I'm just calling it fescue, but with the native land and the bushes and the fes native land. And you know what? I'm just calling it fescue, but with the native land and the bushes and the fescue. And you know, obviously I've played it. It's it's a fun layout, it's fun to play, but I would love to have experienced it as well.
Speaker 3:Uh, pre-cork crenshaw, because the green lush and the rough, the green lush, I mean that's. I love that golf. You know, when dan and I were up in michigan, it was very similar to that. Everything was green, everything was lush, trees everywhere, and he and I were freaking out because, you know, there's more trees in michigan than in the whole state of nevada.
Speaker 4:So so you? So what do you? What'd you say?
Speaker 2:you said you'd rather play it pinehurst lush than no, he would have liked to have played it before the reno, when it was green and lush and rough and tight fairways and like I don't remember.
Speaker 3:I I remember watching the pinehurst with payne stewart, but at the same time, I know core crenshaw did it in 2010. I would just have loved to see it both what it was before core crenshaw. Now, you know, I think it would be a definitely a different golf course and they would have the four inch, five inch thick rough. But yeah, I understand why they went back to the way it is now, to kind of reminisce, you know, the old way yeah, I had it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I was watching.
Speaker 4:I don't remember what I was watching, but I saw someone say, like if Donald Ross was alive today and he stepped on this property, he'd be like this is how I remembered it, and I think that's what's really cool about it, you know, and it is a it's like a resurgence in golf currently, like it's restoring things back to how they used to be, which I I think is really cool, not just in golf, but in an aspect of how the world is right. So like they're restoring pasatiempo to how allister mckenzie would remember it when he stepped on that property and designed it. And you know, with the way the world's going, everything is so different and it's so cool to see golf embracing the past and how the original architects remembered it. I think that's so dope, you know what I mean. Like if Donald Ross was alive today and he stepped on Pinehurst number two he'd be like this is how I remembered it, you know it'd be cool to make a move, it'd be cool to make a movie on him designing Pinehurst and and kind of.
Speaker 3:I mean I'm no movie maker to make a movie on him designing Pinehurst, totally I'm no movie maker but I think being able to have something like that and maybe not like a wide release kind of movie, but I believe or just a documentary on Netflix, yeah like a documentary or something like that. I still think it'd be sweet to make this old golf movie like you and I've talked about, but, um, you know, I think that'd be pretty cool.
Speaker 4:I think the way that that golf has exploded, I there's so many opportunities and everything Like. If you do it right, there's, there's an avenue for you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, absolutely. But at the same time does time, does you know, I'm not including you in this, joe, but you know, do covid golfers really care about that shit? You know, that's most don't.
Speaker 4:Yeah, most don't, but you know there is some that will.
Speaker 3:I'd rather them care about fixing their ball marks and playing fast yeah, I mean, but you could create a movie on that too.
Speaker 4:Fix your ball marks, you bitch ass, fucking asshole or, or have a kids channel youtube about golf no, don't give my idea away. What the fuck, bro. There's money to be made in that. There is money there.
Speaker 2:Episode one series one and that's everything, so thanks no dude, there won't be an episode two because we covered everything in episode one there's a lot, I just need to joe, you remember those?
Speaker 1:um, oh god, there's those little specials. They would play on Saturday morning.
Speaker 2:It would be like Now you know the public service announcements More you know, kind of something like that.
Speaker 1:but you used to have Schoolhouse Rocky, remember that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, schoolhouse Rocky, absolutely.
Speaker 1:And they would do those little songs like Conjunction, junction, what's your function? They just need DJ Khaled to go out there right little raps joe little song and show it's right there let's do like a little 30, 30, 45, second little rap song.
Speaker 4:These little, these little kids can remember you know exactly, and it doesn't even have to be about like fixing your ball marks. It could be like golf started in scotland with that dude named tom morris.
Speaker 3:Whatever the case, we gotta just gotta make sure, we drink some scottish whiskey while we do it yeah oh yeah
Speaker 4:but you can go through all the players, you can go through all the tournaments like oh yeah kids the history of golf, so that way they know that's so much more exciting than what they're doing. I'm'm not a singer bro.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying you got to look at the attention span of kids nowadays. Ain't no kid going to sit down and watch a YouTube video about golf etiquette?
Speaker 4:That's why I don't do it If there's something I want to do.
Speaker 3:we can figure it out, and I think that's a major issue nowadays.
Speaker 1:Say that again, Dan. I said you never know. They sit there and watch YouTube videos of other kids playing video games. That is true.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and other kids doing that all the time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, my niece does that. She's like seven years old. I go, what are you doing? She's like oh, I'm watching this thing. I go. Are you playing the game?
Speaker 4:She goes no, what if this dude was breaking down the golf swing? He would probably try and do that same thing. And then you could do like creative episodes of teaching, like the history of Walter Hagen or Ben Hogan or Tiger Woods or whatever the case may be. Yeah, or the Masters, which we all love, the fucking Masters. But I don't have a green screen and I can't animate. But hey, if someone's out there and you want to create a Golf of Kids YouTube channel song thing like Blippi or something Like that J-Cut guy.
Speaker 1:I could write it. I'll write it. Yeah, like J-Cut, but kids version.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I just think you know there's got to be.
Speaker 4:Damn, I got to mess with J-Cut now.
Speaker 3:The only way I can relate this right now is remember that old school um sex video we watched in high school and middle school. Like that's what I think about as far as creating some florida shit.
Speaker 1:There's some panhandle shit and he, he does Dallas in sixth grade.
Speaker 3:No, this is what I'm talking about. It has having a basic-ass video that tells people different etiquette, different things on proper way to play golf to keep the things moving, and that's kind of like. What I'm talking about is the old freaking video we all watched growing up through middle school and high school about sex, but have something fun and exciting related, similar video style about golf Because, let's face it, there's so many new golfers which I have my opinions on, but at the same time, nobody knows shit about etiquette raking bunkers, filling divots, fixing ball marks no, they should do a uh a like you pay for your tea time.
Speaker 2:okay, in the next room there's a five minute presentation that we need you to watch before you head out to the practice area and you sit there and it's like after you've hit your ball from a bunker, you grab the rake and you do it like this. That would be amazing. Have it all scratchy like it was done in the 50s oh, that would be awesome.
Speaker 3:Or you remember the old God was it the Snickers commercials with the linebacker Terry or whatever it was? God, I can't remember those commercials. I think it was Bud Light or Budweiser or something. Terry, the linebacker would come and tackle you because you drank the wrong beer or something, something like that. I can't remember Shit, that's so long ago.
Speaker 2:Yeah, to see somebody get tackled in the bunker because they walked out.
Speaker 3:Yeah well, you have someone fixing a ball marker wrong. Then bam, someone comes and whacks you in the ankle with a nine iron be like that's not how you fucking fix it. Boom, boom, boom, that's how you fix it. Or if someone's raking the bunker wrong, you just take a putter to the ankle and be like that's not how you do it boom, this how you do it.
Speaker 2:Joe's checked out. He's got dollar sign in his eyelids. He's.
Speaker 4:He's checked out no, I'm not checked out. I'm right here too funny.
Speaker 2:All right, joe, bring this home. It's been we. We went long just for eric. We're almost at an hour and a half.
Speaker 4:It's late yo shout out, mr A-A-A-A-A-A, eric, we didn't even talk about this Rory and his wife reconciled seems real.
Speaker 2:Sus right there bro yeah, well, I think we're just hanging too much into his personal life that's all she did. This she went. Did you forget I signed a prenup or I didn't sign the prenup?
Speaker 4:that might be what it was half half that's just. That's just shit.
Speaker 3:If tiger's x got 300 million, she would probably get at least 100 if not more.
Speaker 2:Lawyers are creative man.
Speaker 4:Alright, alright, joe, bring it home you tired, dad's tired, guys, I'm tired. I did my walk this morning when it was 75, not 105, so hey guys, thanks for tuning in this fucking week of the Jason Daylight Podcast.
Speaker 2:Adam always joins us when we're leaving fucking Adam Simpson.
Speaker 4:Go get your CPAs and your taxes, right bro? No, I'm kidding. Hey, shout out everybody. Tune in Jason Day other podcast. We're here for you every single week this week always interrupting always breaking your blood.
Speaker 1:I love doing it too here I'll mute my hey, hey, fuck it.
Speaker 4:Hey, thanks for listening, guys, peace that was weak.
Speaker 2:You can't you interrupt there, bro. I put it on mute, hey guys.
Speaker 4:Okay, turn it off. Yo dad sucks. He always interrupts me, he lives in the fucking high tower and whatever canyon that's called hey, enjoy your enjoy your US Open. Man, we're at Pinehurst this week. It's going to take a lot of skill, a lot of scrambling, and the winner is going to be decided and they're going to reap the rewards.
Speaker 2:Now you know why I interrupt so much.
Speaker 4:It's all fucking true. It's all true, bro. It's all true, hey, hey. Next week we'll talk about the winner. They deserved it me and trey going to cali on uh, monday, tuesday. Happy Father's Day, everybody.
Speaker 3:If you're a father, happy Father's Day to the three of you Me and Dan are like alright, fuck it.
Speaker 4:Well, you are our son, so you can send us gifts Shit Until next week. Hey, shout out my brother. He's a new dad, baby born. I'm now an Uncle Joe. Shout out all the Uncle Joes around the world Until next week. Hey, shout out my brother. He's a new dad, baby born. I'm now an Uncle Joe. Shout out all the Uncle Joes around the world Until next week. We'll catch you later. Enjoy Biners. Thank you.