Life to the Max Podcast
"From Breakup to Breakthrough" Ft Leeuhm
*Disclaimer: Max is extremely baked throughout this episode.*
Nonetheless, this episode serves up an unfiltered look into the soul-stirring process of turning personal turmoil into powerful art. With our guest "Leeuhm" by our side, we go on a rollercoaster ride through the twists and turns of crafting his first album "I Time Bomb" born from the ashes of a breakup. We're peeling back layers of artistic pursuit, from chasing a distinct sound, to grappling with the world's challenges for musicians. Don't miss how we get into some of those hilarious life lessons learned the hard way (think strip clubs and life choices)!
Strap in and get ready for a heart-to-heart on the realities of seeking validation and the sweetness of gratitude in the world of podcasting, music, and art. We discuss our own skirmishes with self-doubt and hurdling over mental obstacles. We dive into the hard-hitting truths about creating content that resonates, sharing some touching anecdotes where validation came from the most unexpected places. We honor the bedrock of support from our fans, subscribers, and friends who've been with us in our journey.
We're wrapping up with a reminder to grab life with both hands and a special shoutout to Liam, alias L-E-E-U-H-M, for sharing his infectious energy and gratitude for the wild ride this life offers. As Liam's track "If You See Me Out" hits your ears, let it be the soundtrack to your next leap into the unknown. Because here at Life to the Max, we're not just about talking the talk; we're about walking the walk, right alongside you. So hit that subscribe button, join the tribe, and let's keep chasing life with all the passion we've got!
*Disclaimer: Max is extremely baked throughout this episode.*
Nonetheless, this episode serves up an unfiltered look into the soul-stirring process of turning personal turmoil into powerful art. With our guest "Leeuhm" by our side, we go on a rollercoaster ride through the twists and turns of crafting his first album "I Time Bomb" born from the ashes of a breakup. We're peeling back layers of artistic pursuit, from chasing a distinct sound, to grappling with the world's challenges for musicians. Don't miss how we get into some of those hilarious life lessons learned the hard way (think strip clubs and life choices)!
Strap in and get ready for a heart-to-heart on the realities of seeking validation and the sweetness of gratitude in the world of podcasting, music, and art. We discuss our own skirmishes with self-doubt and hurdling over mental obstacles. We dive into the hard-hitting truths about creating content that resonates, sharing some touching anecdotes where validation came from the most unexpected places. We honor the bedrock of support from our fans, subscribers, and friends who've been with us in our journey.
We're wrapping up with a reminder to grab life with both hands and a special shoutout to Liam, alias L-E-E-U-H-M, for sharing his infectious energy and gratitude for the wild ride this life offers. As Liam's track "If You See Me Out" hits your ears, let it be the soundtrack to your next leap into the unknown. Because here at Life to the Max, we're not just about talking the talk; we're about walking the walk, right alongside you. So hit that subscribe button, join the tribe, and let's keep chasing life with all the passion we've got!
What's up, man? I'm Liam. You're watching life to the max podcast, the best show on television.
Speaker 3:We can't pay, let him pay. That's what we do. So it's fucked you. If you in a true In the cut, we don't give to shit and we don't give a fuck what we do and shit the proof we live in life to the max. To the max. To the max, I'll be smoking shit.
Speaker 2:It's a drag To the max, just like my podcast. Hey, what's up? My father again. How parallel are you, fuck. And I gotta tell you something Please subscribe, like and comment to Life to the Max podcast. We love to hear your input. You guys are amazing. I love you all. Thank you for all my fans. Thank you for all my supporters. Fuck, yeah, it's gonna be a great year. Can you grab that block?
Speaker 1:so.
Speaker 2:I can take a hit.
Speaker 4:I like slouching shit, so I need to make sure I'm like I just know that when you're talking to the mic there's a sweet spot, but if you go an inch away from the mic you shit can drink. I start getting quiet like that.
Speaker 1:Oh, so I gotta stay lean. Yeah, there it is, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:It's really easy for me to stay in place. Yeah, you got it made, man. I can stay in place and be good. I can't go out of here because you still hear me. I can't go out of here. It's like God given me a restriction. He's like no, you're gonna stay in place during the podcast.
Speaker 1:You're gonna fucking podcast. You hear me?
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's like you are going to stay on the fucking microphone. Can you imagine if you go to like heaven and like either it's like this cloud door, you open it and like God is just sitting there on a cloud desk, like, just just like, looking at you like this, just like do you know how many times you said my son's name in vain?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, you walk in like you're, like, you're like an employee.
Speaker 2:Do you think you're getting the good heaven, so I'll put your ass purgatory? You better explain yourself. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you got to work your way to fucking purgatory. It's like, dude, you already gave me fucking the cards where I end up in a fucking chair.
Speaker 2:You can make me work for heaven, dude, but there's no stairway to heaven, right? So hopefully there's a whole way to heaven.
Speaker 1:Exactly, dude. Yeah, there's no stairway to heaven, I mean, I guess there is a stairway to heaven.
Speaker 2:I'm fucking stupid. There's no elevators to heaven. You don't hear that? Maybe I'll elevate myself to heaven.
Speaker 1:Dude. If you keep smoking those buns, dude, you might elevate yourself to heaven, hey yo hey, yo hey yo.
Speaker 4:welcome back to another episode of Life, to the Max. We got Liam sitting at the table with us. He brought the high noons, salud gracias. And Max is over there chiefin away. Max makes some noise.
Speaker 2:What oh?
Speaker 1:no Dude, at some point you're gonna have to get that out of his mouth right now.
Speaker 4:I will, I will, I will, and I'll get the blunt out of Max's mouth and when he feels that, and Max will spit the intro and right after the intro we'll get into Liam's interview. Yeah, uh oh, he gonna keep it in. Yeah, fuck that shit.
Speaker 2:They're all head for a neck down breathing through a machine. That doesn't stop me from falling my dreams and doing what I love to do. I don't have any shoes. No, you should do it.
Speaker 4:Oh shit, that was the wrong intro Max has ever done.
Speaker 1:I'm sick dude and I'm here for it. What the fuck. He's like what the fuck he's like. Go fucking take it. The intro's over, Dude. This guy's been smoking almost since I've got here. I don't believe it. He's severely underestimated your tenacity, dude.
Speaker 2:You have to live life To the max To the max On the edge though. You know what I mean. When I got out of the hospital, I would go to strip clubs without even grabbing the stuff I need to save my life, like a bag. To keep me in the bag, I would go into the strip club and have girls all over my face.
Speaker 1:Since you've been in a chair.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I would just go to strip clubs and I would have like two girls like riding my face, because I could only feel my face, and then I would so the sensation still there. And I would see just fucking go all at it with me and then like bounce on my face. I know exactly what you mean I said, if I start doing this, which means I can't breathe? I'd start doing this. Go get my brother Like like. You know what I mean. It's in a few times they went a little hard.
Speaker 1:You needed a safe wear.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dude, cause it makes it like I stopped breathing. Yeah, if I started doing that if my brother would start running in and he would like fix it and the girl would be like is he okay? And then he's like yeah, how many? Like you still have 45 minutes left. He's like yeah, he's like already he's good, you can go back.
Speaker 1:So did you say something like hey, go as hard as you want, please, but if I make that clicking sound, you pick it up because it's like damn, they must have been going.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and he was fucked. I almost died with a girl on my face because I got her to come over and you know we were getting it on and I was listening to 21 minutes for more by Lucy. It's a little too late. It was loud as shit. Right, it was loud as shit. And I said just go as hard as you can. You know, I told my nurse do not come in at all unless there's a problem, unless there's serious. Do you have like?
Speaker 1:a button to buzz or something.
Speaker 2:No dude.
Speaker 1:I can't, I can't move.
Speaker 2:So I got this girl and she's having a orgasm on my fucking face.
Speaker 1:But if you're making that noise, it sounds like the nurse has to like listen at the door anyway.
Speaker 2:No, dude yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean, that's not a loud sound.
Speaker 2:It's like a dog coming through. It's great. But, anyways, like I got this girl on my face and I can't make that sound because there's like a suction.
Speaker 1:You know, I mean you're in the so I better oh my God. So she yelped.
Speaker 2:I better get her off. That's my friend. Like a man saved my life, child Luke, right over my friend, do you?
Speaker 1:talk about seeing God at the cloud desk. Imagine that he knows how you got there. Dude, what the fuck you got this big break, you're still alive. You're in the chair. You can smothered in some titties or whatever, whatever.
Speaker 2:Whatever you smothered in, I literally almost died in the pussy. I was so close.
Speaker 1:That's when they call getting lost in the sauce.
Speaker 2:I was like I could see the clouds.
Speaker 1:That's when you bet. See the clouds.
Speaker 2:That's when you have your God's face.
Speaker 1:He's just like would it be disappointment, or would he be like proud Probably.
Speaker 2:After reading the Bible, I don't think you'd be proud. No, how?
Speaker 4:do you think the woman would feel if Max actually died?
Speaker 1:That's like a whole other like I can't imagine the guilt oral from.
Speaker 4:Like her, receiving oral fixation from any man will never be the same.
Speaker 1:Heaven, ptsd flashback. She's like stop, stop, that's crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Dude, what a story to open. Thanks for having me on Shit.
Speaker 2:I forgot we were even live. She was open. She got to open with her mom. Yeah, Just if you want to stay out of the video, just move your hand close.
Speaker 4:And you said you did not want to be on camera, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, we have it.
Speaker 4:Are you making Max beg for his cannabis?
Speaker 2:Dude, what are you doing? You're just looking at my mouth there he is.
Speaker 1:Have you ever done that for him before?
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's experienced.
Speaker 2:I just started with the proper grip.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I struggled with it. That was my first time.
Speaker 4:You're looking at our most experienced.
Speaker 2:When we went to the strip club, it was fucking awesome. They were pretty cool. Nice stage, nice woman. It was just really good.
Speaker 1:I've only been to strip club one time. I don't like it, dude. That shit sucked. What a waste of money. It was in Vegas too, like the best place you could you just have to waste money.
Speaker 3:I'm not even kidding.
Speaker 1:I'm not even kidding and I'm just going to be dirty. I'm sorry You're just grabbing me by my dick to the ATM, to the ATM. I'm like geez, dude, I've never felt like less love in my life, fucking straight just like I'm just an item. They make you feel like I was young, so they pretend they love you and stuff. They're like oh yeah, she loves me, she loves me, she doesn't love me. Man, I learned a hard way, but maybe yours loved you because you fucking showed up to your house Fuck.
Speaker 2:I wish mine. Would you just have to have money.
Speaker 1:Well, that's my fucking first problem. I guess my first problem is I don't have any money. Last time I went to the strip club. Max's you got helpers and shit.
Speaker 4:Max is looking for a girl and Chris, over here, max's nurse is just having a conversation with one of the half-naked dancers. She's like, yeah, I went to school for X-ray technician, but I make no money right here, but yeah man, I'm so glad to be here.
Speaker 1:What an inch. Or like, wow, dude, what an inch. Or do a podcast. You guys, you guys, you guys really do got the best show on television.
Speaker 2:This is the best.
Speaker 1:Well, we're not on television. I know, that's just how I like to say it. I just like to say it.
Speaker 2:How old are you, bro? The fuck, it is like a 16.
Speaker 1:It's definitely an old-timey phrase. I just like. I just think it sounds cool. Like that, you guys are the best on TV. Fuck YouTube's.
Speaker 2:TV nowadays? Fuck it. You don't know how my day was back in the day.
Speaker 4:You don't know what it's like adjusting them. Antennas on top of the box, oh man.
Speaker 2:Oh man, who are you man Like who?
Speaker 1:are you? He gets high.
Speaker 3:He gets high, he's like all right, who are you?
Speaker 4:Are you mocking him? You think he's flailing his arm like that? Oh fuck, You're disrespectful.
Speaker 2:He's so good with his words, like I felt this even though he doesn't have Good, sorry, dude, I don't mean to fucking rub it. Yeah, it's real. Come on, dude, like perhaps it's glass.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a digmiz, that's a total digmiz. Sit there stout. I'm like yeah, so I'm the William.
Speaker 2:He's like sit there, stout.
Speaker 4:All right, I'll be stout. He's like Max you do this.
Speaker 1:I'm like fuck it, pass me a drink dude. No but, so who am I? That's a question. I'm like, I'm crazy. It's like where do I start with that? My name's Liam oh man, that's my real name and my like artist name and stuff. But Liam.
Speaker 2:Yeah, liam, I thought that was a lippy or whatever. No, it was a blippy.
Speaker 1:A friend of mine said that I look like blippy on the way here because my fucking hat if you guys know who blippy is.
Speaker 2:Is she a friend or a friend?
Speaker 1:She's just a friend.
Speaker 4:Well, we'll cut a picture of blippy in three, two, one.
Speaker 2:One, two, three.
Speaker 1:But yeah, dude, um, yeah. And then my artist name is also Liam, because when I was younger I was like I don't fucking, I don't know what else I want to be referred to as other than just my name.
Speaker 2:I can't think of anything. So your artist, tell me the paintings you make where I like. How good are the the paintings?
Speaker 1:Actually my mom does paintings.
Speaker 2:So let me hear the masterpieces you make. Are you like the Picasso?
Speaker 1:Fuck yeah, dude, I'm Picasso of sound and Elgin Elinor? No, I don't. I no, I make music. Does this sound like pretentious if I say artist, no man.
Speaker 2:That's why, I meant like a music artist you just make. I feel like I feel like artists is like making something beautiful, like a painting.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, music can be fucking beautiful, come on.
Speaker 2:I mean, that's where it's introduced me. There it's introduced me. I didn't know music could be like beautiful. Well, I know music could be beautiful.
Speaker 1:You didn't like. How do you say it? Digest it that way.
Speaker 2:I didn't know, like I didn't know. It's like painting for people. Do you know what I mean? It's kind of like a hobby.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, it's actually. It's funny, like because I just recently started making my own music for my like, for myself, like production wise and stuff in like last year. So like when it's it is crazy to think about, like you go from, like you're staring at nothing on the laptop and shit, and then they just all of a sudden like it's just like a swell of music, like sound, it's just, it's just so bizarre to think about?
Speaker 4:What about? What? About when you, when you hear that beat, you get to writing and you dig at a certain emotion. You know, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Eric showed me it with like freestyling yeah, we used to always freestyle after the podcast with our friends Dude.
Speaker 4:The intro to this show was a freestyle. Yeah, yeah, I like that.
Speaker 2:You know, I just started a real free machine, but that doesn't stop me following my dreams.
Speaker 4:No, not that, not that, the to the max. Oh yeah, that's the fucking freestyle. Sometimes, bro, you dig deep in that certain emotion and you make the song and, like you, damn near cry while you're making the mother fucking song.
Speaker 1:Like have you ever had just raw emotion behind the creation of a track 100% and I really hope, like after this and stuff, you guys are able to check out my album, because it just started out. Dude, dude.
Speaker 2:I time bomb Time bomb.
Speaker 1:It's called that. It's on every fucking thing, whatever whatever you listen to, it's on there L-e-e-u-h-m. It's spelled like a caveman.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was fucking around.
Speaker 1:But yeah, it's like my whole album okay. So I went through like a breakup and shit, so I made like a breakup out nice I didn't necessarily mean to. It was like I was like falling in love and shit for the first time in like 2020, you know. So I like made, I was just making the songs as I go, like being in love shit.
Speaker 4:And all of a sudden he looked at. All of a sudden he looked at his collection and he was like damn, it's all about her.
Speaker 1:And like later on. Later on I was like I was like man, like I almost have a full album. I was like I don't know how I'm gonna end this shit. And then we broke up. I was like I think I got the fucking ending, dude. So I dropped an album called I time bomb. It's available everywhere, is my first ever album, first time ever really put my music out there like that.
Speaker 1:Like I've had singles and shit, but I never, really, you know, did that. And then, you know, just going through this kind of pushed me. You know it brings you to a fucking low point where you're like, alright, what do I want to do for myself? Like what I want to do with myself? Because then, like, you go through like the loneliness and shit of a breakup and then you just find yourself trying to, you know, like re kind of build yourself because I kind of lost sight of who I was, and some of the songs touch on that, if you guys check it out.
Speaker 1:But, like what you were saying about like getting emotional and shit definitely cried making some of the songs track 12 on there. It's like it's a lot. Like I said, it's a very like pop Centered album because I was focusing on like pop structure, like how to write. I wanted to make my music more interesting to me, like I felt like my rap voice just alone wasn't that good and I will say, I will say, from what I've heard so far, you do have like a commercial type of vibe.
Speaker 1:Really. Yeah, I don't mean pop like let me get on the radio, Like it's definitely I could hear you in like the background of like song, like movies, yeah, like cool.
Speaker 4:I mean, I appreciate movies cool.
Speaker 1:Like whether it's my influence or not, it's always cool to hear what people you know, what they take from it, or like how they interpreted. I mean, that's what it's all about, mm-hmm, and I just think it's so cool because I got all here stuff. I'm like damn, that's not even one of my like influences, but I think it's cool. You're like slim Jesus.
Speaker 4:Fucking smoke, give me these fucking high noons. Yeah, so how long? How long has your album been up?
Speaker 1:It's been out since October, October 3rd.
Speaker 4:How do you feel about its results since its release?
Speaker 1:I'd never really put my stuff out there like hardcore and like passionately. Like I put stuff out but like was like kind of not dismissive but passive, I guess of just like whatever it's there. But like I was really like trying to like like hey, this is my first album, please check it out. Like it means a lot to me. I worked really really really hard on it by myself and like it. All the songs are. I mean it's the whole thing is like thematic, it's chronological, whatever it's like it tells a story. The reason I do it like that is because a lot of artists that inspire me do their work like that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, bro, it's a project.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it's like I value like the cohesiveness of like bodies of work and stuff. So October 3rd has been out. I was really like just really pleased with like how many people checked it out and just reached out and like told me what they like about it and I think my clear like passion toward it got people more interested. Because I think when you believe in what you did or you know, I just think when you are passionate about people take notice and like shit, let me see what he's got going on. I mean, people know me. They barely know me as like an artist and stuff, and I think listening to that album kind of puts like myself in a new light for people who already know me, because I don't really take myself too seriously, I guess, but like with the art you know, I definitely I'm definitely just like it's a way for me to like get my shit out, like genuinely like my honest shit and like shit that hurts me.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, and like it makes you like work through shit like properly. Yeah, it like forces you to so.
Speaker 2:I was like it's the best hobby in the world to like therapy? Yeah, for sure it really is. This is really good. Okay, it really is. But do you guys like rappers in general, artists? I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:No, it's fine yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean like cause, like I think of, like music, always with guitar or something that's not that you know, like rapping, like I noticed a shit ton of people doing it for, like you know the therapeutic reasons, yeah, and I was just wondering do you guys look for the validation? Like, if you're not validated, do you say, oh, I fucked up, this is horrible, because I feel like that's a trend. If you do fuck up, it's horrible.
Speaker 1:No, definitely. I mean. I know people. I think, the, the. I think if you're not putting something out that you're proud of already and that you feel confident in like, you probably shouldn't Like if you're, if, if the only way that you're going to feel good about what you did is if other people say it's good, well then it's just like shit. Like I can articulate to people why I think it's good. Now, like I'm getting to that age where I'm starting. I've been working on trying to like explain myself better and shit. I'm 25. 25, 27. 27. Nice yeah.
Speaker 4:We started this episode off talking about, like writing things out of emotion.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:And like you already place a sentimental value in the making of that song, you know so when that song turns into a whole project and you're ready to show the world like I'm fucking proud of this, I fucking love this shit, I can't wait to see who else loves this shit, like looking for the validation is out the window. You know, you're just looking for the people that actually love it just as much as you do.
Speaker 1:I think, more than validation I'm looking for like acceptance and kind of understanding, like I really want to feel understood. But I also kind of want to be like respected as an artist, because I know, I mean, I have been doing it for like seven years, even though I've been doing it like kind of behind the scenes, like I know what I'm doing and I want people to know that, and do you?
Speaker 2:think it's not like a whole other level, rather than a person like painting a picture and go into a place and say, and they say, okay, this painting is crap. Do you think it's like more like intense? Doing my album specifically no, just people who want to rap and put something out to the world, whether they blow up or they're just doing it for therapeutic reasons Do you think it's way more intense than joining an art show with your painting?
Speaker 1:I think I think maybe a little bit, but maybe I'm biased, but I think any art in general, like that's expressive and honest, is very vulnerable, like and I think that you know anything that people do is like. I think it's like worthy of like respect just putting yourself out there Honestly.
Speaker 1:But I will say, like you know, you're putting your voice and like your feelings into words, which is probably the easiest way to like express art for people to understand art. You know like they could look at a painting and be like interpreted. But like you know, you're saying what the fuck you're going through and stuff like I think I think people, I think that's the easiest way for people to understand. So you know you're really like you can't really hide behind stuff when you're like saying how you feel and shit like that and just like and it's your voice and you're like singing and rapping and shit Like. There's a lot of that factors in like do you sound? Do you sound good to people? Do you sing? Well, like, are you getting your point of? I don't know.
Speaker 3:Like I think, I think maybe it's a little more intense, tell me, do you think?
Speaker 2:do you think everybody's trying to blow up or they're just putting a? You know? Like, like, do you know what I mean? Like a more intense way, I feel like rap is like the Gen Z of art.
Speaker 1:That's a funny Zen. No, for real. No, but why do you think that?
Speaker 2:Because I, like you, know people. You don't see people drawing like in the 80s, you know, I mean or painting like these beautiful, beautiful paintings.
Speaker 1:But not just rap, right, like you said, like music in general, yeah, I feel like music is the painting for the new generation it is. I think so, yeah it's like we were saying like I'll get in the studio and I'm by myself and then it's like there's no sound around me, but all of a sudden there's this whole thing. That feels like what I went through and that was like the most important part of me, like learning to produce for myself was like I wanted to everything to feel like me.
Speaker 1:It was like I didn't like after a while like I had worked on a mixtape by myself before that where I'm just finding beats on YouTube and shit and I can't put that anywhere because I don't own the music. I just put it on like SoundCloud and I'm like this is cool and I'm like expressing myself, but it doesn't feel like I'm a hundred percent in it and that's just really what I wanted and I think yeah, I think it really is. I feel like what? Gen Z, I don't know man, I'm a high school.
Speaker 2:I had that one.
Speaker 1:That was good though I was doing it, it's very vulnerable. I'm actually doing my first ever open mic tomorrow, first ever when? At In Elburn, deandre's hosting it.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:What time does it start? It's from six to 10. I really hope I don't fuck up, dude. I've been, I've been like rehearsing and shit Is that crazy.
Speaker 4:Max, let's pull up. Let's make a vlog out of it.
Speaker 1:Dude, if you guys pull up, man, I'll bring more high noon. I don't even know if I have. I can give you a kiss, man. I don't know you can feel a kiss, I know that.
Speaker 4:Round his forehead. His forehead is like six inches thick, so you could like you could actually fist bump his forehead Hardest, fuck, just punches.
Speaker 1:I'll give you a knock on the knock.
Speaker 3:It's really cool.
Speaker 2:I just like feel like people want the validation. That's that's. But that's just me, because I'm not passionate For sure, rap, you know I mean you make a good point.
Speaker 1:Like, like, sorry I'm meaning to cut you off, but some people are doing it just for like validation, I'm sure like it's so saturated at this point. Yeah, Like, like every one, like every fourth person you meet is making music and obviously not everyone is doing it for what I think is the right reason.
Speaker 2:But you know, some people are doing it for a different reason I feel like we grew up with, like you know, rappers. You know, these guys are really releasing stuff on radio, you know, and it just got so. It got so like over covered. You know what I mean, over saturated.
Speaker 1:Yeah, over saturated Like just a bunch of artists.
Speaker 2:Remember, it was just Jay-Z, it was fucking Nas, it was all those people, right.
Speaker 1:You had your big dogs.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like, and now everyone can do it because of how technology is.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:That's a good point, how easier it is.
Speaker 3:Uh-huh.
Speaker 2:So I feel like, yeah, it's like an art. Now, Now that I'm thinking about it, I feel like it's like it's literally like painting, but it's you need the validation as well, because if you don't get validated, you feel like you put out trash.
Speaker 1:Well, look, it's definitely important, like to hear that people like your shit. I don't want to say like, oh, it only matters if you like you know, if nobody is saying like hey, this resonated with me, or like this sounds good, like maybe you need to reevaluate what you're doing. You know what I mean. But like, definitely, I mean definitely, it is somewhat important, it is somewhat important and obviously I'm human, I look for it too, like because I'm sending the link out to them. Like, hey, tell me what you think. Like I do want to know what people, but I also just want people to hear it and just know what I got going on, like is there any specific feedback that you got from anyone that really resonated with you?
Speaker 1:Yeah like one that resonated with me a lot was this kid that I haven't seen in a long, long time, that that you know, I haven't probably seen him since like high school or something once and I wasn't friends with him in high school or anything. He reached out to me and he's like man because I posted it everywhere and luckily I posted it to Twitter as well. This is the only place I have this, any contact with this person, and he was like man. I would be like like I just wanted to reach out and tell you that this is one of the best albums I've heard all year and I was like damn dude this is okay.
Speaker 1:And he's like I just didn't want to like listen to it and really like it and not like pay my respects because, like, I've genuinely been listening to this and like, holy shit, this is crazy. I guess his name is Kyle, so I appreciate that. Kyle no, but really that is one that I always I'm like Dan dude, that's. It's cool because, like we know each other and a lot of people I know they're like you know it's really good. Like I have a close friend is like I just can't get into it because it's you.
Speaker 4:And he's like because I've known you forever Like dude, that sucks, that fucking sucks.
Speaker 1:That's crazy how that works, yeah, and he's just like, just because it's you, because we've just been good buddies. But you know, to have someone who's like, knows of me, but maybe not too well, and he's just like man like, this is really good.
Speaker 1:And like because it feels like I'm being respected. You know what I mean. And again, that's what I want. Like I knew I knew I feel what I'm capable of, and to like have it resonate the right way with with people has been really cool. Like I got a lot more support than I thought. Like people text in DMing, all that shit.
Speaker 2:And like supporting it. It's really cool. Yeah, what about the hard rap? You know you like going like hard, like saying like you got bitches, you got money.
Speaker 1:Kind of like the rap. Do I do that?
Speaker 2:earlier. No, I'm saying like, what about people like that? Do you think they're looking for validation or do you think it's arts?
Speaker 1:You know, I mean everyone has different lifestyles Like if they're really going through that, maybe they just want to say how they feel. But you know, you know, I bet that certain, the certain stuff that sells the way.
Speaker 2:I mean like the bad way. I'm not saying because you said you wrote a breakup like basically yeah. I'm talking about people that are like going hard, saying they have money, they have pitches, you know all that stuff? Do you think those people are looking for validation or do you think they just want to put it out like well.
Speaker 1:I think. I mean, I think it's a little bit of both, you know, I think you know some, some of those artists don't get money, maybe, and don't get it just maybe. Yeah, some of them are dreaming, I'm sure, because, like I said, it's so oversaturated, but I do. You know some people, it's their art and I don't know some some. Some people just want to validate it, it makes sense.
Speaker 2:It's kind of like when you're painting something you're like picturing, you're there, dude you are.
Speaker 1:You are probably definitely high.
Speaker 4:No, I definitely feel what you're saying.
Speaker 1:I just fucking like this.
Speaker 2:I like this. I really haven't. I haven't, like I we've had so many rappers on the show, yeah, and I've never understood it, you know right now I like I said I'm like half in, half out on rapper, like I've.
Speaker 1:that's why I just said artist, because I mean I don't want to say I'm a rapper, because then that's just not how, that's just not reflective of how I'm trying because, like Max said, 90% of these motherfuckers are rapping about big booty bitches smoking weed and shooting out their window.
Speaker 4:You know what I'm saying? And when you call yourself a rapper, then everyone automatically assumes that you're just another rapper that and and it's.
Speaker 1:It would be like dismissive to my art, like that's not all I did on my album, that's not all I'm doing now I see all these guitars and say I'm learning guitar, like I've been learning guitar the last few months.
Speaker 2:That's how I am. I started playing guitar like 14. And I was freaking doing stairway to heaven solo on 17. Like it was nothing. Do you know what I mean? Like, that's why, that's why I'm trying to resonate with. Like rapping, is it the same thing as strumming a guitar?
Speaker 1:No, it's definitely not the same. I don't know Like I'm just I've been teaching myself.
Speaker 2:I'm talking about the same feeling serotonin. Is it the same feeling as strumming a guitar?
Speaker 1:My favorite, my favorite thing personally is songwriting and thing. Like I just love being able to get myself out there, like really just being, like taking what you're going through and just making it catchy or just making it, making it accessible to people and just to be heard and shit, and like making it sound cool, like like talk about crying and shit, like I talk about that on my album, but I like the song, you know, like I think it sounds cool but like I don't know.
Speaker 1:It is a different thing, like I've been teaching myself drums, keyboard bass.
Speaker 4:bass I learned before guitar bass helped me learn guitar for sure there's magic behind music. So whatever rush you're talking about from strumming that guitar Fuck yeah, I agree. Yeah that you feel that same type of rush in a different way, in your own way, bro. You're feeling your own magic, definitely. You know what I'm saying there's things that you can't explain to someone that isn't an artist. Only artists understand the fucking, the high that you get from being an artist and the frustration that, the self-doubt that you get from being an artist. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4:That's just it's a give and take war battle in our minds that we fucking love and we can't let it go it is.
Speaker 1:And I mean I'm always trying to push past like I don't know, like what, or just knocking down barriers for myself, like thinking that you're incapable of something, like I was, like I probably wouldn't be good at an open mic, but I'm like dude, I got to get out there and perform at some point. What the fuck? You know, I got five years till I'm 30. Really, like see how good I can get at that shit. Like what's that? Like I don't know, I'll find out tomorrow.
Speaker 2:I feel like I have to quit, honestly.
Speaker 1:Why are you feeling?
Speaker 2:it for good, dude, because there's so many podcasts. There's so many podcasts out there, everyone has podcasts, every comedian, every like you know. There's so many podcasts.
Speaker 1:But I didn't live in life to the max.
Speaker 2:I mean we have a podcast we're trying to blow up, obviously.
Speaker 4:Yeah, do you do it for validation, max? Are you doing it for valid? Are you doing it for Max? The fuck, what is validation?
Speaker 2:What is validation Tourses? Are we trying to say, oh, they think we're the shit. Or are we trying to say, oh, we actually hope they actually helped us? Do I mean that type of validation?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think there's different. I don't know.
Speaker 2:I mean it depends on what.
Speaker 1:I guess validation is a tricky word when you get into it like that. Like I think that I think I see you guys. I feel like you guys are doing it for a good reason. First of all, I appreciate you guys even letting me on. Like you guys are not.
Speaker 4:We're doing it for money and big booty patients Like if you were doing it for that you probably wouldn't have a guy like me.
Speaker 2:But, like we love everybody. We want to hear their stories.
Speaker 4:And we love hearing the stories and we love getting the feedback and that's why I asked that question in the beginning, when you said you got the feedback from a friend that you didn't even expect to say that you know that is the best album in the world but he can't get it because he fucking knows you Shout out to Deji Gihua.
Speaker 1:No, that was two different people, though, like I was saying, one person said like I love this album, and then I had another friend who's like I can't even get into it because it's you. So like no, so so that a separate one was like.
Speaker 4:That was like well, still, that's the type of shit that I think is worth more than money.
Speaker 3:For sure, for sure.
Speaker 1:And like, dude, if I was doing this for money, like I've been to debt with how many. Like I've bought beats and shit. Like I've bought equipment, like I've never I've made like $8 off for streams.
Speaker 4:So if we're comparing that feeling to the podcast, like we've had people message Max like, bro, you've changed my fucking outlook on shit so right.
Speaker 1:That's more than money. So that's validating like what was, in a way, because it's like you're what you took, what the fuck you went through, and now you're doing this and you're like changing people's. If it's not changing people's lives, it's changing their perspective and their outlook. You know what I mean and like I think, I think that is like such an important thing that I've learned is that you can just like you could do like this.
Speaker 1:I mean, you could change them in a big way or you could just make them like see something just a little bit different. And it's like holy shit, like sometimes people come back and will tell me like this thing, you, this little thing you told me, just changed my whole outlook and I so I always make sure to like give people their flowers in my, in my life Like you don't even know what you did for me. When you just said this, I feel like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't listen. I feel like me and Eric, we're just like we have this idea right. We're like we're going to make this podcast because people need to hear that. You know, really, really, really. You need to be grateful for the little things because I'm paralyzed. Me and Eric had this idea. We're going to make this podcast. We start on a coffee table, right. We start on a coffee table, just microphones messing around. Eric doesn't know what he's doing, I don't know.
Speaker 4:That's how it always starts. I always knew what I was doing. Validate me.
Speaker 2:And Eric finds his sick ass table, you know this one. Yeah, and I was like Eric, let's, let's go, let's go on video, let's, let's do this on YouTube. He's like that, any head up his friend, what's your friends? The guy with cameras.
Speaker 4:I forgot who I hit up. Oh oh, I had up Justin King.
Speaker 2:He had up Justin.
Speaker 4:He's like, get these cameras and they're kind of Shout out to Justin, this motherfucker's big time shooting commercials for HBO and fucking Verizon and working with artists like G Herbo and Kodak Black and all types of shit. Bro, I asked him, like bro, how much for a music video? He sent me an invoice for like 30,000,. Bro, for the team. I'm like I'll see you in the next life, bro. He was good knowing you.
Speaker 2:That was awesome that he has a friend that gave us the. He gave us like the presidents, the presidents or whatever the words to like start.
Speaker 1:He sent us the list like get this camera, get this lens, you know, see and like, those are the people, like you know, shout out to talent, to the wedding photographer that recommended, this light made a huge difference.
Speaker 1:No, no, that's all good. Like I just think, like like paying homage not only to like artists that inspire you, but people that change, like change your life, and like the smallest way just to get you a little bit, just to get you a little like further along, like I just I just realized this year, especially like just how important it is to like pay your respects to people, and it could be just like your mom or like your best buddy or something Like remember you said that, like that made me do this.
Speaker 1:Like this one kid I went to someone's house to like like I wanted to get more in on like the music scene around me because I was like I had never been putting myself out there at all, like at all, because I was so fucking shy and shit.
Speaker 1:And then, like I went to his house and his buddies are there and they're like jamming, they're like a band and shit, and they're jamming and I was and and like he like let me put out like I've always wanted to learn guitar and bass is like I'm like I just don't know. You know whatever normal excuse that everyone has why they don't if they want to. But like he's like here and he like lets me play. He's like here, play this, do this. And I'm like fucking up and shit. But he's like teaching me something. And someone said something to me and he's like no, no, let him just keep doing this because him like being successful in this little like riff is going to make him want to go and get a bass. And then, motherfucker was right, because I went and bought a bass off my coworker like the next week, and I've been learning bass ever since.
Speaker 3:And.
Speaker 1:I saw him. Sorry, I don't mean to, but I saw him at a gig Like I went to like some punk show which I heard you said you like punk.
Speaker 2:Before the show I look at like a punk.
Speaker 3:But every day fucking.
Speaker 1:I saw him and I just paid him that respect. I was like you don't even know, like I've been playing bass ever since I last saw you and this is my second time in my life seeing him. I was like I just need you to know that and it was birthday. Shout out, brandon.
Speaker 4:I bet he loved that shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I hope so I mean. I always love when people like you can only hope that you could like impact people.
Speaker 2:It's really the little.
Speaker 4:Thing.
Speaker 2:You drive me easy. You know I'm a straight up confident. Easily I only.
Speaker 1:I mind you Someone from? Isn't he from NWA yeah?
Speaker 2:no, the first thing he says, rolling down the street in my six foot and like that was it. I mean that was it. That's when the big rap start coming out. All you had to say was that I'm freaking, everyone else started it. Now it's so accessible to get a studio or to go to the studio. Everyone else wants to make these paintings, which are actually songs that they want to hear. In just people's minds. That's very nice Resonation.
Speaker 4:Appreciate the little things. Let me spit this out, bro. Let me spit this out. Earlier I was going to give Deji G was some flowers because we were talking about feedback on our albums and he told me, like Deji's close a close friend of mine.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and he's like bro when you're going to make another album, bro. I've been listening to your album on repeat. That shit got me out of a slum. I was depressed and I was listening to your shit on repeat and that shit brought me back up. Eric Right and I'm thinking he's just saying that because you know he's my homie, right but he showed me the receipts, max, and that motherfucker was the top played album on his profile. Bro. That's amazing and that shit made me feel good and like other feedback like that, bro. So I've been waiting for this Max. I've been waiting for this Max. So motherfucker gave us an email on life to the max podcast at gmailcom. All right, he said hello, max from Devon. Mayor.
Speaker 4:Bro, I'm currently serving in the US Navy and maybe you're tired of hearing it or not, but I respect you more than any YouTuber I've seen before. I've come across your channel from your Ross Capacione episode on your podcast after returning from our underway recently. I'm well aware that your service in the army is very different from ours, but I could connect with you on the fact that, at the end of the day, we are normal people who signed up to defend our country. I love that. Regardless of your condition, you wish to be treated as a normal person and truly shows strong. Truly shows how strong of a warrior you truly are. I very much look forward to seeing your new uploads when we pull into support and wish y'all the best of luck. Vr a new friend.
Speaker 2:Devon, you're a great seaman.
Speaker 4:Isn't that shit awesome?
Speaker 2:That's what we do it for.
Speaker 1:That's what we do it for. That's what it's all about, man.
Speaker 2:Devon, you're on the field, but I respect all of that.
Speaker 4:Give Devon this flowers. Bro, you got me fired up. All I'm saying is Devon, thank you for your service. All I'm saying is, bro, it might sound cliche a lot of times when you hear YouTubers say, oh, thank you for our subscribers, or every rapper that gets on stage and say I couldn't do it without my fans. Bro, it's some real shit. Bro, Thank you for all our fucking 846 subscribers. Thank you for all fucking 60 plus guests that sat with us at this table and shared their fucking stories, and that includes me.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that includes Liam. You know what I'm saying. Thanks for the high noons, liam. I need that, you know. Take the edge off. Max is pissing me off today. I'm just kidding, but no real shit, bro. Like that's what we do it for, bro. So you want to talk about validation, max?
Speaker 2:That's the validation that we do it for you know what's funny? We have 846 subscribers. Right now we can fucking watch this, probably like three, four years. Now we're going to have 100,000.
Speaker 4:Yeah, fucking, and we're going to appreciate every single one of those motherfuckers.
Speaker 2:I appreciate every single one like Devon, yeah, not for real Since there actually changed your life. You're a hell of a semen. You really are. I appreciate you with the service, bro. Thanks for uh. Thanks for emailing us Like for the next.
Speaker 4:Like the next podcast, gmail, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Sure man, I'm glad, I mean, I hope really, like it is, like it is important to thank those people. Like I don't know, like that's just what I realized. Like I've just been going through a bunch of different shit this year. Like I feel like I hit my lowest point. I guess I won't go into so much deep, obviously, the breakup and just other shit. Like I was, I was basically felt like I was going through stages of grief twice, two stages of grief at the same time. So it just brought me real, real low and to the point like where it genuinely does bring you, to a point where you are just grateful to wake up and I just I tried to say like thank you, god every morning.
Speaker 1:You know just just for waking up and shit and like I don't know.
Speaker 2:Look at me, man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2:I mean, like you know, it's not. If you're music and you can look at me and you can be like damn, I'm grateful.
Speaker 4:I can hear his voice crack. He's like yeah, I know, I know what the fuck he's like for sure.
Speaker 1:I'm day one.
Speaker 2:Fucking head.
Speaker 4:Instead of so grateful I could do this, I can't wake up and hit my doggy if I want.
Speaker 1:Like no, I'm just kidding, no, but really like.
Speaker 2:I don't say something you don't mean, so like.
Speaker 1:I can't do it. I can't do it.
Speaker 2:I love that when people come out, Eric invites them to see me in person. They treat me like a person you know and I love that. They see what I'm going through and how fucking hard it is and they they just like after. They see, probably like you, actually changed my perspective on life, like I used to pitch and won't know about this, but I could be freaking, paralyzed, with neck down, not be in the mood, not be able to feel your dick, not be able to do anything, dude, can I say something?
Speaker 2:Actually, I'm gonna leave and change a new person.
Speaker 1:I saw this guy's clip about saying he wish he could feel sensation in his dick and man, that did make me grateful. It's probably me, I probably fucking beat up right after that dude, I mean, I don't know, but I'm just like dude, but really like it is important to say things like that because people got to appreciate that Dying in that bro, just being able to go outside and breathe Like this isn't yeah, like this, but for me, and like this isn't just another mundane beat Like this is.
Speaker 1:This is what means a lot, dude, I just like I'll always say I love this this is for Max dog.
Speaker 2:Because it all comes back to art, and our art is YouTube Now, youtube podcasting. That's our art, right, and your art is music for sure I feel like podcasting is art.
Speaker 1:It is art. I mean, what other art could you flow seamlessly between talking about whacking off and and then making music? You know, no, no, but maybe it's just therapeutic.
Speaker 4:No, no, you could think about it, Max. Think about it, max. You could make it artistic, because if you strategically plan your questions in a creative way to manipulate your person, your interviewing, that is an art.
Speaker 1:Dude, the first 10 minutes of me being here was fucking art. I've never been through anything like that.
Speaker 3:It was an experience that just fucking moved.
Speaker 2:You're usually it's, it was awesome. What usually it's not like.
Speaker 1:I'm glad that we're like loose enough with me here, where it could be like that.
Speaker 2:No, it's.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't want it any other way.
Speaker 2:I know we didn't really get into when we got into your album. That's the most important thing, yeah we touched on it.
Speaker 4:We think it's like you're about your life.
Speaker 2:You know it's, you got it.
Speaker 4:You got a story you want to share.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean I don't know. Like well, basically the only thing I was like going to touch on life wise was just that breakup and like how, like I mean I did touch on it a little bit, Just like tying it in with the album. She didn't cheat on me, don't start doing allegations, I know she's not. All of a sudden I'm like no, no, no, no, don't clip that, don't clip that Don't clip that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we make a real out of it. We post that shit right before you say no.
Speaker 1:See cheat on you. And then you fucking you get a clip of me going yes, Don't use that one either, Dude.
Speaker 4:Don't fucking use it See because we're actually and then we, then we spend like $500 on promo to make that bitch viral.
Speaker 1:There's nothing else about me, like none of my albums. They're like did you get cheated on yes.
Speaker 4:And then we figure out who your ex is and we tag her.
Speaker 1:I feel like it wouldn't be that hard to win me that.
Speaker 2:Do you think, keith? No, fuck, I'm leaving, leave, leave.
Speaker 4:I feel like you're doing that on purpose.
Speaker 2:No, I wasn't. Honestly, I'm fucked up, I'm fucking gone.
Speaker 4:The last episode, literally did this.
Speaker 2:I feel I feel like an idiot because it's not here for now.
Speaker 4:It's fine, it's fine, it's fine, we're out here.
Speaker 2:I feel like it's not postable.
Speaker 4:Come on bro.
Speaker 1:Dude, it's post. Get it together. Max Dude, don't say that when I'm here you touched on some good shit.
Speaker 2:I don't. I get that. No, I'm talking about my behavior. No, your behavior has been fired.
Speaker 1:I appreciate that man, and a little rambunctious I was not.
Speaker 2:I was not, I just Would you say that breakups either push someone to their fucking ass and they can't do anything about it. Would you say breakups are like like a really good thing for people sometimes.
Speaker 1:No, for me like that's a good question. Because you got. He's like are you because you get you? I didn't get cheated on, I just got to keep practicing that. Every time he says it just engage, no, but I just play, but no, I think it obviously depends on how you handle it. I think I'm proud of the way I handle it for the most part, like it was fucking devastating when it happened and you could easily just turn to the fucking, go in the deep end and get lost and fucking.
Speaker 2:That's what happened to me man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, and it's hard not to. So, like I mean, I just for me, I think it was the most necessary thing that had to happen, because I'm looking now at this year that I've had and I've been able to really start expressing myself more and I feel more in touch with who I really am. Like I feel like I had, like I struggled almost getting in a relationship and shit. Like I struggled with identity issues for a bit. Like I felt like my identity was like attached to this, this relationship, and like I started kind of losing sight of who I was. And now that it's over and like you hit this low and it's literally, and you know, I'm not, I'm not, I haven't been through something. Like I saw you guys had episode of fucking guy got shot three times in the chest or something.
Speaker 3:Sure With a shotgun or something.
Speaker 2:I was like well.
Speaker 1:Well, my story is not going to be that crazy that story.
Speaker 2:That can help people, though. That's the thing.
Speaker 4:Yes, not everyone can resonate with getting shot three times in the fucking chest right Right. But you do have a story that can resonate with everyone. That means you have a great good.
Speaker 1:And I did. I hit this, this low in my life where literally I mean it's, it's that cliche shit always turns out to be true. Is that, like you get so low, the only fucking way is up? And I just had to look within myself and and look at the parts of me that I really want to make known and express myself and just be, just be me. Like I felt like I was finding I truly, truly, for the first time, found myself this this year and I think, like putting out the album, learning guitar, doing this podcast and never done it. I was nervous for as fuck for this. And now look, I got two new buddies and shit.
Speaker 4:Like I've never been able to Chill Max's buddy. I don't know about him. Oh shit, my bad dude, my buddy, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1:We're, we're part, we're work partners, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:You're just fucking associate. I'm just using you for validation, but you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Like I've allowed myself to like new experiences and shit. Like I'm doing an open mic tomorrow. I'm nervous as fuck about that, but you know, if it goes anything like this, I'm going to have a good fucking time and it's like you know I'm just done holding my back myself, back from shit that I really want to do, amen. And you know it's a product of going through this heartbreak and like the worst shit I've ever been through personally.
Speaker 2:So like, and so you said I don't mean to cut you off.
Speaker 1:Nice.
Speaker 2:You said so. You said that you were very, like you know, introvert when it came to your feelings, like you didn't like to talk about your feelings a lot. Maybe people put out albums like that to like show the world, like, hey, I have feelings, you can talk to me. And but it was it's hard for me to say like hey, can we talk about my feelings, do I mean Not?
Speaker 1:for sure I like I just grew up, like my family is like very goofy and shit. Like you guys know my brother I'm sure you know him to be somewhat- I don't know if you know him well enough, but he's definitely a goofy fucking dude and it's like we just use humor.
Speaker 1:A lot is like an island and that's like all people like if you ask people who know you know like closer people who know me, is like I'm just, I don't really take shit serious enough. So being able to be in touch with this side of myself, it's definitely nice. I forget your question but like definitely.
Speaker 2:My question basically was like do you think people who have feelings but are afraid to ask, like for help, do you think when they make it all of them to show the world they have feelings?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean because, yeah, yeah, that's a good question and you don't have to approach them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that's it, that's a that's. I think that's true with. For me, even like I definitely like I'm not really like. Like I said, I have like this, this persona, and it's not like fake, it's who I am, but it's like I'm just kind of goofy and it's, and it's hard to transition from just being like a goofy motherfucker and then like hey, but I am like going through. So like it is a, it is like an amazing, it's the best outlet to be able to be like.
Speaker 1:All right, there's also this side of me because, like I said, I mean even growing up, like I just always don't I always struggled with feeling like understood and I kind of felt like people saw me as sort of like just a class clown or like, or like people go to you just for like a good time or a joke or something. It's like man, being able to show this side of me, and very fucking publicly, is like it's very vulnerable, but it's definitely like it's it's fulfilling because it's like it's it's showing another half of me that you know people wouldn't always get to see otherwise. So, dude, that's a good question, very nice.
Speaker 2:That's a creative question.
Speaker 4:Don't, don't degrade your, your, your artistic question. Yeah, with the cannabis.
Speaker 2:I don't know, man, like that's you honestly, like you're doing a good job and I'm happy Hell yeah, I'm happy, thank you, and for sure it kind of makes sense that, like you like, show your feelings that way you know because a lot of people are introverts and they don't want people to see that they have feelings. They don't want people to talk to you but like, and they listen to podcasts or celebrities instead you know, and hopefully we're a outlet for people, oh yeah, Dude, I mean set the example, Liam.
Speaker 2:And Liam, you said it made you better, right, yeah, this accident sucked right, my car accident.
Speaker 1:Really? No, I'm just kidding, I know I definitely suck.
Speaker 2:Terrible. Yeah, I like that. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:That was how it was over there.
Speaker 2:No it's not, no, definitely it's getting paralyzed sucked man. And I had a lot of years to like learn. It's like learning a whole new life.
Speaker 1:No, I can't even imagine, dude, You're just.
Speaker 2:You're sitting here and you have to make commands to be pulled to ask for things. You know it's the craziest thing, but you have to master it just like you're mastering rapping. You know what I mean. I have to master asking questions you know and I have to master and I keep my feelings to. I really do. I've been through last year as well. I obviously definitely. And I hope, like our podcast, like helps people, because that's what gives me like happiness, you know like yeah seeing that I helped change someone's life, just like you helped change Kyle's life.
Speaker 1:Fuck, yeah, dude, no really. And I mean I'm glad that you like you even feel like I mean, like we talked about validation and stuff, but I the fact that you just want to change people's lives and coming from what you went through is amazing. And like I mean, dude, like you're such a I didn't expect this guy to be. Like I mean you, like you should have had you belong on a fucking podcast, like the whole, you know. I mean like I just see it in you, like it's just been, I've had a great time since I've been here.
Speaker 3:I forgot we even fucking on for for a couple of times.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. Like all right.
Speaker 4:Well, Max is dropping him tears.
Speaker 3:Oh, she's going down on a super positive note yeah for sure, look at your motherfucking camera.
Speaker 1:We can get Zappy in here.
Speaker 4:Say your name, say you live a life to the max. Leave a message if you want, and we're going to conclude this motherfucking up. My name is Liam.
Speaker 1:My artist name is also Liam Spell, like a caveman, l-e-e-u-h-m. You can find me anywhere Spotify, youtube, whatever the Apple music anywhere and I'm living life to the max now and I and I, and now I'm going to live it a little bit more because I met these guys.
Speaker 3:So and I really appreciate.
Speaker 1:I really do appreciate you guys having me on for real Very nice.
Speaker 4:Hey, I'm going to, I'm going to make your the outro to this episode, one of your songs, so pick one. Tell the people what it's called. Oh shit, all right.
Speaker 1:Come on, shit, what, what, what kind of what kind of vibe should I?
Speaker 4:go in Trash or makes diamonds Track 12.
Speaker 1:Track 12? Track 12. Damn, but that's not like a hit though.
Speaker 4:Come on, make up your motherfucking mind, Liam.
Speaker 1:This song is called If you See Me Out, Yo, this been Life to the Max.
Speaker 2:Please like and subscribe to our YouTube channel. Life to the Max podcast.
Speaker 3:And we're out.