Life to the Max Podcast
"Split Second" Part 2 Ft The QuadFather
When life knocks you down, it's not the fall that defines you, but how you choose to get back up. Maximilian Gross, lovingly known as the Quad Father, joins us to share a powerful saga of service, sacrifice, and the unrelenting will to survive. His pre-Army days, and the life-altering accident – each moment is a puzzle piece in the portrait of a man who refuses to be defined by his circumstances. Max's story is a vivid reminder of the fragility of life and how dramatic life can change in a split second.
Hospital beds and lonely nights could've been the end for Max, but they were just the beginning of a different kind of battle. Max pulls back the curtain on his darkest hours, from the shock of awakening paralyzed neck down, to the relentless pursuit of independence. Max's account of his accident and recovery doesn't just tug at heartstrings; it's a resounding battle cry for anyone facing their own uphill climb.
"Life to the Max" isn't just a catchy podcast title; it's a creed by which Max and his faithful friend Eric live. They've turned setbacks into comebacks, embracing the unpredictability of life to forge genuine connections and chase dreams with unyielded vigor. As Max recounts his shift from bootcamp in the army, to the conversational rush of podcasting, you'll be inspired by tales of trust, friendship, and seizing the day. With every episode, Max, Eric, and their diverse lineup of guests prove that no matter the obstacles, life is there for the taking – and living life to the max is a choice we can all make.
When life knocks you down, it's not the fall that defines you, but how you choose to get back up. Maximilian Gross, lovingly known as the Quad Father, joins us to share a powerful saga of service, sacrifice, and the unrelenting will to survive. His pre-Army days, and the life-altering accident – each moment is a puzzle piece in the portrait of a man who refuses to be defined by his circumstances. Max's story is a vivid reminder of the fragility of life and how dramatic life can change in a split second.
Hospital beds and lonely nights could've been the end for Max, but they were just the beginning of a different kind of battle. Max pulls back the curtain on his darkest hours, from the shock of awakening paralyzed neck down, to the relentless pursuit of independence. Max's account of his accident and recovery doesn't just tug at heartstrings; it's a resounding battle cry for anyone facing their own uphill climb.
"Life to the Max" isn't just a catchy podcast title; it's a creed by which Max and his faithful friend Eric live. They've turned setbacks into comebacks, embracing the unpredictability of life to forge genuine connections and chase dreams with unyielded vigor. As Max recounts his shift from bootcamp in the army, to the conversational rush of podcasting, you'll be inspired by tales of trust, friendship, and seizing the day. With every episode, Max, Eric, and their diverse lineup of guests prove that no matter the obstacles, life is there for the taking – and living life to the max is a choice we can all make.
It's what we do and shit to prove we're living life, living life to the max.
Speaker 1:Living life to the max, Just like my dad, I guess what?
Speaker 2:What? Oh my God, we're back and we got Styglystix with us.
Speaker 1:He was here for the first episode. He was here for the first.
Speaker 2:And we got Omar the pro skater. He became a Worldwide. Damn, that's crazy. I just realized Omar's mic is not working. Great start. Oh, my mic is not working, I don't know why. What up, gang. It's Omar Sandoval, back in the Life to the Max podcast. Happy to be here. Yes, sir, everybody, welcome back to another episode of Life to the Max. And this isn't just a regular episode on Life to the Max, this is not a regular interview. This is part two to the quad father, his story, because we got people in the comments like dang, that's crazy. What happened Leo? Dang? That's crazy. What happened to Trey? Dang? That's crazy. What happened to Colonel Smith? Dang, that's crazy what but 60 mother f I can't keep up. I can't keep up. But there's comments. There's people who don't know who the f Max gross is. There's people who don't know who the quad father is. There's people who don't know what happened to him. Why are you in the wheelchair, max?
Speaker 1:Basically, this is split second part two. It's going to be nice to go over because I was in a really dark police turn. Split second part one and now we can put it on YouTube. People can figure out, like, what actually happened to me and I'm excited to talk about it. I'm not excited to talk about it because it sucks talking about it, but I'm excited to tell the people.
Speaker 2:I'm excited to see you tell the people yeah.
Speaker 1:So basically all right guys. So what's my name is Max? No, my name is Max Gross. All right, and I live in South Alligene Illinois, and I lived here my whole life. I was with my family, you know, college and high school, you know, just being stupid and I thought I was too dumb to go to college.
Speaker 2:So I said yeah.
Speaker 1:Marine Corps. I was going to go to the Marine Corps and the guys like okay, you could be a cook. And I'm like I'm not doing that, fuck that. You know what I mean. Like I'm not doing that I want to be a sniper. Like I want to do some really hardcore shit. So I went to the Army and they said you could be a left and bravo. So I was like okay, cool, you know. And I'm at boot camp and I'm like fuck, why did I make this mistake? You know what I mean. Like the second day, everybody looks the same, we're all bald and shit. Yeah, we're all getting fucked up for stupid reasons.
Speaker 3:So nobody can keep their hair.
Speaker 1:No, nobody.
Speaker 3:Even high and tight.
Speaker 1:No, like in boot camp. You're a fucking. No, you're fucked.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it sucks.
Speaker 1:Well, it doesn't suck because it sucked, right. I mean like fucking. Like you had 50 people and they were taking shits all the time and stuff.
Speaker 3:You're all the same room.
Speaker 1:But anyways, I went to 11 Bravo, I was in infantry right and I got stationed at 4 Campbell, kentucky, screaming Eagles, 101st Airborne Division and I was like super stoked and my unit was actually the Band of Brothers unit. If anybody just know, the HBO special Band of Brothers was the first people who actually jumped out of airplanes and went on Airborne in the beaches of Normandy, france. So when I heard I got in the water, chosen to go there, I was like I'm going to make sure, like our ancestors, the people who risked their lives for World War II in the beaches of Normandy, I'm going to make them proud. So I'm going to live up to this unit's name, you know. So I got to the unit, got treated like shit, you know, fucking watering flowers in the pouring rain, like just stupid shit. You know. Like amazing, yeah, totally. But then I like, just like focused on my craft, went to the gym, ran a lot and I started getting really, really good and like people started to notice and then they're like well, we can't make fun of Groves anymore because he's better than like me and everything you know.
Speaker 1:So then I got to try out to scout the scout platoon, which is like scout sniper platoon and then the trial was fucking hard. It was hard as shit. But I like first place, like everything which I was super proud of. Then with the scout platoon, you know that's when, like all the high speed, like cool shit happened, like like doing a, like, you know, blowing up grenades and shit like that. You don't do that in the regular line infantry. You just do a bunch of bullshit. You know, like, when you're like really good platoon, like the scout platoon, then you're doing like like this shit, like jumping out of airplanes and like fucking going to aerosols school, all that stuff. So it was fun and I was climbing the ranks and, yeah, I really enjoyed it. Sometimes I was like this fucking sucks, you know, and. But I had a friend there and his name was Nicholson and we were like best friends and yeah, this is when.
Speaker 1:So I joined the military in 2014. And at the end of the beginning of 2016, right after we did a field exercise, I took Nicholson. Nicholson was talking to a girl back home with me, you know, and he wanted to come up with me. This is the first time I brought someone with me, but I used to drive this fucking eight hour drive like straight. You know what I mean. It's the first time I ever brought someone with me. So I was like super stoked because I was like fuck, I don't have to drive halfway, like you know, and I don't have to drive the whole way, and yeah, like so it was just like a normal day.
Speaker 1:I woke up, I did PT, like physical training in the military I got leave and we left at like 5.30. You know what I mean. And I drove dude, okay. So for all the people who are listening, I remember this so vividly when I was at the gas station filling up right outside gate four of Hunter, first or more division, fill it up for the ride, right? I remember saying you know, do you want to drive first or I'll drive first? And he was like I'll drive first. And I was like okay, and then pause for like two seconds. I was like you know what? Actually I'll drive first. And he was like okay, you know. So I literally could have saved my life right there, but I didn't.
Speaker 3:I drove first.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean, and the reason why I drove first is because, obviously, I want to wake up to my home. So my birthday is March 21st. The accident happened March 24th, right? So I was going to celebrate my birthday with my family, my girlfriend it was just going to be a great time and Zach, my best friend in the military, is finally going to meet this girl that he likes. You know that I introduced him to from my hometown, you know. So it just seemed like super fun time, but I chose to drive first. Fast forward drive first.
Speaker 2:What time is it when you guys started driving back home?
Speaker 3:I said 5.30, right.
Speaker 1:Back home or.
Speaker 3:You guys left the base.
Speaker 1:Like 5.45. So we would have got there like two, yeah, and my girlfriend and Jess were waiting for us. They were waiting for us. You know what I mean. So I drive first with this music which I love, and I drive to Tarot, indiana. And remember, just text all my girls and be there soon. You know, all of you can't wait to see you. And we're about to go. We start driving. He's driving now, I'm not. So he's driving from Tarot to Chicago. Now, that's right, and I'm.
Speaker 1:I remember just putting my seat back and saying, alright, man, wake me up when we get close to home so I can help you out. You know, put my seat back, close my eyes, boom, I don't know where. Just this hazing, like this gazing light you know what I mean? Just flashing, fluttering red lights, you know you can't, and my mouth opening and closing, you know, and not being able to do anything and just completely like, just like ding, you know what I mean, like that type of like sound, you know, and just literally, just in the car. I don't know if we were flipped over or not, but I just remember, just just I remember, like what the fuck is going on.
Speaker 3:I thought it was a dream. Yeah, it's traumatizing you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:I thought it was a dream, you know. But then I like do I keep my eyes open? I'm dying. Do I keep my eyes open or do I close my eyes? And, like you know, we have a. We had a guest, ross, who went through the same thing. He was like should I keep my eyes open or should I close them?
Speaker 3:So what do you mean? He kept his eyes open. Can you feel anything like temperature pressure?
Speaker 1:no, no literally just the ding and noise and like, just like this, like blurry vision, you know, and just all I hear is gross, gross that's my last name, by the way. Gross, are you okay? Gross, gross. And all I was able to do, I don't know how I was able to do it, maybe because it wasn't because I had a fucking hole in my throat. Maybe I was able to say get help, you know. So then I'm in a coma and all I keep seeing is this vision of me in the car, you know, with the red lights. Lights, you know, that's all I can see. For the whole time I'm in the coma, that you know. So, fucked up.
Speaker 3:How long have I been in the coma for bro.
Speaker 1:I think it was two days, so I was coming up for a good Friday and then I I woke up on Easter you know what I mean From my coma and apparently a lot of people visited me and I want to thank those people who visited me. That one I was in a coma. I didn't know, I didn't know. And, like you know, shots, cody Wolfe shots, you know, racial ponds, carols are all these like people that really like work by my side, like when it first happened, and shout out to all the people on Facebook that reached out. And just like you know, random people that, like I thought, didn't even like, just hate me in high school. They're like feeling bad on Facebook Like this guy is a good guy. He doesn't deserve what happened. Now you know cause it was all over Facebook.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you used the whole, the whole city, the whole city posting about you.
Speaker 1:It was crazy. Even Eric saw you. Sorry, it's crazy yeah.
Speaker 2:It's the whole city of South Elgin.
Speaker 1:Yeah, cause I don't know, like I was friends with a bunch of different groups, you know, those friends of them. You know like, just like they're like this guy's just, you know, in the military, trying to make it like, and then this shit happens, you know. So now I'm in the hospital, all right, and I wake up and this is that Sunday, right yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I wake up, in the first person I see is my girlfriend, and then I see a bunch of like fucking doctors and white coats and I see my family and they're all surrounding the bed. You know, and my mom told me Max, I have to tell you something. You're paralyzed and I'm like what? And she's like but you're going to the best hospital in the world for this, our realizations to Chicago. You're going to the best place, the best, the best, and they're going to cure you. And I'm thinking like, okay, this is going to be like bootcamp. I just have to, you know, like suck it up. I have to, like do everything I have to do.
Speaker 3:That's a good perspective to have.
Speaker 1:That's what I was thinking. I just thought, like I thought it was, like you know, running a mile, like like I used to run a mile. For me it's 19 seconds, Okay, so like I didn't get to do that unless I trained and I would do sprints, you know, and I'll do everything possible to make my running time more faster. So I thought, oh, therapy is working out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, now you're doing mental sprints, yeah exactly, and so I was, and so this happened an hour away from my house. I was an hour away from home, which was crazy.
Speaker 1:So like it was right there, you know. And then you know I'm not going to go through the little hospital situations, but I was in the ICU for like five days of different world man, like they were turning me. I didn't feel it. They were like saying they're doing a bowel program, like what the fuck is that? And it's basically to like you know shit, you know.
Speaker 3:Oh, a bowel program.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a bowel program, yeah. And so then I get to RIC. This place is shitty, bro. I'm thinking it's going to be this modern, nice, contemporary place.
Speaker 3:That's what I was going to say Last time you told the story you said it was. You woke up to like some bullshit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, dude, like. So I get there on April 5th, april 5th, I get there, 2016. And this is the first night that I'm not alone. This is the first time alone and, mind you, I just get to this new hospital. I can't breathe, I can't move, I can't feel anything. I'm paralyzed from the neck down and I can't breathe. I'm on a ventilator and they're just fucking with the settings and stuff and like it's like fucking with my breathing, like, imagine, like the settings of what?
Speaker 3:Sorry, the settings of what? The ventilator, oh, the ventilator.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like they're saying like oh, he needs this instead you know what I mean Like you can change. Anyways, what so?
Speaker 2:they were adjusting your ventilator for the first time and you're just feeling different settings. You're not even communicating with you.
Speaker 3:They're just changing the way your lungs are operating With buds, just staring at his face Like, imagine that feeling I couldn't talk Like at first.
Speaker 2:you're like what the fuck? They're like, oh, slow it down, slow it down.
Speaker 3:They're calm as fuck. They're like no, not that one. How about this one? That's too slow.
Speaker 2:Raise it up a little bit.
Speaker 1:And there was a machine when my heart rate would go past 120. That means like I'm like freaking out. You know I always go like da, da, da, da, da and all those machines used to scare the fuck out of me, dude, like, because I can't see what it looks like. You know, I'm sitting in this bed, you're hearing a loud beeping noise.
Speaker 1:I have a fucking collar on, you know, and I can't eat, I can't drink, I can't do anything and I can't talk. I can't talk. I couldn't talk for 15 days. 15 fucking days, I couldn't talk. Can you imagine that Try and talk to the girl you love and you can't? It's crazy.
Speaker 3:She can't talk for 15 days. That'd be great.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying like she couldn't understand what I was going through because I couldn't tell her. Do you know what I?
Speaker 3:mean.
Speaker 1:Or my family couldn't understand.
Speaker 3:You're a prisoner in your own mind.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was the scariest fucking thing. And then, like they're saying, ok, we're going to do this, we're going to do that, and you have to just fucking feel defeated and say, ok, you know.
Speaker 3:Right, no, we just love it.
Speaker 1:The first time I'm alone at RAC and of course I get this nurse that just doesn't give a fuck about me over the night, and I like so the way I would call for my nurses. There would be a straw next to me and I would blow and the call they would turn on, you know, and I would be calling for the nurse and she wouldn't come. She wouldn't come, man so like. And there's this respiratory therapist, charles Barkstahl. He was military. He was telling me OK, I see army stuff in your arms, army too, you know. And I was freaking out so much about my breathing that like I felt more comfortable on it and move back, which is a bag that you put on your neck, like put on the tray, can you squeeze to get air in. That's how, like I felt more comfortable with someone squeezing air into me than a machine. You know, it's just crazy.
Speaker 2:So crazy yeah.
Speaker 1:And this is the first night, so the second, I, my family, comes and I'm like, just like I'm trying to tell them, like, like the nurse, the nurse wants to take her heart in. Like, exactly the talk you know and they understood it, no-transcript. The nurse got on, so my family's sleeping on a cot. For two months I had a girlfriend at the time they're just sleeping on cots to be there for me, which was amazing. Then, finally, I had the courage to be able to sleep on my own and trust the nurses so much trust the nurses. The first time I was at all alone. It was scary, but I got through it. They gave me my own room. I used to be with a person, but they gave me my own room.
Speaker 3:You had a roommate? Yeah, you had the same situation as yours.
Speaker 1:No, he was a drunk driver and he was driving the car and he couldn't move more than me. He was getting off of the vet. He was on a ventilator too. He was on the vet, but he was getting off of it.
Speaker 3:Oh okay, did you guys ever communicate or say what do you try to do?
Speaker 1:I fucking hate you Because he was getting off of the vet. He's a drunk driver. I didn't do anything wrong. I'm stuck on this vet. I can't move, I can't do anything. When I got my own room, my brother's like this is your TV, hold on. He goes to some thrift store and brings some fucking TV to the hospital. He's like is there too good? Do you guys got a table or something? My brother's going to watch TV on this, not that crap, all right.
Speaker 3:The Haspel TVs are.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so he did that. He showed up to my lawyer and he bought me an Apple TV and I was watching BetterShip and Food Network.
Speaker 3:You're watching Garfield too. The prices right, you're watching what you.
Speaker 1:But then so I get through it. I was at RAC for like seven months and I am thankful for all of the fucking therapists that did not give up on me. I'm thankful for Sarah yeah, not Sarah, but I think it's Sarah. She was my OT, my occupational therapist, and the first time she ever put a mouth stick in my mouth, which is a stick to allow me to communicate with my friends on my phone, if I learn how to do it. I got so offended. I was like get this shit away from my mouth, because I thought I was going to move my hands.
Speaker 1:I got in my arms, you know, I was like it's kind of discouraging, like having a person four weeks in and say to him hey, you want to try a mouth stick? Or hey, this is how you're going to drive your wheelchair with a sip and puff. Like what the fuck's a sip and puff? You have to blow and then you have to suck, to fucking, like so to stop the wheelchair. It's crazy. It was a whole different world, you know, but I chose to fucking. You know like learn the world rather than to give up, you know. And so shout out to Sarah because she didn't, like I was with my girlfriend after that left me after two months and it was terrifying One because she was there and two it was heartbreaking because I know it was young love and I couldn't I can't explain it.
Speaker 1:Like it was just like all I was thinking about was like oh, she's fucking someone right now and I'm sitting in bed and I can't do shit about it. I can't get up, I can't go work out, I can't do anything. Don't, like, you know, get my mind off of it. You know, but shout out to Sarah because she got me to use some house stick again and I started talking to a girl at Demi and it worked out. And then we I moved from the RAC to the VA. That's where I met my friend Joe. He was on Brothers in Arms Reunited, which was a podcast. He's one of my best friends. I met him at the VA and we used to do funny shit, like we would chill and like there was a place that, like the Prott Martini's, was a fucking. So you were.
Speaker 1:They were in my room, yeah, and I was with my girl at the time, demi Shout out to Demi and I was just having a good time and I got so fucking gluttonous, so greedy, that I started messaging other girls Like and this girl is like fucking damn near like putting shit up my dick to like make sure I piss. Yeah, like a catheter, like she's learning how to do all these things.
Speaker 3:You know your girlfriend at the time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, my new one, yeah yeah, and I'm talking to other girls, so I'm sorry if I hurt you. Okay, all right. So so for the VA the VA, the best part of the VA was Chuck, because I met Chuck. Chuck's a great guy, fucking awesome dude. He was seven years older than me and we would always just like fuck around and get high. I'd be like smoking outside of, like a federal man At this facility. Yeah, dude, we would smoke out.
Speaker 3:Who's? How are you getting weed?
Speaker 1:My friend Kevin Roddy was who's bringing in? Yeah you'd bring it up along. You would smoke in the fucking room. No, no, we would go outside. I was gonna say we would smoke and then they would start dripping like junk because there was like a police officer. I'm like, what the fuck is he gonna do here? He calls me. I'm fine, yeah thanks.
Speaker 1:You know. So I started like just fucking, all right, I get on February 1st 2017. I know I'm making this a long story, but I want people to feel the vigor, the fucking, the relentless fear that people went through that I went through, you know, like it's just shit's scary. You know what I mean. And so you know, and we live in my old house, which was smaller, and I'm like partying with a bunch of people that I don't even know that just messaged me. I messaged just one person on Facebook. He messaged me back. I was like, yeah, you want to chill. And then, like he invited someone, then he invited someone, then they started inviting someone. I got like eight people in this small ass room. I spoke to one of the fucking one in the morning with me. You know, just street chilling five and having a good time.
Speaker 3:How do you feel that? That felt good, though right, like you kind of felt like it was the old days. Like the old days it did yeah, no 100%, I'm not sure.
Speaker 1:What sucked is like there was girls and I was wondering, like if they're actually into me or like it's like they feel bad for me. That was the only thing that sucked, most of the part. Yeah, it was fun. I was smoking with friends, you know doing edibles, fucking, just having a good time, you know vibe it. And then my dad's like I can't handle this, it's too loud. You're right above my room. So he's like let's move.
Speaker 3:And we moved to the house we're in right now, which is this huge mansion?
Speaker 1:And like people always ask me, like why did you, why did you get such a big house? And then I tell them like well, me and my dad moved here. You know it's my house, but like we moved here and in the basement it's just a chill ass place with a fucking bar, nice ass area to hang out with friends and I would just be like smoking dabs with people. It's yeah, just straight going hard. You know like clean?
Speaker 3:Did you smoke dabs before the accident?
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 3:Your first time doing dabs post paralyzed. Yeah, holy shit, that is insane.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I got fucked up. I was talking to a few girls and then the VA. The money starts coming in right from the VA and I'm like, okay, party. I'm like let's do this. Yeah, so I'd go to the city. If I can go to a club, you know, get some girls fucking have a great time with my friends, my so called friends. They're not here anymore. They're not here. People need to realize that it felt good in the moment. I felt like the ship, but then I'm like, damn, I'm paying for everybody right now. But it felt good in the moment, you know. And then, yeah, we're fine, and where I clubs, I'm like I just strip clubs. I'm saying like I want this whole room to myself. You know, kristal and I like make sure that, like fucking, three girls are in the room and I want them to switch out every 15 minutes.
Speaker 3:Yeah, make them always yeah.
Speaker 1:And then, like I'll see, like this one girl wanted to stay with me, I'll see you in the next rotation.
Speaker 3:Yeah, she had a nice shift yeah.
Speaker 1:She got so pissed she didn't fucking come back for whatever. Fuck her. Anyways, yeah, so that happened and guess what I'm like? You know what I'm done supplying like people need to like match with me or bring stuff, or I'm not doing it right. And they all left Everyone, all the girls, all the friends. So I'm alone and they're just like wait, wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 2:I'm just kidding, so I'm alone.
Speaker 1:I'm alone in this room, I'm just watching TV and a caregiver at the time they were like you know make out with me and stuff and shout out to her because Wait.
Speaker 3:One of the nurses who were taking care of you. No nurses caregiver. So like a female Eric yeah.
Speaker 1:Someone through the state would take care of me and like, shout out to her for doing that because, like you know, like you're giving me physical affection. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:How did you? How did that happen? Did you get a gesture?
Speaker 1:one day randomly or she was my caregiver, my brother found her and she was cool as fuck, I don't know we would just be like chilling and smoking and she would be cuddling with me and I'd actually feel like a person and I'd say yeah. And the only thing I don't like is she introduced me to a bunch of websites that I would never go on.
Speaker 3:Like rodincom.
Speaker 1:No, like Rosebrides, it's like a website where you talk to girls in different countries, or whatever.
Speaker 3:She put you on to that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she put me on to that, or it's seeking arrangements. She put me on and then that'd be, so I was spending hell of money on fucking.
Speaker 3:Oh shit, horsely, coming down to this, I thought it was like a viewing website. You're paying for women to yeah. What are you paying for?
Speaker 1:Come to my house Because I'm so fucking depressed Because all my friends left and these girls are doing the same thing.
Speaker 3:I'm just fucking paying them. Kissed any of them?
Speaker 1:Yeah, only the ones that were 500. You're not allowed to kiss.
Speaker 3:Oh, the cheap ones are pretty ugly.
Speaker 1:The cheap ones were okay, I just had them over. I had them over to dance in front of my Like, in front of my few friends that still came over and stuff. And I got screwed over by a lot of women back then and now still, you know, back then it's probably like you know, I don't know, maybe a year ago, but yeah, I got screwed over by a lot of women. Anyways, me and my dad, we don't get along. So he moves out, I move upstairs, I'm stuck in this little ass room waiting for my other room to get completely.
Speaker 3:In this house, yeah, in this house. How'd you get upstairs?
Speaker 1:My dad used to live up here. Didn't work out, so you know.
Speaker 3:Oh, this is upstairs.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah yeah, so this is upstairs and I'm in the room by the elevator, you know, there's like no space. That's my room, we put my bed in there, everything, and I'm still having girls over, you know. And I just started focusing on therapy and my sister found this place called Next Steps and I would go to it all. Shout out to John O'Connor for episode 50. He owns Next Steps, you know Like, but I would go there.
Speaker 3:So what's the timeframe of you getting out, like coming home from the hospital and then your friends leaving you Like friends fucking off?
Speaker 1:So I got home from the hospital February 1st 2017. I would say one year 2018.
Speaker 3:They were around for one year. One year when you cut off the money and drugs and fun stuff they were left gone 12 months, that sucks, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So 12 months I felt like the shit. And then another 12 months I'm just having random people over, you know, just to like and I'm not, and for everybody listening, I'm not having these girls over just like fuck. I'm having these girls over to like, you know, enjoy female companionship and like you know like to fucking cuddle with shit. They have like physical affection. Because I'm paralyzed from the knockdown, I can't go outside and like find someone. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, it's not literally like, oh, I'm calling a hoe over. I'm calling a hoe over to like ride my dick. That I can't feel. No, that's not it at all.
Speaker 1:Anyways, I started doing therapy, I started fucking doing really good. You know like my life's getting together. I'm still like a little upset, you know sad, like the driver Nicholson. He didn't stay around. He used to come up here you know fuck around with this girl and he kind of like used my house and he would leave, but so we didn't work out as friends. Like I haven't talked in five years, but I hope he's doing good. You know, and I wouldn't have said that in the first episode. This is my like. My perspective has completely changed.
Speaker 3:I remember that you were going off, you were saying names cursing on the floor.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just fucking just completely.
Speaker 2:You had a gender-wishing death.
Speaker 1:Like a kill. I literally did. Yeah, I literally had a hit list. It was crazy. I was going hard. You know, I apologize for my behavior because that's how I felt at the time, but my perspective has changed after 60 plus episodes of Life to the Max, you know, which is what I'm going to get to. So Nicholson he didn't stay around and I would have friends over. You know, I would have like a certain friends over that I used to have back then and my cousin would come over, but I would mostly be alone. Like from 2018 to 2021, I was mostly alone. It was crazy. Chuck, you know, chuck from the VA came here and moved downstairs so I did have him. We would hang out like I mean. So I guess I wasn't alone. But then I started like getting a throw pain called glass and pharyngeal and I just never want to get up out of bed. You know, I hated it Sucked. I still have it to this day, but I fight through it, you know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because didn't you say it hurts when you talk sometimes.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's hurting right now, but I'm doing it because why is there me and you? Be quiet when you have a voice, you just have to, like, deal with the pain. You know to go with the punches.
Speaker 2:When did the throw pain like first come?
Speaker 1:Around 2018, like six.
Speaker 2:So two years no throw pain. And then one day you just woke up with throw pain.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like broken glass, like swallowing nerves. It was crazy. Still hurts to this day. It hurts right now talking to you guys, but I'm doing it right now, you know, because I don't care, I don't fucking, I'm over it. You know, like that's because of this guy. So in 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, I had like I had like friends over, but it wasn't like every day, you know. Like, luckily, I had like you know, sam, she would come over and like she was my caregiver, she would play video games and stuff. So that was cool, I did Matt Ferrara, you'd come over and you guys all kiss Play video games.
Speaker 1:I mean no, not her. No, she was. She was more like a dude friend.
Speaker 2:You said Matt kissed you right.
Speaker 1:It's not a percent. I was just kidding, yeah, but like, yeah, that was like me, people I was looking at like places to live and stuff, just just. But at the same time I was struggling, man, like I didn't know who was going to take care of me the night of you know, because I only had six hours of nursing. So I had six hours of nurses and the rest is through state. So my mom was doing all the schedule in through state to find like people to take care of me random people on the street.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. And it was terrifying, fucking terrifying. I didn't bring that up.
Speaker 3:I wanted you to emphasize how terrifying it is to trust someone to know how to save your life, just in case, something bad starts, and especially in your situation, because you actually had a registered nurse that didn't give a shit about you at that one spot. So how are you going to feel when that stranger's on the street? Exactly.
Speaker 1:Some strangers were better than nurses, though you know. I believe that yeah, you know, like some strangers, like you know, helped you more, but it was terrifying.
Speaker 3:So what.
Speaker 1:A lot of people called in.
Speaker 3:When did you start getting like a consistent rotation of nurses?
Speaker 1:Okay, so that's around 2020. Like, I was able to get a grant through the VA and they got me the coverage. I had 24-hour care. You know, I like just chilling. One day I'm upset and Eric messages me. I messaged him back then when I was partying, Back in 2017, like just straight partying, I thought I'd bring him away with. I liked his rap, I knew him from high school. And he messaged me back in 2018 or something and he messaged me back in 2021. And he's like what's up, man, Like how you been? Like, and Keith's going through his shit too, I guess, like he never went into the stock market. He can't sleep, he's fucking sweating.
Speaker 2:We don't have to get into details on it, yeah.
Speaker 1:And he's going through some shit too, like a lot. So he messaged me because and I'm telling him how much I ate, my life and all this stuff and I said I got to go to a parade Because he's like when do you want to hang out? I'm like I got to go to a parade, like on Saturday, if you want to come, or Sunday. And he was like yeah, man, sure I'll come. So he comes and he doesn't realize I'm leading the parade, yeah.
Speaker 3:I don't remember him telling me that.
Speaker 1:He doesn't realize I'm leading the parade. I mean, eric, we're talking like in the midst of it. Then all of a sudden they're like OK, ready. And I'm like, if you're ready, he's like I guess I'm ready, you ready, and we go through West Indy to do the parade. Then I go to the VA. People are coming up to me. They're like Max, you did so good. You know like good job, I hope you're doing good. You know like, just treat me like a fucking child.
Speaker 3:I was going to say, did they have like their hands on their knees, like looking at a shoe?
Speaker 1:Yeah, like some stupid shit.
Speaker 2:Changing their tone. They were like yeah, sal, so you want to meet at the bar at the parade?
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh hey, max, you want a cookie. Yeah, like, how are you? You did such a good job, eric. Like turns to me. He's like bro, does that shit fucking annoy you?
Speaker 2:People might think that me and Max knew each other in high school, but we didn't. This is my first time ever meeting Max, you know. So keep in mind, like when you first meet someone, there's like a social norm to when you ask certain personal questions, you know. And I just had to turn to Max and be like does that shit bother you, bro? Does it bother you? And Max is like what there's what bothers me, the fucking talking about? And I'm like the way they talk to you, like you're a fucking puppy. I'm like are you sick? Are you dying? Max is like no, and I'm like do you understand what I'm saying? And he's like, yeah, I fucking hate it. He's like you want to get out of here.
Speaker 3:I'm like, yeah, let's fucking go, we want to go.
Speaker 2:He's like you drive my van, like dude I drive. Fedex trucks, let's go.
Speaker 1:I'm not telling him man. Hey, I'm leaving with Eric, she's like who's?
Speaker 2:Eric, I'm talking to Eric.
Speaker 1:And then we go to my crib. He sees my house and he's probably like well, it's like a fucking big house. And then you come over, he fucking invites you. That was the day. That was the day.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you go over pray that comes over.
Speaker 1:We all. I got us all food. I forgot what I got Jimmy John's, Jimmy John's.
Speaker 2:We had Jimmy John's, yeah.
Speaker 1:And Skid time, and then you're like, you're like Skid time, and then I just said her name, bro.
Speaker 2:Look, you just said her name, she calling. She calling you literally said her name and my phone started ringing.
Speaker 1:That's crazy.
Speaker 2:My phone was like the file later.
Speaker 1:Yeah, anyways, yeah, so burn that. All of them, come over. And these are like you guys are cool, you don't want anything pretty, which is something I've never felt before, you know. And Eric's like hey, man, what are you doing? It's a Tuesday and I'm like just chillin, like why do you sleep? Do you want to go out today? And I was like I've never felt that. I was like, yeah, sure, we'll go out. And I chose to go to the city and we went to the Shed Aquarium. She was fired and we were driving around and my nurse called off and I got so fucking pissed and then I was like, dude, look up Rage Room. And he's like what's a Rage Room? I was like, just look up Rage Room, I'm fucking pissed, what do we cheer you to Max?
Speaker 2:You want this. Oh shit, that's how you take a shot at Hennessy, Max. That's how you take a shot at Hennessy. She was all the quiet.
Speaker 3:I remember you sent me pictures of that. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So we go to this Rage Room and I'm like, just break shit. I'm like be my hands, just an arms, just break shit.
Speaker 3:He's like what's that's so funny? Yeah, he's like releasing tension for you.
Speaker 1:The second time, me and Eric ringing it out. He's like we're straight vibing. I'm telling him to break shit for me.
Speaker 2:Breaking Hennessy. He's taking a shot at Hennessy. I'm shattering the Hennessy bottle. The nurse was so scared to break some glass. I'm like, come on here, just throw this bottle at the wall, just throw it, just do it. And she finally builds the courage after me and Max taunting her to do it right.
Speaker 3:She finally builds some courage.
Speaker 2:She takes the bottle, she throws it. The bottle hits the brick wall, bounces right back to her, literally right back to her, and she's like I'm done, because I don't want to hit Max, I'm done, I'm not doing this. She fucking walks away. That's so funny. Try again, try again. Aim for the corner.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying that was crazy. So I have like before this, like at the VA, when I at the VFW, when I was talking to Eric I was like, hey, man, do you want to work for me? And then he was like what I was like?
Speaker 2:you want to be my assistant?
Speaker 1:No, Do you want to be my assistant? And I was like no. And I was like, bro, I'm serious, I need an assistant. You don't understand these nurses, don't understand me sometimes.
Speaker 2:Bro, I'm a fetics, I'm good, I'll come here as your friend, bro, but chill, the fuck out.
Speaker 1:Finally, he saw what I was, he saw why I wanted to Once.
Speaker 2:you're nine to five just feels different when you have another opportunity behind you.
Speaker 1:I hear him Every time Loretta would yell at me across the station.
Speaker 2:I know what changed your mind Every single time I was filling out paperwork and dealing with grown ass adults acting like children.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. So I'm like, fuck this dude, let's go to the Four Seasons. Like, and he finally said, ok, I'll work for you part time, let's see how it goes. I mean, I'm like, let's go to the Four Seasons.
Speaker 2:Because I still don't believe you, max, something ain't right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's like there's something weird about this kid.
Speaker 2:Every single time you offer me a job, I see horns coming out of your forehead.
Speaker 1:Anyway, so we go to the Four Seasons. We're fucking having a great time. His girlfriend's bitching at him and I'm loving it.
Speaker 2:You know what this motherfucker does, bro. So keep, look, we're at the Four Seasons, we're at a top-nosh hotel. Bro. Roddy Rich came with his squad in that hotel. When we're sitting in the lobby, he walked the whole fucking tour bus walks right past us. Right, this is a celebrities hotel. My book is like you want to eat? Where do we eat? That was outside. It was like some nice ass restaurant by the fucking nice ass hotel. Right, he's like yeah, get whatever you want. Get this, get that, get this. Yeah, oh, you want to get dessert? Yeah, get that big ass cake, get that big ass $30 cake, yeah, get it.
Speaker 2:And then he looks at me and he goes, you're buying the cake. And I'm like damn, like shit, I guess. Like how do I look saying no Right to the hotel? Yeah, man, for the Four Seasons. I just got steak from this motherfucker. How much was the cake? It was $30. But the way you said it, Like did I really. Yeah, this is great. You're buying the cake. You wanted the cake. I don't even eat sweets, bro. If anybody knows me, I don't fuck with sugar.
Speaker 2:You're buying the cake. Was it cake fire? No, that's a me.
Speaker 1:That's still fun.
Speaker 3:Look at the end of the day, it's still a fucking deal. Yeah, bro, you pay $30 in three seasons.
Speaker 2:Yeah, pay $30.
Speaker 1:It's a cake, oh it's a cake, anyway, so fast forward. Eric is like introduced me to all these people. He's like he's introduced me to all these lines.
Speaker 3:Yeah, man, he's increasing his quality of life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he is. He's showing me people and Eric told me something. He said I promise you I will never bring anybody to your house that's going to steal from you, because a lot of people stole from me back then. And to this day, and to this day, no one has stolen. For what? For what I know, no one has stole anything from me, which is amazing.
Speaker 2:Except your heart, yeah, my heart.
Speaker 1:Yeah, nowadays there are these people who really chill people and I'm sitting there one day and I was like y'all, you know what I wanted to do back then? I wanted to do a podcast.
Speaker 2:Nah, you're skipping steps, motherfucker. You brought up the podcast the first day we met. Oh yeah, and if you want to get grim, you were extra sad, max, and you were like dude, I just feel like giving up. And me and Silas were like what the fuck are you talking about? And you're like I just can't do shit because I'm paralyzed and I'm like, bro, you have a voice, you should do a podcast. Me and Silas wanted to do a podcast, like you should do it, and you're like I can't. What'd you say?
Speaker 1:Because no one will be able to hear me.
Speaker 2:You said your friends tried and your voice was too low and I was like fuck your friends. You went to school for this shit. I know I could make you fucking.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is easy.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So then we're like fuck it, let's start a podcast. And we said we were coming up with names. Life to the Max came up.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no. Life to the Max was always in your motherfucking head. There was no debate. You're like, yeah, life to the Max. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Life to the me, life to the me. How did you come up with that?
Speaker 1:I don't know man, I just like I don't know. I was like life to the Max. It came off. I think it's like the second one, right? Yeah, no like.
Speaker 2:Did y'all want to hear me say those?
Speaker 3:We were looking at different. That's the only thing.
Speaker 1:That's the first thing he said.
Speaker 3:There was no thought for us. So that's just life to the Max. Let's do a podcast. Life to the Max.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Two years, two years before this, we are on a coffee table. We are recording our first episode, split second.
Speaker 3:right Now we're here today right, we got cameras and shit.
Speaker 1:Cameras. We got lights. We got all these lights, camera action. It's a fucking show. Now. It's not a fucking podcast, it's a show. It's an experience. I met so many great people and I was so grim in the beginning, I was so upset and annoyed still, and Eric's bringing all these people in and we've had freaking tumblers. We've had people who've gotten shot. We've had people whose wives have shot them. We've had fucking them.
Speaker 2:Max doesn't know this, but in the beginning I would have to give those warning messages before TV shows. Whenever I'd bring someone to this house, I would stop them on the porch and be like hey. On the porch, I would be like, hey, Tell them before they come they've been able forward. No, no, no, no, Once they get here before.
Speaker 3:I left. Welcome to the house. By the way, he's paralyzed.
Speaker 2:By the way, he's an extremely disrespectful motherfucker. Oh wait, you might be offended. Don't walk out. Challenge this motherfucker, poke his brain.
Speaker 1:Shout out to Laurel the comedian. He said can I roast up? Can I roast?
Speaker 3:up, did he roast him? I heard he held his tongue a little bit. You got your feet, you could tune into that episode.
Speaker 1:It's called Laurel the comedian.
Speaker 2:No, it was the title of the episode.
Speaker 1:It's called Laurel the comedian.
Speaker 2:That is called painting comedy.
Speaker 1:Probably painting comedy, I don't fucking know Featuring Laurel the comedian, so I was like I meet all these people and they're treating me like a fucking human being, so I'm starting to get used to it. Now we're living life to the max, right, but now we're really good. Ok, we got your website, we got your clothes. We got to get fucking in People, I got to sponsor people, and Daniel and Elias shout out to Daniel Elias. So they came into my lives too, because of Eric, because he saw Daniel. After how many years.
Speaker 2:It was a few years. I did not see Daniel and I was. I was on foot, walking and I see Daniel's car outside a laundry mat and I texted him my bro, you had a fucking laundry mat and he walks out. It's like what you doing here? I'm like I'm just walking. I forgot what I was doing. I think my car was at the shop and and he's like I work right here. Come through and him and Elias were at the office and and I need care of I was looking for caregivers for Max, and I would hit up everyone that, like, makes beads.
Speaker 2:I would hit up artists, I would hit up anyone that could silently Create while max is sleeping and I would tell them dude, I got a job that could pay you and you could just do what you love to do. You know, put the headphones on, make some fucking beats while this motherfucker sleeps. You know, I'm saying you can pay to do what you do, right.
Speaker 3:Please click it. I'm up for this. I'm just this snare. You hit a snare.
Speaker 2:You hit a snare. Hard part is going on hey.
Speaker 3:Hold on to my sample this.
Speaker 2:Hey, wake up, you good, you good, yeah you good, you good, he ain't deep sleep. He's asleep. Oh, everybody said no, I couldn't find it. Give it for max. Everybody said no, bro I'm.
Speaker 3:I'm giving licks to people like bro, somebody told me a you know just well, did you tell them that like they can create, while that you told them that whole that?
Speaker 2:was my, that was my, my pitch, that was my thing to reel him in, that was my bait.
Speaker 3:I mean, it's like Like first thing I hear is like he's paralyzed. It's like sounds like a big responsibility, like what the fuck? Like what do I have to do?
Speaker 1:That kind of sounds, I fucking see, which is crazy, because Daniel Elias came, because you got them to come to my house.
Speaker 2:I got Daniel Elias started working Immediately when I brought up the yeah, what I do, you know, yeah, and he's like what the fuck I want to do it. I'm like you can't come through, fuck you can. And then a loyal they've been the most loyal. They had not flip flopped. They've, ever since their first.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man, shout out to Daniel Elias and like then, like life to the max, like the group just started really kidding, like, closer than I'm, like Meeting all these people I mean actresses, me and fucking comedians, I mean fucking singers, rappers, all this stuff that just like, and like we're hearing their stories and what they went through, and like they see what I'm going through and we came up with something called the little things, and like they're like damn yeah, like it's crazy, I can't. I think breathing is not a privilege, I just think it's there for me. I can't believe bring you, think you're taking away from me, you know, I mean. And then like it kind of like takes away, and they like really think about what all a little thing is, that they can't, that they don't. It's not that they don't appreciate, it is that they forget about all right.
Speaker 3:Yes, you don't think about breathing, yeah, things like that. But you see, you see what's like. You're going, someone like he was going through, that they're helping. It's like, oh shit.
Speaker 1:So we started a coffee table and then I'm like a let's, let's fucking Do like you know, like lights camera. Actually let's do cameras.
Speaker 2:We're actually nervous. Should we do cameras?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was like you two stuff, man, you know, I mean like should we do it? I'm like fucking we'll do it, you know, and then I go into septic shock, die like literally I think I did.
Speaker 2:I just quit my job. I'm like you can't die man. No, no, I didn't. I didn't. This degree doesn't pay shit, Fuck God dude For the first time, bro, I didn't finish God of War bro.
Speaker 3:We gotta come back.
Speaker 1:I'll be right there. So like I'm like, so now I'm like fucking dying in septic shock rate and they, they figured out, they mean we could, but I'd stay in the hospital for 15 days. Yeah, you, you came to the hospital, yeah, and you know what I'd show all those people that I didn't even know, like girls and guys, just like on snapchat.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, because Eric was doing stories. Yeah, Eric, just Just like.
Speaker 1:I just heard that you're in the house.
Speaker 2:So you're in the house. Give me my prayers and I'll be right back. Max. Hey man, Wish you good luck. I got some hoes ready for both of us. Boy, they trying to suck you up my nigga, so you got to get the fuck up out there.
Speaker 3:Max man, I just want to let you know to get better bro.
Speaker 1:So we, uh, so I get out of that situation and it's been good ever since. I think we, just as we, it's been a learning experience. I feel that, eric, that we have to do social media.
Speaker 3:You guys definitely butted heads.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we have to do social media. It's like holding an animal, yeah, I mean, and we're trying to promote the podcast. Business cards, we're doing T-shirts, you're doing a lot, man, you're blogging.
Speaker 3:You guys are going on trips and blogging, yeah, like trips.
Speaker 1:My first trip was with Eric out of this state it was, I can't see. Chief came as far, as far as great time, you know, and all my friends came with, like Daniels came with, and we just like had a good time, you know, and now like we, after two years, we went from a coffee table to this life, to the max.
Speaker 3:Heavy ass table. Yeah, nice table.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what it, and I would the same fucking people I was with two years ago except I have all water with me A person I sponsor because the skating is fucking out of this world.
Speaker 2:Pleased to be here.
Speaker 1:He's a real water fucking dope and I met him through Daniel. You know, it's like all these connections you meet all these people and then life's a maximum.
Speaker 2:Fucking tree bro. The podcast is like we get this guest and this guest and this guest and this guest and this guest and this guest knows this guest and this guest and this guest and this guest and this guest and this guest, and then a new guest and new branch and fucking it's like.
Speaker 1:It's like something you don't believe that's going to happen, but it happens.
Speaker 2:We know what you know obviously makes about what you can prove.
Speaker 1:You know I mean, and I'm paralyzed for a neck down, breathe through machine, but that doesn't stop me from falling my dreams to do what I love to do. I don't got an excuse to, neither should you. That's why the light just went out, because you know what. It's time to get off this. But yeah, I love doing a podcast. I love meeting the people you know, mostly rappers.
Speaker 3:I love most of the black guys. Those are pretty cool guys.
Speaker 1:I love meeting people and I love seeing the podcast girl. Like we like tick tock. We did a tick tock, like you know, it's so funny. Paralyzed jokes I like some of them blew up and got to like, and then we got Ross to come over, a guy who was like super cool, but we only knew because Joyder Lucas made a song about him.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no. I remember watching his interview from the barracks, and then Joyder Lucas made a song about him.
Speaker 3:What's his full name?
Speaker 1:Ross Kepkekew.
Speaker 2:And I remember his shit from high school and like I don't watch interviews a lot, but like his interview just stuck with me, I was always showing people this interview. Like you got to watch this shit and then you got to watch his music video and I showed Max and he's like I'm gonna hit him up. I'm like, yeah, hit him up. It's my fucking response. Yeah, hell, yeah, I'll drive from Michigan all the way up there to record you guys Fuck. Yeah, I'm like wow bro.
Speaker 2:Eight years ago I was watching your interview and now you're at the table. Dad, like dad, look at this guy, you know, and now he's sitting with us and he's coming back in two days.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Sean Ross Kepkew, this could be great.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's four he's at my house Hospital here.
Speaker 1:Not paralyzed, you know, yeah, but shout out to like the people who do that, who, like you, wouldn't believe that have crazy stories, you know you wouldn't believe it. Shout out to them, like for them, helping other people. This podcast is therapy. That's what I think of it. I think of it as therapy, you know, and sometimes just a fun time enjoying drinking beer with friends, smoking, having a good time, and I'm like super happy with the way it went. I want everybody to know, if you listen to the first 10 minutes of split second episode one, it will not be the person that you're hearing right now. It won't. I've changed, you know. That's because of Eric. You've evolved. It's because of Eric. I'm still a piece of shit. Is it because of me?
Speaker 2:It's because of me. I just made like this podcast, almost like a mirror, where you could see yourself, you could hear yourself, you could rewind and watch, you could be like wow, I'm cringing a little bit, and then you make adjustments every episode.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, it's a beautiful thing and I love when people like share their story, even though they don't want to sometimes, but they share it to help people, to help themselves, and after that they're like scared to get well before they're scared to get on the podcast. After the like, they feel vigorated, they're like yes, this is amazing, you know, like this was a great time. I actually really enjoyed this. Yeah, and that's what life to Max is, and we're working, we're going to keep going. This is just two years in. Maybe it's just two years in there. It takes a while, but we got the. We got everything possible to make this podcast extremely successful, which it will be, hopefully, in four years or two years or one year or one month, I'll be standing up and not sitting in a chair. That's how it's got to be.
Speaker 3:It's how your mindset has to be If you haven't done so for two mental sprints, just like I sprinted to the military.
Speaker 1:I just got to do mental sprints with my head, you know, and just keep going and live life to Max. That's what life to Max is about, and I'm with the same people, plus one same people that I was at the table with this coffee table, that was at the table with it to do this, to start the podcast. So, yeah, that that is my story so far, so far.
Speaker 1:Alright, everyone, this has been life to Max. Please like, comment and subscribe post notifications as well, so you can check out whatever. We post a podcast, please comment. We love to hear your comments. I love to hear if I helped somewhere. I love to hear if someone got offended by me.
Speaker 2:I love to see when people talk shit about Max. So go ahead and roast his ass.
Speaker 1:Yeah just do it. But yeah, it's been life to Max, just life to Max podcast on all platforms and we're out.