Oprah Winfrey’s Weight Loss Special: Ozempic & the Big Debate: A Metaphysical Perspective

Listen to my conversation with Timothy Waterman as we discuss Oprah Winfrey’s special, “Shame, Blame and the Weight Loss Revolution.”

We discuss the highly controversial content which focuses on the drugs, including Ozempic, some people are using to help them release pounds.

Get ready to hear some new 5D/Law of Attraction perspectives on the subject.

I left in the 15-minute “after chat” Timothy and I had because it was so good, so enjoy this little behind-the-scenes bonus content at the end.

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Food, Exercise and Consciousness with Timothy (Beau) Waterman

Chapters

• 0:00 Discovering Food Freedom Metaphysical Perspective
• 5:50 Understanding Perspectives on Health and Body
• 14:02 Discovering Inner Knowing for Personal Choices
• 19:52 Confronting Shame and Body Image
• 36:09 Exploring Inner Truth and Self-Acceptance
• 46:21 Exploring Personal Truths and Preferences
• 1:00:59 Self-Love and Personal Empowerment
• 1:12:44 Beliefs About Food and Freedom

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

It's a personal choice. I always say go within. However, I feel like I have discovered food freedom. I don't obsess about food anymore, like Oprah was talking about in the show how, without this medication, she would obsess about food. And 10 years ago, 20 years ago, 30 years ago yes, that would be me. Now the spiritual path has led me to a place where I do not obsess about food anymore. I never would have thought that would be possible. I celebrate food. I am not ashamed of enjoying food. I'm not ashamed of my body anymore and it I get better and better at it. It's not 100% there, so I feel like I've found the keys to the kingdom and I want to shout it from the rooftops. And yet I also understand why someone might choose to take the medication.

Speaker 1: 1:03

Welcome to the delicious alignment and the art of abundance podcast. We cover topics related to health, wealth and happiness from a spiritual and metaphysical point of view. I'm your host, author and intuitive coach, rhonda Ryder. Would you like to win a coaching session with me? Here's a way you can become eligible Simply share the link to this podcast, delicious alignmentcom slash podcast, or share a specific episode on Facebook or Instagram and tag me and you'll be entered into a drawing. At the first week of every month. I'll announce the winner and contact you to set up your free session. I look forward to seeing you in the next video. I look forward to meeting you.

Speaker 1: 1:53

So, about today's episode my friend Timothy Waterman and I discuss Oprah Winfrey special that you can now watch on Hulu, called shame, blame and the weight loss revolution, which focuses a lot on the drugs that are now in the headlines that people are taking for weight loss. So it is very, very controversial and we want to get in there and discuss it from a metaphysical point of view. So get ready to hear some new 5D perspectives on the subject. I left in the 15 minute after chat Timothy and I had after we thought we were finished with the episode because it was so good. So enjoy this little behind the scenes bonus content at the end. Let's get started, hi, timothy, hi.

Speaker 2: 2:49

Rhonda, so good to be back with you.

Speaker 1: 2:53

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 2:54

You were having me.

Speaker 1: 2:55

Yes, absolutely. Thank you so much for agreeing to have this impromptu conversation with me. I was going to do a solo episode because it really interested me. I watched the Oprah special and I thought, oh, it would be so much more fun to have this conversation with somebody that gets it, that gets the metaphysical aspect of it, and I immediately thought of you. So thank you.

Speaker 2: 3:21

Yeah, my pleasure.

Speaker 1: 3:24

Yes, yes, and I know you watched Oprah special on shame and blame and the weight loss revolution that just aired on Monday, really talking about the weight loss drugs that the country is all talking about. I think people are coming out of the woodwork now saying that they're on it now that she did that, which is interesting to me. No judgment, which is really why I wanted to do this show. No judgment oh gosh, there's so much judgment around this topic.

Speaker 2: 3:56

Yeah, yeah, no, it's coming at it from metaphysics. I just want to make that clear. Yeah, to me these are perspectives, and I'm never, when I'm speaking, I'm never like speaking because I want someone to think the way that I think I'm simply sharing where I've landed amidst of a world full of perspectives, and I'm simply sharing perspectives that just feel good to my heart and soul. And so the main thing that stood out to me and I've been thinking about this as I knew I was gonna, or feeling into this, as I knew I was gonna speak to you is that what feels really relevant for me to offer again as a perspective, is that all of these ways that we look at things are learned, if you ask me. And so when we're looking at a certain, when we're looking at anyone, however they look, however they appear, and we have, let's say, a snap judgment, or we say something's wrong quote, unquote, wrong to me. That's where I pause and I ask myself the question did I come into this world with this snap judgment, with this perspective?

Speaker 1: 5:04

For me.

Speaker 2: 5:05

I feel the answer is no, because I can tell you I have a lot of nieces and nephews. One of them just turned one recently and I look very different than most people in his world. I'm the only one I know that has these big stretched ears and has a mohawk hair cut, and I wear t-shirts that have skulls on them. I'm the only one that looks like that in my family dynamic, and my nephew looks at me no different than anyone else, Just because I feel like my nephew that's one is seeing me through a clear lens, like he doesn't have the stories, he doesn't have the judgments, he just sees me and he's just, oh, like you're just, you're a face and I really don't have anything to say about it, but I feel like he's feeling into more of my vibration and he's more concerned with. Does this person feel warm and cozy? Are they smiling? And when I smile, he smiles. So I just want to lead off with my perspective is so much, more, so much.

Speaker 2: 6:01

I know that these topics have really heated opinions, and what's helpful for me is remember that I didn't come in with any real perspectives or narratives or judgments. I just took on things from the world and what I've been doing since then is really looking at the opinions I took on and asking myself, on an energetic measure Does it feel good to hold this perspective? Does it feel good to my heart and soul? And when I doesn't, when it doesn't, I let go, because judgments don't feel good to me and the more I identify a judgment I'm like oh yeah, I think I can let this go now If that makes sense.

Speaker 1: 6:37

Yeah, I love that, thank you. Thank you for opening up with that and I did want to go through some. I wrote some, like Oprah, I wrote some index cards and I do want to say that I do learn a lot from her interviewing and I agree with you. I agree with you. This is a lot of what judgments are from humans is a lot of learned responses, just like the whole topic of fat shaming and then judging Now I feel like it's not only judging people for how they're not losing weight, now judging people for how they're losing weight. I just want to say up front, I wanted, I would really like to go through these and get through as many as we can in this short time we have together. But I just would like to say that me personally, you know, today I wouldn't choose to go on Osempic or anything like that, and I know you and I both we have I have interviewed you before and if people want to hear your story, they can.

Speaker 1: 7:43

I'll put the link to that episode in the show notes about your journey to loving your body and transforming your body. I have my own story of learning how to love my body and transforming my body, actually releasing a lot of weight and feeling good about that and really enjoying that. However, if I was back to my highest weight right now, having had no quote, unquote success, who knows? I might decide to take the drug. I mean, what is right for one person isn't right for another. It's about what you said, what feels good to you.

Speaker 1: 8:22

So let's hit these cards and go through some of the points that they went through on the show. So I want to start out with saying that she started out the show, oprah Winfrey, on a statistic, which, whatever this statistic means, because who set says these people are obese, okay, but 100 million people in the United States and one billion people in the world are living with obesity. So I don't know, I just don't like that word obese. I just don't like that word. But what do you think about that number and the word obese? For?

Speaker 2: 9:02

me. Again, this is my perspective I'm careful with labels and really also being careful of what meaning I'm getting to a label. Because, again, since this is a metaphysical conversation, I am always what I personally feel is that my thoughts and my narratives, my stories about anything are very powerful, and what I've seen in my own life is that in my life is that the stories come first. The stories, the definitions, the labeling comes first, and then I get a reflection back from my physical reality experience. And so if I'm getting a certain reflection and it hits me a certain way where I'm just like something about this reflection, it doesn't really feel the best. For me. I've learned to take personal inventory and say do I have a story that is creating this reflection? Am I labeling something in a certain way that's creating this reflection? And I find over and over again that I do. And so for me, what I found is just to become more neutral rather than applying a label that I've heard over and over again from voices outside of me. For me, I try to stay curious and open, so I'll be very candid with you.

Speaker 2: 10:21

I was fit for most of my life. I was a gymnast, then I became a bodybuilder and I was just like in the fitness for most of my life and in the past few years I just haven't felt the same passion to exercise. Like for the first time I've had experiences where I've a little bit of a sense of, I have a little bit of a belly, I have a little bit of the love handle thing going on and even my butt is a little bit saggy. And I know all the societal rhetoric about this, like I know all the societal opinions and I catch them. And when I catch them I just look in the mirror and I pause and I go. But what if I can just stay neutral? What if I can just stay neutral and just see what's in front of me, not make up a story, not go into judgment?

Speaker 2: 11:05

I can also ask what my preference is from this place. Do I prefer being fit? Again, I can ask that question, but I don't for me, I don't like to label it, I like just to say this is what I'm seeing, how do I feel about it, what do I want from here? Which gives me that clarity and then I can work on. So, for instance, I'll say how would I feel if I had a fit body, again in my own assessment and the answers will come oh, I'd feel strong, I'd feel energetic, I'd feel good in my body. And then I personally rather than going into an old story or judgment or anything like that I'm just like what, if I could cultivate those feelings of feeling good in my body now? And I'm not kidding when I do that, I find that the next day, when I look in the mirror, it's like things are different, like all of a sudden the reflections change and it looks more like my preference, if that makes sense.

Speaker 2: 12:03

And so I'm just very careful with labeling and stories especially when the stories don't feel good, if that makes sense.

Speaker 1: 12:09

Yes, I love what you're saying and I agree and I feel like that conversation is really up here. Yeah, I have been somebody who would have been labeled obese right by the medical society, and I have been in. This is why I'm so passionate about this and I wanted to have this conversation Because I have been there where I was probably clinically be diagnosed by the medical profession as obese. I was binging, all the time binging, and it wasn't that I didn't know when I was full that the show was talking a lot about how a lot of people they don't have the chemistry in their body that tells them when they're full, so they keep eating. That wasn't me. I was full, my body was telling me when I was full, but I kept eating. It was like I knew that what I was doing was numbing myself, like my dad was an alcoholic and he was numbing himself so he wouldn't feel his emotions. I was numbing myself so I wouldn't have to feel the uncomfortable emotions and I kept eating. I would kept eating. So I feel like and I just want to take a moment here, timothy, and then I'll let you respond but I just want to take a moment and say I understand where these people are coming from. These people meaning people who are turning to the drug because they're experiencing, either they don't know why, right Chemically they're not feeling the fullness, or they just keep eating, like I was doing, way beyond the past, of hunger Now.

Speaker 1: 14:02

For so many years, decades I wasn't able to find a solution. I was trying to try to read those anonymous. I tried coaches, I tried all different things and then eventually I found Abraham and I started listening and listening. Things started to get a little bit better and then I felt the guidance to write my book delicious alignment and how 25 women learn to love and transform their bodies using Abraham Hicks and Law of Attraction. And then I started using that, those teachings, to help me and I started to release pounds and I really wanted to understand what is Abraham talking about. And then I went beyond Abraham and I think you also have found food freedom and loving your body, accepting our bodies. Maybe it doesn't look the way exactly I want it to my arms or whatever like for me, my thighs right and still I feel like I'm loving my body more and more as time goes on, even now, as okay and great. Now I've got aging to deal with. I got the thing about loving my body, and then I start to get older or look older, and then, oh, now that's interesting, another thing, great, another opportunity to practice loving your body. So where I really want to get to is that this 3d reality is one thing, and when you're in, when I say 3d reality, yes, the physical rules of gravity and all these other things, and of course you want to find these solutions here in medicine or this or that, and so there's nothing wrong with that. I again, it's a personal choice. I always say go within.

Speaker 1: 15:55

However, I feel like I have discovered food freedom. I don't obsess about food anymore, like Oprah was talking about in the show how, without this medication, she would obsess about food. And 10 years ago, 20 years ago, 30 years ago yes, that would be me. Now, the spiritual path has led me to a place where I do not obsess about food anymore. I never would have thought that would be possible. I celebrate food. I am not ashamed of enjoying food. I'm not ashamed of my body anymore, and it I get better and better at it. It's not 100% there. So I feel like I've found the keys to the kingdom and I want to shout it from the rooftops. And yet I also understand why someone might choose to take the medication, and I really just my messages. Can we stop judging people? Can we stop judging their choices? What's right for them? That's you know what I feel, like I could tear up about it.

Speaker 2: 17:17

Yeah, no, yeah, I definitely agree it's. We really don't know what it's like to be in anyone else's shoes and we're also not their inner voice. I feel that we all have our own unique inner voice and to me I refer to it as my soul, but I know other people say inner being or higher self, and so to me it's just that inner guiding light that truly knows our whole experience and it knows our whole journey, everything we've been through, and that's the personal way that I gauge all my choices and decisions as I feel into that inner knowing.

Speaker 2: 17:54

And I don't know the answer that's going to come from anyone else's inner knowing and because I don't know what their life and their journey has been like. So, yeah, that's what I always advocate for is, and this is what I help people do I help people listen to that authentic place within themselves. Okay, like I know, and a lot of times people are sworn by thoughts and opinions and outside perspectives and I get that can feel overwhelming if there's a pattern of giving a lot of weight to outside perspectives, and I've just found in my own journey that the more I've listened to my own inner knowing, inner being, soul, spirit, whenever you want to call it is that those answers always just serve me best. They always just serve me best. And they do know the whole equation. They do know all of my elements and aspects of my current life situation, everything I've been through, and so I personally seek for guidance from that, and so that's what I just encourage others to do too.

Speaker 2: 18:55

It's okay, I know there's a lot of maybe opinion opinions around you and sometimes I help people just so they can relax and calm and really just I've had a lot of practice helping people, helping people move into their heart and when they're in their heart. What I have observed is that the answer is usually very simple. It's usually just like a yes or no. And so, whatever the question is, is this right for me in the heart, when people are really in that simple place like I just observe for myself and from others, they'll just they'll feel, like feel, but here, no, it's not right for me. Or, yeah, this is okay, at least for right now, this is okay, and so that's why I and this is what I find myself, echoing what you've said like when I hear, when I hear people in my life trying to tell everyone else what they should do, like I have the same thing, I'm like how would you know? You don't know what it's like to walk 10 steps in their shoes.

Speaker 1: 19:52

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Speaker 1: 20:46

Now back to the interview. This was even 30 years ago. I want so bad to be skinny that I would probably take the drug. Because I want so badly to be thin, because I want to fit in, I want to look good, I want to have that experience. So is that wrong? I don't know. Who am I to judge that person? 30 years ago that was a different person, and now people today who have serious health issues and they're attributing it to their weight and they're weighing the pros and cons of taking the drug. And today, now, like you said, I would go within and ask my inner being or just feel into it what feels right, not intellectualize it. Yeah, I would go by my intuition, yeah, for sure. So I want to get into some of these things.

Speaker 1: 21:59

I want to talk about shame, because Oprah Winfrey started out the show talking about how she was shamed for 25 years because of her body. And the famous designer I forget his name right now, but on the cover of TV Guide was the headline and a picture of her at some war show, whatever it said bumpy, lumpy and downright dumpy. And it was about her and how she looked best dressed, worst dressed. And I just want to say that I was ridiculed, made fun of. So back then, like I remember, I wasn't asked to be in one of my best friends' weddings as a bridesmaid and I overheard my dad say to my mom is it because of her weight? And he didn't know any better at the time. We're not educated, we're just thinking that having this extra weight is a negative, it's a bad thing. That stuck with me my whole life thinking oh yeah, see something wrong with me. I'm not pretty and I'm that. I understand that shame.

Speaker 1: 23:12

I could give so many other examples and I think that one of the good things coming out of the show is the conversation being brought to the forefront. So fat shaming maybe will become less and less as it is. I think it is now maybe not so politically correct to fat shame people Like. I remember rewatching some of the friends episodes so much fat shaming going on and all kinds of shaming about people with different sexual orientations. They got away with so much then. Times have changed. I'm happy about that, that this is bringing the conversation about fat shaming. I don't think you had too much of that fat shaming going on. Maybe it was your own self that was doing that to yourself. Like me, I did that to myself too, I was in my younger years.

Speaker 2: 24:11

I was on the opposite side of the spectrum, so I turned to what's referred to as anorexia as a coping mechanism when I was a teenager. So I was at the point where I was so thin that people were making remarks are you okay? What's, what's wrong? Something seems like there's something wrong with you and like your skin and bones type thing, and so I was getting the reflections on the other side of the spectrum. So, again, I'm not going to pretend what I, that I know what it's like to be anyone else. I will say here's the thing I've learned, though, and there were some things in the episode that stood out to me and I'm also going to add this for context that I feel, when we're young and we don't because again, we're having this metaphysical conversation I know we both have studied a lot of really amazing metaphysical teachers, and so when I look back, then I just didn't know any better. I didn't really understand how reality works, and I didn't understand that, once I accepted a perspective, that it would then be mirror back to me, because I was choosing to replay the perspective in my head, and so what's standing out to me is without knowing any better, without knowing how it works. What I see in myself, and I feel like I have observed in others, is that we just unknowingly let these perspectives in, whatever the judgment is. And once we let it in, if we do take it on as our own and we start to invest in that story because of the way reality works, we will get those reflections. And it's not to punish us, it's so that realities by basically showing us like here's the story you're telling about yourself, now again, at 1517, even 30, I had no clue, that's how it works, I do get it now. And so what I feel that I witness happening is just without knowing any better, because here's the common theme I've seen. And it comes up like, oh, I didn't even think that about myself until someone else said it. So there we go, outside perspective being projected onto someone, and what I continue to see is just innocently, we let that perspective in and something in us goes oh, maybe that's true. And so then we start telling that story, that narrative, and then we get the reflections.

Speaker 2: 26:37

And I know the reflections can feel intense and they don't feel good, but also, again, just speaking from that place of just really understanding the nature of reality. All that's really happening is reality is saying here's the story you're telling. Do you want to keep telling this story? And Again, for someone who doesn't know how reality works, I know it can be confusing. However, to me it just speaks to how powerful we are.

Speaker 2: 27:04

And Just to Again, just for anyone who is metaphysically aware, just really, I would just invite just pay attention to the Any narratives you've taken in that don't feel good, and just notice that they don't feel good. And do you want to keep telling them? Because, again, I didn't have it in terms of being overweight, but I had it in terms of being skinny. I had it in terms of my sexual orientation, had a lot of negative projections and I can tell you I Suffered greatly from the reflections about sexual orientation because I made them true for myself, I, I, I absorbed the out part, outside perspective, and I made it true for me. And that's when I began to suffer, that's when I began to feel shame, because I said, okay, I'm going to take on this perspective as my own, and then I felt shame, if that makes sense.

Speaker 1: 27:59

Yes, that makes total sense and again, that's I know. We said we wanted to do a metaphysical conversation. It is this that is a high-level Conversation, because we could go into that whole bit of. I created this mirror reflection. I created this Oprah Winfrey special myself and something to talk about so that I could do this podcast and we're creating all of it and but, to your point, we could look at that show and what feels good about that show, what doesn't feel good, and and just take what feels good and leave the rest.

Speaker 1: 28:35

There's some things they said that felt really good to me and there's some things that they said that didn't and I'm like, okay, this whole point of which I really want to get to Obesity is a disease, like one of the things Oprah said is Obesity is a disease. The American Medical Association Association declared that 10 years ago and somehow she missed that memo. I like to go Down there into that nitty gritty statement about obesity is a disease and explore a little bit how we feel about that comment, that statement. Just because the American Medical Association declared that, yes, that means it, does that mean it's true? How do you feel about the medical profession? How do I feel about obesity is a disease. I was in over readers anonymous and pretty much I think they were saying that it's not your fault. Is the comforting thought About that, it's not your fault, and that was very comforting for me when I was a young, even 19 year old. Going to over readers anonymous and hearing that it's not my fault and Whether it's a disease or not, that helped me at that point. You see, that helped me then. So if it's helping you, great to anyone's listening, if that's helping you, that's comforting you, that feels good, great.

Speaker 1: 30:02

And we're on this journey and we keep evolving, like now. If it's a disease, how come I Don't have the disease anymore and I didn't take the drug. So they're telling people that you need to take the drug and if you have the disease not you need to take it, but it will there's benefits to it Because you're helping your brain work in a way that it understands when you're full and all that kind of stuff. However, like for me and where I am now, today is a different person and I have found food, freedom and Loving my body. So I think back then I really feel like I had the disease. But when you enter a new dimension, right, those, these rules don't apply when you go into the fifth dimension, where and when I say fifth dimension, it's just a level, another level of spirituality where the rules of everyday 3d reality, the logic, the logical rules, they don't apply anymore. That's how I make sense of it.

Speaker 2: 31:19

Like it. No, I've had a lot of experience with that too. Again, just seeing how, based on the level of consciousness and that's why I'm sharing the perspectives that I am, because they just are coming from this Expanded level of consciousness it's not better than anything else, it's just it's to me. It's expanded, so it just helps me see things more clearly and just see it more. The energy that's behind all of these things, that's and, as I've seen, the energy that's behind a lot of these things that just it makes so much sense to me. And yeah, again, I would never try to tell anyone what is right for them. I would again advocate, if they're considering a choice again to feel in what feels best to you from that place of your heart.

Speaker 1: 32:00

But how do you feel about that? Maybe you're getting there, but so I hope you. City is a disease.

Speaker 2: 32:07

Yeah, so that right there, that term right there and to me implies that someone is these things. That term implies that a being, when organism, because disease is not just used for human beings, it's used for plants and other things. So to me it just that the energy behind that is there's something not at ease within that being or that person. And so what stands out to me is that I would imagine because, again, based on my own journey and just the type of Processing that I help others do that there is, yeah, there's something that's not ease within that person. That is, it's an energetic, emotional thing or maybe a number of things where you know the body is Responding to this lack of ease. So, for instance, like I I can't reference a specific study here, but I actually used to work in holistic wellness for a number of years and when I was in that realm I heard a lot of stories and again, I can't pinpoint in my memory where exactly I heard this story, but I would hear things like people that have heart attacks, like there's been these studies done, where a high percentage of people that have heart attacks are holding on to really significant grudges, like they have really strong grudges, so holding animosity towards someone, and that holding animosity creates a lack of ease, which then this word dis-ease comes in, and so the body was responding to that lack of ease.

Speaker 2: 33:38

And so I, beyond the label, I would just be more concerned, like I would just I Always go to what is at the heart of the matter, like how does this person feel about themselves? Because the label can mean any number of things, but I would just want to get to like how does this person really feel about themselves? What is, what are the stories, the emotions that are keeping them from feeling at ease? Because I've just found in my experience that when my body is at ease, like things do come into balance, things Like they just start to reorient themselves and things get healthier, because mostly the perspective on self changes. And then I want to be better to self. I'm always like what's that, what's at the core of the matter? Like how is this person feeling? That's what that word brings up for me. Like how do they?

Speaker 1: 34:25

really, I think that when you're in the rows of it, in the real mud and sludge of everyday cycle of Like for me, binging or just keep eating because you're not, the full Ness never comes.

Speaker 1: 34:48

You're 300 pounds, 400 pounds, that those extremes or even for me, 213 pounds probably was my highest and I might have gone higher because I stopped weighing myself and I'm five foot three, so it's a lot of Stuff, it's a lot of weight, it's a lot of concern, let's face it, about your health. Maybe your cholesterol is real high, your blood pressure, all these kinds of things. And then at that time in your life, a lot of times there's not a whole lot of an bandwidth To say, be all, non-less, day about it because you're in, you're so deep in it and I think it serves a purpose. For me, it's served a purpose like a spiritual purpose. A journey like now I look at it like actually my journey with my body has led me to go within eventually and really get on this beautiful journey of Raising my consciousness and all of that. However, I guess what I'm saying is when someone is in that, in the thick of it, it's hard for them to apply what we were saying, or maybe that's just a perception.

Speaker 2: 36:02

So curious, though, because again, I can reflect on what it was like for me, and that's all I really have as my own experience. I am genuinely curious. Back when it was, when it felt so thick for you Deep down, did you still know how you really felt about yourself, did you?

Speaker 1: 36:17

know, I knew that I had a lot of criticism, self-hatred, yeah, and all of that. Yeah, I knew that.

Speaker 2: 36:25

Yeah, and so that's what I mean about getting to the heart of the matter is just letting someone be honest with themselves, like why are they not at ease? And so it sounds like your answers would have been like I have a lot of criticism, I have a lot of self-hate. That, to me, would be where I would be looking is to like just help someone get clear. Okay, like you have these criticisms, you have this self-hate how does it feel? And just let them, in that moment, just sense in and what I imagine the answer might be like it doesn't feel good, but just, you know, invite them to have their own clarity Because, again, that's why I wanted to ask you if you knew how you even though it was it felt thick and complicated.

Speaker 1: 37:06

It was right there.

Speaker 2: 37:09

Yeah, that's why I wanted to ask you and you said I still knew how I feel about myself, and I'll just point back to again the anorexia. Like I, this was 25 years ago, I didn't have all this metaphysical wisdom, but I can tell you, at that time, when I chose to use anorexia as a coping mechanism, I knew exactly why. And my head I was saying I'm terrified of life and controlling food is the only thing I know how to control. So let me control something. Even though I was 15, have barely any life education, I knew that I was doing this because I was terrified of life. I knew that back then. So that's all I'm highlighting is like what is what's going on inside? Because even if I feel like we still have some clue, like I'm afraid, I'm scared, I don't feel good enough, like we know something.

Speaker 1: 38:00

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Speaker 1: 38:40

I do work with a lot of people with food issues or body issues, obviously. I say obviously, because I wrote the book and a lot of my work is around that Helping people learn how to love their bodies and I knew what I was feeling. But I experienced that a lot of people really it's all over the spectrum. Maybe they know, maybe they're not in touch at all with what they're feeling. I use the malice method to help them get in touch with exactly what you're saying. Get in touch with what they're feeling, because the food is numbing all of that. In my opinion. The food that's what I use it for and I know that's a lot of people are using, just like they use food, just like they use alcohol, just any other self-medication, gambling, sex, whatever we're using it in, I would say most cases to numb, because we're either terrified of life or we have this self-criticism going on in my case and a lot of other people's cases. So it's just like, on one hand, you're aware of the self-criticism and, on the other hand, you just want to numb it and not feel it. And that's my experience with working people. And so I love the calibration method to help people, to your point, feel what they're feeling and start to let that energy move through your body so that you can then calibrate yourself and start experiencing amazing emotions or better, not amazing, maybe just a little bit better, just maybe a little bit of relief.

Speaker 1: 40:18

And I tell you, timothy, sometimes I'm working with someone and they get to just a feeling of calm, that's it. And they're like I haven't felt calm since I was a little girl. I haven't felt this. I can't even remember. And yeah, I love that when hmm, it's so interesting when we begin to look at or feel into what are we feeling, even if it is self-discussed. Start there and let's calibrate that to just a little bit of calm and then you can go from there and go from there and start, and maybe you want to take this medication while you're doing this and maybe you're like I would never do that. That is Satan. I would never do that. I don't want to take big farm, I don't want to feed big farmers, pockets and all that kind of stuff. So you could totally be on that side of the opinion that this stuff is all really bad for society and just lining the pockets of Oprah Winfrey and big farmer. Or you could be open to allowing people to choose for themselves, respecting other people's journey.

Speaker 2: 41:57

Yeah, again, we don't know. We don't know the path of another and everything's just an option. As far as I'm concerned, there's a multitude of possibilities. At any given point there may be like two that someone's considering, and again, only they know what it's like to be them, only they know their journey up into this point. And I've just found in my experience that my inner being, or my soul, has a response to everything, to every question, and that's what I have learned to listen to Now.

Speaker 2: 42:31

Earlier in life I didn't know how to listen to that, so I would make choices that you could have said weren't in my highest alignment, and those were still valid choices and I learned from those experiences. I'm just saying that wherever, because the other thing that's important to me is maybe not everyone is aware where they're making their decisions from. Maybe it's from outside pressure, maybe it's from fear, maybe it is from wanting to be in control. But even if someone's making a choice from those energies and I'm not judging those energies or saying they're wrong, but even if they're making a choice from those energies, I would imagine along their life journey they'll just learn whether that choice is really truly their preference or not, because they'll just see how it plays out and they'll see if it's a fit for them or not. I have found, personally, when I really tune into my inner being, the answers are simple and those choices do work out for the best.

Speaker 2: 43:26

And so, again, we never even know what place someone is making a choice from. Are they trying to please other people? Are they giving into pressure? And again, wherever they're making it from, it's not right or wrong.

Speaker 2: 43:39

They're going to learn on their path, just as we've all learned along our path, and I would say it's all facilitating getting to better know ourselves, because all the times I did things out of peer pressure, I learned in a matter of time that those didn't feel very good long term, which helped me get to better know myself. And so that's why I feel like lifting any judgment or shaming, because, again, we really, unless we're really with someone and willing to open our hearts and listen, we really have no clue where they're coming from, and I do feel it's really for me beautiful just to be like I don't know where they're at, I don't know what place they're choosing from, because I know no matter what, they're going to learn on their path and most likely, whatever they're choosing is going to ultimately lead them to more of their own truth, so I'm just more of. However someone learns and goes along their path to get to their own truth, let it be what it is. Respect the other's journey, because yes.

Speaker 2: 44:45

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 44:46

Respect their journey. And I will say one of the things that was said on the show that did trigger me a little and again, this is just my own thing is that once you start taking the drug, then you have to take it for the rest of your life, Otherwise all the weight will come back. And I thought to myself ooh, why would you be telling people that? Because we're getting our stimulus from outside ourselves, and then taking that on as a new belief that I okay. So now this is my new belief, that I need to be on this drug for the rest of my life, because that's what the scientists say, that's what the data shows. The data shows that if you get off the drug, you shall and we know better you and I operating out of, not where logic rules. That's where metaphysics is not based on logic. It's based on law of attraction and we create our own reality and anything's possible, Not logical. So if I go on the drug, say tomorrow, and then the doctor tells me I need to be on it for the rest of my life, that's not necessarily true in my mind. The doctor tells you one thing, but he's dealing with science and logic. I'm dealing with metaphysics. All things are possible and as other people would say, but you're not in reality, you're not giving me realistic solutions.

Speaker 1: 46:21

My daughter's saying that to me now. She'll ask me for advice and then I'll give her metaphysical advice and she'll say I want some real, realistic, reality based advice, mom. And meanwhile she knows about the law of attraction. I raised her on it. But now she's saying so okay, respect her journey, that's fine. My advice is to just see it as already done and then it'll just rise up to meet you. That's my advice and she's oh God, can I have some reality here? But however, metaphysically speaking, if a doctor tells me I need to be on this for the rest of my life, do I really? I can say thank you, yes, Thank you. Can I have my prescription and then just know that anything's possible? And the reason I could say that is because, for sure, I. If this is a disease, obesity I had it, and I'm using past tense because I was addicted to food, obsessed with food, and I no longer am. So I know it's possible, Anything's possible. I know it because I'm not the same person as I was.

Speaker 2: 47:42

I was just going to say for me, I would phrase it as I know what I prefer. I've had enough life experience to know what I prefer, know which options I prefer, because I don't see it as anything's better than anything else. It's. I see, based on my study of metaphysics and the information that I channel, I just see that this life is all about preference. So, rather than learning what's better than something else, it's just which. Do I prefer more? What is my preference? And again, that's going to be unique to me as opposed to anyone else. So I just know what I prefer and again, what someone else prefers, like if someone is okay with doing something for a very long time, like again, who am I to say that is their path, their journey? I just know what I prefer. And one thing I wanted to mention is that, again, because we are this is metaphysics we're playing with is that there's a statement I love that says that many things are true based in the dimension, based in the dimension of consciousness. They are in. So, as we know and again, this is no judgment, this is not higher or better, this is just different experiences, as we know, in the third dimension, it's separation. Most people that talk about the third dimension refer to it separation. So there are many beliefs in the third dimension which do feel true and which people will adhere to because they do feel true. That's just that experience of reality, and it's fine, is what it is. It's not lower or less than anything else. It's just that what that experience is.

Speaker 2: 49:19

So, yes, people like you and I that had this curiosity that led us to ask really big questions, and by asking big questions of existence we summon new information. We're having a different experience of consciousness more and more of the time, where things that feel limiting, it just stands out to us. We're like whoa. That feels really limiting to me. Do I really want to play into the limitation? And by the way that you talk, and obviously by the way that I talk, we're less and less interested in things that feel limiting. That's just what I would feel that you and I now prefer. We're like I don't want to limit myself. What are the feel better options? I'm going to keep searching until I find the feel better option. That's where I feel you and I are at. What just feels better I don't want to limit myself is what I feel, like you and I. That's the place you and I are at. It's just where we're at. That's all of this.

Speaker 1: 50:15

Yes, yes, yes, that's very good. I like that the way you express that. It does feel very limiting to me. Yeah, that thought of. But again, gosh, I love what you just said, because who's to say that truth is not correct? Because in this world, your world, we're each creating our own worlds and our own experiences. So in this world, this is correct. And then when you enter a new world, so to speak, which is simply a new level of consciousness, really, then this is correct or a truth, because it's a truth for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I feel like we're all on the same journey, but we're all on different parts of the journey and one part is not better than the other or more truthful than the other.

Speaker 2: 51:15

Yeah, and Earth limitation is allowed, and only again, each being can decide. What feels limiting to us might feel expansive to someone else, based on where they're at, that might feel very freeing, based on where they're at At least for now we don't know. 10 years along their journey, that choice they've been making for 10 years, something may shift within them. They may start to ask new questions of life and, based on the information they summon into their consciousness, their awareness, that choice that they've been making for 10 years may all of a sudden feel like they may just, oh, I feel like there's more, I feel like there's more options, and I don't know what they are, but I just want to be available. And so, yeah, limitation is allowed and the Earth experience, and again, we just don't know what feels like freedom for you might not even cross the radar of someone else. Something that feels limiting to you may feel like a new level of freedom for someone else. We don't know.

Speaker 2: 52:11

And again, that's why, to me, it's about just being curious and listening and just if we really want to know something, genuinely asked like how does this if it's someone that we have a relationship with and we want to get to know them better and we feel it's okay to ask the question. We feel they're open to the question. I'm just curious what is this decision, this choice, this, what is this about for you? And really listen, because then, instead of guessing and assuming and getting caught up in all the opinions in our head some time, I found a lot of times when people, when we invite them to actually share what's true for them, I found that I can be just like whoa, it's not what I thought it was at all. Like when I really hear someone else's truth and then also just be like okay, this is just their path, their journey and this is what feels good to them. So bless the journey, right, yeah.

Speaker 2: 53:02

Bless the journey so.

Speaker 1: 53:04

Yes, and I feel like there's so much chatter and judgment about Oprah Winfrey, which I'm not I'm neutral on. However, another slightly triggering thought for me. I could see where this is all going right. This is a movement. She called it a revolution.

Speaker 1: 53:21

I think what's happening, what's going to happen, what they're hoping to happen, is that the insurance companies will start to pay for this drug. Cover it, because a lot of people that want to take it aren't taking it, are not taking it because of the cost. So I could see in the future, this will be something that you can qualify for If they screen you and your health is passes, whatever tests, whatever they have qualifications. Therefore, everybody's going to be wanting it, because who doesn't want to be skinny in this society? There were people especially the first woman, amy, that Oprah interviewed, who had lost 160 pounds. She said that people were not only treating her differently, they were treating her children differently when she was in the park or in public. When she's 160 pounds heavier, people are treating her children differently as a reflection of her, and now they're nicer to her children, and I found that I don't know little discomforting, but I understand it, because of the fat shaming and the prejudice our society has against people in bigger bodies. And so again, you're 20 years old, 25 years old, you can get access to this drug now.

Speaker 1: 54:48

It's affordable because it's insured now, and so that's my own thing, right? That's my own kind of biases around. Oh, what's going to happen to these poor individuals are going to be taking these drugs for maybe the wrong reasons. Maybe they have 10 pounds to lose in their minds not my mind and so they're taking the drugs. So what? I don't even know, because that's my own thing, that's my own quote. Unquote fear that I don't want to be judgmental. However, that kind of irks me. Help me, timothy.

Speaker 2: 55:31

What I perceive is that you're looking at it from your lens and, again, all the things that you're aware of your preferences, and so, based on your, you're seeing it from your preference like I'm, hearing things like I I wouldn't because, or I don't like that, because it's not my preference, because which is fine, because they are your preferences based on everything that you've been through. Here's the thing, though every single being in existence, which includes this planet, is free to check out all the options to explore, and I feel we do get entangled when we look at a choice of another from our own lens. Because we're looking at it from our lens, we don't know the factors that are involved into why they're making that choice. We don't know where that path will lead. We really have no clue.

Speaker 2: 56:21

I just feel confident that if they do choose again, I'm just speaking from my own experience there were many times that I made decisions that weren't coming from my heart or my inner being or my soul, and they were from something else outside pressure, opinions, fear. I made plenty of choices like that in my life, and they all still served me, because they showed me what happens when I don't listen to myself, and I'm not implying that people that choose to take any pill, whatever the pill is, I'm not implying that they're making that. They're not listening to themselves. That's not what I'm saying. Again, there may be people that are weighing out this option and they're getting a bang yes, from their inner being. I don't know, because everyone's circumstances and situations are unique. All I'm saying because I feel the concern and your energy is, I feel what I'm picking up, as I feel that if they do this, it might lead to that and that doesn't feel very good for me.

Speaker 2: 57:21

All I'm saying is that if person A does choose this and it does lead to that kind of what you think may happen, I would just imagine that they'll learn from that and they'll just somewhere along the way, they'll say this isn't what I thought it was. I don't like the results that I'm getting. So you know what, now that I know a little bit about this path that I've gone down, I'm going to say no. I'm going to say no, and I would imagine that would lead, in one way, for them to get more clear than themselves and learn to listen, because some people do go. You know what I hear. This said a lot. Some people say oh, I don't really have access to my intuition. But then a lot of people will say, if I look back, there was that voice telling me, like, don't do it. So a lot of people, even though they say they don't have a good connection to their intuition, they will still say things like oh, I knew better and it felt, it felt off something about it felt off, it wasn't 100%, hell yes.

Speaker 2: 58:25

Yeah, so I get your concern. I just feel confident that everyone's free. Everyone's free to choose and if, for some reason, they are making a choice that maybe, let's say, is not really the choice that they're getting from their inner being, if that happens to be the case, whatever it is, I'm not just talking about like hills, I'm talking about anything. If they're coming from not, let's say, their inner being's perspective, I still feel that they're going to learn along the way. They're going to learn about themselves and they're going to have experience, because, look, now you're speaking from your experience. I learned about metaphysics, I learned about changing my thoughts and beliefs, having a whole different experience. You can only say that because you've gone down these avenues, these paths, and now you have life experience. That, to a lot of people, feels exciting, because you're talking about how you stopped limiting yourself. You only know because you went down those paths, and so I'm just offering that every path offers something, if that makes sense.

Speaker 1: 59:26

Yeah, thank you. That really does make sense and it really does feel good. Thank you for that, because that really was bothering me about it One thing about it, and there could be a lot of other things that are bothering people about it. Obviously, there's a lot of different opinions about all of this and charged emotions. So let's listen to Timothy and just know that it's all going to work out. People have their own inner beings and they're going to be okay and just like I think about my kids and I'm always not always, but there's certain things worrying about them a little bit here, a little bit there and just knowing that's their path and it's all going to, it's all for their highest good and I don't have to sit there and worry about their well-being all the time. That's not helpful to anybody. So let me see where oh my gosh we should have a part two on this. I still got a bunch of cards here but.

Speaker 1: 1:00:28

I think we talked about the things that I really wanted to talk about, which was mainly not judging other people's journeys and allowing other people to make their own choices following their own inner being, and really what you just said about other young people's journeys if they get into this weight loss drug, that, oh, it's not the end of the world. They could go off of it. Their guidance might guide them to get off the drug. Stay on the drug. It's their journey, not yours.

Speaker 2: 1:00:59

Yeah, and I just feel that, again, just based on the way that you, what I know about you and what you've shared, that I feel that people like you and I are in the place of.

Speaker 2: 1:01:08

If someone said to us what do you think I should do, I feel like someone like you and I would be like, actually, what do you feel is right for you in this scenario? And you and I have learned effective ways to help someone guide themselves into their inner being. And so, to me, it's not about what do I think about a, what do I think about B? All that really matters to me is that someone what feels what my preference is, what feels better to me is that someone is learning how to listen to their most authentic truth, and so I'm just like what does the deepest part of you have to say about this? And if you're open to it, I know techniques that may be able to help you get into that clarity more, as I know you do. So I'm less about if someone says what do you think about A? What do you think about B? I'm just like it doesn't even matter. Everyone's free. They get to decide for themselves. So all that really my preference is are people listening to themselves.

Speaker 1: 1:02:07

Yes.

Speaker 2: 1:02:08

That's what matters to me.

Speaker 1: 1:02:09

Yeah, and that sounds like I'm plugging my book, but that's what my whole book is about. It's like going within, and then there's 25 stories of women who learned how to love their bodies, and it's the stories are all about how they went within and found what felt better, what was the right path for them, and it's constantly unfolding and evolving. Yeah, and each woman's story is different. One does keto, one does this, one does intuitive eating, one does nothing, one is just going within. So it's not necessarily that they found a diet. They each found their own. Maybe some of them did find their own, found weight watchers. It's really such a individual journey.

Speaker 2: 1:02:59

Oh yeah, absolutely yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:03:02

Thank you again so much for meeting with me, Timothy, and just tell people how they quickly, how they can find you.

Speaker 2: 1:03:10

Yeah, so I'll send you my Snip Feed link and so basically it's just one link that leads to the menu of all my things my sessions and services, my podcast Like I do have a free 30 minute consultation available my social it's all covered in this one menu. It's called a Snip Feed link, so I'll send that over to you.

Speaker 1: 1:03:28

They can find you on Facebook Are you on. Instagram.

Speaker 2: 1:03:33

It's at self love with Tim.

Speaker 1: 1:03:35

Yeah, okay, that's easy At self. Love with Tim.

Speaker 2: 1:03:39

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:03:39

And I'll put that link in the show notes so people can find you. Yeah, yeah, thank you so much, timothy. I really appreciate this conversation.

Speaker 2: 1:03:49

Well, thank you for having me. It's been an honor.

Speaker 1: 1:03:53

You're welcome. Yeah, it was like an hour and a half almost. Yeah, we could talk more about it for sure, but yeah, that is awesome. I'm passionate about this topic.

Speaker 2: 1:04:10

Yeah, it is multifaceted in the sense that, yeah, based on which dimension of consciousness you're looking at it from, I feel like you'll get a different response. If you're looking at it from the right and wrong, that brings up a whole set of ideas, whereas to me that's why I was just advocating freedom. I don't know, it's whatever's right for them. That to me is more like the fifth dimensional, and so it's. And that's why I pointed out too, for instance, for your daughter, if she let's just say that some of the things that still work for her, like her third dimensional, no judgment, that's not wrong. That's why, when you're presenting fifth perspectives, that's just A and B wavelength, because she's just interested in this way of exploring life and so it's fine that you offer. But that's just why I would imagine she's just some no, like I'm over here exploring this way, so not really meshing. And it's okay because we all get to explore how we choose to right.

Speaker 1: 1:05:12

Yeah, yes, there was a time when she was open to those conversations and just like reading the room, just knowing you know they're not interested in that perspective and not back off. I don't usually bring it up with people unless I know they're. We've had similar conversations and they're in the same like-minded kind of conversations and beliefs. But yeah, I don't just dump that on other people, but she's very familiar. She was asking me for advice about asking for a raise. She has her six month review and she wants to ask for a raise. So I was like, oh goodie, just okay, this is what you do. You just like visualize and you see it is already done. You prepave it. Oh my God, mom, stop, I just want some realistic advice. Oh, okay, all right, just Google it. Then I don't know. It's been so long since I've been in the corporate world that having to ask for a raise I don't know and I just so. Then I gave her some tips, but basically I would have to research it.

Speaker 2: 1:06:30

Yeah, this is just where your mom comes from these days, the realm your mom operates in.

Speaker 1: 1:06:39

Yeah, she doesn't know, because I don't really talk about it that much anymore, because I've really gone to the fifth dimension and it's just very different yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:06:51

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I can tell it's very. It's just based on the energy I felt from when I first watched it. But then also I saw that your post got a lot of comments really fast. What this is to me, just what I see. I feel like I see a lot of people are still just caught up and right and wrong, yeah, and even judgment, because it's Oprah's free to live this life how she wants to live this life. I mean, we don't know where Oprah's coming from and it seems like it is polarizing because a lot of people are just coming from that right and wrong. And that's why I just wanted to advocate, for we don't know what's best for anyone else. We don't know what's best for Oprah. We don't know why she's exploring the avenues that she is. We can say, based on what I see, it's not my preference, but ultimately Oprah's just as free as everybody else.

Speaker 1: 1:07:38

Yeah, and I was surprised that after that show so many people came out Whoopie Goldberg and these other people, this other lady, sonny Houston on the view, and then these other people on that thread that I posted. Oh, I'm on it and yeah, it's the best thing ever and I'm on it. So it there's so many people that are on the drug that probably didn't feel comfortable saying they're on the job, and now they are. So again to your point who's to judge what's right for them or wrong, or who's to judge at all?

Speaker 2: 1:08:23

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:08:24

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:08:25

Yeah, whatever that path looks like for each person, because it'll be different for each person, like 10 steps, 20 steps, a million steps down the path. That may change for some people, other people may. Just some people may be like oh, I don't mind the side effects, we don't know. Again, our preferences can be a million miles away from someone else's.

Speaker 1: 1:08:42

So like how can we really say yeah, it's, you're going for the what feels better, the relief and I even heard someone share that I don't know if I would if I don't say the person's name that they got some coaching from a high level channel. They got conflicting feedback from two different channels, like one channel saying, oh, but you're still going to have to deal with this vibrationally, and then another channel saying, no, you're, this is your intuition, this felt better to you.

Speaker 2: 1:09:17

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:09:19

And so no, just do what feels better Period. And they were soothing this person and so it's just again. You'll get different. Even within channels, you can get different perspectives.

Speaker 2: 1:09:36

Yeah, I think it was. Yeah, you asked Oprah and Oprah did say it's situational, based on it's based on who's summoning and what moment they're summoning from, and I can see how. I can see how and from my perspective, both can be true, because one can be like, if it feels better for now, just okay, it feels better for now, who's to say what's down the road? So I can see that. But then also they did say in the special that if people come off of this, let's things just go back to the way they were. And so to me that does.

Speaker 2: 1:10:11

To me, the only reason it's working is because people believe that it will, like they have a really dominant belief that this will work. But they're like you said, they're giving power to something outside themselves. The story is, if I put this thing in, I'll get the result I want, and because that's their belief, that's what they get. But along with that belief is, if I don't have this, then things go back to the way they were. And so that's to me why I was saying, if we're talking about dis-ease, to me it's a lack of ease.

Speaker 2: 1:10:39

So I personally, based on what I've seen and lived, would want to ask okay, what's going on the inside, because I would imagine that everyone has a story and a story about why they don't feel good, which can cause all kinds of reactions in the body.

Speaker 2: 1:10:58

But then I was also reflecting on it, like even in, because Abraham would say that everything starts with the thoughts. And so when you look at some of these situations and I was reflecting on my own life experience a lot of these children, even in the specials the first girl her mother said I have struggled with weight my entire life. So as a kid we are very impressionable. We pick up on the thoughts that our parents and what our parents are saying. I took on a lot of guilt and shame about things from less than five based on what my parents were saying and they created, because I was picking up on the thoughts and the vibrations and part of me was like a big part of this, why the daughters having these experiences could be the thoughts that she picked up from her mother and she started to-.

Speaker 1: 1:11:43

Yeah, I had the same thought, yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:11:45

Yeah, like she started telling the same, whether it's I'm overweight or I can't stop eating, and so it is a high level. Look at it. But it's like to me. I'm like we don't know that it's happening. As kids, again, we're innocent, but we are picking up these stories and we are picking up from our parents and taking on those energies. To me it is freeing if we can get to a point where we can see that this is the story I tell. So this is the reflection I get, but also I feel like to get there, your defenses have to be done. You have to be willing to see that you're the creator.

Speaker 1: 1:12:18

Yeah, yeah. And to your point that it works because you believe it works, that's another aspect to it and so great, that's wonderful, like this works because I believe it works. So who cares if it works? And it's bringing you relief and more enjoyment of life and all those things. And I also remember in Alenon.

Speaker 1: 1:12:47

I would go to Alenon at some point in my younger years as a daughter of an alcoholic father and just. I would even go to some AA meetings too and they would say that it's a progressive disease. So if you stop drinking, let's say, and then the moment you pick it up, it's going to be worse than before because it's progressive. And then overeaters anonymous would say the same thing in relation to food that once you go back to eating, all those things are they were like really this is a long time ago no white flour, no sugar, no this and that. And once you go back to those things, it's progressive and it's going to be worse than before. And I believe that because that's what they told me. But on my spiritual journey I did not find that to be true. I found food freedom and, through my spirituality and going within, if I have sugar or white flour, now I don't go on a food binge, but I choose not to have too much of that stuff anymore because it doesn't agree with me, doesn't feel good.

Speaker 1: 1:14:17

But that's another belief that allergies, that's a whole another.

Speaker 2: 1:14:22

Yeah, a lot of these things are collective narratives and, just again, high level. The only reason we'll get a certain result is if we buy into that collective narrative. If we start telling the same narrative, we'll get a reflection of that, because this is what comes through my channel. My guides have been very straightforward. They're like it's your story, it's the story you're telling, end of story. They're like you're the narrator. So if you say this is a disease and this is the way it's going to go and this is how it's going to unfold, reality is going okay. Whatever you say boss. Whatever you say boss.

Speaker 1: 1:15:02

Here's the evidence.

Speaker 2: 1:15:04

Yeah, yeah, here's the evidence.

Speaker 1: 1:15:07

Yes, yeah. So I have that belief that certain foods don't agree with me and therefore, whatever you say, boss.

Speaker 2: 1:15:23

Yeah again, I do also feel that the body is very complex and it has a lot going on. So I do feel there is that intelligence that just in one moment it may not be right, because who knows, energetically, what the body is doing? So the body's feedback may be like not right now, but two days later. If I asked the body inner being two days later, it might be like yeah, now it's okay. To me it's just, it's always like in the moment, because I've examined that like I was gluten free for years and now there's times where I'm presented with something that feels really good that I think isn't a taste really good and it has like GMO gluten in it on the label, but I just I'm like, I just say I'm more powerful, I'm going to enjoy this and I eat it, and I just don't tell a story. I'm like I wanted that, so I had it.

Speaker 1: 1:16:16

Yeah, I love that. I love that and really there's nothing wrong either with having a belief, for, in my case, having a belief that certain foods I choose to say away from them because I have this negative reaction in my body. It doesn't feel good Totally. And nothing wrong with that. It's really about beliefs. And like I remember studying Abraham on this topic to write the book. And it's what's the path of least resistance? The path of least resistance with that belief is tuned for me not to have those foods. Yeah, totally.

Speaker 1: 1:16:57

That's the path of least, or do I want to try and change those beliefs? That doesn't feel good, that doesn't feel like the easiest path. Yeah, just working with that.

Speaker 2: 1:17:10

Yeah, that's like. What just came to me is, if you put your hand in a hot stove, you would just say that doesn't work out well for me, not a fan. So if you eat food and, like you, get a result you don't like, it's just that doesn't not a fan of that option.

Speaker 1: 1:17:26

Yeah, I really don't like those cramps in my stomach. I'm not really a fan of that. Yeah, not a fan. Yeah, exactly, all right, I'm going to try and get this out tomorrow. Okay, do my best.

Speaker 2: 1:17:45

No worries, but yeah, I know it is, I know it's charged, and I guess the reason I felt excited is that I do feel excited about bringing these metaphysical perspectives to these subjects and I know may not everyone may get it. However, you said you and I have found a lot of freedom and playing in these perspectives, and so I was just like let's see what happens if I just bring these more neutral we're all free perspectives to the subjects. So, having said that, yeah, I hope that's my, my, my intention is that people will just, you know, relax into the oh okay, yeah, we all have freedom, let's chill out.

Speaker 1: 1:18:25

Yeah, there's a lot of judgment. You hit the nail on the head.

Speaker 2: 1:18:32

Yeah, let's just chill out.

Speaker 1: 1:18:34

But for the people that this message resonates with, they'll be attracted to it and, yeah, hopefully it'll help some people. Yeah, not have so much shame around any choice that they make and that can help them with their body.

Speaker 2: 1:18:52

Yeah, exactly, yeah, cool.

Speaker 1: 1:18:55

Okay, I'll tag you when it's all ready.

Speaker 2: 1:19:00

Sounds good. Thank you again.

Speaker 1: 1:19:02

You're welcome. Thank you so much, okay.

Speaker 2: 1:19:05

No problem, all right, talk to you soon, okay, bye, bye.

Speaker 1: 1:19:09

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