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When Life Changes Your Plans – Facing Trials With Faith: Amy Walker's Story - Latter-Day Lights

• Scott Brandley and Alisha Coakley

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What do you do when unexpected events take your life in a direction you never planned?

 In this episode, Amy Walker shares how the sudden illness of her husband forced her to step into the role of taking care of and providing for her family.

With faith and determination, she turned uncertainty into opportunity, discovering that God had a unique path for her - one that blended motherhood, discipleship, and entrepreneurship in ways she never expected.

Amy opens up about the struggles of balancing faith, family, and career while battling guilt and societal expectations. Through personal revelation, she realized that success isn’t one-size-fits-all and that God qualifies those He calls—even in business. Her journey is a powerful testament to trusting in His plan, embracing our divine potential, and finding purpose in unexpected places.

This episode is more than just about business—it’s about faith, courage, and the power of personal revelation. Whether you're navigating career shifts, family responsibilities, or personal doubts, Amy’s story will inspire you to lean into the Lord, trust His timing, and step boldly into the life He’s prepared for you.

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Scott Brandley:

Hey everyone, I'm Scott Brandley.

Alisha Coakley:

And I'm Alisha Coakley. Every member of the church has a story to share, one that can instill faith, invite growth and inspire others.

Scott Brandley:

On today's episode we're going to hear how one woman's call to provide for her family showed her that the Lord will give us specific instructions on implementing the gospel in each of our lives. Welcome to Latter-day Lights. Hey everyone, welcome back to another episode of Latter-day Lights. We're so glad you're here with us today. We're really excited to introduce our special guest, amy Walker, to the show. Amy, welcome.

Amy Walker:

Thank you so much for having me. Scott and Alisha. I'm excited to be here with you and to get to have this opportunity to share a little bit about my story through the faith lens. I don't get to do that very often.

Alisha Coakley:

I know I actually first heard your story when you were on the Lady Boss Alliance seminar. It's so funny because I feel like sometimes we have we have that um, like Mormon radar right. Like we just kind of get these like little like inklings of like I think they're a member of the church and that totally just ping, ping, ping all over the place when you're speaking, and I was like I think she's a member of the church and I love her story and it just spoke so deeply to my soul and I was like I want to meet this lady one day. And lo and behold, months later, like here we are.

Alisha Coakley:

I've had several conversations with you, like the things that you've taught have literally changed my life and are continuing to change it. I never in a million years would think that I'd be where I'm at now in such a short period of time, just from like knowing one person. So I'm so excited for the rest of the world to hear you and I say world because I'm just going to go big right, like we're just going to have like a million views on this one. We're just going to do it. Let's put it out there, there you go, manifest it away, but we're so happy to have you.

Scott Brandley:

I know Alisha, you know Amy, but I don't know Amy. So why?

Amy Walker:

don't you tell us a little bit about yourself? Awesome, so I live in Georgia. We've been here for 10 years. My husband and I are about to have our 24th anniversary. He's currently serving as the bishop in our congregation, but he's about to hit his five-year mark, so yay.

Alisha Coakley:

That's nice, You're six right, Five congregation but he's about to hit his five-year mark, so yay, that's nice.

Amy Walker:

Yeah, Six right.

Alisha Coakley:

Five and a half, five and a half.

Amy Walker:

We're in the home stretch mode. We have five boys. They range in age from 11 to 22. My oldest is engaged to a super sweet girl, and it is just so fun to have another girl around the house every once in a while and be like see, it's not just me, this is like normal. We didn't think this way, so we love getting to spend time with our family. I do own several companies and our work lives are really busy, and so juggling like business and family is always a thing for us. And then our family also really loves music, so we've got some kids who are significantly more talented than we are, and there's always somebody singing or playing or doing something musical at home.

Alisha Coakley:

Aw, and not only do you own several businesses but I'm just going to give you a shout out but you teach other people how to own several businesses, don't you? Yeah?

Amy Walker:

we, we do, we help people um buy and sell companies and so, um, there's a lot of opportunity right now in acquisitions and and I just think we we need more really good people owning companies, because when you have those, you know, when you have strong values, you bring that into your organization and you create a good context for people to be successful in a in a really well-rounded environment.

Alisha Coakley:

Yeah, absolutely, and I I I mean Scott has heard, he's heard this whole journey on my end, from the time that that I met you at the Lady Boss Alliance seminar to the time that we're at now, and it is just amazing what you've taught us. We just bought our first business. I mean, my husband and I have been married for almost 20 years now. We've always wanted to be business owners, but we've always thought about, like, how do we start a business? How do you know? What should we start? What should we do? I had no idea how easy it is to just buy a business that exists. And so we're in it and I am loving it. I'm so much fun, um, and I just like, I just can't stop smiling. I'm so tired, don't get me wrong. It is so much work, but I love it and I just love what you're doing, um, with that Cause, I think that it's just like, oh, it's just like changing people's lives and it's just so good.

Scott Brandley:

So we'll talk a little bit about that later.

Alisha Coakley:

but sure, yeah, but.

Scott Brandley:

I've been. I've been an entrepreneur my whole life too, so this is going to be a fun conversation.

Amy Walker:

Yeah, we'll ping between business and family and gospel.

Alisha Coakley:

Yeah, like, how do you make it all work together? So that'll be. It's going to be a fun conversation. So, for for anybody who is an entrepreneur or a business owner or wants to be a business owner, like, stay tuned in, because I think we're just going to cover so much good stuff on living the gospel and being an entrepreneur and all the things on this episode, but we're going to get ahead of ourselves because that's not how it started, right, like you didn't start as a business owner, obviously. So we would love to turn the time over to you and just kind of have you share your story with us.

Amy Walker:

Absolutely. Well, I'm going to, I'm going to take it way back, we're going to go old school, 14 year old Amy sitting in Sunday school class and having a really sad Sunday because this lesson that we had, I remember the teacher split the board in half and one half was all of the roles and responsibilities of moms and another half was all the roles and responsibilities of dads. And I remember feeling so discouraged because I looked at that board and all of my skills and all of my talents and everything that I was actually good at fit on the wrong side of the board and everything that I was legitimately terrible at or kind of hated fit on the mom's side of the board. And I remember thinking, well, that's super disappointing. But I kind of packed it away. And then, when I was a junior in high school, all the teachers decided to send me as the ambassador for our school to this Awards for Women in Science, engineering and Math. It was the awesome symposium and so I went and we got to meet with a lot of really successful women who were in the sciences engineers, professors, scientists lots of great careers and they were there to inspire us to move our professions forward and to consider studying in those areas. And I remember asking after every class. I would go up afterwards and I would ask the question so can you tell me a little bit about your family, or how do you balance this career with kids? And I got a lot of, first of all, really surprised faces like why is this girl asking us about this? And then I got a lot of answers like, well, you know, I decided not to have kids because my career was so demanding, and or you know, I may have kids at some point in time, but there was just really there wasn't anyone there that I could see that was doing both career and motherhood. And so in my mind I was like, okay, well, I guess, I guess it can't be done.

Amy Walker:

And so I went to college and met my husband and I knew I wanted to finish my education, but I also planned to be. The plan A was that I was going to be a stay at home mom and he was going to go and get a PhD and he was going to support and provide for our family. And we jumped in early. You know I was. I was 20 when I got married. It was my junior year when I graduated. You don't see this in a lot of places but BYU. But when I graduated, I was pregnant. I was six months pregnant when I walked and we just jumped into life and we started having kids and we thought that we were moving in the plan A direction and then all of a sudden it was like the Lord said nope, there's a different plan for you guys.

Amy Walker:

And so I was about six weeks, maybe even a month it was real close to when I had my second baby that my husband was having some pretty serious health problems and overnight, um, I became the provider because he was not able to work. And he wasn't able to work for a couple of years, like in between babies two and three, um, I was the sole provider. And so I was running a couple of different businesses and, um, you know, just doing the entrepreneurial hustle and it was hard and it was stressful. And during that time I kept thinking I'll just do this until you know, until he can get back in and his health things are sorted out. And I remember during that time even having a conversation with my uncle and he said you know, amy, it's fine for you to work, for your family to get by. It's just not okay for you to work, for your family to get ahead.

Amy Walker:

And I remember in that moment being like, oh, that's the false belief that is making this so hard for me, because I felt so much guilt and I felt so much um. I felt so torn between two different things of like, I need to, I legitimately need to provide for my family right now. But also every time I am providing for my family, I'm also feeling guilty, like I'm not, I'm not in the right place, and so every time we would start to really get successful, I would put on the brakes and slow it down, and then we would be like, oh, now we need money again, so now I have to work extra hard. And so it was the start stop thing that was really hard for my family, because we couldn't get into a rhythm and they didn't know what to expect from me and you know, my kids were small, and so at that point I kind of leaned into well, if this is the path that the Lord has for me, then I'm going to try to run it as best I can and just have faith that he's going to show us what balance looks like, he's going to show us the right way, and so from that point forward, I've always worked and I've always been either the main provider or an equal contributor.

Amy Walker:

And it was hard, like I remember, especially during my pregnancies, there was a lot of times where I would just feel like a little bit almost resentment would creep in, where I would feel like I shouldn't be having to work. You know, I should be able to just take care of my kids and just do all of these things that I'm doing at home. And I knew motherhood was so valuable that I battled that a little bit. And I remember, specifically when I was pregnant with my fifth, feeling like I was struggling in that space and the Lord reminded me one day. He prompted me to go read the proclamation for the family and I was like I'm not reading that. That's the thing that makes me feel bad in the first place.

Amy Walker:

So, it kept coming into my mind and as I read the proclamation for the family, you know, and I finally humbled myself to be like, okay, I'm ready to listen to what you have to tell me. I read it and I was like there are so many ways that you can structure and align your family and still believe and honor all of these principles. And as I read it I was like we're doing everything that's in here and it looks different for our family than maybe it looks for somebody else's family. But, um, we've always, we've always been committed to our roles as um husband and wife and we've always been committed to our family and our roles of mother and father and, um, you know, we we do teach our children in love and righteousness and we are um supporting each other as um equal, um partners and all, all of the language that's in there.

Amy Walker:

But it didn't fit what I was seeing culturally and it wasn't until I finally kind of let go of what. You know. What does this need to look like? Um, culturally? And and embrace like the Lord has a clear and specific plan for our family that I really started to see all of the magic that he was working in his, in our lives and my husband and I have been able to run businesses together and we've been able to have some really cool experiences with our kids and we get to serve in ways that, um, you know, we wouldn't be able to serve if we hadn't had the experiences that we've had.

Amy Walker:

And even you know, I I just spent I've spent about seven years serving in state. Communications just got released, um, but you know, like I, I learned all of the skills of PR and marketing and community outreach and how to be confident walking into rooms with government leaders and officials. I learned all of those skills through my business training and then I got to use them to really serve in the church for seven years. So I know that the Lord has me on a path that's very clear and specific for me, um, and I, just as he does for each of you, but sometimes we just have to have a little more, a little more faith in the process, I think.

Alisha Coakley:

Wow.

Alisha Coakley:

So you know, and when I am totally with you on like that guilt, that that we feel, as women, right For, like, being away from the family to provide and to make the family life like financial life better and easier and things like that, and wanting to give our kids more opportunities, and blah, blah, blah, and feeling like we have to be with them 24, seven, like we can't have anything else, that's just ours, otherwise that's selfish, and we also can't have something that's supposed to be our husbands, because then we're stepping into his territory and taking it away from him and so it gets really, really difficult. Um, but I think that, uh, especially now in this day and age, with, like you just, oh, my goodness, you have the divorce rate is creeping up. You have men and women, both, who are not stepping into their roles and so, like you're seeing both sides having to take on responsibilities from the other traditional role, and then you also have, um, just, I mean gosh, like I can't tell you how many friends and even family members of mine I've had who their spouse has passed away, and then all of a sudden they're, they're like, what do we do at this point? And how do we? How do we do both and how do we be the provider and the nurture and all that kind of stuff? And so I think that that the Lord really is kind of shifting everybody to to be more spiritually in tune so that we can receive that personal revelation.

Alisha Coakley:

I love how, you know, that's one of the things that we were counseled by President Nelson a few years back in conference was, you know, he's saying that like we're not going to be able to survive spiritually if we don't know what that sounds like to have the Holy Ghost speak to us individually, you know, and so I love that, like you were able to do that. But I'm sure even that I guess, like, what were your conversations with your husband?

Amy Walker:

Like, because was he feeling the same thing, with him not being able to work or that was super hard and that was like a two year window where he wasn't able to work and he still, you know, he took kids back and forth to preschool and he helped a ton, he supported me a ton in me being able to be the provider during that and other than that he's always worked. But his role is oftentimes more of a supportive role in the business and super important. But it is funny because when people meet us in business versus when they meet us in church, there's a really different impression. You know, like when they meet us in business they they are like, oh Amy, like she's the one that is, you know, the speaker and she and I'm I'm oftentimes in the forefront and he'll kind of hang out in the background in the supporter role. But in church it's often opposite and so you know, he's the one that's been serving as our bishop and before that he was on the high council and so he goes around and speaks and I get to be in that supportive role.

Amy Walker:

And I think this is one thing that I've had to shift our perspective around, because I think as women, oftentimes we feel like asking for our family to support us in our dreams is somehow selfish or we don't want our dreams and our family to support us in our dreams is somehow selfish, or we don't want to. We don't want our dreams and our goals to inconvenience anyone. But guess what? Everyone in my family has dreams and goals and they're all inconvenient to me, right? The amount of hours that I've spent, you know, we've spent shuffling kids back and forth so that they can pursue their dreams, and the amount of Saturdays that we've driven to different cities to go listen to them do competitions. That's not convenient, but the way that we've approached it is that everybody's dreams and everybody's goals are important and as a family, we sacrifice to do the things that are important for each of us. So I have not been shy in asking for my family's support and asking for them to sacrifice to support me. But I'm also not saying that my stuff is the most important stuff. It's just important. My stuff is important, your stuff is important and together we're a family, we're going to figure out how we can support each other. We're a family, we're going to figure out how we can support each other. And so, um, that's been a shift.

Amy Walker:

That and when I, when I recognize that I was like you know what? That is the best way that I think I can actually raise sons to be really good husbands is to let them practice supporting me instead of to have the the one woman in their life Cause they don't have sisters, you know but the one woman in their life, just everything for them, and set that as the expectation. And I have one that's engaged, but just I've watched the way that they're planning their lives together and he really is accommodating her plans and making his plans fit with her plans and figuring out what their lives are going to look like, instead of just saying, well, this is what I'm doing and Kylie gets to come along and support me. It's like her goals are on an equal playing field with his, and that has been really wonderful and beautiful to see, because I think it makes for a happy life, and I do know that it is. I watch this sometimes as um.

Amy Walker:

I see husbands struggle when their wife starts to earn more money than them or she starts to have success that maybe looks different than what theirs is looking like, and and I think you can be jealous of your partner, but I will tell you, I've never seen a woman outgrow her husband when the husband just gives her space to grow Right, like if he just is like I want. And that's how my husband is for me and I know, alisha, your husband is great like that too. And Scott, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt. I know we just met, but I'm assuming. But I just think when you give your partner, when, when what you really want for your partner is for them to be able to be their best and happiest and highest self, like that only blesses you Right.

Amy Walker:

And so my husband has given me a lot of space to grow and to stretch and to do things that are hard and look crazy on the surface, but he's always been willing to support me and, as a result, I'm happier, I'm more settled, I'm more grateful for him. I don't feel like it pulls. I don't feel like being my best self ever pulls me away. I do feel like there are times where I have to really assess my balance and look at it and say, okay, we got too much going on right now and we need to simplify. That absolutely happens. And living a balanced life does not mean that you're always perfectly balanced. It means that you're always committed to balance and then you're course correcting when you get off, and we definitely have to do a lot of that because we have a very busy family and everybody has a million things going on.

Alisha Coakley:

So how does that look for you, like, how do you maintain balance, especially, especially with being, you know, such an entrepreneur and a businesswoman and a speaker and all of these things, and being able to incorporate time serving and living the gospel and teaching the gospel to your children, and then just being a wife, and then being just you, amy, the woman who is just a woman with awesome glasses and friends, and all the things like how do you do that?

Amy Walker:

I do actually have some tips on this. So I, you know, I had a little bit of a unique situation growing up where I actually had like four different women figures that I got to watch raise us for a while. So my mom and dad got divorced when I was 12 and we lived with my dad, and so I had my mom for the first 12 years, and then my aunt and uncle moved in with us for a little while while they were building their house, and so then I got to see my aunt and got to watch her and how she showed up as a mom, and then my grandma also lived with us for about a year, and then my dad got remarried and I had my stepmom, and so I had four very different women that I got to have as role models, and they were each really great at different things. You know, my grandma was the ultimate homemaker. She could cook anything, she could sew anything, um, and she was very like resourceful. My mom was fun and she was playful and, um, she like really uh, made the house a place that we wanted to bring our friends to. Um, my aunt was, uh, intuitive and emotionally connected and the kind of person who you could just talk to and go really deep with. And then my step-mom was, um, like, uh, so good at uh again, homemaking, like cooking and baking, and making every party and every birthday feel special.

Amy Walker:

And so when we first got married, I kind of took the best of everyone else and set that as my standard of what it meant to be a good wife and a good mom. It's like, well, they're all like and it was the best of everyone else. And while that was great and I respect and admire all of those things, none of those were actually what my skills were. And so I felt for several years really pulled and like I didn't feel like I was as successful in business as I wanted to be. Um, I didn't feel like I was as good of a wife as I wanted to be. I didn't feel like I was as good of a wife as I wanted to be. I didn't feel like I was as good of a mother as I wanted to be.

Amy Walker:

And so I, through a lot of prayer and a lot of the Lord teaching me, I actually one day wrote down my job description for being a mom and for being a wife and I changed my perception from what everybody else was good at to like what had the Lord actually given me in terms of my gifts and my talents. And so I and you know, by this point I'd been an entrepreneur for quite a while, and so I actually wrote out a job description. So I wrote out, like here's my title, my title is mother. I wrote out what department am I a part of? My department is eternal progression and growth. Who do I report to? I report to God. Who do I consult with? I consult with my husband. Um, I consult with my dad. I have, you know, a small handful of people that I really respect, who they are as parents. I consult with them.

Amy Walker:

And then I wrote down what are my actual responsibilities, and it was to teach my children to love to work and to work at what they love. To teach my children faith and values, to teach my children to live outside of the box of societal expectations, to teach my children compassion and respect, to play and have fun, to honor who they are as individuals and to help them develop their strengths and their skills and to love them unconditionally. And then I wrote down what are my qualifications, and this was really great, because so much of how I'd been judging myself was based on things like, um, you know, my like I was, I was equating the role of being the household manager with being the mother, and there are actually two really different roles. And for our family, household manager with being the mother and they're actually two really different roles and for our family, household manager is a shared responsibility. It's not my job, it's the family's job. But mother, that's my job.

Amy Walker:

And um, and I also had this long list of things that you know I was trying to, I was always feeling unqualified, um, like I wasn't doing a good job. So I actually wrote down the qualifications. So here's mine. I am actually really patient. I do love them unconditionally. I partner with God to make the best decisions for my kids. I am fun and playful and they're mine, like the Lord gave them to me. So obviously I'm qualified. And then my duration of employment. So this is, this is an eternal role that I get to have and get to share with them.

Amy Walker:

And so when I, when I shifted that and I really like took a stand for who is the mother that I, that I am and that I want to be, then it was like, okay, I can lean into this. So I do have really good relationships with my kids and we have very deep conversations and I get to go through life with them and I'm I feel like I. My kids know that I'm there for them, and yet I'm not at every single thing, so I'm at most of the things I'm at. Anything that they tell me is important to them, that they want me to be at, I will be there, but I do miss some things and and that's okay, nowhere on my job description does it say that I have to be at every single sporting event, every single music event, every single class event, every you know like. That's not in my job description, and so when I look at my life and I look at you know what we're trying to fit in. Then I can look at it and assess are these things in alignment with my core roles or are these things that are extra and they're nice and I love being there to support my kids? I really do.

Amy Walker:

I try to be at as much stuff as possible, but when I miss it, I don't beat myself up for the fact that I miss it, because my kids know that they're my priority, they know that I'm there for them, they know that I'm someone who they can depend on and that if they have needs, like I will, I will jump in and I will take care of whatever, whatever they need and what that support is going to look like. But at the same time, they're you know I'm, I'm. My goal is to raise independent people, um, who can handle life on their own, and so they've gotten to learn independence and skills, as they've supported me in being very busy and supported their dad and having a big responsibility and a big calling. So it's interesting.

Amy Walker:

I don't know that people, I think from the outside, might look at it and I have no idea what their opinions are of us. I don't know if they look at us and go well, they really have it all together or if they look at us and they go. I can't believe they're not at more things I don't know. I don't ask. It doesn't matter to me what they think. What matters to me is what the people within the walls of my home think, and we know that we love each other and we know that we're growing, Um, and we're not perfect, um, we definitely are just always trying to be a little better.

Alisha Coakley:

Just love each other a little more, be a little better. I'm a big fan of your resume. I love the job description Like that's genius.

Amy Walker:

I really like it was my time, it was like, and I am qualified to live my own life.

Scott Brandley:

That feels good. I haven't done. I haven't done that for a resume, but I've done that for my funeral and I wrote down all the things that I wanted people to talk to say about me when I died. That was an interesting exercise. That is interesting.

Amy Walker:

I.

Scott Brandley:

I love I that you are an entrepreneur and I love that you're trying to balance, you know, work with family and uh and spirituality. Do you see um like what? How do you see the youth of today and and um, how they view being? You know women being in the workplace? Do you think that those traditional views have kind of relaxed a little bit just with kind of the world we live in now?

Amy Walker:

You know, it's interesting because, even like and this was 10 years ago, but 10 years ago I read an article in Utah that 85% of women in Utah work while their children are at home 85%. This was 10 years ago, and when I read that I was like, oh okay, I get this. Like we are at some point or another, we're jumping in. And so my advice to all young women is make sure you have something to jump into. That's not a terrible paycheck and terrible hours and no flexibility. If you're 85% likely that you're going to be working at some point or another, you might as well have a really good backup plan. So I don't know if every.

Amy Walker:

I do still think that there are a lot of, because, as I've worked with youth in the church, I think that there are a lot of uh, cause, as I've worked with youth in the church, I think that there's a lot of young women who do value motherhood, but I think that they're also looking at it saying I'll probably also need to be working, I'll probably also need to have an education, and so I think that when you look at today's um younger couples, their, their roles, tend to be pretty balanced, like you've got dads who are really leaning in and loving sharing those parenting roles and sharing the mental load of running the house. So I do think it is shifting generationally, but I don't think that means that we're not honoring and respecting our roles of, you know, the the husband being the provider and the protector and the mom being, um, the nurturer and the caregiver. I think you can still have those roles and have the actual uh checklist of to-do items be a little bit more balanced.

Scott Brandley:

Well, and having that as a backup only makes that person better.

Amy Walker:

Yeah.

Scott Brandley:

Right. Even if the girl or the young woman never actually goes into the workforce, she's got the skills to do it if she needs to, and it helps her when she has kids to be able to be in a better place to be ready to help them be in a better place to be ready to help them when I was in BYU.

Amy Walker:

At BYU I was taking an econ class and the professor said that you know there had been a study done that what were the two biggest predictors of success in a child's life? And number one was the mother's education. So I was like, okay, number two was the father's income. But it was mother's education, the father's income, and I really think that there is nothing bad that happens. When you are more educated, more prepared, you're going to serve better in the church, you're going to be more capable of juggling all of the things that your family has going on Like it just, it just is to me it's a good thing all around.

Alisha Coakley:

Yeah, you know I like that. I don't know why, I just had this thought. But when you mentioned just how like your husband still is a provider and stuff like that and and you still get to be a nurturer, I think sometimes we fill in the blank, right. Like we'll read the proclamation proclamation, for example and we'll be like, oh, like the husband's role is to be a provider for his family and we automatically think that means he has to provide financially for the family. But what if provider means providing strength, providing support, providing love, providing safety? You know what I mean? Like a provider of what? Like it doesn't specify exactly what in the proclamation, at least not to my memory. I'll go back and reread it again, but I don't remember it saying financial provider in the family and and it's, it's um.

Alisha Coakley:

It just makes me think of, like my own patriarchal blessing, where my blessing literally tells me that I part of my mission in life, outside of raising a family and righteousness and stuff like that and beating being a leader, um is to um, prepare to provide for my family, and I always read that as a oh, my gosh, what it's like is my husband going to die and then I have to go back to work, you know. And then I thought, oh, you know what it does say prepare to provide. It doesn't necessarily mean like I have to be the only person that's providing, but maybe I do need to be a part of it. So I need to take it more seriously and not um, and not just settle into only one role as a wife or a mom. I need to keep educating myself and my education is not formal Like I. I I love when people do have formal education for me. I have found personal, more like, personally, more value in educating myself on all sorts of things instead of just the one college route, you know. So I have done workshops, seminars, and I have read thousands, literally thousands of books and listened to talks and I um any job that I've ever had in the past or any passion that I've had, I have like gone all in and studied up on it, and so it's like when I'm I'm a jack of all trades and a master of none type of thing, but I feel like in doing that, but I feel like in doing that, I have, as a stay at home mom, the first part of my, my marriage, I was able to be really resourceful, right Like.

Alisha Coakley:

I was able to do a lot of things and get really creative with coming up with how to solve this and how to figure that out and how to save money here, because something as simple as like I went to cosmetology school for a while. So guess what? My parent I'm like my family has not paid for haircuts in almost 20 years, minus the last few years where I just decided I don't want to anymore. Now I send the boys to the bar with my daughter's hair, and we all know women's hair is the most expensive to do so. So it's like how? How many thousands of dollars did I save my family Because I learned how to do hair? You know, um, and I love what you're saying about you took your skills and then the Lord was able to put it into your callings at church like in church, too, right. So, yeah, like we don't have to have that role.

Amy Walker:

I would love to read what it actually says in the family proclamation because I think we we should all read this more often, to be honest. So here's the part, the only part, that talks about the difference in roles between husbands and wives, and it is like a couple sentences out of the whole document. So it says by divine design, fathers are to preside over their families in love and righteousness and are responsible to provide for the necessities of life and protection for their families. Mothers are primarily responsible for the nurture of their children. In these sacred responsibilities, fathers and mothers are obligated to help one another as equal partners.

Amy Walker:

Death, disability or other circumstances may necessitate individual adaptation. Extended family should lend support when needed. So that is very open, right Like very open. And the principles when I read the family proclamation, the principle is really understanding that the family is the center of the gospel and ordering our lives. Where our families are, you know, our family unit is a happy, loving place where we can grow and where our children can thrive. And it talks a lot more about the principles upon which we base our families than ever saying the mom. It never says anywhere in there that moms should be stay at home moms and not have careers.

Alisha Coakley:

Never says that anywhere Right, not even in there, and it also doesn't say that the men can't be stay at home dads either and have a career that's helping to provide for the family's necessities.

Amy Walker:

Yeah, so I think that there's a lot of um again. This is where, for me, I I, when I was younger I really didn't see anybody who was running a family and having a good, strong career. I just wasn't something that I saw, and so I assumed that it wasn't possible to do both. Um and now I. You know, I was speaking at an event, a women's event in New York city, and there were these two um interns that were there from the college and, uh, they wanted to come up and talk with me afterwards and, um, they the the thing that they said to me that I was just so I was like, okay, this feels like a moment. You know, it was one of those full circle moments is moments. They said thank you so much for showing us that we don't have to pick one or the other, but we can do both. And I was like, oh, thank you, cute girls, they're not of our faith. You know, most women are going to be working and at least at some point, you know, while they're, while they're raising their families, most are going to be working. So they might as well do something that they love, something that feeds their soul, something that makes them a better version of themselves.

Amy Walker:

And I remember early on, when I was really bad at business I was not good at being an entrepreneur. For my first solid five years I was really terrible at it, and I remember one night I drove to the Provo Temple parking lot and I was sitting there because my whole night had fallen apart. And I was in the parking lot and I was like, okay, heavenly Father, I really want to quit. And apart. And uh, I was in the parking lot and I was like, okay, heavenly father, I really want to quit. Like I'm not having fun, I'm not making money, I'm spending time away from my family, like I keep feeling like this is where you want me to be, but I don't see any reason why. So I I need you to tell me. And I remember him saying you're here because this is where I need you to be, so you can become the woman that I need you to be. It was like this is your development path, and so I was like, all right, I'll stick with it. Then I'm not throwing in the towel, I will stick with it.

Amy Walker:

And I look at all of the skills that I've developed through pursuing business and entrepreneurship, and I mean things like people management, conflict resolution. There's like not anything that you can throw at me that is going to phase me and I'm, I want I don't want to say I'm unoffendable, because I'm sure somebody could test that, but I'm pretty unoffendable and so, um, I know how to run really efficient meetings. I know how to um, reach out within the community and be comfortable navigating, um, navigating relationships with other churches who maybe don't necessarily like us, but we're trying to find common ground. There's a lot of really useful skills that I can use to build up the kingdom of God. That I clearly learned through business, and it's not like that was the only way I could have learned them. I'm sure I could have learned them through being super involved in the PTA, but this was the path that the Lord put me on and that's what I think is at the heart of it. If we're really listening to what our prophet is telling us right now is it's get, get know what the Lord is telling you and get really good at hearing his voice.

Amy Walker:

And I cannot, I could not have gotten to where I am in life, in business, in parenting, if I wasn't consistently talking with the Lord and consistently receiving revelation for my life and for my companies. That is where I go to first. Before I go to business principles, before I go to parenting books, I go to my prayer journal and I ask the Lord. I'm like here's where I'm at, heavenly Father, what do you want me to do? What do you want me to know? How do you want me to think about this? What have I not looked at yet? And I have pages and pages and pages of inspiration that he's given me over the years that they just work. And it's like I got to go in the fast checkout lane and I don't have to stand in line trying to figure it out for quite as long, because the Lord will just tell me and I really believe that he will have that kind of a relationship with all of us that if we will spend the time to ask and we'll spend the time to be willing to change and be willing to make course corrections, and if I was still wanting path A, I think I'd be pretty bitter in life, like I missed so much time with my kids and I had to work so hard and I didn't want to be the provider, I wanted to be the stay at home mom.

Amy Walker:

I could look at my life that way and I think I could be really disappointed. But instead I look back and I'm like, wow, what an amazing, amazing time we've had raising our kids together and, um, and it really has been together Like my. You know, when I look back to when my older boys were little and my husband was working all the time, they, they don't have memories of their dad and they're like I don't remember him being gone. I just don't have any memories with him. And then, you know, I look back to when I, when I launched my consulting business and it really took off and started being very financially successful and that allowed my husband to be able to come run the company full-time with me, and my kids don't remember anything without their dad there, like he's always been so present and so involved and so available and accessible, and that family life that we always wanted to have was exactly what the Lord was giving me when he was like, listen, your path is going to be faster, easier and get you what you want, versus his path would be harder, slower and he's going to be gone all the time.

Amy Walker:

And so I just think we have to trust the Lord that he's got a plan for our lives. We have to trust ourselves that what skills and talents we have are specific for us and they will be used in our path, and discipleship can look a lot of different ways. There's no one right way to be a member of the church. Right, like, there is gospel and living our covenants and all of the things that we promise to do in the temple, and those are all clearly right things. But even when you look at things like how we build up the kingdom of God, right, that can look so many different ways, right? Right, there's a lot of room for us to be unique individuals within this great gospel and there is room for differences and there is room for variations.

Scott Brandley:

Yeah Well, you're building up the kingdom of God through buying and selling businesses. I mean not necessarily through that directly, but like through the lessons you've learned from business, you've been able to apply them in your life, and and by having God involved in that, you know that's.

Alisha Coakley:

That's a really cool story, and well, I love, I mean, and so sorry to, I'm gonna promote right now, and so sorry to, I'm going to promote right now. I'm going to get on my pedestal for you. I love that. What, what you're doing with um. So so you have a business called the exit school, which is the thing that we were talking about a little earlier, which teaches people how to acquire businesses that are already, that are already established, that have been around for a long time, especially like the ones who have gone through COVID, who have gone through the 2008 market crash. You know really sustainable businesses and I.

Alisha Coakley:

One of the things that just like made me fall in love with the program is typically, whenever you have anything business related, right, you have a lot of people that are like, okay, you're going to want to get the best deal for you, right, it's all it's. They approach it selfishly, like make sure you talk them down to the bottom dollar so that you can get this and you have the most blah, blah, blah. But what you and and your business partner, john Rogers, is doing is you guys are saying no, like we want to make it a really great deal for everybody involved. You know you have these business owners who have put decades of their time and their energy and their resources into these businesses and they no longer want to run them, for example. You know, and maybe their kids don't want to take it over. We've we've had these conversations before about how, like, our kids tend to want to do the opposite of what we're doing. So if we're an entrepreneur, the kids want to go get a regular job. If we're working a regular job, the kids want to own a business. They kind of just want to like be like I can do my own thing.

Alisha Coakley:

You know, sometimes you have people build these businesses and it's what's going to happen if they don't find a buyer. It's going to, it's just going to go under. They're going to lose employee. You know, like employees are going to lose their jobs and their benefits and their security and that kind of stuff. And so really what you're teaching is you're teaching how we can take our resources and we can go. You know, help somebody else to be able to keep what they've got going going right, and how can we make it even better so we can provide more jobs, so that we can provide more security for people, so that we can provide the type of environment that people enjoy working in, because I feel like a lot of a lot of my friends who go to work there. They're always complaining Right About the people that they're working with or about the long hours, or they have to work on these holidays or whatever else people that they're working with, or about the long hours, or they have to work on these holidays or whatever else.

Alisha Coakley:

And it's like what, what would happen if we had control of that and we got to incorporate gospel principles into our companies and we got to bless other people, because we know that we're really trying to one show Christlike love to all of those that are connected with our business? How would that change products in the way that they're made? How would it change the way the services are given? How would it change employees relationships Right, like, like. We really can change so much by doing something like this. I'm not saying that this is the only way to do it, right, like, like. You can do it no matter what job you're in, but I just love that. That's something that you've taken and you've incorporated into this business and now you're teaching other people how to do it and at the same time, it's just increasing the pie for everybody, financially, like with, with emotional stability, with opportunity. It's just, it's a beautiful thing and I feel like it's truly in line with that, that commandment that they were given in the garden of Eden, which is to multiply and replenish the earth.

Amy Walker:

You know, not just about as you were talking about this too. I love Jacob too. Jacob, chapter two, and I want to read this this is what I consider the formula for righteous wealth creation, and I want to read this this is what I consider the formula for righteous wealth creation. And people always think of verse 18 and they don't go on to verse 19. And you've got to go on to verse 19.

Amy Walker:

So, jacob, 2, 18, but before you seek for riches, seek ye for the kingdom of God. We always hear that right, but they don't go on to 19. And after you have obtained a hope in Christ, you shall obtain riches. If you seek them, and you will seek them for the intent to do good, to clothe the naked, to feed the hungry, to liberate the captive and to administer relief to the sick and the afflicted. It's not that we're not supposed to seek for riches, it's we're supposed to seek in order. And it doesn't say that after you have a perfect knowledge of Christ or after you've been translated. It says after you have a hope in Christ.

Amy Walker:

And so I look at the years of our life when we were the most financially struggling and how much of our capacity went to things like stress and overwhelm and fear and doubt, and the devil thrives in that environment, right? And then I look at the years where we've had abundance and we've had peace and we've had plenty, and it's not that we didn't still have stresses in our life, because money does not reduce, it doesn't make you exempt from stress, but it does allow you to focus outward and to be able to serve more in your communities. And so when I look at the world today, we have the baby boomers that are retiring. In the next 10 years there will be $10 trillion worth of businesses that need to transition hands. There's not enough people buying those businesses and if we lose those businesses that is, jobs that's a huge hit to the economy.

Amy Walker:

And so when I think, who do we want to be really wealthy before the Savior comes?

Amy Walker:

I really want good people to be really wealthy. I want people who are going to use that wealth to, you know, do exactly what we talk about in Jacob to clothe the naked, to feed the hungry, to liberate the prize, but to place money as the vehicle for us being able to prepare for the second coming, to get people ready so that when we get there, you know and I'm not saying I'm not saying that it's not going to be hard but, like we have been promised in scriptures, that if we're prepared, we need not fear, and there are more businesses for sale right now than there are people buying them. So it's just a really wonderful opportunity to have um, to set ourselves up. That we can. You know, we can work hard now while we can and while we have the time, and we can build great companies. We can set up wonderful values, we can be amazing employers, provide good service, work business with integrity and good values, and we can also build wealth and we can do it in order because we're following those principles.

Amy Walker:

I love those scriptures, but every time someone stops at 18, I'm like go on to 19.

Alisha Coakley:

Read more.

Amy Walker:

You're not done yet.

Scott Brandley:

Yeah, it's hard to lift up people if you are on the same level, and you know I love your ideas of really empowering people and teaching them so that they can lift themselves up, so they can lift others.

Alisha Coakley:

Yeah, it makes me think of the. I don't know like a lot of people have heard this quote before, the Marion G Romney quote that he says without self-reliance one cannot exercise this innate desire to serve. How can we give if there's nothing there? Food for the hungry cannot come from empty shelves, money to assist the needy cannot come from an empty purse, teaching cannot come from the unlearned and, most important of all, spiritual guidance cannot come from the spiritually weak. And I think it's like it's one of the beautiful things of this, of this church specifically right, and the way that it incorporates the gospel into our daily lives, is that we have been taught for literally as long as I have been a member of the church 30 years to work towards self-reliance right, and I don't think that self-reliance honestly means that you are completely relying on somebody else, just because they're your spouse, to be able to live right, to manage Like it's great to be and we should be able to help each other out. But at the same time, I feel like we're better off when we're both able to really improve all areas of self-reliance you know, like even down to like our emotional health right, like that's something that the church has been incorporating in their programs recently is like heal from your garbage.

Alisha Coakley:

You know what I mean Like. Stop being so offended, garbage. You know what I mean Like. Stop being so offended. Don't live in depression and anxiety and fear and and um, don't play small right Like that does not serve the world, it doesn't serve the kingdom of God, it doesn't serve you or your family or anyone else to stay in these ruts and to stay in these situations where you're constantly asking everybody else to take care of you. You know, and and I think that even goes as wives too right Like I, I've always been a big believer that once my kids were out of the house, this is what, this is my plan. Once the kids were out of the house, I was going to go back to work, right, like once they were all gone. And then it kind of changed like well, maybe when they're in school full time, and then we ended up homeschooling, so that, yeah, but, um, but I do.

Alisha Coakley:

I think that the more self-reliant we are, the more opportunities we have to bless others and to and to share that Christlike love. Just like you were saying, if you're not stressing out about money and the necessities of life, you're actually able to, like, think bigger and have a greater perspective, and you're able to see the needs of other people more clearly and not only just see them and feel bad for them, but see them and help them. You know, and that's like the most amazing feeling ever is being like it's fine, I'm like heavenly father's got me, he's going to make everything work out and I get to help people in the process.

Amy Walker:

And one of the things that I have loved over the years of working with, because I, you know, I've been working in the small business growth space for a long time Um, even before helping people buy businesses, that's what I was doing was consulting with companies and helping them grow. And it's been amazing. When you take a really value centered and I don't want to just say Christ centered, because, um, you know, I've met people of other faiths as well who they're, like their faith centered individuals, and when you take them, you help them create a business where now their needs are met, because I truly think most people spend like 80, 90% of their capacity just trying to meet their basic needs. And so when you get them to the point where, like, their needs are met, then what comes next is so exciting, and that's where you watch them step into philanthropy and they go and start solving the problems in their communities and in the world and they do amazing things. And so I've watched my clients get to that point with their business where they're like, oh, now our needs are met, okay, what comes next? And then they go start nonprofits in Haiti and they're doing humanitarian work and they're paying for wells and water in Africa, which is a personal passion of mine, because when you get wells in Africa, you also get girls that go to school.

Amy Walker:

And in developing nations, every dollar that a woman earns, 80 cents of that goes back into building her community. So if you can get the girls in school, you can then get the you know you can then get them building up the next community. So, like for me, so much starts with a well you know you get. Then get them building up the next community. So, like for me, so much starts with a well, you know, you get a well, and all of a sudden you're you're on a very different trajectory for your community. So those are the types of things that when I, when I see us get to that point where we are no longer so consumed with meeting our own personal needs, now we can look beyond and we can say how can I help and how can I serve and what can I do and what can I build in my community. And that is a really beautiful place to be. And it doesn't mean that we can't do that when we're still in a place of scarcity, because I've seen some amazing people start nonprofits that do a lot of good and I know their needs are not all met right, but it's just a little easier. It's a little easier, it's a little smoother. And so, again, you look at Mother Teresa. Mother Teresa was amazing at wealth creation. She just channeled it all to other people. But that woman raised a lot of money in her life and she did a lot of good with it.

Amy Walker:

And so I think that, as members of the church, um, for us to really uh and I, I don't know, I'm not going to say this is the past path for everyone, um, but if, if we have people who are listening and they feel like they're in that place of financial struggle and they don't know what comes next, I would just prayerfully ask the Lord what he wants you to do in order to open up the windows of heaven, because that's another promise that we've been given in scripture is that the Lord is willing to bless us with so much abundance that we don't have enough room to receive it. And if that's not where we're at right now and that's not what we have, then I think that's a good time to go and be prayerful and ask the Lord. You know, what do we need to do in order to align with that. And I remember being in that process where we were super poor, we were super strapped and barely getting by and really having a repentance conversation, because I kept telling myself I'm doing the best I can, we're doing the best we can, we're doing the best we can.

Amy Walker:

And then I finally got to this point where I was like you know what Actually I'm not, I'm living in fear constantly and I'm constantly seeing opportunities for things that I could do, but saying no to them because they're terrifying. And so I repented and I was like let me use the atonement for my finances and repent for all of the mistakes that I've made, whether they were just dumb financial moves or whether they were me being too scared to go after the thing. It's like when you're praying for something and then the Lord puts it right in front of you and you're like no, thank you, give me it in a different way. I was doing a lot of that. The opportunities were coming, but I was not taking them because I was scared. And so I utilized the atonement for that.

Amy Walker:

And I remember having this moment where we were on a youth conference trip and they were going to bury, you know, and then they went and buried it in the ground. And what I wrote on mine was living below my potential, that I was going to bury that. And I was going to say, you know, just like the in the Book of Mormon, they buried their weapons of war, right, and they were like we are never going back to this place again and I buried that. I was like I'm going to bury living below my potential. I don't even know what my potential looks like, but when you show me something that you want me to do, I'm going to jump in and I'm going to trust that you're going to help me rise up to the occasion. And that was a real turning point for me in my business and my career and my life.

Amy Walker:

And I'm not saying that 100% of the time I'm living at my potential, because potential is unlimited. I'm probably always living a little below it, but I no longer allow fear to be the thing that makes the decisions and drives my car. Fear can sit in the back seat, it can be in the trunk, but it does not get to drive. It's the Lord and inspiration and what his path is for me that I'm like okay, I'm doing that, I'm going to do it to the best of my ability, I'm going to let him make up the differences. I'm going to cry when I fall flat on my face. Then I'm going to get over it. I'm going to try, wow, wow.

Alisha Coakley:

Well, let me ask you how? How has this path, how do you feel like it's helped your relationship with the Lord? How do you feel?

Amy Walker:

like it's helped your relationship with the Lord. We talk a lot and we are so much closer because he's my business partner and so I won't say necessarily every day, but most days we're having good conversations where I am writing down everything that's going on in life and in business and I'm asking the questions of what am I supposed to do with this, what should this look like? And he is guiding my footsteps, he's guiding my path, and so we talk a lot. I frequently feel like I am falling short and I am frequently asking for him to make up the difference and that's the beautiful thing about the atonement versus just personal development. You know, personal development is you trying to change and be better. The atonement is you surrendering your weakest parts so that the Lord can make them strong. And I've seen that show up in my life and in my career so many times and like my every, every thing that you would look at from the outside and say, wow, that's successful. Um, I could find you a day in some journal when the Lord gave that idea.

Amy Walker:

So I feel like it's more, more his business than it is mine and I just, I just try to do. I try to do what he tells me to do as fast as I possibly can I love that.

Scott Brandley:

That's awesome. I've never I mean I've been an entrepreneur since I was like five I've never had the thought that God is my business partner, until you just said it.

Alisha Coakley:

Right, I love that, I love that.

Scott Brandley:

That's like just changed my whole mentality. I'm going to totally bring God into my business as my partner man. Thank you for that little. I don't know if that was like inspiration or not, but that's going to be amazing. That's so funny, it's the same thing.

Alisha Coakley:

That just stuck out to me too.

Amy Walker:

I was like I love that he's such a good business partner too. Like I'm telling you it makes life way easier. Because sometimes you're just stuck out to me too. I was like I love that he's such a good business partner too. Like I'm telling you it makes life way easier. Because sometimes you're like I don't know how to get to this thing Truly don't know how to get there. And then you turn it over to the Lord and you're like okay, can I put you in charge of that? And then all of a sudden it magically comes together and you're like great, I'll take that, save me a few months.

Scott Brandley:

Yeah, I wrote it down.

Alisha Coakley:

Sorry, go ahead.

Scott Brandley:

I just said I wrote that down because I'm going to make that part of my my business from now on.

Alisha Coakley:

So thank, you for that. I love it when I left you how you mentioned that you use the atonement for all of your bad financial decisions and mistakes and and your ignorance in it and stuff like that.

Alisha Coakley:

Cause I I feel like that's one thing that I carry on me all the time and that even like my husband too right, Like my husband's always been the saver and I've always been the spender and he he likes to really bring up all of the ways that I didn't make sense when it came to finances and stuff like that, and and I beat myself up for it too. So I love that, Like I've never even considered that a sin. But in reality, if the Lord is giving us everything and it's our responsibility to be good stewards with what we're given and we're not, either because we don't choose to educate ourselves, or because we make poor decisions based on that instant gratification bug that bites us all the time, or whatever it is, or even maybe you know, not following the spirit or not taking it to the Lord and counseling with him as your business partner. Yeah, I just I've never considered using the atonement for that, so it's something I'm I'm going to do it.

Amy Walker:

I think we barely scratched the surface with our understanding of the atonement and how powerful it is as a change agent. And so I remember being in college and listening to Elder Eyring said he used the atonement every day and I was like what does he do every day? Like I only need to repent every week? And I just I didn't understand that is, that is the Lord's plan for helping us to become more like him. It's how we ease our burdens, it's how we, um, strengthen our shortcomings. It's like that is the plan, and so, um, I I just think it is so much more far reaching than sometimes we give it credit.

Alisha Coakley:

You're incredible, amy. I'm so happy that you're like a person in my life now. Well, thank you, I've learned so much from you. I feel like I'm forever indebted. I owe you so much. I really appreciate that At dinner, hey, hey, I'll give you a free venue if your son wants to come have his reception in Lubbock, texas yeah, I mean he served his mission in Dallas.

Amy Walker:

He might not be so so sad about that.

Scott Brandley:

Oh man, is there anything that you'd like to share, as we kind of wrap things up here, I guess my advice to everyone would be share, as we kind of wrap things up here.

Amy Walker:

I guess my advice to everyone would be to trust that the Lord has a very clear and specific path for your life and when you have moments where you feel like you are adhering to the covenants that you made in the temple, you have been listening to personal inspiration and from the outside in, it might look like you're off track. That's not the Lord telling you that. That's the adversary trying to make you doubt the Lord's plan for you, because he does have a clear and specific plan for each of us, and there are so many ways that you can be an amazing wife, an amazing mother, an amazing husband, an amazing father, an amazing disciple of Jesus Christ. There's a lot of different ways and there really is room in the gospel for all of us. There's room at the Savior's feet, and so go, sit there and learn and he will talk with you and he will teach you and he will guide you on your best path.

Alisha Coakley:

I love it, Wow. Well, for those who are interested whether they want to reach out to you, um, knowing about, like, the next time you're going to speak or give a fireside, or if they're wanting you to be on their podcast, or they want to, uh, reach out to you about the exit school what is the best way for for people to get in touch with you? Uh probably just through email.

Amy Walker:

Okay, yeah, I would say just email me, amy, at the exit schoolcom. Um, and if you want to go check out the web, the website it's just the exit schoolcom. But I would love to um help and serve any way I can.

Alisha Coakley:

Okay, awesome, we'll make sure that we share that link in the description for you and um, I can just vouch it's. You're incredible. I've seen nothing but, goodness come from you and from the things that you touch, and I I just love that you're sharing your light with the world, so thank you.

Amy Walker:

I appreciate you having me on and giving me a chance. Normally I just get to talk business, but it was really a joy to talk business and spirituality at the same time.

Alisha Coakley:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Scott Brandley:

I feel like our lives are just a little better today because of you and because of this podcast, and I believe that this is going to help inspire a lot of people, so thank you for taking the time to be on today, really, appreciate it, you're welcome.

Alisha Coakley:

All right. Well, that's all we have for guests today. Guys, make sure that you comment. Let us know what you loved most about this. Uh, this episode today about Amy's story and and just the million of little nuggets that she gave us.

Alisha Coakley:

I I tell Scott all the time we need to start selling bumper stickers with the things that our guests are saying and I feel like we would have make a fortune off of your episode. You gave us so many good things, but really honestly, guys, to our listeners, we are so appreciative of you guys chiming in here and being patient with us as we learn and grow and develop and become better, and we love hearing feedback about our guests and about the stories and the way that they have been able to touch your life. So please, please, please, comment and let us know what you thought of Amy's episode today and the things that meant something to you, and do your five-second missionary work. Share, share, share. We love when you hit that little share button. It takes no time at all and you have no idea how the Lord will use it to get in contact with the person who needs to have it the most in their life at this time.

Scott Brandley:

So be sure to do that and we'll be forever appreciative yeah, and if you have a story that you'd like to share on our show, go to latterdaylightscom and let us know about it so we can have you on the show as well. So once again, amy, thanks for being here and thanks everybody for tuning in, and we will talk to you next week with another episode of Latter-day Lights. Until then, take care, see ya.

Alisha Coakley:

Bye guys.

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