Could hallucinogens be the unexpected heroes in our quest for mental wellness? Venture into a thought-provoking journey where we unravel the promising alliance between hallucinogens and psychiatric therapy. With my expertise as a licensed therapist and certified hypnotherapist, we embark on a fascinating exploration of how once-stigmatized substances like ketamine are now at the frontline of treating mental health conditions. We delve into ketamine's transformative leap from an anesthetic to an FDA-approved nasal spray and discuss its quick-acting benefits for those grappling with depression, anxiety, and other disorders. The discussion also pays homage to the late Carl Weathers, whose legacy in film and television is fondly remembered.
This episode is far more than a conventional conversation; it's a deep dive into the intersection of neuroscience and mental health care. I examine the role of ketamine therapy in enhancing glutamate levels, fostering neuroplasticity, and potentially reshaping destructive thought patterns. By looking at the various methods of administering ketamine, with a focus on the FDA-approved nasal spray, we acknowledge the innovation in the field and the rapid relief it offers compared to traditional antidepressants. Furthermore, we speculate on the future of psychiatric care, envisioning a world where AI and technology further refine our approach to healing the mind, offering a beacon of hope for those in search of alternatives to conventional treatments.
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Change your thinking, change your life! Laugh hard, run fast, be kind. David R. Wright MA, LPC, CHT The Motor City Hypnotist
Could hallucinogens be the unexpected heroes in our quest for mental wellness? Venture into a thought-provoking journey where we unravel the promising alliance between hallucinogens and psychiatric therapy. With my expertise as a licensed therapist and certified hypnotherapist, we embark on a fascinating exploration of how once-stigmatized substances like ketamine are now at the frontline of treating mental health conditions. We delve into ketamine's transformative leap from an anesthetic to an FDA-approved nasal spray and discuss its quick-acting benefits for those grappling with depression, anxiety, and other disorders. The discussion also pays homage to the late Carl Weathers, whose legacy in film and television is fondly remembered.
This episode is far more than a conventional conversation; it's a deep dive into the intersection of neuroscience and mental health care. I examine the role of ketamine therapy in enhancing glutamate levels, fostering neuroplasticity, and potentially reshaping destructive thought patterns. By looking at the various methods of administering ketamine, with a focus on the FDA-approved nasal spray, we acknowledge the innovation in the field and the rapid relief it offers compared to traditional antidepressants. Furthermore, we speculate on the future of psychiatric care, envisioning a world where AI and technology further refine our approach to healing the mind, offering a beacon of hope for those in search of alternatives to conventional treatments.
FIND ME: My Website: https://motorcityhypnotist.com/podcast My social media links: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/motorcityhypnotist/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCjjLNcNvSYzfeX0uHqe3gA Twitter: https://twitter.com/motorcityhypno Instagram: motorcityhypno FREE HYPNOSIS GUIDE https://detroithypnotist.convertri.com/podcast-free-hypnosis-guide Please also subscribe to the show and leave a review. (Stay with me as later in the podcast, I’ll be giving away a free gift to all listeners!)
Change your thinking, change your life! Laugh hard, run fast, be kind. David R. Wright MA, LPC, CHT The Motor City Hypnotist
Speaker 1:
In this episode of the Motor City Hypnotist podcast, we're going to talk about something that I don't know that a lot of people have talked about this, because it's a fairly new thing, but we're going to talk about using hallucinogens for therapy purposes for psychiatric purposes yeah.
Speaker 2:
Dude, this is so good it's going to be a great. What are you people On dope?
Speaker 1:
Maybe, but we're going to talk about it because there's some interesting information and studies that have been done and, again, it's not very old right now, but it is gaining traction. So we're going to talk about that and, as usual, we'll give away free stuff. We always do. Yeah, hang in there, folks, we'll be right back. Get ready for the.
Speaker 3:
Motor City Hypnotist David R Wright. Originating from the suburbs of Detroit, michigan, he has hypnotized thousands of people from all over the United States. David R Wright has been featured on news outlets all across the country and is the clinical director of an outpatient mental health and hypnosis clinic located just south of Detroit, where he helps people daily using the power of hypnosis. Welcome to Motor City Hypnotist David R Wright.
Speaker 1:
What's going on, my friends? This is David Wright, the Motor City Hypnotist. We're back with another episode of the Motor City Hypnotist podcast. Yes, you are. Yes, we are. That is Matt Fox, the other voice you hear. Hello, david, we're here live in the podcast. Your voice, southfield Studios. Yes, the Palatial. I haven't called a Palatial in a while, but it is.
Speaker 3:
Yeah.
Speaker 1:
We've got a great setup here. If you want to do a podcast and you happen to like a fully stock bar, this is the place for you. Man, the table is big, the bourbon is neat, it is there we go oh, we're drinking Rittenhouse.
Speaker 2:
Rittenhouse, right, rittenhouse, there we go. Yes, sir, like my ride. Yes, we do. So I got to tell you I'm kind of excited for today's topic, but we want you to get all your stuff out. All my stuff done?
Speaker 1:
Yes for sure. First of all, let me tell you where you can find me. Website is MotorCityHippenatistcom. I'm going to push again. Promen and prom and grad season are coming up, so if you're looking to book, now's the time to do it, and you can do it right through the website. Right Go to website, click on shows and you can fill out a form there. You'll get a quote within minutes and you can lock it in right online. Yep, you don't have to talk to anyone. Unless you want to talk to somebody, you can do that too.
Speaker 2:
But then I'm not going to let them upcharge me.
Speaker 1:
Many people don't? You know? They just like doing their thing and getting everything locked in and not having to talk to anybody. So that's all good too. Yes, check that out because, again, dates are filling up quick, so make sure we get it in. And you want to hire me? You don't want to hire anybody else? I'm just letting you know. We don't want you from experience.
Speaker 1:
Don't go towards the hobby hypnosis. No, no, exactly right, because there are a lot of hobby hypnotists out there. Right, if you do it for a living, they're just, it's just like a side thing for them. And I'm not saying these aren't nice people or anything. And let me, let me, we could do. We did a whole topic on this once, but I'm just going to just condense it and just like two or three statements. Hypnotists are not licensed. Just know that Anybody can be a hypnotist. They can do an online course for an hour and say they're a hypnotist. So you want somebody with experience and somebody, in my opinion, that also has a mental health experience. I'm a licensed therapist. I'm also certified hypnotherapist. You want somebody who has that background, just in case you know, because that's very rare, but every once in a while you could have a situation you need to deal with and we're going to talk about that again soon. Okay, when hypnotherapy goes wrong or hypnosis goes wrong, got it, so we'll get to that.
Speaker 1:
And for your show, you want to hire me? Go to the website MotorCityHypnotistcom, click on shows, get your quote within minutes. My social media, our Facebook and YouTube, are both Motor City Hypnotists, and on Snapchat and Instagram are Motor City Hypno. And that is HYPNO. Yep. And for your free hypnosis guide, as we do, every show text the word hypnosis to 313-800-85010. Do it. And if you need that number later, check the show notes. And every show note going back three years Yep, well, not every. This used to be a link that you could click. Now we're texting Okay, all right, some of the older notes may have a different, but you can still get it that way too. But perfect Text the word hypnosis to 313-800-85010.
Speaker 1:
And, most important thing, wherever you're listening, leave a review. That would help out tremendously. You know, even you know you don't have to write a book, just a couple of sentences. Yeah, so, if you've seen one of my shows because a lot of people out there who are subscribed to my Facebook page have seen my shows, so a review would be fantastic. And again, that just gets the podcast to more people. Cool. All right, I think we're good. All right, you ready, matt? Yeah, that's how winning is done, all right.
Speaker 1:
Okay, speaking of Sylvester Stallone, real quickly. Rip Carl Weathers. Yes, bummer, like total bummer this weekend, not even just for all the Rocky stuff and Predator, but Mandalorian, yeah, you know, I don't know if they filmed anymore with him. I don't know, I don't know where that was in the process as far as filming goes, like, yeah, just that's a bummer, that's a.
Speaker 2:
I think they brought his character to a close when he gave the Mandalorian a place to live in his Right In his city.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, Right, yeah. But anyway, you know condolences to Carl Weathers' family and you know it's a bummer.
Speaker 2:
I was going to say you know, raise a colt 45, but that's not.
Speaker 3:
Carl Weathers. That's Billy Dee. That's Billy Dee.
Speaker 1:
Good one, Matt.
Speaker 3:
I'm listening to you. No more, right, right.
Speaker 1:
It's been a great winter of the week. Today A Massachusetts police canine followed her nose to help find a 12 year old who went missing in frigid temperatures last week, tracking the child scent for over two miles. Authorities said Canine BISA B-I-Z-A, a female German Shepherd, was called on to help after officers learned that a child left their home at around 10 30 pm Wednesday and was last seen I'm going to butcher this name the Pachachowag Hill area of Auburn. The Auburn Police Department said.
Speaker 2:
So the child is 12 years old and just left the house at 10 30 at night.
Speaker 1:
The child had left the home without a cell phone or their mother's permission. The Worcester Telegram and Gazette reported Okay, is it Worcestershire or Worcestershire? It's Worcester? Okay, yeah, it could be. I don't know. It's crazy.
Speaker 3:
It's quite fun. It stings the nostrils but it's so good I don't know it is so good Due to the freezing temperatures.
Speaker 1:
Police said that officers, detectives and Massachusetts state police troopers converged on the area to locate the wandering child.
Speaker 2:
Okay, Just out for a stroll at 10 30.
Speaker 1:
Apparently all right. Canine Bisa and her handler, Auburn police officer David Lungren, were deployed and the dog eventually picked up a scent. Bisa tracked the scent for over two miles and led officers to an area where they found evidence that the missing youth had passed by a short time earlier. Okay, Additional officers converged on the area and found the child a short time later. The child was safe and reunited with her family.
Speaker 2:
It was at 7 11 having a slur.
Speaker 1:
I don't know. Apparently, they don't. There's not a lot of information as far as where the youth ended up or what they were doing. I mean, they were outside, that's for sure, but or the child was outside. Bisa is a good dog. Deputy Chief Richard Mills told the newspaper. Well, yeah, yes, good dog, good dog, bisa, good job. Bisa joined the police department in 2022. The dog has her own Instagram account, if you'd like to look that up. Matt Okay, and was selected. This was great. And was selected as Miss December in the Massachusetts Vesta Dog 2024 calendar. Yeah, that's great. So Bisa is not only a canine, she's a calendar pinup as well. Do you want to see Bisa? Sure, is it a German Shepherd? Oh, absolutely yes.
Speaker 2:
She's so pretty. Look at that, those ears. I know, yeah, pretty dog very pretty.
Speaker 1:
Good dog visa. Good dog visa. Yes, people want to see visa there she is look at that face.
Speaker 1:
So, yeah, what a great story. I don't know if you knew my brother was a canine officer for many years. I did not. Yes, he had a dog. His name was bandit. Okay, male German Shepherd looks, most German shepherds, look, oh, look the same, sure, sure, this dog was fantastic, he was a. You know, the funny thing was my brother already had a dog, uh-huh, and then when he got his police dog, that the dog lives with them, with the officer, as they do. Yes, so. So this police dog comes in, and my brother had another mutt. It was just like a mutt, mixed breed dog, okay, but the police dog bandit came home with him. But because that dog was there first, his other dog, oh, oh, the police dog was not the alpha, the house, right, no right, it knew its place.
Speaker 2:
Yeah.
Speaker 1:
You're right.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 1:
It just was weird because this dog could have tore up any dog that came came around. Sure, really wanted to, but but yeah, it's a great story and then, yeah, I you know Canines are great because they do things like this then people can't do. So I couldn't smell a lot of 12 year old.
Speaker 2:
Well, wait a minute.
Speaker 1:
Well, maybe depends on the 12 year old. So so yeah to to To the 12 year old. I don't know that they didn't give a name. I think they're probably trying to save some embarrassment or something, I don't know. But but to beza and her handler, david Lungren Good job, definitely winner of the week. Good job, beza, good, good God, good dog.
Speaker 3:
That's how we did is done.
Speaker 1:
Yes, it is so.
Speaker 2:
Back to it. Yeah, like like I said at the top of the other show, yeah, I'm very excited to listen to what you have to say, because when you told me, my brain went right. My brain went right towards a Netflix show that you haven't seen.
Speaker 1:
Yes, I have not seen it, but it is on my list of watch and it's and that show is called to have a good time. Adventures in psychedelics is the name of the day. Okay, okay.
Speaker 2:
There we go, and that is you. You explore hallucinogenic highs and lows as celebrities share funny, mind-blowing tales via animations, reenactments and more in this documentary. Okay so it's actually it's actually very interesting just to kind of see some of the people Now talking about their experiences. Mm-hmm, you know, when sting popped on, I'm like well there.
Speaker 1:
Well, that makes. Yeah.
Speaker 2:
But it was, it was. It's a very Informational documentary.
Speaker 1:
No, no, which is fantastic, because so. So what we're talking about as Matt alluded to, we talked about in the opening and the intro Is that we're talking about hallucinogens for Therapy purposes or for psychiatric purposes a lot of folks will like.
Speaker 2:
You know the, the homeopathic, you know the sage, you know all the oh, what do you? What do you call incense? You know burning incense, right you know, as you're sitting in a room and you're trying to meditate. Yes, right, but this is taking it. The next step up it is.
Speaker 1:
so we're gonna focus specifically today on Ketamine. Now, ketamine, if those of you don't know what Ketamine is, don't horses take Ketamine?
Speaker 2:
I believe so, but I don't know for sure on that didn't they use that as a drug to make it run faster, or something?
Speaker 1:
Oh, I don't know because. So Ketamine is a dissociative Anesthetic used medically for induction and maintenance of anesthesia. Okay, it is also used as a treatment for depression and pain management. Interesting, ketamine is novel compound that was derived from I'm not gonna say this, right fence, sick fence, slick cyclodyne, ph ENCY C, l, I, d, I, n E in 1962 in pursuit of a safer anesthetic with fewer hallucinogenic effects.
Speaker 1:
Okay, so Ketamine, when it first started being used in the 60s, they started using it as an anesthetic in in wars, like in fields, like for for medics. Okay, because it did have that. That I Guess the side effect was. It just took pain away because you know your brain is, you know, just takes your brain to another level, right? So so ketamine and all other hallucinogens are, it's kind of new as far as treating mental disorders. So, again, as I mentioned, they, health professionals, began using ketamine in the 1960s. Okay, and what happened was, as they were using it as an anesthetic, they noticed it just didn't cause sedation that people started reporting Improvements in their mood and the way they feel after receiving ketamine. So there's a, a certified psychedelic Psychotherapist in Minnesota, his name is Kyle Keller, okay, and he said that that clients often will see a drastic improvement in mood even just after using ketamine once huh, and that oftentimes it lasts for a long time.
Speaker 1:
During the 2000s a trusted source, which is a media outlet medical professionals began research in ketamine as a possible treatment for depression. According to Hans Erickson, who's a clinical psychiatrist and chief medical officer, the FDA approved the use of these names I'm sorry folks, I'm gonna butcher these names, but they're so they approved the use of an esketamine nasal spray called Sprovato for treatment resistant depression. Esketamine is a more potent form of ketamine, so doctors can prescribe it at lower doses that have a similar effect. So we're still talking about hallucinogens here, just different kinds and how they work in the dosages. So there's a term that we need to get out of the way and define treatment resistant depression. So long story. What that means is depression that doesn't get resolved with typical forms of treatment like Prozac therapy, medication, anti-depressants. So a lot of times people will take anti-depressants and it doesn't help their depression.
Speaker 2:
And then their doctor may prescribe another medication to help boost an ability of some sort.
Speaker 1:
Right, yeah, and sometimes they will do an add-on to kind of help boost the effects or help your brain process it better.
Speaker 2:
Or just increase the dosage of the existing medication.
Speaker 1:
But oftentimes what happens. And here's the thing and I'm gonna say this because I have experience and I know this psychiatry as far as medications go, it's not like, oh, this will work for you. It really is a trial and error thing, especially with depression and anxiety, because a lot of times people will take something like Prozac or some other common Zoloft is another common anti-depressant and it doesn't work for them. But then they might try something different, like well buterin, and that one does work. So it is kind of a crapshoot when you're first starting out with antidepressants, because your body is going to process those differently and everybody's different.
Speaker 2:
Right, and you know you have to. They use the word wean. You have to wean yourself onto it, but then if you end up having to change the type of medication or the name of the medication you have to wean yourself off and then start again yourself on. So there's just this ebb and flow of you know, sometimes problems.
Speaker 1:
Oh no, absolutely, and in that, in that is one of the downfalls, if there is a downfall of depression medication.
Speaker 2:
And if you are not very, you know patient right. You know it's been three days, it's not working.
Speaker 1:
Well, you see, that's well, and you make a good point, Matt, because with most antidepressants, the way they work in your body is they have to build up blood levels over time. Right, so you're not gonna. You're not going to feel an effect of an antidepressant the day you take it. Typically, on average, it's like two to three weeks of taking the same dose to get it up to the level that you want it to be.
Speaker 2:
And it almost feels like it's you know twice that amount of time to wean off of it, to get it out of your blood and get the new stuff in.
Speaker 1:
So in, antidepressants have their place. So I'm not, I'm not here to say, oh, don't take antidepressants, because they're effective for a lot of people and oftentimes that's something that will really help people who have depression, especially if they're suicidal or have suicidal ideations. Sure so. But here's the thing for a lot of people, antidepressants one either they don't work or people don't want to trade off the side effects that they get from antidepressants, which are sometimes numerous anal leakage is not a joke.
Speaker 2:
Oh great Odin Draven may cause anal leakage quite fungient stings the nostril. Sign me up.
Speaker 1:
So one of the biggest and again this is this isn't this is kind of a given one of the one of the. I guess that there can be more serious side effects, but one of the side effects people deal with is sexual dysfunction. Yeah, with with antidepressants. Sometimes people don't want to trade that off, they don't want to say, okay, I guess I'm, you know, not gonna feel like having sex if I take this. That can affect you as far as your mood and your depression as well. Sure, so there are a lot of reasons that people might, that antidepressants might not work for people. Okay, so therefore, again, over time, doctors and practitioners have been looking for options or alternatives, and I know they've started a ways back and I can't say exactly. I'm going to say within the last 20 years, there's been a lot of talk about micro dosing with hallucinogens to help people with their moods, to help people feel better.
Speaker 2:
You know they're not. You know, for lack of a better term, they're not dropping acid.
Speaker 1:
Right.
Speaker 1:
You know right as far as, yeah, and there's a difference and we're going to get to that as far as recreational and medical, because it definitely is different, but some ways not so much, but we'll cover that, okay. So so right now, if you're depressed or you have PTSD or OCD or some other mental disorder, your treatment options are psychotherapy, which I recommend. That that's a helpful thing and I think everyone should be able to. Everyone should be doing that. If you're feeling depressed, medicine medication Again, we talked about anti depressants hypnotherapy, which is another good way to cover things meditation, acupuncture, so a lot of these are natural solutions to that. But oftentimes these things aren't enough if somebody's in a deep depression and especially if somebody again is suicidal. So I'm going to try to put it in layman's terms how can I mean works to resolve depression? So I read this and then we'll get back into explaining exactly what this means in English terms. Can I mean works by binding to receptors in the brain?
Speaker 1:
Okay, not making new pathways, but just binding, binding itself to, to the, to the brain receptors, and it also produces a chemical called glutamate. Okay, so what happens? That it helps activate glutamate in your brain. So glutamate's exact role is mood regulation. So low levels of glutamate in your brain leads to depression symptoms. Does that on the right side or the left side? I don't, I don't think it matters, I think it's, I think it's, it's all over. So, so what happens? When you have ketamine or another hallucinogen? It increases that amount of glutamate in your brain as far as is activating receptors and, oftentimes, depression.
Speaker 1:
I use this, I use this analogy, when I explain to clients exactly how the brain works and what happens when somebody's clinically depressed or chemically depressed. So think of you, think of your brain is filled, filled with synapses. They're there, they're the things that fire off to, to make activity in your brain Sure. So I always kind of describe it like a spark plug. There's a gap in a spark plug and there's a spark that jumps from that, you know, from plug to the, to the lead. So so think, think that you have millions of these little synapses sending signals back and forth over that little bridge, okay, okay, what happens when you're, when you're, chemically depressed, is that you're lacking neurotransmitters that will carry that electrical impulse from one lead to another, so it just goes off and then so it's just or it will go off.
Speaker 1:
But then because a lot of times that that the unused chemical gets re taken back in and then re like reused and that will, and we can get into a whole thing as far as an uptake inhibitors, which is the way some anti depressants work. They keep that chemical in the brain without it, without it coming back in. So okay, but find it, if I had a whiteboard I could draw this out a lot better. So so anyway, long, long story short, that's quite the Venn diagram.
Speaker 1:
It adds it. Hallucinogen increases the amount of glutamate in your brain, which which enables your synapses to fire more normally more typically, and that's what a ketamine would be Right yeah?
Speaker 1:
OK, so ketamine can also stimulate the production of brain-derived neurotrophic factor. Ok, this is a protein, and a protein plays a role in neuroplasticity, or your brain's ability to adapt how you experience new things. Hmm, ok, I know there's a lot of godly good as far as words here go, but the big thing is is what these hallucinogens do. They'll increase the amount of glutamate and also stimulate some protein. All right, that also helps with brain function.
Speaker 2:
So you put on your rose-colored glasses at that point, kind of.
Speaker 1:
Right. So because it supports your brain in this way, it helps change negative thought patterns that contribute to depression. Hmm, because it's almost like, I guess, for lack of a better analogy, think of your brain that working at like 40% capacity. Well, how?
Speaker 2:
much, that might not be hard for some people.
Speaker 1:
How much of a brain do we actually use? What are you talking?
Speaker 2:
about. You know we only use what Five.
Speaker 1:
Well, that's kind of a fallacy, that's yeah, that statement's been thrown around, but that's not really how it works. If I can use 40% of my brain, or let me put it in, let me put it as far as speed goes OK, let me use this analogy that you're on the expressway but you can only go 25 miles an hour. God, no, yeah, no, you're just. It's just not working the way it's supposed to. Right, when your brain is working correctly, then it's just more effective, and I don't want to say faster, but for the analogy purposes it just puts you into a normal pattern.
Speaker 1:
Better position Better position Better position OK, right. The other major advantage of using a hallucinogen light ketamine is that it works quickly, as opposed. We just talked about antidepressants taking two, three weeks, even a month sometimes, to get to the point where it's working as it should OK, and even then sometimes it doesn't work, depending on how your body reacts to it. So that's one of the great advantages of using hallucinogens is that it's immediate. With traditional antidepressants we already mentioned, it may take weeks before you notice any improvement. Studies have shown that ketamine offers relief in as little as an hour. Wow, that's quick.
Speaker 1:
So ketamine is being used right now to treat anxiety, ocd, post-traumatic stress disorder, bipolar disorder and depression. Ok, so there's a lot of things there and a lot of these things overlap. Typically, if somebody has a trauma as a child or even as an adult, it's hard to get rid of that and because of that trauma you're going to have increased anxiety and maybe depression. So a lot of these things overlap and, kind of you know, they just get all stuck together and just f with your mind is what it does.
Speaker 2:
So what happens, how you feeling.
Speaker 1:
So, things as things are moving in a way that because of we're looking for alternative treatments, this has come I don't want to say a long way, but it has come a long way in the past 10 years.
Speaker 2:
Ok, as far as treatment, and there's going to continue to be more studies done and you know.
Speaker 1:
no, absolutely, and over time there is.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, there's going to be more information, and I'll tell you what's going to take that to. The next is it was going to be the evolution of technology. Yeah, and sorry to say it, but AI, because AI is going to be able to predict you know what is going to happen. And that's just the technology that we have today. It's only going to get better and we are going to end up listening to this AI at some point in our lives, absolutely.
Speaker 1:
So, as far as ketamine goes or even we're talking about ketamine because that's the that, that is the one that they're using right now for psychiatric issues so how do you, how do you take it? Like, what form does it come in? Pill liquid, first one is nasal spray.
Speaker 2:
Okay.
Speaker 1:
Yes like a Narcan almost kind of nasal spray, once or twice a week up to four weeks, and after four weeks your care team can typically study your symptoms and recommend further treatment Interesting IV therapy.
Speaker 2:
That's the second way Intervenous.
Speaker 1:
A slow, continual IV drip delivers ketamine directly into the bloodstream.
Speaker 2:
That seems like to be the most the quickest way, not, not?
Speaker 1:
quite Okay. Intramuscular injections, jesus Okay. They receive shots of ketamine into a large muscle such as your shoulder or thigh. My goodness, that's another way to get it. And here's what. Here's another one that that I didn't know existed until I saw this, saw some of this information Lawsenges.
Speaker 2:
That's not candy, no, no.
Speaker 1:
Don't shut me up. Would you like a lozenge?
Speaker 3:
I like this in the background. What the fuck is it with you?
Speaker 2:
My goodness, can you imagine if that got mixed up with your skittles?
Speaker 1:
Right. So again, prescriptions can be written for oral ketamine tablets which dissolves slowly under your tongue, for you to take at home. Oftentimes patients will take these tablets between IV or IM treatments or on their own. Okay, it may take longer than notice and effect since it has to go through your digestive system to process that. If you use a lozenge, all right. Okay, you can only receive nasal spray, iv therapy and injections at a clinic or hospital.
Speaker 3:
Okay, Makes sense, of course.
Speaker 1:
Total. It allows healthcare professionals to monitor your response and impossible side effects Got it? So, according to Erickson, who we referenced earlier, iv therapy is one of the most widely studied forms of ketamine, in part because the treatment professional has more control over the dosage during treatment. Now, just so you know, the nasal spray is the only one that's FDA approved right now. Interesting, now, that doesn't mean you can't get it or take it.
Speaker 2:
It's just know that the FDA has only approved nasal spray as far as this therapy goes, your insurance might only cover the nasal spray. We're going to get to that, all right, we're going to get to that.
Speaker 1:
So you might be saying, okay, this all sounds great, but what are the results? How do we know whether it works? Well, you told me you're taking it. I'm going to tell you You've got to tune in next episode to find out. Oh shit.
Speaker 2:
All right, here we go. Which is going to happen right after this? No, it's going to happen.
Speaker 1:
Facebook Live. Stay around, because we're going to talk about, we're going to look at results of studies done using ketamine and the results and how they fare. So definitely, and I'm going to tell you where to go if you're might be interested in getting more information about this or actually even getting ketamine therapy for yourself, fair enough. So those of you on Facebook Live, stay there, we'll be right back. Those of you listening to audio, jump ahead to the next episode or it'll be there on Tuesday or Thursday. Sweet, all right, folks. Before we go real quick, here we go. Our Detroit dog rescue. Who is it Today is Whiskey Whiskey. Whiskey is a German shepherd mix, male. Was just born in September, so puppy, like three months old. She'll be about 50, 60 pounds. Dog friendly yes. Kid friendly, over eight. Cat friendly unknown.
Speaker 2:
And Whiskey is an American born dog because its last name is spelled with an E Y, not just a.
Speaker 1:
Y Not. Oh, look at Whiskey.
Speaker 2:
That's a puppy, puppy. Yes, look at that face. Was it a German shepherd and a beagle? Those are some short legs.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, it doesn't look like a little stubby, kind of like a it does Right, I mean I got to do this.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, look at the legs this way and down, up and up, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, was it a little thing right now? Yeah, stubby legs, yeah. So Whiskey needs a home. He's at rescuecom, check it out. He's, he is, he's, he's ready. Look, he's ready. He's sitting there waiting for his adoption. Yep, go get him. Go get him. He wants a home, all right.
Speaker 2:
Whiskey Three. Three of your stuff's will equal like five of his.
Speaker 1:
Right. So you might have to carry him for his first year of life or whatever. So, all right, folks, join us. Next episode, we're going to finish up on our ketamine therapy and give you a lot more information about that Hallucinogenic therapy. We're focusing on ketamine because that's again the most commonly used medical one, and we'll get into that.
Speaker 3:
All right.
Speaker 1:
All right folks. Change your thinking, change your life. Laugh hard, run fast, be kind.
