Prepare to have your mind stretched through time as we unravel the captivating tapestry of hypnosis's history and evolution. My co-host Matt Fox and I, charting a course from the enigmatic origins of ancient practices to the polished methodologies of contemporary hypnotherapists, promise an audio odyssey that will leave you spellbound. We pay homage to the likes of Franz Mesmer and his theatrical animal magnetism, dissect the pioneering medical innovations of John Elliotson, and discuss the eye fixation technique introduced by James Braid. You'll also hear about Sigmund Freud's flirtation with hypnosis and how it shaped his future work, and the indelible influence of Milton Erickson, whose indirect techniques revolutionized therapeutic approaches.
This episode is a treasure trove for the curious minds seeking to grasp the profound transitions hypnosis has undergone. Listen closely as we share tales of James Esdale's ground-breaking pain management in surgeries and Emile Coué’s mantra that continues to echo through the corridors of self-help. You'll understand why Freud—or Ziggy, as we affectionately refer to him—abandoned hypnosis and how Uncle Milti's subtle strategies contrasted with Freud's intensive psychoanalysis, setting the stage for modern hypnotherapy. Join us, and together we'll trace the fingerprints that these giants of hypnosis have left on the world, and speculate on where this mesmerizing practice might lead us next.
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Change your thinking, change your life! Laugh hard, run fast, be kind. David R. Wright MA, LPC, CHT The Motor City Hypnotist
Prepare to have your mind stretched through time as we unravel the captivating tapestry of hypnosis's history and evolution. My co-host Matt Fox and I, charting a course from the enigmatic origins of ancient practices to the polished methodologies of contemporary hypnotherapists, promise an audio odyssey that will leave you spellbound. We pay homage to the likes of Franz Mesmer and his theatrical animal magnetism, dissect the pioneering medical innovations of John Elliotson, and discuss the eye fixation technique introduced by James Braid. You'll also hear about Sigmund Freud's flirtation with hypnosis and how it shaped his future work, and the indelible influence of Milton Erickson, whose indirect techniques revolutionized therapeutic approaches.
This episode is a treasure trove for the curious minds seeking to grasp the profound transitions hypnosis has undergone. Listen closely as we share tales of James Esdale's ground-breaking pain management in surgeries and Emile Coué’s mantra that continues to echo through the corridors of self-help. You'll understand why Freud—or Ziggy, as we affectionately refer to him—abandoned hypnosis and how Uncle Milti's subtle strategies contrasted with Freud's intensive psychoanalysis, setting the stage for modern hypnotherapy. Join us, and together we'll trace the fingerprints that these giants of hypnosis have left on the world, and speculate on where this mesmerizing practice might lead us next.
FIND ME: My Website: https://motorcityhypnotist.com/podcast My social media links: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/motorcityhypnotist/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCjjLNcNvSYzfeX0uHqe3gA Twitter: https://twitter.com/motorcityhypno Instagram: motorcityhypno FREE HYPNOSIS GUIDE https://detroithypnotist.convertri.com/podcast-free-hypnosis-guide Please also subscribe to the show and leave a review. (Stay with me as later in the podcast, I’ll be giving away a free gift to all listeners!)
Change your thinking, change your life! Laugh hard, run fast, be kind. David R. Wright MA, LPC, CHT The Motor City Hypnotist
Speaker 1:
In this episode of the Motor City Hypnotist podcast, we are doing history of hypnosis, part two. If you've not listened to part one, jump back in episode, you'll be caught up to right where we're at. Or you can listen to this one and go back and do that one. It doesn't matter, you know you're getting all the same information, just in different order. Right, it's crazy. So, yeah, we're doing history of hypnosis part two. Yeah, and it's really interesting how things develop over hundreds of years. Now they become much different than what they originally were. But we're going to talk about that and we're going to bring it right up to date, to current times, all right, and, as usual, we're giving away free stuff. Hang in there, folks, we'll be right back.
Speaker 2:
Get ready for the Motor City Hypnotist, david R Wright. Originating from the suburbs of Detroit, michigan, he has hypnotized thousands of people from all over the United States. David R Wright has been featured on news outlets all across the country and is the clinical director of an outpatient mental health and hypnosis clinic located just south of Detroit, where he helps people daily using the power of hypnosis. Welcome to Motor City Hypnotist David R Wright.
Speaker 1:
What is going on, my friends? This is David R Wright, the Motor City Hypnotist, and we're back with another episode of the Motor City Hypnotist podcast. Welcome back, welcome back. That is Matt Fox, the other voice you hear. Hello, hang it out on the podcast here in the palatial podcast your Voice, southfield Studios, and he's back and we're back. We're back after a little break. We did dig another episode. One is in. This is our second one after being back after about a month, so hopefully it won't be that long until next time. We'll see, we'll see. Now, you never know, life happens. It's crazy. Yeah, what's happened? Yeah, a lot of stuff happened, so it's crazy. So we're here doing a podcast. Shout out to Podcast your Voice, podcastyourvoicecom. If you're interested in doing a podcast, check them out. This is the way to do it, folks.
Speaker 1:
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Speaker 1:
Let me tell you where you can find me. My website is MotorCityHypnotistcom and I'm going to be pushing this for the next couple of months at least. That prom grad season is fast approaching and dates are filling up quickly. So if you are in a parent committee that is handling your high school all night party or your after prom party wherever you're at in the United States, even even shoot, I'll go to another country and do a show. Yeah, you want me to come out? I'll come out. Canada's right there, dude. I've done shows in Canada, right, I'm an international celebrity. Oh, great, odin's Raven. Oh, good for you, right? No, you're the other one we should do is.
Speaker 2:
I'm very important. I have many leather bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, yeah, absolutely so. Anyway, check out my website MotorCityHypnotistcom. Show, show inquiry. It'll take you right to the page. You can put your information in there and get a quote minutes without talking to anyone and then you can book it. You can sign and book it and pay your deposit. Everything's online, so you don't have to worry about getting ahold of someone or having somebody return your call. It's all automated.
Speaker 1:
Let's check that out, yep, my social media Facebook and YouTube are both MotorCityHypnotist, and on Snapchat and Instagram, both MotorCityHypno. That is HYPNL, yeah. And, as usual, we give away a free hypnosis guide every single show. We're at 254. I think this show is Love it. Every episode it's there. Pick it up, take it Jaws, it's free. Yeah, text the word hypnosis to 313-800-8510. If you need that number, check the show notes or just go right to my website. The phone number is right on the front page. Man, you make it easy. The biggest thing wherever you're listening, even if it's on Facebook or on whatever platform you're on iTunes, spotify, stitcher or whatever wherever you get your podcast, leave a review. That would be super helpful because it helps us get out to more people and more people listen. It's just a great thing, yep. And the big thing is also subscribe. That way, you'll get new episodes as soon as they drop. You don't have to look for them. That'd be great. Yes, alrighty, okay, it is time. Matt, here we go.
Speaker 2:
That's how winning is done.
Speaker 1:
Okay, okay, so this story is about a garbage man. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:
Okay, all right.
Speaker 2:
This is a mess.
Speaker 3:
Thank you for the reminder. I'm going to take trash out tonight.
Speaker 1:
So GNN often reports on life-saving rescues by firemen risking life and lung to pull people from burning buildings. But these two are not firemen and are a different sort of hero. Okay, they are heroes, no doubt, but by trade they haul trash Nonetheless. While working in Tipton, england, on Tuesday morning, they saw fire ripping through a small brick townhome and rescued a man, a woman and their dog. Okay, steve Whitehouse and Kevin Marriott worked for Circo Garbage Collection and it was Whitehouse who first jumped into action.
Speaker 1:
I saw young women screaming from the balcony and all I could think was that I needed to get to her as quickly as possible. Whitehouse told the BBC. Whitehouse climbed up to a first floor balcony three times to rescue the trio from the flames. He first carried the woman down, but when he turned back to help the young man, he found he was shouting to his dog still inside, bundling the dog in a blanket. Whitehouse climbed down and told the owner throw the dog to him. After catching the dog, the garbageman returned up to the balcony to help the man. Oh, so they got the dog before the man.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, the man wrapped the dog in a blanket and dropped it to the Whitehouse. The dog was on the ground.
Speaker 3:
It's a good thing. The dog's name wasn't. No, come here no.
Speaker 1:
No, no. Meanwhile, whitehouse partner Marriott went door to door shouting for people to get clear of the connected townhomes. Okay, yeah. So one person went to rescue mode, the other one went to, like, clearing everybody out Right To keep them safe. Jeez, both the man and the dog suffered from smoke inhalation. When 19 firefighters arrived from West Midlands Fire and Rescue, the dog was treated on site while the man was rushed to the hospital. I have no doubt that without Steve's incredible bravery, the outcome could have been very different, said senior firefighter Chris Green. I have no idea how he managed to do what he did. It was heroic. The fire and smoke were coming out of the properties rear door like a blow torch Right. According to the BBC, the two garbage men debriefed and recovered over a cup of coffee and went right back to finish their collection rounds. So a coffee and then we'll go pick up more garbage, right, right, I'm just I'm having the movie Men at Work, so back to it.
Speaker 3:
The movie Men at Work is going through my head, with Charlie Sheen and me and the US to Vez Right. It's just going through my head at the moment.
Speaker 1:
So the last line of the story. Not all heroes wear capes, but some of them wear what whatever garbage men wear, right, that's what they are.
Speaker 3:
So going back to the dog, though, they say that's just that people in their fur babies yes, oh, I know. And the dog you know had smoke inhalation. Right man to go and find the dog in the fire.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, wrap him in a blanket and get him. I mean, you know honestly, you know our dog passed about a year ago, but I would, yeah, I would do the same thing for my dogs, absolutely.
Speaker 3:
Just don't name your dog. Help, yeah or no, or no?
Speaker 1:
You have a brain like a chicken. No, dogs are smart.
Speaker 3:
Sometimes you go outside calling for your dog, help, help.
Speaker 1:
I give you my name Shithead or roadkill, like from the jerk.
Speaker 3:
Yes, yes, where should?
Speaker 1:
I, where should I All right?
Speaker 3:
Hold on, I got to find the name.
Speaker 1:
Steve Whitehouse and Kevin Marriott. Yes, thank you guys. Absolutely Winners of the week.
Speaker 2:
That's how we did it.
Speaker 3:
I've been getting a crap ton amount of whose line. Is it anyway Real? Oh I love those, and that's where the no and the help came from.
Speaker 1:
Right.
Speaker 3:
Because like an unfortunate names for dogs.
Speaker 1:
Okay, and the lady?
Speaker 3:
walks out. Help the Ryan Styles walks out. Come here, roadkill Come.
Speaker 2:
Boy, that escalated quickly.
Speaker 3:
I mean, that really got out of hand fast, I don't have my own materials.
Speaker 1:
No it's all good. No, I love those. I do the same thing, Matt, because like I'll just be on YouTube or just even online and I'll run into those and I'm like, oh, I got to watch a couple of movies.
Speaker 3:
I live my life through movie quotes and song lyrics?
Speaker 1:
Absolutely yeah. That's why we have all the stuff on our you know.
Speaker 2:
Oh, I like this in the background. What the fuck is it with you that?
Speaker 1:
was not in a movie. No, that was not, but it was during the filming of a movie. Yes, it was yeah.
Speaker 3:
It wasn't meant to be recorded during the filming. No, no, it wasn't meant to be recorded.
Speaker 1:
In fact, we have a lot of fun.
Speaker 2:
The fuck are you doing, I got one wrong.
Speaker 1:
Sorry, that was from a movie. Yes, it was. Where's the other one for that? Oh, good for you. No, no, don't shut me up.
Speaker 3:
That's Christian Bale that I like this in the background.
Speaker 1:
What the fuck is it with?
Speaker 1:
you yeah just losing his mind. Yeah, I know it's so, I know it's such an unfortunate thing and he probably, you know, he's still getting shit for it. Oh, I'm sure, I'm sure, but it's so good he's not going to use it. Yeah, of course. So we are talking about folks, the history of hypnosis, and we ended last episode. We went through history up to Franz Mesmer, who was born in 1734. Right, so we're going to move forward with Mesmer, because Mesmer was one of the most influential hypnotists in history and he was using magnets. He started using magnets, yes, okay, so he was a student of Maximilian Hell, who was a physician who used magnets, and again, he used those. He applied magnets to the naked body of patients to cure them from their diseases and illnesses.
Speaker 3:
So Maximilian Hell sounds like an MCU villain.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, doesn't it A little bit? Yes, sounds like a hooligan. Now you listen to me, mister God. Did not put me on this earth to be awakened by filthy suggestions from a foul mouth hooligan like you.
Speaker 3:
You see their pointing the finger. You know shaking the finger.
Speaker 1:
So, anyway, mesmer was born in 1734 and lived to 1815. Now, even as I say the name, that's where Mesmerism comes from.
Speaker 3:
Right Was Franz Mesmer Mesmerized.
Speaker 1:
Mesmerized Mesmerism. Now, in case you guys don't know, there was actually a movie done about Franz Mesmer. I okay, Alan Rickman starred as Franz Mesmer.
Speaker 3:
You did mention that once before.
Speaker 1:
Yes, when the movie came out in 1994, I have watched it. It's entertaining, it's very kind of informative. It seems a little when you see the archaic medical procedures of the day it's kind of like, wow, this is crazy. But I mean, we're talking about the late 1700s and 1800s. So you know, we talk about things evolving over time and medicine is no different. You know, shoot, we had places called insane asylums as recently as 50 years ago, right, so you can see how things progress and evolve over time, especially as far as medical treatment goes. Sure, so Mesmer was was really as a physician. He was maligned by other fellow physicians during his time, just didn't, didn't enjoy because of, because of his, his practices and his beliefs. They did, they thought it was a.
Speaker 3:
A joke, or farce, or farce or just something ridiculous.
Speaker 1:
So, in addition to be in addition to the word mesmerism coming from Franz Mesmer, the other thing that he coined was animal magnetism. If you've ever heard that phrase that was coined by Anton Mesmer, I've got quite a bit of it.
Speaker 3:
Yes, thank you.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, franz Mesmer. I'm sorry, wrong, wrong mesmer. I know I said Anton, I don't know where.
Speaker 3:
I came from, but I have a lot of crazy. Yeah, I'm very. I'm very magnetic, yeah, franz.
Speaker 1:
Mesmer. So he coined the term animal magnetism, which was was the belief that the human body gave off these, these, these magnetic Wavelengths. Ok, and that's where he coined that. So, in Mesmer himself, was was what they considered like a I would call it a showman, it was very Flamboyant.
Speaker 3:
OK, and and hey, look at me.
Speaker 1:
Look at me, I'm doing this, I just gravitate towards. So if you think about a typical like thought when I say, oh, like old time hypnotist, what comes to mind?
Speaker 3:
What comes to mind when I say old time hypnotist.
Speaker 1:
Yeah.
Speaker 3:
Oh Jesus, so much yeah.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, and he specifics like I'm thinking of a watch, haka watch. That's why I'm in front of you.
Speaker 3:
Yeah Right, count back from 100. That's another.
Speaker 1:
That's a good one. How about clothing? Ok?
Speaker 3:
Now we're going to unbutton.
Speaker 1:
So we're talking about, like the goatee beard and a cape in the swinging watch. Oh, he's all came from Mesmer. Oh, my goodness that that was all from him, so he's a showman, he's a magician.
Speaker 3:
Yes.
Speaker 1:
Well, in a way he was a magician of the mind at that time, but but he played up the whole, the whole act of being able to cure people, like the focus was on him, not on the treatment itself. Gotcha, does that make sense? All right? So, yeah, so Mesmer was much maligned by his professional colleagues at the time because of his out. You know his outrageous theories, I will say outrageous behavior. Well, that too, because again, he was, like I said, he was flamboyant and you know goatee and the cape and all of that.
Speaker 3:
I'll let you get into it, I'll be right back.
Speaker 1:
So going further, like after Mesmer, the next famous or the next significant figure in the world of hypnosis was John Elly at sin, who lived 1791 to 1868. He was a professor at London University and he kind of took hypnosis and started using it because he thought it was a very resourceful or very positive and successful way to treat people with mental disorders and even physical disorders. Interesting note John Elliott son actually introduced the stethoscope to England. So I don't believe he invented it, but he and he introduced it to the country of England as as a tool for medicine. After Elliott sin comes the one of the next real pioneers of hypnosis was a British gentleman named James Brade. He lived from 1795 to 1860. He was Scottish and he was an eye doctor. So he's an eye physician.
Speaker 1:
So what he did? He started this whole, the whole thing of object fixation. When I say object fixation you can go back to the swinging watch example. That's kind of a kind of a caricature of old hypnotists swinging a watch in front of people eyes. Now here's the big thing. Eye fixation is actually a thing that I use now, even today, in these modern times, because eye fixation helps you to get to that relaxed state. So, for example, if I'm working with a client in my office or client in a show, during the induction part that's the part where you relax people into the state of hypnosis I have them fixed on an object, whether it's across the room or towards the ceiling, but I have them stare at that object. It's called an eye fixation and what that does it creates in general it creates a fatigue or a stress in your eyes. So that helps you to just shut down and relax. So that is again a technique that we use today in modern hypnosis is eye fixation. And that came from James Brayde. Sorry, I lost my note there for a minute.
Speaker 1:
So the next major figure in hypnosis was James Esdale, from 1808 to 1859. So he recognized that the enormous benefit of hypnosis was pain relief. And what James Esdale did? He went further than the prior predecessors of hypnosis. He performed hundreds of major operations and surgeries using just hypnosis as his only anesthetic. So no drugs, no injections, no IVs. He strictly used hypnosis as a form of anesthesia during operations and surgeries. After Esdale comes Emile Koo, 1857 to 1926, he moved away from conventional approaches of hypnosis and pioneered the use of what we call auto suggestion. So he's best known for the phrase, and this is, I know, fellow hypnotists who use this. Now, day by day in every way, I am getting better and better. That is the mantra that he would repeat to people while under hypnosis to make them feel better. And Koo also came up with what we know as the placebo effect that if you believe something is real, it's real even if it's not.
Speaker 3:
See, and that's like a catch 22.
Speaker 1:
Well, I mean, you see, most qualified medical studies have a placebo trial or mixed placebo trial. There's always a control group that get a placebo and group that gets the real medication so they can compare if this real medication has an actual value to it. We'd be surprised how many times the placebo group improved just by thinking they were getting something beneficial.
Speaker 3:
Absolutely Fair. Yep, we talked about the placebo effect with ketamine?
Speaker 1:
Yes, absolutely yes. Okay, so the next, this is the huge name of the whole group Sigmund Freud. He lived from 1856 to 1939.
Speaker 3:
But you can call him Ziggy.
Speaker 1:
We can call him Ziggy or Freudie, whatever, what a stupid wiener name is that. So and I don't know if and we've talked about Sigmund Freud before, but he was interested in hypnosis and he used it extensively in his work in the beginning of his career. Eventually, he just abandoned the practice. The whole, the whole shebang yeah he just he just gave it up. One the biggest reason was he wasn't very good at it.
Speaker 3:
Could it be because he was Sigmund Freud?
Speaker 1:
Yeah, so there was a TV show Freud on Netflix not too long ago, maybe a couple years ago. All right, if you look it up, you can find it.
Speaker 1:
All right Series, limited series and it does somewhat accurately portray his, his dabbling in hypnosis. Okay, so what happened was and I'll give you a quick story on Freud he had an assistant Right, it was a woman, yes, and he had to. He had to demonstrate hypnosis in front of this whole medical board. They were coming for a conference. So he got with his assistant and said just play along, sure. So he ended up hypnotizing her and she wasn't playing along, she was actually hypnotized during this thing and it shocked the hell out of him Because she said afterwards she goes, I wasn't pretending, sure I. Something was different.
Speaker 3:
You know, I'll check it out.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, and then after Freud becomes, Uncle Milti. Milton Erickson lived from 1901 to 1980. Wow, 79 years old. He was a master of indirect hypnosis, so he was able to put a person into trance without even talking about hypnosis or saying what the thing was he was going to do. Huh, it just happened. Yeah, he just would put them into a trance just with conversation.
Speaker 3:
I thought I'd listened to that radio show, wasn't it called Pillow Talk, pillow Talk, mr Alan Alda, yeah, what in places?
Speaker 1:
are you talking about Okay sidebar? I actually won a dozen roses. I know you did From, yes, yes, from Alan Alda. I called in, I got through, I won a dozen roses.
Speaker 3:
Yeah, but I would imagine that Uncle Milti had that type of a soothing voice.
Speaker 1:
Yes, that soothing voice, and that just kind of cadence that helps and really that is a lot of hypnosis it is, it's a rhythm, it's a cadence, and if you look at good hypnotists they just have this banter is what I call it and it just kind of just kind of eases people in. Yeah, absolutely so. The other thing with Milti, a couple of things that he specialized in. He was the founding president of the American Society for Clinical Hypnosis and a fellow of the American Psychiatric Association Wow, okay, the American Psychological Association and the American Psychopathological Association. So he has noted for his like, his research and work in the unconscious mind and his approach was to be creative and solution focused, and I think this is where it kind of advanced. It took a big jump. Hypnosis took a big jump forward as far as okay, let's focus and resolve the issue, let's get a solution from this. Interesting.
Speaker 1:
He's also the one who introduced what we would call brief therapy as a doctor. So brief therapy is an approach that says let's get to the root of the problem, resolve it and get it done as quickly as possible, let's not spend years. Whereas Freud's approach psychoanalysis was four or five sessions a week for a couple of hours, and the way psychoanalysis works is the therapist doesn't ask you questions. Yeah, they just listen. The therapist sits behind you, they just let you talk and they take notes the whole time. So it's free association. It's just where your mind takes you and you just talk for an hour and then. But a full psychoanalysis could take years and you can see how put it in the context of today. Could you imagine if I had a client come in and said hey, we're gonna do psychoanalysis for the next five years?
Speaker 3:
No one got time for that For four or five times a week.
Speaker 1:
No one has times for it, and one two insurance wouldn't pay for it. No, it just wouldn't be covered.
Speaker 3:
So the brief therapy is like ripping the bandaid off.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, the brief therapy is just like. Let's get to the point and get it resolved.
Speaker 1:
Period when we made quick work of that I did dedicate his professional career to the advancement of hypnosis and he was committed to the methodology, the scientific methodology, of the way hypnosis works, and he was an advocate of regulating the profession so that only trained professionals could do it Sure, which again was a huge step forward. So Erickson's clinical innovations on the practice of hypnosis are credited with its like renaissance and it's like so. It kind of had a wave, but then Erickson brought it back with a vengeance, let's say so. As far as as Progressing or advancing hypnosis, eric's almost probably the biggest person there was got it. So why? Why we call him arguably the father of modern hypnosis. Plus plus, he lived more more recently. I mean, you know, he lived in 1980, right, so right.
Speaker 3:
You know we got a lot more information on uncle Right we have on yes, absolutely, and plus, it's just more modern, it's.
Speaker 1:
It's it's kind of and again time, as I said, everything evolves, medicine evolves, hypnosis evolves, and it's. It's gotten to the point where he was working the modern times Right and and it's just a little bit more, but how much has the world changed since 1980?
Speaker 3:
Well, that's a good question. And the technology that we've gained, and right. So I can only imagine where hypnosis is going to be in the next 40-50 years. Hmm, who's gonna be that next, uncle Melty?
Speaker 1:
Well, see, here's. Here's the issue, that that and this comes in when we talk about Hypnotherapy in particular like working with clients to resolve issues. So the US Department of Labor Supplies the following definition for hypnotherapists. I'll read it quickly because it's kind of long Hypnotherapists induces hypnotic state in a client to increase motivation or alter behavior pattern through hypnosis. Hmm, consults with client. Determine the nature of the problem. Prepares client to enter hypnotic states by explaining how hypnosis works and what the client will experience. Test subject to determine degrees of physical and emotional suggestibility. Induces hypnotic state and client using individualized methods and techniques of hypnosis Based on interpretation of test results and analysis of the client's problems. Wow, okay. Some states hold the term therapist to be licensed medical professionals. Therefore, using this term and not being a licensed professional would be practicing without a license. Now, we've hit on this before, especially back in our episode when we talked about when hypnosis goes wrong.
Speaker 1:
Yes, we did which we're gonna bring that back to right, because I think it's that one was way in the beginning. Yes, it was probably the first couple episodes. So here's the thing there are, there are, and I'm gonna I'm gonna end with this there. There are no governing bodies for hypnotists. There's no licensure, there's no certification as far as a state or or or National certification. Yeah, so, as a therapist, I'm a licensed professional counselor. I'm licensed by the state of Michigan to practice. That's my license, just like a medical license would be the same thing.
Speaker 1:
Sure, hypnotists don't have that. You could be and this is not a knock on plumbers, but you could be a plumber, go and take a course for two hours and say you're a hypnotist or hypnotherapist, because there's nothing regulating. Sure, now, there are a couple states Florida is one, colorado is another, there might be another one where people cannot call themselves a hypnotherapist unless they're licensed mental health professional, like yourself, like myself. Most other states don't have any type of requirements for that. Hmm, so when you hire or see a hypnotist, be sure this is the question asked Are you also a licensed mental health professional? Because I'm going to say this if they're not, walk out that don't go.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, because Again there's no regulation, there's there there's no standards. There's no oversight right for a lot of these people. Mm-hmm, because they call themselves a hypnotherapist doesn't mean they're a licensed mental health professional, right? So ask that question that is the big thing.
Speaker 3:
Good advice.
Speaker 1:
Absolutely All right, folks. That is the history of hypnosis. That's a. It was the cliff notes version it was. It was fairly quick, but we got through most of the major names and and got the important points across.
Speaker 3:
I'd like to learn a little bit more about mesmer.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, absolutely, you know well, I think we did a thing on mesmer a while back. Uncle Milti, we did uncle Milti. Yeah, I know, we don't know. That was the Erickson.
Speaker 3:
Yeah, we did, we did talk, so we got talk more about mesmer. Yeah, yeah, I'm curious about more. Yeah, we'll do?
Speaker 1:
we'll do that, we'll put. We'll put one out there for mesmer, all right, all right, folks, before we go. Oh, somebody needs adopted. Okay, who is it? Prancer? He was born September of 23, so a few months old. Okay, nick's breed, male, will be about 50 60 pounds. Okay, dog friendly yes, cat friendly unknown. Kid friendly yes, older than five. Okay, here's prancer.
Speaker 3:
Come on.
Speaker 1:
Look at that. I know Prancer needs a home and if you're lucky, it might get Rudolph maybe or.
Speaker 3:
Blitzen or Blitzen.
Speaker 1:
Or Donner or don't. Yeah, yeah, all of them Did they come anyway. They come with a sliver. Prancer needs a home. Detroit dog rescue calm, check it out. He just wants to cuddle up next to you, yes, he wants to lay on the couch with you. That's what he wants. Yeah, all right, prancer. Yeah, prancer needs a home.
Speaker 3:
Thanks, I got them. He needs it.
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