Is TikTok's Time Running Out in America?

Is TikTok in Trouble in the USA? Join Anthony and Jhanilka as they dive into the potential ban of TikTok and its impact on users and creators. From data privacy concerns to the future of content creation, explore the complexities of this issue and its implications for the digital world. Learn about strategies for creators to adapt in uncertain times and discover insights into the changing social media landscape. Don't miss out on this insightful discussion!

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Speaker 1 0:00

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Speaker 1 0:28

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Speaker 2 0:30

You're not clapping , you're staring at the camera . I wasn't sure , and we posted a video about family reactions , so be sure to check that out as well . But what are we talking about today ? Tiktok is possibly going to be banned from America , possibly going to be banned from America , and recently the vote was a landslide , with Congress voting in favor to ban TikTok . They basically said that either the company sells it , I guess , to us us being America or it will be banned on all , like Apple , google Play . You won't be able to purchase it anymore . So I was saying , well , I said to Anthony , well , why would they sell this to us ? Like , how does that even ? Why would that make sense ? Are we the biggest consumers , we being Americans ? And like , maybe that's a good question .

Speaker 2 1:15

I have no idea of the stats , of the numbers , because , as we know , tiktok is a worldwide thing and the impact that that has . I know a lot of people were speaking about the impact that has on creatives and people that have blown up from TikTok and that we know from TikTok . What does that do to them and their following ? The hope is that they have built things outside of that , or that they at least have a YouTube or Instagram or just other ways , email list , that type of stuff that people can tap in with them if they do not . Um , that's kind of like a full change in finances in life . I saw a creative say follow us on snapchat which snapchat still around well , I've seen people coming back on snapchat .

Speaker 2 1:57

I was gonna say I saw people coming back on snapchat so I think it's becoming a bit more popular again , but I don't think it compares to instagram and tiktok at this point .

Speaker 1 2:04

But yeah , that's so . You asked why would ? Why would they sell ? So one of the reasons if if you're so , I my thing is I think we we don't want tiktok in the us unless we own it , because you said they want the data , like we have the meta , we have , like we have everything essentially that we need here and we don't get any data from , from tiktok , us being the us . So the way they built the tiktok platform is that they were like I , just like most platforms , they go through these cycles where they want to get as many users on there as possible . So , like when you first got on tiktok , you know , a couple years ago , you post something and you go viral like that was the thing , like they wanted , oh , you could get easy credibility . You get easy , um , I don't just walk .

Speaker 2 2:47

He never walks out because the doors usually close .

Speaker 1 2:49

I don't know go ahead as we record , like so you get easy credibility , easy fame , you know insta stats , whatever , and essentially people get on tiktok like yo I'm gonna blow up on here . So a lot of people kind of create their name from TikTok . So the problem is that we don't own any of that data in the US . You know , we're all about data . We want to control it , we want to manage it , we want to essentially use it for whatever we're going to use it for . So if China did , or the owner of TikTok or whoever it whether it's a personal , individual , team , company , whatever it's how to sell it to us , they would need to decide okay , well , I'm selling it to them because yeah , I'm selling it because us is my biggest market .

Speaker 1 3:30

If I can't be in my biggest market , I'm wrapping this thing up , and that would be the only reason they would sell it .

Speaker 2 3:36

Or they would just say f off us and keep this thing pushing now I I don't know that I feel like tiktok should oh necessarily be banned completely . However , I think there should be some regulations around it , simply because I feel I think I've mentioned this before me as an adult , I indulge in TikTok a lot and it is very , let's say , addicting . You can be on that thing . If you're not on TikTok , stay off . You could be on that thing forever because it just keeps going . It feeds to you exactly what you want to see and read and engage in . So I think that there should be some type of limitations , particularly with the kids , because I'm like , as adults , if we're doing this , what does this do to our children , teenagers , etc . Etc . So , in some form , there should be I don't know , a cut off , some something to control um tiktok in some capacity , but I guess , because America doesn't own it , they can't control anything .

Speaker 1 4:27

So they're like let's just ban it all together on top of what you said with the data part probably so why would it be up to TikTok to regulate your children's behavior , wouldn't that be ?

Speaker 2 4:36

on you . That's what you think .

Speaker 1 4:37

Wouldn't that be on you as a parent ? Yeah .

Speaker 2 4:40

But how much regulating are people able to do , really , when your kid may be at school eight hours a day ?

Speaker 1 4:44

There's not much regulating . Take it off their phone , block it Right .

Speaker 2 4:49

There's options there . There's options , but how much people one are really doing that and how much kids are actually sticking to that ?

Speaker 1 4:57

I think that if Alani got to the age where we had to regulate her social media . We would absolutely do that . It wouldn't be . I wouldn't expect TikTok or Facebook to put something in place that says a kid can only be on here eight hours . It would really be on us as parents .

Speaker 2 5:11

Some type of limitation . I mean , that's the same thing with YouTube , right ? I mean , people say that they're they're watching YouTube kids , and then the commercials are what you call it . The ads that come up are not for kids Technically . Who are you blaming then ? You blaming YouTube or you blaming yourself ?

Speaker 1 5:26

I'm blaming me , because if you go to YouTube for kids , youtube is kind of regulating a little bit , but you could set parameters on if you want to pay for not having commercials , you want the YouTube premium , you want all this other stuff . So I think , as parents , we would have to regulate that more than the application itself , because things are still going to slip through . Are you going to sit there and blame tiktok ?

Speaker 2 5:45

not forever . I don't agree that it's all on them , but I feel like , because of the way the platform is set up , it still should be something in place for kids , because that's another thing . How many people are children on their platform compared to adults or like young adults if you were 18 and younger , all that type of stuff ? So that's just a conversation , not , I don't feel like they should ban it because I actually love the app . I find it to be one of my favorite apps . It's basically twitter and tiktok for me , but um that's where we are at this point .

Speaker 2 6:12

I actually hate it well , you don't , you don't watch it , you don't hate it .

Speaker 1 6:17

That's a strong word . You don't hate it . I don't enjoy tiktok all , but you be on it . What do you mean ? I don't send you TikToks all the time . So I'm on TikTok because you send me videos , but I'm not on TikTok because I'm consuming content . I really , if you look on my app , let's actually pull it up right now .

Speaker 2 6:33

Well , we can't tell we're signing on to the same thing . No , I could go screen time , oh , and see how long , and see how long I actually spend on on tiktok . I go through waves . Sometimes it's like , oh , I'm over it , and then sometimes I'm like on it , on it this week , I think I'm on it .

Speaker 1 6:48

I go through waves of it website and activity instagram messages , mail x , youtube , nike run slack , facebook safari podcast photos . Whats Is that ?

Speaker 2 7:00

for this week or in general Threads music weather , my weather app .

Speaker 1 7:06

I'm on there longer than I'm on TikTok .

Speaker 2 7:08

My weather app .

Speaker 1 7:10

Whatever , if that gives you any indication on my time on TikTok .

Speaker 2 7:15

it says about five minutes a day , that's you , but the rest of the world is on it .

Speaker 1 7:20

Maybe not everybody . I'm on my weather app longer than I'm on a Tik TOK .

Speaker 2 7:24

What are you doing ? Checking just to run , probably with the weather app but either way that is what's happening in the world on Tik TOK .