More Than A Side Hustle
The Power of Running Your Own Race w/Ozzie Palmer
Join me as I chat with my personal trainer Ozzie, who transformed from overweight to a fitness guru and marathon runner. We dive into the mindset needed for running success, sharing wisdom on pushing through pain and listening to your body. Along the way, we discuss the importance of good coaching, the inspiration from figures like David Goggins, and the lessons learned from overcoming setbacks. We wrap up with tips on maintaining autonomy in training, setting boundaries, and prioritizing health. Tune in for insights on living a healthy, fulfilling life!
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Join me as I chat with my personal trainer Ozzie, who transformed from overweight to a fitness guru and marathon runner. We dive into the mindset needed for running success, sharing wisdom on pushing through pain and listening to your body. Along the way, we discuss the importance of good coaching, the inspiration from figures like David Goggins, and the lessons learned from overcoming setbacks. We wrap up with tips on maintaining autonomy in training, setting boundaries, and prioritizing health. Tune in for insights on living a healthy, fulfilling life!
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What's going on, guys? Welcome to another episode of the more than a side hustle podcast, where we help nine to five us create more impact, income and influence outside their jobs. And today I got a special guest with me. Man, this is this is literally my personal trainer, and we're not just talking about we're not gonna be talking about personal training today. We're gonna talk about the mindset around. I told you, guys, I was running this half marathon and we just completed it, and I was able to do it with the help of my guy Ozzy here.
Speaker 2:So, oz, before we get into the episode, you know, let the people know a little bit about yourself and then we'll kind of kick it off so my name is Ozzy uh, go by Ozzy on Instagram a little plug for my handle, um but I kind of got into fitness about 2011 and, uh, one day I woke up I was 30 pounds overweight and I figured out from a photo and I was like, why ain't nobody tell me I was fat?
Speaker 2:And then at that moment I locked in and then I had a couple ups and downs and we actually had a slight conversation and it kind of described our journeys like when people fall off the wagon when you go back to it, the time off the wagon gets shortened. And up until 2011 to about 2016, I was up and and down, up and down, and then at that point I got certified as a trainer and I knew that I wanted to help people learn from the mistakes that I made. And then I started doing fitness consulting, training in person, taught some group X classes, picked up boxing when I lived out in LA for a bit, and now I'm transitioning more to online coaching and, since I am a new runner who have ran a few races, I'm trying to help other people balance the wanting to run for good cardiovascular health and also maintain their muscle mass and aesthetics.
Speaker 1:That's perfect right there, and one of the things you had helped me do was and I'll talk a little bit about the race We'll talk about the race and what that entailed 13 miles half marathon 13.1,.
Speaker 2:let's not rob ourselves 13.1 miles.
Speaker 1:We're not going to rob ourselves from that. And you guys listen to the episode. Oz was actually on episode number 15. So you guys can go back and check out that episode. He goes into his background about everything he just said in a lot more detail. But I came to him when I said I wanted to run. So I think you guys listen. You guys listen to that episode where I said I want to run a, a half marathon, this year and I told you guys why I want to do that. I wanted to get to running but I needed a hard enough goal that was going to keep me consistent. And I hit up oz. I was like yo, what do I need to do to make this happen? And you came to me, was like yo, we're to lock in and your biggest challenge is going to be staying healthy. Why do you feel like that was the case?
Speaker 2:Well, I know that we're friends because we have a similar personality. We take the I'm going to run through the wall approach. The problem is you only need to run through the wall on race day. Any other time is premature. And I've learned from my own mistakes of taking how I built myself as far as strength and thought that I could do that with running. But when we're older we are deconditioned.
Speaker 2:There were just a lot of things that I knew we were going to run into and I also knew that I didn't want to give you a plan. I wanted to talk to you because I need to know how you feel, because I know if I said, hey, go run six miles and you hurt, you would have went and did it. But I know if I said, hey, go run six miles and you hurt, you would have went and did it. But before I gave you any direction, I'm like, hey, how are you feeling? What's hurting? What's your plan for your run?
Speaker 2:It was more of a conversation and I think that to me that's what coaching is, because you can have the best athlete but if you don't know that their back is hurting or their knee is hurting and you tell them to go run a play or go run a drill. Now you're putting them at risk of not being able to play in the game. That might be most important, and I think that is if you don't get injured, you'll eventually get good. If you get injured, you have setbacks. The setbacks isn't the goal. Whatever you're trying to do that leads you to get setback, that's not the goal. Now, if you get injured on race day, that sucks too, but at least you completed the goal.
Speaker 1:Yeah, with that one, you mentioned, um, the coaching aspect of it. Now a lot of us like, listen, I'm gonna get up, I'm gonna run, I'm gonna do that, I'm gonna do my own thing. But you guys know us in the hardsack household, we always want to go to experts that you know, people that have done the thing that we have, that we want to accomplish. And the first thing I said was, instead of me trying to figure this out, I know you just ran a full marathon, which is 26 26, 26.2.
Speaker 2:It was actually 26.44 because of how I ran the course.
Speaker 1:So I know you just ran a full marathon and that motivated me. And that's another thing too, like being around people who are motivating you to get better. So you know, you, our friend Zell, um, our friend Cy, you guys ran a marathon and I said after that I need to get back into running. I think that same day I told you guys, you motivated me to get back into running. But the coaching aspect was super important, because you've done the thing right and I didn't want to lose weight, I wanted to still lift and you was like I've done the thing. I'm going to show you how I did the thing. Why is coaching so important, especially when it comes to fitness?
Speaker 2:The coaching is so important because you're going to have beginner blind spots. That person has experience, so it's not anecdotal, it's not something that they read in a book, it's an experience that they're actually having. So, as I was mentioning to you before, we started, recording every issue he had during this race I had already. So I already knew like, okay, this is what needs to be done. And when I looked at the mileage I had for my marathon ran almost a hundred more miles than the two people I ran the marathon with and they were healthier than me. So I I was like too rigid with making sure I had all my long runs. So you're that mean, you was like over training. I wasn't over training. I wasn't giving myself grace. I think my training the whole process of only training for a marathon is 12 weeks is asinine, like no one should do that Wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 1:Can we Hold on? Let's go back, let's go back, let's go back, let's go back. I forgot you, so I'm going to put it in context. Can we put this in context? So I went from zero to half marathon in 12 weeks. You went from zero to full marathon marathon in 12 weeks. That, and I said I needed more time. You are absolutely nuts for doing that. Why, what?
Speaker 2:what? What would make you do that? Why would you do that? So I think my dad used to say this to me. He said all you got is your word and your name. I committed and I had to stand on principles, that that's what I gotta do so.
Speaker 2:It's funny how I even got into running. So when I lived in la, I would do five miles on the weekends at Santa Monica Beach Beautiful wind, perfect little tailwind to push you forward and then when I moved back to Dallas I wasn't running anymore. It's too hot, it was too hot and it gets too cold.
Speaker 1:There's no scenic routes and it's flat, no beach.
Speaker 2:So I had a coworker. She was saying she's going to do a half marathon and then there was a guy who worked with me. He was like oh, Ozzy's so fit, he should do it too. I'm like no, he's like come on, Ozzy, this would be great team building. I'm new to the company, I'm playing the game, so I thought I needed to do it. So I got lucky. She left. So then Like hey, let's do a marathon. I was like bro, you're bugging, Like we should just do a half. He was like you could do a half right now and I was like he's right, I've ran and walked 10 miles.
Speaker 3:But I didn't realize how big of a difference that additional 13 miles is.
Speaker 2:I mean, it's literally double the distance. It's literally double. But it's not like a 5K to a 10K or a 3-miler to a 6. So at that point I was like, oh, I can do it. I'm listening to David Goggins books on every long one.
Speaker 2:Sarah Jake sermon master, like I'm so dialed in. I'm like delusionally dialed in to the point where I think I can just increase my mileage increase. Then on my my night, my uh 19 mile run, I injured myself on mile eight but I got David Goggins playing and I'm like I'm gonna keep running. So after being able to tap into that Savage bag, I never want anyone to have to tap into that until before race day. And I knew that once you got there, no matter what body showed up, you would be able to finish. I didn't want you to take the approach I took for training, because then I had to run the race with the Steph Curry ankle braces All jokes aside like I literally could not flex my ankle on a day at a race. I probably shouldn't have ran the race. But what I did was I showed myself I can do more than I thought, even though I was ill prepared. So I had to do the dumb thing to learn how to help people do the smart thing.
Speaker 1:Man, you ran with an ankle brace and you couldn't move, so you're running with, essentially with a boot on.
Speaker 2:Basically so my foot was like a club. So if your foot's supposed to flex like, my foot was hitting the ground like this every step for 26 miles.
Speaker 3:Damn.
Speaker 2:And it took another six months to be able to run without any type of compression on my ankle after it was over.
Speaker 1:So you got hurt training, yep. And then you got to the marathon and you ran it hurt Yep. And you're like, okay, I'm gonna run, I'm gonna keep this running thing going, because you're still running today the reason I I don't want to let something defeat me.
Speaker 2:It's an it's an inanimate concept of running, like it's if you're ill prepared. That's why things defeat you, because you're ill prepared. So I was like if I would have been prepared as I am now and I ran into the same issues, then I might have been a little defeated, but it was actually encouraging knowing that I did that without knowing everything that I know now and I kind of can be obsessive with information. So I start to dial into. I didn't know about the hybrid athlete before I started running.
Speaker 1:What's a hybrid athlete?
Speaker 2:A hybrid athlete. Basically I don't really like the term, but it's basically just an athlete, someone who runs and lifts. And once really like the term, but it's basically just an athlete, someone who runs and lift. And once I figured out how to not lose weight and run, I was like, oh, this is what I, the code I've been trying to crack for forever. Because a lot of people say, oh, I don't do cardio because I don't want to lose muscle mass, but it's just knowing, doing enough research and understanding your body enough to test and try and do things, to keep doing things like, all right, this didn't work, I'm gonna try this again.
Speaker 2:So in the midst of me running, I kept dealing with issues and as I was learning, I was like, oh, this is, this is similar to business, this is similar relationships. You try something, you take notes, you do an after action report and then you go back and that's why I like running, because I don't like it and there is no, there's no, there's no carrot at the end of the stick. Every run's hard, every sucks, and even when you run a race, it's people. Who was smoking me? Like, literally, when we ran the half, there was a marathon runner who had passed me. I was like all right, I'm letting too many of these marathoners pass me and I was like all right, I got to focus in to make sure, and that was my little competitive streak during the race.
Speaker 2:But I think that running a race is literally everyone's running your own race and it's not something you can beat and you can't cheat. Run it. There's no steroids for it, there's no special supplements you have to put in the work, you have to put your feet on the ground and I feel like I've said this before with things that are fair and equitable I'm gonna always support. Rather, somebody got 10 million or two dollars. When you tow that line, it don't matter.
Speaker 2:That 13.1 to 13.1.
Speaker 1:And you ran with your father. And what was super dope to me was that when you're running with your pops, how old is your pops?
Speaker 2:My pop's 59. He'll be 60 in December.
Speaker 1:Your pops is 59. He'll be 60 in December and he just ran his first half marathon. He's not a runner currently, he's probably running now he might start running some more and he went from zero to running a half marathon and when we got to the starting line it was crazy because he said he was like I'm too old to be out here and I'm like you, you're gonna see people then, you out here, probably running a full marathon. I saw this guy he was like six, five, maybe, like super in shape, running a marathon and he was running with this little lady she was probably like 75, and they were running that full marathon together and your father was like. When he said that he was like I'm probably too old to be out here, I'm like yo, this is your first run. You're going to see people who are almost damn near they got 10 years on you and they're going to be like double your size or a quarter of your size.
Speaker 2:And it's so funny. I was trying to give him that Like you're going to see people bigger, faster, slower, older.
Speaker 3:You have to run your own race.
Speaker 2:You have to stay focused and really it was a couple old people past us.
Speaker 1:Older than him.
Speaker 2:And he was like really, I was like listen, stay in your own lane, just focus on you, because at the end of the day, you, in your own body, you got to run this race. And also to echo what you said about you being inspired my dad was inspired. My dad came to pick me up after the race. I was broke up after the marathon and he still was encouraged and this is the most consistent I've seen my father be as far as like working out and he just completed his PhD last year and now he's running a half marathon, running a half marathon.
Speaker 2:I'm, like my dad, really leveling up.
Speaker 1:Late PhD in a half marathon.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like you know what I mean, Some of us don't even know our dads out there Like your dad out here doing it so like I was super proud that was like one of the best father-son moments. And, like you know, he lost 10 pounds I to make sure everything was working out. You know what I mean and I'm really proud. And then he texted me this week and said next year I'm going to do the 26.2.
Speaker 1:Okay, he could do that by the end of the year if he wanted to.
Speaker 2:He could, but you know he's going to baby step it. I respect it.
Speaker 1:Now, that's crazy, man. And I remember my first. I think my first run was back in like 2012, back in like 20, 2012 or something like that half marathon and your goal, and I think you kept reminding me throughout my entire training we were talking about running your own race. I kept comparing myself to myself. Back then. I was like yo, I ran the half marathon with no problem. I looked at my splits they was like nine minute miles, but that was also 10 years ago.
Speaker 1:So I kept comparing myself to myself 10 years ago and that was why that was my biggest challenge when I, when I started training, and I kept coming to you like yo, I need to be able to do this because I did it before. But you kept saying, like listen, where you are today is not where you used to be. You're a completely different person, completely different body. You gotta be ready for that. So why do you think that that type of mindset was so important throughout this, this whole training regimen? Because I see it all the time when it even comes to just business coaches like yo, you're not. You're not who you were, but then also, you're not everybody around you I think that's so.
Speaker 2:Basically, there's a concept called the contrast theory, that we notice things based on how different they are. For example, if we were to raise the temperature in the room by one degree, we won't notice the temperature is changing in the room until we get to the point where we notice and there's a stark difference of who we are now at 30 plus versus who we were at 20 plus at one point. I remember I ran a six minute mile. Somebody's gonna come scrape me up off the ground if I try to run a six minute mile right now.
Speaker 2:So I think it's just understanding like your life has changed you. You, um, I've been in car accidents that that affected my hips and my body. I also became a heavy weight lifter. I'm also 20 more pounds approximately than what I was when I graduated college. Obviously, I have more muscle, but it's the body is not the same, and also the amount of time we've spent sitting down. We also don't sleep as much as we used to when we were younger, and I think that what happens is you think that the previous you was the better you, but the story is better with the current you. To say all the things that we have going on and we're doing, what we're doing, is more relatable to people than saying I sleep 10 hours a day and I'm a full-time runner.
Speaker 2:No disrespect to the full-time runners, but they sleep eight hours a day, take a two-hour nap, then sleep another eight hours Like I'm lucky if I get eight two days in a row. You know what I mean. So I think it's important to understand that. Be here now, be where your feet are and I think that that's the biggest thing when you're running a race is be where your feet are and the ego is going to flare up.
Speaker 2:It happened to me during a race too, like at one moment I was like man, we should pick up the pace, but I'm like no, the goal is for him to finish mentally strong and to not be to cramp or injure. Like it's like you can always focus on another metric in your journey. It's like, oh, this is the most consistent I've been. You can look at your average steps or your average calories burn. It's like we get to choose what we focus on and what. What I notice is because, as I'm working with you, I was like I don't want him to get injured and be discouraged and say I'm not meant to run anymore or I'm too old for this. So I was like okay, how can I make sure he stay healthy? And these are all things I had to implement for myself, like if my feet hurt, don't go run, hop on a bike.
Speaker 3:Hop on a Stairmaster.
Speaker 2:Like hop on a stair, master, like those are things like there's one a, one b, one c, so you to know that you're not slacking.
Speaker 2:I think one of the things for me I feared being a lazy person. So when I wasn't in a position to, or wasn't in the best condition to, do things, I'm always kind of sometimes fearful of the lazy kid that I used to be, to rise again, and I think that because you're so good at what you do in your business, you want to translate, but there isn't a maturation, maturation process. That happens with running. We'll get to the point where you probably can run every day with no problem, but right now that's not where you are. And just think about when you first started the business. You you know making courses or you're coaching, or you're doing episodes and not really knowing what you're doing. Now you're surgical with it and I and I think that's because you have the you know the cliche 10,000 hours, and I know I don't have the 10,000 hours of running in, but I was like I'll never not run again and I'm not going to let this defeat me.
Speaker 1:Why do you think running is so important? Why do you? Because you've been lifting. When I was in college, I was lifting. I never ran. Even when I tried out for the football team back in my first college, I never ran. I never had a problem with running. It was just never part of what we did. Unless you ran track, I always lifted. So why do you think running is so important, especially at this stage in your life?
Speaker 2:I think running is important because it's spiritual. I think it's spiritual in a sense that there is no winning or losing. When you go on the run, there's no crowd cheering for you, there's no congratulations. It's a moment for you to be in your mobile office. That's the only time you're truly by yourself, only time you're by yourself and the chosen heart is the only thing that you actually have control over, because everything else in your life you're at the mercy of your environment, your family, and we all have to answer somebody, whether it be our parents, our kids. We're constantly being pulled.
Speaker 2:When you choose to do something, you can at least hang your hat on the fact that I chose to go on this run. So how much ever you smite mile three or mile eight, that was a chosen hard that you choose and I think that that's how you keep things in perspective is that when you choose hard, when hard hits you, you can kind of tap into that same thing hard. When hard hits you, you can kind of tap into that same thing. Check in with your breath, like nipsey said. He said focus on your breath is all about your breathing. That's what running's about and that's what life's about. If you check your pulse rate. You look at your pulse rate when you're rushing to work. I guarantee it's like you're doing a little light jog oh yo, what's going on, guys?
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Speaker 2:But if you take a moment, like, okay, if I'm late, I'm late, I'll get there. When I get there, let me get there safely, Take a deep breath, that's important. It's just like when you're on mile one You're like man, I got 10 more miles to go. Just focus on your breathing, like, let the breathing. Like the time you was listening to the metronome while you was running, it gave you something consistent to focus on, even the sound of your feet hitting the pavement. It gives you an opportunity to focus that you don't have that opportunity because we have so much stimulus coming in nonstop, nonstop Text messages is alert and I think that's why I believe that prayer, meditation and running the Holy Trinity no disrespect if someone else is disrespectful, but that's what that feels like to me that metronome.
Speaker 1:I agree with you. Running and that's why I used to love running back in the day was that was the only time I was truly by myself, even though I was running in Central Park. The atmosphere was amazing, but it was just me and the pavement just running step by step. And when I started running out here and I was training and I put that the metronome was literally just a beat. I listened to a beat for 30 minutes. It wasn't instrumental, it was just and I'm making that sound so that you guys can understand what it actually sounded like and I did that for 30 minutes. Now that could be some. I posted. I said could you run to this for 30 minutes? Somebody was like that's mind boggling, but for me it didn't. Listening to a podcast, listening to music? That's all being around other people. I was listening to that beat. It wasn't instrumental, it was just knocking every couple seconds. I was forced to focus on myself and I thought that was probably one of my most calm runs too.
Speaker 2:And one thing running does. It teaches you to control your state on demand right. If you're having a bad day at first, you might be bombarded or hit with a bad day After you've been having a bad day for three hours. It's not a choice Making a decision at like are you going to do what you said you're going to do? Are you going to complete this run? Are you going to figure out a way to make it a game? So, for example, during the marathon not this half marathon, but during the marathon I cramped down mile four and I was heartbroken. I had ran 20 miles straight two weeks prior, but I came out the gate too hot. So then I said, okay, let's make this a game. Run into the cramp come back.
Speaker 1:That was the name of the game Wait, wait so the cramp went away. What happens when you cramp during a run? So you stop, you stretch, so what?
Speaker 2:happens is your muscles are not conditioned for the duration of time at that speed. You're running that 20-mile run. I ran at about a 12 or 40-minute or so pace nonstop. I came out the first four miles at like a 10, 20.
Speaker 1:That's two minutes plus faster than what.
Speaker 2:I had been practicing. That's your body saying, nah, you wallowing, right now, 100%. I also I got into tutorial hell about what to do before waist week. So, like I wasn't eating my normal meals, I was trying to carb load. So my body was not prepared. And also, too, I took a caffeine pill that I had never. I just started using the caffeine pill a week before. It was 200 milligrams. That spiked my heart rate plus the adrenaline of the environment, so that means that even if that wasn't a too fast pace, my heart rate was too high. So now you start dealing with your lactate threshold, which is the point where your body is now creating too much lactate in the muscle and that's what causes it.
Speaker 1:So your eating was off Taking new shit before the run, and you're already starting faster than you normally would.
Speaker 2:That sounds like a recipe for disaster and once again, I literally went through every emotion. You know how they talk about, like the five stages of grief. That's what the marathon talk about.
Speaker 1:Talk about that experience, too, with the. So you caught a cramp at mile four. Yeah, how do you complete? Because you, you still finished. Yes, yes how do you? What was the? What was the emotional cycle as you're going through? So the first one is oh my agony, you're probably defeated. You're going through, so the first one is oh my agony, you're probably defeated, you're disappointed at mile four.
Speaker 2:So what I knew is my body was failing me, my lungs was good and my mental was good. So I was like, all right, two out of the three, that's 66%, it's almost a C. I was like, all right, I got two out of the three. So I told myself. I was like yo, bro, if you quit, this is going to haunt you until you have the opportunity to redeem yourself. And I'm like I don't want to tell someone. Yeah, you know, I almost ran the marathon. I was not trying to have that conversation.
Speaker 2:So I said, okay, walk, and I walk like michael myers. You know how in the movies, michael myers be catching people walking. You like that's how I walk. That because I had trained prepared to walk and run in that way if I had to. So I'm walking dumb fast, I'm like 14 minute miles walking, like I'm I'm moving.
Speaker 2:So then I was like, okay, the moment the cramp go away. Because when you, when you train, you start to experience cramps, it's like all right, it's like hiccups that happen in life. It's like all right, you just came from vacation. You know that, like after vacation, you normally had this three-day little low period where you're not productive or you're not working out. Now you got to figure out how can I take that three-day and return to one. I was like, okay, what can I do to get rid till the cramp dissipates and then run again.
Speaker 2:And then at that point I made it a game. I was like, okay, let's see how far I can run before the cramp. I was like, oh cool, you ran 5 that time and I just started like playing games with myself to make myself realize like you have to finish this. There was only one moment where I thought about quitting. It was mile 23 and a blister burst on my feet. Ooh, I had never had a blister on my toe in that manner before and it burst Literally the only reason I didn't call the Uber because I had to go back to the start line to get my stuff.
Speaker 1:So I'm like I got to finish. Now that sounds painful and absolutely disgusting.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was rough, but I think what running has done is it taught me to have the ability to focus and it's not personal. In its business, running is running has done. Is it taught?
Speaker 2:me to have the ability to focus, and it's not personal in its business. Running is not something that I'm jumping for joy to do. It is a business meeting that I have with myself and I think that what I learned from that like when you would talk to me about business pre-running the marathon I was kind of artsy, fartsy a little bit and I was just like, yeah, man, you know, I wanted to feel right. Running never, never, feels right. So once you realize like you can still get your goal accomplished without feeling like doing it, yeah, and then you'll do yourself into a better feeling. That's what running does. I tell people all the time I hate running. I was like why do you run? I was like because how I feel after it is gratification to me that I am a man of my word. I did what I say, did what I say, and I did what a high percentage of people aren't willing to do.
Speaker 2:And sometimes in this world where you're constantly comparing yourself to what someone else is doing, when it comes to the mindset and the physicality, I feel like I can go one-to-one with anybody in the world and that's something that I built myself. You don't know where someone started from in their finances or their relationship. But when it comes to physicality, that is a very equitable starting point. So that is a way for me to keep myself and self-love myself in the midst of all this comparison here to there, to there, to there. So that's why I love fitness, because I feel like it's equitable, and running just takes it to another level.
Speaker 2:I'm 185, with short legs. I should not be running marathons, or or I shouldn't be running at all, because the anthropometrics, which is the distance between your, your, your elbow to your finger or your foot to your knee, is not in favor of running. But that's why I do it, because someone who looks like me, who lifts weight, someone like you see, like, oh, this is, our stats are kind of similar, like our, like base weight is similar 170, 168, 175. And you used to be running. When I met you, you was running, I wasn't running.
Speaker 2:I was doing it for like, like steady state cardio to get leaner, and now it's a full circle moment again. We both like. Now we like, okay, we can hop in races together, we can do things, and I think that the camaraderie this create is unmatched now we gotta, we gotta run coming up soon.
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Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:And the things we normally would be doing going out, drinking, eating stuff like that. But now it's like we're getting up on a Saturday morning paying $100, $150 to do a damn run.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think the dope thing about it is you're the net sum of the people you're around and also the accountability through conversation, right? So I feel like we're always programming ourselves with the things we consume and the people we talk to. And I feel like for you, when you decided to not drink, I had a phase where I went without drinking and now I don't really drink either. So now I can see my friends without having to party and drink. We can go for a run together, and you know like there's like little memes going on that when you get in your 30s, people do this. I'm like, if the relationship is a net positive, I'm for it. If it's a neutral, I got to love you as a person. If it's a net negative, I can't do it, because I think, at the end of the day, time is the one resource that we don't get back. And you also don't feel crazy when your friends are engaging in the positive things for you. You know how many people like, oh, you're crazy from doing this. You're crazy.
Speaker 2:I was like I'm not crazy, I just want something more for myself. Like you're always reaching for opportunity to validate your human experience. Yes, I'm enough. Yes, I'm love. Yes, I don't need to do another thing and I can. I can quote, unquote, say I've given life all that I have, but at the same time it's like having a cookie jar. The cookies get stale.
Speaker 2:You got to swap those cookies out, you can't be talking about what you did when you was in high school or when you was in college. It's like what have you done recently For you? You have a daughter, I have a daughter. You started a business. You ran a half marathon.
Speaker 2:I went from entrepreneur to a corporate career and that's another piece about you left the corporate space, but I can't control when they promote me. But I can control if I get up to go run. So they always ask me at work why do you run? I was like because it's one of the few things in my life I have complete autonomy over and we don't want to believe that we don't have autonomy. But when I get out on the road, I'm at the mercy of the traffic. When I go to the bank, I'm at the mercy of the line. When I'm working with clients, I'm at the mercy of my clients and, not to sound like in a deprecating or a less than way, the reality is the things that you do have control over. Push yourself to get more from yourself and everything else feels more manageable after that.
Speaker 1:So this is something I wanted for you, probably more than I think I'm the friend that gives advice, but I'm gonna give you enough to see what you do with it, because I was like I don't want to be the overbearing friend now you let me know if I am sometimes but my thing about you is like I love the fact that you you do this and I know you're very knowledgeable in a space, but on the on the actual training side, or consulting side, I'm like yo, there's so much more room for you in this space and I'm like it's missing.
Speaker 1:I've never seen someone that looks like me, that has a stature similar to me, that also runs and lives, that also breaks this down in a way where you don't have to stop your entire life, like you've never once said, well, you can't, you got to stop your entire life. Like you've never once said, well, you can't, you got to stop drinking. Or you got to stop I don't smoke, but you got to stop smoking, say yo, do it in moderation, which is not a normal thing for a personal trainer to say to people. So why do you think your, your method, your, your method is a little different than others?
Speaker 2:I think my method is different from others because it's like if you won't do it for a lifetime, don't do it for a day. And what do you mean by that? So when I say that, it's like if I said I'm training for a race and I completely cut all communication with my family, my friends, my significant other. That's not sustainable and I think when things aren't sustainable, people hate it. So you passed, uh, my info to one of your friends and I told him this is a structure and a framework, meaning that it's not the house, it's just a blueprint. You have to have wiggle room because you don't want to smite what you're, what you're doing. And I think what I learned is everyone's not going to have the same amount of time, the same sleep schedule, so you have to customize a percentage wise, right. If they're doing the right thing 85 to 90 percent of the time they'll get to their goals. And also, none of us are professional athletes, so we don't have to work out 310.
Speaker 2:The Mamba mentality race day, yes, the Mamba mentality during training that might not work because you're going to burn out and you're going to have mental fatigue and then you're probably not going to continue. So I think the reason it's important for is like it's integration, because integration turns into a lifestyle versus diet or a strict training regimen. I never tell people what to eat, I tell them why they should eat it, or I never tell you how much to run. I'm like, hey, listen, increase by five minutes. Now that means, okay, I'm not feeling it today. You might run a less distance, but you, you just ran. You still ran five minutes more. I think it's like if I gave this to someone who started today, would this be something that they would feel like they could do, even if they couldn't in that moment. Does it feel like Mount Rushmore or does it feel like it's just a little small anthill that they can jump over? You want people to feel like it's an anthill they can jump over, but have the work ethic as if they're going to climb.
Speaker 1:Mount Everest. That's crazy. You said that because, like my friend, he was like yo, like he's like Oz is different when it comes to this training stuff. And I was like that's why I connected you, because I know your lifestyle and I know you've gone from not eating this, eating this, to not eating that and I'm like, unless that's sustainable which he's done it for the course of time but it's like he's not going to tell you to stop doing those lifestyle choices. Those are your lifestyle choices and you're like I'm going to do rice and peas and stuff like that. He's like, all right, cool, that's going to be the focus, but we're not going to eat it as much. Right, you're going to focus on maybe having a smaller portion or changing interrupt you.
Speaker 2:I think that your family and your friends will be more supportive of the goal if the goal has a little bit of flexibility and you're reaching it. Because some people they call it like monk mode, where you get so dialed in, so focused, where you barely talk to your family, you don't go out and eat, you don't go out and drink. Now your friends are looking at your goal as an adversary, because they don't really.
Speaker 2:They want what's best for you that keeps them in your life yeah so it's a way of finding middle ground, to say, hey, bro, I'm going to pull up tonight, but I got a 10-mile run in the morning. No one's going to try to force you to drink if you say I got a 10-mile run in the morning.
Speaker 1:Hold on. Do you think I want to push back on that a little bit? Do you think sometimes it's actually more beneficial for a person to go into full shell mode to get?
Speaker 2:to their goals. It depends on your personality. If you are naturally a quote-unquote which I don't like these labels because they're relative if you are an extrovert and you can go into monk mode and pop back out I went into monk mode and never wanted to come back out and right now, as we speak I got a foam roller on the floor, a yoga mat, a lacrosse ball.
Speaker 2:Like my life is so entrenched in wellness that sometimes it's hard for me to connect with people when I think there are things that are, like, very obviously not healthy for them. Name one. You're going to say drinking. I'm not going to necessarily say drinking, just the mindset.
Speaker 1:There's nothing positive about drinking.
Speaker 2:There's zero positive about drinking, but what I will say is that I don't like when people have faulty thinkings about drinking Right. If I decide that faulty thinking is everything's in moderation. No, dog, that's poison. There is. No, it's just poison. Now I'd rather say I know it ain't good for me, but I'm out to drink it. Yeah, I'd rather that approach, because you're at least acknowledging that you're not being delusional with yourself and saying that oh, they say, if you drink right, you gotta drink like eight bottles of red wine it's like oh yeah it's some nonsensical number, but I also understand like who benefits from you drinking?
Speaker 2:the bars, the liquor companies?
Speaker 2:they're not thinking about what department exactly, and I lift right, and I say this that businesses don't operate off of morality, operate off legality. So if what they're doing is not illegal, they're going to do it. So when people go out and they have faulty mindsets about drinking, that will bother me, not like, yeah, I know this ain't the best thing for me and they don't have to say it to me, but just know deep down inside that's not the best thing for you. That's like me going to the gym and getting under 600 pounds and I've never squatted 400 pounds that's just a poor choice, yeah you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Like, oh, your life is at risk, your life could be at risk while you're drinking. You don't know what's going to happen while you're out there. I think it's the mindset. It's overdone, but the mindset is the piece, to me, that is going to give you the ability to start, stop and or keep going. So if you're out with your friends and you know that you can still like for example, denzel is a great example he can go to a company party and get up and run I need nine hours of sleep. If I got something I need to do the next day, I'm going to do it at five in the morning. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Like, I think that there's certain people, but you have to assess and be honest with yourself and not fall into the comparison trap of trying to do what someone else is going to do. Because I've been running a than me, I have two things working against me. So just by looking at that math equation, it's like why are you even comparing yourself to these people? Also, people who drink regularly. They can have three drinks. I have three drinks. It's clipped for me.
Speaker 3:I'm done the next day you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:so it's just understanding where you are and, yes, you want the camaraderie. Learned that if and it's like, hey, bro, let's go grab a drink, I'm like, yeah, bro, I'm not going to be able to drink with you, but we can grab coffee in the morning, I'm always going to provide that additional thing to let you know I do want to hang out with you, but it might not be in a way you want it to be. And when people are like, hey, do you drink? Gonna trip, but I'm not about, I'm not going to the same pub that we've been going through for years to get you know, plaster hammered.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. That's, the thing about me is like I, so I'm not as strong-willed as you and when it comes to that.
Speaker 1:So when I first stopped drinking, it was like I don't want to go out yeah genoa was like you got, we got these holiday parties, we got the christmas parties, we got the family parties. I'm like I do not want to go out because it's going to be. I don't think people will understand how hard it is, especially when you first are not drinking, how hard it is to be around people who are drinking, because now you're annoyed, you're upset, you want to go and I said I need to be in monk mode until I could handle my urges or my cravings or understand like I don't need to drink. So that was my thing. I was like I need to go into my own shelf a little bit. I mean, I don't think anyone even noticed. But I was like no, I can't do that or I can't do this, or if I do this, I'm not going to be there for long. So I think there is a, like you said, the type of person you have to know yourself. I know myself and I know I may not give into temptation, but I don't want to of annoyance. Where it's like I might as well do it since I'm here.
Speaker 1:So that was like when I first stopped drinking. It was like I'm gonna go into monk mode for a couple weeks, understand it and then it was like, okay, now it's only a problem when I'm at a, a huge event. Now I could be around friends and family, it's easy. Now that then the challenge was I go to the club. It's like, okay, I don't want to be here. Number one. Number two I need a drink. And number three was like what can I add into my life? That kind of balances, some of those things too, and I think balance is super important when you're trying to figure this out.
Speaker 2:And I think the thing for me that helped me I never met someone who was more successful or more fit to me in the way that I deem to be successful. That forced me to drink. Spiritual people or people who have really good dial-ins on their mental in a way that I do. They're not because they're okay with you're not drinking. While they're not. I don't need you to drink for me to have fun. Exactly Normally, people who are in better shape than me don't ask me to drink. So I started realizing like, oh, it's a comfort thing for the person because you're reminding them that they're doing something they probably shouldn't be doing.
Speaker 2:So if you do it, it you're complicit better. You know what I mean and I, and the thing is, I think these are. There's a I love this youtube video. It's by charlie munger. It's called the 25 cognitive dysfunctions of human beings. I listened to it for about two weeks straight and it literally outlines. It's called, like the rest uh. The reciprocity principle someone does something for you. You somehow, at a later date, feel like you owe them. The granny principle you say, hey, I'm going to go run this five miles and then I'm going to eat the cookie. It's like delayed gratification.
Speaker 1:I definitely did that, so once oh, 100%.
Speaker 2:But once you start understanding that, like the way people interact, it's just like business, right? They say people have to see something seven times before they buy, right, like, for example, with me. I don't want to sell anything to anybody, but I like stuff like this. If all my sale copy or my sale content was this, then I'm giving an opportunity for people to to listen in on the thing. So I think the main thing is just really dissecting, and you don't need to be.
Speaker 2:Sometimes people say that you're overthinking. I think overthinking is when people say you're overthinking, it's a way for them to undermine your thought process, and they could be right. But there's certain situations where thinking through things thoroughly is going to work best for you long term, and that's why, when you said what you said about like going and drinking, that was tough for me too. I started back drinking again because I moved to la, I'm vegan, I don't know anybody, and I succumbed to the pressure. But in the midst of me starting to drink again, I remember I was at rolling live with one of my friends who was a dj and he poured me this like big cup of vodka. I took two sips. It was like nah, but at that moment I was like all right, all right, well, pick your spot. So now, if I do drink, it's either A on vacation or two celebratory moments, and I always leave early and sometimes I'm going to hit you with the Irish goodbye.
Speaker 2:You might be like oh, we see your eyes and now we don't see them it's gone Because y'all know what I'm doing, because y'all are going to see it the next day in the morning and whatever. It's not like your eyes left us to go to another club, eyes left because he's like this is a slippery slope. I don't want to end up drunk. I don't want to drive drunk, I don't want to leave my car here and have to Uber, and I think that when you get to a certain point, you build enough rapport with your friends and family. They charge it to your behavior and not your heart.
Speaker 1:And if you, driving in the car, take a screenshot of your, your dashboard, tag us. Tag us on instagram. Let us know you are tapping in so that we can repost you and show you some love too.
Speaker 3:You can tag us at more than a side hustle podcast or at the heart your morning. We have two ways that you can tap in with us. We appreciate it, thank you you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Like, if someone doesn't pull up for me, I'm not like thinking like, oh, they don't like me like that or they don't want to be with me, it's they're prioritizing themselves. They're not thinking about you, so they're not not considering, just not thinking about you. And once I figured that out, I was like, oh, I'm in 100 control of every decision that I make. I feel. Very rarely do I feel out of control in the sense of like how I show up in the world man, this is.
Speaker 1:This has been enlightening and I want I want to go back to the business side of what's the name of your fitness company. What's the name?
Speaker 2:So I had a couple of names, and I'm going to tell you why I had a couple of names, because it's just where I was like where I am in my life, and the name now is Wellness Nomad. And the reason it's Wellness Nomad is because I feel like I'm a constant seeker of information when it comes to wellness and nomads move and I don't hold tightly to any ideas that I currently have, because when I get new information, I'm responsible to change and what I'm trying to do now is build out, educate people, not tell people what to do, and I haven't been able to figure that part out yet. I don't want to tell you what to eat, I want to teach you how to eat. So therefore, you don't need me, hire me, to fire me. I told your friend that you plugged me with. In six months you shouldn't need me anymore. I don't have any new tricks to tell you Now. If you need me for the accountability, that's a different story.
Speaker 2:I think that business itself like it's like ethical capitalism. I'm still trying to nail down what that feels like and I'm sure you see it right. There's trends that happen online where you feel like, oh, this is what's working. I got to do it. If it doesn't feel pure to me, I don't want to do it. That's why I have stints of where I'm in my bag, I'm posting, I'm posting, I'm posting, and then I feel myself like slipping into the trends and then I'm like there's no context with what I'm telling people. It's an opportunity to get them to engage with me, not give them fruit or water, like I like to think of myself as a well operator. I'm here with water if you need it, but you don't have to take it. So I haven't completely figured out how to juxtaposition online with that, but that's where my heart is could use you.
Speaker 1:There are people out there that could probably not even just use you. Use you in terms of the physical, it's just the mental, the mindset shift, the changes just helping people be better overall individuals, overall thinkers, when it comes to their physical, mental, spiritual health. But the problem is you're selfish why are you so selfish?
Speaker 2:you know what. You know what that's that's? That's a great way to put it and I think that and I'm gonna tell you where I'm selfish you remember the twitter era back in 08 09, where it was just reckless abandonment and you said I deleted all my tweets don't, even, don't even go back to that but look like I had to change.
Speaker 1:I changed my name to anthony hardzog. It was rockstar before and that's why your name's still in my phone still to this day.
Speaker 2:I changed that so you bring up a very interesting point, but I came from the era where we were know-it-alls, before we knew anything, and now we're in the eras where there's a bunch of false prophets, a bunch of crocodile tears, bunch of like, and my biggest thing is I don't want someone to see me and associate me with other things that they see that is in the realm of me. So that is, I guess, quote unquote, why I'm selfish. Because I believe that if I'm is in the realm of me. So that is, I guess, quote unquote, why I'm selfish. Because I believe that if I'm pure in heart, pure in intention, it doesn't matter how people respond to me. But I know that I have, uh, I feel like a fiduciary duty to be honest with people and I feel like right now it's like, oh, if it's working, is getting money. I'm like, nah, that's not what it is.
Speaker 2:And I think that what you and your wife do, you found a beautiful way. I'm a super private person. I don't show my daughter online, I show my pops, for the man have marriage, and I think that the full roundedness is what helps create the trust. Right, they see that, okay, he is living his life, he's not only just doing this thing. He doesn't have skeletons in his closet, no, did he?
Speaker 2:It's certain things that like, I think, for me, that makes me selfish, because I'm thinking about how I show up to the world and I'm not thinking about the information that I have to offer in a vacuum, and I think that that is the piece that you, saying that to me, struck something in my heart that you're right, I am being selfish and I'm not sharing these things, because this is what I live and breathe every single day.
Speaker 2:There's never a moment where I'm not pouring into myself, and it's moments where I want to share things with people. But when you got nine to five, you feeling all motivated, after your your workout, the creatine, caffeine hit, but now you got rushed to go to work, yeah, so I think it is necessary for me to prioritize these moments of coming here to do this podcast and let people know, like Rome wasn't built in a day and it also didn't fall in a day. You just need to stack more positive moments than negative moments and you'll be okay. And also, too, just understand that, like, be intentional in the things that you do and it'll eventually work out for you. You're right.
Speaker 1:This is my commitment I'm gonna, I'm gonna be less selfish. No one. If they don't know you, they can't flow you, and that's a that. That literally means that if they don't know who you are, they can't support you. They can't, they don't, they can't see you, they can't, they can't be a part of your atmosphere. Now you may say I don't want nobody a part of my atmosphere and I'm not telling you to be a full blown content creator either. But I'm just saying use the moments, because we've mentioned a couple moments where it's like, all right, you told me who you are, but what else?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I would. I would be. I would say this, like I do have people that I work with and I literally enjoy the hell out of it, Like I was telling him, telling you, you know you asked me questions at no point that I had to go on the Internet. I knew all this stuff like it's very free-flowing for me and one of the things is people are excuse my French people tend to be full of ish.
Speaker 1:Okay, I don't disagree with you.
Speaker 2:One of the biggest things is your unwavering trust in me and me, knowing your work ethic to me. You were doing me a favor by letting me help you and that's how excited I was to help you, and I think that it's just attracting. It's like I don't want to be Walmart, I'd rather be Neiman Marcus, like this is a luxury service that you don't have to buy.
Speaker 2:That's true this is not a catch all, and I think that understanding that life is math, right. So you know, you give consultations, you're a lot of like, oh I'll hit you back up, and then you start training with people, A lot of excuses. And my thing is that when I pray, I pray for personality traits patience, discernment, strength, courage Because when you pray for things, you don't know what the things you're praying for, what's going to come with that. So, as I'm, you know, rebuilding my business, I said God put the right people that I'm going to do the best for in front of me, Right, and I think that that's the thing it's like.
Speaker 2:If a thousand people saw me, maybe one percent of those or 10 percent of those might be people who I'm going to build a fruitful relationship, and they can fire me in six months and tell 10 other people. So now we have a referral funnel going in and I think the the the main thing here is I need to give and be okay with the inflow and then just sort through that, you know, and I think that that's going to be the next step of. You know, the piece of the business for me. Is that all right. I just need to show up be authentic. Don't look at the likes, Don't look at the metrics, Don't look at how many people. It's so hard because it'll have you questioning your self-worth because, like, for example, as I mentioned, the Twitter days, I had my shirt off era Shirt off every day.
Speaker 2:Hennessy bandana Like the first time I got abs it was in 2013, and nobody couldn't tell me anything. You know what I'm saying Actually 2011, but after I, you know, crossed and whatever. But at that moment, now that I'm past that point, I'm like that's not the most important thing. It might sell, but I'd rather someone connect with me because they're like man, he's still in shape, he runs, he prays, he has a corporate job, he's co-parenting, like those are the things I want people to say, why they're hiring me as a trainer. Not because look how ripped he is.
Speaker 2:You know, and sometimes you don't get to choose why somebody decide to work with you, you know, because it could be the gateway. The abs could be the gateway to the conversation. But I think the biggest thing for me is that I feel like I have a fiduciary duty to show up here in the world and being on the internet it will have you questioning that the foo-foo stuff is doing well, the goofy stuff is doing well and the legit, the legitimate, valuable thing, like, if I post a shirtless picture, lights go crazy. Yeah, I post a movement with a baggy shirt on, I get like four people engaging with me and I could.
Speaker 1:That could be. It's tough, it could be demoralizing. And then you see the people in the gyms hanging from the light fixture with the barbells and those are stuff. That that's the stuff that goes right, and I understand that. What would your ideal client be? To you, like what? Give me your avatar of the clients you're looking for, because it might be someone. Listening to the podcast, it's like I love what he's saying, I love what he's about and I want to work around on a deeper level. I want to weed out people who may not be for you I don't want to weed out anybody actually you know what I'll let him do that, but who would your ideal client?
Speaker 2:you know be my ideal client it's like going on a date, yeah, like my ideal client would be someone who has the utmost respect for themselves and they don't give themselves opportunities to weasel out unduly, like if you're injured or you, legitimately you know, something came up that prevented you but just having a commitment, being committed to your commitment, meaning that if you say you're going to do something, it would have to be hell and high water for you not to do that, and what I've noticed is it has to be someone who already has been successful at something else in their life. Rather it be your career, entrepreneurship, your relationship, because, at the end of the day, every time we lie to ourselves, we lose self-respect. So I want the client to have high self-respect for themselves and don't speak in a deprecating way and don't make jokes about yourself in a negative way, because this is not a joke, I think a deprecating way, and don't make jokes about yourself in a negative way, because this is not a joke. I think that when people be like, oh, ozzy, probably lifting weights for breakfast, yeah, I am lifting weights for breakfast, I'm not. Don't want people to feel bad about their desire to reach their goals, because if you look good, you feel good and if you feel good, you can do good, and I think that that is what I'm looking for is, or trying to be available for those people who just need the additional information.
Speaker 2:I spent, at this point, 15 years reading books. I have fitness books, I've been certified, I'm listening to fitness books, I'm watching content all day, every day, because it's legitimately something that brings me joy. I feel like when people say the body is a temple, you think if you're not putting something to defile your body, but you're defiling it by not using it to the full capacity, that at which you can use it. And I think that we sometimes do not equate how well you take care of yourself as a form of self-love because you like, oh, you're going to eat that fried chicken and that waffle and you're going to drink that alcohol and you're going to pop bottles.
Speaker 2:You think that's like somehow opulent. It's not, and especially in our community. Sometimes poor financial decisions is a sign of wealth, but when I see someone who has money and they're not in shape, they're not serious to me. You might be good at getting money, but that's one thing out of a myriad of things that are also important. So the thing to me is that someone who's willing to be a student and a beginner. Your trust for me shows me that, like when, when, when the connection is there, it's there. You text me any time of day, as soon as the first moment I got.
Speaker 1:I'm responding because I knew you were just coming. I can't be more invested than you are. You can't be sucking your teeth because I told you to go for a run that you asked me to tell you. Can you imagine you you hitting somebody else for advice? You're like I don't really want to do. It's like why would you hit them up if you're not going to take the advice? Yeah, I'm not that type of person, so continue, man.
Speaker 2:I think that the the main thing for me is that you people just really going inside and thinking about that why is so cliche, but it's so important? Like, at the end of the day, if I tell someone I'm going to do something, I got to do it because I said I'm going to do it. Now, if I said probably, maybe that's different, that's my way of saying it's probably not going to happen, but if things work out, then I'll do it. So I think it's just someone who's going to be committed and it's not.
Speaker 2:I want to look good for a vacation. I want to look good for the family reunion. I want to look good for my high school. It's somebody who's like yo, this is going to be a lifestyle for me, because if I can add an extra 7 to 10, 15 years to my dad life by being an inspiration to him, if I don't make another dollar, I did God's work. That's how I look at that. God's work, that's how I look at that. So this is an opportunity for me is to help other people feel more connected to their family, because we know it's a domino effect. Right, our daughters are going to do what they see.
Speaker 1:They see us running in the bag. Yo, daddy run, daddy run. Exactly.
Speaker 2:She's saying you run it so she don't got to go to daycare. You know what I mean. Like the thing is, I realized people do what they see and we become what we intake. So if you want to, let's say, work with me or someone like me, the best thing to do is text your mom or your dad or your homegirl about every single thing. Girl, I did 45 pounds on a goblet squat today.
Speaker 2:Make it a moment, celebrate the journey so that you don't have to wait to a finish line to feel like you won. And I think that the biggest piece is the mindset. Cliche as it might be, but I already made a decision. I don't want to pay bills, I don't want to prepare food, I don't want to go to work, I don't want to run, I don't want to lift weights. But what's the alternative? And sometimes it's like, literally, your back is up but you got to make a backup against the wall. Scenario in your mind Like I am going to get where I want to be, no matter what, and if I don't stop, I can't fail. It's only when you stop or you quit you fail. Oh, something came up. Listen, everybody can go for a walk on their vacation. Actually walk that liquor off, walk that Bahama Mama margarita off. That's it, you know. So, just knowing that, like you get ready to go out of town, you're like, okay, well, you don't want to sit on a plane and do this, boom, boom, boom here, do this exercise.
Speaker 1:Then, when you get back, do this Yep ran five miles on that Friday before the flight.
Speaker 2:But because that conversation was happening, you give me an opportunity to help you. If I give you a generic plan, now, that's your excuse to say, well, I was unsure about this and I didn even teaching people how to use chat GPT. If you want to share or type your question in chat GPT and send it to me and I'll be like nah, that's something to ask.
Speaker 2:Look, even now, whenever someone's asking me a question, I'm like, hey, these are the things you search for on YouTube, because my goal is not to keep you deaf, dumb and stupid, it's to empower you to not need me To make better decisions, a hundred percent. So that's my avatar of my client, someone who is committed to being intentional with themselves and are not going to let small things block their big blessings. It's one thing you walk in a room and know that you're giving life everything you have and I might be quoting the wrong, but I think it was John in the Bible. He said at the end of his life he just want to say I fought a good fight, that's all. That's all I want to be able to say at the end of the day is that I gave it everything that I had and my intentions were pure.
Speaker 2:I sleep well at night, not because I have everything I want or not because I was successful. I'm literally doing the best things that I think I have the awareness around. If I don't do something, is it because of awareness. It's not because I don't want to do it or I can't do it. It's awareness, it meaning that there wasn't a strong enough connection to the thing and me actually doing it. So, if a person is the least aware of what they're aware and not aware of and they're operating from whatever context or box they're operating from, now you're in a position to exceed. You can't get someone else's body, you can't get someone else's time, you can't get someone else's access or money, and it's futile to think that you can't. So if you have a certain body type, how can I have the best body within the confines of this body? How can I have the best mind in the confines of my human experience thus far? And it's just asking these questions and I know my, my shortcomings and I know that when, when that iron strikes, it strikes, I hate it running.
Speaker 2:Once I started, I was like, oh, this is why people do it and sometimes that's what it takes. So, like you said, I don't want to ask anybody out, but this isn't a cheering squad. I'm going to give you information that you can use. A hammer can be used to build or destroy, but you still have a hammer. You got something. You have an opportunity to change the way you see yourself going forward, and that's my only objective. In all the fads and the ketones and the vegan. Listen. Calories in versus calories out, effort versus excuses that's what it boils down to. My dad lost 10 pounds when he was 60 years old.
Speaker 1:I did my job, so let the people know how they could find you, man, whether it's instagram or email or website, so that they can reach out to you so, uh, my email is wellnessnomad at gmailcom.
Speaker 2:My instagram is azanitis. Um, please feel free to ask me whatever questions you have, but one thing I believe in reciprocity if you ask me a question and you know you're feeling motivated, actually dm me when you're not feeling motivated, because if you'll do it when you're not motivated, when you're motivated, you'll do it if you had, if you do it on a monday when you're feeling good, and then by wednesday I follow up. Hey hi, how's this going?
Speaker 3:Nothing, Nothing, right so this is the thing.
Speaker 2:Time is the one resource that we don't have, and you don't have to have unwavering trust in me. You can actually question everything that I say to you, but the trick is, by you going to try to prove me wrong, you're going to get hit with the learning bug.
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