Navigating the Soul of Japan and Embracing Mindful Journeys with Renee Protashu

Embark on an enchanting odyssey with Renee Protashu, a Navy veteran whose tales of Japan will whisk you away to the bustling streets of Tokyo and the tranquil, historical beauty of Kyoto. His 26 years in the service have cultivated a deep appreciation for diving into local cultures and learning new languages, enriching his travel experiences and now, ours. As Renee recounts his adventures, you'll feel the vibrancy of urban life juxtaposed with the reverent quiet of ancient shrines, compelling any wanderer's heart to yearn for the Land of the Rising Sun.

Ever wondered how the disciplined focus learned in the military could transform into a tranquil passion for meditation and Qigong? Renee did just that, finding solace and purpose in the teachings of Doctor and Master Zhi Gang Sha. His journey of enlightenment, chronicled in "Meditation Made Simple," serves as a beacon for those seeking a guide in the often tumultuous seas of life. Renee's anecdotes about personal development icons like Tony Robbins and Wayne Dyer offer a fascinating look into the transformation that comes with embracing meditation and service to others.

Finally, Renee doesn't just offer a peek into his life-changing practices; he dishes out indispensable travel advice for staying well on the go. Whether it's mitigating jet lag with thoughtful meal choices or discovering the unexpected Greek origins of cheesecake, these snippets are as educational as they are delightful. As we wrap up, there's a palpable excitement about Renee's upcoming movement meditation group, blending the soothing rhythms of travel with the healing power of meditation. It's a rendezvous with wellness and discovery that promises even more insights on our next episode, so stay tuned and join the journey.

Transcript

Zee Michelson Travel Podcast Interview

Speaker 1 0:02

Welcome to the Zee Michelson Travel Podcast . This podcast is devoted to the travel industry . Zee says let your imagination run wild and start dreaming about where you want to go . And dream big , reach for the stars , and if you only get to the moon , at least you enjoyed the trip . Your guide to travel is Zee Michelson , a travel advisor , and sitting at the controls is J Lawrence , your concierge of podcast travel .

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Now here's Zee .

Speaker 2 0:28

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Yes , I'm in a different location today . I'm on remote , so here I am .

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I know you have that weird headset with microphone on ? Yes , yes . You're making clicking sounds . There we go . You got to hold your mic still . Well , of course , I am Zee Michelson and that was my partner in crime there . J no , I'm your podcast .

Speaker 4 0:55

I'm your concierge of podcast .

Speaker 2 0:57

My podcast concierge Get it all right . Yeah , well , we have a great show planned for today . Yes , we do . We have Renee Protashu coming to the studio . Renee spent 26 years in the Navy Wow , most of it on the water , uh-huh On some big aircraft carriers and other ships that we have . So he spent a lot of time and he also wrote a book Meditation Made Simple . So we're going to be talking with him in a little bit .

Speaker 4 1:21

All right , and so do we have a travel tip coming .

Speaker 2 1:27

When are we having a travel tip ? After we talk with Renee ?

Speaker 4 1:29

Oh , after we talk with Renee , because I thought there was going to be a trivia question as well .

Speaker 2 1:34

We got that as well today too .

Speaker 4 1:36

So much things to do , so can we bring Renee in .

Speaker 2 1:39

Yeah , let's bring him in now . We have a guest right here in our studio . His name is Renee Protashu , and Renee spent many , many years in the military . He went into the Navy in 1976 in the Philippines and then was assigned to Japan and he spent 23 years in Japan . Am I correct on that , renee ? That's right 23 years in Japan , and then you also wound up in Hawaii .

Speaker 3 2:04

Yes , okay , after retiring .

Speaker 2 2:07

After retiring you went to Hawaii , but now you're retired here in the state of Florida because all your children are here . So tell me a little bit about your time that you spent in Japan . I'm sure you got some leave . Is that what they call it in the military ?

Speaker 3 2:22

Leave when you go on vacation . Liberty when you go off the ship .

Speaker 2 2:25

And you were on a lot of ships .

Speaker 3 2:27

Yes .

Speaker 2 2:27

Okay . So when you were assigned to Japan , you were on a ship .

Speaker 3 2:32

Yeah , my first assignment was a combat store ship in Yagosuka , japan .

Speaker 2 2:37

What's a ?

Speaker 3 2:37

combat store ship . It's like the replenishment ship that goes up into the ocean and brings the provisions to the other ships , oh , and brings supplies to the other guys .

Speaker 2 2:47

It's the Walmart on the left .

Speaker 4 2:48

Exactly .

Speaker 3 2:49

They is .

Speaker 2 2:50

So then you were on there and then you went on Liberty .

Speaker 3 2:56

No , that was my entire destination for 12 consecutive years .

Speaker 2 3:02

Oh , so you never got Liberty .

Speaker 3 3:04

Well , liberty is when you go home . You're on Liberty .

Speaker 2 3:07

Oh , okay , yeah , so did you have time to visit Japan while you were there ?

Speaker 3 3:11

Oh yeah , Okay Plenty . I visited the entire Japan actually myself .

Speaker 2 3:16

What was your favorite place in Japan ?

Speaker 3 3:20

I would say Kyoto .

Speaker 2 3:22

Kyoto , and why is that ?

Speaker 3 3:26

Because Kyoto is unique . If you go back in time , you know Tokyo is very modern .

Speaker 2 3:37

Metropology , very metropolitan , yes .

Speaker 3 3:39

Very big city . It's probably the largest city in the world . But when you go to Kyoto it's like going back in time in Japan . So Kyoto is practically like a museum in Japan , oh wow , because you'll see so many temples , shrines , parks ginger they call it and so many . Really , just , it's like going back in time .

Speaker 2 4:08

So you would recommend people , when they're going to Japan , not only go to Tokyo , but go to Kyoto as well Now , what other places in Japan did you go see ?

Speaker 3 4:17

I've been to Okinawa , which is the farthest island down south of Japan , right , because I was deployed there for seven months with the what we call CDs . Oh , the CDs Construction battalion , maybe mobile construction battalion From Okinawa to Kyushu , which is the southern part of the mainland Japan , in between like Kyoto , nagoya , and then you go up north , you go to Kanto area , yokohama , tokyo . You go up north and you go to Ominato , beppu , and then all the northernmost part of Japan , which is Hokkaido , hokkaido , which is the coldest part of Japan .

Speaker 2 5:05

Oh , how cold is it get .

Speaker 3 5:07

Oh , you have to dig your car in the morning Coming from snow coming from New York .

Speaker 2 5:14

I understand that concept now . Did you also learn the language while you were over there for many years ? A little bit .

Speaker 3 5:20

Just enough to they say , just enough to get myself in trouble right , because your face slapped right yeah , oh how , when you're Ohio , that's like the state Ohio . Huh Is good morning in Japan , Japanese .

Speaker 4 5:35

Oh , so we've learned something , I know one word , you know come on , give me a credit .

Speaker 2 5:39

That's what I'm always saying . Learn some some part of the language . Hello , goodbye , you know where's the restroom , kind of thing . Yeah , and people will acknowledge that , because a lot of people don't realize , you know they sometimes get insulted if you don't at least try to acknowledge where you are .

Speaker 3 5:55

And they're very receptive . If you give them a little bit of trying to learn their language , also they they become more friendly to you see , yep , see , there you have it .

Speaker 2 6:06

I'm not lying when I say people learn a little bit of the language . I mean , you don't have to become a linguist in it , but it's nice to learn it now . After you left Japan , you went over to California . Yes , I remember , you tell me you went to California when you actually wound up going up in rank . Yes you know , you wound up doing that and then you went to Hawaii . Were you stationed in Hawaii or did you just retire in Hawaii ?

Speaker 3 6:31

That's after my retirement from . From the time I left California I had to I was reassigned to another ship , which is Was the latest aircraft carrier at the time , which is . It was a Saberham Lincoln . Oh well , an aircraft carrier with about 5,000 people plus 80 plus aircraft . Wow , I became the assistant training officer of that ship and the educational services officer .

Speaker 2 6:56

That's a lot of people on one ship and I know the aircraft carriers are very , very large and it sounds like you spent most of your time at sea .

Speaker 4 7:05

Yes , wait a minute . I had a question . Did he say how many people are on that ship ? Yes , he did , he did . I miss it 5500 yes , okay , that sounds like one of our cruise ships cruise ships are getting that big now , but they don't have planes on them .

Speaker 2 7:21

Oh , yeah , yeah , so did you like being at sea ? I mean , you say you have three children , so obviously you got married somewhere along the line .

Speaker 3 7:31

Well , Two years after I joined the Navy , I got married in the Philippines , and that brought my wife to Japan . Oh great , I actually have two children born in Japan .

Speaker 2 7:42

Wow , two children born in Japan and Obviously you have three children , so you know you've . Your wife must have been used to she's he's holding up , for he has four children I have four children and so obviously your wife was used to you being at sea .

Speaker 3 7:59

Yes , and Thank goodness to all the support there are left behind in the port where we were located with our families because , without them , it's gonna be tough for sailors who are out there in the middle of the ocean for months Before we see each other again .

Speaker 2 8:20

So right and you . You got married in the Philippines . You brought your wife over to Japan and she probably left half our family over in the Philippines all her family oh my gosh , that's scary . That's scary , and I'm sure she was pretty young .

Speaker 4 8:32

I have a question , renee Did you spend all your time in the Pacific Ocean doing the military ?

Speaker 3 8:38

mostly , but we deployed in Southwest Asia , if you know where that is the Persian Gulf the Persian Gulf .

Speaker 2 8:46

So were you involved in that conflict ?

Speaker 3 8:48

Oh yes okay .

Speaker 2 8:51

Yeah , we can't , we can't talk about it , but we know that . You know he was there .

Speaker 3 8:54

Well , we can now , since it's already history right , it is .

Speaker 2 8:57

It is in our history books . So you've been to all . You've been to Japan . You've loved all the places that you visited in Japan . Kyoto was your favorite ? It sounds like yes . And then , as you moved on and you wound up in California and learning more and being sent out at sea again , you definitely have . You have to get your land legs coming up now .

Speaker 3 9:18

Um , yeah , sometimes , uh , you know , uh , when I was in Japan , we drove on the left side of the street , so when I come to the , to the US , and drive a car , sometimes I have found myself on the left side of this tree .

Speaker 4 9:38

Oh my goodness , oh my goodness .

Speaker 3 9:40

But I catch myself right away and it's like , oh Renee , pay attention , you're no longer in Japan .

Speaker 2 9:46

I didn't even realize that . Yeah , you know , because you know I'm very , very you know , if I think of Japan , I think of Tokyo and I think of a lot of people walking and going on public transportation and things like that .

Speaker 4 9:58

And driving down the other side of the road is England to me . Yeah , me too .

Speaker 2 10:01

England , australia . Yeah , mm-hmm .

Speaker 3 10:04

And your steering wheel is on the right side .

Speaker 2 10:07

Right , the wheel is on the other side of the road , ooh , ooh .

Meditation Made Simple and Its Benefits

Speaker 2 10:11

So now , while you're on the ship , for many , many years on ships , how many ships were you on ?

Speaker 3 10:18

Of USS White Plains , francis Hammond Reeves and the Abraham Lincoln IV Four .

Speaker 2 10:26

So you were on four ships , so you spent a lot of time at sea . Would you even consider going on a cruise these days ? I don't know Well you don't have to worry I don't mind going back to sea .

Speaker 3 10:38

My wife is the one who I need to convince , because even when I brought her to some of my ships , when we're in port , even when we're tied up to the pier , she gets sick , oh dear .

Speaker 2 10:50

Yeah , I don't think you can get her on a cruise right now .

Speaker 4 10:53

No , no , no , unless it's an aircraft carrier . Well yeah .

Speaker 2 10:59

He brought her on some of them . So now you spent a lot of time reading and studying up and from my understanding is you did a lot of self-taught and learning about meditation .

Speaker 3 11:15

Yes .

Speaker 2 11:16

Okay , and you find this is now your greatest venture is doing meditation and you came out with a book Meditation Made Simple . Tell me about your journey to get this book going .

Speaker 3 11:28

When I retired from the military , I was asking above , I was asking God . I said what do you want me to do for the rest of my life ? I'm 49 years old , I've got so many years ahead of me . Where do you want me to go ? What do you want me to do ? So I became a student of personal development . I because I don't really know where I was going . So I became a student of Tony Robbins , jim Rohn , wayne Dyer , esther and Jerry Hicks and many others . I have a whole library of books just for personal development Right , self-help and personal development yes .

Speaker 3 12:08

And then I got into Qigong also , which is Qigong is a . You know , tai Chi is energy . Oh , like a Tai Chi . Yeah , qigong is moving energy in your body and in the universe , see , because your body is the small universe and the big universe is the universe , right ? So I started learning that from a teacher who was in Minnesota that I've never met . I only ordered his course , right , so I was learning that . What was his name ? I was introduced to meditation with a transcendental meditation , and I was . I joined a group in the Ohio , california , and we used to meditate what about weekly or so ? So , when I moved to Hawaii in 2014 . And you said you were retired .

Speaker 2 13:02

When you moved to Hawaii , I was already retired then , right .

Speaker 3 13:05

So why did you move to Hawaii ? Because my wife accepted a position at Pearl Harbor . Oh , okay .

Speaker 2 13:14

She was a federal employee oh , fabulous Okay .

Speaker 3 13:17

And so we moved there and I was looking for a group of people . I was looking for a group that I could meditate with in Hawaii , and I found this book at the thrift shop at . Hickammer Force Base , and it's it . I grabbed it , and the only person who spoke about Dao , which is spelled T-A-O . It's not a religion , it's just a word that is used to describe what they refer to as God .

Speaker 2 13:50

Right .

Speaker 3 13:50

In a different language , right . So when I saw that book , I've heard of Wayne Dyer speak about Dao before , but I'd never had anything that could put my hands on about the Dao . So when I saw it I grabbed it and I read the book the first five pages and it's like , wow , this is so deep , I'd like to learn more about this . And there was a sticker in the back of the book and fortunately at the time there was a center in Hawaii and I called that number and they told me you're in luck , because the teacher is on the islands .

Speaker 2 14:24

Oh , that's nice , so you're able to see him and meet with him .

Speaker 3 14:27

I know and they told me . Well , he's in Maui right now teaching a course , but he will come to Honolulu on Tuesday He'll be doing a book signing at Barnes and Noble . I said what time ? And they said 6.30 . And I said , ok , I'll be there . So I went , so he was doing a talk , a short talk , before the book signing , and he practically spoke to my heart . He mentioned words that I've been looking for . He said the purpose of life is to serve . I commit my life to this purpose . To serve is to make others happier and healthier , empowered and enlightened . So I called the number because I was intrigued , right ? So , um , when they told me that he was going to be in Honolulu , I did . And then when I met him , I found out he was a . He is a doctor of Western medicine , he has a degree in medicine , he's an MD in .

Speaker 3 15:29

China . He is also a doctor of traditional Chinese medicine .

Speaker 2 15:34

So he does like acupuncture and herbs .

Speaker 3 15:37

He is yes , he is actually an expert acupuncturist . He would see between a hundred to 120 patients in a day . Oh wow , he was really well sought out .

Speaker 2 15:49

I would say that's a lot of patience in a day . You know , I , I , I believe in acupuncture because it has helped me many , many times over . So you know , I know when I go in what they have to do to get me set up with everything and it's like a hundred to 120 people , that's a lot of people .

Speaker 3 16:08

So , um , and he is also um a grandmaster of Tai Chi . He started learning Tai Chi at the age of six , oh wow , and he became a grandmaster at the age of nine . Whoa , it's like unheard of .

Speaker 2 16:25

Really .

Speaker 3 16:25

Yes , it really is , Because he is very connected above .

Speaker 2 16:29

So he became , he became kind of like your mentor .

Speaker 4 16:33

Yes , we haven't mentioned his name .

Speaker 3 16:38

His name is doctor and master . He's a doctor . He's holding up the book so we can see it .

Speaker 2 16:49

This was the book that he released at the time .

Speaker 3 16:51

Miracle Soul Healer . When I saw the book it's like wow , amazing , and this was written by William Gladstone , a Harvard graduate anthropologist . Oh okay , who did not believe in Master Sean Wood ? Who did not believe in Master Sean , what he did ? So he says I'll write your book , but I'll publish it , but I'm not going to read it .

Speaker 2 17:17

I'll write it , but I won't read it .

Speaker 3 17:20

He admitted that because I've met William Gladstone a few times and he said he interviewed all of Master Sean's top teachers and as the book went on before he finished it , he was like , wow , you are really amazing . And then he became a believer . He became a believer yes .

Speaker 2 17:43

And there's a lot to be said about this , because what happened is you took away and made something for almost everybody to read called your own book , which is Meditation Made Simple . So explain your book a little bit .

Speaker 3 17:56

Meditation Made Simple is actually from the teachings of Master Sean . I've learned how to be a teacher on how to meditate , how to really connect with your higher self , connect with the source , with God , if you may , because most of us , we always wake up in the morning with what we call the monkey mind .

Speaker 2 18:24

I believe that wholeheartedly .

Speaker 3 18:27

And we get into all types of suffering all throughout the day . So by the time we finish the day we'll warn out .

Speaker 2 18:36

Right , your brain wants to explode . Understandable , yeah .

Speaker 3 18:38

Or end up having migraines , headaches or different kinds of aches and pains .

Speaker 2 18:43

So what makes your meditation ?

Speaker 3 18:45

so simple ? It's very simple because you just really have to tune in to your inner self and align yourself with the universe and calm yourself down . How you quiet the mind ? Because when you quiet the mind , that's when your body rests and everything happens , almost like magic .

Meditation Book Promotion and Travel Tips

Speaker 2 19:12

Now people can actually buy your book . Where can they get the book ?

Speaker 3 19:15

It's available on amazoncom . There are two books on amazoncom that are titled the same , but my book has a kind of like reddish pink cover .

Speaker 2 19:24

Reddish pink cover .

Speaker 3 19:25

Yeah , and of course it has the author name at the bottom , so your name would be on the book , and your name is . Renee Protasho .

Speaker 2 19:33

Okay , and that should be easily found . So meditation made simple by Renee Protasho . It's on amazon , amazoncom .

Speaker 2 19:43

So if you want to buy the book and learn how to you know , ease your mind , I'm going to say tune in tune , in tune in and , as you can see , renee has spent a lot of years following this path and he's spent many years overseas and on the water , and water is very grounding . For some reason I love to be at sea because it's very grounding . But we do thank you for coming today and , you know , maybe we'll have you back in and talk some more about some of the other adventures that you went on with the , with the Navy .

Speaker 3 20:15

Absolutely . May I say something Absolutely Before we go ? Actually , I'm starting a group here at Trilogy of Orlando Fabulous , Starting on the 12th of April . It's going to be at the Artisan Arts and Crafts Studio and this is where I'm going to be teaching movement meditation , because we already have a somebody who's doing meditation . They do the silent meditation where they sit and just tune in . There are many types of meditation , and mine would be a movement , where we use movement , sound and mantra to really do self healing , if you may .

Speaker 2 21:04

I like the word self healing . There's a lot of people I think you know need to really get in touch with this because it might calm them down , might help with ulcers , might help with their crazy world . You know we live in a crazy world right now and a lot of people need this just to relax . So again , thank you , renee , for joining us today in the studio and I'm glad you know , thank you for your service , that you've spent 26 years in our military and I'm sure we'll have you back again . Thank you for coming .

Speaker 3 21:31

Thank you very much , my pleasure .

Speaker 2 21:38

So , as promised , I have a travel tip for you . Whoopee so with all of our traveling . You know a lot of us are getting on planes , planes , trains and automobiles . We're getting on the planes , and many of us are traveling hours on these planes , Right ? So there are ways to avoid jet lag , okay . Okay , first things first . You should eat small meals to avoid stomach aches or other problems .

Speaker 4 22:03

What if you get a good meal , like in first class ?

Speaker 2 22:07

Well , they're usually small . Yeah , they're not , like you know , big nine course dinners . Also , you should avoid alcohol , as it can disrupt your sleep .

Speaker 4 22:16

Yeah .

Speaker 2 22:17

So you don't want to do that , because I know when we traveled overseas we took a red eye and I do recommend , if you take a red eye and you wind up there at like 10 o'clock in the morning , stay up for the rest of the day . I know it's hard , but you know the alcohol and with also bother you Also the caffeine , and exercise strategically .

Speaker 4 22:38

Well , but okay when the alcohol ? Shouldn't that help you sleep ?

Speaker 2 22:41

No , Alcohol is a stimulant actually .

Speaker 4 22:44

It is .

Speaker 2 22:45

Yeah , some alcohol is a stimulant .

Speaker 4 22:47

How come I pass out every time I drink alcohol ?

Speaker 2 22:50

Maybe it's the amount you're drinking .

Speaker 4 22:55

Get me off the couch , please , please , what do you have ? A trivia question for me ? I do , okay .

Speaker 2 23:03

So you know , as we were talking with Renee , we had a lot of information that he gave us regarding meditation and self-help and all of that .

Speaker 4 23:10

Yeah .

Speaker 2 23:11

But one of the things that I just love to eat is cheesecake .

Speaker 4 23:15

Why would ? Why would eating be a Well ?

Speaker 2 23:17

because eating is part of my , my meditation .

Speaker 4 23:21

Really yeah .

Speaker 2 23:22

I love to relax and have a nice dessert or a nice dinner . I believe that Okay , so in which country did cheesecake originate ?

Speaker 4 23:31

It wasn't invented the United States .

Speaker 2 23:34

I know it threw me too , really yeah , when I was doing my research on this , I said whoa , okay , I've got two guesses .

Speaker 4 23:41

Okay , go ahead . Well , okay , england , and then France , and I think France would be the one yeah . Yeah .

Speaker 2 23:47

Ancient Greece is the word . Ancient Ancient Greece Cheesecake has been around that long , apparently Maybe not the way we know it .

Speaker 4 23:55

Yeah .

Speaker 2 23:57

But yeah , ancient Greece , wow , which doesn't surprise me , because they too have cheese over there in Greece .

Speaker 4 24:02

Yeah .

Speaker 2 24:03

So yeah , ancient Greece is where the cheesecake originated from . Wow , can you believe it ? Can you believe ?

Speaker 4 24:08

it . No , no , I really can't . That's amazing .

Speaker 2 24:13

Well , you know , we had a very busy day today . We want to thank Renee Protoshuta for coming in .

Speaker 4 24:18

Yes .

Speaker 2 24:19

And he was very informational . We may even have him back in the studio again to see how his meditation book is going .

Speaker 4 24:25

Sounds very interesting and .

Speaker 2 24:26

I think Jay and I are going to probably have to learn how to meditate too .

Speaker 4 24:32

I'm not sure I know how to meditate .

Speaker 2 24:34

I have a hard time with it . He might be able to enlighten us with it , yeah , yeah .

Speaker 2 24:39

But , like I said , there's so much traveling to do , so little time .

Travel Tips & Podcast Promotion

Speaker 2 24:42

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