Cycling Through America's Heart with Corey Mortensen

Have you ever felt the call of the open road, the allure of landscapes unrolling before you, and the promise of discovery with each mile? This episode features the remarkable Corey Mortensen, a best-selling author whose spontaneous bicycle journey from Minneapolis to California is as much an exploration of the American spirit as it is a personal odyssey. As Corey recounts his hitchhiking escapades to Antarctica and his heartwarming romance in South America, you can't help but be drawn into a world where every turn brings a new adventure and every encounter, a potential story.

What starts as a 98-mile challenge on two wheels unfolds into a transformative adventure that reshapes Corey's approach to life, stripping down to minimalism, and embracing the unexpected kindness of strangers. His narrative traverses the heartland of America, revealing a nation in the aftermath of 9/11, where solidarity flourished in unlikely places. Corey's vivid recounts and the colorful characters he meets along the way paint a picture of a journey that's more than a mere trip—it's a profound leap into the essence of what it means to be alive and mobile in a vast and varied land.

By the end of our talk, you'll not only be fascinated by Corey's extraordinary tales but also inspired to craft your own. From offering insights on how travel has the power to unite and transform us, to inviting our listeners to share their own travel stories, this episode is a celebration of wanderlust and its ability to reveal the world—and ourselves—in new ways. So whether you're a seasoned globetrotter or dreaming of your first big trip, join us and let the call of the unknown stir your soul and perhaps even chart a new course in your life's adventure.

Check out his website https://www.thebuddhaandthebee.com/the-buddha-and-the-bee

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Chapters

• 0:03 Travel Adventures With Corey Mortensen
• 6:12 Life-Changing Bike Journey Across America
• 13:06 Wanderlust Adventures and Writing Journey
• 24:38 Travel Tips and Podcast Promotion

Transcript

Speaker 1 0:03

Welcome to the Z Michelson Travel Podcast. This podcast is devoted to the travel industry. Z says let your imagination run wild and start dreaming about where you want to go. And dream big, reach for the stars, and if you only get to the moon, at least you enjoyed the trip. Your guide to travel is Z Michelson, a travel advisor, and sitting at the controls is Jay Lawrence, your concierge of podcast travel. Now here's Zee.

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Hey, that's me, that's me, I'm Zee and of course, I have Jay with me, the concierge of podcast travel.

Speaker 3 0:35

Zee, I am still. I want to know what the ticket price is to the moon. Yeah, you never know. To the moon, alice to the moon.

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They're starting to talk about going to other planets. No, oh yeah, it's getting crazy. No, yeah, it's getting crazy.

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I watched a movie the other day that there had been an astronaut gone to Mars and that he had come back from Mars.

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Right, that was a weird movie, was that that new?

Speaker 3 0:58

movie no.

Speaker 2 0:58

That was from an older genre, the movie was called the Box.

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Oh, so do not watch it.

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Don't watch it. It's not recommended. However, I want to let everybody know, yes, that we are brought to you by Collage Travel Media Network.

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Speaker 2 1:36

Right Now, today, we're going to be doing something a little bit different. What's that? It's a way that I probably wouldn't be traveling. How's that? Well, we're going to be speaking with Corey Mortensen today, and he is a best-selling author and he's known for his trilogy books books Buddha and the Bee, which consists of Buddha and the Bee, Unlost and Embracing Bewilderment, and he's kind of like a rogue traveler.

Speaker 3 2:03

I know I'm pretty excited to talk to him.

Speaker 2 2:05

You know he traveled by bicycle and everything else, yeah. And you know he talked about his other books, where he kind of you know, went around and did this and that and the other thing, and there's more books coming. So we're going to be talking to him in a little bit, so I can't wait. But I probably wouldn't travel that way Bicycle. I do my little bicycle around town, but I wouldn't do it cross country.

Speaker 3 2:28

I do my bicycling on a flat surface.

Speaker 2 2:31

On a flat surface. On a flat surface.

Speaker 3 2:33

It's an old railroad bed that's converted to a bike path, running path and it's like 29 miles long. You go flat one way, flat the other way, that's nice.

Speaker 2 2:43

Yeah, but it makes it nice.

Speaker 3 2:44

That's the way I bicycle, but I'm not taking my tent with me because it's in the swamp. It's in the green swamp of Florida.

Speaker 2 2:51

And you know me, I don't do any tenting Right. Yeah, that's not my, that's not the way I would travel, right.

Speaker 3 2:56

So I see Corey coming.

Speaker 2 3:00

Welcome, corey.

Speaker 4 3:02

Most excellent, thank you, and thank you for having me on your show. I've been looking forward to talking with you.

Speaker 2 3:06

You know I have so many questions. You know you have written these books. You have a trilogy starting with Buddha and the Bee and going to Unlost and Embracing Bewilderment. So how did you get into doing this? You travel by bicycle.

Speaker 4 3:27

Well, the first book was about a trip that I did by bicycle, and the books actually came up. I hate to age myself here, but about 20 years after the fact when I when I started the bike, the first book was an unplanned bike trip, basically a poorly planned bike trip, I should say. It was from from Minneapolis to California, and when I got there I was completely had a different viewpoint on life, and so I decided not to go back to home. And and then the second book is about basically hitchhiking from California, working my way all the way down to Antarctica.

Speaker 2 3:57

And why did you call it Unlost?

Speaker 4 4:02

I wanted to call it something else, but it was kind of like some people are lost and I feel like I was unlost. You know, like you know, I figure there's sort of a polishing your shine type of thing. You know, become that person you were before the world, you know, tarnished your spirit.

Speaker 3 4:17

How do you hitchhike to Antarctica? That's what I want to know.

Speaker 4 4:20

Well, you work your way down the boat from Ushuaia to Antarctica. It was a marathon organization and so I had decided that I was going to go run the marathon, and things were a little bit more loosey goosey than they are now today. I was able just to contact the race director and just said hey, you know, will you give me a smoking deal if I meet you in Ushuaia? Because the organization started in the States and then then they flew to Buenos Aires and it was a big tour package.

Speaker 2 4:47

Right.

Speaker 4 4:48

And I was already tramping around South America so I said I'll just meet you down there.

Speaker 2 4:52

So that trip was a little bit more planned out than Buddha and the Bees trip.

Speaker 4 4:56

In a way. Well, I didn't really know where I was going to go every day, but I knew I was going south.

Speaker 2 5:02

And then your last book, or should I say your third book, because I'm sure you're going to have more coming out Embracing Bewilderment. Talk to me about that.

Speaker 4 5:12

So on that trip in South America I met a young lady who I became quite smitten with, and she was on her way to Carnival and then London, and I was on my way to Antarctica and I said, well, since I've got nothing going on after that, I'll just meet you in London and then, of course, we'll get married and start a sheep farm somewhere in Perth. My imagination didn't work out that way.

Speaker 2 5:38

I gather you're not in Perth right now.

Speaker 4 5:40

No, I'm not in Perth right now. No, we're in Phoenix with my wonderful wife.

Speaker 2 5:44

No, I'm not in Perth right now. No, we're in Phoenix with my wonderful wife. That's good, that's good. So how did you come across doing this? What was your mindset when you wanted to make all these travel plans and do all of this exciting adventures?

Life-Changing Bike Journey Across America

Speaker 4 5:57

You know, I think we've all had that in our mind. We've all wanted to travel. I mean, I would venture to guess if you put a hundred people in a room, I'd say 99% of them say travel is something that I want to do more of. And as a kid I was. When I was a kid, when I was in my twenties, I was working and I have that first born syndrome of being responsible, so I felt like I had to have a job and support myself and all the things you're supposed to do anyway. But I always wanted to travel and so every once in a while I'd take a two-week trip and, you know, backpack around Central America or whatever. And in my mind I said when I turned 30, because, for whatever reason, 30 was like the break point, like life ends after 30, right.

Speaker 2 6:40

That's what we always thought when we were in our 20s.

Speaker 4 6:42

Yes, Right, yeah, I remember what I yeah. So I was like 30, that's it, I've got to do it. So 31 approached and I hadn't done it yet. So I thought my life was over and my opportunity was done, and it wasn't. So I ended up through some things that happened through life. I ended up taking a two-month leave of absence and just said I'm going to ride my bike to California, lose some weight. You know, whatever, prove that I can do it. Where did you start from? Minneapolis, okay.

Speaker 2 7:11

Yeah, you started from Minneapolis. Now, how many hours or how many miles did you travel on your bike per day? Do you remember?

Speaker 4 7:23

It varied, but the first day I remember very vividly was 98 miles. I had not ridden more than 10 miles prior to that. And why would I train? Right, because I'm a guy, I don't get instructions, I don't train, you know. So I didn't even do any research on what I should bring. I just threw all this stuff in a backpack, through the backpack, on my shoulder, and then biked 98 miles to a place called Redwood Falls, minnesota, to which my shoulders were shattered. I sent everything home at the end of the day. I you know I had brought books and of course I was running at the end of the day.

Speaker 4 7:53

You know all these things, all these grand plans and uh. Instead I had, like hyperglycemic, passed out in a grassy field and um, sent everything home and the only thing I had was my tent, sleeping bag, sleeping mat and an extra pair of clothes.

Speaker 2 8:09

So you actually lived basically on the land and on the road. As you were going you didn't stop at hotels or anything like that.

Speaker 4 8:17

I stopped at motels. Yeah, In the book you'll find I describe all the seediness that the United States motel system has to offer, especially in homes that nobody ever knows that exist anymore.

Speaker 2 8:30

Right, but they're out there. They're out there.

Speaker 4 8:32

They're out there, they're serving you guys on your bikes and they're making a good deal on 50 bucks a night sometimes.

Speaker 2 8:37

Yeah, and I went onto your website and I was looking at some of the pictures that you had posted, you know, with your bicycle there and pieces of your bicycle there, a lot of flat tires.

Speaker 4 8:55

Now, you know that was I. You know, can I ask when this happened? Yeah, absolutely it was. I left August, end of August of 2001. Okay, and that's a great question to ask because, um, when I was biking over the rocky mountains, the day I decided to bike over the rocky mountains, it was uh, 9, 11 happened oh my and you know, if we can all remember back to 2001 maybe some of your audience wasn't even born yet but, um, I didn't have a cell phone.

Speaker 4 9:19

You know I didn't. We didn't carry computers with us. You know no everything, you know it was. We were still kind of on that verge of technology. So like I remember having to call my dad once just to let him know I was okay when I was crossing the desert and you know I had to go get like $18 for the quarters to put into the phone machine Into a phone booth, which you can't even find one of these days.

Speaker 3 9:42

So you didn't know what was happening on 9-11? I'm sorry, you didn't know what was happening.

Speaker 4 9:49

Yeah, so when I woke up, I was camping in Estes Park in.

Speaker 2 9:53

Colorado.

Speaker 4 9:54

And this guy was in his car and he just kind of said, hey, we're under attack. And I was like, what you know? What are you talking about? I thought he was still drunk from the night before. So then I biked over to a diner and she said that the credit cards weren't working because of what was happening. But she didn't really give me any information. And then, as I started biking up, I had a couple of bicyclists I passed and they said hey, did you know, wonder, wonder, attack? I'm like I have no idea what anybody's talking about.

Speaker 4 10:20

Finally, at the end of the day I got down to a place called Hot Sulphur Springs and there was a kiosk and the sign said the kiosk read free beer, tara suck. So I'm like, all right, I got to figure out what's going on here. A whole bunch of people that were kind of stranded because, again, I didn't know that they shut down the airports. So, yeah, they had a keg because they were at a wedding and they couldn't leave. So there was a wedding party and we all just sat around the fire and they told me what happened. The next day I rented a motel and I saw the video.

Speaker 2 10:50

Wow.

Speaker 3 10:52

So people were probably trying to get on your bicycle to get out of there.

Speaker 4 10:57

You know there was a clear difference, though you know the first part of the bike. I remember being on the side of the road fixing a flat tire, several flat tires, and nobody would even give you a honk Afterwards. If I stopped to take a picture, people would stop. Are you OK? It was the camaraderie changed. I could feel it.

Speaker 2 11:19

Oh that's right. We all came together right after that. That was absolutely correct. Now, where did you get the title from?

Speaker 4 11:28

I wish it was more interesting than what I'm about to share with you, but this is the honest truth. So my brother was over and he worked for a landscaping company and he had asked if Kate and I wanted a Buddha statue by our pool. Which I was like, let me think about it, cause I wasn't sure how I wanted to design the pool and we had just moved into our house and I decided to go for a hike and it was springtime in Phoenix and as I was hiking, there was lots of bees because the flowers were blooming on the cacti and, uh, and I was thinking about the bees and I was thinking Buddha, and somehow it was like I got peanut butter and chocolate and I ran down the.

Speaker 4 12:07

I ran home and typed in the Buddha and the bee and I'm sorry, I'm just going to pull out my book here because I want to read you the quote that popped up when I, when I Googled it and I, when I, when I, when I Googled the Buddha and the bee, this quote popped up and I said this is exactly this is what the book is about as a why. I'm sorry, excuse me, let me start over. As a bee gathering nectar does not harm or disturb the color and fragrance of the flower, so do the wise move to the world and I'm not saying I'm wise, but I am, you know. But as we move through the world, we don't want to damage where we've been. You know, it's kind of like leave no trace, and that's how I interpreted that and that's kind of how I felt I was. I was this kind of this entity floating across the United States trying to figure things out, but I wasn't.

Speaker 2 12:56

I was listening and watching, but I wasn't harming anything you know, and I think that's kind of how we all Right harming anything you know. So you have all these experiences Right all these experiences went into the book. That's fabulous.

Wanderlust Adventures and Writing Journey

Speaker 3 13:05

Can I ask? You're in September. You're in the Rockies, how?

Speaker 4 13:13

much longer did it take you to get to the West Coast? Yeah, I think I arrived around mid-October or maybe early October. Yeah, it was early October because I ended up staying in California for a while and I remember I just missed the day of the dead in Mexico by one day. So yeah, so I got to Truckee around the first week of October.

Speaker 3 13:35

I can't believe you didn't have problems in the mountains with snow.

Speaker 2 13:38

Right going through because you said you were in. Estes Park and that's pretty mountainous over that way.

Speaker 4 13:43

It was cold. You know one thing I will tell you by some miracle, the only weather I experienced was about 15 minutes of rain in Steamboat Springs. That was it. Oh wow, the entire time I rode I didn't have any weather. I had wind, lots of wind. Right Off of the Rockies it was obviously really cold. I mean freezing cold. I mean it had to be in the maybe high 30s. It wasn't snowing. There was snow on the ground. It was kind of the perma snow that's out there.

Speaker 2 14:12

Right. Did you stay in the tent then, or did you find a hotel?

Speaker 4 14:17

Yeah, okay, and that's that's just part of it. Testis Park yeah, I stayed in that Burr.

Speaker 2 14:23

Which led you to your next adventure, Unlost.

Speaker 4 14:26

Yeah, yeah. So when I got, to California, I decided I wasn't going to go home and I left my bike there and my cousin dropped me off at this wonderful coffee shop called the Pente in Big Sur. If you haven't been there, I highly recommend it. I don't think you can get there right now because of the landslides, but when they open up Highway 1, get there. So you probably went there. I've been to Pixar. Yes, nepenthe, it means the drink of forgetfulness in Greek which.

Speaker 4 14:55

I thought was perfect for starting my new trip and change of lifestyle. So yeah, so I went out to the highway, highway 1, some hippies picked me up and drove me down to Long Beach and then from there I took a bus to Tijuana and then from there to Rocky Point.

Speaker 2 15:12

So you hung up the bicycle and were utilizing other types of transportation at this point.

Speaker 4 15:19

That's correct.

Speaker 2 15:19

Yes, Okay, and then you moved on to embracing the bewilderment right.

Speaker 4 15:27

Yes, yep. How many years?

Speaker 2 15:28

in between your journeys, did you have?

Speaker 4 15:31

This was all consecutive.

Speaker 2 15:33

Really so you went one end to the other.

Speaker 4 15:35

Yeah, it was a total of two years out there wandering.

Speaker 2 15:40

Basically you were living off the land and thing you know, just going with the flow.

Speaker 4 15:44

It sounds like totally go to fly and be somebody and they're like hey, there's something cool over there, let's go do it let's go do it. I mean, that takes a lot of guts, it really does but there's also a wonderful sense of freedom in that too, not you know, knowing you don't have an agenda and you don't have to be somewhere and being able to meet somebody new. And then, you know, go to this beach that you'd never heard of, or something for the day or a week, or whatever.

Speaker 2 16:10

Now. Do you also have plans on doing some more traveling coming up in the future?

Speaker 4 16:17

Yeah. So after this um, at the end of the embracing bewilderment, what happened was I accidentally started a business.

Speaker 2 16:24

You accidentally started a business.

Speaker 4 16:27

That's what I like to say. So that's the current book I'm working on now. And, and when I started the business, I came home and I worked very, very hard and sold it. 10 years later, and just before I sold it I met my wife. And just before I sold it I met my wife and so she was a partner in a law firm and, um, she was kind of burnt out and, and when I sold the business, they moved us from Minneapolis to Texas and uh, so we were there and I had a two-year contract and I knew I didn't want to stay any longer than two years what was the business I used?

Speaker 2 17:00

to have a heart rate monitor business. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. What was the business?

Speaker 4 17:05

it have a heart rate monitor business.

Speaker 2 17:07

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. What was the business? It was a heart rate monitor business.

Speaker 4 17:09

Oh, okay, yeah. So then I grew into pedometers and stopwatches and pulse oximeters everything that's free on your iPhone now, right? So I saw the writing on the wall when we sold, and so then we had the two-year contracts. I looked to kate and I said, you know, I'm I'm kind of done with this whole rat race for a while, and so we sold everything and then traveled around south america for just shy of two years.

Speaker 2 17:33

Oh, is that going to be another book?

Speaker 4 17:35

yes, and that's going to be a he said, she said, sort of thing, because when we look back at some of our exciting adventures we have totally different memories of how it occurred. You know I always come in as the hero and you know she doesn't remember it that way. So it would be fun to have two points of view on that. I think the readers would enjoy that That'll be really cool.

Speaker 2 17:55

That'll be really cool. And when do you plan on when do you think that book is going to come out?

Speaker 4 18:03

Well, I've got two more in front of that. So the next one is the book about my business and the other one. Last summer I took um a month off and I biked from canada to mexico on the pacific coast highway you brought the bicycle back you bought them back on the bike. I love the bike. Matter of fact, this afternoon I'll go biking.

Speaker 2 18:19

Yeah do you have any plans on doing any of these uh journeys overseas in europe?

Speaker 4 18:25

you know, we're going there for a um, there's a. There's a guy by the name of alistair humphries. He's a contemporary writer who writes travel memoirs, and he came up with this phrase called the the um micro adventure. And so kate and I are doing a micro adventure where we're doing a house swap next week. Actually, we're leaving for Amsterdam for two and a half weeks.

Speaker 2 18:48

Oh fun.

Speaker 4 18:49

So that's like it's not adventurous. We're going to be tourists and go look at the tulips.

Speaker 2 18:54

That's what you need to do. You need to be a tourist every now and then.

Speaker 4 18:58

Yeah, absolutely Embrace the culture.

Speaker 3 19:00

I have a question about your writing. Yeah, absolutely Embrace the culture. I have a question about your writing. How much time do you spend writing? Writing or writing Write? W-r-i-t-i-n-g.

Speaker 4 19:11

Thank you. You know it all depends. I'm one of those. Maybe there's a lot of people like this. It's really hard for me to get started, but once I get started I'll go through the night. So, um, I should be writing like this afternoon, for example, and it's on my calendar, but I probably won't. But I just find, you know, every once in a while I just pick it up. So it really it really comes down like I've been kind of lacking motivation. So I read a book that was similar to what I want to write and it motivated me. So now I'm back in the process, so probably a couple hours a day.

Speaker 2 19:46

You know we're going to have to bring you back after you come back from Amsterdam and talk more about all the different books that you have coming in Now, something that we do on our show all the time is a travel tip. What travel tip would you tell our listeners?

Speaker 4 19:59

Travel tip. You know, I don't know if this is a travel tip, but I will say the most important thing while traveling, no matter where you are, is have your wits about you. Common sense, which you if you could have everything stolen your wallet, passport, all taken. But as long as you have your wits, if you have the ability to see through the problems and situations and understand, not to put yourself in compromising situations, that's all you need.

Speaker 2 20:26

That's your travel tip. Well, corey, it has been a pleasure speaking with you today. There's so much, and if somebody wants to get your books, you want to let them know how.

Speaker 4 20:35

Yeah, absolutely Thank you for that opportunity. You today there's so much, and if somebody wants to get your books you want to let them know how. Yeah, absolutely Thank you for that opportunity.

Speaker 2 20:41

The website is called thebuddhaandthebeecom, so wwwthebuddhaandthebeecom a big one, and all three of your books are on that website correct.

Speaker 4 20:52

Yeah, you can go to the website. You can look at it. There's some pictures there If you want to contact me. I always love chatting with people, so you can contact me through the website as well. So yes, fabulous.

Speaker 2 20:59

Thanks again, Corey, for joining us today. We look forward to more of your journeys and more of your books. You have a great day.

Speaker 4 21:05

Thank you. Thank you for your time. Appreciate you.

Speaker 2 21:08

I don't know, jay, I don't think I could do what he did I don't either. You know, know, he said he pointed it out that it was a few years back that he did this and then he created the book, and then he did another journey and created another book, and and now he said he has a few more books that are coming out. But the way he travels, you know, it sounds exciting and but it's just not my cup of tea well, yeah, um riding that bicycle.

Speaker 3 21:31

I cannot believe he only had one bad day of rain, well, rain.

Speaker 1 21:35

Rain.

Speaker 3 21:35

Rain or snow Going over the mountains in September, October. I know I cannot believe that.

Speaker 2 21:41

He did have to change quite a few flat tires, right, right. And then he was talking about being. He wasn't bicycling down in South America, but he was kind of backpacking you know the way it sounded, you know and he was all the way down to the Antarctic, wow, yeah, but I can't wait to see some of his other books that he's going to be coming out with. Oh well, so you ready for your trivia question, Jay.

Speaker 3 22:03

Oh no, not trivia. Me and trivia don't go well together.

Speaker 2 22:07

Okay, this one is what is the longest commercial airline flight.

Speaker 3 22:15

New York to Australia.

Speaker 2 22:19

Is that your answer? I want a time. Give me a time. How many hours?

Speaker 3 22:27

The 17 is in my head 17 hours.

Speaker 2 22:30

You would be very close. Yeah, it is actually Singapore. New York to Singapore, it is 18.5 hours. It's the longest airline flight 9,585 miles 19 hours in the air, nonstop. Right, 18.5. The longest commercial airline flight it's Singapore Airlines, and Singapore Airlines has some really nice planes.5. The longest commercial airline flight it's Singapore Airlines, and Singapore Airlines has some really nice planes Right.

Speaker 3 23:01

I think I'd have to get up and go to the bathroom at least once.

Speaker 2 23:04

Yeah, and they have like bedrooms on their planes.

Speaker 3 23:08

It's crazy, but why is it Singapore to New York? Why not New York to Singapore?

Speaker 2 23:12

It's New York to Singapore.

Speaker 3 23:14

Oh, New York to Singapore. Okay, because if you come back from Singapore, you get the tailwind coming back.

Speaker 2 23:19

Right, so it's New York to Singapore and it's Singapore Airlines. Wow.

Speaker 3 23:24

Well, thank you for that trivia. The next time I'm ready to book a flight to, where are we going? Singapore, singapore.

Speaker 2 23:31

Right, like I said, I was looking at Singapore Airlines when I was researching this and it's like wow, they have. You know, their first class is first class. You swear you're in a hotel, it's gorgeous Well, 19 hours in the air.

Speaker 3 23:49

Yeah that's a lot of air time. Do they have two or three crews on board?

Speaker 2 23:53

I didn't look into that, but I'm sure they probably have a couple that replace each other.

Speaker 3 23:58

Because they have cruise quarters where the crews are supposed to sleep? Yeah, I wonder if you're a crew member. I remember traveling on the train and commuting. Oh, commuting when the train's moving, I can sleep.

Speaker 2 24:13

Well, I've done that before too.

Speaker 3 24:14

Right, but when the train stopped I can sleep. Well, I've done that before too. Right, but when the train stopped, you know, I woke up Right when am I?

Speaker 2 24:18

Okay, so the plane's up in the air. I hope they are sleeping.

Speaker 3 24:22

And I hope the plane doesn't stop.

Speaker 2 24:24

Well, you know, they have all that autopilot stuff. Technology, technology, technology.

Speaker 3 24:28

Yeah, wow.

Travel Tips and Podcast Promotion

Speaker 2 24:36

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Traveling truly opens up the world to you. You learn all about the different cultures, the lifestyles and, of course, what we love the most food. Then you realize we really, truly are the same. So dream, dream big, reach for those stars, and if you only get to the moon, at least you made the trip. If you're looking to get to great places to travel to, you can visit my website. It's absolutely free to go visit my site. That's ZMichelsonTravelcom. Z is spelt Z-E-E. This is Zee Michelson, making your travel dreams come true.