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Health, fitness, and life coaches are the future of mental & physical healthcare, but so many are plagued with Imposter Syndrome. What if it didn’t have to be that way?
The Get Enlifted podcast is where coaches come to improve their mindset, sharpen their coaching skills, and crush Imposter Syndrome so that they can make a bigger impact on their clients and make more money doing it.
With a combined experience of almost three decades in coaching, you’ll get invaluable wisdom and tangible tools from hosts Mark England & Kimberly Kesting in weekly entertaining (and edgy) conversations on mindset, holistic wellness, and decentralized education.
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Ep. 74: Trail Blazing a New Story with Bryn Daylor
Bryn is a master storyteller, and she's here to talk us through her journey filled with self-discovery, transformation, and embracing change. She openly shares her experiences of shedding her identity and challenging her upper limits.
She is here to help you forge a path that you've never ventured before. 🔥 Bryn is the Director of Growth @soulfireproductionsco
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Get control of your words, get control of your story, get control of your breath, get over your fear of not being good enough, get your dream clients, get them results and get in lifted. So, listeners, right before I press this button to share with you our new guests. We are talking about something really interesting, which is about when you hit a point in a story where you've told a story so many times that you no longer want to tell it because it doesn't feel like you. And so we're here with a woman who's telling a new story, and damn good at it. Bryn Taylor, welcome back.
Speaker 2:Thanks for having me so happy to be back.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, yes, absolutely. She just launched a podcast called Trailblazer and when I saw the news break on Instagram because I follow Bryn and I'm always you know her her hype girl in the in the social media lands and when I saw it I was like wow, what a perfect name for a woman. That is like it's so fitting. It's so fitting. And tell us how you picked that name.
Speaker 2:So I did not pick the name.
Speaker 2:I wish I could take credit for it because I this is probably a great parallel for the ways in which I've played small in my life and it also could have just been a creative flop. I basically came to the team and I now work for a company called Soulfire Productions and we can talk about the journey of how I got there. But basically, when I started working with the team, one of the things I said to them was you know, we are at the intersection of soul and fire, where we are bold and we don't sugarcoat and we tell you how it is and we also see your soul and we are not afraid to help you expand into the most beautiful and true version of yourself and podcasting is a medium for that. But we really see you at the deepest level. And when I started to work with the team, I didn't want the brinjal. I was like been there, done that, told my story a million times. That didn't feel energy rich anymore. What felt energy rich was being a part of something, alongside of someone, and you know it's no surprise to me that I met my partner in romance not that long ago, when I started to declare that to the world. And then I found this incredible team where we were aligned in our mission and vision and I wanted to tell the stories of myself and others that were paving paths that were so different from what we were told.
Speaker 2:Growing up, I've always been a fan of the tad bizarre and fringy and controversial and contrarian, and so, as I was telling them this vision I had for the show because I said I want this to be our show, I don't want this to be the Brinn show, I want this to be the Soulfire show and I'm just an extension of that and I think I was like let's call it Soulfire radio. And Kelly, your CEO, was like lame, I hate that. And she I forget if it was just like in the spur of the moment or she had come to the call with this idea. She's like the show is going to be called Trailblazer and everyone on the call was like uh, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so good, so good, so good.
Speaker 2:And the second she said it, though it's insane, kim Like the universe has been shouting at me from the rooftops Like this is it? You found your path. I was just in San Francisco and this is just the beauty of like being awake to magic because we check into the hotel and we're staying at this hotel. In the middle of downtown, and across from our hotel was Salesforce's conference and the theme of the conference was trailblazer, and so on, a motherfucking skyscraper across from my window, in the biggest letters possible, was welcome, trailblazer. I was like wow, huh, I think I'm in the right place.
Speaker 1:Those winks man.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, I love the story that you told on.
Speaker 1:I don't remember One of your solo episodes that I listened to is the second that I got the chance because I was like, oh my God, of course I want to dig in on this. And you told the story of as you were considering accepting the job and you got the juice Were you at local juicer in Sedona.
Speaker 2:I absolutely was.
Speaker 1:I'm headed to Sedona in two weeks, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:Okay, you have to get the soul fire. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:I'm like you're like, oh, I got a juice, and it's like you didn't even notice that it was called soul fire. I was like so it's yeah, waking up to the magic in those ways is really fun, because it's the universe starts winking at you and my, my recent phrase when I get those winks is thank you more please, and I stole that from somebody's TikTok or something. I didn't make it up myself, but I just really liked it, I was like wow, yeah, thank you more please.
Speaker 1:And so, yeah, listeners, use it if you want.
Speaker 2:That's the theme right now, baby is there's so much more, there's so much more. There's so much more beyond our tiny little minds can comprehend. And if we allow ourselves to open to that magic and to let go of what we think we're supposed to be and what society has told us and you know the constructs we've given to ourselves, it's like holy shit. There's this other door that I didn't even see because it was covered behind my bullshit and my fear and my, my playing smallness. And I've just really been so available for that lately and I'm Israeli sweet.
Speaker 2:When I was just in Denver visiting with Kelly we were co-working and it was my birthday a couple of weeks ago and she's like I didn't know what to get you for your birthday and she's like nothing could come to mind. And then she goes and then I thought of this and she hands me this beautifully wrapped package and I open it and inside of it is a framed picture of the green juice that says soul fire. Oh my God, cute. It's this tangible reminder of the magic, like when I let go and trust and also pay attention, because it would have been really fucking easy for me to not see that green juice that day and to miss that sign and to just chug the bottle and tossed it. And so it takes a, I think, an incredible amount of slowness and presence and breath to really stay awake to what is right in front of you and what life wants to hand you, because it's pretty fucking spectacular.
Speaker 1:Yes, so I so agree, and what I you know, bring me back to the idea of like the stories that we're sick of and the stories we no longer want to tell. There's to me that's that's the part of like getting over our own bullshit, getting out of our own way, Like we get so fixed in an identity and our identities are not fixed, Like they're not certain and solid, and like only this forever, and something that, like I've admired of you throughout our friendship and time we've known each other, which now I mean I think we met in 2018 or 2019. So it's been, you know, like we both have shedded and changed identities many times over.
Speaker 2:Oh my, I love that yeah.
Speaker 1:And it's like the things that I think that I experienced and that I see and I'm sure that you see this with the various people that you've worked with and coached and you have I mean, you have an extensive background in coaching, from health and wellness coaching into intimacy coaching and now working with storytellers and doing podcasting and just like and, I'm sure, many other ways that you've worked with people in the coaching space and the identity component of like being so fixed in your identity is the part that almost always stops the magic right To be. What I'm seeing is like a clogged pipe, like it's like there's a cork in here, because it's like I'm so stuck being who I am that it's difficult for me to see who I want to be or who I'm becoming or who I want to. The identity I want to step into and that idea of being a trailblazer or the idea of like being the person who's going to you're the first one to go. Like, you have to be the first one to go and whether that's in leadership or in your own life, like, the only way to get unstuck is for you to do it and for you to shift that story and so much of where something that I've seen and experienced myself and I'd be curious to get your take on.
Speaker 1:It is like it's not so much that other people resist you changing your story, or that other people are like, oh, what do you mean? You used to be this, or I knew you as this way and this was the, the labels that I put on you, and most other people see you change an identity and they're like oh, wow, that's awesome, that's so you, that's so authentic. And what I found in my life is like I'm the one resisting me. It's not like I'm the one who's being like oh, can I really be that type of woman? Can I really be this way in business? Can I really be that vulnerable? On the podcast.
Speaker 2:Can I?
Speaker 1:really, you know, accept the gifts that are being shown to me or reflected to me and cause other people see the identity and they're like hell, yeah, you go, girl Yep, and if anything, they might build you up on a pedestal beyond what you, you know, like totally, but it's funny, my experience has actually been both.
Speaker 2:I've absolutely seen where I play small and I grapple with the identity. Usually, though, for me, it's not about letting go of an identity, it's about stepping into even more greatness. There's this beautiful Marianne Williamson quote about how we're not actually afraid of failure. We're afraid of our capacity to be extraordinary and I'm butchering it, but it's a really beautiful quote. It's one of my all time favorites because I think it's really true.
Speaker 2:I think, when we really look at why we stay stuck in these loops, the big leaf talks about this, this book by Gay Hendricks of how we have these very distinct common upper limits that we reach as humans, and he categorizes them, and when I looked back at my life, I could really see where you know it's like right after this amazing thing happened for me. Usually, my upper limit shows up as like I get sick. My body's like nope, we can't expand that much. We're going to keep you sick to distract you from this amazing thing that's right in front of you, so that you can focus on something completely different, and so I definitely had my fair share of that, and I think for me, what's really helped that part of me is to intentionally put myself in the room with incredible women, women that scare the shit out of me, women that are playing at a much bigger game than I am, that are a lot wealthier, a lot smarter, a lot further along, where I get imposter syndrome and I'm like what the fuck am I doing here and why am I in this room? And I'm like, oh yeah, because they can see things that I can't. They're playing life at a bigger game, at a bigger way, and I've always, since I really moved to Austin, started to take note of that. Like, let's surround myself with people that are doing life bigger, and it doesn't really have to be like more money or more success in business, it's just whatever thing I want to step into. Let me find someone that's doing that and either pay them or be in the room with them or ask them to for coffee, whatever it may be, because it works.
Speaker 2:And the old saying of like you are the product of the five people you spend the most time with, I'm like, okay, well, let me make sure those people are really spectacular. And you were talking about how most people don't see you in a negative way when you shift, and sadly, I've actually had a different experience. I've used my experience to actually affirm that I'm on the right path, because what happens for me and I've noticed this every time I make a big shift not necessarily like a smaller pivot, but like when I really shift an identity. So the first time this happened was when I sold my gym back in 2019. I was married and we shared a gym together and it was my partner's gym, but you know, I helped him build it and we sold the gym.
Speaker 2:And when I sold the gym now, given a lot of stuff was happening at that time, we sold the gym, we got divorced, we were leaving behind a community that we had built, and there was one person in particular who was very vocal about how much they were pissed off. Pissed off, thought I was making a mistake, so hurt by my actions. How could I not be thinking about the other people that I'm leaving behind? Projection, projection, projection, projection. And at the time, I would say my backbone wasn't quite as strong and it really fucking hurt. And I took it to heart. And then I realized my truth, and my truth was that this person was afraid of me making big changes because they weren't doing the same.
Speaker 2:And now, every time I make big pivots, there's always one. There's always one that, like, comes out of the woodworks and says has some things to say about my life. And at this point I've just gotten smart enough and wise enough to know it's not about me. My truth is, if I can tuck myself into bed at night and go, I did the best I fucking could. My heart and soul is in. Whatever the next thing I'm doing and I'm charging forward and I feel good about that, then you can keep your projections, thank you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm so happy that you shared it that way and said it that way, because what? As you were sharing it, I actually was like reflecting back on my own experience and I realized I was like you know, actually I have, I have been met with resistance too and my brain has like edited it out, because I had those same realizations. I was like this isn't even about me, those are projections, and it doesn't even. It just like bounces right off, like it doesn't. It just is almost like oh, okay, well, edit that out and remove that.
Speaker 1:Nope, not gonna like, because my identity, my story about myself, like, is solid and clear, and when I have and I'll be completely honest, part of that is my nature and a big part of it is because I really hone my language and really pay attention to how I speak to myself and about myself, and so it's not that I think in some ways, like it's how I've been before, I learned these tools, but then these tools just like solidified that. It was like I don't need the, I don't need the comments from the peanut gallery.
Speaker 2:Thank you 100% and I feel that so deeply and I also I, so I had a projection that happened to me lately and it's done. It's not like I'm not human. These things sting when I hear them. And again I was like, oh, I know what's happening. But I still took that piece of feedback to my mentor and I asked them for support and I said, hey, I want to run this by you.
Speaker 2:Somebody said this thing about me and I just want to check in, like what's here for me? And she gave me some really good advice. She said yes, you know your truth, also like welcome to being an entrepreneur, welcome to being a coach, where people will project on you forever. And she's like this is part of like earning your badge and stripes as a coach. And she also said look for the, the negative truth. Is there something in there that could be accurate? And so I did. I sat with that and I was like you know what? Maybe there is a tiny bit of truth in that, which is why it probably stung and I can own that part. And I think when we own all of our parts our shadows, our, our gifts, our magic and everything in between that's when you become unfuck withable. It's like you can't say anything that can hurt me, because I've already looked at this part of myself and said, yeah, you know what, I do have that part. You're right, thank you, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like I think that's you know when I think of even just like to continue to like, flush out this concept of being a trailblazer, like no one has been there before you or somebody has been there before, but it's like you're, you are you're, you're paving an entirely new path, and like with fire not with gentle ease Like it's like no, I'm coming in here with fire and I'm burning this whole thing down to get to where I want to go, and the transformation of that like, of course, it's going to be uncomfortable for some other people, and when you're in a very public space, doing it publicly, sharing your story publicly, the level of vulnerability that that requires.
Speaker 1:I know I mean you and I could talk about this probably forever Like I've been sharing my life online for the last seven or eight years and there's been many layers of that that I've shared and many different facets in which I've spoken outwardly and shared, shared my truth, shared my story, shared my experiences, and I'm sure there's plenty of feathers that I've ruffled along the way, and I'm sure there's plenty of people that have looked at it and said, like what the hell is she doing? You know this is crazy or how could that ever work and, at the same time, like I could listen to those voices, or I could listen to the voices that are cheering me on, that are resonating with what I'm sharing, that are finding that is inspiring them and leading them and teaching them in a way that is lighting their soul up and it's not. It's not to.
Speaker 1:I love the concept of look at the truth of what the haters are saying you know, and and see what you can, what wisdom you can pull from that, or self awareness you can pull from that, and, at the same time, it's like understanding that this is like this is part of what you've signed up for.
Speaker 1:You know to be a public figure and to be a leader and to be a trailblazer and to do something different, to share your story vulnerably. You know, I think anybody who has any sort of following online, that's like significant enough, right when it's like there's people watching that you don't know and they don't know you and they're making judgments on you based on a 15 second reel and of course they're going to have thoughts, of course they're going to say things and there's going to be trolls. And at what point do we allow that type of commentary or that type of feedback or that type of even when they staying like? At what point do we say like, hey, I can't, like I can't take all this on, I can't take all this energy on, I can't take this criticism on, and you know, some people may fold entirely because of that, or or don't start because of it, because of the fear of it, and so what ways have you? What other ways have you experienced that?
Speaker 2:Well, I would say it's funny. Something you said earlier is actually what I want to bring back into your the answer, which is about fire. The second I learned to own my fire, everything changed. So I grew up as a people pleaser. My mom said it to me the other day. She goes, you're a people pleaser and I said uh-uh. I said I used to be, I used to be a people pleaser. I'm not anymore.
Speaker 2:And there's this alchemy of understanding what fire actually feels like in my body and how to use it in a way that both you know inspires, like fire is beautiful, like you want to lean in. But then there's also this like Ooh, if I touch it, if I get too close, it might burn me. And when I learned to embrace my fire and not be afraid of my fire because fire to me is, it's a couple of things it's passion and it's anger and it burns things down, but it also changes the structure of something to create for something new. And when I really learned to embrace fire whether that was, I'm going to burn this down and I'm not going to leave anything behind, or I'm going to tell you I'm angry, not at you, at like at the situation, and actually learn to how to hold fire in my body. Also, let that fire be used as passion to build something. Everything shifted and so now I just see my fire as this magical portal into whatever wants to be next. Like the next, because fire, it, takes a certain amount of energy, its momentum, and to me, like the worst thing in the world is neutrality.
Speaker 2:When you're just kind of like, yeah, yes, apathetic towards something, it's like, no, be fucking passionate, love what you do, have an opinion, say something. And I used to think I wasn't opinionated and I realized it was because I was just like blanketing my, my opinions, my passion, and then I just there's a whole lot to how I started to own this part of me, but it was mostly because life kept poking at it. It kept saying like get bigger, be bolder, speak up. Eventually you just get sick of your own shit, like I'm tired of being walked over, I'm tired of having that amazing idea in a meeting, and then somebody else says it and be like fuck, I should have said that. Or somebody saying something to me that felt completely wrong, and then buckling and being like, oh, I can't do my soul was like enough enough, enough enough. And then I got sick of my shit and now I embrace my fire, and so I think it all just comes back to embracing your fire.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love that. I I never relate to a lot about where I am in my life right now, and I was just up in New York as I was sharing with you a little bit before we started recording, and what I realized about myself like one of the. It was almost like I had this experience where and maybe other people like recognize it in me, but I didn't notice it in myself. I lived in New York city for nine years and then I moved to Virginia and I became this like wannabe milkmaid, like a little farm girl over here, and so my fire is in a massive big city where all of my passion and my creativity and my vitality and livelihood like come online. And so I had this like instant experience being and talking about the expanders, talking about the expansive view of possibilities, and and you know what I, what I took away from my time there was like I was like, wow, I really let my fire go out. Like I, I let my fire, you know, go down to the coals. Like I haven't been stoking my fire, I've been just like barely allowing it to like kind of like that it not quite to the place of complacency and like not, you know, saying it like not that you know, but it was like I really need to like, like this thing back up because I'm I'm a fire sign, I'm an Aries. I like I have a lot of fire in me and I've been just over here, like kicking my feet up and you know, and and it's and that has its season two for sure. Like I'm so grateful for what, you know, the last two years of my life have brought me and the realization of like no, we got to turn that fire back up because it's the passion, it's the vitality, it's the, the go-getter-ness, it's the like it is the trailblazer energy.
Speaker 1:It's like, hey, let's go, come on. Like you, you have a mission and and you got to go do it, and so much of that experience. Like it, you know, and I think about it from an aspect too of like physical right Cause it's physical fire, it can be physical too. It's like the, the feeling of a great workout, it's like super passionate sex. It's the like I want to go like punch you because I'm so angry, I'm feeling like. It's like it's that physical expression, it's it's it's like channeling that component, like we can all feel that in some area of our life is what I mean to to say by the physical, like our fire. Like you know, when you're like, even if you're the least fiery person, like you have a fire, something that you're fiery about, like that you can like absolutely.
Speaker 1:Stoke that fire more and when I took like my one of my biggest takeaways coming back to Virginia after being in New York was like I was like, okay, wow, what can I really do to tend to my fire and how can I keep this thing lit and go from from being like warm coals to like, okay, I'm stoking my fire, to then I'm going to have this thing blazing again shortly, regardless of them in New York or here. Like you know, yes, the environment matters, but like I can create, I can recreate that here and how, and I didn't notice it about myself until I put myself back into the environment where my fire is almost too strong. So right.
Speaker 2:Well, I think it's really beautiful that you, you know you allowed yourself to swing to the other end of the spectrum. You're like, okay, I'm in my milkmaid era, I want to have my feet in the grass and I'm going to take herbs from my garden, and it was like you're so needed that, yeah. And now you're coming back to that beautiful, sweet middle spot of like homeostasis of fire and earth and how those two things work together, and I think you're exactly where you're supposed to be. So I think that's really beautiful and amazing self-awareness to go like oh, this is the part of me that I'm missing.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Now it's time to step into that identity.
Speaker 1:Right, and it's like so much of like to bring it back to the idea of like, shifting, changing identities, and like stripping pieces away or stories that we don't want to tell anymore, or the stories that we do want to tell but we're scared to tell right, like it's. It's the boldness that's necessary to say you know what, actually that chapter is closed, or to dare to say I'm opening up a blank book and this is this is a whole new thing, and I think I'd be curious to get your take on this, because I, because of how many big identity shifts and changes in your story you've made in your life, like, have you? Is there an equilibrium that you found there? Like, where it's? Like you know what actually, like, I can keep this chapter open and I can, and there's still blank pages behind it and I can write from, like I can, I can craft this story from the pieces of this and then and also integrate all whole newness to it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've been thinking about that a lot lately. I think I've had so many big identity shifts in the last chapter because I was drastically out of alignment. I don't necessarily think I'm going to have these massive. I'm open to being proven wrong. It's funny whenever I say that my part of it goes no, you're not. I was like Virgo energy, you are.
Speaker 1:Exactly my favorite statement. You are right.
Speaker 2:But I think that that I think that I had so many big bandaid rips in the last four years because I was majorly out of alignment. I got pretty lost along the way and dimmed my light, blah, blah, blah we all know that story. But I'd like to think that the more I've gotten closer to who I actually came to be on this earth not to say that I won't have iterations of that I'd like to think that there's going to be less of the really big ones. I think that in my birthday came around, and normally people pick new words in January. But I really saw and was studying that come January is not when our body naturally wants to create. We're still very much in hibernation in the middle of winter, and so I started making my new year to my birthday, and so I was like what's the word that I really want to call in for myself this year? And my word last year was innovate. And oh, did that show the fuck up? Because I basically changed and innovated my entire life. But the word that came up this year was steady, steadiness, and I even feel the exhale as I say it, because I'm not looking to rip the bandaid this year, I'm not looking to shift the identity.
Speaker 2:This year I feel like I really found a beautiful lane that I want to stay in and I want to build from, and that's a really beautiful, safe and empowering place to be. And so is that the bandaid, ripping identity blank page stage. I've just been in that place for four years and I'm ready for a new chapter where I'm not looking and searching and digging and discovering and transforming. Now it's like let me awaken to what is here, let me enjoy the fruits of my labor, let me be steady in the animal that came up with the bee of. Like I'm just going to go from flower to flower and pollinate and like, next thing, I know, in a year from now I'll have like this beautiful honeycomb to look at. But I'm not trying to like reap what I sow now, like I'm just trying to plant in and breathe and take up space. And that's actually been a hard unlearned because I've been in that.
Speaker 1:That's what I was just going to ask. Yeah, how difficult it is to be steady.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, Because my identity was like the bandaid ripper.
Speaker 1:I was like known for that, and it becomes easy to do that thing, like it's like, even the first time it's it's hard, the next time it's not as hard, the next time it's like oh, this was easy, I know how to do this.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And then if you get affirmed for it and you're like, oh, like, this is who I am, that's like pieces of the identity for me Totally.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the idea of steady is to. You said it. What came to mind to me was like I immediately like flashback to my days of teaching class at row house. Which, like steady when how many of the people in the room interpreted it was, it was a break. Like steady was a break. It's like no, actually studies not.
Speaker 1:Steady is a sustained, consistent effort. It is, it is a push. It is a push. It is like I'm here, I'm showing up, I've got things to chip away at, I'm working. Steady is not kick your feet up and relax. Steady is like no, I'm going to consistently show up every single day. I'm going to put in my work, I'm going to like make sure that each time, I'm creating this sense of stability and I love the B is that example too Like the worker B, that's just like keep going, keep doing the thing.
Speaker 1:Like builds, builds, builds. And I love how you said to I'm not trying to reap what I sell right now. That's the same thing that it is to cultivate and to create that. And maybe it's also like the age that we're at, like it's like you know, kind of like that, that experience of building towards a more steady, sustainable style of life and a more rooted style of life. Or maybe not. Maybe that has nothing to do with age and that's the story, but I relate a lot in the sense that, like that steadiness is probably the most on, and again I go bring it back to the row house thing. It's like that was the most uncomfortable part of class for many people because they're like oh, you want me to hold the same effort for three, four, five minutes. I, the intervals I can do like I can go up and I can come down, and I can go up and I can come down, but if you need me to like, hold it right here, like I, this is hard, this is hard to consistency.
Speaker 2:That is a beautiful metaphor. I love that I'm going to. I'm like, should I start rowing again?
Speaker 1:Yes, you should. I just did. I just started going and now I'm addicted again. I'm like crap. Am I going to start teaching again? Like crap.
Speaker 2:It's funny, life's like you think you're done. Just kidding, just kidding.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but that's a beautiful metaphor.
Speaker 2:I'm going to keep that. Yeah, I really really like that and it has. It's been, it's been a challenge to let my body just breathe and be like, oh, there's no fire I have to put out, there's no catastrophe, you're not going to have to change your job, you're not going to have to move home. So it's like, oh, this is just the chapter of steadiness. And if anything, the part that's been hard has been my softening into that. Yeah, and I'm pretty over the whole masculine feminine combo. Sometimes it's helpful.
Speaker 2:And my partner, he's really lovely at helping me into soften and to remind me of and to remind myself that my version of CEO is going to look really different than his version of CEO and that I'm allowed to to rest and to breathe and to lead from a place that feels soft instead of go, go, go, push, push, push. And luckily, I have a lot of people in my life that are really amazing at reflecting when I feel hard. And I appreciate that, because I do need those mirrors, because it's really easy for me to get rigid and to overwork, because I fucking love what I do. It's like taking the grand off the racetrack. I'm like put me back in, I want to go for another lap.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so you know it's so interesting, like I, like I parallel this a lot in my own life right now, which is that, like you know, it's like.
Speaker 1:The other word that was coming to mind for me was like around commitment. And you know, when you're in something and you're committed to it, and there's ups and downs and there's new, new information, and then there's a whole other curveball that happens here and that that's the. That's the phase that I felt like I've been in is like I'm committed to what I'm doing and like what the hell? Like this isn't what I signed up for, this wasn't what I like, there's a whole other thing over here that I thought was going to happen, and and then remembering that's like, well, you know what, like part of what being in commitment is like commitment to the, in this case, like my profession, my craft, like what I'm working towards is like is is not seeing those new opportunities as derailment of my study, but rather as like potentially like a power up, or a like a way for me to relax more or a way for me to receive more and it's it's.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, it's, it's. It's really interesting to see how that yeah, the masculine feminine thing I like laugh at that it's like I'm over it and it's like I it's same and what I'm not, what I'm, what I'm not over and I'm still learning for myself, is like what it is to be a woman in this environment, right.
Speaker 1:Which is very different than what it is to be a man, just by our biology. And so, like we need to, like we, just our nervous system is better when we're softened and when we can relax more and we can receive more, and so it has nothing. I don't need to, like you know, go down the path of like you know, oh, masculine this and feminine that it's like no, quite literally, I am a woman.
Speaker 2:Biology, biology to those of me and every 28 days I bleed. Some days I need to shout in a pillow, exactly.
Speaker 1:And and yeah and like that, that piece of like what, what makes life for me more enjoyable. Like you know, it's not just about the work, it's not just about the experience of like what can I create or what can I do, or how revolutionary can I be, or all like. Sometimes this literally like no, just relax and get it. Just relax and enjoy this, enjoy this moment, enjoy the people you're around, enjoy what you're doing.
Speaker 2:The trail will keep blazing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's, it's. So I go to a network spinal. That's like my version of development right now and probably for the rest of my life. It's the most incredible modality. I actually my podcast episode comes up tomorrow with the woman that I see in Austin who's helped me. And it's like this beautiful attunement every week to like what is present in my energetic field and my emotional field and what do I want to be present with. And it's this accountability to feeling my feelings and then also moving the fuck on, like not needing to dwell in it and drown in it.
Speaker 2:And what was really present in my session today was being available to fully feel the extraordinary that is happening. And because I think it's really easy to constantly want to claim more, like claim more, claim more, get bigger, be better, climb the ladder, make the next hundred K, like whatever that goalpost is for you. And what I was noticing was that there was this gap between me witnessing the extraordinary but not actually feeling. It was like this she's of like why can't I actually take in and receive what is happening right now?
Speaker 2:I was just in big serve for my birthday with my partner and he works in the travel industry and so we usually get some pretty incredible opportunities to stay in amazing places, and I'm in what I would have deemed like one of the most beautiful resorts in the world Certainly that I've ever been to, and I remember like looking at it and not actually being able to take in its beauty. It was so overwhelming and that's a metaphor, though, for me for all of the beauty, not just like the extraordinary beauty, but the mundane beauty, to like seeing the light come into my window in a really beautiful way, and it creates this beautiful like rainbow of a reflection or taking a moment to just be with, like the delicious cup of coffee that I crafted for myself. And so it's a practice of me allowing life to move through me instead of at me or a witness to, and that is something I'm constantly now looking at and working on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like I'm thinking specifically, like my brain just like went to like the coaching industry and how everybody's trying to achieve and be better and change and do and shift, and like it's such and I mean I'm like, I'm part of this, like I offer.
Speaker 2:Coaching.
Speaker 1:We opt as a certification, like the whole thing is, is this idea of like can we move to the place where you want to go right? Whatever type of coaching you're going to provide, it's like you're here, you want to be here, let's help you get there. And what that can breed and create is like this constant need for achievement and this constant need for shift and change and progress, and or a way to measure the progress, and that like, if you're not moving, you're stuck, which is not yet true, like that's not actually true. And what I found in my own path and journey in life is like the more that I take the time to slow down and to be in the magic, similarly to how we started this conversation about being open to view.
Speaker 1:The magic is. The magic is in the every day. The magic is in the moment, right now. Because, like when we zoom the story all the way out to the whole picture of our life or the whole thing that we're trying to do, or like everything we're trying to manifest and everything that we want to experience, like that's too overwhelming, the pictures too big right, like you have to be in the scene that you're in, which is right here, right now, which is that I get to have this conversation with this amazing woman over zoom and, like you know, I'm looking out into my backyard in the winds rustling and like there's like really pretty sun like reflecting off this.
Speaker 1:I think it's like okay, that's awesome, you know, and it's like being able to have the experience Of being ultra present to enjoy the experiences, but then also still be able to see where it's going without having to be so into the land of for saying, and it's like you know and I think so much of I'm a, I am a recovering high achiever type, a personality like I saying they say recovering because I could. Just I've like decided, I like don't want to live like that anymore, like I still want to make, I would still want to have achievement, I still want to do great things. I still want to like again like do output create like all that? I just want to do it on such different terms, totally, I got.
Speaker 2:I feel that I'm going through something similar and I want to share something.
Speaker 2:My partner said to me last night that around like being present to the magic that's all around, because it was so strikingly different from anything anyone has ever said to me and he really helps me to like just consider the magic that is currently in front of us.
Speaker 2:He's a great mirror for that. But he was like have you ever thought about how everything that we're doing and experiencing right now is the product of somebody's greatest vision and dream? He's like somebody, for example, like they invented the microphone that we're speaking into, and somebody the rug that's under my feet like worked probably a year to create this rug, and the person that made the laptop, and like we're literally inundated with people's greatest gifts into the world. Like wow, that's really incredible. If you just take a moment to take that in, I was like that is. That is the example to me of like really being present, to how extraordinary life is. It doesn't have to be that you hit your first 100k. It's like the fact that this technology exists, even the fact that we exist, yeah this is reminding me a lot of.
Speaker 1:I had a woman on the show named Monica Parker and she's like she wrote a book called the Power of Wonder and it's. I love this book, I definitely recommend it and if you want, like or go back and listen to that podcast. It's like and she talks about wonder and awe from a perspective of psychology and why it's important, but then also like really integrated things around, like meditation and what she calls wonder walks, where it's like you go out and observe this and then she brings in psychedelics and so it's like a very complete. I found from my perspective of wonder and awe, it was a very complete coverage of it all because, like for me, if you didn't include the beautiful plant medicines, then you miss the back.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's so lovely and it's like the, the thing that I, you know it's like in all of those states when you're an awe of something or when you're looking out over a very beautiful scene, like you could, like you can, look at a picture on Instagram of the Grand Canyon and it's not very grand, but you could go stand in the Grand Canyon and you're going to really understand that grandness and vastness and you're going to have that like almost it's like an innate response of wonder and awe.
Speaker 1:Like you can't be difficult to not experience it in in those scenarios. And what, like her whole message was, was around like how can I experience that type of wonder and awe in my everyday life and how can I find it in the, in this, in the moments that I'm in, versus like trying to trying to paint it into this beautiful, massive narrative? And I really love the idea of like that, when we get to be that present and we get to be in the moment, like the magic seems so much more real or it feels so much more accessible. And sometimes I feel like I, even on this podcast, lose people to go into the land of like what is magic? But magic is really like the definition of magic I'm going to get this pretty close is like the apparent ability to influence.
Speaker 1:So it's like it's really like it's. It's just the apparent ability to influence, and right and like spells, a word or a combination of words of great influence and like. That's what this whole thing is. So it's a very, it's a very like, you know, like there's. There is the practical component to it, there is the grounded component to it, and then there's the mystical, which we're not going to be able to do justice or define in any way. You know, it's just.
Speaker 1:This is what it is, and I think that the the part about like bring back all the pieces of this conversation we've talked about so far, which is like stoking your fire and leaning into that and and going for the things and then being unafraid to shift and change the identity and recognize what's. You know what's your story versus someone else's, and so I think that's a really good point to give you when you put all that together. Like life is one beautiful piece of magic that it can be so easy to miss because we're talking about I just need a few more clients, or I just need this other thing, or I just the person who's there is. The story is fast, there's a lot of conflict, language, the breath isn't there, we're stuck in a place that is not here, like it's not the president, and so the unraveling of that is what this whole thing is maybe all about.
Speaker 2:Totally and to me, like the, the solution on top of the incredible work that you guys do it and lift, it is go fucking be in nature, yeah.
Speaker 2:You're spiraling, like we live in these concrete jungles, and then wonder why we're like anxious and paranoid and frantic and moving from moment to moment. It's like go put your fucking feet in the Pacific and then talk to me about your problems, like the ocean is going to fix everything. Or go stick your feet in the dirt and look at a redwood or go anywhere where you're surrounded by nature and all of a sudden your problems just don't matter anymore. And it's not to say that it's always that simple, but, my God, nature cures and solves so much and, at the minimum, just reminds us that it's so much greater than these challenges that we experience on a day to day and there's so much beauty and magic that we can't explain. But I think that one of the biggest problems is that we're so deeply disconnected from nature. And if you're feeling overwhelmed, just go put your fucking feet in the grass and then talk, yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, it's like so much of the like. We've done a couple episodes on this show called Fat, sick and Disconnected. We did like a couple of part deep dive on those things and this is like the common thread across all of the people that we work with in Lifted, a lot of the people that have been on this podcast. My story, your story, it starts in an aspect of like. It seems to most of the time start in a physical body, right, because it's like fitness, movement, food, like how can I optimize my health or how can I feel better, which then connects us more to our spirit, connects us more to like well, maybe not quite yet, right, it connects us to what's going on in our head. So it's like body, mind. And then we get into the spirit and we start to like, we start to have these deeper soul quests and we start to have like more we're, we're, we're, we're, finding out who we really are. And that's where the the Band-Aid Ripper stuff happens, because you're trying things on and you're trying on new things and then when you find the one that feels really good and you recognize like hey, this is the one I want to live in for a while, or this is when I want to live in forever. Like this is where I want to be, this is what I want to keep. That's its own interesting challenge in itself. Like we said with study, it's like that's its own, its own feeling, its own vibe, and it's and it takes a certain style of active participation to maintain Like. It takes a certain amount of like cultivation to keep it flowing and going. And it's yeah, and I think like too is like in the conversation of.
Speaker 1:Like now you're podcasting, you love telling stories, you've been, you're doing a whole different side of what I'm. What I'm going to assume is, as you're talking with people hearing their stories, how they got to the place that they're at and all of these curves of life that we've just talked about from ourselves, that we're also more similar than we are different. Like we've all had these pivotal moments. We've all had these stories that we've told. We've all had the shift and the change and I tried this thing on and that didn't really fit and I, you know, and clothes, men, jobs, whatever, it doesn't matter Like just didn't fit anymore. And so it's like now, when you're starting to like ask questions of people on your new show and you're you're digging in, you're like hearing their stories. What type of stories Like what are you, what are you most excited to learn, or what are you most excited to see and hear from people?
Speaker 2:That's a great question. Oh, am I most excited? So I can go like macro and micro. From the macro, I'm really excited to have conversations about the coaching industry, like I'm seeing a lot of the beginning of some of it dissolving, and like people that are actually doing this for a profession starting to rise, and this divide in the coaching industry and the morals and ethics and integrity of the coaching industry. I'm also really curious about contrarian conversations when it comes to things that we see as normal now but are probably not going to be normal in 10 years. One of the main things that I'm really interested in, especially for women's health, is Botox and how we're potentially poisoning ourselves on a daily basis. And then we are curious of what that's going to look like in a decade or two or three.
Speaker 2:And just bringing incredible people and it doesn't have to be that you created something that has never been done before. Period, it's just how did you do this for you? Because everyone's got their own blend of what looks and feels best for them. And then, on the micro level, I would say I'm really just turned on and excited by people who tell the truth and give it to me straight and are not afraid to ruffle feathers and aren't afraid to challenge me. And to me this is it's funny.
Speaker 2:I was interviewing someone a couple of weeks ago because I used to work in the world of intimacy from the sex and love aspect. But she goes Brynn, it was about intimacy all along for you. She's like look at what you do now professionally. You are creating intimacy with the people that you desire to be close to Like. This, to me, is a love language. When I was a baby, my mom would put me at the end of the table, they would take my pacifier out and they would ask me questions about life and love and the world. And so from the time that I could remember, love was deep conversations with the people that you care mostly about. And I've somehow miraculously landed in a job where I get to do that and create intimacy on a daily basis. And to me that's like the greatest contribution I could give to the world is helping you to be more intimate with yourself and being more intimate with the world.
Speaker 2:And I just fucking love stories. I'm captivated by stories. It's the most ancient form of communication. It was like how the guy from one tribe communicated to the other tribe like hey, don't eat that berry, you'll die, or don't hang out with this one. He was dangerous, like whatever. We told stories to survive and now we tell stories for survival, but also entertainment and inspiration and magic and hope and beauty and to feel something. I've been really obsessed with the moth, which I don't know if you've ever listened to the moth before. The moth is a story telling podcast and it's a venue where people like you and me tell a real story on a real stage in front of a real audience, and I'm like, oh yeah, more of this, less of all the stuff I think I need to consume in order to be the best version of myself. I'm like I already fucking know, I already have the answers for many things in my life. I can trust myself. Now I just want to listen to real humans, have real conversations.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it's so. Yes, absolutely yes. Like storytelling is a craft, storytelling is an experience. That's what I like. That's my favorite part about podcasting is telling stories.
Speaker 1:I'm also an avid writer. I love to write my own stories, but I don't do it in the way that like it's not, like I'm on lifted method, writing the story down. Here's what happened and these are the things like I write poetry, I write from a place of feeling. I write from a place of like you could set the scene in the story, but you also have to fill in the blanks from yourself because it's not, it's not so direct and all of that work.
Speaker 1:Like this idea of like we were talking yesterday about the concept of like a journal and a diary, I was, like this is like literally the world's oldest craft. Like as soon as people had paper and pen, like they were writing their things down in their diary. Like this is not a newer, novel thing to journal. Like this is like you know, like we have really cool, like you know, experiences of historical documents, of people's diaries and what happened in this. Like this, this, this log of experience and what has happened before and what has you know, and it's going to continue to happen. People are going to continue to tell stories forever, and I love the idea of like.
Speaker 1:Here's the other part that I like really think about too, from from bridging this gap between like storytelling as an art, as a craft, as a way of feeling, when the way that storytelling happens within the lifted style coaching is almost always like. These are stories people have locked away, that they don't want to tell and they have shame around, they have guilt around, they have deep emotions around, they have resistance to. And one of the most beautiful things about getting those stories down on paper and working through them and actually owning your story is realizing that every single piece of your story has made you who you are now and has set you up to tell the next chapter of your story and to create the next chapter of your story because it's not passively being told for you.
Speaker 1:You are the one writing it.
Speaker 2:What's really cool, too, is because I'm in the chapter now of less of my own story, more of the stories of others, where, like I, made a conscious decision to go from me, me, me, which it needed to be. I needed that chapter. I think everyone needs that chapter. You need to know who you are before you go relate to other, because otherwise you're not relating to anything. And now I feel like, okay, I feel pretty clear on who I am and my story. And now what it does is it opens up this awe and curiosity for other stories. And it's not just because I have a podcast. You don't need a podcast to be curious about other people's stories.
Speaker 2:I listened to my Uber drivers and I asked them questions. My waiter at the restaurant when I'm, you know, sitting at a cafe by myself and somebody walks by, I'm just genuinely curious about the world and I wonder, like, what were the hard things that you went through? What are the? What are the things that you're aspiring for? What? What made you who you are today? And I think that's all lost art for many people when we went well, certainly during COVID, where we all were in these like 10 little boxes and away from the world, but then it's like that didn't ever shake off and people lost their ability to interact with everyone. And I mean you'll be amazed at what will happen and the magic that will unfold if you just make eye contact and smile at someone. Oh yeah, and what you'll learn.
Speaker 2:It's incredible. I'm like, oh, I forgot how incredible the world is when you make eye contact.
Speaker 1:There's like three things happening in my brain right now.
Speaker 1:We're living so disconnected and so not in the 3d because of our devices and because of the internet and because of our ability to have access to anyone at any time.
Speaker 1:There's that piece that's happening. Then there's the piece about we're so scared to be seen for who we are that it is difficult for us to show up and confidently smile at someone else or to accept a compliment or to answer those types of questions. And then there's there's this other piece that I'm thinking about. That's bringing me back to something you mentioned about just like watching how the coaching industry is shifting and changing and the me, me, me of it. Right, like I have seen a lot of coaching and a lot of people and I'm, I have to be guilty of this myself I was going to say probably, but like I know, I'm guilty of this myself where it's not actually about helping the other person, it's about you being validated and who you are, and you being built up into who you are and you being, you know, you having the answer, or being the guru, or having the right thing, and and it's not necessarily about like and and that's like.
Speaker 1:I'll say it in a sense of like.
Speaker 1:I think that's just like the immature component of coaching, like before you really realize like, what, what this as a career could be, and look like, and you develop more skills and you realize, oh wait, this was never about me, I'm just the guide, I'm just here to you know, be, be the transmitter of, like, how the stuff is moving through.
Speaker 1:It's like I'm not, I'm not actually part of this equation other than to just guide and steward for somebody else.
Speaker 1:But it's so interesting to me to think about how, how those, all of those things like afraid to be seen, or I'm like trying to be seen so hard that, like, you accept me and love me and validate me, but I'm only showing you a curated image, I'm not going to show you the whole thing, like I'm not going to let you really see and then being able to hide behind our devices and then you go out and it's like you start to have the conversation with the Uber driver, the person in the cafe or, I'm sure, in dating too like how difficult that is to actually connect with people vulnerably, to ask questions and to build that style of intimacy that's like wow, no, I really do. I am getting to know you. I mean, I'm hearing your stories, I'm hearing what your life is about and what you've been up against and what you've moved through. And that can only happen when you start to really listen, when you actually open up to listen versus trying to be the one to tell.
Speaker 2:It's about being open. Again, it comes to me, comes back to being open to magic, and I'll play games, like when I'm at the airport. I'm like how fucking radiant and magnetic can I be? What can I attract in this moment? And again, not for me, but like for the magic of the universe, like what could? What cool shake could happen and you literally feel yourself elevating, like you feel your vibration getting higher or you feel the energy shifting and becoming more potent, and I can't imagine that a person who lives their life like that is going to have an ordinary life Like they're going to have an extraordinary life.
Speaker 2:Yesterday I was on a plane and I was at the very back of the plane and so by the time I got to my seat, I had to literally essentially make eye contact and face I don't know how many rows of people there. I was a completely full flight and I remember being like this is your runway, strut eye contact, smile, you're having the time of your fucking life. And I did, and it filled me with so much energy to give that energy out, to smile and make eye contact and be like hi, how's it going? People were looking like who she talking to me, like they would turn their head around because people aren't used to being spoken to, and it's like wow, how much of their reality just shifted. Because I showed them that's OK.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I had this is. I think you'll love this one. I had a really interesting experience.
Speaker 1:I was out thrifting last weekend and I would say that this was the combination of a compliment and a cat call, and I was just looking at some antique teacups and look at you know, or like what I mean, not even antique and this a man like walked up behind me I hadn't seen him yet and he just says he's like you look amazing. And I turned and I looked at him and I said thank you and I smiled and his response was like oh my, like. You know, he was like oh my God, like he's, like you're welcome. And the thing was I was like, when I looked at him, my, my initial response like could have been oh my God, this man, these little creepy looking, he's not, this is not somebody that I actually want to receive a compliment from, or. And I could have been like right, and I could have dismissed it.
Speaker 1:But I just responded genuinely and I said thank you and I smiled and what that evoked out of him was something that was like it was. It was so not threatening at all. It was like he was like yeah, I really you do, and like you're welcome, Like I'm glad that you could receive that. And I thought to myself. I was like wow, if women could really like I don't not saying like tell every guy who whistles at you as you walk down the street to like say thank you, but when you can feel that it's not threatening and you can feel that it is a genuine expression to say thank you Because that, like ripple, like it made him feel good and it made me feel good, honestly, of course it's not like it didn't need to be this, like whole thing.
Speaker 1:I was like that's human, like that interaction is is human. And then when you go, you know and it's like even now I'm thinking about this time I was going through OK, this is for context, this wasn't for me. I was going through a Starbucks drive through, ok everybody who knows me knows I would never drink Starbucks.
Speaker 2:It's trash, trash coffee. Throw out your Starbucks.
Speaker 1:Literally. So I'm going through the Starbucks, drive through and picking up a coffee, and I get to the window and the woman you know she's like oh, here, pay. And she says to me she's like how's your day going? And I go, my day's fantastic. And she looks at me. She goes, oh my God, really. She's like, wow, really, no one ever says that.
Speaker 1:And I was like, yeah, it's like I was having a great day. I'm about to go meet a friend and you know, like it's things are going great. And she's like, oh, what were you doing? I was like I don't remember what I was doing, but I know I was working that day and I was like, oh, I was just working. And she's like and you were excited about it, and like you have, what do you do? And I was like, oh, this is like. I was like now this is getting interesting and fun because she's having an interaction. That's like somebody who says Making your life. Yeah, it's like in that moment where she's like, wow, this is a different story, like I haven't heard anyone say this, yeah, and so we continue the conversation and strike up a little bit. She hands me the drink and I say, ok, see you later and off I drive and you know I could tell she was like wow, that was cool.
Speaker 2:Like totally different energy it could be. Those are the types of comfort. It's one. I said this one time I don't think you were there I said one word, changing one word can change your life, when I was at a conference with Mark. He was doing a workshop and I believe that the power of changing one word and I would take that into apply it to this conversation One conversation can change your life. It can give you one seat of information, one new thought, one new level of consciousness, whatever it may be, that could change the trajectory of your entire life and if you look at it that way, you're going to become a more curious person, you're going to become a more open person, because you never know what's around the corner and, who knows, maybe for her. She fucking quit her Starbucks job.
Speaker 2:Yeah, maybe she did Wait you can love what you do. I'm over this place. Or maybe she just started finding more joy and magic in her day to day, and I think that's the beauty of relating to other people.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely. I think, like you know, we talk a lot about the victim mentality within the unlifted sphere and I think it's pretty, it's pretty relatable. Once you hear that definition and once you're familiar with it, it's like, yeah, there's a lot of people out in the world that are living in a victim mentality and it's also easy for a person to say like, oh, dude, fix your victim mentality, like that's your problem, not mine. But there's an act of kindness and an act of compassion that when you have cleared that for yourself and you are a person who is smiling and breathing well and enjoying yourself, you don't necessarily have to recite the definition and tell them all about conflict, language and how they should change their whole internal dialogue. You can be the example of purely just, of loving, open presence and see them for where they're at, and that can, that could be the pattern or up in itself. You know, and it's such a yeah, it's so, oh man there's magic everywhere.
Speaker 2:So much good stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean yeah, I think taking the pressure off of doing and just being is I mean, it's everything being that example is so potent. And there's a woman that I follow, sage Aubrey, and I always love when I get on Instagram and I find a woman that I've never found before, who is like making waves, so inspiring. I'm like, oh my God, you're on the corner of the Internet. I hadn't found you and I'm so fucking glad I did, because, holy shit, you're incredible and there's so many more people like that that I've yet to meet. It's incredible to think about. But she doesn't know who I am. We have never engaged outside of her DM. She would probably not remember my face or name, but she has changed me already just by being who she is, because she's so bold and so fantastic and the way that she shows up in the world is just loud and colorful and and sassy, and she's given me so much permission to be even more extra, like. That's the perfect example of a woman who we've never even met and she's changed me.
Speaker 2:I can feel the internal shift just by being in her energetic field. That's fucking miraculous. So who are we doing that for? That we don't even realize it's incredible, and it's it's excites me to think that there's so many more people like that that I've yet to meet on both ends the receiving and the giving where it's like this beautiful synergy of I'm doing that for someone and someone's doing that for me, and I'm so here for that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I, yes, same, and I think about too is like in this context of like, where so much of similar to where we were saying it's like the, we'll call it like the fallout of the junk in the coaching industry, I think that there's something that's really that is so special about the time that we live in now, being so connected as we are and say what you want about people being censored or about the media being manipulated or controlled.
Speaker 1:We've never lived in a time with this much free speeches. Now, like that's just not even like, yes, okay, fine, there's people that are being censored and, yes, there are things that are not getting put out. But like we have never in the history of human beings and I think that's something that's really special but like we have never in the history of human beings had more free speech and more access to information and more like perspective to learn and hear from than now, like there's just no chance.
Speaker 1:And so part of that experience can be the overwhelming piece of I don't know what's true or not true, but another part of that can be the magic of that experience, which is that I can choose what's true for me, and I can choose who I want to learn from and who I want to model my life after and Ryan Sprague quotes this as being Paul check, so I'll say that it's Paul check, which is that like basically like learn from the people that you want their results.
Speaker 1:So like only learn from somebody. If you want the result that they got and so like. If you want the result that this person created, then go learn from them and go see how they did it and see what their stories are, and see what their methods are, and see how they got there and be curious, and not that you need to replicate it exactly, but that it's something that is available to you as an option, because there's infinite options.
Speaker 2:I was on a sales call the other day with a woman who wants to start a podcast. We do strategy for people who we have every level of like. We do the full production all the way to. We'll just give you the strategy to, we'll launch your show for you and then you may maintain it. But she wanted strategy of how to start her show and we were having a conversation and one of the questions I asked you know, is tell me why, like, why do you want to start a podcast? And I'm always so intrigued by what people have to say. But her response was so incredible and she said something like you know podcasting, she listens, she's an avid listener, which I hope that you are if you want to start your own show. But she said she's like, I'm an avid listener and I'm always so amazed at the education and the learning and what it's giving me access to. She's like I've changed who I am because of the information that is available to me on the internet through podcasts.
Speaker 1:And I thought about that, me too, girl, me too.
Speaker 2:I was like I've been receiving information on podcasts for probably a decade now and, holy shit, I am so grateful for the information that has been made available to me, because this thing has been created.
Speaker 2:And when she put it that way, I was like, wow, I really wish more people could see it that way, that you know, maybe you can afford the $10,000 investment with a coach, but chances are, the information that they're giving you is available on a show somewhere, yeah, and you just need to know what to look for and what to listen for.
Speaker 2:And most of the time when we pay coaches, yes, we're paying them for information that they've synthesized for us, and thank God because they've done a lot of the hard work to go and sift through and learn and then condense it into an easy to understand formula, which I love.
Speaker 2:Like, as a coach, I get paid to learn, which is like the coolest thing in the world, um, so that you don't have to and you get the condensed version. But you're also accessing and paying for their energy, and I think that's actually why a lot more people buy coaching than they realize is you're leasing their energetic field for the time that you're in a container with them, and that's sometimes just as potent, because, the truth is, you can Google podcast strategy like anyone can Google that but, like, you probably want to be on a call with me, which is why we're having this conversation, and I don't feel afraid to say that, like, I feel confident in I've learned my shit, I know what I'm doing, and that's why people want to be around me, and I think that's an amazing thing to really own and be confident about. It's like, oh, you just want to be in the room with me and I'm so here for that and, yes, I'm going to help you fucking expand, because I take that privilege very seriously.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I absolutely. Yes, I agree, I agree entirely. And I brings me back to what you were talking about earlier, about putting yourself in the room with the people that give you imposter syndrome. And here's the thing this is like. This is so powerful and also like daunting, which is that the only way you're going to get bigger is if you put yourself in a bigger container, Like if you're a plant. You can only grow so far until you outgrow your pot, right, Like the environment matters and the people you put yourself around matter, and you have to find the thing that makes you feel bigger, that makes you feel like you're being stretched, that makes you feel like, oh, my God, like this, this is stretching my mind and the possibilities of what's. It's changing my perspectives or it's changing my, my, my scale. Right, that's a.
Speaker 1:That was another thing that I was feeling in New York, as I was like noticing how much money there is in the world and how much infinite access there is, Like yeah, there's money in Virginia, but not anywhere close to the amount of money that's in New York, and it's just like okay, like in inflationary ways and also in very real ways, which is like you know what people are spending as average cost of rent. You know, and it's like, it's freaking crazy, Like, and since I lived there last, I'm making the estimate that rent prices have gone up like 30 to 40%, which is insane. I believe it. And totally Like I don't even know if I could afford to move back there. I'm like let's go start making some more money here People is like this is a good girl's.
Speaker 1:Life is expensive there. But yeah, it's like so much of that feeling of like realizing what is actually that collective energy of like what, what bigness really is, and like how you can go bigger and how you need to see bigger to even know the bigger is possible. Because if you've never been in a bigger space or seen as somebody who's done something bigger, bigger or more expansive, how can you know that that, like you need those people to, to stretch you expanders Totally.
Speaker 2:And I put myself a couple of times where, like, my back's been up against the wall and I've put myself in financial positions where I didn't have the money. I was like I don't know how this is going to show up, but I want that thing and I'm more stubborn and I don't take no for an answer, and so I'm going to figure it out. Do I think that's the best thing for everyone? No, but that's what I needed. To move the needle and to expand was to put myself in a situation where you're going to have to come up with the money. So now it's you know, do or die, and thankfully I didn't die. So it just.
Speaker 2:It also, I think, comes down to really knowing who you are and knowing what style works for you, cause for some people that would send them into a Tizzy. I had one client who, like we, put the tiniest amount of debt on her credit card and she, like, couldn't sleep at night. I've built my capacity to have debt and see it as a tool to leverage my future self. I'm really comfortable with that. I sleep just fucking fine with debt on my credit card. But I think it just takes knowing, like your, tolerance for risk. I happen to have a really high tolerance for risk.
Speaker 1:So it's the story right. Because, like the way that I've actually been I was having this conversation very recently about deconstructing the stories around money and like, first of all, we've been taught that debt is bad forever and we've been told like it's expensive and it's bad and it's constrictive and you'll you know, you're going to like, lose everything if you go into too much debt, when in reality, the wealthiest people in the world leverage debt as the biggest and best tool and so like. And if you didn't know that and you were never shown that then and you realize that actually debt is a powerful tool and you could adopt that even if you're not the wealthiest person, like that's a shift in story. That's not a shift in what the thing is good, bad, how it's used, whatever. It's just shifting your story and so much around, like how people, how people look at and experience those things.
Speaker 1:Right, it's never again. It's never the actual. You know the $500 on the credit card, it's the meaning about that and what it's going to do and how it pokes out the little you and the memories you have about you know, and it's exciting, those emotions. And then now here we are and it's a whole deep dive, you know, into whole different lands.
Speaker 1:But it's like so much of that stuff is like, yeah, the expanders of people that can help you change your story is to be more complete about how, how I would say it, which is that how can you help me change my story? And that's when you use that discernment of like go for the person who has the results that you want, because if you see somebody who's like, you know and this is also the thing we talked about in the beginning, about the people who are maybe the biggest haters they might look at you and say I want that. And the way they know how to express or to or to suppress within themselves is to make it wrong or to make it bad, or to make it you know and it's nothing is inherently good or bad.
Speaker 1:It's just how you decide to.
Speaker 2:To absolutely to experience that I am. When we were in Big Sur, I mentioned we were staying at some like really incredible hotels and I chose a partner where that is available to me, like that is his work, and we will travel in really luxurious and amazing ways.
Speaker 1:I watch you guys and I'm just like damn.
Speaker 2:So it's so amazing and I, for the first time in my life I maybe not the first time, but like one of the first times I can really remember I had the ooh is this weird to share? Like, am I being too much? Am I gonna look like I'm bragging? And then that lasted for about four seconds and I thought, fuck, no. Because I was the person a couple years ago where I was watching women.
Speaker 2:There was like a specific image of a coach that she was in a bikini on the beach and like live in her best life. And like, look so free. And had she not shown her that version of herself, I, yes, wouldn't have been envious, but I also wouldn't have been expanded. And so, after I got over myself, I posted the story because I'm like you know what? There's somebody out there that wants this, that doesn't know that this is possible, and who the fuck am I to stop that? I want to be an expander, I want to be an inspiration, I want to be a beacon of this is what is possible, and I want someone else to do that for me. So I hope that whoever else is further along in the journey they get over their own bullshit too, because I want to be expanded just as much. So it just, it's all synergistic Giving and the receiving.
Speaker 1:But I love the way you just said that where you're like, well, who the fuck am I and that's actually what stops people most of the time is like, well, who am I to share this? I shouldn't share this. And when, in reality, you're like who am I to not share this? Like who?
Speaker 2:am I to?
Speaker 1:gatekeep. Like you know, it's a whole different whole different way to ask the question.
Speaker 1:And yeah, it's like, and also like I, I appreciate so much all the content that you share.
Speaker 1:I've, like, from a perspective of as long as I've known you, I've always appreciated what you share because you feel like the person who goes first.
Speaker 1:I'm like, damn, she's doing it.
Speaker 1:Oh, my God, she's saying it, Okay, cool, and it's expanded me in many ways and you know the experience of like having those types of friends, like in people that, like I, I make an effort to like to find those people and then to keep them as long as I can keep them, because it's like, if you're that type of person who's like an expansive person, like the likelihood of you stopping doing that type of like sharing your story and experiences is unlikely, Like you're just going to keep doing it and I, and, and yeah, and, and how, and it has me thinking like how can I share that even more for people who want to be expanded by me?
Speaker 1:And how can I, how can I do more, share more from a place of being even more vulnerable, even more raw in the ways that might stretch me or make me uncomfortable, but is going to do the same for someone else in the best possible way and, rather than thinking only about what you share and how your contact is going to impact you is really think about how is this going to impact other people, and is that going to make it less scary for me to say yes to?
Speaker 2:all that fire baby.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I can talk to you forever.
Speaker 2:Same. You're a beautiful host. You ask amazing questions and you're really lovely at weaving conversations organically, so thank you for that. It felt really good to be on the receiving end today.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like I tell people like I love being on the other side of the podcasting, where I get to just talk freely and have somebody else like guide the thing. But I also really like this too.
Speaker 2:Totally Well, you're great at it, so keep going.
Speaker 1:Thank you, oh, I'm glad. Yeah, I'm very much, I'm very excited I have. One of the things that I'm working on and expanding myself in is this podcast in the show and really just like thinking about ways that I can make it more me and also more about the listeners and more about the brand and more of like how, how the whole thing is growing and shaping. And I've been in the like in the womb of it. I'll say like I've been like really kind of like creating it without without having much going out, as much as as much going out I mean same amount of episodes going out but it's just like I'm feeling in that stage of like the process of a I won't even call it a rebirth.
Speaker 1:That sounds like you're dramatic, just a creative up level for me, you know, yeah, and so it's been. It's been really cool and exciting and I have I'm thinking, I'm thinking longer term. So I'm really kind of thinking about like what do I want to do with the show in 2024 and how do I want to grow it and shape it? And that's why I was getting really excited. When I saw that you were working with Soul Fryer, I was like, oh, hell, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so yeah, it's definitely something that is like you know where I'm, where my brain is going and what I want to do and how I want to grow it. Grow myself, get the guys on board to grow with me too. You know, because doing things in a team is always fun and exciting.
Speaker 2:Oh, totally you get that.
Speaker 1:Oh wait, I have to run this by someone yeah like oh wait, hold on. I have other people here that like and honestly, though, like Mark and Adam are so funny because they're like this is your show, do whatever you want with it. And I'm like, yeah, I could do that. And if I really do whatever I want with this guys thing, yeah be careful what you wish for. I was like I'm gonna turn into the goddess getaway show of like yeah yeah, I'm a kid, I'm a baby.
Speaker 1:Oh, my God. Well, bryn, thank you so much for chatting with me and chatting with us and having the whole open, vulnerable conversations that you're always down to have, and how can everyone hear more from you it?
Speaker 2:was my pleasure. Thank you for having me and for, yeah, keeping up with the podcast. You can find me on trailblazer, and trailblazer is two words. We separated. It's nice and sexy on. You know every place that you listen to a podcast at Bryn Dailler on Instagram. And then the company that I'm so proud to work for is called Soulfire Productions and we help with all things podcast production.
Speaker 2:But I think what's incredible is that it's not actually about the podcast. I think I said this at the beginning of the show when you are willing to be seen and heard, it's going to poke at some stuff, and I see this a lot where people are like it's fine that my show is really small and I don't get that many downloads and I want to keep it a creative hobby. But that's not the business side of me, that's the coach side that's going to come out and go mm-mm. You didn't start this to play small. You want to make an impact in the world and I think our team is spectacular at seeing people and asking you to be even greater, and so if you're ready to step into your own greatness and make an impact, then our team is so happy to help you with that.
Speaker 1:Yes, you didn't start this to play small. You started this play big, so let's do it.
Speaker 2:Amen, yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 1:I love that. Yeah, I love you too. Thank you so much and listeners you know, you got to go listen to. I loved your solo episodes and then when I realized that you were going to interview people, I was like selfishly, I was like no.
Speaker 2:Don't worry, it is always going to stay a blend of solos, so yeah, thank you for that feedback.
Speaker 1:Maybe I can be on episode.
Speaker 2:Oh, you love that Absolutely.
Speaker 1:I love you planting that, oh my god, you know intentional soft talk with a wink.
Speaker 2:I love that Fucking. Shoot your shot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, right, yeah, okay, adios guys, hey, coach, ready to get your clients out of their own way and over their shitty mindset? Start by learning the words and make mindset coaching practical. Master the uplifted method and guide your clients to lasting results by changing their words. To enroll in the next class of in lifted level one certification, head on over to a lifted dot me and click get certified. Let us know your love in the show. Subscribe, leave a five star review and be sure to share it with your friends. Abracadabra.
