#63 - Tribute To Akira Toriyama: The Bebop Boys mourn the creator of Dragon Ball

Welcome back to the Bebop Podcast ! We have a sad one today, as we say rest in peace to a legend, the Godfather of Mange & Anime, Akira Toriyama. The Boys talk about their favorite DBZ movies, How DBZ impacted their lives and say a final thank you to Toriyama Sensei. All this in more, on THIS episode of Dragon Ball Bebop. 

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Transcript

Marty - Episode 63: 
[1:16] Fellas, fellas, fellas, boppers, boppers, boppers Welcome back What it do.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:21] Baby?

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:21] Welcome back It's a dope episode, you know what I mean? But, uh, you know You know that all of us are here I know.

Matt - Episode 63:
[1:29] We finally got the crew together It's an honor to be on one with Marty again 

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:34] Yo appreciate that, man.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:34] Yeah it took a death in a family yeah.

Matt - Episode 63:
[1:37] Unfortunately this is the circumstances for that but.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:41] Go ahead nope.

Matt - Episode 63:
[1:42] You go ahead.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:43] Uh so uh this episode is dedicated to the godfather of manga and anime akira toriyama uh he passed away this past weekend at the time of this recording so this entire um episode of the be my boy podcast will be dedicated to him what he's done for us all of uh what he's done for us personally what he's done for manga anime the medium of anima i'm sorry of anime and mangas and what how we move forward just.

Matt - Episode 63:
[2:16] The impact on media in general.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[2:18] Yeah media in general yeah that's so true so and uh.

Marty - Episode 63:
[2:22] Creating the greatest anime ever so you know.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[2:23] Let's uh it is what how y'all been man no but he's right though Well, we're not even going to get into this argument today.

Marty - Episode 63:
[2:28] We're respecting him this morning.

Matt - Episode 63:
[2:32] We're not going to argue. Let's respect.

Nick - Episode 63:
[2:34] Everybody can't talk at once.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[2:35] I'm curious and say.

Nick - Episode 63:
[2:36] Everybody can't talk at once. People on the listening side get so confused.

Matt - Episode 63:
[2:41] Oh, yeah, this transcript is going to be hell.

Marty - Episode 63:
[2:43] It's cool.

Matt - Episode 63:
[2:45] Oh, yeah.

Nick - Episode 63:
[2:46] Poor Matt. He's a trooper on that one.

Matt - Episode 63:
[2:49] Oh, man, it's fun when you guys always talk over each other.

Marty - Episode 63:
[2:52] Thank you for your dedication. we can clockwise this shit go ahead lear how was your week bro.

Leer - Episode 63:
[2:57] Uh your week in one minute real quick yeah well uh week was the week was uh tough man i got the news that uh a curator i'm a past man and it was i actually it was from a site that wasn't reliable so i didn't like believe it and didn't want to share it pornhub no somebody on twitter who is not uh who should be muted who i should mute donald.

Matt - Episode 63:
[3:20] Trump look at me.

Leer - Episode 63:
[3:21] I didn't know my bad i'm looking around i'm making Thank you for making me included. Same.
Anyway, I got the news and I thought it was fake so I didn't want to share it. But then...
uh sorry unfortunately somebody always texts me bad news like when mac passed kobe passed somebody always texted me and it's always this specific person and i'm like oh my god it's freaking real so i'll put it on facebook and the people didn't believe me nobody believed nobody believed it at first they.

Marty - Episode 63:
[3:52] Didn't believe you or they.

Leer - Episode 63:
[3:53] No they just didn't believe the news because it was he's such a he's such an icon he's such he's such a he's such a fucking icon and you can can just see by the amount of love that he's getting from everybody everything from music to movies to um to shows to this and he's have been.

Matt - Episode 63:
[4:12] There's been big plans with uh dragon ball like lately like the manga video.

Leer - Episode 63:
[4:17] Game now like dark dark motion outside.

Nick - Episode 63:
[4:24] Of that yeah.

Matt - Episode 63:
[4:30] I thought that was the manga that they ended up doing because i know in the manga they made uh movie canon.

Leer - Episode 63:
[4:38] Yeah they did they did yeah.

Nick - Episode 63:
[4:39] Yeah okay they made dragon ball super superhero movie.

Leer - Episode 63:
[4:43] Oh yeah yeah okay but oh yeah other than that man honestly bro i just i watched uh a lot of dragon ball this weekend i i started with the sand saga and i'm just on the Namekian saga I'm not even trying to skip no episodes Wes told me to just bro just skip to the freezer fight even though that's like three hours in itself but like shoot I was watching that shit tearing up, I was like damn this shit is the whole Goku and Vegeta fight in the Saiyan saga it was honestly it was shorter than I thought it was I thought that shit was like 15 episodes it was like five but yeah that was my weekend.

Matt - Episode 63:
[5:16] Yeah I got the it kind of broke to me from seeing you guys talk about it in the group chat and And...
i don't have as close as a relationship to his art as you guys do but it is something that was like in my childhood you're.

Leer - Episode 63:
[5:33] Old as fuck that's what you're saying.

Matt - Episode 63:
[5:34] Maybe but it does hold like the biggest most uh biggest spot in my childhood of nostalgia watching uh lincoln park music videos with like dragon ball z the edits like that and then i was always a video game kid like i always played the video games and stuff like star wars i never watched the star wars movies until recently and then only played the game so a dragon ball i played budokai all pretty much all of them up to budokai tenkaichi 3 and then that's when i actually watched dragon ball z and i was like oh so.

Leer - Episode 63:
[6:07] You played the games first and then watched them.

Matt - Episode 63:
[6:09] Yeah yep and that's that's how i was with star wars as well i can't think of any off the top of my head i'm not going to sit here to think about it but um yeah and so seeing that uh like how i was saying all the content that he's going to be coming out with soon and that's been or at least uh anticipated for seeing that he passed before these things just came out kind of like hit close especially when we've been talking about the impact of animes and like the state of anime today and how marty was saying it's the best anime ever and it's still testing the truth of time passing the tests of time that's a better one that's a better one i like that.

Persia - Episode 63:
[6:50] One the most though so that's the new saying right there just test the truth of time here bro it's.

Nick - Episode 63:
[6:56] Triple p's baby.

Matt - Episode 63:
[6:57] Dragon ball really test the truth of time i'm.

Nick - Episode 63:
[7:00] Gonna work it into my day tomorrow at work.

Matt - Episode 63:
[7:02] All right well with these glasses.

Nick - Episode 63:
[7:03] You just gotta test the truth of time you know i'm gonna do it just for you.

Matt - Episode 63:
[7:08] Thank you and let me know when when you do it oh i will thank you all right sweet sandland.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[7:13] The series, all the robots who think.

Marty - Episode 63:
[7:20] They're west just said the time the series is a red ribbon series oh yeah.

Leer - Episode 63:
[7:25] I know what you're talking.

Marty - Episode 63:
[7:26] About and it's like testing i know what.

Nick - Episode 63:
[7:27] You're talking about.

Leer - Episode 63:
[7:28] You said what marty i.

Marty - Episode 63:
[7:29] Was letting people know what west was saying oh yeah we can't hear the red ribbon series they can't hear them so i figured like i'll just provide context but yeah.

Matt - Episode 63:
[7:37] Other than that just been working on music i actually been um on beatstars again posting my music there to sell it uh i've been waiting to put a lot more out to actually promote it but cool other than that that's the only thing i missed optimistic thing about my weekend other than and akira toriyama how about you marty.

Marty - Episode 63:
[7:54] Uh week was man my week was kind of chaotic bro i was already watching dragon ball like when the news had dropped so i was like damn kind of wicked yo yeah i was only like just like uh because i had got crime yeah it is yeah like um i got crunchy roll and then i had used my girl card to get it i was like fuck it yeah i mean and then i tried to figure out what i was gonna watch at night type shit and i thought i can run a dragon ball back it was really on some argumentative shit like all right man he's gonna fucking one piece these motherfuckers annoying so i'm gonna go check out dragon ball because like i gotta go see if it's like really legit anime or was i just tripping on some nostalgia shit you know they should have been on that bro so i checked it out dog and i was like oh no this shit really like a legit anime so i got like a whole bunch of different points dragon ball just the original dragon ball original oh okay the og yeah like with goku and like just grounded yeah yeah bro like so i was doing that and then it's crazy that the day that toriyama died uh i was picking my lady up from work and shit and i seen like actual human dying shit which was crazy though like because uh it was like gta style like a homie got hit in the middle of the street it was on wilbur's on the news and shit and everything like what the fuck wow bro homie blew up blue light though he thought the light was west side wasn't it downtown right in front of lca so that happened and i was like god damn i gotta get in the career this one come outside like shit man yeah so that was that man but other than that uh just been chilling chilling uh working school all types of shit but i definitely I had to pull up for this episode Cause DBZ.

[9:17] That shit kinda raised me bro Not really having a father In the crib and shit So like even like when i doubled back with a dragon ball and just listened to like goku's characteristics and like how he was like noble and like just turned all the time and shit oh yeah i kind of see like how i gravitated towards like anime and shit so makes sense that was my week man what about you brother.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[9:35] Uh my weekend was fine just doing the same just working uh that's it uh i heard the news through the group chat actually yeah uh you guys notified me um via the group chat and it got a fuck with me um and it realized it made me realize of mortality that how old we're getting um your intrusive thoughts again um because we lost jason david frank last year who was the original green power ranger yeah that hit me pretty hard and now akira toriyama uh my heroes are dying i.

Nick - Episode 63:
[10:08] Feel you i don't know why i thought you're about to bring up my hero academia all right i'm the same i mean that's the way weird way to throw that in there yeah i thought.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[10:14] That nerds i thought that too nerds the curator.

Nick - Episode 63:
[10:17] Amma died my hero his favorite my.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[10:20] My heroes are dying the people who raised me who put me into this medium of anime superheroes all types of fly shit uh put me there we're losing them and it breaks my heart um so yeah i've been on a of Dragon Ball Binge as well.
Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z. I've been watching them all, just like sporadically.
Not necessarily in order, but just...

Leer - Episode 63:
[10:44] You didn't say GT, did you?

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[10:48] What's GT?

Nick - Episode 63:
[10:49] GT, well, no, hold on.

Marty - Episode 63:
[10:50] Don't do that, don't do that.

Matt - Episode 63:
[10:53] Welcome to the Grand Tournament. Hold on, hold on, hold on.

Nick - Episode 63:
[10:56] Time out, time out, time out. We will say this, GT, for what it was, he wasn't a part of it, but he did write the Super 17 saga, and he did design Super Saiyan 4 Goku.
So, the two best things to come from GT were from Toriyama.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[11:13] But as a show, it's not great. But anyways, so I've been going to everything except for GT.
To answer that question That's the only thing that's worth it Baby Vegeta Baby Vegeta He alright I had.

Matt - Episode 63:
[11:32] A toy with him as a kid.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[11:33] Vegeta having a beard He had a mustache, Sanas aren't.

Nick - Episode 63:
[11:39] Supposed to be able to grow their hair.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[11:41] That's been retconned They can do it now They went to the hyperbolic time chamber And they worked out for like 3 days And they all came out with beards Yeah.

Nick - Episode 63:
[11:49] But I think the hair on their head doesn't grow.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[11:51] Yeah the mustache and.

Nick - Episode 63:
[11:53] The facial hair But.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[11:54] Yeah Because.

Nick - Episode 63:
[11:55] He cut his hair in GT.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[11:56] So he was stuck with that fucking Weird ass fucking.

Nick - Episode 63:
[12:00] Military Fucking what's my man's from.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[12:03] Street Fighter Guile Guile But yeah so that's it Like I said I've been just going through certain episodes Along the way Dragon Ball is weird The original Dragon Ball, it's a it's a great show it's the slapping the poom poom that's.

Nick - Episode 63:
[12:24] Because you used to grandpa going having the balls.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[12:25] The poom poom like but you're definitely a girl but that's why i had to.

Marty - Episode 63:
[12:31] Find out somehow but that's why i fucked with it bro because.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[12:34] I feel like.

Marty - Episode 63:
[12:34] It was true to like what man manga really was like originally.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[12:38] Geared towards it was geared towards.

Marty - Episode 63:
[12:40] Adults bro so like even when i seen like i think like goku dick was out.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[12:43] Yeah for real.

Marty - Episode 63:
[12:45] Bro but like Like, that's, like, it was, like, really true to, like, its origins.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[12:49] Yeah.

Marty - Episode 63:
[12:50] You know what I mean? So, like, it was.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[12:51] So, yeah. That's been my weekend. Persia?

Persia - Episode 63:
[12:58] I think that, for me, it was. I read that, and then it was kind of like.
Like, I saw the news over the weekend. And it was kind of weird because it was,
Impact and Immortality of Dragon Ball

[13:11] like, one of the. It was, like, a feeling of, like.
you ever like had a situation where like this is gonna sound like a weird analogy but like a friend that like you used to be friends with died and then you just like damn like you still feel for the you still feel for the situation because it's like you know we go back and forth about like dragon ball all the time and like that kind of shit like that and i love i love dragon ball but like, it just came so out of fucking left field to me that where it was like like i wouldn't think of him dying you know like yeah like it wouldn't you wouldn't yeah like because dragon it's so dragon ball is like relevant it's still it's on such a fucking pedestal that you tend you kind of forget that it even had a creator yeah like you don't think about the creator of dragon ball kind of immortal it's the brand.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[14:07] Is immortal that it's beyond it reminds me of harry potter a little little bit to where you know how jk rowling is a transphobe no you can hear it no.

Leer - Episode 63:
[14:19] Bro the way that dick looked up.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[14:21] That shit was crazy go ahead keep going in the way that uh jk rowling is a transphobe and like we still kind of support and just like dismiss her you know even though she's a raging transform because the brand transcends it.

Persia - Episode 63:
[14:35] Transcends that person it transcends that person And she's.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[14:39] Probably just a Uniscool part of the franchise now Whereas Toriyama is very much involved In Dragon Ball now but like to Purge's point you know Dragon Ball is such a grand DL's thing in the community That.

Persia - Episode 63:
[14:52] All community Pretty much all communities like he's The.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[14:56] Godfather he is above.

Persia - Episode 63:
[14:57] All that I like that you just I like that you just, Described it like Or described him as the godfather Of like manga and anime because really he is like when you think about it like oh it started you know we can get we can get like he gave it a name as we as we go more into it you know like i've had a i've like that shit influenced me in a lot of ways um and it's and it's i when people die especially like like, like people in his position people that have done a lot for just society the world in general i'm always just i'm grateful for their example because like marty marty talks about this sometimes where he's like you know you're a creator like a creator just creates and you know this wasn't the only thing that toriyama created but it's it's fascinating to see, how a creation can come up grow legs become its own thing and touch people without you having it you can never meet them they'll never see you in person but like people's lives will be based off this thing like like people are changed by this thing or like whatever and this and this was just a thought in your head one day and you were just like you know it would be really sweet.

[16:22] Half monkey people could fly you know like and they just started like going from there like that's that's a fascinating thing so i've just been reflecting on that i'm kind of philosophical so i always i always kind of i'm i'm philosophical yeah there you go so i i just reflect on stuff like that but i'm i am eternally grateful for his example so i've just been thinking about that other than that i was just working on music very.

Leer - Episode 63:
[16:47] Mature ass episode.

Persia - Episode 63:
[16:48] Yeah it's very mature this.

Marty - Episode 63:
[16:50] Bitch heavy bro like it's i'm gonna turn it up, again he is.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[17:02] He raised us like you say you didn't have.

Persia - Episode 63:
[17:04] A dad i said that in the group chat i was like he raised up dragon ball dragon ball did which i want to come back i want to come back I want to come back to that, but I want to let Nick get his off first.

Matt - Episode 63:
[17:18] We were almost there.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[17:21] This is the one. You talk about you.

Persia - Episode 63:
[17:23] Yeah, it's good.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[17:23] This is the one.

Leer - Episode 63:
[17:26] Go ahead.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[17:26] Go ahead, Dad. Go ahead, Daddy.

Nick - Episode 63:
[17:29] No, I heard the news through Twitter, like Lear. Then, of course, you know.
But me, I'm not like Lear, where if I see something on Twitter, I don't believe it. I believe it immediately.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[17:40] Everything is true. It's true until proven wrong.

Nick - Episode 63:
[17:43] If you tweet something, I believe you 100%. So, damn, that's crazy you lived that life.
But, no, I believed it immediately. That shit was sad, for sure.
I grew up on Dragon Ball Z, of course. We all have, like we're all saying right now. It's affected us and evolved us in some type of way.
You know, transformed us, one would say, in some type of way.
You know, transformations. Super Saiyan, they're all here.
but I mean you know reading like reading what other, manga artists you know manga writers said i couldn't even read that shit is what did it for me because like me like yeah i know how i feel about it but to see how people who were close to him and inspired in the same work and like see what they had to say like that shit is different yeah uh because you had like oda kishimoto um they were the first ones to say anything, and uh so apparently he died on the first but like they announced it so i think everybody was was kind of prepared i think they knew already yeah.

Leer - Episode 63:
[18:46] I think they knew in december.

Nick - Episode 63:
[18:47] Like what like.

Leer - Episode 63:
[18:49] They they knew.

Nick - Episode 63:
[18:50] Oh that he was yeah yeah he was getting his affairs or yeah he had a brain he died from a brain he had a tumor they did.

Matt - Episode 63:
[19:00] That with mf doom.

Nick - Episode 63:
[19:01] So yeah but um yeah i mean it sucked and it didn't hit me really until i read um o'shea jackson jr yeah his tweet yeah i I was like, God damn.
Because he said everything that I think everyone wanted to say.

Leer - Episode 63:
[19:17] Wes, can you find that tweet?

Nick - Episode 63:
[19:19] It's in the group chat.

Leer - Episode 63:
[19:20] I mean, when you.

Nick - Episode 63:
[19:20] It's in the group chat.

Matt - Episode 63:
[19:21] Did you see what Denzel Curry posted?

Nick - Episode 63:
[19:23] I didn't see what. He posted a whole paragraph. I got to see. I got to see that.

Matt - Episode 63:
[19:26] Too.

Nick - Episode 63:
[19:27] Denzel Curry's huge. Yeah, that same day, my girl came over, and I made her watch Broly, the Legendary Super Saiyan.

Leer - Episode 63:
[19:33] Made her.

Nick - Episode 63:
[19:34] I made her watch what? I made her watch Broly, the Legendary Super Saiyan.
The original one. The original one. And we watched the Japanese. We watched it subbed.

Leer - Episode 63:
[19:42] So when Vegeta was getting bitched out by Piccolo, it was way funnier.

Nick - Episode 63:
[19:46] It was great. It was great. It was great. It was 100%. I love that movie.
I love that movie for many facts.
In my opinion, Broly is better.
In my opinion, he's better.

Persia - Episode 63:
[19:57] Of course.

Nick - Episode 63:
[19:57] Because he's just unhinged. He's unhinged. He doesn't have...
I like a villain that's no nonsense.

Persia - Episode 63:
[20:02] He's literally Roy Gray. He doesn't have...

Nick - Episode 63:
[20:04] Yeah, he doesn't have humanization.

Leer - Episode 63:
[20:06] He was literally mad because a kid was crying next to him.

Nick - Episode 63:
[20:10] And I love that. And it's so petty. And I'm a petty person sometimes.
So, yeah, petty that shit up.

Leer - Episode 63:
[20:14] That beef is forever.

Nick - Episode 63:
[20:14] Get that shit, King.

Leer - Episode 63:
[20:15] You and your kids.

Nick - Episode 63:
[20:16] And, like, they needed to overload him with power to kill him.
And it was like, because they couldn't beat him in strength.
So they're like, let's just supercharge this bitch.
So it was like, how could you really beat that man? Because you can't. Because you can't.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[20:28] I saw the abridged version of that. I've not seen them all, but the abridged version is my favorite of Vegeta.

Nick - Episode 63:
[20:34] Yeah.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[20:34] You know, because they all give him his powers or whatever. and so goku.

Nick - Episode 63:
[20:37] In the.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[20:37] Abridged version is like vegeta i know you don't want he's a hun take it, it's already yours i can kill this nigga.

Nick - Episode 63:
[20:47] But you know i mean i mean and i spent a lot of times with a lot of my best friends playing the dragon ball z games like me and my boy devere would julia be in the house and peace rest in peace to devere pretty sure but uh put me on yeah i mean We'd be in the house, and he's like, bro, we're playing with his brother, Stefan.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[21:06] Yeah.

Nick - Episode 63:
[21:06] And Stefan started winning. Devereux cheese neck him.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[21:10] Devere was so petty.

Nick - Episode 63:
[21:11] Oh, yeah. So petty. Yeah, and he always used Kid Buu, and he would do an unstoppable combo that he knew.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[21:18] And you would hit.

Nick - Episode 63:
[21:18] And then you would. Yes.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[21:20] Because he used to do it on me.

Nick - Episode 63:
[21:21] And you'd turn into the ball.

Leer - Episode 63:
[21:21] Oh, my God.

Nick - Episode 63:
[21:23] Yes.

Leer - Episode 63:
[21:23] I'm like, bro.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[21:25] Jesus. Devere was so annoying, because he'll taunt you while you're playing the game.

Nick - Episode 63:
[21:31] He'll taunt you in real life.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[21:32] He'll taunt you in real life, but then while you're playing Dragon Ball Z, he'll do the Kid Buu rant. Yes, bro. Oh, you used to get so mad.

Nick - Episode 63:
[21:39] I never got heated because this is what it is but his brother i will get so brother would get so and then he just cheese not coming shut the fuck shut up she'll be funny as fuck so like that was it like that's how we spent our days in this house till his mom got home because i wasn't allowed there why.

Leer - Episode 63:
[21:52] Why why say bad influence no no you know why you know.

Nick - Episode 63:
[21:57] I wasn't allowed there so we we will play the game we will play the game until she pulled up and then i rushed out the house you gotta run out the window yeah i have before i'm like that side bitch oh no i was a side bitch to the homies we lived in a poor as one one floor every house oh yeah you're right balcony we have those we were on the balcony uh but yeah i mean for me yeah so but i spent the weekend um we watched that watched that and then i just chilled worked yeah all.

Leer - Episode 63:
[22:31] Right no that's the same man go Go ahead. Since Nick was talking about his favorite movie, I kind of want to have everybody go around to their favorite Dragon Ball movie.
Or we can do moment. Favorite Dragon Ball moment.

Nick - Episode 63:
[22:42] I mean, we already started with the movie. You might as well just...
I already started and said mine.

Leer - Episode 63:
[22:46] Mine would be... Damn. I really like that cooler. The first cooler.
Sharing Favorite Dragon Ball Moments

Nick - Episode 63:
[22:51] Oof.

Leer - Episode 63:
[22:51] But I also like the... We talked about this. It's since y'all brought up Fuse and Reborn.

Nick - Episode 63:
[22:57] Oh.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[22:57] Yeah.

Nick - Episode 63:
[22:58] One of the dopest moments is in that movie.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[23:01] That kill scene.

Nick - Episode 63:
[23:02] Oh. Oh, that was the Stardust Breaker?

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[23:04] Yeah.

Nick - Episode 63:
[23:05] So beautiful. But when Janemba hits him with an attack, and then they separate, and then fucking rush him?

Leer - Episode 63:
[23:09] Yeah.

Nick - Episode 63:
[23:09] Woo!

Leer - Episode 63:
[23:10] That shit is fire. And I got one more I want to mention. It's the...
The World's Strongest. Okay. Isn't that the first one? No.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[23:19] Second or third.

Leer - Episode 63:
[23:20] Because the first one is Dead Zone.

Nick - Episode 63:
[23:22] No, I thought World's Strongest was the first one.

Leer - Episode 63:
[23:24] No, Dead Zone was before that one. Dead Zone is like during, it's supposed to be during the time that Radix was around.

Nick - Episode 63:
[23:30] That's with Garlic Jr.

Leer - Episode 63:
[23:31] Yeah, it's supposed to be the time with Radix.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[23:32] It's the prequel to Dragon Ball Z, essentially.

Leer - Episode 63:
[23:34] Dead Zone?

Nick - Episode 63:
[23:34] Yeah, because Piccolo helped him on that one.

Leer - Episode 63:
[23:36] No, but they were fighting. They were still fighting.

Nick - Episode 63:
[23:38] I got to look this up again.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[23:39] They hated each other.

Leer - Episode 63:
[23:40] Don't believe me.

Nick - Episode 63:
[23:41] My father don't like a lot of people.

Matt - Episode 63:
[23:43] Yeah yeah.

Leer - Episode 63:
[23:44] It was kind of leave my dad damn.

Nick - Episode 63:
[23:45] I should have brought that up yeah go ahead man oh we got that right there from my dad yeah well i got one sign says dad okay.

Matt - Episode 63:
[23:51] Oh damn mateo um sorry it's.

Nick - Episode 63:
[23:56] A sexy name mateo it's.

Matt - Episode 63:
[23:57] Matthew and spanish i had a spanish class that was my name um so when it comes to my wait what'd you say guido why would you do that i was able to make mine Zorro one time.

Marty - Episode 63:
[24:11] Jersey Shore was fine.

Matt - Episode 63:
[24:18] What's your favorite movie I definitely remember watching all the classic ones, but only once as a kid when I was at my cousin's house who loved Dragon Ball and so I can't remember any of the movies so the only one I could say because I watched it recently at least in the last few years was the new Broly movie it is a good one because i'm somebody i'm always talking about production yeah i'm always talking about production and everything's hitting they really use the barrier you know they said the music um in that movie when it's like goku goku and gochita and then they're singing that like chanting that voice it was inspired by when they showed those moments the like the jiren uh goku fight in like a stadium or at least like on a projector in public and people would be chanting those chants so that's what the music was inspired by and, Wes needs to say something.

Leer - Episode 63:
[25:14] Oh, yeah. My bad, Wes.

Nick - Episode 63:
[25:15] So in that, when they have, like, the Gogeta or the Goku and Vegeta chants and stuff like that, there's also when Broly first goes to fight Goku, you can hear his old voice from the old movie yelling Kakarot.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[25:29] Oh.

Leer - Episode 63:
[25:30] I didn't know that.

Matt - Episode 63:
[25:30] I want to watch the movie. Not yet.

Nick - Episode 63:
[25:32] I own it digitally.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[25:34] Kakarot.

Matt - Episode 63:
[25:35] Oh, okay. I own it digitally. And then one of the moments, and I can't confirm this, but I'm 99% sure.

Leer - Episode 63:
[25:42] Go ahead.

Matt - Episode 63:
[25:43] When they like break the universe when it's gogeta and broly and they're going in that other dimension that is the same exact engine as fighter z like the same animation the same frame rate the same like 3d cgi and it like blows my mind because that's when i was playing fighter z at that time when i first watched that and then i even uh there's this one time i was watching with my boy and there was this girl that i was into and i invited her over and we just watched some uh, of that. She never came over again.

Marty - Episode 63:
[26:13] It was really cool. It was cool.

Matt - Episode 63:
[26:16] It was just cool for me to be like, I don't give a shit if I'm watching this with a girl.

Leer - Episode 63:
[26:22] Did you swamp her out?

Matt - Episode 63:
[26:27] You know my bad.

Persia - Episode 63:
[26:30] Hey can someone move the camera away from jaleer yeah crazy kick this nigga off hey go sit in the chair.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[26:36] Right kick this nigga back in the bus rosa all right whoa whoa yo don't do that on.

Persia - Episode 63:
[26:43] Three one three day.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[26:44] Oh shit damn i've met her, not to her face my nigga dale she like hey.

Leer - Episode 63:
[26:54] Your nigga had a car.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[26:55] Back on the bus bitch don't put don't film this please remove this we.

Nick - Episode 63:
[27:00] Don't edit this stuff out we don't edit this shit well.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[27:05] Yeah that's a.

Nick - Episode 63:
[27:06] Clip nope nope that's a clip marty that's a clip.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[27:10] Uncle used to work at the f that is probably a strike so yeah.

Nick - Episode 63:
[27:15] You gotta watch a horrible black.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[27:19] One girl podcast.

Nick - Episode 63:
[27:20] No, he's gotta watch a movie that I suggest.

Matt - Episode 63:
[27:23] Where's this going?

Persia - Episode 63:
[27:24] You gotta watch a horrible fucking black movie. You gotta watch the Till movie.

Leer - Episode 63:
[27:30] Yo, god damn.

Marty - Episode 63:
[27:31] Bro, that's terrible.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[27:32] So my uncle used to work at the Riverfront Towers where she lived at.

Marty - Episode 63:
[27:36] The Slaves?

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[27:37] Yo! Okay, does Marty not get a strike for that?

Marty - Episode 63:
[27:41] What?

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[27:42] I was asking where this dog, uh there is the front towers in downtown detroit off west just for sin and she lived there that's where they were uh having her live so she passed yeah and i've met her a couple times just because my uncle i was like a child bro that's so yeah history she was cool so yeah uh.

Marty - Episode 63:
[28:00] Tree of might bro trip tree of might tree of might turles turles.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[28:05] What is turles is that he's goku can someone explain.

Leer - Episode 63:
[28:08] No you're not i don't know.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[28:09] Or just a nigga that just i don't he's just a.

Leer - Episode 63:
[28:11] Nigga of that look like him. He's dope-a-ganger. And he's blacker, too.

Marty - Episode 63:
[28:15] He was a little bit darker.

Nick - Episode 63:
[28:17] He was of a darker skin tone.

Leer - Episode 63:
[28:20] Okay.

Nick - Episode 63:
[28:21] Like Mike is of me.

Leer - Episode 63:
[28:24] Persia is of you.

Nick - Episode 63:
[28:25] Persia is of me we have matching tattoos mine is a little bit brighter because his.

Marty - Episode 63:
[28:30] Head tone.

Nick - Episode 63:
[28:30] Is a little bit darker than mine and they're both matching dragon ball i'm.

Leer - Episode 63:
[28:34] Thankful for how you explained anatomy they are so.

Nick - Episode 63:
[28:37] But yes that's.

Marty - Episode 63:
[28:39] Not the lack of melanin that he has.

Leer - Episode 63:
[28:41] Maloney tree of might.

Marty - Episode 63:
[28:42] That's the um i think i don't know what yeah i don't know if we know the order that's the kind of like with dvz though it doesn't really matter yeah it matter because it's a fly yeah.

Matt - Episode 63:
[28:56] It was one that wasn't right all of them not canon except oh i did not know except for the super movie.

Marty - Episode 63:
[29:04] That was confusing yeah i think the thing.

Nick - Episode 63:
[29:08] About trunks ovas are canon yeah that was an ova yeah so.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[29:12] Trunks is canon.

Marty - Episode 63:
[29:13] Oh i thought they said the second girl that was mine that would be like Like, I don't want to mention number two is the one with Gohan. I thought they said that in the future and shit.

Leer - Episode 63:
[29:21] The second Garlic Jr. one was canon.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[29:24] So that's why Dead Zone. Yeah, it was one where Goku had his own arc.

Nick - Episode 63:
[29:29] Yeah, I remember that.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[29:30] So the first, there's one movie where it's essentially a prequel to Dragon Ball.

Leer - Episode 63:
[29:35] It's not that good.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[29:36] No one likes it.

Nick - Episode 63:
[29:37] It's filler.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[29:37] It's filler.

Leer - Episode 63:
[29:38] Yeah, it's filler.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[29:38] So Dead Zone is a movie prior to the events of Dragon Ball Z.
It came out, I think, as a movie. But it's essentially the prequel to Dragon Ball Z.
uh garlic jr comes fuck shit up fuck hami up i.

Nick - Episode 63:
[29:52] Only watched that once.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[29:52] Okay yeah it's it's essentially the prequel to dragon ball i just.

Nick - Episode 63:
[29:55] Remember they had to throw his ass in the zone.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[29:57] Zone and then like they.

Nick - Episode 63:
[29:58] They did his ass like that.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[29:59] That's the only movie i think that's the only movie that is canon no.

Leer - Episode 63:
[30:03] No the first one isn't canon because they already knew who gohan was in the beginning of dragon ball they didn't know gohan.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[30:10] But like it's confusing because it's dead zone come because the dead zone yeah because the dead zone's actually uh art it's It's weird.

Leer - Episode 63:
[30:17] But anyways.

Nick - Episode 63:
[30:18] Yeah. So you're running with those?

Marty - Episode 63:
[30:21] Yeah. Tree of Might. No, Future Trunks. We know Gohan and shit like that.

Leer - Episode 63:
[30:27] History of Trunks.

Marty - Episode 63:
[30:28] History of Trunks.

Nick - Episode 63:
[30:28] Gohan.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[30:30] Gohan is what Gohan should be doing right now. Well, he kind of is. He's trying.

Matt - Episode 63:
[30:34] My foggy memory of Dragon Ball.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[30:37] I know.

Leer - Episode 63:
[30:38] He's soft.

Matt - Episode 63:
[30:38] He hasn't gone through.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[30:40] This is why Piccolo did what he did. That's why his daughter got kidnapped.
Bitch ass. Because he feels on bitch shit.

Leer - Episode 63:
[30:46] God damn.

Marty - Episode 63:
[30:46] What about you, brother?

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[30:48] So, Lord Slug.
Absolutely fucking not. That movie is so boring.

Leer - Episode 63:
[30:54] With the false Super Saiyan and the Mechians.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[30:57] Oh, it's so annoying. And then the Lord Slug people.

Nick - Episode 63:
[31:01] Yeah, the whistle, the Herms Slug Mechian. Because his ears were super sensitive.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[31:06] You don't know that?

Leer - Episode 63:
[31:07] Oh yeah, just like the bass. Now you have to watch it.

Matt - Episode 63:
[31:12] That's what we should make Wes do.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[31:13] Watch all the Dragon Ball movies. Because he's the youngest in the entire...

Nick - Episode 63:
[31:17] It's because he's white.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[31:19] I was trying.

Matt - Episode 63:
[31:20] To say with my.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[31:21] Childhood memory with my foggy.

Matt - Episode 63:
[31:23] Childhood memory about the dragon ball movies i do remember trunks was by far my favorite character.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[31:28] I always love trunks i know i love everyone's favorite trunks.

Persia - Episode 63:
[31:32] Came because trunks came in with a whole different kind of swag.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[31:41] Nick has nick.

Persia - Episode 63:
[31:43] Has i think i think on the pod he talked about a specific kind of character before where they're op but it was it was your fate it was your favorite trope
Childhood Memories and Dragon Ball Movies

[31:53] oh yeah it was the the character that's op but acts like very humble about it.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[31:59] Yeah like.

Persia - Episode 63:
[31:59] They're just like they just.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[32:00] Not whipping his dick out yeah.

Persia - Episode 63:
[32:02] Like like exactly because like vegeta was super arrogant goku was super fucking stupid he is from a time where they don't just came up and he was.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[32:10] Just like.

Persia - Episode 63:
[32:10] What up nigga he killed him he's the only one you know what time it is that's the best trope so.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[32:14] Basically basically.

Nick - Episode 63:
[32:16] Trunks is toji.

Leer - Episode 63:
[32:17] Trunks is the blueprint for toji anyway so it could be antonio what's your favorite movie so.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[32:23] My favorite so honorable mention is history of trunks history of trunks is is, immaculate it is beautiful i don't i don't want to say it's my favorite only because it's the ova and it's canon so technically it's out of the rules i.

Leer - Episode 63:
[32:39] Think it's like a special.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[32:40] It's a special but it's it's so well done it's no it's really good him going super saiyan when gohan dies gohan.

Leer - Episode 63:
[32:48] Was fighting for like 11 years.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[32:49] Yeah like for his fucking life for his fucking life and and trying to get him to go super saiyan this nigga would not go super saiyan no he would not he would not go super saiyan they're.

Leer - Episode 63:
[32:59] Fighting 17 uh.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[33:00] 17 18 and this nigga would not go super saiyan how many times yeah he just would not go super saiyan so seeing trunks is that part in particular Trunks going Super Saiyan while having What being said about Gohan is really heartbreaking Um, Dead Zone is probably my favorite movie because it is like a prequel to it so it's nice to see Piccolo and Goku not get along, yeah that was cool Gohan just being a child he gets like drunk and starts doing dumb shit like it's just nice seeing Gohan be a child we forget that he was essentially a child warrior he was on.

Leer - Episode 63:
[33:38] Namek at 8.

Nick - Episode 63:
[33:38] They had Icarus in that movie.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[33:41] I miss Icarus just having Gohan be a child and just like be the victim for once and not have to worry about saving the fucking world was kind of nice and i did like garlic jr he was just like a villain for this i don't know i just maybe it's nostalgia but i do enjoy get.

Leer - Episode 63:
[33:58] A mixed up with emperor pre-life when i was.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[34:01] Like who is garlic garlic.

Nick - Episode 63:
[34:04] He's only in two.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[34:05] I know imagine.

Nick - Episode 63:
[34:06] Emperor pilaf but with like with uh he got those old people get where they get little splotchy spots.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[34:14] Liver marks yeah that's.

Nick - Episode 63:
[34:16] So so so garlic jr is basically the emperor pilaf with liver spots.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[34:23] So the real the real story is man out of context not doing anything so the real story is his father was essentially supposed to be guardian over commie but commie won so garlic got mad and been trying to kill commie ever since that's the real story that's why his name is garlic jr because Because Garlic Sr.
was supposed to be Kami, but lost.
Okay. I remember now. So, Dead Zone.
And honestly, I like Superhero. I really enjoy, because I like, Gohan is me.
I relate a lot to Gohan, just being by the book person and always being forced to do something you don't want to do.

Leer - Episode 63:
[35:03] He was fighting with glasses on.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[35:04] Yeah, I fight with glasses on.

Leer - Episode 63:
[35:06] That man is about it.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[35:07] I fight with my glasses on. I'm black. don't don't let the gayness fool you i fight um i've seen.

Nick - Episode 63:
[35:15] Gay people who said i could fight.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[35:16] Yeah yeah we swing like it'd be like you better be able to fight but um you better.

Leer - Episode 63:
[35:22] Be able to yeah.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[35:23] Have you uh t.s madison she's a trans uh icon and she was saying how people excuse me.

Leer - Episode 63:
[35:29] Can you say her name one more time.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[35:30] T.s madison okay and she was saying how she um i didn't people come at her a little bit or whatever especially the dragon because because she's part of the Drag Race franchise right now. She's like, don't come for me. I fight.
But anyway, so I really like Superhero. I love Gohan. I love Gohan so much.

Nick - Episode 63:
[35:48] What?

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[35:50] What's happening with this?

Leer - Episode 63:
[35:51] What's going on?

Persia - Episode 63:
[35:52] I think you just say Superhero. You talking about the one that just came out?

Leer - Episode 63:
[35:54] Yeah, he said that the first time.

Nick - Episode 63:
[35:56] I thought he looked at me.

Matt - Episode 63:
[35:57] Somebody get this nigga off here.

Persia - Episode 63:
[35:58] Bro.

Matt - Episode 63:
[35:58] The reaction you two just had.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[36:00] What's happening? What is this? What's going on?

Matt - Episode 63:
[36:01] He said Superhero before, and me and Marty had that.

Leer - Episode 63:
[36:03] Wes, we don't mean to trash your birthday.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[36:05] Fuck all four of y'all. first of all.

Nick - Episode 63:
[36:09] There's four of us in it.

Persia - Episode 63:
[36:12] Let's just let this... Let's let our brother get this out.

Matt - Episode 63:
[36:17] I actually didn't.

Persia - Episode 63:
[36:21] There's no mistakes today. Today.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[36:23] I will fight.

Persia - Episode 63:
[36:24] Don't fight.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[36:25] I fight.

Leer - Episode 63:
[36:26] We are on your side.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[36:27] I fight.

Nick - Episode 63:
[36:28] You are on his side.

Marty - Episode 63:
[36:29] Yeah, there we go. No, we're not.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[36:31] No one else is on my side. I appreciate you.

Matt - Episode 63:
[36:33] No, no, I will say I did not hate it. I didn't hate it.

Marty - Episode 63:
[36:36] I didn't hate it.

Matt - Episode 63:
[36:37] I did not at all.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[36:39] We got the great debate part two.

Leer - Episode 63:
[36:40] Bro, you don't got a lot.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[36:44] Anyways, I do enjoy Yes, we are I guess we're going to have it We can do it, As long as we are here I'm going to say I'll fight I explain why Motherfuckers I hate the bitch asses What the fuck?
Not you, Lear He's literally singling us out and you're the only one saying.

Matt - Episode 63:
[37:11] What the fuck?

Nick - Episode 63:
[37:12] He's the only one I'm saying. He's the only one not in it.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[37:16] He's so hot.
Paranoid as hell.

Leer - Episode 63:
[37:20] I am paranoid as hell. Did y'all lock the cat up?

Nick - Episode 63:
[37:23] It's me.

Leer - Episode 63:
[37:25] Anyway, just go on.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[37:27] Again, it's Gohan.
It's Gohan. Gohan is us. The story of Dragon Ball Z has been told through Gohan's point of view, essentially. eventually and to finally see get five and he hasn't had his moment and it didn't have it in super didn't he had.

Marty - Episode 63:
[37:44] His moment we got knocked.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[37:46] Out was not in super no he didn't sell games how long ago was that how long ago was that he was fly but like that was the last time that's.

Marty - Episode 63:
[37:55] When dbz was i.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[37:56] Know but yeah.

Matt - Episode 63:
[37:57] I was about to say that's like he had his moment.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[37:58] But no he got his And he got his ass wrecked No I said moment.

Marty - Episode 63:
[38:03] A moment is No At the end of Dragon Ball Z Gohan was probably Like the strongest
Gohan's Strength and Character Development

[38:08] character bro Until when.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[38:09] Gohan is the strongest person In general Ultimate.

Marty - Episode 63:
[38:13] Gohan Was a dog.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[38:14] Bro He is the strongest person In general But just He has different priorities Okay I understand When I get it But it's just It breaks But like I said Gohan is me I was raised To see shit Through Gohan's point of view And I understand You say, well, it's like having a strict parent, books, books, books, when you know your potential is bigger than that.
And also, but at the same time, seeing Gohan happy.
You know, he gets his – he's not his father. He's not Vegeta.

Nick - Episode 63:
[38:43] He kind of is.
How much does he pay attention to Pam?

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[38:47] He's closer to Vegeta than he is Goku.

Nick - Episode 63:
[38:49] How much does he pay attention to Pam?

Leer - Episode 63:
[38:50] He pays attention to Pam.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[38:51] I know. She got kidnapped.

Nick - Episode 63:
[38:51] He did not know she got kidnapped.

Leer - Episode 63:
[38:53] So you fuck up one time, okay?

Nick - Episode 63:
[38:55] It runs in the family.

Matt - Episode 63:
[38:58] They're just bad fathers.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[38:59] He didn't have an insane DNA.

Matt - Episode 63:
[39:01] Other than Piccolo.

Nick - Episode 63:
[39:02] Piccolo is his example. And guess who's watching Pam?

Matt - Episode 63:
[39:04] All right.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[39:05] Exactly.

Leer - Episode 63:
[39:06] He's in the making.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[39:07] Goku's not even watching his own granddaughter.

Nick - Episode 63:
[39:09] Yeah.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[39:10] It's granddaddy, uncle Piccolo.

Nick - Episode 63:
[39:13] So it's grandpa, uncle grandpa.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[39:14] Uncle grandpa uncle grandpa oh my god but yeah so just i ain't watching my son i'm.

Marty - Episode 63:
[39:22] Watching my fucking granddaughter is you crazy you.

Nick - Episode 63:
[39:24] Say you ain't watching your son.

Marty - Episode 63:
[39:25] I ain't watching my son why would i watch my granddaughter got you.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[39:28] You know sometimes sometimes you want to do better nope.

Marty - Episode 63:
[39:31] I just want to be strong.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[39:33] Yeah don't always want to be strong you already got stronger if he wants.

Leer - Episode 63:
[39:37] To be strong that's it yeah so.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[39:39] Anyway so i can finish my fucking so again seeing go so so i'm happy gohan got his happy but at the same time bitch you're the strongest person in the world do something so this like wow there's mixed reviews on beats gohan i think i love the white hair i love the craziness the special beam cannon i'm sorry i love it that.

Leer - Episode 63:
[39:57] Special beam cannon was dope.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[39:58] I like the special beam cannon was fucking dope that's how you say that it's special b cannon in japanese that's.

Nick - Episode 63:
[40:04] Yeah no for sure the the hairstyle though.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[40:07] It could be bad that's.

Matt - Episode 63:
[40:08] Where Why do you make it so big? That's where it threw me out.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[40:13] It's the CGI, I think.

Nick - Episode 63:
[40:15] I don't think it's going to be that big. No, it's that big in the manga.
In the manga, it's that big.

Leer - Episode 63:
[40:19] Really?

Matt - Episode 63:
[40:20] It literally looks just like a fan art thing that would have been made back in 05.

Nick - Episode 63:
[40:27] So Super Saiyan 4.

Leer - Episode 63:
[40:28] Goku. You ever seen Super Saiyan 5?

Nick - Episode 63:
[40:30] Sorry, Super Saiyan 5.

Matt - Episode 63:
[40:30] The red eyes, white hair.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[40:33] Wes, hook a bitch up.

Nick - Episode 63:
[40:35] Go ahead.

Leer - Episode 63:
[40:36] All right, so I, this past weekend, was watching...
was watching the android incel saga and when vegeta went super vegeta his hair was just as long as gohan yes.

Matt - Episode 63:
[40:51] Thank you that long i gotta.

Leer - Episode 63:
[40:53] See it yeah but it.

Nick - Episode 63:
[40:55] Didn't stay that i don't.

Leer - Episode 63:
[40:56] I don't know they were very inconsistent yeah beast.

Nick - Episode 63:
[40:59] Mode is staying that way.

Leer - Episode 63:
[41:03] But yeah so.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[41:04] It's just thank Thank you, Wes. I appreciate you.

Leer - Episode 63:
[41:07] No, them animations.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[41:08] Sometimes. And I just enjoyed the story of just like also Piccolo.
Piccolo's story in that movie.
You know, he's just the best character of Dragon Ball.
Him and Vegeta are the best characters in Dragon Ball.

Nick - Episode 63:
[41:21] Toriyama's favorite character is Piccolo.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[41:23] Is it?

Matt - Episode 63:
[41:24] You can tell.

Nick - Episode 63:
[41:25] He's my favorite character.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[41:27] You can tell. I hate Orange Piccolo. I hate the name Orange Piccolo.
But I'm I'm just happy Piccolo got his power up.

Nick - Episode 63:
[41:35] They should just call him Steve Jobs Piccolo.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[41:38] That's why I said it should be Dragon Piccolo.

Nick - Episode 63:
[41:39] Steve Jobs Piccolo?

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[41:41] What does that mean?

Nick - Episode 63:
[41:42] He had so much carrot juice, he started turning orange.

Leer - Episode 63:
[41:44] You know what, bro? That's your cousin. Did you turn orange? You related to him.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[41:50] Oh, shit. I thought that on the episode of Magic School Bus. But yeah, that's why.

Persia - Episode 63:
[41:55] What about you, Persia? Me and you, let's get through this fast because we're already at 40.

Nick - Episode 63:
[42:00] Jesus.

Matt - Episode 63:
[42:01] I love that.

Marty - Episode 63:
[42:01] Told you.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[42:01] Um what's all of us on.

Persia - Episode 63:
[42:03] Bro i like i like both of the broly movies but i i watch whoa.

Leer - Episode 63:
[42:08] Whoa whoa which broly movies he said both.

Nick - Episode 63:
[42:10] Oh yeah because.

Leer - Episode 63:
[42:11] There's no there's broly second and bio.

Persia - Episode 63:
[42:17] I'm talking about the fuck both of the intro introductory broly movies okay but i like well father son command i like it's really dope father and sons i like the first one like the original one because i

[42:29] liked how aggressive and rage it would that shit was just nonsense yeah he was he was very like like bro that nigga was worse than a bully he was like just grabbing throwing him into the mountain and shit like there was really no reason why they should have won that fight they all should have died oh they all should have died yeah they it should have been over on that but then i liked the uh like i feel like there wasn't much like it was it was pretty much all like straight to the point and then just hardcore the whole fucking way until they figured out how to beat him. But...
And they wasn't sure if that was going to be the man. But that nigga was, like, purely roid rage.
Like, this nigga's just getting mad thinking about this nigga.
Like, this nigga's off in the woods somewhere.
And then he just sees something. He's like, John Gerard! Like, this nigga Goku is off minding his business, doing push-ups.

Leer - Episode 63:
[43:21] On-site is a definition of Broly.

Persia - Episode 63:
[43:23] Yeah, but.

Nick - Episode 63:
[43:24] That Broly was a definition of I used to be somebody.

Leer - Episode 63:
[43:27] I used to be somebody.

Persia - Episode 63:
[43:28] He didn't even use to be somebody.

Nick - Episode 63:
[43:30] He just seemed the man who was picked above him.

Persia - Episode 63:
[43:32] He didn't even used to be somebody.

Nick - Episode 63:
[43:33] No, he just got that energy.

Persia - Episode 63:
[43:35] He was born autistic, and then he just got mad at the nigga he was next to. Bro, he liked trains.
How do you even remember that? How do you even remember that?
You were a baby. You're just mad that this nigga was crying next to you?

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[43:44] Let's talk about the memory.

Persia - Episode 63:
[43:45] He was fun.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[43:46] The memory retention of infants of Sans.

Persia - Episode 63:
[43:49] Yeah.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[43:49] And how do you remember that shit?

Persia - Episode 63:
[43:50] Yeah.

Nick - Episode 63:
[43:50] I mean, their hair don't grow, and they keep the memory.

Persia - Episode 63:
[43:53] But the other one- Hey.

Leer - Episode 63:
[43:54] Bro, you hold a- Sans, hold a grudge.

Persia - Episode 63:
[43:56] With the other Broly, I did like the production quality of it was dope.
but and i liked i liked one he was beating the shit out of them niggas like he was one he was fucking them up but two bro the freezer scene is what makes that like it was great yeah because that freezer scene was fucking hilarious where he killed his dad and he was like he was like oh my god bro that shit was fucking hilarious shit starter and then that shit backfired immediately yeah immediately right hey but i did like his redemption and i liked how goku went back at the end and was just like yo in typical fucking stupid ass goku fashion trying to make a stand again. Hey! You can get stronger.

Nick - Episode 63:
[44:50] Let him live.

Persia - Episode 63:
[44:50] Let's be friends so we can fight.

Leer - Episode 63:
[44:52] You know who you should train with?

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[44:54] That's going to come back to bite him in the ass.

Persia - Episode 63:
[44:55] But yeah, that was...

Nick - Episode 63:
[44:57] They're training right now.

Persia - Episode 63:
[44:58] That was me.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[44:59] I don't trust him.

Persia - Episode 63:
[44:59] Go with yours.

Nick - Episode 63:
[45:00] Mine, of course, the first one was Broly. Runner Up would also be the other Broly movie tied with... Broly second coming.
Tied with, what is it, The Last Dragon? What's the other one?

Leer - Episode 63:
[45:08] Wrath of the Dragon.

Nick - Episode 63:
[45:09] Wrath of the Dragon.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[45:10] That was a good one.

Nick - Episode 63:
[45:10] Tied with that one because I love Tapion.

Leer - Episode 63:
[45:12] Bro, that ending...

Nick - Episode 63:
[45:12] Tapion's design and everything, My bad. No, you're good.

Leer - Episode 63:
[45:17] Highlighted Super Saiyan 3 and did the dragon fist.

Nick - Episode 63:
[45:20] Super Saiyan 3 to me is the most underrated transformation. I agree.
Because it's just so gorgeous and it's just like, god damn that hair.
That's why they could have just.

Leer - Episode 63:
[45:27] That motherfucker folded.

Matt - Episode 63:
[45:28] I love that one so much because anytime I would see it, just like in my childhood, just online, internet, wherever.
I always thought it was fake because it looked so cool and I wouldn't see it anywhere else. It wouldn't talk about it.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[45:41] I want to talk shit about y'all dick riding.
Yeah, I'm going to talk like a nigga. Dick riding Super Saiyan 3.
But y'all got a problem with Beast Gohan?

Nick - Episode 63:
[45:50] Yeah.

Leer - Episode 63:
[45:51] Yo, Super Saiyan 3.

Persia - Episode 63:
[45:53] Beast Gohan.

Nick - Episode 63:
[45:54] Beast Gohan. It wasn't the same. No, it ain't the same.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[46:01] I hate all of this.

Leer - Episode 63:
[46:02] I want to say my favorite.

Nick - Episode 63:
[46:04] Hold on one second hold on super saiyan 3 okay hold on that changed the game because we weren't introduced to transformations like that super saiyan 2 was just we've had it twice no hold on time out because super

[46:16] saiyan 2 was just a little bit sharper and then not as many bangs and then super saiyan 3 was like the hair was yeah yeah my bad i apologize i apologize the electricity my bad my bad but super saiyan 3 we're like how long can it get they're like like bitch this song and then they said but guess how his eyebrows went to it no eyebrows we got rid of the eyebrows brought the hair down my mans look angrier angrier and you know why because he is because the more super saiyan you go the more unpure of heart you get it makes sense but why are we mad at beats gohan because that shit just like you first of all you have all these other ones and you have super saiyan 4 there for inspiration too because we can use it if we want to or whatever and all they did was go with super saiyan 2 and they're like extend it and then change the color get rid get rid of it but don't go to white don't go to white yet because that's ultra instinct we got to stay in silver but then just elongate that bitch just elongate that bitch and we're good and i'm like ah man come on come on give me something else make that shit turn into a bowl cut i don't give a fuck do something different it didn't feel like.

Matt - Episode 63:
[47:23] They put much effort into.

Nick - Episode 63:
[47:24] It yeah and it didn't feel original super saiyan 3 was different original original and i'm.

Persia - Episode 63:
[47:29] Gonna save this for another episode but that is what you just described is the problem that i had with a lot of dragon ball shit anyway yes go ahead with.

Nick - Episode 63:
[47:37] It all right so my thing on super.

Leer - Episode 63:
[47:39] Zanthro when i was a kid i thought it was the dopest thing in the world as i got older they fucking wasted the fuck out of it.

Nick - Episode 63:
[47:45] Yeah they only used it they.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[47:47] Only wasted the only people who really use it is um go.

Nick - Episode 63:
[47:50] Tank buddy when.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[47:51] They can actually not be adhd and finish a fucking Fucking dance.

Leer - Episode 63:
[47:55] So my favorite movie, fucking...
Recently, it was Fusion Reborn.
Growing up, Broly was my second favorite, and my first favorite was Wrath of the Dragon because Future Trunks was always my favorite, and it kind of bridged the gap of how you found out he got his sword.
Favorite Dragon Ball Movies and Character Lore

[48:20] Tate Dion gave him his sword.

Nick - Episode 63:
[48:21] Yeah, I forgot about that. They kind of made... But it's not canon?

Leer - Episode 63:
[48:26] It's not canon, but...

Nick - Episode 63:
[48:27] But he gave it a lore to it, and I did like that.

Leer - Episode 63:
[48:29] Because you never knew why he had a fucking sword.

Nick - Episode 63:
[48:31] Yeah he's the only one like nobody ever used a sword and all of a sudden trunks is out here main reason he's my favorite character because he.

Matt - Episode 63:
[48:39] Had a sword i was like and he frees up i was like all right all.

Nick - Episode 63:
[48:43] Right yeah you.

Marty - Episode 63:
[48:44] Guys can get back to you and then go and go you're part of this too wesley it's your pocket goku walking with a finger yeah.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[48:50] I mean i guess we could get into that part.

Nick - Episode 63:
[48:52] You said goku blocking with a finger that's right there i.

Matt - Episode 63:
[48:55] Want to make one just one quick question real quick.

Nick - Episode 63:
[48:57] Yeah for.

Matt - Episode 63:
[48:58] Your guy for everybody that like loves the broly movie so much do you and then it seems like it's in a popular opinion that you like the first one more because the broly is more menacing.

Nick - Episode 63:
[49:07] Yeah now.

Leer - Episode 63:
[49:11] I love the look and attitude of the old broly but the new broly gave him more depth as a character yeah.

Nick - Episode 63:
[49:19] Now that's.

Matt - Episode 63:
[49:20] Kind of where i'm going into.

Nick - Episode 63:
[49:21] This question is now.

Matt - Episode 63:
[49:22] To spoiler at the end of the first broly movie does he die.

Nick - Episode 63:
[49:27] No technically no because there's a broly second coming no he doesn't he doesn't die okay they they try to blow him up by overloading him with power oh okay but then he comes back so they can't they can't find a way to beat him by pure strength and they seem like he has to let out the energy because he gets too much because he can't stop yeah he can't stop The body can only sustain so much.
So he releases it himself.
So Goku notices that. So Trunks, Gohan, Piccolo, and Vegeta all give him their energy, and he punches him in the stomach and transfers all that into him, and then he blows up.
But then later on for Broly's second coming, they find him in space, and then they do a father-son-son command may wave, his dumb ass.

Leer - Episode 63:
[50:14] Wait, you said they found him in space? No, he comes to Earth.

Nick - Episode 63:
[50:17] Oh, does he come to Earth? Okay.

Leer - Episode 63:
[50:18] You know them comments gonna kill us.

Nick - Episode 63:
[50:21] I only watched second coming ones. I didn't want to do anymore.

Matt - Episode 63:
[50:26] Genetically yeah oh wow that didn't work on them go.

Leer - Episode 63:
[50:29] Tanks and trunk.

Matt - Episode 63:
[50:30] So my my question where this is going to is you guys prefer the first broly but do you think would you rather have that first broly be the canon and then continue or do you think that the second one is the first broly.

Persia - Episode 63:
[50:46] Wouldn't make first well good for what he is.

Matt - Episode 63:
[50:50] Something that at least like gives it a reason and why the second Broly is kind of toned down.

Leer - Episode 63:
[50:55] Actually, the first Broly can actually fit in the timeline.
It can only fit in the timeline when it was the seven days before they fought Cell.
But the only thing that's different is, I think it was something that was different, and I can't remember it.
But it can actually fit in the timeline. I mean, if they never did the Super Broly, I mean, me personally, I would be fine with it, but I do like the addition.
And they've given him more personality.

Nick - Episode 63:
[51:20] As a story-wise character, He is better But if you're just looking for some straight up action Beat the shit out of you mindless motherfucker Yeah.

Persia - Episode 63:
[51:30] That's kind of like That is That was why I liked it I think I said it on the Great Debate episode Dragon Ball was like, the whole series was just it was just action because it touched on like that such a basic um instinct for like a young boy is like i want to see niggas fight i just want to see that's so true this is like especially.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[51:54] Around that time in the 90s where it was just like action cartoons.

Persia - Episode 63:
[51:57] I think bro x-men 97 the original x-men.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[52:00] Power rangers drag about z.

Persia - Episode 63:
[52:02] We just.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[52:04] Want to fight.

Persia - Episode 63:
[52:05] Bro when you think when you when you think about it, literally literally overly aggressive when you think about it when you think about it like even thinking about other animes from that and other anime from that that time period and like other back asian culture in general like asian culture is just as rich as any other culture why do you what what what steeped through like what made it through the filter the fucking fighting like yeah dragon ball of all the anime that came through dragon ball like marty said dragon ball was the biggest one that was like kind of spearheaded why mortal kombat why mortal kombat was made by americans but it's based on martial arts yeah so mortal kombat yeah street Street Fighter. Fucking.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[52:54] I'm playing Mortal Kombat 1 when I get home.

Nick - Episode 63:
[52:56] Karate Kid.

Marty - Episode 63:
[52:56] Yeah.

Persia - Episode 63:
[52:57] Karate Kid. It's all kind of steeped, but like what, that interest in the fucking fighting is what appealed to like young boys.
Even if we were, even if you're talking about fucking card games and shit, it's still fighting. Yeah. Like, you know, so it's like.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[53:13] Yu-Gi-Oh. Yu-Gi-Oh. It was monsters fighting.

Persia - Episode 63:
[53:15] It was monsters fighting.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[53:16] Fighting. Yeah.

Nick - Episode 63:
[53:17] Monsters fighting. Seto Kaiba was straight fighting.

Persia - Episode 63:
[53:19] Fantasy.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[53:19] He was. He was on his shit.

Persia - Episode 63:
[53:21] Yeah. Like.

Leer - Episode 63:
[53:21] I killed myself.

Persia - Episode 63:
[53:22] The fantasy element and the violent element appealed to our little fucking little boy brains.
And then that opened the gate.
So that... Dragon Ball did its job because we've said it multiple times.
It opened the doorways for more shit.
Like, maybe... My favorite is Attack on Titan.
So one of Matt's is Demon Slayer. one of like nix's one piece like whatever and one piece was a granted one piece was already going on but like like.

Nick - Episode 63:
[53:57] One piece they.

Persia - Episode 63:
[53:58] All contain an element of that thing that you got from dragonball which was just the fighting dragonball.

Leer - Episode 63:
[54:05] Transcended transcended just.

Persia - Episode 63:
[54:07] Exactly yeah marty did you want to take it somewhere from there nah man.

Marty - Episode 63:
[54:12] Uh no i i i mean i could just say that uh dragonball z and And this is why I feel like it's like the greatest of all time.
It's a tattoo of the Little Red Hen.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[54:23] Okay. Yeah, man.

Marty - Episode 63:
[54:24] You know the story of the Little Red Hen? I'll tell you that.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[54:26] I'm scared.

Persia - Episode 63:
[54:27] Of course, the Little Red Hen.

Marty - Episode 63:
[54:28] Yeah, the Little Red Hen. Like, you know, you're trying to make the bread at the home.

Persia - Episode 63:
[54:31] Don't come around after the bread's already done.

Marty - Episode 63:
[54:33] Exactly.

Persia - Episode 63:
[54:33] Bitch-ass nigga.

Marty - Episode 63:
[54:34] It's the story of life.

Persia - Episode 63:
[54:34] Come on, bro. Hey, come on. I thought it was like a No Limit Mania song.

Marty - Episode 63:
[54:37] It's the story of life, bro. I thought it was like a Morse story. But no, man.

Nick - Episode 63:
[54:39] I do read.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[54:40] Never.

Marty - Episode 63:
[54:40] Dragon Ball Z. Just the fact that we even, like, speaking about the movies and shit, like, I can't really think of any anime that we can sit here and name like not only the movies but then you had a whole prequel that dominated and then you came right behind it and then fucking dominated again the only one that's closest i think is naruto like in the sense of where you had naruto you had naruto shippuden but the movies didn't do nearly the movies were good though but they were they were but not like that but not i'm not speaking about like dragon balls yeah no but if you like i'm.

Nick - Episode 63:
[55:11] Not not gonna lie to you real quick on naruto's tip watch the movies though yeah no.

Marty - Episode 63:
[55:16] I didn't say like some of the best fight.

Nick - Episode 63:
[55:20] Scenes are in their movie yeah.

Marty - Episode 63:
[55:21] For sure like rock.

Nick - Episode 63:
[55:22] Lean i think the third or fourth one when he he run up that chain.

Marty - Episode 63:
[55:26] Yeah i was.

Nick - Episode 63:
[55:27] Like oh the ice one i don't know one no i just remember that fucking scene bro but anyway.

Marty - Episode 63:
[55:33] But yeah uh well uh before.

Leer - Episode 63:
[55:36] We like close out or do anything well.

Marty - Episode 63:
[55:38] We still got time i know that, we were checking the time we were checking the time hey wait wait hold on hold on, earlier i was kicking my movies and then like everybody starts sending a point i was like all right cool that's cool and shit let me kick man anyway before we close out but we don't gotta wrap it up now I want.

Leer - Episode 63:
[56:06] To say some Toriyama facts.

Marty - Episode 63:
[56:07] We don't.

Leer - Episode 63:
[56:09] Go to Toriyama.

Marty - Episode 63:
[56:10] Facts at.

Leer - Episode 63:
[56:10] The end yeah at the end.

Marty - Episode 63:
[56:11] Yeah but no anime once again no anime is done with Dragon Ball Z is done like just as far as like that is concerned and then like, you you go between like you you took a hiatus and was able to come back but just when you were outside you were outside with like the greatest animes that we can kind of like name and then as the new shit pops off whatever they try to make a mention or whatever but like no he was out with yu yu hakusho he was out with one piece he was out with gun to wing he was out with uh, samurai shanploo and kawaii bebop you were outside when all of this shit was happening but like those emotions that you were feeling when goku was going super saiyan when gohan was and super saiyan like that shit trans like you said it transcended bro like it's like it's not too many animes that you can sit here and be like well damn i felt like an actual my hair stand up and shit like that like multiple times you feel me even when goku came back i want to say that's i.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[57:00] Was saying that um when we were talking about demon slayer how there hasn't really been an anime that maybe because we're grown and we're just adults now and maybe like the kids that do that i don't know.

Marty - Episode 63:
[57:13] There doesn't.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[57:13] There's no anime that just pulls me out of like you gotta watch more anime i can't watch attack on titan it's i don't like it i'm not recommending that one i'm recommending because like i will say that strike two nigga so who me uh antonio first, superhero shit damn now.

Persia - Episode 63:
[57:36] You say you don't like attack on.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[57:37] Whatever i say my opinion y'all just of coming at me today.

Leer - Episode 63:
[57:40] Hold on.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[57:40] God damn. It's too much breeder testosterone today.

Matt - Episode 63:
[57:45] I'm not giving up.

Persia - Episode 63:
[57:46] I just got to attack you because, you know, first of all, you touched on my soft spot, pause. And two...

Nick - Episode 63:
[57:54] Unpause.

Persia - Episode 63:
[57:56] Pause.

Nick - Episode 63:
[57:58] Unpause. Unpause.

Persia - Episode 63:
[58:00] And then two...
Anyway, go ahead.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[58:06] There hasn't been, I was saying in my first episode when you and I were talking,
Dragon Ball's Impact on Anime Culture

[58:11] there hasn't been an anime that touched my nerves like that that hit me in the heart. You know, Nezuko, found out she was alive and then Rengoku, the speech that that homeboy gave.
We were talking about this last episode.
You bitch-bag nigga! Come back here, fucker!

Persia - Episode 63:
[58:30] Bitch-ass nigga!

Leer - Episode 63:
[58:31] Come kick his ass!

Persia - Episode 63:
[58:32] Um there hasn't been anything that.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[58:35] Hit me like that aside from dragon ball z you know and back to back go when you see piccolo get shot krill and die you're like fuck and then he turns super san what the fuck you that speech uh 16 gives to gohan grow the fuck up you ain't the only one going through shit grow up.

Persia - Episode 63:
[58:54] Yeah but that boy cry and go super san fucking beautiful i do feel like with that shit too though like a lot of emotional that is to marty's point yeah which, so i just want to i just want to touch on this for the for the like i just want to clarify something right i just know no i just want to clarify something what.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[59:16] Is this and.

Persia - Episode 63:
[59:17] Essentially essentially so in the great debate episode oh.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[59:23] No not part two.

Persia - Episode 63:
[59:26] Marty and leer were kind of like we're like team dragon ball yeah me and nick were team like everything one piece and everything else pretty much everything else but look look because we're all over the place yeah because what we were saying they're like 20 different animes yeah yeah because that's what we were saying because we were saying that like you know dragon ball z is like a pinnacle but we don't think it's the best yeah and it's the blueprint but i i this episode but to to to marty's point is like no matter what which which i think that i think that that's what dragon ball was meant to do i think that was his role like it was meant to be the foundation that is built like all these other things are built off of and that's normal because like if you come first now if you come first no back then it was like bro that's like that's like bro that you think about it like like like think about like a parent right yeah if you look at dragon ball while it's in his 20s it's a fit-ass man like whatever then dragon ball has kids and what do you want for your kids you want your kids to be better than you like you want them You helped them to grow up and build off of what you gave them.
So that... And I feel like Dragon Ball did that because...

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:00:46] I mean, we told you that in an episode.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:00:47] Even to the point that Marty was just making, when people...
All of those, like, some of these anime were out. Like, Yu Yu Hakusho was out. Cowboy Bebop was out.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:01:00] Sailor Moon was out.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:01:01] But you were watching Dragon Ball. Because you weren't, like, when it went.
This podcast is called The Bebop.
I'm sure that Cowboy Bebop didn't start affecting you until later.
But you started with Dragon Ball.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:01:21] I don't know.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:01:21] I

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:01:22] Was an emotional.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:01:23] Ass kid I'm saying like for me Dragon Ball was just like I was like all in with fucking Dragon Ball I think Dragon Ball.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:01:32] Was my first anime.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:01:33] It was my first anime And then I just thought about it while we were talking Maybe Sailor Moon but it was definitely.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:01:38] Dragon Ball was there Definitely Dragon Ball and Sailor Moon were my first anime.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:01:42] So actually I think this would be a good place to go From here I want to touch on The impact that it had on you which for me that's what dragon ball was my first one like when i was watching when i was watching toonami i was it was mainly dragon ball i watched i watched everything else too but dragon ball was like my bread and butter and then when i kind of like fell off of dragon ball and like just anime in general but dragon ball like has always had a place in my heart but then even when i got back into it like later on like when when me and nick met and like i became friends with like everybody like nick was watching anime and i'm a kind of person where like i'm i don't, seek things out and i don't like for especially for tv shows you just got to catch me like something something has to catch me and yeah and like hook me and then i'll go so i remember remember vividly one time i came i went to nick's house and it was before super came out and naruto was on and bujo was there we were watching it like it was on but i wasn't really paying attention but i was like oh that looks crazy but i didn't watch it like i didn't i was i still wasn't watching anime at the point at that time until super came out and then when super came out i was like oh.

[1:03:04] Bitch i'm like i'm watching the fucking i'm watching i'm watching the fight as i'm like god damn what the fuck so super open like super it's crazy super got me back into anime and then open the open the open the doors for me to start watching more shit a lot.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:03:20] Of people feel like that was.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:03:21] About six years ago yeah don't cry yeah but.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:03:26] Yeah because we've been living together for like five.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:03:28] Yeah so so it was so there was I was I was watching that shit but like bro like my first anime tattoo was, you know my fucking um like dragon ball open that open those doors for me like i used to those were like the only figures that i got and like that kind of shit like bro i made a song called dragon ball super like it was broly song too i made a song like bro it ain't out like there's there's dragon ball y'all.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:04:01] Niggas is high.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:04:01] Like bro i wouldn't i wouldn't prove it, like you can never you can never take away what dragon ball has done because like bro that shit that shit what is is life-changing like even like like bro i would i would have never started watching attack on titan if i never started watching super and i never was i never like for me it went super i think future diary um the fates and then naruto and then i was like i'm like like all right i'm here i'm here now this is my life and then i was just like but like it started with dragon ball so like part of my personality yeah literally it's it is my personality but like i would never so i would never shit i would never shit on like dragon ball at all and, i i still stand on my point but not this.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:04:53] Episode no no it ain't that it's just to build on what you're saying bro it's just like this right dragon ball z even with this moment that we having right now it's like it's kind of like michael jackson when he they were out.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:05:03] When mike.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:05:04] Was out right mike at jackson five did some crazy shit and then he came out by himself and when he was out by himself he was wrecking shit so crazy that he transcended what was going on so when dbz came out like bro all of these animes with these dope ass stories and all of this shit they were outside at the same time but dbz was so crazy and good at what they were doing that it it beat beat everything out.
You dig what I'm saying? So, like, and so when it's run...
incomparable bro like like like it's not if all respect on one piece and every creator in anime this shit won't happen again.

Matt - Episode 63:
[1:05:41] You say transcending and that's literally the best way to describe it because dragon ball literally especially dragon ball z it transcended anime because it was such a cultural phenomenon there's not a single anime even today with how anime is respected and like it's popular now it's still everywhere it's referenced in movies cartoons all western stuff and correct me if i'm wrong isn't dragon ball evolution the first ever pokemon's probably the only pokemon's up there i'm sorry pokemon but that's more video game but pokemon like prince then we can say i would i would.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:06:21] Call it pokemon's more.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:06:22] I would say the big three cards back when when we were growing up, was maybe I'm biased because one of them is one of my favorites.
Sailor Moon, Dragon Ball Z, and Pokemon were the big three in the 90s.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:06:36] 2000s. Yu-Gi-Oh! gotta be in there somewhere.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:06:38] Yu-Gi-Oh!

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:06:39] Came out.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:06:39] Yu-Gi-Oh! was like early 2000s.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:06:41] Yu-Gi-Oh!

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:06:43] Haka Show.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:06:43] Those three were out before it was popular to be in anime.
You didn't necessarily have to seek them out. You could find Dragon Ball.
if you didn't have cable you could find i didn't i didn't either i i lived in india right twins i lived in bro i.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:07:03] Mean even but like even even to that point.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:07:06] Like right like bro.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:07:08] It even it even affected like like i think i told that i told that story on the fucking uh.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:07:13] Music episode where like the score that the score.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:07:16] From a gt episode like made me cry when i.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:07:19] Was yeah just from listening to it like.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:07:21] It was like bro.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:07:22] It's that piccolo death that's what i'm that shit is just who go ahead what's talking my bad i.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:07:28] Was gonna say when we were kids if you watched a bunch of animes a lot.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:07:34] Of people would.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:07:34] Be like you're the weird anime kid yep.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:07:36] But if you watch.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:07:37] Dragon ball z that was.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:07:38] Everyone that was the only one that is so true that's what i'm saying transcends anime it transcends look at like.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:07:45] Matt point that's that's what you thought You like Ben 10, we beating your ass.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:07:49] But that's what I'm getting into, like, with creation and shit like that.
So, like, you have to, A, become a god, and then we can compare it.
So, like, Eddie Murphy in comedy would be a prime example where he transcended comedy to where everybody knew him.
Now Kevin Hart and Eddie Murphy can be in comparison because they transcended their craft.
What I'm saying is that everything that happened with DBZ is only two or three animes that you can name.
I'm only thinking Naruto that you can put in that hat that transcends to where, bro, fuck just anime people that loves anime.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:08:21] But this is a show that.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:08:22] A medium that someone likes. Bro, across the board. And that's so difficult to do, man.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:08:28] Your grandparents know what it is and never seen it?

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:08:31] Come on, bro.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:08:31] It's so true. You've done something. Yeah, I mean, you have to be rooted in some goodness or something. something you know i mean like you got polarizing people speaking about dragon balls and shit like that yeah.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:08:43] Wait wait wait we're good we're going we're going along so marty since you were talking we're going to go out of order a little bit but what's it tell me talk about the impact for you.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:08:52] Uh training bro just uh goku goku's uh resilience just being like a lower level saying, and then just keep training bro and just his lightheartedness and just like how you approach life with like pure heart and just want to like protect people and just be strong as fuck like that was crazy to me like to where he goku don't give a fuck about nothing but just the beauty of fighting and i'm just getting stronger like that's it you feel me so like in that chill out so in that bro like that whole shit was just it's like ingrained in my dna world and yeah you feel me like you put it all on the line bro and he just wants to fight and get stronger like it is like Like, if a person has a pure relationship with their craft, bro, like...

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:09:35] Goku, stop that.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:09:36] No, I feel that, though. It's not pure, bro.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:09:37] They came to fight Goku. That's why I always say, like, Goku is the strongest anime character. It's not because...
It has nothing to do with, oh, this person can do this, this person can do that.
These people have jobs. Naruto is a fucking Hokage. He's going to work.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:09:51] That man is the president, basically.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:09:52] You see what I'm saying? Like, that's a job, bro. Like, My Hero Academia, it's a job, bro. Like, these dudes are just... Like, you just look high in all these homies.
It's their job. job goku wakes up and wants to
The Enduring Legacy of Dragon Ball

[1:10:02] fight since he's a fucking kid he had a job in super he quit that he wasn't on that bro so like his whole identity is fighting when people try to make the comparison i'm like yeah superman is saving the world because it's a job and this nigga just want to fight niggas bro so he's going to lose but he's going to go back and get stronger because he's just looking to fight bro that's it so like you can't be stronger than that like i.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:10:28] Do feel I feel like nothing really set the tone for that.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:10:32] Trope.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:10:33] Like, nothing.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:10:36] Take care of your children.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:10:38] No i'm a god no, no no no bro no no no bro why would i say no not to be like that, no no no what happened to oppenheimer no it ain't what happened to oppenheimer well remember yes he was he was he was watch my baby i gotta go do some important shit. Not to be like that.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:11:07] Time out, time out, time out. Don't compare Goku to Oppenheimer.
One saves Japan. The other one wrecks it.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:11:17] They both drop bombs.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:11:20] One is of pure heart. The other is of pure hate.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:11:24] He was pure.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:11:25] No.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:11:29] The America hates.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:11:31] America.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:11:32] Hold on.
hold on time out he's dropping the bombs uh oppenheimer hold on oppenheimer was working that whole time funny goku leaves his kids to just go train that's not working.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:11:52] But if you think about universe no don't give me no but kid it is training and my.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:11:59] Kids can fight for themselves if chichi wasn't rich if it wasn't for the They are rich.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:12:04] Oh they broke now I forgot Okay hold on Hold on That's why I got to Fight in this tournament Why.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:12:09] Do you think They live in the woods.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:12:10] First of all First of all I.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:12:12] Guess Yeah that's Bulma.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:12:14] First of all Let me drop Let me Let me Let me back Let me back Marty up Real quick Poor Matt I'm.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:12:21] Sorry Matt The look on Matt's face Is him just transcripting The whole thing.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:12:24] Let me Let me back Marty up Real quick He'll.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:12:26] Go home Be like fuck He.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:12:28] Ain't gonna be On PlayStation.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:12:29] For a week.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:12:30] One One. One.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:12:33] God damn.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:12:35] Training is work.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:12:37] Justifying Zed beat that shit.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:12:38] Because if you think about any other fighter who does fight professionally, training is part of their job.
Because you're only, yeah, or any athlete in general, because you're like actually doing the event is probably 5% of everything.
And you have to spend the other 95 getting ready for that.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:12:58] I heard you hate Dragon Ball.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:12:58] Hold on.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:12:59] He hate it.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:12:59] He do.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:13:01] He hate it.

Matt - Episode 63:
[1:13:02] Hold on.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:13:03] I'm backing Marty on that one. And then also, in terms of not watching your kid, that's normal for a warrior.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:13:14] Now, hold on.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:13:14] Wait, wait, wait. Go ahead.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:13:16] Go ahead. I have a point.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:13:17] I have a point.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:13:19] Wait, because if you think about any soldier or any warrior, ancient warrior or samurai or whatever, it does make it right because the alternative is niggas coming to your village to kill your wife and your kid.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:13:33] And now your girl fucking the neighbor.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:13:36] Okay, but, but, but, but, that's not your excuse because you know why?

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:13:41] It is, it is.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:13:41] You know why it's not? Piccolo. Piccolo is raising somebody else's grandchild.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:13:46] Now, hold on.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:13:47] Piccolo is not as strong as Piccolo.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:13:48] He took someone else's grandchild.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:13:50] He took a stranded widow. He chose to do that. No, no, no, no.
This is why it's necessary.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:13:54] Now, if you guys raise your ass, I'm raising, I'm raising your seed, and now I'm raising your grandchild.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:14:01] Hold on, hold on.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:14:02] Hold on.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:14:03] No no no no no piccolo go against frieza if he wasn't busy fucking playing god granddaddy he would have been able to listen he ain't strong enough bro go you that's necessary it's a necessary evil bro like when you met goku and dragon ball right he was training chichi was on his ass he was training bro like dog that's reason why people lose michael jordan's a piece of shit father but he's the greatest of all time why because he was focused i'm not just it was we're not justified As black men.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:14:30] We're not justifying deadbeat dads.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:14:31] It's not a deadbeat dad.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:14:33] It's not a deadbeat dad.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:14:35] Marty, you have two kids.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:14:37] You're not justifying this. My mission comes first. My mission comes first.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:14:41] The mission comes first. Goku was with his son in the beginning.
He died sacrificing himself to beat Raditz.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:14:52] And then you'll never see me again.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:14:55] He sacrificed himself before i'm just starting in the beginning we get piccolo in the beginning gohan to train him and they created a bond a stronger bond than he would have had with goku because it was at an age where you create that stronger bond than when you were a toddler so that's how they created that bond and then goku sacrificed himself again after he had just uh trained gohan to turn super saiyan they just.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:15:23] Killed that nigga from jump see.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:15:25] He had the heart virus he didn't even get a chance to fight Sam I know.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:15:29] But had if it wasn't for Vegeta Vegeta-ing, no one we wouldn't have this problem go who would have been alive yeah.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:15:38] That is hold.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:15:39] On i have a point to make i have a point to make hold on hold on i gotta go can.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:15:46] I just drop something in real quick.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:15:47] Just a little drop here go remember.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:15:49] Remember on last episode when you said that i was the only one that rants you.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:15:54] Remember that am i right no i said your ranch everyone yeah no because we're at.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:15:58] A fucking hour and he was like no you know just you.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:16:01] And I was like I was bullying you that day to be fair I really rant everyone fucking rant I was bullying you in that episode so my point is for the training thing at the end of Dragon Ball Z he leaves he goes I'm gonna leave but.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:16:20] He was only back for a day.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:16:21] But my thing is you're like oh he's training and that's his job and yeah you have days off okay you do have days off to spend with your family chill, relax.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:16:30] He wants it. Goku said with the god of destruction.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:16:32] No, listen, so in GT, he leaves to go train with the dragons.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:16:37] Another child.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:16:38] No, he was dead. He died. He died in GT.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:16:41] No, he didn't. No, he didn't.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:16:43] He left.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:16:45] At the end. No, he didn't. He left as a kid to go train with the dragons and then aged up again.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:16:50] Check me out.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:16:51] He was not dead.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:16:52] What happened when Goku died in the future?

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:16:55] What?

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:16:55] What happened when Goku died in the future? Which future? The future With Trunks and Gohan Everybody dies Everybody dies right, I'm saying Goku is a necessary evil bro Him training And being focused On what's necessary Because what's the alternative, What's the alternative bro Frieza What's the alternative bro You get the hot timeline Everybody With Frieza If Trunks ain't show up Everybody looking like Oh shit Frieza here What we gonna do Yo What we gonna do Hold.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:17:22] On Matt's got a point.

Matt - Episode 63:
[1:17:23] I want it to be Cause I want to save a lot for the Great Debate.
I had a lot to say about a lot of stuff that you had to say.
But I was like, this is a memorial episode, so I can't say anything bad.
But I do have to bring up, because how you were saying, he's kind of like Captain Marvel, where his main objective is just to protect the whole planet, not just focus on the kid.
you didn't make a point to where my point is might like cut it kids but with the cell one specifically with cell i was literally watching a clip the other day where so like i know you all seen it was literally had gohan like holding him just smacking the shit out of him and goku's just staring smiling at him.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:18:06] Yes no.

Matt - Episode 63:
[1:18:08] But even no but even then if your sole objective is to protect protect everything in that world he's a fucking what is that he's a saying because we see how, gohan turns out if he cared about gohan being that tough why didn't he want him to be that tough when he was grown up because.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:18:25] He's a fucking.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:18:26] He's a saying he doesn't think the same way as a he was dead and then b he took him to train him he seen what he was made of being a parent i understood that moment where it was like okay bro i can't do it for you you have to do it and you're stronger than me fuck all the bullshit you hit two you're stronger than me no because i've done it with my son before i put his back against the wall and i'm like bro you're gonna have to find out what you're made of i can't do that that's the only way you can do that that's the only way you know like so it's like we want to fucking change that was the best like if you think about it if.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:18:56] You first of all you got to think about it first of all we're debating all this shit and then like we've already seen it play out like.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:19:02] Gohan is.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:19:03] So mad he's a pussy now.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:19:06] But when you think about it.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:19:11] When you think about it, he's a pussy now, but wait, when you think about it, Gohan is in, like, you can talk about that in real life.
Any nigga that was super active, during their teenage years is chilling by the time that they're in their 20s, there's a direct correlation like gohan saved the fucking world when he was like 12.

Matt - Episode 63:
[1:19:42] But that never ever thought about it like that i was always one of those people that is always like they ruined gohan why isn't he that way but i've never looked at it like that where because i see a lot of other stories like mob psycho where they try to they're held to a standard where they're like you are going to be this you have to be this and it's like that's.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:20:06] What happened in.

Matt - Episode 63:
[1:20:06] Bottom two like when.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:20:07] Baki was fighting his father his father beat the fuck out of him but he knew what he was built and made of type shit that doesn't mean so i have a son and he brought his full potential out that's what you look as a father bro look Look, as a father, your job is to prepare your child for life. Your job isn't to be there every fucking day.
Your job is that's what they have the mother there for. Goku spent one year with his son, bro. And then he put him in position to go protect the world, bro.
That's it. You're prepared for the world. And that's the strongest Gohan has ever been, bro, at 12. So if you spent a year with me and I got you to Super Saiyan 2, bro, I did my fucking job.
What the fuck is we talking about, bro? No, because Piccolo got you to do some bullshit.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:20:47] I got you to go to Super Saiyan 2. He got me to do the music, though.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:20:49] That's good.
Piccolo was a better, nurturer. Mother.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:21:01] He's a better mother.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:21:02] Goku did.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:21:04] Goku did.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:21:07] To be honest, because when you think about it.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:21:10] It's too nice.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:21:11] When you think about it, like in Gohan's situation, Goku taught him, like brought out his full potential as a saying as a saying saying, piccolo brought his potential out as a man and then chichi is still disciplined into him yeah he is a he is he takes a village yeah he's he is well-rounded goku's like a quarter he's just not the strongest he's just like when i could when i say he's a pussy i'm talking about as a saying now because like but but he did the same thing he did the same thing.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:21:44] He like bro what the He.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:21:45] Did the same thing Piccolo did. He kind of like took a seat back.
He wanted to, like, he did his thing.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:21:54] If your job as a parent is to do what you say to, explain Vegeta's relationship with Trunks.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:22:00] It was Trumotri's at first.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:22:02] He be beating the fuck out of Trunks.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:22:05] Trunks ain't nowhere near where Gohan was.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:22:09] Yes, he is.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:22:10] Because he was fighting Trunks.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:22:12] Trunks ain't nowhere near.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:22:14] He was raised different He was raised different I would say future.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:22:21] Trunks is soft as fuck.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:22:22] Future Trunks?

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:22:23] Two seconds guys Hold on Hold on Can I say my.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:22:30] Theory on Gohan? I just kind of came to this Over the weekend, Gohan, he was always Afraid because he didn't think he was strong enough And then Goku proved to him that he was strong enough When Goku died he continued Continued training, even secretly so his mom didn't know, and became the great Saiyan Man.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:22:47] Yeah.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:22:48] He...
When Goku was gone, and he wasn't alive anymore because he ran out of time, he felt like he did all that stuff with the Kai's, and he felt like he was the one who was going to be able to beat Buu.
He failed, and that might have been like, I failed.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:23:04] Trauma.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:23:05] I'd rather just go into this and not deal with that anymore.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:23:09] People don't like failing. But you said like, oh, yeah, Pearl.
Yeah, she's a good example, to be honest with you. Everybody watch Pearl.
She's a huge inspiration.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:23:17] Is that the porno movie?

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:23:18] What's your favorite moment?

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:23:18] It's the pickle to it yeah uh impact yeah i'm gonna say none of us we only got the two of us so far we gotta we gotta so i'm gonna just name my impact i'm gonna just go on mine i think we.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:23:28] Gotta cut cut our rants down for a second.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:23:30] Yeah yeah so i'm gonna just go on my go just.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:23:33] Talk about it.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:23:34] Yeah i like the justification we.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:23:36] Can buck later yeah.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:23:37] We'll bark afterwards so my camera no we can do it on the end joe ass right now we do it on the end that's.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:23:43] A black man.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:23:44] It happens i'm a warrior though he's a warrior my kids before he went to war and you.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:23:51] Hated that shit no.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:23:52] I didn't he.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:23:52] Had i was having a ball i.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:23:54] Was at war no i was at war having a ball like yeah you feel a fucking you told me you hated that shit no no no i loved it i hate that i can't sleep at night like that's different.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:24:04] But like as far as.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:24:05] Like being able to be primal and.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:24:06] Be who you.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:24:07] Really are bro i don't feel like it's lit bro like at night but oh.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:24:10] Man Everyone takes things differently That's the man It's war It's all about me guys right now Thank you, sorry finally that's white man, second chances second chances second chances it's got to be with second chances uh giving people second chances because some of the best characters were made uh from a second chance i know you were saying that the leaving them alive thing was a bad trope but i mean he left piccolo live now that's the best mother father we ever seen we left vegeta alive and had one of the best sacrifices we've ever seen vegeta sacrifice you know amazing.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:24:49] He had he had a good character.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:24:50] Yeah and that so like that that second chance trope um dragon ball z nailed it very well i mean i get most of mine from comic books but to compare like dragon ball z fucking nailed it with a with the second chances they've been doing it since dragon ball though like tn was an assassin who was supposed to kill him well yeah yeah it's like there was like to be honest with you like we have have all these tropes for dragon ball z but it's the second chances that is the number one trope for dragon ball z because everyone has gotten this except for cell um no second chance for you but even boo got a second chance kid boo was reincarnated as oob so second chance so frieza he tried to give him a second chance but then frieza's a little bitch ass racist so he's like, he's the joker he's alive now he's.

Matt - Episode 63:
[1:25:43] The joker he needed them for the dragon ball universe.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:25:45] So yeah so like for me it would be like second chances you know i'm down for giving people a second chance and um you know it's only evolved since then i'm not gonna give you like multiple i'm not gonna keep going but nah i'm done with that you get two and then you're expired two and done you're expired three times can't get so you know oh i'm not talking about for me personally.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:26:07] What's yours okay bro like the thing with dragon ball z bro that shit was so fucking fire from like niggas who didn't even like cartoons will watch dragon ball z bro it wasn't considered a cartoon i don't know if y'all ever drew one of these characters any of these characters.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:26:24] Everyone in this room is everybody raise their hand.

Matt - Episode 63:
[1:26:26] If they draw the dragon ball z character.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:26:28] Okay raise every single person i remember putting the motherfucking loose on the TV and tracing niggas.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:26:34] Bro.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:26:35] Like I would buy art shit just so I can draw Dragon Ball Z characters.
But the impact, man, bro, this nigga Goku, I know that y'all said all that shit about him, which is fucking true.
Some of that shit is mad true, but this nigga don't quit, bro.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:26:52] Yeah that's.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:26:52] That's the main thing.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:26:53] That's another that's another good i.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:26:55] Can take away from goku even though all the shit that he go through he he don't quit that.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:27:00] Nigga don't quit i meant to say that that's what i was i was saying something earlier and that's where i was going with it like they set the tone for that for that like when it comes to like not yeah like perseverance because yeah when it comes movie but like when it when it comes when it comes to that theme specifically that dragon ball set the tone for that because when you think about like when i'm thinking about other anime from that time period like they're more they were mostly more story driven and, dragon ball is like like good call like let's fight get my ass beat i'm gonna come back a little stronger get my ass beat again yeah i'm gonna come back a little stronger, all of them niggas bro it's like this nigga.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:27:43] Goku was so uh just just his his perseverance was so so fucking much that every single character he came in contact with, from the end of the Dragon Ball, when he fought Piccolo and won the World Tournament, this nigga Piccolo wanted to beat his ass, but he was so cool with him though, and we ended up getting the Radek's name.
He beat, well not him personally, but they beat Vegeta, and then he gave him that second chance.
He like, no, Curlin don't kill him, because I might want to fight him again, and then- Rob Markman.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:28:11] I might want to fight him again.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:28:12] Rob Markman, and then I just watched this over the weekend, Vegeta, his whole thing on Namek, bro, it's just like his whole mindset just changed after getting that ass whooping by Goku.
Rob Markman, And another just impact it had on me, bro. I ain't gonna cap.
This might be a little corny, but like, the power of friendship. On real, bro.
Like on the real. Rob Markman, That's cute. Rob Markman, No, like bro, these niggas went to a whole different planet.
to go revive their friends that's instantly gonna die again yeah bro they were like like yeah like that shit is like and just seeing different characters go super saiyan bro that's, everything about dragon ball is just it's fire to me but yeah yeah uh but it's a lot more animates that's better story wise but that's not this episode antonio.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:28:57] Um bro.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:28:58] No fuck that.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:28:59] For me the impact um as i said it is it is it is honestly dragon ball is my first love um, i found my first attraction to males you know with buff dudes you know i saw myself in a person with gohan just having a you don't want to do something i'm sorry you don't want to, be involved in some shit but you're forced to and the way you have to step up yeah you just sometimes have to step up to yeah and you may not necessarily want to yeah but if i'm gonna step up i'm gonna blow you out of the fucking water and that's that's how i live my life i don't want to do half the shit i have to do in my life but i'm gonna be the fucking best at it that's.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:29:48] A good point about gohan.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:29:49] Um so i love that um gohan just gohan in general i think he is my favorite character um i and just like i have brothers and just and that was like growing up that was the thing that the three of us all all shared uh we didn't we are very different as men especially now that we're in our 30s and 20s um the three of us are very different but that was one thing we all united over united over with some fucking dragon ball z um so i'm stuck with that it will always be, part of me that's what i said like it hurt me a little bit because like i said getting older and realizing how fragile mortality is sometimes and like you're like i said the i want to touch.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:30:34] On that at the end.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:30:35] Okay mortality um you know you just think they're gonna always be there and it's not man it's still working so it broke my heart a little bit um seeing this um so yeah just seeing just you have someone else like the potential and just keep pushing forward and Keep getting stronger Yeah That shit It's questionable circumstances Like don't leave your children But Go.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:30:58] To war baby I gotta go to war too You.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:31:00] Went to war He just wants to fight He just wants to fight He said he's not coming We.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:31:05] Ain't going back on this We ain't.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:31:07] Going back on this We ain't going back on this Watch the show You'll find out But just him Just like Finding his The limitless potential Go get Goku You know what I'm saying And then also just like It's been part of my media career, intake for so long that's fucking light it's been part of my media go.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:31:25] Get goku we some hoes.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:31:29] It's been part of my media intake for so long like i have all the dragon ball z movies and video games and stuff like that and it's just so like i said it's just been it's just part of my life yes dragon ball dragon ball z dragon ball super dragon ball gt even dragon ball gt it's It's my life.
It's been part of my life since I was a wee lad.
And it's probably going to be one of those things that I will never forget.
And I will probably be one of those kids. You know how your parents and grandparents be like, back in my day.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:31:58] Cartoons was different.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:32:00] I'm going to be that person to my uncles and nephews and nieces and kids.
I'm going to fucking jam that shit so far down their throat, it's going to be crazy. It's going to be... Stop being weird.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:32:14] I'm not being weird. You just...

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:32:15] Stop being weird Stop being weird There's no pause to that We're not I'm not sexually harassing children With fucking drag No we know What the fuck You.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:32:23] Took it too far We know that.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:32:25] Fuck You don't have to pause Everything you toxic Alright alright Alright so In a fucking moment What.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:32:32] Else is the impact Tonyo.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:32:34] It's my life Like it hurts No I know That this nigga is dead Who Oh Toriyama I'm so sorry The whole reason I thought he.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:32:43] Was Talking about Goku who is dead oh my god who.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:32:49] The fuck died.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:32:49] My bad that is my bad.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:32:51] It's like you do not need to smoke weed before i kill.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:32:53] You bro i was i was talking about goku go ahead.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:32:56] Anyway who.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:32:57] Died bro, Antonio.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:33:09] Thank you for pouring your heart into that, thank you, I appreciate it I appreciate it.

Matt - Episode 63:
[1:33:16] So as I said at the beginning my heart isn't as attached as your guys's only because when I was into the Dragon Ball Z's it was like like like how i said i mostly in took it from internet stuff watching music videos and then um like just playing the games but i having nick around and my brother and his friends they were drawing the dragon ball z characters they were watching it so i had it now when i was a kid i didn't have the concept of like messages or like story or like drama so like i've always seen Cowboy Bebop, and Yuwasha, Big O on Adult Swim.
But when I would watch those on, since they were dramas, don't get me wrong, they had great action and animation, but since they were dramas, I was like...
this looks cool sounds cool but i don't give a shit about it dragon ball z though when i was on i was like yeah like fuck yeah let's go i don't know what's going on i don't need to care about the people in front of me yeah i did and then my dad said don't go poopy and yeah yeah he.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:34:16] Was like i don't know how old were you were probably maybe six.

Matt - Episode 63:
[1:34:18] Somewhere seven yeah i said watch this you were young and i just went yeah he said watch.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:34:25] This and just started screaming.

Matt - Episode 63:
[1:34:26] She was.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:34:27] Fucking and hilarious and we're just it is like bro that is like peak of like kids going watch what i can.

Matt - Episode 63:
[1:34:33] Do i'll just do some while i did another thing like that but i jumped off the stairs jumped off the stairs dog immediately started crying everyone does it you said your impact he did that shit.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:34:47] In front of me like that was hilarious.

Matt - Episode 63:
[1:34:48] I said your mommy yeah.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:34:49] Mine no person oh yeah already.

Matt - Episode 63:
[1:34:52] Oh wait no so mine is no no finish up mine is so the impact that it has is like with it comes to not understand about the story the message is since i couldn't take that as a kid and i didn't i didn't have the concept of anime so i didn't continue to watch animes as i went on so dragon ball z i didn't watch it until like anime recently and so the impact that it had would just be honestly my taste in media for so many things style um just being able to to love dumb fun, like it doesn't have to be intricate, doesn't have to have depth as long as it's like engaging and like having fun with it and not taking itself too seriously.
And then like just the impact that I know it has on culture because of all my friends and stuff that I see everywhere in the world that it is.
So it's more just like kind of suited my taste for things.
So now when we talk about the great debate and how I see animes, every anime, dragon ball z is the only one that every single time i'm watching any single anime i pick up like they got that from dragon ball z oh that reminds me of that character from dragon ball z oh that reminds me this reminds me of that and when i was kind of delving into older animes i saw the influence even more like hunter hunter i started watching hunter hunter and i was like is this not made by the same dude that made dragon ball z like this is literally the same shit and.

[1:36:12] Yeah oh yeah he did yu yu haka show and hunter hunter yeah yeah i know that yeah and then And so it's just kind of it's more like a background influence for me where it's like I'm not in love and I don't have a attachment to the material because it didn't really do anything for my life.
But in terms of my taste, my media, the way I perceive things, it's had influence on that.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:36:31] That's a very good one.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:36:34] Wes, from a young age.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:36:36] Wes, young Wes.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:36:37] So I first saw Dragon Ball Z when I was like four or five.
I was camping with my grandparents and they had a camper and they had a TV in it so it doesn't have cable and it was on Fox it was the episode where, Vegeta's destroying everybody on earth and Goku shows up I'm like what the fuck is this and I never knew what it was, until it started to really when it got on Cartoon Network and everything like that and everybody was watching it then I was like oh that was that show from years ago but, it Dragon Ball Z I mean That was one of the only animes I watched as a kid, but...
Like you said, everybody drawing it. That's what really got me into my art side of stuff was drawing Dragon Ball Z.
I made my own Dragon Ball Z stories.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:37:26] Oh, yeah.

Matt - Episode 63:
[1:37:27] Nice. In comic books.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:37:29] Are they canon? That's awesome.

Matt - Episode 63:
[1:37:31] I love to hear that.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:37:33] Like I had comics that I made.

Matt - Episode 63:
[1:37:34] Sick.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:37:35] All the Dragon Ball Z stories with different characters. Different characters, but they looked like Goku and Gohan and Trunks and Vegeta and stuff like that.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:37:42] It's copyrighted, so you couldn't do them.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:37:45] Well if you've seen the drawings you would be like okay it's not that it's.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:37:49] A power pokemon thing so you're fine depending.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:37:53] On how you can sway around it.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:37:54] You're fine but.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:37:56] Yeah that shit i still love that shit of course yeah you'll.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:38:01] Have to pull all those comics for us later i.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:38:03] Would love to see that.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:38:04] I don't know where they are we'll.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:38:05] Find them well you all that shit you found recently.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:38:07] No i remember you got just redrawn for us i could probably redrawn but i think they're in uh Like my dad has this big chest.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:38:17] Wes will be going and finding them.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:38:19] Passed down from every member in the family. It's just like an old traveling trunk that people have.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:38:24] It's like a time capsule, but we can just go in whenever we want.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:38:27] I put a lot of my old shit in there, and I'm pretty sure that's where my comics are at.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:38:31] Perfect.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:38:31] He'll be bringing them next time. We are at 1.36, so I want to wrap this shit up because we weren't anticipating it.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:38:38] I'll talk about this stuff.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:38:39] I want to wrap it up if we have finishing points if we have final points of course but I just want to finish off by saying for,
Impact of Dragon Ball Z

[1:38:55] Akira Toriyama, thank you for your example thank you thank you for your work thank you for your influence nobody nobody that watches anime was not impacted by dragon ball and as a as an anime fan, it's no we we couldn't we can't help but be impacted by by dragon ball and and his work because it was that staple it was the foundation that pretty much this whole like the the new wave is built off of and you know every anime stands on its own but we wouldn't we wouldn't be as receptive on this side of the of the water and if it wasn't for dragon ball so and then as a as a just as a human and as a as a creator and an artist.

[1:39:56] Death does come for us all we we are all get affected by it but pretty much all everyone here is some is a creator in one form or another and the best that we can hope for is just to be honest and and transparent with our art put it out and it may impact people in the way that he toriyama has impacted people like like we can only hope you know and and i don't i i highly doubt that he he he anticipated that it would be what it was most creators don't think that way like most they just they just want their they just want it to be seen and for it to do what it has done is amazing so thank you for your example and thank you for your work and we we were all we're all better for it so thank you.

Matt - Episode 63:
[1:40:56] Toriyama very beautifully said.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:41:00] Goku.

Matt - Episode 63:
[1:41:01] Trunks.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:41:02] Gohan.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:41:02] Vegeta.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:41:03] Trunks.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:41:04] Piccolo.

Matt - Episode 63:
[1:41:08] Yeah.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:41:10] I don't have hair.

Matt - Episode 63:
[1:41:12] Yeah. My beard's going gold.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:41:14] Are we going to stand up and yell?

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:41:16] No, because the camera can't see us.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:41:18] So instead of having a moment of silence for Kiritori Ama, we'll be having a moment of powering up.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:41:24] Powering up.

Matt - Episode 63:
[1:41:25] I think we should just change our beards.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:41:27] Well, me and you, yeah.
Powering Up and Tribute to Toriyama

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:41:28] Well, some of us don't have beards.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:41:31] If you piss on this couch I gotta go like Super Saiyan 3 if possible Yeah.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:41:35] Marty's going Super Saiyan 3 Imagine if Raditz, Yeah, any Warning to anyone listening Don't scream directly in your mic, maybe hold it back some Maybe hold it back some No, we need, and this gotta be from that Get from your chest Channel Matt's inner child A moment.

Persia - Episode 63:
[1:41:53] Instead of Instead of a moment of silence, it's a moment of Saying.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:41:57] Let's do it Don't stand up They can't see you. You ain't gonna be in the camera. Oh, okay.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:42:07] He ain't did it since he was six. It's been a while.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:42:10] He's like, go home.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:42:12] You gotta get time.

Leer - Episode 63:
[1:42:13] Bro.
Channeling Inner Super Saiyan

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:42:16] You do rag off.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:42:17] Babes.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:42:17] Oh, hell no. Keep this bitch on.

Matt - Episode 63:
[1:42:21] You gotta...
Alright. Alright, it better look good. because this needs some work.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:42:32] All right.

Anthonio - Episode 63:
[1:42:33] One, two, three.

Matt - Episode 63:
[1:42:36] Oh!
All right.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:42:57] Wait, wait, wait. Alright, Nick, do your thing.

Nick - Episode 63:
[1:43:01] See you Space Cowboys later. Next time on Dragon Ball Z.

Marty - Episode 63:
[1:43:05] We out.