#68 - Drake Vs. The World!: The Bebop Boys talk the Fallout Series and Drake vs. Kendrick Lamar, Future, The Weeknd & Rick Ross!

Welcome back to the Bebop Podcast! Marty's back on this episode ! The boys go into the Fallout series (9:58) where Matt, Wes & Leer teach Persia & Marty the ins and outs of fall out ! Then they discuss Drake and his many many feuds (23:22). Finally the boys touch on Fame Hungry People (1:21:22). All this and more ! Buckle up space cowboy/girl. 

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Transcript

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:24] Mic check one two one two bebop boys back welcome back to the bebop podcast where we talk about anime movies comic books and all types of fly shit fellas fellas fellas boppers boppers boppers gang signs gang signs blocka blocka blocka boom shakalaka what's up what's up what's up man man. Welcome back.
Welcome back to the B-Bop Podcast.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:44] Welcome back, Marty.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:45] What's up, man?

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:46] I'm back. I'm back. I'm back.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:47] Welcome back, Marty.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:49] Marty, your school is over. I'm excited.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:52] School's out.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:53] You know what I mean? Summertime. You feel me? Will Smith, Bad Boy Smith.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:57] Exactly. I do like the summertime. We ain't got to take the kids to school.

Marty - Episode 68:
[2:01] You feel me?

Leer - Episode 68:
[2:02] I like that shit.

Marty - Episode 68:
[2:03] Parenting life, dog.

Matt - Episode 68:
[2:04] Is everybody's weekend?

Marty - Episode 68:
[2:06] Yeah, yeah. The weekend, bro. Let's get to the weekend, man.

Leer - Episode 68:
[2:08] Okay. You know I finished Invincible?

Matt - Episode 68:
[2:10] Oh, you did?

Leer - Episode 68:
[2:11] Nice.

Matt - Episode 68:
[2:12] How'd you like it that.

Persia - Episode 68:
[2:12] Shit was good okay i preferred watching it all at once all at once instead of broken up into a fucking year for four episodes pull.

Matt - Episode 68:
[2:21] Your mic a little bit.

Persia - Episode 68:
[2:22] Don't tell me what to do okay i'm sorry he's hurting already he's team drake uh i'm not team nothing i'm team whoever has the better record all right so here we go so no we're not getting into that but i did watch invincible and i liked it a lot and i could see what you were saying and you know what But...
I will say this, though. It made me realize something.

Leer - Episode 68:
[2:45] What's up?

Persia - Episode 68:
[2:46] Another one of my least favorite fucking tropes is the hero that won't kill trope.
Some niggas need to die.

Leer - Episode 68:
[2:55] Some niggas need to die.

Persia - Episode 68:
[2:56] It is what it is.

Matt - Episode 68:
[2:57] I would say that's the main thing they're going for is to play on that trope.

Persia - Episode 68:
[3:03] Yes, bro, because that trope is weak as fuck.

Leer - Episode 68:
[3:05] So who do you think should have died? Who do you think he should have got rid of right then and there?

Matt - Episode 68:
[3:09] No, I think he just means in general. Just that trope in general.

Persia - Episode 68:
[3:12] General i hate because that's what because there's always scenarios like that but angstrom angstrom levy did need to die in that situation there was no coming back for that nigga like there was no time to rehabilitate him just.

Leer - Episode 68:
[3:24] Quick on that real quick my bad is that me and matt when me and matt had the reaction video we were talking about like you know he was pushed to that that limit because like he's seen thousands of versions of him die like to invincible so yeah every version of this nigga is bad he just so happened to come.

Persia - Episode 68:
[3:41] Well yeah because yeah yeah well i i think i don't know if you're you're making the same point but it was because he had multiple different versions of himself inside of his brain yeah so he was those were his actual memories he couldn't separate which one was the original him versus which one was the other hymns so i was like bro like like that.

Leer - Episode 68:
[4:03] Shirt is getting on my nerves.

Persia - Episode 68:
[4:04] My shirt i.

Leer - Episode 68:
[4:06] Wanted to wear it.

Persia - Episode 68:
[4:06] Come on Keep it going So we, almost got off track so so that trope bothers me especially because when you think i think it's just because like maybe it's the philosophical part of me or like the realist part of me but do you understand how much stronger you have to be than the person you were fighting to not kill them oh of course like you have to be exponentially strong like like bro like if you're fighting to the death with someone who you're equally matched with or maybe they're a little stronger than you your best option is to kill them because you you don't have the power to be able to restrain them or stop them from what they're doing like you have to find your opportunity to win and that would mean death or knocking them out like i mean maybe you could could knock him out but in a situation with a super villain the nigga's not just gonna stop because you knocked him out like that man.

Leer - Episode 68:
[5:17] Of steel shit when he snapped his neck.

Persia - Episode 68:
[5:18] Like bro imagine imagine batman imagine arkham if batman just killed joker, yo if batman started killing niggas that symbol would have a whole nother meaning bro yo like remember fucking uh in in robert pattinson's batman where he showed up and And all them little juggalos was like, all the juggalos was like, who the fuck are you?
And he beat the fucking brakes off one of the niggas. And they ran.
If he would have killed that nigga right there, everybody in Arkham would have known. They niggas would have moved to Detroit.
It would have been a game changer, bro. But yeah, I realize that trope doesn't,

Persia - Episode 68:
[5:57] I don't like that trope at all.

Marty - Episode 68:
[5:58] They made a movie like that as Joker.

Leer - Episode 68:
[6:08] The joker.

Persia - Episode 68:
[6:09] Was always down to ice a nigga though.

Leer - Episode 68:
[6:11] Yeah i'll fuck with that but uh how how was your week with me yeah.

Marty - Episode 68:
[6:14] Uh the baby shower i had that that was cool you pulled up man yeah a little persian on the way man so uh i'm happy about that so no that was cool bro but no we had the baby shower was fun bro uh just being outside i'm I'm always working and shit, so it was good to be outside and just being able to let loose.

Leer - Episode 68:
[6:34] So you weren't working during the baby shower, right? You was just all- No.

Marty - Episode 68:
[6:36] I was just chilling, bro. I was chilling back, man. I mean, I had to put a little charcuterie board together and shit, but other than that, no, I ain't really.

Leer - Episode 68:
[6:41] Bro, somebody told me what a charcuterie- Somebody told me what a charcuterie board was this weekend.

Persia - Episode 68:
[6:46] I thought they meant- Did you say charcuterie?

Matt - Episode 68:
[6:47] He did. He did just say that.

Leer - Episode 68:
[6:50] Sorry.

Matt - Episode 68:
[6:50] You did that shit on purpose.

Persia - Episode 68:
[6:52] You did that shit on purpose.

Matt - Episode 68:
[6:53] No, I don't know. Listen.

Leer - Episode 68:
[6:55] Come on. I didn't know what it meant. I didn't know what it meant.
so i thought it was like a ouija board you.

Marty - Episode 68:
[7:01] Know cool me i.

Leer - Episode 68:
[7:02] Know what cool me i thought it was a you called him.

Matt - Episode 68:
[7:15] Out for saying that but he still thought that's how you said it.

Leer - Episode 68:
[7:17] He kept.

Matt - Episode 68:
[7:18] Going he's like.

Leer - Episode 68:
[7:18] Yeah what do you mean the s board i thought it was like a ouija board i didn't know it was like a like a um a food plate a food plate i swear to god i didn't know okay He was.

Wes Episode 68:
[7:27] Calling Salma Hayek Sirma Herrick I.

Leer - Episode 68:
[7:31] Still call Wakanda Phoenix Wakanda Phoenix Joaquin.

Persia - Episode 68:
[7:36] It's two syllables.

Leer - Episode 68:
[7:37] Joaquin And I know.

Persia - Episode 68:
[7:39] You know how to say it Oh my god.

Leer - Episode 68:
[7:42] Oh my.

Matt - Episode 68:
[7:45] God That's how my dad would like mispronounce stuff Hey.

Marty - Episode 68:
[7:51] Lear I was your weekend bro.

Leer - Episode 68:
[7:53] Alright it was it was alright man Friday was cool and everything Saturday, uh we my lady went to splatter painting and i won yeah so splatter painting yeah what's.

Matt - Episode 68:
[8:06] That how you win this splatter pain bro.

Leer - Episode 68:
[8:08] Is that just one i had the best image tune yeah the best we have to have the most yeah the best painting oh.

Marty - Episode 68:
[8:13] So the best paint who vote.

Leer - Episode 68:
[8:15] Yeah where you do that so proclaimed where you do that so you just you just.

Matt - Episode 68:
[8:21] Got there and said i took that.

Leer - Episode 68:
[8:22] Bro it was bro it's 63 dollars per person we got done in 30 in 20 minutes are you serious yeah i started we We started painting each other because we was like, I mean, but that was wrong. Y'all freaky. Yeah.

Marty - Episode 68:
[8:32] Because y'all freaky. That's why y'all started painting each other.

Leer - Episode 68:
[8:35] That's why I started painting that ass. No kid that we didn't.
No, but no, then she took me to a sushi place and shit. Fucking, the sushi was good. Called Inyo. Inyo Sushi in Ferngate.

Persia - Episode 68:
[8:48] Oh, yeah, I know.

Marty - Episode 68:
[8:49] Inyo B, bro.

Leer - Episode 68:
[8:49] But what happened was I ended up getting food poisoning from it.
And I couldn't go to my boy baby shower because I couldn't get off the toilet.
you ain't.

Marty - Episode 68:
[9:00] Even get the swamper out sick sick having a ball.

Leer - Episode 68:
[9:07] Of the day he's like oh yeah when i get to the crib exactly i'm gonna finish this fall out and swamp you that would have been.

Matt - Episode 68:
[9:14] A disgusting ass swamp, it was not swampy.

Leer - Episode 68:
[9:25] Okay there you go i'm sorry it.

Matt - Episode 68:
[9:27] Was it was all right weekend.

Leer - Episode 68:
[9:27] Yeah same.

Matt - Episode 68:
[9:28] Old shit i uh finished fallout though.

Leer - Episode 68:
[9:31] Yeah fallout made music i did

Leer - Episode 68:
[9:36] make music over the weekend too nice yeah i heard it yep i have heard it.

Persia - Episode 68:
[9:40] It's amazing good good little fucking flow switch up on that bitch bro.

Leer - Episode 68:
[9:44] Thank you bro yeah that's yeah that's j cole made me mad i have to get in the booth this nigga gonna.

Marty - Episode 68:
[9:48] Take a shot at j cole.

Leer - Episode 68:
[9:50] Early this nigga nah that's.

Matt - Episode 68:
[9:53] What i was saying we all got to make this trash.

Leer - Episode 68:
[9:55] Just do.

Persia - Episode 68:
[9:56] It yeah just.

Matt - Episode 68:
[9:57] Fucking do it.

Persia - Episode 68:
[9:58] Let's talk about uh let's talk about fallout though how is it.

Leer - Episode 68:
[10:01] Phenomenal bro i.

Persia - Episode 68:
[10:03] Don't even know what is fallout.

Leer - Episode 68:
[10:04] Fallout is basically like a new it's like an apocalypse after apocalypse show it's like after an apocalypse post apocalypse that's how it's okay post-apocalyptic show and And it's just following the people who survived the blast.

Persia - Episode 68:
[10:20] They stayed underground?

Matt - Episode 68:
[10:21] Yes. It's like...

Persia - Episode 68:
[10:23] Oh, they had bunkers.

Matt - Episode 68:
[10:24] Yeah, the vaults.

Leer - Episode 68:
[10:25] The rich had bunkers.

Wes Episode 68:
[10:28] So they had vaults that were owned by a company called Vault Tech.
And they had people buy rooms in their vaults. They built over 100 vaults throughout the United States.
And they had people buy them. like they were doing advertising to make people like, careful because it was nuclear like that yeah the context it was the feeling of the cold it was during the cold war it wasn't during the cold war it was in well 21 you're right like it was in it was in the future but in this war yeah it was like the cold war they had like everything was 50 style but futuristic like they never like i read that in that it's an alternate reality to where they They didn't develop past analog TVs, but they developed a whole lot of other things, but they never found out the thing to push this into HD.
So it's all analog stuff, but with futuristic everything else.

Matt - Episode 68:
[11:25] Think of OG Star Wars.

Wes Episode 68:
[11:27] 50s cars that are hover cars.

Marty - Episode 68:
[11:30] I ain't going to lie, man. I think I like this West Mike shit. It's hard.

Persia - Episode 68:
[11:36] I forgot. I was going to bring the thing down so we could set it.
We could put you on the camera.

Wes Episode 68:
[11:42] Oh, shit. I forgot.

Persia - Episode 68:
[11:43] I'll bring it down next time.

Wes Episode 68:
[11:44] Yeah, so it's kind of got a lot of...

Persia - Episode 68:
[11:47] I'm not going to lie, bro.

Leer - Episode 68:
[11:49] Go ahead.

Persia - Episode 68:
[11:49] If you figured out how to make hover cars and you didn't figure out how to make an HDTV, go back down.

Marty - Episode 68:
[11:55] Yeah, for real, man.

Wes Episode 68:
[11:56] Go back down. But I feel like that's because they wanted to keep the 50s aesthetic, but they wanted the technology that these people had after the fallout happened.

Matt - Episode 68:
[12:08] It's like a play.

Wes Episode 68:
[12:08] Like they wanted it to look 50s but still have advanced technology it's a plan extreme capitalism like wanting to keep.

Matt - Episode 68:
[12:17] Us bare bones as possible while advancing in all the convenience of like technical militarized okay militarized.

Wes Episode 68:
[12:26] Yeah those the company that had all these vaults they a bunch of like basically billionaires that controlled the world did different things in each vault, it was all experimentation, to see how they could control people, like put them in different controlled environments.
And then in the future, they let them out. Not everyone got out, a lot of people were frozen and stuff like that, but the feel of it is Mad Max, with a little bit a little bit more technology okay.

Leer - Episode 68:
[12:58] Like a sci-fi.

Matt - Episode 68:
[12:59] More civilization you're.

Wes Episode 68:
[13:00] Talking you're talking about the show well the show was kind of all out in general.

Matt - Episode 68:
[13:04] So the fallout show what makes it honestly i could say this with full confidence the best live action adaptation of a video game i've ever seen because no luck it genuinely just takes what the game is the core concept of everything and they just you just follow the story it's.

Marty - Episode 68:
[13:20] Better than the last of us that was just about that.

Matt - Episode 68:
[13:22] Well see now here's what makes it at least so i didn't play the last of us before i watched last of us but then when i watched last of us i have a lot of friends that played that game and they were all pretty much like you don't really have to play it you get the gist of it from watching the show yeah now fallout that is a game that is an rpg if you guys played skyrim before or just the game where you just you have a main story but you do side quest level you just do whatever the fuck you want so in fallout 4 um it was pretty much just that there's one main story but then the rest is just up to you and how you explore and do shit so with the show it's like okay so what we're just going to do is we'll get that main story started like exactly how we're not exactly like how it is involved for but like in similar fashion to get the protagonist out of the vault and then from there she just has that her one main quest and as she goes and does it random bullshit happens and then she gets sidetracked and has to go do that go do that so So it feels like a video game

Matt - Episode 68:
[14:17] and they're keeping true to the elements.
And now they did absolutely everything. The set, the music, the attention to details, the sound effects, all straight from the video game.
Every single thing is straight from the video game.
And it's so it feels like they're finally you're watching like a cut scene.
You're finally learning.

Marty - Episode 68:
[14:36] So so so acting wise, do you put it on par with Last of Us?

Leer - Episode 68:
[14:40] Um, I would.

Matt - Episode 68:
[14:42] So I will too, but the thing is about Fallout is the entire setting of Fallout, again, is extreme capitalism. It's meant to be a satire.
they're they're really advanced but they're still stuck in their old ways like they're still like really like how old people are in the 1950s racist yeah exactly well and i'll.

Leer - Episode 68:
[15:07] Also say like with last of us the set the settings are different segregation.

Matt - Episode 68:
[15:11] And like and also.

Marty - Episode 68:
[15:12] Like the blacks and white can't eat the same spot.

Matt - Episode 68:
[15:15] In the.

Leer - Episode 68:
[15:16] Last of us storyline.

Matt - Episode 68:
[15:17] The fallout storyline.

Leer - Episode 68:
[15:18] There's really no like like humor or satire in last.

Matt - Episode 68:
[15:22] Exactly it's all like yeah depressing and serious it's so i mean.

Leer - Episode 68:
[15:26] It's every like now and then it's like some jokes and everything but like we'll last to be nice but we'll fall out even the whole game aesthetic is just like it's not too.

Matt - Episode 68:
[15:34] Serious it can be serious but it's not very very bare bones like even the stuff that's taken seriously is is like a, exaggeration of a satire or something it's like the an example would be the brotherhood of steel they are the staple military of the whole wasteland and they are all like bare bones beat them up type people like fucking anybody that's on the enemy side don't say a word just shoot them like some hell diver shit like they're just like we gotta we are the only soul protectors of this land and we gotta fight for our brothers they're just hardcore about it and they're like not like hiding it and it's funny like they also.

Wes Episode 68:
[16:13] Have some they have some of the most advanced technology amongst like everybody else is kind of.

Matt - Episode 68:
[16:20] Like yeah that's another thing too that's.

Wes Episode 68:
[16:21] My boy they call them wastelanders like you pretty much are just trying to find shelter the best way you can there's raiders like coming to rob every single person and torture and kill them people eat people there's also when you watch the show like it it stays true to like the game in a sense of like you have usually every time you have a conversation with somebody you have four choices.
There's usually like the person who's like trying to be nice and be everybody's friend and kind of oblivious to like things.
That's one path you can take. You can take the path of being super sarcastic and then you can take the path of just.

Leer - Episode 68:
[17:02] I just want to do.

Wes Episode 68:
[17:03] Badass as fuck and just like playing by your own rules so the main character is a vault dweller who comes out and is really like naive about how the world is and she's trying to befriend everybody she meets and make no enemies and stuff like that and that doesn't really work and you see that with her character and she learns that by the end favorite uh celebrity like as you're playing the game you get uh you.

Leer - Episode 68:
[17:26] Know she's british.

Wes Episode 68:
[17:27] You get companions so random Random people will become your companion.
There's specific people that can become your companion, but they usually have a different personality from you, but they help you out a lot.
And there's two people that you follow the story of in the show, and they each have their own personality different.
They would choose their words differently than she would.

Leer - Episode 68:
[17:50] There's three people. It's the ghoul, Maximus, and Lucy.

Wes Episode 68:
[17:55] Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Two companions, two her.

Leer - Episode 68:
[17:57] Oh, yeah.

Wes Episode 68:
[17:58] So Maximus is kind of like, he becomes a rogue Brotherhood of Steel person.
And he's kind of sarcastic and like.

Matt - Episode 68:
[18:06] Dude, he's so funny.

Wes Episode 68:
[18:08] Standoffish.

Matt - Episode 68:
[18:08] Dude, he's so funny.

Wes Episode 68:
[18:09] And then there's the ghoul. So ghouls are people that have been exposed to high radiation and they get special powers from it, but they look fucked up.

Leer - Episode 68:
[18:19] He's been alive since the bomb dropped. That was 200 years ago.
They've been in that vault for 200 plus years.

Wes Episode 68:
[18:26] But he's been out in the wasteland. Like he uses, like there's different medications that you can use.
And he uses a thing called Radaway because if you, once you become a ghoul, eventually you become a feral ghoul and you become very animalistic and you don't have, you don't have reason anymore.
Kind of like in most zombie movies, how zombies are.
But if you take Radaway, it kind of keeps you human while looking like a ghoul.
okay so that's how he stayed alive is by right away because they they they're it's kind of like deadpool like they heal themselves so that's how a ghoul is they.

Leer - Episode 68:
[19:06] Ever generated yeah they do but.

Wes Episode 68:
[19:07] The ghoul is the badass that doesn't give a fuck and he's doing whatever the fuck he wants and those are the two people that come together with her at the end well.

Leer - Episode 68:
[19:14] He's trying to find his family.

Wes Episode 68:
[19:15] He's trying to yeah he has his own story everybody has their own story of going through the wasteland Why.

Matt - Episode 68:
[19:20] For me it's like to compare to The Last of Us and why I.

Wes Episode 68:
[19:24] Think it's the best video.

Matt - Episode 68:
[19:24] Game adaptation is like Wes was saying where The Last of Us it's very very serious so the acting in that is like superb to what it's supposed to be the little humor elements are really good while Fallout kind of a satire.

Matt - Episode 68:
[19:39] Somebody that's played fallout when i was watching the show there wasn't a single time where i'm like oh yeah i remember like going through this exact scene i remember going through this exact scene but i was like oh i remember doing something similar to that now i want to go play the game to experience that again and then there's the three ways that you play like wes was saying like all three of these characters are actually very different in contrast and like our mindsets of what a player can play like in that game the badass the dude that kind of like just cons his way and makes things work as he can and doesn't have like a morality and then the naive girl that wants to think everything good and just be the best person that she can but then they're learning like they have development as they go on she starts becoming less naive and starts becoming more like all right i gotta like come up to the and actually be like brutal and ruthless and i actually have to like make bad decisions sometimes that isn't like right for everybody so with the last of us though since that tells the exact story you know what's gonna happen like if i played the game, I would know what's going to happen in the show.
And now that I know what's happened in the show, if I were to play the game, it was strictly just because I like video games and I'd want to play it.
No other reason. Maybe just to see what the differences are.
For the Fallout show, though, you show that to somebody that's never played Fallout, and you like that show, you're going to have the best experience ever playing Fallout 4.
Because you're not going to know what's going to happen, but you're going to get what's happening. You're going to be like, oh my god, this is just like in the show.

Matt - Episode 68:
[21:00] Oh, I kind of get it. And then vice versa, where it's like, now I kind of want to go play Fallout to have my own thing. and I know Fallout I know the story but as the show was going on I didn't know anything they had got great twists they actually ended up.

Matt - Episode 68:
[21:13] Implementing politics and drama in a really good way like the whole show is like satirical and there's like comedy to it but when it does get serious in the drama it does a very good job at that so i think people who aren't even into the fallout series would enjoy that show a lot so, there's a lot to offer from it well.

Leer - Episode 68:
[21:32] No maximus whole storyline of him just loving the brotherhood is still and then actually seeing someone who's actually uh who was it titus yeah.

Matt - Episode 68:
[21:40] We're actually seeing.

Leer - Episode 68:
[21:41] A knight and then it ended up being like a asshole and shit who was played by michael rapaport and he literally dies.

Matt - Episode 68:
[21:49] That's like titus that's my yeah really yeah and then uh the main.

Wes Episode 68:
[21:54] Character lucy's brother.

Matt - Episode 68:
[21:56] Is oh my god yes hannah montana rico.

Wes Episode 68:
[21:59] From hannah montana.

Matt - Episode 68:
[22:01] Moses arias it's really funny so when he's in the vault um so his sister goes on the journey whatever her journey is he's.

Wes Episode 68:
[22:10] The fourth he's the fourth man.

Matt - Episode 68:
[22:12] Oh yeah yeah and then um so he stays back at the vault and he has a person that's his cousin that like they're kind of figuring everything out in the vault because there's some secret shady shit going on it's really funny because his cousin's probably like six four six five and he's like five five five four so they're just walking around like completely different contrast of like heights and it's really silly seeing that kind of stuff.

Persia - Episode 68:
[22:34] Yeah, I might watch that.

Leer - Episode 68:
[22:36] It's only eight episodes.

Matt - Episode 68:
[22:37] It's, I think, I would love for you guys to watch and see what you have to say because you guys not, i don't know if i don't know i don't know oh yeah we've already talked about it.

Marty - Episode 68:
[22:46] Impossible dog like i tried.

Matt - Episode 68:
[22:48] Yeah no i think you guys watch that you're gonna be like i want to play.

Leer - Episode 68:
[22:51] It doesn't have the budget of like last of us but it doesn't need it.

Matt - Episode 68:
[22:53] Oh yeah it works that design literally looks straight from the games like as it's showing scenes i'm not like again like oh yeah i remember doing this exact thing in the game but the the environment or this place looks just like something that would be in the game where i'm like oh yeah this feels It's like falling out.

Leer - Episode 68:
[23:11] Yeah, they was throwing like the menu music on some shit. I was like, oh my God.

Matt - Episode 68:
[23:15] Yeah.

Leer - Episode 68:
[23:16] That's dope as fuck. I was geeking out on that shit, son.

Matt - Episode 68:
[23:18] Same.

Marty - Episode 68:
[23:19] Yeah. Speaking of menu music, talking about music music.

Persia - Episode 68:
[23:22] Speaking of fallout.

Marty - Episode 68:
[23:23] Talking about falling out.

Matt - Episode 68:
[23:24] Drake.

Marty - Episode 68:
[23:25] Falling out.

Persia - Episode 68:
[23:25] Drake.

Marty - Episode 68:
[23:25] Future fell out. Drake.

Leer - Episode 68:
[23:26] Drake. Future. Ross. Everybody, bro.

Persia - Episode 68:
[23:30] Weekend.

Marty - Episode 68:
[23:30] Weekend. Weekend was chilling. Right.

Matt - Episode 68:
[23:32] Yeah.

Marty - Episode 68:
[23:33] What the fuck?

Leer - Episode 68:
[23:33] Not getting the fucking Drake and Ross song again. It's going to hurt. It's hurt.

Marty - Episode 68:
[23:38] This is this is an enjoyable uh part of the podcast stuff we get to talk about man let's say let's get to it man fuck it so drake drake drops uh his diss record and then well.

Leer - Episode 68:
[23:48] Hold on let's let's start with kendrick let's start with let's start with.

Persia - Episode 68:
[23:51] Start with no we didn't talk about see i kind of want to so how.

Marty - Episode 68:
[23:56] You want to play this.

Matt - Episode 68:
[23:56] I want to play it where somebody who's ignorant to all of the beef because the past beef does matter it does make.

Persia - Episode 68:
[24:03] A difference.

Matt - Episode 68:
[24:05] Yeah can somebody catch up okay i got you.

Persia - Episode 68:
[24:07] Where the.

Matt - Episode 68:
[24:08] Beef kind of started i.

Marty - Episode 68:
[24:10] Got you well nah yeah but in a sense of like.

Matt - Episode 68:
[24:12] Just the weekend the weekend yeah like how is everybody wrapped up in this like

Matt - Episode 68:
[24:16] how's everybody wrapped up in this because kendrick.

Persia - Episode 68:
[24:18] Didn't just come out of nowhere just be like i'm the best so happen kendrick and drake have been going at it for years like years years but kendrick it also kind of seems like he's he's been a standoffish person because Kendrick was at it with Kendrick was at it one Kendrick is kind of in a lane of his own to begin with he doesn't really like fuck with anyone to begin with but then Kendrick also, was Kendrick was beefing with Big Sean Kendrick was beefing with Drake Kendrick was like he he had some shit going on so but it but it was I think it was really just like an ego thing I think it was a back and forth about who who was the better like he feels like he's the best which is which is fair drake and the weekend have been had shit going on big and that primarily started because the weekend didn't sign to drake and he said he was going to i guess but ironically drake also told um what's my man's name jay prince no uh josh prince no though the white guy he's like eastern european he was at uh i think he was at def jam Def Jam?

Leer - Episode 68:
[25:24] Was he a talent?

Persia - Episode 68:
[25:26] No, he was like the CEO or the president.

Leer - Episode 68:
[25:29] Def Jam? Lucian Green? I think...

Wes Episode 68:
[25:33] You're talking fucking...

Persia - Episode 68:
[25:37] It starts with it starts it's a lucian green it's not lucian it's not green, he started i cannot think of this i cannot think of his name right now lupe fiasco did a video yeah so he he told leora that he was gonna sign to him and didn't sign to him so he didn't fuck with him anymore yes he did make 360 deals so so it was ironic it was the same thing and then i don't know what happened with drake and future that's the freshest one drake and drake and ross went back and forth a few times like drake and drake and ross have gotten into it a few times yeah and drake and asap i think they fell fell out they fucked the same girl rihanna no.

Leer - Episode 68:
[26:24] They They fucked Drake's baby mama, Rihanna. I mean, not Rihanna.

Persia - Episode 68:
[26:28] Oh, my God.

Leer - Episode 68:
[26:28] A$AP Rocky and all that other shit.

Persia - Episode 68:
[26:30] Nigga, so what? You didn't give a fuck about her?

Leer - Episode 68:
[26:32] Nobody give a fuck.

Persia - Episode 68:
[26:33] So those are like all the little stems. So with the recent shit, it started with Future. Future dissed him first.
Future came.

Leer - Episode 68:
[26:43] Hold on, bro. You leaving on Metro? You leaving on Metro?

Persia - Episode 68:
[26:45] I don't even know what happened with Metro.

Leer - Episode 68:
[26:47] Okay, Drake and Metro have not seen eye to eye. And Metro is on the side of Future, 21, Weekend.
These people are all working together, entwined together.
So people have to pick sides when people aren't singing eye to eye.
So that's where you pick up at.

Persia - Episode 68:
[27:05] Okay, so Future dissed Drake on the first song of the album. And he said...
he was saying he was taking shots at him basically he said like you was a nigga's number one fan um, like he started going off on him a little bit and then he kind of went off on a tangent and then kendrick was on the same on the same album and kendrick was going directly at drake and then they did the deluxe version of the album or the second part of the album him yep and the weekend was going at drake and asap was going at drake and then i don't know where at what point ross came in he.

Leer - Episode 68:
[27:47] Was in the he was in he was on the first album.

Persia - Episode 68:
[27:49] I know but i didn't hear him say anything about him uh.

Leer - Episode 68:
[27:52] I gotta hear that verse again.

Persia - Episode 68:
[27:54] I don't know what he said about or maybe he just posted something or something for drake to think that he was coming into the and coming into the mix drake or rick ross said that he he even came into it because, drake sent to cease and desist to french montana yeah about the which is weird but so so all of that shit happened all these niggas came at drake in a week and funny and then drake came back at them niggas bro like it.

Wes Episode 68:
[28:24] Was stretched out to three weeks because once.

Persia - Episode 68:
[28:26] The second one yeah yeah once the second part.

Wes Episode 68:
[28:29] Dropped is when everybody else got into it and then drake came out.

Persia - Episode 68:
[28:33] Yeah yeah so so now what.

Matt - Episode 68:
[28:36] Is exactly the beef like when they're coming at him i know already kendrick i know like how he was coming at him just pretty much saying i'm the best fuck off how were the others coming at him though.

Persia - Episode 68:
[28:48] Future was coming at him like like it was he was insinuating that he that drake was fake like drake switched up on him okay and then um asap was calling him out I know about what he said the weekend was basically clowning him in the same way that like Drake was clowning the weekend where he was saying that like, the weekend said something about how like thank god like you got you got holes in your ship over over that way and thank god that i didn't ever join you guys and he said that like you're fucking the the nigga you call your shooter makes tiktoks and the weekend said this to drake um that shit was funny and like so he was just going he was going at him and then um i don't know if french montana did anything and then i don't i don't know that.

Leer - Episode 68:
[29:40] Splash brother song he did have a little words for him but like he didn't say his name like he didn't directly aim it out.

Persia - Episode 68:
[29:45] Yeah but.

Leer - Episode 68:
[29:46] Like people went back and listened to it it's like.

Persia - Episode 68:
[29:48] Yeah but like rick so and then rick ross ended up making a song after um drake had dropped after drake had dropped okay and um i remember seeing some shit about uh metro just tweeting shit and i think that was i think that was it but like yeah everyone's just saying shit about about him and then he just came back and um oh and then though and then he he just that fucking what's that one basketball player with the dread uh john moran john moran he dissed him too oh kind of he said like bro a lot of this stuff stems over.

Leer - Episode 68:
[30:22] Women a lot of this stuff stems over women i think it's.

Marty - Episode 68:
[30:24] More ego i was.

Persia - Episode 68:
[30:25] That goes into women yeah that's.

Marty - Episode 68:
[30:28] What i was about to get into first like my take on this whole fucking thing bro is that this is probably like the most corniest uh rap beef that i've witnessed in my fucking life outside.

Persia - Episode 68:
[30:40] Of Kendrick and Drake the.

Marty - Episode 68:
[30:44] Whole thing so alright, And this might sound crazy, too, that when you're having a beef, bro, I need some type of element of danger.
There's no element of danger.

Leer - Episode 68:
[30:57] That's why J. Cole left.

Marty - Episode 68:
[30:58] Well, that's why he agreed that it's corny because all of this shit is like they really fuck with each other.
So it's like friendly beef. And it's like they fucking the same hoes.

Leer - Episode 68:
[31:07] He just agreed that I'm not doing it.

Marty - Episode 68:
[31:09] Because it's corny, though. It's corny for him. It's just corny in general because it's like y'all literally getting into it over hoes, bro.
And then y'all spilling each other business like bitches.
It's weird, bro. Like, oh, you did this. You got liposuction.
Or you 5'2". And bro, what? What are you talking about? Y'all sound like some hoes, bro.
And it's like, 150, because I had to go listen to Piggy Bank, and I was like, no, this had an element of danger where I was like, okay, well, then they come in the room, something might happen.

Leer - Episode 68:
[31:37] But that's when New York niggas was crazy.

Persia - Episode 68:
[31:38] That's what we were talking about on the call, though, because, like, that's why I was saying that shit before. That's why I was defending J.

Leer - Episode 68:
[31:44] Cole, apologizing. But that was before the other niggas jumped in.
Because the Drake and Kendrick thing is over.
You got to remember, it's over the control verse. It's not over no blood, no what's new.

Matt - Episode 68:
[31:55] What did he say on the control verse?

Leer - Episode 68:
[31:56] He called out Drake. He called out Jermaine Cole, Drake, Meek Mill, Big K.R.I.T., Lupe Fiasco, Mac Miller.
It was like two more people. But Drake had an interview saying, bro, that's corny.
If you're going to call us out, really be behind it on some beef stuff.
but it wasn't that deep it's not it wasn't it wasn't it was just over well with j cole drake and kendrick before all this other stuff with bitches and all that other stuff them niggas from what j cole's standpoint was on first in person shooter is them niggas are the big three regarding as in record sales acclaim and just fan bases those three are the big three Now, when it comes to those three, that's something completely different from what Ross, Future, and all them other niggas are saying. Because I understand that shit is corny over bitches.

Marty - Episode 68:
[32:46] It's corny. You arguing over hoes, and that shit a man's in them, bro. Like, we're Ross, and you 50, and y'all spilling each other's tea.

Matt - Episode 68:
[32:52] Y'all spilling tea, bro.

Marty - Episode 68:
[32:53] Like, that shit is weird, and that's how y'all beefing, bro.

Persia - Episode 68:
[32:56] I think that Ross and Drake actually might have fallen out.

Marty - Episode 68:
[33:00] Over some hoes.

Persia - Episode 68:
[33:00] No no separate from that because ross ross said that he he fell out with him because ross has always been close with french montana and french mont for whatever reason drake yeah i don't know what drake sent to cease and desist to to to every time that ross has beef with drake it was because drake did something to someone that ross is closer to like when he was he was beefing yeah he was beat when when when drake was beefing with meek ross was on meek side and meek And Ross dissed Drake then. Like, he said that shit.

Marty - Episode 68:
[33:32] But I think Drake and Ross never really fucked with each other.
They fucked with each other on some industry shit.
But it'd be like, because they was fucking each other hoes. So it's like me, like you say, man, you in the industry, we rock with each other.
We make music together and shit like that.
But like, when you leave, I throw him like, man, I don't really fuck with his ass.

Leer - Episode 68:
[33:47] But we can get money. Now that you do bring that up, I do remember fucking, I'm sorry, I gotta say her name, Lear Galore was Ross's, he was engaged to her.

Marty - Episode 68:
[33:57] And Drake came and knocked her down by like Drake the Lord was.

Persia - Episode 68:
[34:02] Fucking Justin Bieber before Ross.

Marty - Episode 68:
[34:04] No no but Drake is like notorious for like fucking other people bitches that's how he get at everybody you know what I mean so like while I'm.

Leer - Episode 68:
[34:10] Engaged like while I'm like engaged or like when I'm like.

Marty - Episode 68:
[34:13] When you listen to Ross verse in his little clapback where he's like, outside of what you have said as far as the french he like uh oh man you you dm in my bitches like they like.

Persia - Episode 68:
[34:26] You know you know what i mean like they play like that like they really didn't say that he said that he said that i might take your newest girl and cover that's that's what drake that's.

Marty - Episode 68:
[34:34] What rich niggas play around they fuck each other up like they play too much like you know i mean so like they've been doing that shit and they play cool you feel me and.

Persia - Episode 68:
[34:42] That's up but that is i know niggas like that in real life but like that is that is drake's thing which i think that is corny that is very corny i think that's lame that's some fuck he tries to go after like like niggas everybody knows the like the three areas where men will fucking like kill or die over is fucking like just pride in general yeah women and money like like bro and then so the nigga with the most money is trying to fuck your girl and hurt your pride and he's very and then like Like, from everything I've ever seen about him, he's very strategic.
Like, he thinks this shit out. He tries. He intentionally tries to get you in those areas.

Leer - Episode 68:
[35:25] Well, staying on that point where we were saying about the Family Ties thing is what Baby King said literally right before the song went off.
You kind of ended it right before he said it.
It's number two DM in my bitch. Who's number two?

Matt - Episode 68:
[35:35] Who's number two in the kitchen? Oh, yeah, you're right. Drake.

Leer - Episode 68:
[35:37] DM in my bitch. Yeah, exactly. So it's like.

Marty - Episode 68:
[35:39] That's how he play, man.

Leer - Episode 68:
[35:40] That's how that nigga play sometimes. But regarding the lyricism between the other three, I mean, when we had that talk, I was only talking as far as disc records, as far as music.
Now, when it came out that them niggas was, the other niggas was arguing about bitches, I think that shit is corny. Because y'all got enough money to get any.

Matt - Episode 68:
[36:00] I agree.

Leer - Episode 68:
[36:01] Yeah, any type of girl. But when it regards to your wife, no.

Persia - Episode 68:
[36:06] What did he say about your wife?

Leer - Episode 68:
[36:08] Bro, he said, well, it's double entendre, bro. because Kendrick's wife is named Whitney.

Persia - Episode 68:
[36:14] Yeah.

Leer - Episode 68:
[36:14] And, he said like i'm gonna be uh i'm gonna be with whitney like bodyguards back in the day it was a movie oh yeah yeah but jake gotta learn from this because last time he mentioned somebody's wife pusha t came out of that exactly yeah.

Marty - Episode 68:
[36:28] And and i think sonically arts not to the disses whatever even the sound of the disc they cool they don't sound like like some memorable shit like yeah i mean outside of like kendrick's verse like just sound wise i'm like kendrick's verse when he first came out it was memorable it's a top record out right now i'm like this sounds good like even when ross i heard ross shit i'm like i didn't like this shit i thought it was dope like i thought he was more i thought he was more lyrical like when he flipped it he flipped it though like his rhyme was no he did he did in two hours and i think he's i think he rhymed better than drake because i think drake was more on some like of a lazy pattern but he was just getting shit out like but it wasn't nothing like i think it's the whole the whole body of work was cool but i don't think he did anything lyrical or anything that to make me feel like oh he beat this person he just spilled tea just.

Matt - Episode 68:
[37:20] Like with j cole one that's how i felt with jay but i mean.

Marty - Episode 68:
[37:22] That's what pusha.

Matt - Episode 68:
[37:23] T did no but pusha t like he spilled the ultimate tea.

Marty - Episode 68:
[37:27] What did that.

Leer - Episode 68:
[37:30] Nigga say about drake.

Persia - Episode 68:
[37:32] On that about drake on that song.

Leer - Episode 68:
[37:34] You trying to dress your dad up as steve harvey that's.

Persia - Episode 68:
[37:38] Some goofy shit.

Leer - Episode 68:
[37:39] That your dad look goofy doing that's some goofy.

Persia - Episode 68:
[37:41] Shit his dad is fucking 70.

Leer - Episode 68:
[37:43] That's the what that's what made it funny he said he's a fucking he said your

Leer - Episode 68:
[37:49] mom always gonna come up second nigga like he said some hurtful shit yeah i don't.

Matt - Episode 68:
[37:54] Know the exact quote for quote but he was also talking about.

Leer - Episode 68:
[37:56] How he was.

Matt - Episode 68:
[37:57] Just a nerdy kid on this.

Leer - Episode 68:
[37:59] Show in the industry and.

Matt - Episode 68:
[38:00] Then came up and then.

Marty - Episode 68:
[38:01] Like This is what I'm saying.

Persia - Episode 68:
[38:04] The blackface thing was crazy.

Leer - Episode 68:
[38:06] That was the tallest thing. Nobody ever had that picture before.

Persia - Episode 68:
[38:09] Look, look, look.

Marty - Episode 68:
[38:09] The delivery.

Persia - Episode 68:
[38:09] So this is why I'm saying that.

Leer - Episode 68:
[38:13] Okay.

Persia - Episode 68:
[38:14] Because Wes said this. Marty said it.
You guys are kind of like, if you are talking about a diss track, all that a nigga can do on a diss track is either insult you or threaten you or expose you.
He can insult you, threaten you, or expose you.
He's gonna say he's gonna do something, he's gonna insult you like a joke, like flame you, or he's going to expose you like Pusha T did.
so to me any type of insult is an insult to me like it doesn't matter like you i don't think what is a good insult like a nigga like drake like fucking pusha t says like your hair.

Matt - Episode 68:
[38:58] Wouldn't happen.

Persia - Episode 68:
[38:59] Enough okay but it's not okay for drake to call kendrick short like.

Matt - Episode 68:
[39:02] No no no no real quick to interject on that to me it's not who has the best insult and now this it's it's a distract it's meant to be what's the most disrespectful what is somebody saying that will make that person's character be like oh like when that diss track came out that push a t with drake everybody was like looking at drake like we're like oh drake dude what the fuck which is and then but then when this that's why like even what marty said i agree with him how this beef week, all's kendrick said was i'm the best one and then like called out drake's last album that was it That's all he said But.

Persia - Episode 68:
[39:43] That's what I'm saying In terms of what has been dropped recently I don't give a fuck what any of y'all niggas say Drake's was the best of the three.

Matt - Episode 68:
[39:51] But why?

Persia - Episode 68:
[39:53] What did Kendrick do in that 10 seconds That was better than that 3 minutes from Drake I.

Wes Episode 68:
[40:01] Didn't take it as a full diss I took it as a let's rap.

Persia - Episode 68:
[40:04] It don't matter, If I punch you, If I punch you and I jab you just to get you to punch me, and then you knock my fucking teeth out, and then I don't say anything.

Leer - Episode 68:
[40:16] No, but what if he does come out with a response?

Persia - Episode 68:
[40:18] If he comes out with a response.

Leer - Episode 68:
[40:19] Then we'll come back and do it.

Persia - Episode 68:
[40:20] That would balance it back out. But at the time of this recording, Drake's was the best.

Marty - Episode 68:
[40:26] I think that Ross's was the best. And not always.
Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. I'll let you politic. the only reason i say that is because a level of credibility will trump any of that shit that's going on so if i believe the things that's coming out of your mouth then i'm like wait a minute it's a level of credibility when ross is saying i'm looking you in your eyes bro and you are a bitch bro and you won't do it and i said on state scheming and i got more money than you and we can validate that and you getting checks from another person so you're and then you're playing and recordings it's a level of credibility that comes with ross that's when 150 he wasn't the best rapper he had a level of credibility behind his words where i'm like oh he might do something when drake says go beat some fucking drums nigga i'm like you sound as hell but it sounded soft though like like so when you say you five two and all of that so in rap and hip-hop it is a element of danger so if i'm listening to the rhymes and a person is a bully for real and i know if they got in the same room with each other you know i mean and something will go crazy and i I could hear it in the music. I'm like, eh.
Because Drake didn't, when Back to Back came out, it sounded crazy, right?
It was like, they would have been on the radio waves, bro. So, like, Drake, he leaks a record.
And then Ross, less than 24 hours comes out and says, bro, you ain't even standing on shit. I'm going to stand on shit.
And I'm going to talk about how you called the cops. And I'm going to say you got liposuction.
I think that liposuction shit was the craziest shit I heard.
That you got a man got liposuction?

Persia - Episode 68:
[41:56] That is crazy. the reason why i'm saying it's lame like that is what is lame to me because that is like to me i'm kind of going in the opposite direction with ross's shit because ross's shit was so fucking like like he said this nigga got liposuction he called the nigga like white like why are you being racist like this nigga is not white but you like you know okay you know this nigga's not but you but you know but you started.

Marty - Episode 68:
[42:21] You you started the whole thing saying we can't judge the the insult it's just an insult yeah so.

Persia - Episode 68:
[42:27] Yeah but like by your rules he wasn't even rapping really like he's just like bro first of all i'm not trying to hear no fucking violin on a district i predicted don't come on the district like maybach music i predicted.

Marty - Episode 68:
[42:43] This on stage scheming that shit was crazy i predicted this shit on stage scheming like which said like Like, I predicted this on State Scheme years ago.
Like, that was a crazy line, bro. That is dope.

Persia - Episode 68:
[42:56] Listen, I respect Rick Ross's position because Rick Ross is like... Rick Ross is Rick Ross.
You can't... Like, Rick Ross is in a... He's not... I don't think he's in that lane, but he's...
You know what I'm saying? You can't really put him with anybody, but he's up there. Especially when you go back and listen to his catalog and shit like that.

Wes Episode 68:
[43:14] He's got the best catalog.

Persia - Episode 68:
[43:16] Untouchable. Bro, nobody makes sounds like that. You know what I'm saying?

Leer - Episode 68:
[43:19] That production is fire.

Persia - Episode 68:
[43:20] The production was fucking phenomenal. I don't want to hear that production on no fucking diss song. I want to hear Holy Ghost type.

Leer - Episode 68:
[43:27] Have you ever heard Idols vs. Idols Turn to Rivals?

Persia - Episode 68:
[43:29] Yeah.

Leer - Episode 68:
[43:31] That diss track, To Birdman, very fucking good.

Marty - Episode 68:
[43:35] Bro, it sounds gangster. It sounds like I'm smoking a cigar.

Matt - Episode 68:
[43:37] In the Drake diss track, the Drake diss track, what bars, what lines was he saying that you're just like, that's the crazy one.

Leer - Episode 68:
[43:47] When he said, Metro, shut the fuck up and make some beats, nigga.

Persia - Episode 68:
[43:50] That's terrible.

Leer - Episode 68:
[43:51] That shit is hilarious, though. That's just that. What are you going to do?
Just go home and make some beats? You're not going to do that.

Persia - Episode 68:
[43:58] Now you're going to feel dumb every time you try to make a beat.

Wes Episode 68:
[44:00] I will say with that line, it meant more than just like, go make a beat.
A lot of people say that Metro doesn't do the melodies or anything.
Yeah, he just does the drums.
Yeah. So he's like, bro, you don't even make the beat. Just shut up and make the drums. But drums are a very important part of the beat.

Persia - Episode 68:
[44:19] It's the most important part. But so with, to answer your question.

Leer - Episode 68:
[44:24] It's just a funny line.

Persia - Episode 68:
[44:26] There were lines, but to me, it was the song as a whole.
Like, he did not let up. He was going the whole time. And then towards the end, he took a breath.
Like, I'm talking about the first version. I like the first version more than the second version yeah so he but like it was like he did not let up he was going going going going going going going like he went directly at them niggas like directly at each one of them but my only problem with the whole thing is not the song it was the release of it everything surrounding the song because like you didn't put that out, with the same energy that you were saying that you were talking with on the song like if i'm if i'm gonna name drop your wife if i'm gonna say that i'm fucking your bitches if i'm gonna tell you to get the fuck out your feelings you're gonna know that i said that i want you to know it lacks credibility but now.

Matt - Episode 68:
[45:16] It like so you do you look at are you looking at the diss songs being better not as diss songs but just as rap songs like are.

Persia - Episode 68:
[45:26] You saying you like how this sounds better as i think it's the best as this songs so to me like like so i'm when i'm thinking of this songs i'm thinking of like the game used to drop fucking what's your favorite.

Leer - Episode 68:
[45:40] This song let's go what's your favorite this song game because i want to get this bandana and all that.

Persia - Episode 68:
[45:45] Yeah like 300 bars and run it like 300 bars and like songs like that bro i still i probably listen to the game in like five years bro i still remember that shit where he was like like no subliminals i ain't I ain't talking to you Sean, I'm talking to that heartless mouse with no koozah.

Leer - Episode 68:
[46:00] Who the fuck put you on?

Matt - Episode 68:
[46:00] You know what my favorite diss? No Vaseline by him.

Leer - Episode 68:
[46:05] Dude.

Persia - Episode 68:
[46:05] No Vaseline was hard.

Marty - Episode 68:
[46:06] But he went at every single one of them.

Wes Episode 68:
[46:09] He disrespected every single one of them. Easy Does It was hard as fuck too.

Persia - Episode 68:
[46:12] Easy Does It was great.

Marty - Episode 68:
[46:13] I like Piggy Bang, bro.

Leer - Episode 68:
[46:14] Piggy Bang. Piggy Bang was the craze.

Marty - Episode 68:
[46:15] The fact that he put it on his album, bro. He said, I'm putting it on the album, bro, and started sending them bitches. I'm like, fuck.

Matt - Episode 68:
[46:21] You know what song I fucking love?

Persia - Episode 68:
[46:25] What was Hold on Warning shot Warning shot Warning shot Even though it was a diss towards Mariah Carey and fucking That nigga was going And he fucking He fucking put Samples of her on the fucking record That nigga Eminem knows How to diss the niggas A little underrated.

Matt - Episode 68:
[46:51] One The diss track that Eminem did for Machine Gun Kelly is pretty good.

Leer - Episode 68:
[46:55] Yeah.

Persia - Episode 68:
[46:56] I didn't like it that much.

Matt - Episode 68:
[46:57] At the end of the day, it was a washed Eminem.

Wes Episode 68:
[47:00] It wasn't a repeatable song to me.

Matt - Episode 68:
[47:02] No, not at all. But it was enough to be like, oh, okay.

Marty - Episode 68:
[47:05] But Back to Back might be a great one.

Persia - Episode 68:
[47:06] Back to Back was amazing. Back to Back was amazing.

Leer - Episode 68:
[47:08] That shit got nominated for a Grammy.

Matt - Episode 68:
[47:09] That one, what made that amazing?

Persia - Episode 68:
[47:12] Back to Back was amazing to me because it was equally a good song with being a good diss song.
Okay. And he played with this nigga in his face like he was like bro like i played the diss song right when you were right there like.

Marty - Episode 68:
[47:31] Upstairs he was upstairs no that is but to kendrick's point we're downstairs to build on what you just said kendrick's diss did the most damage because it caused you to get tight to me it's the top number one record you hear it everywhere you go you see it means it has the the most traction it caused all of this shit and kendrick did one 10 second thing and caused this whole riff and now everybody's watching i got a question he sound one second he sounds the most polished he sounds the most ready and i think he's the most in shape when it comes to that shit as far as music right because drake has been off and even in this disc it doesn't sound like it's not like drake is still on his same floor that he got off on and rapping there because i think music is past drake but i think drake is just such a monumental force that whatever he does is going to go no matter what, but he's not making good music.

Leer - Episode 68:
[48:21] He's not making top tier music anymore. Drake is the only one of these niggas who is battle-tested.
None of these niggas have been in beats like that. Drake has been in like five beats.

Marty - Episode 68:
[48:29] That doesn't take away from today's platform.

Leer - Episode 68:
[48:33] It kind of does.

Marty - Episode 68:
[48:34] And him making music.

Leer - Episode 68:
[48:35] It kind of does when you're going against somebody who has never been in a ring before. Drake has been in a ring with Common.
He's been in a ring with Meek Mill. He's been in a ring, even though he lost it, with Pusha T. And he's been in a ring with Ludacris.

Wes Episode 68:
[48:48] Joe Budden.

Leer - Episode 68:
[48:50] Like, he's been in a ring before.

Matt - Episode 68:
[48:52] Here's what I'll say about that. now i can't 100 say what everything i'm saying is confidence because i haven't listened to all drake stuff so i don't know what his disses are and his best ones but in the when he's the most battle ready because he's had the most experience i think somebody who's the most battle ready for rap is just who's the most skilled like yeah you could have you could have somebody like i'll give example denzel curry yeah denzel curry i think is probably the best underrated rapper in the the entire game up there with jid but denzel curry is phenomenal i would take denzel curry over like so many rappers for battle rapper just because that's what he does like that's what's happening you gotta.

Persia - Episode 68:
[49:29] Have you gotta have credibility behind it too though that is the credibility is important.

Matt - Episode 68:
[49:33] 100 that part.

Persia - Episode 68:
[49:34] Right there is like that is why i don't think you did when when drake was meeking was beefing with meek i thought that meek was gonna fuck him up because meek was a battle rapper he was a.

Matt - Episode 68:
[49:50] Battle rapper professionally before he.

Persia - Episode 68:
[49:52] Got on he was a battle rapper so i'm like well like it's obvious like drake is a pop star i was just drake.

Matt - Episode 68:
[49:57] Came and destroyed that well he wiped that nigga.

Persia - Episode 68:
[50:00] Like bro like like because no that shit was bad especially especially Especially in modern times, bro.

Leer - Episode 68:
[50:08] And I'm a Meek fan.

Persia - Episode 68:
[50:09] Like, I think that...

Marty - Episode 68:
[50:10] This feels crazy.

Persia - Episode 68:
[50:11] I liked... I did like this... I like this song better than the other ones. But...
Drake has the ability to make a diss song a song and niggas will sing it.
Like, there was a hook to fucking back to back.

Marty - Episode 68:
[50:30] But do you think it's true for this record? Do you think this record is going to go?

Leer - Episode 68:
[50:32] Yo, it's five million in three days.

Marty - Episode 68:
[50:35] No, but is it going to go outside? No, no.

Leer - Episode 68:
[50:37] Because he fucked it up.

Persia - Episode 68:
[50:39] If he dropped it, it would be number one.

Wes Episode 68:
[50:41] It would be number one.

Marty - Episode 68:
[50:42] I don't think so. Look, that's what I'm trying to say. Like, he didn't, it didn't go. So, look, 10 years ago, when he dropped it back to back, right?

Leer - Episode 68:
[50:48] Yeah.

Marty - Episode 68:
[50:48] Drake was, it was probably like that. Drake was dominating the sound.

Marty - Episode 68:
[50:52] He was dictating where music was going. He was the it guy.
He was pushing music forward. Today, it's not him.

Leer - Episode 68:
[50:59] It's Travis Scott. It's Tezzo.

Marty - Episode 68:
[51:01] No, I'm saying, look, when Drake's last couple albums, they've been okay. They've been subpar.
Compared to the music, when you think about your top five albums that's been dropping over the last five years, you're not putting a Drake album up there, bro.

Leer - Episode 68:
[51:13] Hold on, bro.

Marty - Episode 68:
[51:14] You gonna top five over the last five? You got a Drake album up there?

Leer - Episode 68:
[51:18] I got her loss up there. I got her loss up there, yeah.

Marty - Episode 68:
[51:21] Over Travis and Tezzo and all them boys that's doing it.

Leer - Episode 68:
[51:23] With Travis, I'm not... I mean, Utopia was alright, but I'm not putting it over her loss.

Marty - Episode 68:
[51:27] I feel like the music is going so... Her loss... Music is going to a whole different place, bro.

Persia - Episode 68:
[51:33] And Drake is just still in here. Even if you take that outside of that, none of these niggas in the big three are dictating the sound at all.

Marty - Episode 68:
[51:40] They're not. That's why this beef is This is pointless, yes.

Persia - Episode 68:
[51:46] So outside of that, like, nigga, take him what's there. Drake's was the best.

Matt - Episode 68:
[51:52] Now, here we go. Now, let's think about it like this, though.
Let's think about it like this.
Do you think, like, let's go back to the battle, like, that conversation we had at the battle rap, because I agree with you. Like, Meek Mill and Drake and Drake actually ended up outbeating him.
Now, at the end of the day, freestyling, it's a whole different game.
Like, if I were to be like, oh, let's get Drake and Meek Mill in a freestyle battle rap.
sorry drake like no but as a recording writing a song to be able to have it produced i feel like drake has so many options that he's goes to for ghostwriters flows things that go off and i'm not saying he can't himself i know he like does and i'm not like discrediting in his lyrics but i feel like his disses are like a collaboration of like multiple minds and not from him like he's.

Persia - Episode 68:
[52:35] I don't think i don't think that i don't i'm i'm gonna give that quinn willard thing the doubt yeah it did i'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt and think and say that i don't think that he would write that because drake has not always drake came in and was writing songs for other people true like so drake drake drake has a strong drake's writing can stand on his own so i don't think he needs help with certain he needs help making he doesn't he doesn't need that he doesn't need help as a rapper but with the like he's.

Marty - Episode 68:
[53:06] Not the.

Leer - Episode 68:
[53:07] Only one who needs help making hits because if you look at the credits other people have it's not just the producer and the writer's name it's multiple other people.

Marty - Episode 68:
[53:15] But travis.

Leer - Episode 68:
[53:16] Got that shit too.

Marty - Episode 68:
[53:16] But true yeah yeah but look because the double down just talk about what you were saying as far as like the battle test and shit what kendrick did is the same exact thing that drake did to me bro like he made a hit and it's going it's playing outside like you can't escape that shit like i don't drake can't go into a room right now and can't not hear that song playing so that's a different level i mean so that's something like kendrick is probably out ahead for me because you're the most confident you made a verse and you got niggas tight and you sitting still.

Persia - Episode 68:
[53:44] I like everybody else acting up outside it was more impactful i don't think it was the best i think it was the most impact and what.

Matt - Episode 68:
[53:52] Makes it the best to you bro the.

Persia - Episode 68:
[53:54] Way it was a better song yeah the way it was a better song but not a better actually but they're not a better no no no no no no it's a better it's not a better song oh marty like if i'm if i'm about to diss marty i'm about to be like niggas in the kitchen With they With they With they Fucking chef shit Knock your chef hat off Nigga Like You a suit cook I'm about to suit you That's kind of fire I'm mad at you Because you can rap I'm.

Marty - Episode 68:
[54:18] Out there I'll write a verse For you I'm.

Persia - Episode 68:
[54:21] About to I'm about to I'm about to Don't worry about that That's different than You coming at me Directly And being like Nigga fuck Chuck Nigga Right No no no I got you But what.

Marty - Episode 68:
[54:32] I'm saying is like Kendrick Kendrick did something right Yeah And then sonically, Future and Kendrick's record sounds better than Drake's record.
Drake, this is harder, but the record sounds better. Which record sounds better?

Matt - Episode 68:
[54:44] See, no, at this point, I want to say it's subjective. Like, at that point, it is. But I want to know, though, and like, from your point, though...
is it like you're saying it's just a better song but not a better diss but and then the whole talk.

Persia - Episode 68:
[54:56] No i think it is a better diss but what is he saying that is more.

Matt - Episode 68:
[55:01] Impactful than you said the other one was more impactful.

Persia - Episode 68:
[55:03] Literally just just if you looked at it numerically like just mathematically kendrick only had 40 seconds right he only had and then only four of the bars were dedicated directly to drake right drake was going at this nigga throughout the entire four minutes just what did he say what did he say all right he said bro he has to hike down the film you.

Leer - Episode 68:
[55:27] Wear size seven you're not you're not the nick you're not in the top you're not in the top three nigga.

Persia - Episode 68:
[55:32] You're losing to your label mate you're one rap of the year not not not not just like you're not in the top three uh you're you're a singer that you're that's on your label you're getting extorted about top dog you're getting extorted you're getting fucking like like uh he said his last one flopped he said it didn't it didn't brick it bricked relative to his previous previous work but it didn't brick in general but like when i you can't really yeah like he he does pull stats he pulls that kind of shit because you can't come with him to stat you can't fuck with him when it comes to stats.

Matt - Episode 68:
[56:12] No, not at all.

Persia - Episode 68:
[56:12] I know you're going to fucking say something.

Wes Episode 68:
[56:15] I want to say something. I want to say one thing and it's not what you think I'm going to say.

Persia - Episode 68:
[56:21] Say it.

Wes Episode 68:
[56:22] I think...
from future and metro's perspective and how this all started it feels like a manufactured it does feel like yes with all these people like it feels like a manufactured beef for the rollout of we don't trust you and drake's in on it like that's what it feels like yo.

Leer - Episode 68:
[56:40] I don't know if i would say i've literally heard a theory today like right before i came in all drake drake j cole and uh kendrick are all signed to uh well no they're all in universal so you know they've been doing Universal can.

Persia - Episode 68:
[56:55] Win throughout all of this shit.

Leer - Episode 68:
[56:57] That's what I'm saying. Since they've been doing layoffs in music and everything, they're trying to boost the money up.
So they're saying that they've been doing these diss records to inflate some sales.

Matt - Episode 68:
[57:06] That's why this feels weak.

Persia - Episode 68:
[57:08] The only reason that that wouldn't make sense, though, is that Drake didn't put his record out for streaming.
They're not making any money from that.

Leer - Episode 68:
[57:18] I mean, it's on YouTube.

Persia - Episode 68:
[57:20] It's like YouTube doesn't count because if they were claiming it, it would have gotten taken down already yeah universal does not play about fucking streaming shit but like i it does feel manufactured in the way that it's like nigga why is all these niggas on your album dissing the same nigga like i like y'all didn't talk about this beforehand you're gonna tell me that these niggas who are on different sides of the country they just all decided on the same projects or like with the same names like yeah i don't like this nigga today like you niggas set this i.

Leer - Episode 68:
[57:49] Think asap really hate that nigga though.

Persia - Episode 68:
[57:50] I probably really hate.

Wes Episode 68:
[57:52] That I think Drake really hates A$AP.

Matt - Episode 68:
[57:54] I think it's more.

Wes Episode 68:
[57:55] A$AP took his dream, girl, bro.

Leer - Episode 68:
[57:59] On For All The Dogs, he has dissed Rihanna on there. Like, I know people didn't really listen to it like that, but I listened to it. He dissed Rihanna on that bitch.

Wes Episode 68:
[58:07] You can diss Rihanna, but shit.

Matt - Episode 68:
[58:09] Ah, Wes.

Leer - Episode 68:
[58:09] You got to hold that, boy.

Wes Episode 68:
[58:14] Um you don't gotta ditch her alone bro drake.

Persia - Episode 68:
[58:17] Can do.

Wes Episode 68:
[58:17] Say whatever he wants to rihanna but she's the one who didn't want him exactly but.

Persia - Episode 68:
[58:21] Like but to your point that shit is goofy and and to your point i will say this though i will say this in terms of beefs in general, which you gotta gotta give it to like what you were saying in that same point which is why i said that i was okay with j cole apologizing because this shit is imaginary this shit is built on pillows like this is like what the fuck are you niggas even mad about and then and then nigga 90 of this beef was soft shit no 80 85 85 because kendrick was going hard and drake was going hard j cole shit was soft the weekend was literally singing, Matt said before that he can like he's he can kind of be on both sides of shit I'm like that too I'm like I'm good with like I'm good with duality in that way we're like yeah.

Leer - Episode 68:
[59:24] That shit fire.

Persia - Episode 68:
[59:24] In terms of a diss yeah I'm like like i cannot believe this nigga is singing disrespectful lyrics but at the same time i'm like that's crazy that nigga was like drake does that to people.

Wes Episode 68:
[59:36] A lot no.

Persia - Episode 68:
[59:37] Drake no drake started singing at the end of the fucking second version what marty was saying oh i'm sorry one more thing in the same token drake's saying.

Leer - Episode 68:
[59:51] Go ahead i.

Matt - Episode 68:
[59:52] Think you're about to go where i'm going into.

Persia - Episode 68:
[59:53] Drake saying dp i just got him done boy don't make me have to break a nail was the gayest shit i've ever heard on a diss song sorry and it still didn't and it still didn't like sway the song like where i i saw people saying it i was like that first of all i was like i was like that's some soft ass shit on a diss track but at the same time i was like that's crazy that that nigga said that on a diss track like he was still lighting niggas up like you're gonna say some questionable shit and he doubled down because that second version was re-recorded like you could tell it was recorded and he said it twice and you changed the line and didn't change that one you changed the line and didn't change the i got my nails done one and you but you're gonna change the diddy one yeah come on nigga no look i mean.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:00:44] Like we're scared.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:00:45] Wait did.

Matt - Episode 68:
[1:00:46] He pissed on him back back to like what marty was saying like credibility like so i'm not a drake fan i'm not going to disrespect him to say he makes bad music which is not for me he makes great music i respect what he does as an artist he puts the pieces where they need to be and he's a genius in that but at the end of the day like when you look at like how he is on social media and like how goofy he is and mimi and the lover boy stuff and you know acting weird you know he's like a kind of strange fellow so then when he says these things i'm just like this is drake saying exactly like i don't know and now i'm not saying kendrick's like a killer or anything but you know he's from what he's presented he's a pretty hard dude that's.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:01:29] Been through some shit and not saying drake isn't drake kendrick is not a hard dude in terms of hard dudes kendrick has already said that he was not that dude he was like that's how he knows top because his no kendrick said it because that's how he knows top because his dad His dad was a thug and his dad was close with Top.
Top is a G, so that's why Drake is saying that you're being extorted by Top, but outside of that, I would be on the same page with you if I didn't already know that Drake could destroy niggas in a beef.
That's what makes it more choppy.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:02:02] I don't want to say this.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:02:05] That is why I'm saying what I'm saying about the duality with these niggas is insane.
With The Weeknd and with Drake, these niggas are not supposed to say nothing's tough.
They know each other.
I'm from Detroit Detroit, though, that's different. Different kind of life.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:02:24] Yo, I don't, all right. We think, it's a theory that Drake killed X.
Drake got X killed, bro. It's a big theory out there.

Matt - Episode 68:
[1:02:31] Where's this going?

Wes Episode 68:
[1:02:32] There's a lot of talk on the internet from Canada that Drake's crew is really like that.
Drake might not be, but Drake is at the top to the point where he can tell people to do the things that he needs to get done.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:02:46] It's cool with rap. He's tied in. He's tied in.

Matt - Episode 68:
[1:02:48] Now regarding that with image that I mean that's what he's saying like he's coming out these people's image like you're short your album flopped like you're getting this it's like the street shit we leave the street shit out of it cause like come on, it's not like discrediting future shit.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:03:06] But even what I was saying like Future's diss was soft like Future's diss wasn't as much of a diss as it was like it sounded like venting bro but I don't expect.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:03:17] Something I don't expect.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:03:18] A lot from Future. I wouldn't expect anything like that from Future.
I was surprised because Future doesn't really diss people. He does what he did. He fucks bitches.
He makes little slick fucking little side shots. Like, you know, get out your feelings.
You can't get in a rap beat with Future. You can't get in a rap beat.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:03:37] He's fucking beefing with his baby mamas.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:03:40] I don't want to hear a diss track from French Montana. I'm not going to lie. What?

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:03:44] Why not?

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:03:46] Rick ross's shit on uh uh uh what's it called money that.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:03:54] Mac and cheese five was pretty good.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:03:55] No what was that what was that shit called money uh money in the grave no it was it was a rick ross song rick rick ross dissed drake on the song he was like color money color money color money was crazy that nigga was going that like on color money he was going on this other shit that nigga That was some...
He took an old 2008 Maybach music beat.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:04:22] I do like Push Up. I do like the Drake diss. I do like it.
I do understand what y'all saying about Kendrick. He's not really like...
i wouldn't say like dissing drake but he's calling him out now if he does come out and have a like a response towards drake that will be something different i'm waiting to hear like i'm like bro you.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:04:41] Can't start this shit and not go nowhere.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:04:43] Yo i just don't want to discount this nick this nigga drake just because he is battle testing i.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:04:47] Don't i don't think it's like a winner or loser because the shit's not.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:04:50] The fans win but i.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:04:51] Think the fans not even winning because like we're not really getting like i think the music is still not like at a high quality level I've seen people talking highly about.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:04:58] It. They was like, like that in the strip.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:05:00] Yeah, I've seen people saying shit like, hip hop hasn't been this competitive in a long time.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:05:04] No, this shit is, like you said, it sounds manufactured. It sounds like the old dudes still want to get some juice going so they want to like, try to like, they still trying to hold on and then like, the homies that's creating this crazy ass wave, I think Travis and them boys and Tezzo are like, leading a whole different, it's like, music is way over there and then Kanye's over there hanging out with them playing around and shit. For real, bro. And then them fools is over there, Vulture's trying.

Wes Episode 68:
[1:05:27] Vulture's too.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:05:28] Because Ye, right, leading the forefront because he's playing in that sound.
He's playing in that pattern. He's way over here.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:05:33] That boy out there. And music.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:05:35] Because he produces at that level. I don't think Drake raps at a high level anymore. I think Drake can rap, but I don't think he's doing what he was, bro.

Matt - Episode 68:
[1:05:43] I do not think Kanye is producing at the level he used to.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:05:46] No, no. I think Kanye produces and he still produces music.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:05:49] I think he and his DJs.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:05:50] Like, not lyricism, but as a composer of music, I think he does it at a high level. See, I don't think he pulled a number one off.

Matt - Episode 68:
[1:05:56] True. but like in that carnival record.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:05:59] That shit just sounds different no carnival still.

Matt - Episode 68:
[1:06:01] Good it sounds like a trav album dude oh well i'm just like a trap.

Wes Episode 68:
[1:06:05] I've got two things to say about drink that's a whole other guy have you listened to church his church hill downs i don't like that.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:06:11] Verse but i hear you.

Wes Episode 68:
[1:06:12] That verse he he's going on that he's talking about a lot of shit nobody can relate to but him but he's talking a lot of shit and then with for all the dogs, he's trying to do what kanye was doing he brought in yadi.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:06:25] To bring.

Wes Episode 68:
[1:06:26] In the youth and try and manufacture an album that had more youthful artists and trying to go in that direction i think kanye does it better though.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:06:34] Yeah yeah.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:06:35] Because kanye's been doing it for a long yeah.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:06:37] He's smart with this thing about when jay come out right jay and i think now we can start just talking about music i think it's because drake hasn't evolved as a human being like drake yeah 38 years old and you still fucking up the bitches that you like that not even but you making the music because you lack personal growth so like kendrick and j cole they have had relationships and they actually are going through manhood and the music starts to sound better so the same thing with jay-z when he dropped four for four he went through manhood he cheated on his wife and he had to like reconcile that so in that growth he was able to speak from that perspective and the music sounded crazy i mean because you're going through something so like nobody cares about what drake is rapping about when drake was rapping about that shit 20 years ago we were all going through it we was college like or coming out of college and then we was fucking with the bitches outside it It all made sense. It was all relatable.
Now he's just talking rich money fucking bitches shit.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:07:23] But he's still selling 400,000. But he's not.
I don't think he's making music for us. That's what I'm saying.
I don't think he's making music catered to us anymore.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:07:32] No, he's making music for where he's at.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:07:33] He's making pop music.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:07:34] He's making music for... As an artist, you can only make music for where you're at. You can only talk about your experiences.
So if your experiences is fucking your man's bitch and then not trusting hoes, you sound like a child.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:07:45] He fucked Wayne, bitch, while he was in jail. That nigga dirty, though.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:07:48] Regardless of your popularity, bro, I don't give a fuck about your popularity.
It doesn't mean, like, are you creating at a high level, which we're expecting from you?
Like, if Jay was to drop, bro, like, Jay is putting classics out still.
Like, I think the bar has got lowered tremendously, bro, like, where they're not hitting the mark anymore. And it's like we just settling for, like, a Drake album.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:08:09] What was your last Drake album that you liked? I'm just trying to pick a break.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:08:17] If you was reading this, it was too late.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:08:18] Damn, 2015? That is a good album, though.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:08:20] That was a great album. Because I have a high standard for Drake.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:08:23] Okay.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:08:24] So after that, I feel like Drake, he been doing his thing, but I don't think Drake, because Scorpion was cool, but it was like, he playing, but it was okay.
Like I said, all these albums, they were okay, but I'm like, that shit, if you're reading this, it's too late. That shit was crazy.
And I was like, damn, bro, I thought Drake was going to be there with Jay-Z.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:08:41] Well, even going into, like, feeding off the thing that you said, with these people, with what are these rappers like growing up and everything that is a big part of growing up like i would love to hear drake rap even when pusha t did expose him about having a son but i would love to hear him rap about like what it's like having a son at you as you being.

Matt - Episode 68:
[1:08:58] The top.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:08:58] Artist in the world.

Matt - Episode 68:
[1:08:59] Like what's going on with last album kendrick's last album that's why i love that album to me it was the best album i remember hearing that for the first time but it's because what he was saying on there like it wasn't even just one thing like there was still the ego stuff where it's like i'm the best blah blah blah like he had his bangers but then you also talked about like toxic relationships and growing up in an ignorant environment and having to learn and change having to grow and daddy issues and ego issues like he was talking about real shit that like people are kind of going through now like he always talked about real shit but he talked about like real shit that he was going through like on a daily and like normal shit to get people hype and pumping dude.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:09:39] That's i think that's why kendrick's fan base is what it is and so where drake like he really caters to the fuck homies like like so but like it's it's no ill will against him it's just.

Matt - Episode 68:
[1:09:47] That i think his music could be elevated.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:09:49] If he was to like go through relationship get married have kids and actually go through that parents process because like yo yo your reality is you just run around fucking each other bitches and now y'all having a catty ass fallout in front of the rest of the world that's crazy.

Matt - Episode 68:
[1:10:03] It's like if all of us got big exactly how and we just fucking just fell out.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:10:06] Because of some bullshit like y'all look crazy like.

Matt - Episode 68:
[1:10:08] Talk about the cuddy yeah.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:10:10] Like oh my god i.

Matt - Episode 68:
[1:10:13] Love he was my favorite artist of all time man but then he just he just got to it like he got to the top all the stuff he was wanting the attention things were good things were cool so then he just started trying to be mainstream and start trying to cater to the mainstream and then you get pissed about stupid shit like somebody listening to his song on soundcloud and that just because he likes the version better being sensitive bro about shit instead of letting your.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:10:36] Creation be what it is, thug. So I don't think that Drake is like, like his music, it holds no substance to me, man.
Personally, I can't listen to, lately, I can't listen to shit that does not really give me substance. Like I got into Russ lately.
I'm like, yo, I never liked the Russ as a kid, you know, but as I elevated and started.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:10:52] You said who?
oh right oh right like his last little piece his last.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:10:56] Body of work crazy but i'm like y'all this dude can really make fire ass music.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:10:59] But i.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:11:00] Had to get there in my elevation and growth as a human i can't hear that shit bro you run around fucking each other bitch.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:11:05] That shit just don't even sound cool let me play devil's advocate on it just a little bit just i don't really believe let me just throw this out there but like you being a top artist and you being having so many ops and everything sometimes you kind of gotta be sheltered on a couple things you can't be vulnerable all the time because people use that as ammunition sometimes you can't be vulnerable all the time when you're the top when you're the top artist when you got so many ops but drake has drake has had drake has made so many enemies over the years of him being in the in the game yeah.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:11:37] I think i think i'm not i think.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:11:39] The game the.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:11:39] Game changed him like yeah the game the game changed him.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:11:43] Like he.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:11:44] Didn't he's like people and then people people still say the same shit about drake that they were We're saying 15 fucking years.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:11:51] Ago.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:11:52] He's soft. Like, Drake's the kind of artist that would do this. And blah, blah, blah.

Matt - Episode 68:
[1:11:56] He doesn't change, though. He still is that.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:11:59] He hasn't made that stemmed from so far gone and take care kind of music 10 years ago.
He hasn't made a song like that. He makes them here and there.
What about Loverboy album?

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:12:13] It wasn't like that. It wasn't like that.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:12:15] But then that's.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:12:16] Another thing where people are like Why don't you make that type of music.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:12:20] Anymore Exactly He's in a different place He's not that same nigga Like bro That was how he got into the game He got into the game being that vulnerable He made being vulnerable in that way Popular And he made being open In that way popular But it turned on him Because one, just naturally just naturally if if if i'm if i'm just open and i'm just like like emotional and whatever like i love these bitches and blah blah blah i mean i'm like okay like and that's the kind of music that i'm making and then i find success from making that kind of music then i'm exposed to different kinds of bitches and i'm like these bitches ain't shit now i don't feel the same way about these bitches now i gotta make different kinds of music like that's a reality bro like you don't know that we don't know like he was very transparent he was name dropping in his songs he was telling you the relationships how they ended what happened like he was doing goofy shit but we don't know but like going through their phone.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:13:24] Doing a hundred thousand he was like i'm gonna go through this bitch phone we should go to the bathroom keep a blade on me when i check a bitch ain't no telling what yo this shit was fire it.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:13:36] Was hard but you listened.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:13:38] To the shit just like what the fuck exactly yeah oh she going through my phone drake you can't control your hoes bro.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:13:46] Like so then.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:13:47] You get mad because your bitch is playing you like you a goofball bro and then bro jay.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:13:51] Don't know he's not a goofball but now he's not a goofball now he's one of the richest artists ever hey lonely he can choose i still think whoever i think he might be i'm not i don't i don't know i don't like to speculate like that but like but in that in that way i was i was thinking about this earlier knowing that we were going to have this conversation it is odd to me that like i'm surprised that he's not married and he's not like like knowing where he started i'm surprised that he hasn't settled down or anything like that no.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:14:25] He's scoring and jaded bro he bro look you hear it in the music bro every every no listen what he said bro like.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:14:32] You could be that way forever Especially in his position You don't need Nigga go.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:14:36] To therapy bro He will You hear him talk about When he My bad go ahead doc I.

Wes Episode 68:
[1:14:40] Was gonna Look how many women Mick Jagger has gone through, yeah like these rock stars are the same way like yeah you gotta look at drake and he's a he's a rock.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:14:50] Star he's a pop star but.

Matt - Episode 68:
[1:14:52] He's a rock star i think an artist being married in general is actually very it's.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:14:55] Smart because well.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:14:56] You need to be you need.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:14:57] To elevate like in your own life so like if you listen to drake early music right all his he would be doing his thing but then his bitches would be fucking other dudes so now he catching them up and shit like that right so now you get jaded so now you get older you don't trust nobody hoes and now you fuck everybody else bitches because you was on the way up and everybody was slamming your bitches to the mat.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:15:15] So then you became so now i.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:15:17] Got all this i'm so jaded i'm so angry now i gotta go fuck everybody bitch and that's his way of getting after it everybody knows that it's not a horrible way to live bro that's that's how you going at people because.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:15:28] On his way up everybody was slaying.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:15:30] His bitches bro and he thought shit was sweet.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:15:31] Then it was like you know i thought that's kind of bro you know you're a boy you're a boy i'm gonna.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:15:38] Fuck everybody hold now.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:15:39] And then.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:15:40] He can't trust nobody.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:15:40] Yeah what's funny about that bro i thought about that recently because i was thinking on some philosopher shit and i thought about that and i was like everything has like like you're there everything has a price and you either pay it up front or you pay it on the back like you're gonna like it's either gonna cost you on the back end or it's gonna cost you up front like like you in in just using that example if you have the discipline to be able to reject like that kind of shit and you're just like like yeah no i'm not gonna do that you might like kick yourself be like damn she was fine and like why i didn't do that but you gain you i mean you're gonna have respect for yourself but you're also not gonna lose that respect or lose that ability to trust and you'll you will feel more confident or whatever when you settle down versus like i know for me personally.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:16:30] When i was fucking bitches and they had niggas that shit especially after like one of my one of my exes did that shit to me i brought nigga i was single for 10 years straight i'm not even like bro but but it was because it wasn't just her doing that it was like her doing that and then first of all because i was like i had a big ego so i'm like like nigga ain't nobody gonna do shit to me like you know i'm saying like like ain't nobody gonna cross me because i'll beat the ass like you know like it's not just like i'm just not that but so so then when it happened i'm like what the fuck like bitch i don't fuck you gonna do this shit to me but but but outside of that it was also like my eyes opened and then i started seeing that people are doing this fucking everywhere and then i'm like what the fuck and then i'm like yeah i can't do it i can't do it because and then now i'm like now i'm like because i was already doing that prior to that relationship ship and i was like hidden vision i was like like bro one time i was walking i i i i was walking with this girl we went to a park at night she she taught me at the park right she taught me at the park we were walking back to her house and then she was like you gotta cross the street you gotta cross the street my boyfriend's in my garage i was i was like i was like what the fuck i was like oh and then i turned around and then you know like that shit makes you feel like you're cool huh Huh? Shut up.

Wes Episode 68:
[1:17:54] I know who it is, right?

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:17:57] That's what I'm trying to find out.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:17:58] Yeah, I get it.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:17:59] Where'd you stay at? What garage?

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:18:02] So, we were walking. But that shit makes you feel like on a general level as like an egotistical man, that makes you feel like you're the shit.
Like, oh, man, I got these. Oh, bro, you know what I'm saying? But you pay for that.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:18:17] No, you don't.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:18:17] Like, you do pay for that because now you're like looking at your bitch sideways.
Like, are you like, you know what I'm saying?

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:18:21] Who the hell you walking to at night?

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:18:23] No, for real, dog.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:18:24] She was like, oh, I went for a walk.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:18:26] Nah.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:18:27] And now I'm in the garage.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:18:28] I went to go vote. Bitch.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:18:30] Bitch. And then with Crazy, like, if you listen to the music, I think Drake had, like, his four loves in his life, I think, in the beginning.
And he would talk about these bitches, like, indirect, like, specifically.
And what I think what happened was he had them, right? And then he started cheating on them and shit.
And then that opened the door. You can't bring your girl to this fucking room of wolves and then she's loyal to you and then you go and fuck somebody in And they don't you you leave her for the fucking taking so now she got slayed and then now you bring in like bitches from Your hometown work out into the game and they get knocked down by athletes and rappers and shit you and this bitch sick as fuck Like god.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:19:10] Certified lover boy was coming out, he was going on a date with some chick and and like uh somebody like shot a drone because he rented out the whole like dodger stadium somebody shot a drone over the stadium and like was taking pictures of them like having a date so i'm just thinking like if you're the number one artist in the world can you have any privacy yeah any privacy jay and beyonce yeah but i mean okay okay i said okay number one artist okay number one artist i mean no taylor don't get no privacy but rihanna didn't get no private they gotta do.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:19:48] But they gotta deal with a person that's on their caliber and i don't think drake is built for that i don't think drake is emotionally mature.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:19:54] Enough to deal with what i'm saying.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:19:57] Like especially in the way especially in the way that and especially in the way that he comes at people because like we said like i'm I'm sure that if the nigga is as smart as he seems, I'm sure that nigga is aware, like, you playing chess, you're going to pay a heavy cost when that time comes.
Because everybody going to find your bitch.
Niggas going to make up lies about you. Niggas are going to start saying all kinds of crazy shit.
Like, bro, you're going to pay a price for how you were controlling the insecurities.

Matt - Episode 68:
[1:20:25] Like, he's just showing his insecurities because.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:20:28] But that's why I say, bro, sometimes you got to go to, you might have to go to therapy, bro.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:20:32] You just gotta get the baddest bitch and just lock it down, bro. That's what Jay did.

Matt - Episode 68:
[1:20:36] Like, fuck it.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:20:37] I'm just gonna get the most un-fucking-touchable motherfucker out there.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:20:39] Yeah, but also, even that.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:20:41] I'm sorry. Go ahead.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:20:42] No, but with the whole Jay-Z and Beyoncé thing, which I fuck with so much because he cheated on her, but niggas did not find out until three years later on the Lemonade album.
The whole incident happened. I mean, people can theorize.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:20:58] Jay said it.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:20:59] Yeah, he said it. but he no but no beyonce said it first.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:21:02] And then jay came back behind it and doubled but you.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:21:05] Remember the whole salon thing when they was in the.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:21:07] Elevator we.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:21:09] Were theorizing and but nobody said nothing.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:21:11] But that's how you that's how you move when you different when you come from like a code and a street ethic bro it's just certain things that you you you keep near and dear to yourself so like drake is like that college kid that went to the street shit and then they was like kind of bullying him but he was letting this shit happen because the street dudes was like he was getting to hang out with the street dudes and shit but then everybody fucked his bitch so now he mad he's scoring and now he's got the bag and now he's like okay i'm about to just fuck all the street dude bitches and i got the street dudes with me so can't nobody fuck with me but he robbed himself of that joy because you know that he wants to be in love you know that he wants to have a family because that's all this fucking music is about i didn't love my bitch that's the street nigga i mean so like that's why i faced that street nigga was able to get rihanna because he had morals and codes and ethics and all this other shit so i'm not saying drake doesn't have it but i don't think drake being the real him i think he being the scoring him yeah and that's with the version of Drake that we get right now.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:21:58] I don't think he got like the best morals, bro. He's cool. Just coming from like the stuff that you hear about, I don't...
you're talking about drake.

Matt - Episode 68:
[1:22:06] Or asap drake.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:22:07] Drink okay no i think asap.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:22:08] Yeah but you ain't never drake drake fucking drake hit one of wayne's girls while.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:22:14] He was in jail.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:22:15] Bro like that shit is like that's a wild ass shit bro that's that's one thing i don't like bro look i look drake the controversies about talking.

Matt - Episode 68:
[1:22:22] To underage girls.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:22:23] Bro like for me personally bro we're.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:22:26] Gonna have to wrap that shit up on that.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:22:27] Yeah for me personally i do not like that shit i don't like that shit in any context because that shit is so lame to me. It's so many bitches in the world, bro.
And there's no shortage of beautiful women anywhere.
Like, bro, it is hard.
A rare person is a successful person. It is not hard to find an attractive person.
In any city I've gone to, I've seen a girl and I was like, God, damn.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:22:55] Bro, what? You can be at fucking Florida?

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:22:58] Nigga, you can be in Idaho? you at taco bell man it's on fire you're motherfucking.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:23:04] Enterprise on fire bro like the house is an enterprise taco bell walmart.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:23:08] Bro i'm like pull up in like fucking aladdin bro bitch i'll change your world what's up god bro when we when we went to florida to shoot the uh fucking hydroplane video we were at the car the car uh rental spot yeah bro bro make.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:23:25] It 15 hours hour. What's up, baby?

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:23:27] 12? Nigga, this bitch gonna speak English?

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:23:29] Come on, baby, I'm gonna change your world. Fuck you talking about. Make it 12? Come on.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:23:34] Bro, BDL, everything. They're everywhere. So I think it's goofy to do that shit to your people.
Like, okay, if you're going to say.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:23:43] Like, all right, you know.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:23:44] Whatever, it's up in the air. Because I think there is validity to the idea that, like, it is it is the duty of the people in the relationship to secure their relationship like you shouldn't be there should be no opportunity for someone to fuck with you if you're with somebody of course so that's one yeah but if but if you're gonna say like all right i'm cool like i'll fuck other niggas bitches i don't give a fuck like there should be a line drawn at the people that you have a relationship with yeah like bro that shit is like goofy i've I've heard, I know rappers, like, from here, like, locally, of similar stories, where it's like, these niggas fell out over that kind of shit, because one nigga fucked another nigga's.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:24:24] Like, main girl or a nigga that he was in love with.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:24:27] Or, like, whatever, like, bro, leave niggas, girls alone, or don't do that, or do it, but know that there's gonna be some consequences, because I'ma crack your fucking head.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:24:37] Yeah, it's messy, bro, it's fucking weird, bro. And then, like, a woman, a woman probably listening to Drake's shit, like, can't fully invest in trusting them because you know how you give it up so she already probably coming to the game like sly and then like men and i don't know i feel vulnerable and i'm vulnerable but i can empathize with drake understanding that like yo everybody want to hit your old bitch because just because it's a trophy like i hit drake's bitches like man these rich dudes weird right now that's weird.

Matt - Episode 68:
[1:25:01] Bro i would never do that like it's.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:25:03] On trophy shit like oh i hit drake.

Matt - Episode 68:
[1:25:04] Black talks about that kind of ego because you.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:25:06] Like people um married isn't he no.

Matt - Episode 68:
[1:25:09] He has a girl but he does have like a daughter i don't know if his girl is the mother but he in his songs he talks a lot, about like communication and loyalty like he's black right yeah yeah he'll go through like saying like there's eras where i'm like i just don't love you i want to go fuck other bitches just because that's how i am but i'm gonna let you know i'm not going to commit to anything i'm gonna let you know and then he would also say like verbatim the back same back to you like if you want to go fuck other dudes let me know and we're not going to be like a thing and he's like i don't care how many dudes are hitting up your dms it matters who who you were hitting up back yeah like if you're gonna commit to somebody you have to in your mind be like they're not gonna fuck with anybody people aren't because you because if you do think they're gonna fuck with anybody one is either from trauma because it just happened in the past of course or you would fuck with somebody so you're projecting and thinking that they're gonna fuck with somebody yeah that's where the insecurities come out but you gotta be you gotta communicate that you gotta be out there and be secure with yourself look.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:26:07] At this mature ass pie we have.

Matt - Episode 68:
[1:26:10] It's just like yeah.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:26:11] I just i i don't know i just think i think that that shit is the shit is the shit has.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:26:16] Bitch that's that this is how you know this beef is fucking terrible the fact that it ended up talking about relationships this is how you know this shit is ass bro for real It's about bitches.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:26:29] That's what I want to hear.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:26:31] You need to grow up.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:26:31] Bro, and then when I think about it, like, to that point, too, though, what we were talking about, too, the shit falls on the women, too, bro. Because, like, there was a singer.
there was some girl i remember y'all remember this shit there was like a few years ago where like in the same token where it's like nigga why the fuck would you fuck with your homies girl or like anything like like why would you do that like why would you damage that relationship over this bitch and you don't care about this bitch you're just doing this shit for one moment and now you got beef now you beefing with niggas now you beefing with seven niggas i know i don't know if you're talking about.

Matt - Episode 68:
[1:27:08] Ariana grande but that one was crazy.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:27:10] But no i no no so it was there There was a singer that was on one of his albums, and then she cheated on her boyfriend, and then started fucking with Drake, and got piped down by Drake when he flew her out to be on the album.
And then her boyfriend found out, became a whole fucking thing, and her boyfriend was tight about it, which is fair.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:27:33] I wouldn't do that shit publicly, but that's fair.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:27:35] Don't say shit to the internet.

Matt - Episode 68:
[1:27:37] They don't give a fuck.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:27:38] They're just going to clown you. but but like as a woman why would you do that like you're back being a normal bitch like you just like you just so you just changed the trajectory of your life about for this nigga and drake you can tell one thing about drake though i got you can you can tell that he i don't want to say this because i don't want to be offensive to to to him i mean this very no i mean it's very still i like i like his music i like him as an artist i don't like i don't know him personally but i'm but conjecture they're.

Matt - Episode 68:
[1:28:16] All just rich people it.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:28:17] Seems like he he uses people and then lets him back lets him go like he's like like all of the people that like he will like from what i've seen people say about him and that's why people say that he's fake because he He acts real cool with you and then he'll disappear and you'll never hear from this nigga again.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:28:37] He did that to DJ Drama. He was going there to make music and end up fucking this girl.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:28:41] What kind of shit is that? Bro, that's some wild ass shit. So then that makes you seem like you're always plotting on people, one.
But like, so as a woman, you gonna, ruin your relationship and probably your life to fuck this nigga and then not remember I don't remember what it felt like after like a month and then you changed your whole life.
Like, bitches are stupid. Some of these bitches are stupid.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:29:09] This is the last thing I'm gonna say. This is the last thing I'm gonna say.
Oh, a scoring woman, like even if y'all had an argument and then next thing you know, maybe Drake is in her, if y'all had an argument and then Drake is in her DM, bro, she's leaving you to go see Drake, even if it is a fucking 15 minutes.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:29:23] I don't play that shit.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:29:24] And that's why Drake knows that. Like, Drake understands from his POV that, there are things that people are willing to willing to fold for and it's fame like yo i can get to a point as let's take advantage of it and he's like man you don't you're not committed to your guy for real for real because if i gave you a shot with me you will fucking fold bro future said.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:29:44] That but on one of his songs he said something like you know the money will change your nigga the fame will change your bitch i don't know what the fuck it is about fame that gets to women but like bro who cares bro black talks about.

Matt - Episode 68:
[1:29:54] That a lot.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:29:55] He's had something where.

Matt - Episode 68:
[1:29:57] He's like she's literally owning it for the fame.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:29:59] I know that's bro even icp fucking said shit about that but like bro like i don't know what it is about fame that what it does to people but it's like bro like you said icdc icp insane clown posse nigga oh okay go ahead but but like bro like i mean that exists at any level like people just want to be around you because like that shit like they feel like their fucking clout is.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:30:22] Transferable well sometimes it is for for women bro is it's security purposes and then it's the women it's like a playground bro like so when you pick from women or whoever it's what pool or what you're picking from so like when you become rich the bitches that come around know that you're rich and they only around you for that specific quality that you're rich and i'm only gonna talk to a rich dude so in that that type of woman comes with a whole bunch of variables i.e i'm fucking the richest dude here because that's the number one quality on which i'm here for now it's not like when you go to church or like a library wherever people might find them like if you might meet a girl on your natural journey who has substance and degrees and all of these other shit that's not the women that's doing all of this goofy yeah that's fact so these women are fucking targeting these guys and they are falling for it and these are the only bitches that they fucking with so you're intertwining low-key energy all day every day that's what you're just around with low quality as well you're just in that and you're just keeping.

Matt - Episode 68:
[1:31:18] The people around you so those are the kind of people that are gonna be in your square.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:31:21] Because like I was saying before If you're going to be with somebody J.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:31:24] Cole's wife and Kendrick's wife, I barely know Savannah James I don't I don't think Savannah James I don't think I know what J. Cole's wife looks like yeah I don't think like you.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:31:35] Gotta look at old pictures they out.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:31:36] The way chilling bro.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:31:37] Chilling the only the only thing Drake can try you think Drake I know they try reverse okay what Jermaine Cole um addressed it here uh significant other yeah it's because when you get into that relationship like.

Matt - Episode 68:
[1:31:53] We were saying before you're expecting them to be committed you You are not having that idea that they are going to cheat on anybody or do anything.

Wes Episode 68:
[1:32:01] Drake. Okay, here's a Drake is the type. Drake is the type of dude to have one of his guys follow J. Cole home.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:32:08] Yes.

Wes Episode 68:
[1:32:09] And wait till the next morning when his wife leaves to take a picture so he can see what she looks like.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:32:14] That's how to get away with murder shit.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:32:15] Bro. That shit is crazy.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:32:17] Yeah, that shit is crazy.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:32:18] If you build a foundation with your woman on the way up, bro, and you don't fold on her and don't got her out here looking goofy and shit.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:32:24] To be honest, bro. then she'll be loyal to you yes yes and it and it depends on the kind the quality of the woman because like bro i i i personally i think it's just like because i do music and then like i do so much shit that is like in the creative fields where it's like you can end up famous or around famous people and that kind of shit i cannot fuck with a girl that gets like starstruck or like anything like that that shit is unattractive to me because i don't view these people in that way I view these people like Co-workers They are If I meet an artist that's more famous Than me and that kind of shit If I meet I just met a nigga that's more successful Than I am That's like meeting a nigga Like your supervisor.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:33:12] He's just a more successful He's not more valuable You know what I'm saying So like I can't fuck with a girl that thinks of, like celebrities or any kind of like that like you know the measure they're as if they're like on another plane they're the same as you yeah like they chose a different path than you they're not better than you no and so like the the the idea that you get that the idea that you can fuck with this person or whatever like you're special because this person chose you for five minutes like that thought process is unattractive to me and every every artist is like that nigga Every artist knows that.
Every single fucking artist that has found any kind of success to have been in this position knows that shit, unless they're a goofy or unless they just started.
But every artist knows that. No artist would fuck with the kind of bitches that they would fuck when they were on tour. They would not take them seriously.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:34:09] Take them seriously?

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:34:10] Yeah.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:34:10] Because you only around for my clout. You only using that as a unit of measure.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:34:15] You didn't come here to meet me.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:34:16] Exactly. And Drake is taking these hoes serious, and he has been for the longest.
is he tried to get our girl out the strip club what are you doing bro this is a sex worker let her get her back it's a task why would you try because.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:34:28] You don't need to be here.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:34:30] On that note you got some I'm about to wrap this shit up man.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:34:33] Listen bro after I saw after everything changed for me after I came to the studio with an artist that, your brother's artist when I came to the studio right after one of his songs blew up and this I was there uh the the engineer had a had a girl come down there from his from his home i know the story and they just met that day she knew that she knew his song i left i came back and she came out of the booth at.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:35:06] The neck and uh.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:35:06] After necking him in the booth after just meeting him that day because his song hold on his song had a million views on YouTube not like bro not a million dollars, not a million streams it wasn't on the charts like his song just happened to blow up recently and this girl went in there and she had a boyfriend I was like nope I.

Wes Episode 68:
[1:35:36] Have seen some crazy shit about girls from From people that aren't even famous.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:35:41] Yes.

Wes Episode 68:
[1:35:42] Bro, I'm not even close to famous.

Matt - Episode 68:
[1:35:45] That's where I was.

Wes Episode 68:
[1:35:46] An unnamed artist I used to work with.
met this girl in the strip club she gave him her car that her father paid for lied to her dad and said he bought it off of her and signed the title over to him he never talked to that girl again i've watched with the same dude i've watched his friend's girl try to fuck and they're they're not even famous they he was had zero dollars.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:36:12] Zero dollars zero.

Wes Episode 68:
[1:36:15] And they think that there's a possibility of someone to be famous and they just.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:36:21] Bro i bro when i did summer jams when i did summer jams there was these two girls in the fucking front row and they were just looking at me like giving me the eyes they found me after yeah and they was just like like so like where are you staying and i was the opener nigga i'm not shit you don't know my song yeah i'm just over here like bro like it's just it's it's it's crazy but those are low quality women you don't like as an artist as a creator you're trying to say somebody that's trying to come up those aren't the women that you're looking to settle down for you want the girl that knew about your concert but chose not to go come on like because she had to do something or like she just wanted to watch tv or like whatever like like a girl that is not that is not her priority you don't want somebody that's looking for it.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:37:08] Yeah because i think like before i got married before i get the fuck on that was a big thing it was like i had to meet my wife if i was ever going to meet my wife before i got big because once i got big i'm not trusting nobody.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:37:20] No like.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:37:20] I just i.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:37:21] Can't i know why you're.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:37:22] Here what i just can't.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:37:23] And you know how good of fucking actresses and bro actors everybody yeah.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:37:28] Bro you see you don't robin gibbons man kill my dog tight we can talk about this shit all day.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:37:32] Anyways man anybody anything else what we get.

Matt - Episode 68:
[1:37:35] Up i just like a random example i can think of something like this is you guys remember pewdiepie.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:37:39] Youtuber yeah.

Matt - Episode 68:
[1:37:41] So like his girl like when they started talking it was just on the internet and she didn't like necessarily know how big he was gonna be but she was just like a fan of his videos and they just like normally talked and when he got like massive he kind of wasn't like telling her and they were just kind of like she didn't care how big he was getting and didn't want to be on camera or anything and to know that that was enough for me like all right she does not want to do this because of the fame because he was getting to the point where he's kind of getting big and be like are you just talking because of this and kind of laid that down and that's that's kind of back where we're saying before and west was kind it doesn't matter how famous you are or rich, if a girl's gonna not be loyal to you, it'll be for any reason they can find.
Any reason they can find. So if they think there's another dude that can provide for them better, has a chance of being more successful, can do something more for them, person will go to that person whether they're famous or not whether they're.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:38:33] Attractive or not quality ones though exactly because there's going to be those people that.

Matt - Episode 68:
[1:38:38] Are like all right yeah i'm down for you whether you're famous whether you're not like i don't give a shit and of course at the end of the day that's the one everybody wants but like how you guys are saying once you're up there it's hard to find that so usually.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:38:48] No you're just hard to trust and then you're hard to find because you don't want to open yourself up to that because you don't you would think that the homie again to that point unless she has like equal value that you do yeah like she's.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:38:58] On your level.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:38:59] Exactly because other than that you're looking at everybody else like a goddamn leech bro yeah sucker and shit and.

Wes Episode 68:
[1:39:04] When you get to that level there's a lot of good there's not good women there's a lot of women that are good at faking being a good woman.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:39:12] Bro oh yeah the idea that is scary bro cougars are on assault right now bro like any chick that got ran through by the homies like i'm gonna use drea for an example like the homies ran through or whatever right and And then she got older to 40.
Now they all preying on like the 20 year olds like her.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:39:28] Yeah, that shit is wild.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:39:29] Bundle of Britney. I'm like, yo, this is a fuck. I'm watching this shit.
I'm like, oh, they under attack.
And then you got to think about these young boys that was like looking at these girls on social media growing up.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:39:38] Bro.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:39:38] And high school, I'm feeding off to you and all this other shit.
Now I'm a millionaire, bro. And I can fuck you?
Oh, shit. I didn't got you pregnant. And these women know that, bro. I feel like they preying on these young minds.

Persia - Episode 68:
[1:39:47] They know.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:39:48] Got an opportunity to fuck Dre and Michelle. What? Yeah. yeah tiana trump was fucking speed and kai senate bro he was 17.

Wes Episode 68:
[1:39:56] And she was still like basically trying to get him to have sex with her on live stream.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:40:01] Crazy bro crazy dog so anyways on that note anything else we out now.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:40:06] I'm gonna do the nick thing.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:40:07] All right man so much all right look see.

Leer - Episode 68:
[1:40:10] You space cowboys.

Marty - Episode 68:
[1:40:12] We out.