The Average Superior Podcast

#40: Taking Flight with Financial Hacks from Easy

March 28, 2024 JB, CJ & Jason Episode 40
#40: Taking Flight with Financial Hacks from Easy
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The Average Superior Podcast
#40: Taking Flight with Financial Hacks from Easy
Mar 28, 2024 Episode 40
JB, CJ & Jason

Get ready for an episode that takes you from the depths of post-workout cold plunges to the dizzying heights of credit card point maximization! Episode 40 welcomes back the ever-entertaining Easy for his third appearance, guaranteed to add that extra spark to our milestone celebration. Together, we unwrap the intricacies of travel hacking, personal finance, and the sometimes bizarre world of airline loyalty and online gambling. Ever curious about the art of squeezing every last benefit out of your credit card points for that dream vacation? We've got you covered with strategies, anecdotes, and a healthy dose of laughter along the way.

Strap in as we navigate through a galaxy of topics wider than the Star Wars universe. From dissecting global conflicts and national tax debates to diving into the lighter side of Reddit communities, every minute is an adventure. Did I mention we also debate whether or not an average Joe could land a plane with zero experience? Plus, we share personal insights on fatherhood and the unexpected joy of naming snowplows, because why not? Our discussions are as diverse as they are engaging, and you're invited to join the rollercoaster.

As we wrap up this jam-packed episode, we don't shy away from life's big questions, like facing fears and pondering over our obsession with brands like Yeti. We also reflect on the importance of sports in our lives, the nuances of planning trips around parenthood, and the ever-present challenge of guiding young adults through the maze of financial responsibility. It's a mix of deep dives and light-hearted banter that will leave you with a new perspective on everyday life – and maybe even a few extra points on your next credit card statement.

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Get ready for an episode that takes you from the depths of post-workout cold plunges to the dizzying heights of credit card point maximization! Episode 40 welcomes back the ever-entertaining Easy for his third appearance, guaranteed to add that extra spark to our milestone celebration. Together, we unwrap the intricacies of travel hacking, personal finance, and the sometimes bizarre world of airline loyalty and online gambling. Ever curious about the art of squeezing every last benefit out of your credit card points for that dream vacation? We've got you covered with strategies, anecdotes, and a healthy dose of laughter along the way.

Strap in as we navigate through a galaxy of topics wider than the Star Wars universe. From dissecting global conflicts and national tax debates to diving into the lighter side of Reddit communities, every minute is an adventure. Did I mention we also debate whether or not an average Joe could land a plane with zero experience? Plus, we share personal insights on fatherhood and the unexpected joy of naming snowplows, because why not? Our discussions are as diverse as they are engaging, and you're invited to join the rollercoaster.

As we wrap up this jam-packed episode, we don't shy away from life's big questions, like facing fears and pondering over our obsession with brands like Yeti. We also reflect on the importance of sports in our lives, the nuances of planning trips around parenthood, and the ever-present challenge of guiding young adults through the maze of financial responsibility. It's a mix of deep dives and light-hearted banter that will leave you with a new perspective on everyday life – and maybe even a few extra points on your next credit card statement.

Support the Show.

Email us here: average.superior@gmail.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/averagesuperior/
Connect with us on Twitter here: https://twitter.com/AverageSuperior

Speaker 1:

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Speaker 2:

As Hemingway said, there is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man. True nobility is being superior to your former self.

Speaker 3:

Everyone feels the same way you do All right.

Speaker 1:

What you do right now makes a difference.

Speaker 3:

Universal laws are lacking context. They're kings. Context, ever King. Oh, did people comment LB Some DMs? You know a couple sad faces.

Speaker 4:

Okay, Haley, way to go. You shared it.

Speaker 3:

I appreciate you sharing it 21 times, but in the interest of being fair to our seven listeners, we had to just pick somebody at random. How did you do that?

Speaker 1:

I'm surprised I didn't get him, given the amount of entries he made.

Speaker 3:

I used an app or a website. He didn't, just no, there's an app for that Comment picker.

Speaker 4:

I don't like the way that sounded Comment picker, comment picker, comet picker. It sounds really derogatory.

Speaker 3:

No, it doesn't.

Speaker 1:

It sounds kind of normal.

Speaker 4:

Alright, are you going to announce?

Speaker 3:

Do you want to ask if we're started yet, are we? Yes?

Speaker 1:

Welcome. Episode 4-0-40. You heard that correct, which is also how old it's shocking you used to be. I'm not 40. Well, I'm in my 40s. We have a special guest today. Third appearance on the Average Superior podcast.

Speaker 2:

Easy. Thanks for having me Hat trick.

Speaker 1:

Hat trick Easter with easy. So I want to. I'm just going to talk about it on the podcast. Hopefully your wife isn't mad at us.

Speaker 2:

No, she's not mad. She was disappointed, okay, but if I'm being honest, she's already in bed, oh, okay.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, she ordered a gum and move. It would have been fine, except for logistically. It was like how are we going to make this work?

Speaker 2:

And uh, she opted out after I said that was a problem when she found out it was in the evening she was like, yeah hard, now I'm going to bed oh okay, I like the daytime ones they're much more energetic they are I.

Speaker 3:

I mean, I did a thick cold plunge this evening, so I should be good for about an hour.

Speaker 4:

But it's a thick versus a thin water was thick with three c's oh, like you're getting thick not you, but that's how you say it thick.

Speaker 3:

Uh no, I just just did a nice long plunge after work I also did a plunge today.

Speaker 2:

Uh, single digits. I was proud. But do you guys use music? Because that's like, I have a song, I have a cold plunge song whiskey in the jar.

Speaker 4:

That's what I use and I know every time, every chorus when he does, the chorus when he goes.

Speaker 3:

I dip my head underwater.

Speaker 4:

Oh, what's your song?

Speaker 2:

Well, I just went to what's it called Beautiful Things. It's very like emo, as my daughter would say.

Speaker 3:

But it's three minutes, so it's perfect.

Speaker 2:

Who's the singer Benson something.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I think that's it. Yeah, he's a good singer.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, benson.

Speaker 1:

Boone, I listen to music, but I don't like to listen to one specific thing Listen to music too.

Speaker 3:

Sometimes I just turn on a podcast.

Speaker 4:

It is a good song, is that a?

Speaker 3:

timer.

Speaker 2:

At least because I find with music I know I'm like, okay, I'm halfway done, okay, I've got a minute left, yeah.

Speaker 1:

One more verse a hard one this morning.

Speaker 3:

I didn't like it. Nobody ever likes what was the temperature?

Speaker 1:

seven, oh yeah, that's cold. Did you, did you do it? No, I haven't done it for I knew you were well well, dude, first, I was I was on holidays for a week yeah, no, I came back.

Speaker 3:

You know what. You spent a few thousand dollars on this cold plunge. You might as well just leave it in the basement no, look at it.

Speaker 2:

I was gonna say for the guy that's made the biggest investment in plunging.

Speaker 1:

Can we listen to my story before we jump on me? Sure.

Speaker 3:

Let's all wait while you flip through your Rolodex of excuses.

Speaker 1:

Okay, First excuse was I was gone for a week so I didn't do that.

Speaker 4:

You bring it with you, Dana White.

Speaker 1:

I got back. I was home for three days, okay.

Speaker 1:

You did it in three days, I did not and uh, okay, you did it in three days I did not, uh, and and then I cranked it up to 104 degrees to have a hot tub for a couple of days, Cause my wife was like, well, I'll use it if it's hot while you're gone, cause I went away for another week for a course. So, like cool, so I cranked it up and then. So the funny thing is when when I have it on cold cold, it lasts like a month and a half, two months before I have to change the water in like four days. It got disgusting and slimy, uh, and I. Then I came home to this and I have no chance to except to pump it out my window and uh, so you mean having your carpeted basement.

Speaker 2:

Maybe is not the best location, it's fine is that just like a temporary measure, or is that where it's staying for good?

Speaker 1:

I don't know. I don't know where else to put it Anyway. So the point being is gross water right now. I can't clean it until it gets a bit nicer out. Okay, I'm screwed for a couple days.

Speaker 3:

What's your excuse for?

Speaker 1:

next week I don't think I'll have one. It's supposed to get nice again, right?

Speaker 3:

Yeah this week. Why is our dog in the podcast room? So I thought we were going to try something new, because when I lock her out of the podcast room, she causes damage.

Speaker 1:

Okay, and now her tail's just smacking things.

Speaker 3:

Well, that's because Eric's ignoring her. He was literally doing nothing Am. I allowed to say your name.

Speaker 2:

I don't know.

Speaker 3:

Are you? I don't know. Is it a secret?

Speaker 2:

It's been a minute, since I've been on the podcast you.

Speaker 3:

Well, I don't know. Is there a secret? It's been a minute since I've been on the podcast, so we had this discussion last week about like like, how much does it matter? Yeah, yeah, it doesn't matter, it does not, it does not because the nine people are we up to nine people? How many people are listening?

Speaker 1:

I don't know. I think consistently like 25 really yeah, I don't think we have a. Usually we don't have an episode that is below 25 listeners and that's usually pretty quick and then it kind of so if you look back, I was checking the other day because I wanted to see how many listens Shannon Clark's got, and I look back and actually one of yours is probably in the hundreds now the Mormonism.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, the post-Mormonism.

Speaker 1:

The first one that you were on.

Speaker 2:

I had a lot of people reach out to me about that.

Speaker 1:

That's awesome, good things or bad things.

Speaker 2:

All good things? I don't think.

Speaker 3:

Anybody from the church reach out to you and be like so.

Speaker 2:

No, they wouldn't. They wouldn't admit that they listened to it. So there you go.

Speaker 1:

So that one was really high, by the way, that was a good one and then everything else, kind of like it's funny because I've heard the way up.

Speaker 3:

They're creeping up into it to tell them, or try to tell them. I was like you know, don't start at number one, start at like 14.

Speaker 4:

I don't even remember. I always say, to start on his yeah, that's funny.

Speaker 3:

Like the fact that we've been yeah it just. It hopefully gets better as time goes on.

Speaker 1:

I think it does, but I think it's. I actually think it'd be interesting to go back, for, like me, are you for us to go back and listen, cause I don't even know what we talked about. I don't remember. I drive away from here and I'm like what did we talk about today? Oh, totally, and so, and then probably all of the same things over and over again like cold plunging podcast.

Speaker 3:

If we start early with cold blunting, it just shuts it off.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's true, so who's not a cold plunge fan?

Speaker 1:

uh, no, he doesn't want.

Speaker 4:

He hates when we talk about it and we for some reason, have to talk about it every week we do, we'll talk about it less now that he's given up on it, but I haven't I think we talk about it more when he's not doing it, to shame him back into it, because that unfortunately, that's how I've learned.

Speaker 2:

How to motivate people in my life is with pain and hurt instead of like else you do do you know what motivated me to go back into it was when, uh, my daughter had a sleepover one night and her and her friend jumped in the cold plunge and they were like dad, it's not that cold seriously, yeah, like and that was like around 10 or what.

Speaker 1:

Yeah see, I got my daughter and her friend to go in uh for a minute each and I said if I did that I would take them to the store.

Speaker 2:

Disneyland? No, nothing like that.

Speaker 1:

I'd take them to the store to get something and they did it, but that was when I had it at like probably 13, 14 degrees, and I tried to get them to go in it when I had it down to 4. Which would do it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, there you know, she was like Dad. I was in there for like 7 minutes, no, like nothing, no qualms at all, and so I was very emasculated and I was like I need to get back into this and man up, so I did.

Speaker 3:

Are you using your mirror cover?

Speaker 2:

I am, yeah, which really ticks my kids off, because it now has one less shower they can use in the house.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, it's the best spot to keep it, though. I think carpet's fine, Well carpeted floor with a pump out, your window is just as good.

Speaker 1:

I've had no problems. So yeah, it's fine.

Speaker 3:

Except for the last week and a half. Except you can't pump it out right now because you have it in a living room.

Speaker 1:

Just because it's cold outside, because it's frozen, I can't use my hose right now.

Speaker 3:

Fortunately, typically when they build houses they make rooms with drains in them.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like a furnace room there is no room, though it's tiny but no, to run the hose to that uh no, it's a lot of water are you worried that one day you're gonna come home and your basement's gonna be flooded with slimy? I thought about it.

Speaker 4:

I thought about it just the carpet will soak it up.

Speaker 3:

Yeah it would just be like a puddle it would be a problem.

Speaker 4:

It would be a problem are your kids using it? No, I'm the only. Even when you hot tub use it, they use it one time yeah.

Speaker 1:

And my wife used it probably four times when we turned up the heat and that got gross. No, I thought your wife was cold blending. No, she did it like when we first got it more than I did, and then she doesn't want to do it anymore.

Speaker 3:

Ah, when are you going to sell that thing to me? A lot Pennies on the dollar not um, did josh text you about your nerd? He did actually. Yeah, he did. It says he did.

Speaker 1:

You have to tell him to what we were just chatting about. Oh yeah, he's like what are you doing with it? I'm like I don't know, sitting in my garage does he want to get into it, or what?

Speaker 3:

uh, he has a nerd cover. We're just trying to source a second nerd cover. For what? The nursing home?

Speaker 1:

oh, just to leave it there. I don't know that'd.

Speaker 4:

That'd be gross. Yeah, we're just dream building. Do you remember?

Speaker 2:

when the nursing home had that steam room.

Speaker 4:

Oh, that's the best.

Speaker 2:

It was the best, it was the absolute best, it was the best.

Speaker 1:

I would not put a cold plunge there. I wouldn't trust people to rinse off before getting in it.

Speaker 2:

No, you'd have people's skin from their feet float around and guarantee you, someone would pee in it oh my god, do you guys pee in the cold plunge? No, I don't either. But as soon as filtered as soon as I hit the cold plunge my ever. Because everything contracts, I have to really yes, concentrate on not being really oh really oh yeah, I've never had that issue like instantly

Speaker 4:

I've had the contracting issue, but not the, not the oh yeah, it's, it's cold you don't have that issue.

Speaker 1:

You don't lose your balls in the cold punch, just suck right up in.

Speaker 4:

I gotta stay warm.

Speaker 1:

I lost my balls years ago they don't just hide inside your body no, I don't know it's.

Speaker 3:

Uh see, the issue I'm having is that I can't get any colder right Like it's. Seven to nine degrees is kind of whatever the temperature of water in my cistern is. So I'm about to order a Vivor water chiller from Amazon for a few hundred dollars and see if that works.

Speaker 4:

That'd be cool With a filter in it.

Speaker 3:

No.

Speaker 4:

No, okay, no Just change the water.

Speaker 3:

See, I put mine in a room with a drain. Oh, okay, so I can actually just drain it out and put new water in.

Speaker 2:

But you've had it cold. I remember seeing some of the texts on the group chat of like four degrees.

Speaker 3:

I don't know about four, five or six. Six might have been the coldest I've had it, but there's a fucking big difference between six and nine, like night and day yeah, even from you know 10, 9 to 7, I could definitely tell the difference yeah, I want. I my. My heart is telling me that there's like a, an exponential difference every degree you get colder fight or flight syndrome kicks in it's.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it sucks more, but I honestly, like once you're used to like five or six, like three, I was doing three, three and a half and it was like I don't know, like your hands and your feet definitely feel colder, but everything else at some point you just go numb like you, just you're numb, so it's not that much worse is there a point where, like, because my I'd like to get this chiller and then I'd like to get it down to, you know, three, four degrees, but then when I like lately, I've been trying to do longer periods of time, so, like today, I did seven and a half minutes.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, um, is there a point where you can do it too much?

Speaker 2:

yes, yes kind of like a cost benefit, like where does it well, no, I think my balls just not come back there's literally.

Speaker 1:

Well, there's a point where you could potentially like do damage. I can't remember which podcast it was oh, it might have been like the um endless endeavor guy, uh and he was saying that he did like 20, some minutes in like five degrees and he was worried that he might have to go to the hospital because he couldn't get circulation back in certain parts of his body like it's you can get hypothermia, but did he build up to that 20 minutes?

Speaker 1:

because I am a firm believer of the human abilities, human body's ability human abilities human abilities I believe in human abilities and the ability to adapt uh, but there is a point where you could no longer adapt.

Speaker 2:

I don't believe that okay, or where it just doesn't have any more benefits or you just die I know tony's gonna be upset about this, but let me ask you guys a question.

Speaker 3:

So you know what? Let's stop worrying about tony. This is your podcast. I worry a lot about tony because it's tony.

Speaker 2:

Uh, I'm hearing uh conflicting information about post-workout plunges yeah, some people are saying don't do it.

Speaker 1:

Some are saying do it, some are saying do it most of the data is don't now, it's pre, do it pre, or like four or five hours after after weights, right yeah, after cardio, you're good just to jump in, apparently yeah, if you're going for like a long run, yeah, it'd be fun give her.

Speaker 3:

But if you're trying to get swole, like like you are, yeah, like if you, if you want to be like, if you want to be like jv was before he went to mexico all the pina coladas got to you it kind of did.

Speaker 1:

I've been on a bit of a downslide since then, we can tell that's rude, bro.

Speaker 3:

I'm snooping your whoop stats. Oh yeah, I haven't done anything, yeah, like I I've just been like, oh, he didn't work out again today he's on his life no cold plunge, no working out like what's going on with you well, I don't know man like so, yeah, holidays.

Speaker 1:

And then it was a weird transition because, like I said, I was home for three days and then I was in a hotel for a week after that and yeah.

Speaker 2:

I don't know. Tomorrow is a new day. Do you work out on holidays?

Speaker 1:

I did not. I worked out twice. I ran twice and then in the hotel we worked out most days, I skipped two.

Speaker 3:

I don't know. It was a weird answer because you said you didn't and then you just followed listed like seven times that you did yeah what, yeah, you backtrack you're like I did not, but like I ran a few times.

Speaker 1:

Well, I worked out every day no, like I ran a couple times when I was in mexico and I worked out a bit in the hotel in edmonton now it's a bit well like five nights four, three, four of the five nights I can't remember.

Speaker 4:

Pull the whoop up.

Speaker 3:

Pull the whoop up yeah, never get deposed by a lawyer. You would get crushed uh and uh.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, this weekend I said nothing, so I almost, I almost work out more when I'm on holidays, just for the simple reason that I don't feel bad when I'm drinking copious amounts of alcohol and eating this is a great not so great food and you want to talk to you about.

Speaker 4:

Okay, I've warned him about it oh no, he knows about it.

Speaker 3:

Oh good, so you work out when you're on holidays, and you're on holidays every fucking week I do like, I do like to travel you are the most traveled person I know, but you're not like person, I know, but you're not like I've been some places. You're not like the girl who's gone to Thailand at like 21 to find herself. I just had to go find myself. There's nothing wrong with that? I, you, I I told you this the other day. I want you to start a YouTube channel about your extreme couponing for traveling.

Speaker 2:

If I, if I can make uh the money that I make at the nursing home doing that, I, I would. I'm very I enjoy it. It's almost like a. It's almost a sickness. I spent a lot of time uh extreme couponing and figuring out flights and all that kind of bullshit. So it's a disease.

Speaker 3:

But can you explain to our listeners how you're scamming the system?

Speaker 2:

it's not a scam and there's a. That that's a. That's a loaded question. There's a. There's a lot to it, but uh, it just takes. Uh, it's funny cause uh Allie will be like oh I'm so glad you planned the trips, because if it was me, I'd literally just pull up where I want to go and book the first flight, like, no matter how expensive or whatever, I would just click on it right. So it's a bit of a. You got to put a lot of leg time into it. You got to do a lot of research and start planning ahead of time, looking for flights and deals and which points you can use and all that sort of stuff. It's uh, it's almost a psychosis. I think some people would consider it that so are you?

Speaker 1:

are you using points like like flight points, or like credit card points, or what kind of points? Yes, okay, what's your?

Speaker 2:

what's your biggest. What's your biggest?

Speaker 4:

all of the above out of all the things to save on, the more what is the? Biggest one that you're like, you would travel the most with it's, uh, it really depends like.

Speaker 2:

It depends to the point of like okay, we're gonna go to a restaurant or go grocery shopping, I'm gonna, I'm gonna use this particular card and you have to. You have to have good credit and you have to be okay with opening and closing some, some credit cards once in a while and that sort of stuff, and know how that affects your credit score and how it doesn't affect your credit score. And a lot of it's like signup bonuses, a lot of it is referral bonuses, a lot of it is okay, this card, you get five points a dollar on food. So when we go to the grocery store and spend 400 bucks on food, I'll use this card because I get 2 000 points, type thing, right. So, yeah, it's a, it's a lot. And then you couple that with you know, trying to find cheaper flights and and, uh, booking ahead and stuff like that and that sort of thing, and it adds up. We've, we're like we're going to vegas next 11 days and it's not costing us a penny.

Speaker 1:

So uh, do you have a west jet card? No see, like the west jet credit card I debated getting, because you get that companion flight to like a free flight a year and then a companion or something, don't.

Speaker 3:

Why? Cause it's not worth it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so that, and so a lot of that has to do with, like, doing research on all the different cards. I did look into the WestJet card. Yeah, so the problem with the WestJet card is you accumulate all these WestJet dollars, albeit at a very small amount, but you can only use it for the price of the ticket, not for the extra fees. Right, and what some of these uh airlines are doing is they're getting wise to it and what they'll do is the price of the tickets only $30, but it's $280 in fees. So you're all your West jet dollars that you've spent thousands of dollars on groceries and stuff accumulating you can only use for a small portion of your flight.

Speaker 1:

So that's why I like uh we have ATB, uh credit card and uh the rewards. Like so I booked uh the flight to Vegas for August.

Speaker 4:

You're going to, aren't you?

Speaker 1:

And, uh, it's completely. It was completely free. Uh, completely free Cause it pays for all the taxes and everything it air miles I had back in the day and yeah, you had to pay for the taxes on top, but it's nice when it covers all of it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so my very first travel card was uh, it's actually a U S company called capital one.

Speaker 2:

They used to have a presence here in Canada. It's very small now, but they had a card just like that and it was at that point was the best travel card, because you would accumulate these points and it would sit there, uh, on your card, and any travel booking or any travel charge that you linked on that credit card you can then basically reverse with your points, right. So let's say you had a thousand dollars with the points, you could go and find the best deal, whether it was Expedia or WestJet, air Canada, whatever book it and then just basically wipe that charge off your account. So that was kind of the first one I ever got a taste of and and I was like, oh, I like this, right, like you, you get, you get these free points so you can use it for travel et cetera. The problem is is then they would start devaluing, devaluing, devaluing and then eventually that card kind of left the market. So unless you were grandfathered and you couldn't have that card anymore, that don't basically be holding you to WestJet or stuff like that, right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, the one that we use is pretty good for that, but I know there's a lot of options out there. So I heard of this thing, this scam. It might be a scam. I heard of this thing a long time ago. I don't think it works in Canada, but it was where you basically have five cards and you transfer the balance from one card to another card, which then you got the points. So say, we had card one, you got it, you got the points on that. Now next month you transfer that balance to card two, get the points on that. Next month you transfer to point three. So first of all, you're not paying for that amount for like five months and second of all, you're earning points in every card.

Speaker 1:

But the problem with that is, when I looked into that I'm like, oh, this sounds like a too good to be true, yeah completely, because when you looked into that, when you transfer the balance of a credit card to another card, it's considered cash, so you start paying interest on instantly, yeah so, instead of having that no interest because you have, you have to, haven't paid it off or I haven't had the chance to pay it off yet, so I'm like I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I I know, I definitely know that I heard a guy talking about it and it was working, but it must have been a different country, because I don't think we can do it yeah, and if you look at the fine print and majority of cards here in canada if not all of them you can't get your points on it.

Speaker 2:

So sorry, cash advantages people read the fine print, I know right yeah, first of all, I would, I would uh caution anyone who balance transfers or takes out cash advance on your credit card not to but, um, yeah, so most cards, if not all, will specifically uh prevent that, just from exactly for that reason. So you actually have to make purchases on it.

Speaker 1:

So I can't remember what it was. There's something I did with the, my credit card, one time and I didn't realize it was going to be considered a cash advance oh uh, lottery lottery.

Speaker 2:

What do you mean? Lottery? Lottery and game sense a lot of time. No, it's considered uh, cash events really yep, maybe it was my credit card.

Speaker 1:

No, I've never had that, yeah yeah, sorry that that is the thing, so like buying, like a 649 ticket?

Speaker 4:

yes, is it cash on online?

Speaker 2:

yeah, oh, okay, yeah if you buy it from the store, it just codes as whatever the store is right gas station or whatever okay, no, yeah, interesting.

Speaker 1:

No, it wasn't that, but it was something. It was something like. It just seemed like it wasn't that big. Oh, you know what it was, something like that it was. Um, I think it was putting money on like poker stars or something is this where we find out that you're a degenerate gambler? No, not degenerate, but I definitely did. Did online gamble a lot from poker back in the day? Do?

Speaker 3:

you know, this guy paid for his fucking engagement ring.

Speaker 1:

Poker yeah.

Speaker 3:

Good for you, I won a poker tournament in, like 2006.

Speaker 2:

Does Mrs JB know that that's the source of the funds?

Speaker 1:

Okay, yeah, so a funny story. With that one I had gotten my wisdom tooth or something. I got something done, just one tooth.

Speaker 2:

I was high.

Speaker 1:

I was gotten my wisdom tooth or something. I got something done. The dentist just one tooth high. I was super high because they'd give me a bunch of percocets or something. And I went back to the where I was staying and, uh, there were a lot of poker stars and jumped in the tournament. It was like a 30. I think it was a 33 or 11 I think it was 11 entry and there was like 33 000 people.

Speaker 1:

It was just insane. It was back when there were so many people playing online poker because it wasn't illegal in the States yet, Anyway. So I just like I like literally just stared at the screen for six hours and just kind of was out of it.

Speaker 1:

Next thing, you know, I realized I've been doing this a long time and I kind of looked and I was like there was like 10 people left and I already was guaranteed a decent amount of money and I think I ended up I can't remember winning like seven grand or something like that Six, seven grand I can't remember. Yeah, but if I had not been stoned out of my mind on Percocets.

Speaker 2:

I bet you I wouldn't have been as patient, your wife would have ended up with a Walmart ring, or?

Speaker 1:

something, yeah, exactly, or would have gone into debt, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so that's kind of how it, that's kind of how it all started. Was that that one card and then it's just kind of exploded from there.

Speaker 3:

So I I honestly think, like so this time next year. If you started a YouTube channel, I think you'd be like, very popular. Could I quit the nursing home? Maybe, maybe, like, maybe, maybe, because you have unlocked. So you're going to Vegas in 11 days. You just got back from.

Speaker 2:

Where did we get back from Cabo Cabo? Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Which was preceded by a trip to, first of all, cabo I paid cash for.

Speaker 2:

It was my wife's birthday present, but before that we were on our honeymoon.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And then we were in Vegas in December for her birthday. You do a lot of that, I guess, in December for uh, for uh, her birthday.

Speaker 1:

So you do Vegas, december, vegas April, vegas August A lot of time in Vegas.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, he's starting to get comp rooms and shit. Yeah, I know yeah.

Speaker 2:

So that's yeah, exactly. So April, april's free because uh, they uh, like you gambled a little bit, like not a lot, and actually came out ahead. But yeah, they want to bring us back. So comp test nights and comp test nights in August as well, and then we're flying down on aeroplane points and coming back on save on points.

Speaker 1:

So that's awesome.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know it's funny because, especially you know, you guys give me the gears a lot about save on points and it's so funny because people will, will go into save on and they'll, uh, they'll, scan their jug of milk for five bucks and the lady will say, oh, do you want to? You want to spend four thousand points. And everyone goes absolutely. And I was, like you just wasted sixteen dollars in travel points, like you know, and so that they kind of rely on people using it for those little one-off things, whereas I just accumulated until you have enough to take a flight to a hotel somewhere so I always say no, but then my wife will go without me and she'll say yes to like the bread for free.

Speaker 3:

Oh 100 if you're like you can have these mike and ike's for free, I'll be like, yeah, I'll use 10 000 points and one of our co-workers there.

Speaker 2:

I got him on the save on train and he's already got almost 300 accumulated now. So it's uh yeah, you just gotta know how to leverage it. But you also have to be a bit like psychotic, because there'll be times where we'll come back and we'll have eight things of rice cakes in our in our cart right, because there's a deal where, if you get eight, you get an extra 500 points or something like that.

Speaker 1:

There's nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 2:

So when the apocalypse happens, you'll have some rice cakes to last you a couple weeks yeah, so as long as you have a significant other that's willing to kind of overlook your psychosis and just kind of rolls with it and she does when she flies places for free, it, uh it works out well. You know, you'll have, uh you'll have, days where there's 40 times the points right and some people will take the 15 off instead, whereas I always take the points oh, do you always see I, I can't, I don't think I could do that, see I don't even know.

Speaker 3:

I don't have the fucking mental bandwidth to like, pay attention to like the food. Today is 40 times. The points are like oh, I should shop you just gotta.

Speaker 1:

Before you go shopping, you look at the app I don't have time for that.

Speaker 3:

Yes, you do, I no, I don't.

Speaker 1:

So like I'll put I have 92 000 save on points right now 92 000, so how many?

Speaker 4:

save on points. Do you have? I don't, what's my wife's account?

Speaker 2:

that's worth 386 bucks oh, there you go.

Speaker 3:

How did you do you have like a, like an app for that?

Speaker 2:

no, I just know that each, each, uh, each one is like worth a certain amount.

Speaker 3:

So can you tell me what my dollar value is?

Speaker 1:

absolutely the green man yeah, you just go to save on, you look at the more or no, the my offers and then when you go shopping you just throw some of those my offers in your you got to load your offers.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, oh is that an app?

Speaker 3:

yep, yes. I don't even have the app. So like, put in perspective, if let's say, you went to load your offers, yeah, oh, is that an app?

Speaker 2:

yep, yes, I don't even have the app. So, like, put in perspective, if let's say you went to save on and spent five hundred dollars during that week, where it's 40 times the points or 15 off, well, 50 off, that's great, right, like what's 50 of 500 bucks, 15, 15, yeah, it's like what? 75 bucks or something, something like that. Let's see here, so that would, that would save you. Um, yeah, like 75 bucks or something like that, right? Whereas if you're looking at 40 times the points, that $500, uh, is going to be 20,000 points, right? So you, that's worth 84 bucks, so you're getting an extra 10 bucks in travel points than if you took it as a 15% off, right? So, again, it's that immediate gratification of seeing 70 bucks off your bill or later on, flying for free somewhere, right so?

Speaker 1:

yeah, I get that uh, but like so, even for example, for our with our atb points, like we've bought some, like we've wasted not what I kind of wasted they're like they're just like you get free things with that, like we got our, we got our. Uh, ninja um mix it.

Speaker 2:

No, not that one, I bought that one but the ninja ninja mixer.

Speaker 1:

We got a bunch of other stuff from it and, like you, if you calculate the dollar value for the points, you want to smash your head through a wall because you but but you don't need to because you're like, nah, these are points, I'm going to use them anyway.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, and that's one of the. The cautions when I first got into this game was don't ever use it for like a blender or anything like that, because the dollar value is they make money off of it right?

Speaker 1:

Sure, but if I need a blender, instead of going to spend $150 on a blender and I'm not going to need those points then why not use the points?

Speaker 2:

Because $150 on the blender could be worth 300 bucks later, traveling right, and if you know you're going to travel a lot. To me it's just better investment using it that way it is so, and then you double it with a credit card that gives you five points per dollar on food and you're laughing. It's almost like you're double dipping.

Speaker 3:

So did you? Did you have like a mentor?

Speaker 4:

no, because you said when I got into this. I was cautioned about you just start goog, start Googling stuff and look at the stats, yeah.

Speaker 2:

So like when I do my old man 25-minute walk in the morning on the treadmill incline, that's the majority of the time planning a trip or looking at different options, right. And then when I first got into the unit in the nursing home where I did a bit of traveling, you stay at a lot of Marriott hotels and stuff like that, right. So that's when I started first got like a Marriott card, cause you get five Marriott points and it's a it's. It's a it's it's bad, it's a game, it is.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you have figured out how to like use the rules of their game, not against them, but like cause, obviously so, obviously like. So save on. Has banked on people like you and me who will cash their 10 000 points in for like a jug of milk for free every time 100.

Speaker 2:

A lot of people do that.

Speaker 3:

I would say majority you have figured out how to work within the rules of that system in a way that's beneficial for you, which is really neat.

Speaker 2:

I wish I was smart well, after this, you'll be flying a cab as well yeah, I don't think so.

Speaker 1:

You're just too lazy I'm not lazy well, you think I'm lazy? Okay, you just said that you wouldn't take, yeah, five minutes. Look at the coupons before you went to save on foods, well, to see what's gonna give you extra points first off.

Speaker 3:

Motherfucker, that's because I've got a kid or the flyer true um and the costco mastercard. Mastercard, I get three percent back on my groceries no, no, that's what I'm not familiar with.

Speaker 2:

So does that just go back to your costco dollars at the end where you get the check?

Speaker 3:

yeah, yeah, okay yeah, and I feel good, like last year was the first year where I got more money than my membership renewal cost. I felt like a baller that's so.

Speaker 2:

It's a net gain for you of like 80 bucks oh bro, it's like 200 we usually.

Speaker 4:

We're sitting at 1200 dollar mark for the whole holy that's the only credit card we use for everything. Like we, every single transaction is a cost, okay, yeah yeah, and there's two.

Speaker 2:

There's two schools of thought, right? A lot of people say I'll pick one card and put everything on that one card. Yeah, the problem is, then you miss out on on other cards that, like I said, give you different multipliers for different, uh, different things.

Speaker 3:

Right, and like how do you pay? Like so I get into the gas station.

Speaker 2:

You oh which credit cards this credit card you just got to know yeah. You just got to know.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, on a shell. I need to use the card that gives me the shell points.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Like when I first started to have like a little spreadsheet and I'd be like, okay, if I get gas or Hilton or United or whatever, right. So if you can find a card that kind of you almost use it like a bank, right, you bank all your points in there and then you can fly them out to like, okay, I'm going to spend two nights at a Marriott somewhere. Let's transfer them to Marriott points and use it that way.

Speaker 3:

You're like a fucking rain man of credit cards.

Speaker 1:

How many credit cards do you have?

Speaker 2:

Four.

Speaker 2:

It's not that bad no, and, like I said, as long as you kind of know and do research on what opening and closing cards can do, like you know, to your credit and keep good eye on your credit and have really good credit and stuff, it makes it a lot easier. But what can it do? So if you were to like, if you were to take a credit card, open it and then close it right away, um, there's a couple things. So there's credit, there's obviously like your payment history, there's, you know, not missing payments, et cetera, et cetera. But one of the biggest ones is a length of accounts, right. So the longer you've had accounts open, it shows that you, you're more stable, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 2:

Right, so, your very first credit card you've ever had, don't ever close that one. Keep that one open forever, even if you don't ever use it. Put, like you know, a bag of Sour Patch Kids on it every month just to just to keep it kind of active. And then the other thing, of course, is obviously not having your credit cards maxed out, because that can affect your ratio to how much credit you have available to what you use, et cetera, et cetera. So, yeah, that's kind of the beginning of it is just knowing how it affects your, how it affects your score and making sure you keep you know, like, as long as you you know you handle credit properly and you're okay with opening, closing credit card. Because some people are like, oh man, if I close this, if I close this card, it's gonna, it's gonna hit my, my score negatively and it might very small amount, very temporarily, but that's the.

Speaker 1:

That's kind of the nature of the nature of the game but I don't know why you would close it if you, if you found like four the four cards, like you say you have four. If you found the four cards, okay, this is like my grocery card, my gas card, my something and my main one. Yeah, uh, like you, why would you close?

Speaker 1:

them um, because a lot of times you can get sign up bonuses, ah, so like, but if you have to be closed for, like, a certain period of time before you could reopen another one and get into the sign up bonus?

Speaker 2:

no, not necessarily, but you have to be careful that you don't have so much open credit, because that also is a. That can also be a bit of a red flag to banks and stuff like that, right. And then, of course, you got to know the differences, like between what a credit card and a charge card and stuff like that, right. What if you're your own bank? I've heard about that. If you're your own bank, can you issue yourself credit?

Speaker 1:

card. I can't. No, I need to get one. What?

Speaker 4:

about points. Do you get yeah?

Speaker 2:

just cool points, those are self-awarded points yeah I get 10 000 points today because I'm so cool and then a lot of it too, is like um, co-workers wife reached out to me the other day because, uh, she got a new job and she's gonna be doing some traveling and she's like, hey, what, like? What card should I use? I'm like, hey, here's a referral link because if you sign up and get a card, I get 10 000 points, right fucking pyramid scheme. So she signed up, got her card and uh and I lied it wasn't the right card yeah, no, she actually texted me the day and she's like I already have enough points to.

Speaker 2:

I got a free night somewhere, so and I got 10 000 points out of it. So, um, yeah, so you just got to know what to use when. What card is that? That was the Marriott Amex.

Speaker 3:

Do you love this?

Speaker 2:

I love it.

Speaker 3:

I love it when.

Speaker 2:

I'm going places and it's not costing me a lot.

Speaker 4:

Isn't there a little bit of a thrill in the chase almost to find the points? It's like Pokemon.

Speaker 1:

Go. You're like screwing the companies.

Speaker 2:

You're like, ha ha, I got a free night here. What are you going to do about it?

Speaker 4:

Let's hope they're not listening. I don't want them to. Oh, they're not.

Speaker 1:

Sponsored by the Marriott. They already don't like you.

Speaker 2:

Let's be honest yeah exactly.

Speaker 3:

You're on there Like you're. Like you're a platinum member, but you're like on their fucking watch list.

Speaker 2:

No one is of the three months or whatever. You get like a hundred thousand points and they're amex points and you can transfer them to anything else. So we, uh, so I signed up for it and like put everything on it, like every little thing, in fact, like to the point where you pay, like your house taxes on it and that sort of stuff. Right, right, you meet your minimum spend, you get your signup bonus and then you close it down a year later before the annual fee, cause it was a pretty hefty annual fee. But again, with that hefty annual fee, you get certain perks too, right, like, you get a $200 travel credit.

Speaker 2:

So my daughter and I um, this is a sidebar, but my daughter wanted to go to Germany to see where my uh, my dad grew up, and I booked one of our flights in europe and I was able to use $200 travel credit to get 200 bucks off. Right, you get a $200 dining credit once, uh, once every calendar year. So that's your 600 bucks. That the sign-up fee was right. So if you're willing to like eat a fee because it's a hefty fee, but you know it's going to come back and then you get the the points for the sign-up bonus, then it's worth it. So I think if you use it, you're laughing, I think bonus, then it's worth it.

Speaker 1:

So I think if you use it, you're laughing. I think just most people. It's, just like the people who are wasting their points on garbage. Uh, they just assume most people aren't going to use the benefits of that card. Right, and I think a lot of people don't even know the benefits of their credit cards. Like some of the things like simple, as a lot of like airports have those special, like fancy little places to hang out in that you probably have access to because of one of your cards, but you just don't even know about it 100 and yeah, so one of the, the one card I have.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you get access to the lounge, you get, so right away you're not paying for, like dinner or whatever. So it all adds up right. Right, priority boarding. It's nice oh priority get through fast, get through quick, and then you don't have to sit uh in like those little tiny chairs with the, with all the. You know, you know, randos.

Speaker 1:

Exactly, you're going to book that flight to Vegas and I'm going to be stuck in the back and you're going to be right at the front sipping on.

Speaker 2:

No, the nice thing is is I'm allowed to bring a guest into the lounge so you and I can go hang out in the lounge together, free booze and coffee and food, and it's going to be great.

Speaker 3:

We're sitting in the back like a peasant you'll still.

Speaker 4:

You'll be trying to book. Yeah, as I say, if you book your flight bro, it's march, I got time you'll be booking. On the way to calgary, there were more options.

Speaker 1:

So when I went and looked, there was more.

Speaker 3:

There were more options before, like about two months ago, than there are now see, my approach to traveling is a lot different than easy's, because I am a firm believer that if I leave it to the very last minute, they might like throw a deal out at you. Like, oh, like, we need to fill this plane, it's the opposite.

Speaker 1:

They're like this idiot.

Speaker 3:

This idiot waited too long and didn't and, like people, always try and sit at the front of the plane but, like studies would suggest, the back of the plane is the safest place to be so I think you're dying, no matter what, either way, no, no more people live in the back of the plane, that's actually true, true, no, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Okay, but we're talking about like falling out of the sky. You're dying.

Speaker 3:

Well, yes, but if the plane impacts the ground, you're more likely to live.

Speaker 2:

You're talking like touchdown.

Speaker 4:

If a plane impacts the ground, no one's living.

Speaker 3:

Well, it depends how it impacts the ground. Every time you land, the plane impacts the ground.

Speaker 4:

Oh, you're actually right 32% fatality rate.

Speaker 2:

That's actually not bad 38% up front. That 6% could be it. Yeah, you know what yeah, whatever.

Speaker 4:

You're splitting hairs, but you win.

Speaker 1:

I don't care where I sit on the plane usually, except for when you're in a hurry, like at the back of the plane, or those people that stand up as soon as they land. They stand up and then the aisle and you're like you're gonna wait your turn, like every other person, to file out, but they have to block the whole aisle.

Speaker 2:

That drives me crazy it's my biggest pet peeve and I've almost gotten to fisticuffs with people about that very thing on planes.

Speaker 3:

I can imagine people suck on airplanes. Well, we flew back from Canada's armpit last month with my child and my wife, also known as a Winnipeg. It was the first time, so I was on a plane and we boarded early because we had a child and because we're peasants. We sat in the back with the three seats, unlike you where you sit in the front with your two seats and you're priority boarding. So we sit down, we get all whatever. And then the last guy on the plane. He's fucking weird. He's wearing sunglasses on the plane, he's got headphones on. Like he's just fucking weird and he's like trying to. It's like a scene. What's that movie with Ben Stiller?

Speaker 4:

Zoolander he's got a couple of them.

Speaker 3:

No, on the plane. I think it's Meet the Fockers. You know, he's like ramming his luggage in and he's like no, it'll fit.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, bomb.

Speaker 3:

Can't say bomb on a plane, yeah so that's basically what this guy's doing is ramming his luggage in, like, and it won't fit. And the lady's like no, like you're gonna have to move it somewhere else. And he has like a flip out and he like fucking slams it under his seat and then sits down and like elbows the chick beside him and like it was the first time, I was like I looked at him and I was like starting to think of myself. I'm like, okay, how am I gonna choke this guy?

Speaker 3:

and then, so you have to play. I asked my wife after and I was like did you see that? And she's like, yeah, I thought I thought something was gonna go down. I was like, fuck me too. I thought I was gonna have to choke somebody on an airplane I think about that a lot on airplanes.

Speaker 1:

I do. I think about it a lot because I think I've seen too many instagrams where there's like people like freak out in airplanes and someone's gotta like choke them out. So I'm always you're gonna have to be the guy I'm always thinking like. I'm gonna have to be one of the guys hopefully not the only one, but I'll definitely gonna be one of the, probably be the only one, so I'm like what am I gonna do here? How's this gonna work?

Speaker 3:

I'm like, oh man, yeah I think a lot right, I think it was a lot and you're like, hey, like I'm gonna do this from behind, like yeah, and if you ever do do that, make sure you reach out to the airline and try to get.

Speaker 2:

Does anyone?

Speaker 1:

have any duct tape? Yeah, does anyone have duct tape? Yeah, because that's the thing Like you're not going to be able to hold, you're not going to hold him the whole time, so you're going to have to have something to secure him.

Speaker 3:

I think you can hold him the whole time, depending on how you do it.

Speaker 1:

Right, but like you wouldn't want to.

Speaker 4:

So you'd want them to have something in the plane. There has to be right. You would think so Like a Con Air style thing With a Hannibal mask on.

Speaker 1:

There's got to be, because I was like, yeah, you're not going to just hang on to the dude's neck for the whole three hour flight. Choke him unconscious every ten minutes when he wakes up. Sorry, back to sleep yeah anyway.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I don't like being confined in a tube with like a hundred and some people that I have no information about.

Speaker 4:

No, that's not a big deal. You just sit there and you just fucking zone out and watch a movie.

Speaker 1:

Put my headphones on sleep.

Speaker 4:

Actually, I look forward to it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, until there's a problem.

Speaker 3:

Nobody's coming to see you. It looks like they have zip ties.

Speaker 4:

That's about it. Okay, that'll work, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I wonder what security would think if you tried to bring zip ties on a plane, just in case. Yeah, this is just in case someone gets out of hand or gets lippy with their luggage.

Speaker 4:

Along with my tourniquet. Oh, they can't say no.

Speaker 2:

That's not metal, it's not a knife.

Speaker 3:

Well, let's be real. Airport security is a joke, oh yeah.

Speaker 1:

It's the illusion.

Speaker 4:

I don't understand the reasoning besides some of the rules.

Speaker 1:

That's because there is no reason. It doesn't make any sense. It's the illusion.

Speaker 4:

Are there air marshals on every flight? No, that's an international. Well, how do they pick and choose?

Speaker 2:

I don't know they hit that random comment generator.

Speaker 3:

It's like random flight generator. Which one are we protecting? Which one are we going on? I guarantee you, I also don't have. I wouldn't say I, I have a faith in the air marshal's ability. Well on like a 14-hour flight.

Speaker 4:

I feel like there has to be somebody on that plane that has some kind of authority. You would hope You'd think, unless the pilot, because he's got a uniform on.

Speaker 1:

But then so how does? Yeah, I don't know how does that work for like jurisdiction if it's going across, I'm sure there's some.

Speaker 4:

Is it like an international waters type thing, anything goes, so like they're good until they land. They're like well we're landed, you got us there. Yeah, how does that work?

Speaker 3:

But here's the thing Like we go through airport security, like fucking CAATSA, tsa is apparently just as bad, because unfortunately I don't travel like you. I don't really deal with TSA all that much. But CAATSA, they hire the worst people.

Speaker 2:

Is people, is it not cbsa? No, it's like cats. It's air transportation safety authority and, interestingly enough, so katsa is just kind of the government agency, but they contract out private security firms, right, so it could be like joe blow's guardian security.

Speaker 3:

It's literally a security guard wearing a katsa uniform oh, really yeah okay, and then. So, like we, what did we have? We had, uh, something baby related breast milk oh man, I don't even know. And then they're like swabbing it, and then they're like, oh, like I think they made us throw it out, or something like that. And I was just like what do you think we're gonna do?

Speaker 4:

yeah, like, this is not a bomb, this is not a bomb so the country where the airplane takes off, because of the tokyo convention, states that that's. That's the laws. So if we take off from Canada, the laws are in Canada. But if you take off from the States and this is a situation where someone was born on a flight they actually have nationality from the country that they took off in, if they were born on that plane.

Speaker 2:

What if it was like a horrible country, like just some?

Speaker 4:

Well, if it's too bad Eritrea, too bad Eritrea. Eritrea.

Speaker 1:

That'd be kind of cool, though Obviously still I don't know you'd have citizenship.

Speaker 4:

Yeah right, and people do that. You might give me a duel, you'd think.

Speaker 3:

If it wasn't so expensive to have your child in the States.

Speaker 1:

I feel like a lot of people would just go down there like right around the time you're about to. I can't imagine how expensive, like thousand bucks even if you have insurance, although I thought it'd be more than that.

Speaker 2:

That's like if you have the gucci insurance, wow that's insane.

Speaker 3:

That is insane. I would pay like two tops about 20 grand without insurance.

Speaker 1:

Yes, that's the average. That's what I thought it would, be around 20 you're geez, okay, that's a whole other discussion. We are kind of lucky, can we put that on the credit card? Yeah, hey, you gotta figure out which card he is yeah.

Speaker 2:

Which hospital card gets those?

Speaker 1:

points yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but you gotta be willing to use that card for everything from your $1 chocolate to your daughter's $6,000 tuition.

Speaker 1:

Like you put everything on it. So we use our card literally for everything and then just pay it off.

Speaker 4:

I'm going to start getting more credit cards.

Speaker 1:

I think I have two just randomly get some like make sure you get the right one.

Speaker 4:

Oh, I'm gonna. We're having a discussion well I need a.

Speaker 3:

I need you to hold my hand, because I have a west jet mastercard that I basically don't use and then you have that rbc cashback one yeah, and costco, which I don't use, and then I have costco. How did you know that weird?

Speaker 4:

yeah, what, yeah, what.

Speaker 2:

It's really weird I think you gave me your card once to use for something, uh and you know what, the RBC cashback one like.

Speaker 3:

I had that back during one of my my business ventures. It was a business credit card. I just kept it and they never. There's no actual stipulation that like you have to like still have a business to have a business credit card yeah. So the cashback on that is I guess I get a little bit back.

Speaker 2:

But but again, card that only.

Speaker 3:

You get a statement credit in january of every year because, if so, that's garbage, right, well, I apparently I didn't know, yeah you want to find a cashback card that you can then use for whatever you want later, type thing yeah, but see, I need a credit card. I want to get rid of my west jet mastercard because it's fucking useless was it your first card? No, okay, I canceled, bro. I think you think I sold my first credit card, he might, no, no, no.

Speaker 3:

I actually felt really dumb when you made that like that recommendation keep your first credit. Like I got rid of that a long time ago.

Speaker 2:

Again, it just, it just increases your length of your, the length of your accounts, right, so it just keeps your credit good.

Speaker 4:

My first one was an American Express. Whatever happened to that?

Speaker 2:

You can still, you can still use them, they still around certain places you can't but I would suggest probably the best card for travel right now is an american express.

Speaker 4:

It's the, the cobalt card you can't use it for, like you never see it anymore. Like people don't accept it up here, do they use it at save on. They use it at same, yeah five points a dollar is that the?

Speaker 2:

charge card no, that's a different amex what's the? Difference. Uh, so the difference is being that a credit card, you can carry a balance, right, um, so you don't have to pay it every month, but then you're paying interest, whereas a charge card you have to have it paid off every month. But a charge card is different because on your credit it doesn't, it's not considered.

Speaker 1:

It's not considered a credit card on your credit, so it's not like it doesn't affect your score the same way as a credit card would yeah, yeah, scotia bank platinum amex card up to two thousand one hundred dollars in bonus value yeah, I don't know much about the.

Speaker 2:

I try to stay away from the bank ones. For amex, I try to just use the amex one specifically. Um. So like the one I have that I that I got the big sign up bonus for once, the year's up, I'm not going to pay the fee again. I'll just cancel it because it's a charge card. It's not going to ding my credit for for for closing down an account or anything.

Speaker 1:

So interesting yeah.

Speaker 2:

But if anyone like, if anyone wants like their first, like good travel card, the Amex Cobalt, and if you want I'll send you a referral link.

Speaker 3:

So whoever's listening, I will get.

Speaker 2:

I will get the, the, the points and it's, it's honestly, it's amazing lounge access you get five dollar, you get five points for food and uh, for food and restaurants and stuff, right. So if you're spending well with the cost of food nowadays, it's easy to spend what a thousand bucks a month on food, right? So that's five thousand points a month, sixty thousand points a year and you can turn that into anything. You can transfer it to aeroplan for flights, you can turn it to the hotels uh, it's got a whole bunch of different options.

Speaker 2:

So three, three x points on streaming subscriptions yeah, I mean streaming subscriptions are usually fairly low, so you're not going to see a ton of value in that but and I think that's a way they try to get people who are maybe more millennials that do a lot of streaming right because you can get more points. But yeah, it's the five. Honestly it's the five times, it's the five points per dollar on on food that is really, really good.

Speaker 3:

Do they have credit cards for people who don't like to travel?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Like well, cashback ones, yeah, cashback ones. Or if you, you know, if you, if you only fly with WestJet, or if you only fly with Air Canada, then there's nothing wrong with the WestJet card, Like you can. Again, it's just. It's just a matter of not being able to use those points for everything, right.

Speaker 1:

Tax points for everything. Right, taxes and fees because you save on like baggage and stuff. I think with west jet see that's, west jet used to be so good and they're just hot garbage. You know what? Um, the flight we we went to the cancun fight was west jet and that plane was amazing. It was like it was way bigger than the sun when we took the year before, uh, but it was like the three, three and three. It was gigantic and they all had. They had like the headrest movies, they had like games in the headrest, like it was. It made the flight a lot more enjoyable than the little crappy like three, three.

Speaker 1:

Well if it had three, three and three seats.

Speaker 3:

That would be a big plane. It was gigantic, it was huge, it was like 40 rows.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, 40 rows.

Speaker 3:

It was way bigger than I thought it would be Because, like we flew when we went to the Dominican, we flew on a 737 and it was awful.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 4:

Truly awful yeah.

Speaker 1:

Like I thought I was going to.

Speaker 3:

I never want to go back to the Dominican after those flights. I do, but not via Toronto. That's the only way to do it.

Speaker 1:

No, well, you go through the States.

Speaker 3:

The guy I worked with just went direct. Did they change that? Because they, yeah, he went direct from calgary five hours or something like that.

Speaker 1:

It changes all the time right? Yes, because it took us. What did they like? Four hours to toronto and then six to dominican, it was something stupid.

Speaker 3:

It was like I think we traveled for 12 hours, it was, so we also rode the bus yeah.

Speaker 2:

So let me ask you guys this if you could fly direct or if you had to add on an extra, say two and a half hours for a layover but you could do it for cheaper or free or for less points what would you do?

Speaker 3:

direct. I'm cheap as fuck, so you would do the layover yeah, direct yeah, I, I'm with you. I'm with you, cj well, that's like well, I flew to winnipeg and so it was cheaper to drive to the big city beside us and wait then oh yeah, but flying out of flying out of here is way more expensive totally and don't ever do it.

Speaker 1:

It's no, you think about a couple times.

Speaker 2:

Think about it this way if, if a flight carrying 30 people, uh, is broken down, or a big triple seven carrying 500 people's broken down, they're always going to fix the big one first, right. And if you have only two flights a day coming into our city, there's. I mean, I've heard like a co-worker of mine had like spent like almost two days in calgary and I was like why didn't you just call me?

Speaker 1:

I would come pick, have picked you up, right I missed a flight, uh, from calgary back here, and they were just like yep, yep, sorry, like what do you mean? Like nothing? Like no, no, it wasn't. Uh, it was because it wasn't there. I can't remember it wasn't their error or something else. It was like whether they were just like yeah, no, we're not gonna give you any hotel vouchers or anything.

Speaker 4:

I love the. It is what it is attitude the airlines have. It is amazing.

Speaker 3:

It's because they've become too big.

Speaker 4:

What are you going to?

Speaker 3:

do. Are you a pilot? I don't think so.

Speaker 2:

You've got to be willing to fight, you've got to be able to send a lot of strongly worded letters, as my wife likes to say, and if you're able to, if you're able to spend a lot of time and effort, uh and cause. We had an incident with air Canada where our luggage got lost and we had to spend money and then they wouldn't repay us and we had to fight and, like I, there's letters to the MPs and all sorts of stuff, but the end result was that they gave us a 30% credit that we could use anytime in the next three years, right, but again, they're so, like you said, they're so reliant on people just giving up, right, right, not wanting to fight the man or anything like that, but if you're willing to just be obtuse about it.

Speaker 3:

usually you can get something out of it Obtuse. I sent a letter to my MP a couple weeks ago and she never answered.

Speaker 4:

Oh, did you now I did. What was it about? What was it about? If you want to share, yeah, I don't care.

Speaker 3:

I could probably summarize it in one sentence Stop sending my money to Ukraine.

Speaker 1:

Yep.

Speaker 4:

She didn't answer no you miss 100% of the shots you don't take so that's okay 100%.

Speaker 2:

Tiger Woods. A few other people said that I think.

Speaker 3:

Speaking of the Dominican, have you noticed or have you seen, like the chaos that's going on on the other side of the island, haiti, haiti, no, I have not Fucked.

Speaker 1:

Well, I saw something about the Canadians. Or they've been telling all the Canadians to leave, but that's about it.

Speaker 3:

Oh, I think it's being. You know you're very wordly. It's like being run by a warlord now yeah, so what the?

Speaker 2:

they pushed the president out what a year and a half ago. And then the new government came in and now he's been forced to stand down. It's literally being run by gangs right now. Yeah, like they're just roaming the streets and just yeah, it's apparently pretty bad so I don't think you're getting if you're a gang.

Speaker 1:

What is your incentive to running around and killing people other than fear? Power, right, but like what? Are you sure? Power, but like, okay, what are you controlling?

Speaker 3:

just, uh well, think about chaotic I'm sorry, no think about haiti like you're controlling resources, food, water diamonds?

Speaker 2:

yeah, are there diamonds in haiti?

Speaker 4:

I don't know it seems like a place that have diamonds no, I don't think so I'll find it.

Speaker 1:

No, I think it's South Africa. You're thinking in blood diamond, yeah, yeah, you're probably right, gold. There's gold there.

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Cool, yeah, that's scary.

Speaker 2:

And I've had that thought. I'm like you think about it like it's literally just a line, imaginary line.

Speaker 3:

But the difference between the dominican and haiti or any country. And then you think back, like what causes some of these countries to just devolve so massively? Yeah did. Were they infected by the mocha the woke mind?

Speaker 1:

the mocha, the mocha the woke no, I think it's uh not quite gotten there, uh, but I think it's the other side of the problem potentially. I don't know what is the other side of the problem, potentially.

Speaker 3:

I don't know.

Speaker 4:

What is the other side of the problem.

Speaker 1:

Well, you have like the far left and you have far right, and I think they're both equally have problems, see, I can't, there's too much happening.

Speaker 4:

I can't stay. You can't keep up with all this stuff. I can't.

Speaker 3:

I don't Like the thing in Russia. I was like this is really fucked up. I want to learn about this, but then, I had to continue living my life, yeah but it is interesting to know.

Speaker 1:

It's interesting to at least educate yourself somewhat, I think, on these things Like what was this thing to something on the way over here they're talking about. I know we don't need to talk about this but Israel and Palestine.

Speaker 3:

That's an old war, that's old news and that's all.

Speaker 1:

That's an old, that's old news. And and actually it's funny because uh, one of our buddies who moved away to uh near regina, he we were talking in in a chat about that and he was like, oh, he's like, oh, it's pretty easy, like I'm four with this side, and like what do you mean easy? How's that easy? So I end up calling him the next day and we had a long conversation about it, but and I was just like I'm not, like I don't care, like I, but I'm saying, and he's like, yeah, like easy isn't the right word, that's for sure.

Speaker 1:

But he was basically like when does, at what point does the good guy in air quotes become the bad guy? Right, like, so they are, they have a justified reason to maybe try to get back, like after the thing that happened in israel, for sure you're like, yeah, anger, you're justified and going to try to find those people who did that thing. But now, now you've done, you've bombed so many people and killed so many people that it's like not even comparable. And you're like, so at what point is like, at what point have you become the bad guy? Like you've kind of you know what I mean and so it's super complicated. But some people are just like no, it's this way, it's this way, it's either out israel or palestine, or russia, ukraine. You're like it's not. How is it? How is it so black and white in people's minds? I don't understand that side of it, like there's nothing black and white yeah, there's no winners in war.

Speaker 3:

That's the problem for sure.

Speaker 1:

And then again, like perception, like what, what's? From whose perspective are we looking at it from? So we're looking at it from this person's perspective like russia, so we're looking at it from. So we're looking at it from this person's perspective like Russia? So we're looking at it from Russia's, which nobody is. Or we're looking at it from Ukraine's, or the people who say that. They're the people who say it's Ukraine's perspective. But again, we don't know if it's Ukraine's perspective.

Speaker 3:

We're being told that that's their perspective. It's just Captured by the corporate media and the opinions of right Like I just don't want my money going to Ukraine. No, I agree, I don't support this war.

Speaker 1:

Or any war.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, like fucking stop, let's just help our country. How about that? And you know, what would be really interesting is I think the technology exists for us to do a countrywide referendum on these things. Right, like, as far as identity verification it's racist, is it as far as identity verification it's racist? Is it Mm-hmm To know who? Yeah, I guess you're right.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, it is.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that's right, sorry. Yeah, I don't even know if I should talk anymore. I'm going to get cancelled, but like so, let's have a referendum. How many people in Canada Like? 40 million?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 3:

Let's have 40 million people vote and you can vote yes or no to send your portion of taxes to ukraine.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there you go right, yeah, versus your portion of taxes. Go to your local area to help people in your area maybe fix the roads, maybe do some other things maybe some snow plows some snow, if anyone from our city is listening stop, fuck.

Speaker 3:

What is with everybody here? Oh, they don't play on the roads. I don't know how to drive when there's snow in the roads speaking of which, the roads.

Speaker 1:

The roads were like almost 100% fine all the way from Edmonton the other day. Everyone was like oh they're going to be terrible and they were like clear.

Speaker 4:

The in-town roads were not good.

Speaker 1:

They were like where are the snow plows?

Speaker 4:

How many snow plows do you think our city has, like 15. Nine.

Speaker 3:

Okay great. You know how many snow plows I think the city needs One For 15?.

Speaker 1:

Yeah One, we'll get there. When we get there, the two roads, who cares? Buy some winter tires.

Speaker 3:

Everybody in this room has a four-wheel drive vehicle yes.

Speaker 2:

It's a principle of the matter.

Speaker 3:

Like ah. If the roads were plowed, maybe my daughter would have smashed up the car during her driver's test. Why does it bother you that the roads aren't plowed like? Is it the uncomfortableness of a bumpy, and is it?

Speaker 1:

like the. Is it like the residential areas that are making you upset?

Speaker 3:

yes where are my tax dollars? Okay, but I worry about my children

Speaker 1:

but, if you're a snowplow dude and you're trying to drive through residential areas and people are parked all over the place, that's got to suck.

Speaker 2:

I think then you yeah, that's a good point. I mean there are snow routes, and then I mean maybe you need to be militant in vehicles that park on snow routes but Just smash them, just yank them, smash them.

Speaker 3:

Well, also, this is the first snowfall we've had this year and it'll be the last and, like I don't know, it's gonna melt in a couple days.

Speaker 2:

Like, you'll be all right for a few days, you don't need to write letters to city council, you'll be fine, I'm just jumping on a reddit uh thread bandwagon that I saw people were complaining about it and sounded how do you still read that shit? Oh yeah, I mean, yeah, there's a. There's actually a lot of uh, a lot of subreddits about travel and points, so I spent a lot of time on it.

Speaker 4:

Not a bad point.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I'm down with that, but if you're reading local Reddit threads what are they called?

Speaker 4:

Posts, tweets- I do enjoy the local Reddit.

Speaker 1:

I could honestly count on one hand how many minutes I've spent on Reddit in my life.

Speaker 4:

I've been spending more in the last few months.

Speaker 3:

It's fascinating, really it is, it is.

Speaker 4:

I don't know, it's not new, but I've just discovered it.

Speaker 3:

But if you can find the most obscure thing that you're into and there will be a thread If you're like, yeah, I want to learn how to tattoo myself with used ballpoint pens.

Speaker 4:

I'd rather use it than Google. There's probably a thread for that. I would rather use it. I think both of them have no credibility. Just as reliable, it's a bizarre community.

Speaker 3:

for sure, they'll both tell you that Nazis were a bunch of colored people. I saw that. I don't think you can say that anymore.

Speaker 1:

They did an AI. It was an AI post. There was an AI image that they did. It was Nazis who were all DEI-ed Nazis, yeah.

Speaker 3:

It was Google Gemini's AI. Have you seen this? No, I haven't, okay. So this is. This is fucked up. This is the bullshit. Googling google's gemini. Somebody put in like show me a picture of a nazi and because the ai the ai has been infected with the same mind virus.

Speaker 2:

It's like, oh well, I can't show white people, so I'm going to show you nazis that are like people of color google apologizes for missing the mark after gemini generated racially diverse nazis, which is kind of the opposite of what being a nazi was kind of opposite, but that's okay.

Speaker 3:

Missed the point uh, yeah, yeah, that's, that's an understatement ai is very frightening how did we get there, though? Where'd this come from? I was making fun of you. Reddit, reddit, reddit, snowplows thank you.

Speaker 2:

Did you know that our snow plows have funny names? And no, I didn't.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, like uh like they named the vehicle, yeah, like snowy mcplow face and stuff like that, that's pretty cool.

Speaker 1:

Plow face snowy. Mcplow your face. Who named it?

Speaker 2:

I don't know, but your tax dollars were not yours, but our tax dollars went to it, we'll write a letter.

Speaker 3:

Let me see if I can find one of the more fun unique ones, but like for example, JB, there's a thread on Reddit Like if you want to read about cold plunging.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

There's a thread for that. I don't know if I need to know anything else about it, or like I was reading today about how to put a drain in my garage. There's a reddit for that but, like couldn't you go like?

Speaker 1:

youtube and just watch a video.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, but it's really specific. You can get really specific in it because I had a air vent thing under my sink yesterday or two days ago. Sink is claw. Couldn't figure it out. I googled it and you could google the builder and read it and it'll have all the little ins and outs of the plans just from people posting random problems they've had.

Speaker 3:

Oh neat, I like it.

Speaker 4:

I don't know.

Speaker 3:

That's like the nuance you deserve.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, right, yeah.

Speaker 2:

It's like my version of Tik TOK, like my wife will be scrolling through Tik.

Speaker 4:

TOK and I've never really been on it.

Speaker 2:

But I read it.

Speaker 1:

Uh, darth Blader is my favorite. That's a good one, darth Blader. I started watching the Star Wars. What's the word I'm looking for?

Speaker 4:

Is there another TV show? What?

Speaker 1:

would you call the whole thing Like all of?

Speaker 3:

it.

Speaker 1:

Saga.

Speaker 4:

Saga.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like the Anthology. Universe, the universe, I don't know.

Speaker 4:

Who said the word Anthology? I said anthology.

Speaker 1:

I know I've said, you said the word.

Speaker 4:

He's not even listening, but you said anthology too.

Speaker 1:

Okay, anthology, relax.

Speaker 4:

So I started watching it from like in chronological order from the beginning, but like on Disney, because it includes Sorry, like the order the storyline goes in or the movies.

Speaker 1:

Chronological.

Speaker 4:

I don't know, what that means.

Speaker 1:

Storyline Story. I don't know what that means, storyline.

Speaker 4:

Storyline.

Speaker 2:

Thank you. Thank you. This explains why you're going every time to Cold Plunge.

Speaker 1:

Including.

Speaker 4:

TV shows.

Speaker 1:

So including the TV shows, the cartoon TV shows. What's the? First so it's episode one, episode two, and now it's Clone Wars, the cartoon.

Speaker 4:

I like the Clone Wars. I like Rebels, star Wars Is that like an animated show? Yeah, it's another one. So apparently, yes, that's a good show.

Speaker 1:

So it's episode one, episode two, clone Wars, episode three. Then it's like the Bad Batch and then the Rebel. There's like it's gonna take forever.

Speaker 4:

There's another Something popped up the other day. They're making another show.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there's a new one Eclipse, eclipse, and I think it's like it's such an interesting I don't think Star Wars is like you can't be a nerd just because you like Star Wars and it's like, it's like an interesting universe and like the amount put into it, it's crazy but what?

Speaker 3:

what compelled you to suddenly like, do this whole thing? I don't know, do you?

Speaker 1:

read like the books and stuff. Are you that into it? I have read a couple.

Speaker 4:

Okay see, that's where I draw the line.

Speaker 2:

I stick to the movies. I've seen the movies and that's it.

Speaker 1:

The cartoons are actually very good. I don't know how, as an adult, I was just going to say, as a grown man, you watch cartoons.

Speaker 4:

No, I was pumped when my boy got into the reality show.

Speaker 1:

I'm not going to lie.

Speaker 4:

They're really good. The Clone Wars show.

Speaker 1:

No, it's. No, I'm not have you watched.

Speaker 3:

Shogun.

Speaker 2:

I haven't. I know you guys have been telling me I should.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and you just decided to ignore that.

Speaker 2:

That was literally three days ago. Give me some time.

Speaker 1:

It's, yeah, the first three episodes I've seen.

Speaker 2:

What's the Coles Notes version on it?

Speaker 1:

Japan Japan, sixth of the period.

Speaker 4:

Lots of man, buns and samurais kind of thing. Yeah, shoguns, I guess they would be samurais.

Speaker 3:

What's the show is a shogun, a samurai I think a shogun's like the leader. Yes, oh okay, sorry, I think the samurai is like the soldier.

Speaker 4:

I don't know, I don't know. Well, you would know, you watch this show. Well, yeah, I'm re-watching. Breaking bad with my wife yeah, me as well.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, oh yeah, season five that's that's why we started.

Speaker 4:

I couldn't remember who it was, but we were like five episodes. I she's never seen it she's never seen it. I've watched the whole thing. It's so good it's classic.

Speaker 2:

I've never seen it. You've never seen breaking bad. I forgot how good it was. It's amazing. Yeah, yeah, okay, I'll make you a deal I'll watch shogun. If you watch breaking bad, you watch three, three episodes of shogun, yes, and you watch breaking bad I don't know.

Speaker 1:

It's better than that. What is that a crap that you watched when you're sick?

Speaker 3:

oh, fucking the blacklist yeah exactly are you still watching?

Speaker 1:

it no, you should have watched.

Speaker 3:

Breaking my brain was swollen or something that was a terrible show good brain was that was. I left that in the dust as soon as I could stand up again. I also may have watched a pottery show while I was sick, right like my standards were pretty low at that point okay. That being said, though, did you ever want to make like, do pottery, because I really do feel having never done it and yeah, not because of that, like I think, I fucking crush it.

Speaker 1:

It's very phallic in the sense that you can do that over and over again, jerking off, I would love to make my own, like pots and stuff.

Speaker 3:

I would too, but I also just like looking at it. I'm like this shit looks easy. I could do this.

Speaker 1:

I think it would be. It's like skating backwards, it's like landing a plane.

Speaker 3:

I am pretty confident.

Speaker 4:

I could I think you're wrong? I think we get our land planes. We have no incorrect we have, we have, you have the advantage, I believe right, because because he travels because he traveled a lot.

Speaker 3:

So he knows, he knows the feeling, he knows he's been up there you know no well, his sister's also like like an extremely experienced pilot.

Speaker 2:

I asked my sister that I was like hey, if you were like flying, because she's overseas right now working, and I said, if all of a sudden, both captains co-pilot like incapacitated and they're like, is their pilot on board, would you be able to land like a 787? And she's like, yeah, I could do it. See, I would need some help with, like, some of the switches from ground control, but you could do it.

Speaker 4:

No, no, like my sister. Yeah, oh yeah, she could. The pilot, could you ask her, like what an unexperienced person could do?

Speaker 2:

yeah, I can ask her right now. I'll see.

Speaker 4:

If no, I like there, but like with audio help, okay, relax.

Speaker 1:

I asked her this question.

Speaker 4:

What did she say I?

Speaker 1:

spoke to her at your wedding and the first thing I said to her is I have a question for you? And she said, yeah, probably not.

Speaker 4:

Does she know who we are?

Speaker 1:

Yes, I said me and him Pretty capable, because he was there too, and I was like of us, if there's an emergency, land a plane.

Speaker 3:

But she hasn't spent enough time with us to know how capable With help.

Speaker 1:

Yes, no, you're not going to be able to do it.

Speaker 2:

There's videos of people doing it in small planes.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, there you go, there's videos Small planes are easy. I'm going to look it up on Reddit. See how hard, it is.

Speaker 3:

Find the thread. I want to find somebody with a large plane simulator that will. Let us try this.

Speaker 1:

You're going to. Yeah, that'd be fun. Yeah, I'm in, You'd crash it though.

Speaker 4:

There's got to be like one. You can go rent or something.

Speaker 2:

I can hook you up with that.

Speaker 3:

Can you? I think so. Yeah, can you hook up with a large plane like a legit simulator? Yeah, can you really? We'll talk offline. There is a, there's not going to be. Okay, it's, I want something legit. Yeah, I don't want some dude's flight simulator set up in his fucking living room.

Speaker 2:

MSN flight simulator with like a 38 inch screen TV and headphones.

Speaker 4:

MSN flight simulator.

Speaker 3:

Here's a thought. Let's just do it for real. Let's put all the chips down. Cards on the table.

Speaker 4:

Well, I'm confident. I'm not that confident, but well, there's only if I can sit in the back and you have to sit in the front I am not confident and I will not be partaking. Oh I'm excited.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm all in I failed physics so I'm not the guy to do it. How'd you do in physics?

Speaker 3:

um, I did pretty good when I went oh okay, I high school was pretty optional for me, unfortunately I don't think that's how it works. Yeah, and my grades reflected that. Oh I, yeah, I. Sometimes I wonder what life would be like if I could go back and try.

Speaker 4:

I wonder that a lot.

Speaker 3:

Right, yeah, the problem is is when you're 18, your brain. It's really been bugging me lately thinking about like that we allow kids to make adult like decisions at the age of 16 to 18. It's insane, it's bizarre, it is insane. Hardly describes it like the fact that we even let it's been really bugging me lately that we let kids drive like like we let kids 16 drive a fucking missile. Well, they're cars, but yeah, well, it's a missile drive a fucking missile.

Speaker 1:

Well they're cars.

Speaker 3:

but yeah Well, it's a missile.

Speaker 1:

Well.

Speaker 4:

By definition. I would say it's probably not. Anything's a missile if you move it fast enough yeah exactly, and the 16-year-olds definitely.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I just I can't believe we let people with undeveloped brains make adult decisions.

Speaker 2:

It's terrifying now for having children that are driving, because I think about how I was when I was 16 and driving it keeps me up at night.

Speaker 3:

I think we talked about this last podcast, maybe, or the podcast.

Speaker 2:

I don't remember?

Speaker 3:

Do you even listen to our old podcast Sometimes?

Speaker 4:

I do.

Speaker 3:

Thank you.

Speaker 2:

It's only because you have to.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 4:

Do you have to? I did last night when I was at the nursing home. I had an air buddy and during some stuff I was doing? Why were you at the nursing home last night Just helping people out with some running stuff?

Speaker 2:

Like orthopedic rehabilitation or what.

Speaker 4:

There was an optional thing where I had to stand outside for three hours, so I had an air buddy.

Speaker 2:

Just one. Which one were you listening to?

Speaker 4:

I finished the Shannon one. I like that.

Speaker 3:

I think you could land a plane.

Speaker 1:

You couldn't. Well, you don't know that I'm pretty confident.

Speaker 4:

No, I think you could, it's just.

Speaker 3:

I've watched so many videos and then you have up and down.

Speaker 4:

Why are humans Like?

Speaker 1:

why do we think that we can do things that we've never done before?

Speaker 3:

I just got to be coding Ego it's like.

Speaker 4:

Confidence and skills.

Speaker 1:

What was I? Just? I was just reading something where it was somebody who was saying that Like it was a female athlete and they were like All the time they get dudes who are like just your average non-athletic person who's like, oh yeah, I could, I could beat them at that thing, and they're like professional, like athletes, and it makes no sense because there's no chance they would have.

Speaker 3:

That's like dudes who probably think they should fight shannon that one completely.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, this isn't gonna go well completely, but that's, but that's for sure. That's a bit of an eye-opener, to be honest, it's not like that. I thought that. So we had those conversations, I think a long time ago. Like Ronda Rousey, could you survive one round with Ronda Rousey? I don't think you could, absolutely not I think I could.

Speaker 3:

Are you serious?

Speaker 4:

Yes, I think there's a whole other level there.

Speaker 1:

See this is where I Are. This is where I are you screwing with me?

Speaker 1:

I don't know, I don't have a legitimate answer to that. Okay, because here's my because. Here's the thing, because, honestly, before training with Shannon, I kind of I think I was on that page, I think I could survive around, but now, having trained with her and knowing what, like the level of athlete that Ronda was not saying Shannon isn't but like black belt, judo gold medalist, like all these things, she's a different, she's a crazy level. Right, I don't think that, I don't think you could. Yeah, you're probably right, like and like, because fighting with Shannon, who's fairly new, to be honest, she's a freak of nature but like she's fairly new at the game and she can kick our ass.

Speaker 3:

Yeah and sure, like I don't know why human beings overestimate their ability to do things, especially things that they have no previous experience doing, because I think the learning curve in a new skill is like day one you get humbled every time, so that's probably like where you're missing it's like the uh internet trolls who call out some of those fighters and then they like actually show up with a gym and then the fighters just beat them to death yeah, hilarious.

Speaker 3:

Um yeah, I don't know why we we over masturbated, but I will say that I can land a plane.

Speaker 4:

I've watched a lot of videos of people. There was a study there was a study in 2022 where they took 780 people and they put it into a. They gave you a four minute video, like showing you stuff, and had somebody on the mic talking them through, and at the end of it, their results were they were a hundred percent useless wow on a seven, so they all crashed the plane 780 people.

Speaker 1:

That's a lot but you're good but you're the one, you're the one, you're the one were you an air cadet.

Speaker 2:

That smile tells me you were. This is where it's coming from. Oh, I was such a nerd the little brain and everything you were the runway guy too, weren't you with the, with the?

Speaker 4:

sticks the pylons yeah, I yeah so you know how the planes sound I do?

Speaker 2:

I do have ears. Did you do this a lot and then like when they, when the tips touch?

Speaker 3:

you touch the tips and then the plane stops because the plane is finished?

Speaker 1:

What if it doesn't stop as the tips touch?

Speaker 3:

Well, you, just you go until you can't go any further Okay.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, you'd be great at landing a plane let me tell you.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I just, I think I could. I want to try it and if I, maybe we could video it, because if I fuck this up, I will, you will, I will I won't.

Speaker 2:

I would bet money we'll play the audio on the podcast for sure.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, this is amazing. Yes, you'll bet money against me. Yes, that's not very supportive of you.

Speaker 1:

I support you, but what is okay.

Speaker 3:

So what is something you guys think you could do, that like everybody else thinks you can't do?

Speaker 4:

that you've never done before.

Speaker 1:

Yeah I don't know. I have to think about that. Maybe I'll come back to you next time about that, because I will not be able to think because you can do everything.

Speaker 3:

No, have you ever been scuba diving? No, have you no really that surprised me. I would have bet money.

Speaker 2:

You've been scuba diving no, I, I'd like to try it, but, um, I don't know, I'm uh, it might be a phobia of some sort I'm a little bit scared of it.

Speaker 3:

I did it in the pool once, it was fun, but I don't think when the blackness of the ocean, I don't think I'd want to do that that uh free dive, uh documentary.

Speaker 1:

You scared the crap out of me.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, I'm not watching that do you think you could out free dive a free diver?

Speaker 1:

No.

Speaker 4:

I out-held my breath.

Speaker 2:

Your children don't count.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, that's what it was. We had a competition this morning at the Y it was like 30 seconds. I crushed them all. They actually got words like Dad, are you okay? I'm like yeah, I'm good 25 seconds. It was about that.

Speaker 1:

Your Wim Hof didn't help.

Speaker 4:

You didn't get like three minutes.

Speaker 1:

Oh no, I think it was probably about a minute, I think which, which is weird, it's like a minute underwater is different than a minute just laying down on the mat. Yes, it is. Why is that? I don't know. Psychological, I think a little bit yeah I think it is, but I was a pressure on like I was.

Speaker 4:

I got up a big gas bear. I was like this. That was only about, I think it's like 50 seconds or something like that.

Speaker 3:

Are you still? Are you Wim Hofing?

Speaker 4:

No, we got to get back into that yeah.

Speaker 2:

Like the cold plunge we have just completely stopped, can't, wim Hof, when you're on vacation? The?

Speaker 4:

difference is yeah, you can't Wim Hof.

Speaker 3:

You can't sell me your Wim Hof at a discount. I'm not selling you anything. What about your Ninja Creamy? You still, yeah, yeah, I'm not. My wife is the best. We gotta get tony one. We gotta find him a good deal, I would like to try it.

Speaker 1:

He doesn't like tony and a good deal he doesn't like deals.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, canada right now has the deluxe on.

Speaker 1:

Hold on. Is it not more expensive? I want it to be more expensive because it's the got, the one extra option.

Speaker 4:

It's a, as he would say, it's the gucci one. It's gucci, so I'm gonna buy it and it is a hundred dollars off right now.

Speaker 2:

All you need to do is put the word Yeti on the Ninja.

Speaker 3:

Creamy and Tony will buy two of them, guaranteed.

Speaker 2:

It's true.

Speaker 3:

The Yeti Creamy.

Speaker 2:

Were you there when Tony was talking about buying the Yeti dog bed.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, did he buy it?

Speaker 2:

I don't know if he ever did, but we shamed him.

Speaker 1:

There's a Yeti dog bed.

Speaker 2:

Apparently and. Yeti dog dishes and stuff like that it's triple the price of a regular dog bed.

Speaker 3:

Well, and fucking Yeti, because I got another friend like that Like Yeti has done something to brainwash people Because they basically just took a Coleman cooler and like, put like smoother plastic on the outside of it and some latches and then have I feel like it's better quality than like a Coleman, like where are you going, that you need your? Food to stay cold for that long camping camping for three days you've never been camping for three tenting. No, I've never tented for three days. Oh wow, yeah, me neither really who tents we?

Speaker 4:

used to tent a lot. We did a tent tour of the states, my wife and I.

Speaker 3:

What amazing yeah and I would have loved it. I would have loved it. I would have loved the yeti. I would have loved the yeti then okay, maybe, so you are part of a small niche group of people that could benefit from a cool.

Speaker 4:

I think a lot of people tent.

Speaker 3:

No.

Speaker 1:

No, maybe one night or in the backyard. I feel like a lot of people tent.

Speaker 3:

The last time I slept in a tent air cadets, yeah close to. I think I was 16 trying to, trying to get some in a tent.

Speaker 4:

That can't be fun.

Speaker 3:

Air mattress air mattress when you're 16 bro yeah, yeah, I guess it doesn't matter hard ground sure a bed of lava rocks. Okay, um, yeah, I didn't know that, but anyways, I think yeti has done something to brainwash people, because the people that like yeti, yeah, like, oh, yeah, like I need to get Yeti branded rims for my truck Like that's the degree of crazy that Yeti lovers.

Speaker 2:

It's like Stanley right now with their cups.

Speaker 3:

Are they back?

Speaker 2:

Well, apparently they're huge down in the States amongst a certain demographic.

Speaker 3:

Fucking Yeti. What is that? Demographic?

Speaker 4:

Oh, the Stanley.

Speaker 3:

Mugs, stanley Mugs.

Speaker 4:

Like the big mugs? Is it one of the groups?

Speaker 3:

we're not allowed to talk about now.

Speaker 4:

Because they look different. Rich white females yeah, rich white females, that's pretty much it. Yeah, it's a new thing. What, yeah, these Stanley Mugs? It looks like my.

Speaker 3:

Yeti here, but there's a handle on the side.

Speaker 4:

That's all the what. Yeah, these stanley mugs they have like a hand it looks like my yeti here that all like the fucking roofers and framers used to have. Yeah, that's it, yeah and now?

Speaker 3:

no, not, not the cool ones like that.

Speaker 4:

They like, they're like a big to-go cup and they come in different colors and they every month they release a different color and everyone has to buy them what I have not seen.

Speaker 1:

These, oh they're, they're an obsession they're like like 78 are you?

Speaker 3:

seeing this on TikTok.

Speaker 4:

No, it's an Instagram thing.

Speaker 3:

Are you back on TikTok? Oh God, yeah. After I won that bet with Tony, I just downloaded it right away.

Speaker 1:

I love it, I love it.

Speaker 4:

Take my shit, China.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, Mormons momfluencers and preteen girls play in the current Stanley Cup craze. What world did Mormons play in that? Rich white girls uh, that makes sense. So you can say that because they're white and and yeah yeah, yeah, you can, you can disparage them, it's okay okay, I wasn't sure you can yeah, no, it's society's cool as long as you disparage white people all right, we're good, I got.

Speaker 4:

I got white friends, we're fine. I uh been watching a lot of ncaa basketball this uh when is the? When is March? Matt, I have no idea.

Speaker 2:

Is it on now? It's currently on.

Speaker 3:

It is.

Speaker 4:

March I did watch some highlights of a female basketball player who was yeah, she's huge, but she's crushing it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, let's just check, she's probably 250. And she's making it down the court and stuff like oh, she's making it down the court and stuff like oh, she's moving, like she's got 40 points in one game, really yeah.

Speaker 3:

I, I, can, I struggle to think of a sport I could give less of a fuck about the basketball.

Speaker 1:

Uh, I used to be that way and then I just got drug along cause my wife likes it and my daughter loves it. And now my kids both my kids are playing it, so I playing it, so I kind of like watching it now it's fun to watch in.

Speaker 1:

Uh, in person too, yeah, I, unless you get a speeding ticket one time. Uh, yeah, it's been, it's been fun to watch. It's interesting because the so the ncaa, uh women's games are actually selling for, like, I think, double the price for tickets than the men's games are right now, because of all the caitlin clark is like probably the best. Do you know you? Know, okay, she's like, uh, I don't even know she basically broke every record. She's shooting threes from basically just over half court, like it's pretty great it's pretty crazy, she's got.

Speaker 1:

I can't remember how many threes she got this year, uh, but she's uh a huge draw. And then there's like lsu on last year, so there's a whole bunch of like. Anyway, the women's side of the ncaa march madness is like way getting way more attention than the men's, which is the first time that's ever happened. So it's kind of interesting cool and my daughter, obviously, and my, my wife, are just washing the crap out of it.

Speaker 2:

So I saw the highlights from one game and it was like a blowout, like like 92 to 29.

Speaker 1:

It was just yeah, there's some of those, because they have, like this, like one seed versus 16 or whatever. Yeah, it's fun to watch, though, but I was that came up because you were talking about the rich white kids and that the Utah team was like one of the only teams. That's basically all white girls, all Mormons.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, pretty sure they're doing amazing.

Speaker 1:

I can't remember, I don't know. It's on the second round, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Well, they're God's chosen team. That's what I was going for.

Speaker 1:

Utah still ended, I think, but I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, have you guys seen the Key and Peele sketch with all the football player names? Oh, I love it and at the very, very end, because it's you know it names all these guys and their various unique names and what university they play for, and then at the end it's like john smith byu and it's like the only white guy in the sketch.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's hilarious and mormons are great at basketball they can be uh, my daughter went to a tryout for the uh junior pronghorns team and, uh, it was like it was good for her to see because, like they, that age group there was like. Um, my wife was like, yeah, there was like these top 15 girls that were just so good. It was hilarious, like it was just ridiculous, like the little 13, 14 year old girls who are just running down the court throwing threes, and my daughter's not there yet. She loves playing but she's not at that level and so it's just interesting to see.

Speaker 1:

And they're all Raymond Sterling from all those areas, but they've just been playing since they were four it's pretty interesting it's interesting how your geography dictates the sports you're good at, which is completely because it's just like what is your community into and if your community is like that and it's literally you do that from the minute you wake up to you know or you, and not only that, but you get used to playing with people, right.

Speaker 1:

So, like even those teams, you go play that school team. But the thing is, those, those kids have been playing together for sports for the last however many years, yeah, and so there's like just that awareness of people. Like when I grew up, actually we were right, we had got lucky, and there's a whole bunch of people who played sports together from the time I was like grade 4 to grade 12 and by the time we got to grade 10, 11, 12, we were like winning things that against city teams that we shouldn't have been winning, but it's just because we had such good chemistry with each other, because we played every sport together, and so we like won provincials in a couple of sports that were like, if it's a tiny little town, it was weird to do, but it's just yeah, you just get used to playing together or uh.

Speaker 2:

As you guys know, we do the yearly uh boys trip basketball. Last year we did denver. I know you're not a huge basketball fan, but if we went somewhere cool like saw the knicks play in new york, would you be interested?

Speaker 3:

because that's where we're talking. We're throwing that around for next time. How much time do I have to plan, oh?

Speaker 2:

my god, he'll book his ticket the day before yeah it could be november, or could be march or somewhere in between um, actually we talked about this, I think, last podcast.

Speaker 3:

My gripe is with the travel schedule that you guys seem to impose on yourselves that's changed recently has it. Yeah, it's no longer driving through the night and all that stuff, because that was bananas, it was fine it's not it's.

Speaker 2:

It's fine, but like it's not that was how we sold it to our wives, right yeah, and I get that and it was different, like when I and she this is the thing you're going to come in.

Speaker 1:

You're coming into that because you're going to have a young child oh, I know whereas, like for us that was why we did it because our, our kids were young, so it was like I felt like bad leaving with my wife with two little kids, but now it's like I can go for four days and it's fine this is part of the reason I'm having trouble in Vegas right now.

Speaker 3:

It's cause like it is not a small thing for us to like be like, hey, we're leaving our kid. Like we're going to Vegas, we're going to leave our kid, just it's a stomach walk I have a solve for that bring her with do not bring her what is what's?

Speaker 1:

your self I told I said it last time and if I say it twice in a row I'm gonna get in a lot of trouble.

Speaker 2:

I'm not gonna be invited back to your house oh, I think I know, just go without taylor yeah but if you do that, you gotta you have to lay the groundwork for her to go on a girl's trip yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3:

Well, the problem is, I have two tickets yeah, that is a problem all right, I probably saw one oh you did get two, I thought you didn't yeah, I did, I hope I did. I should check.

Speaker 1:

I thought you did you even buy your tickets I thought you didn't I want to say I see, at the time I thought that you said you weren't getting one for her and she was going to do something else while we were at the thing. That's what I remember.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, because maybe I thought your wife was going to come and then now it's just getting awkward.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, she threw it out there and then she was like no.

Speaker 1:

I thought for some reason that you only got one ADCC ticket. That's just what I thought.

Speaker 2:

So check into that. Can I give you a little piece of advice? Uh, cj you can always give me a piece of advice one of my maybe one of the reasons why I love to travel now is because I never had a chance or never made an effort to do it before in my previous life. Take time to like leave your child with someone and go on some trips with your wife but not this one. Yeah, just not this one other ones, but not this one, if you can. Uh, sorry you're welcome.

Speaker 1:

If you're listening to that, you are welcome to come I'm just trying to get him to book tickets. I'm sorry, I just want him to come and that's all.

Speaker 2:

That's all like we want, like I want, to come. We love her and we want her to be there I want to come.

Speaker 3:

I see a text where um one of the persons we're going with told me how much money I owed him for the tickets how much was it?

Speaker 2:

um 177 you got one. You got one ticket. Yeah, oh yeah, you got one ticket if.

Speaker 4:

It just solved your problem. I feel like I sent him that. Just check your banks.

Speaker 3:

Well, that's what I'm going to do right now. I'm going to check. We should really answer this.

Speaker 1:

But have you not gotten that ticket transferred over to you?

Speaker 3:

What? How would I get it transferred to me?

Speaker 1:

Did you pay him for the ticket?

Speaker 3:

I don't know. I hope so because, like if you haven't.

Speaker 1:

So when once, once, I paid him you stop yelling at me he uh transferred the ticket to me because it's on my app that you have to get.

Speaker 2:

I can't remember he hasn't done that to me. Yeah, maybe you should probably look into that have you guys not paid for your tickets?

Speaker 3:

no, I paid for it maybe taylor can have my ticket then well, shit, anyway, we can deal with this. Yeah, this, this doesn't seem like a podcast this is the second time, second podcast.

Speaker 2:

I've always done this we just get dragged completely out of podcasting but whatever you do, do not bring your beautiful daughter I will not.

Speaker 3:

It's just complicated. I and I I have a new respect for the struggles that a lot of parents have gone through, despite being the very infancy of this parenting thing.

Speaker 3:

Um, it's, having a third human being you're responsible for really fucks a lot of your plans up weird yeah, and like totally responsible for well, and the other thing is and I I actually didn't plan for this, it's awesome I didn't realize how much I enjoyed like hanging out, like with her and I'm sure it'll get more as she gets older but like because I remember we used to work with people, the nursing home would be like hey, bro, you want to come out for beers? And they'd be like no, like I just want to go home and see my kid, and I'd be like loser, loser. And then now I'm that guy, they're like hey, you're coming over for beer tonight. I was like my kid goes to bed in 45 minutes. Like I get 45 minutes in.

Speaker 2:

Like no, I'm good I'm gonna go home and then there'll be a brief period where it won't be fun to hang out with your kid, and then they'll be back to liking you again, yeah kids are neat yeah, like. Yeah, they go through some phases for sure, like when my oldest all of a sudden decided she liked me again and wanted to hang out. I will take every advantage every chance I can now hang out with her. Wait a minute. Yeah, my brain's getting fully formed again.

Speaker 1:

I've only crashed the car three times yeah, still got a driver's license before 25 yeah we got to change that I think there's other things we should change about decision making for teens and, like before, like voting. Yeah, we don't want them to do that we don't want them to vote.

Speaker 3:

No, no, we don't, no, goodness, no. But we, we don't want them to vote?

Speaker 1:

No, no, we don't. No, goodness, no.

Speaker 3:

But you know what we should let them do?

Speaker 1:

Smoke no.

Speaker 3:

No.

Speaker 1:

Something else Vape, no, something that's even worse than that Fornicate Go to war. No, no. We should let them decide that they're a different gender. Then give them hormones.

Speaker 4:

I was waiting for that to happen.

Speaker 3:

I now believe all the things I just listed. They do not have the cognitive ability to make decisions.

Speaker 1:

Completely. I agree with you, but the thing that we're saying they can do is worse.

Speaker 3:

Are we saying that, though Are we going down this road?

Speaker 4:

No, just write a letter. We're done To your MP. I'm done.

Speaker 2:

Well, it's like when my oldest moved out and she had to pay for some things and she had never had a credit card before and I was like, oh, I can help you out with that, right? So we?

Speaker 3:

here's a referral code. Yeah, have you heard of the amex cobalt?

Speaker 2:

no, we just got her a simple one and I figured we'd get into that game later. But um, so I said, okay, we'll sign you up for this card. We'll get you a low limit, right, so you can't get yourself into trouble. And I went through all the whole make sure you pay it off every month, don't carry a balance, you know interest is bad, blah, blah, blah. And my daughter, who's an adult, said well, how do I pay off my credit card, like, and you? That's when you realize, oh, you're an adult, but you are still and school teaches very dumb.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, totally, I don't teach anything relevant.

Speaker 1:

That's that's been driving me crazy lately. Like like the things that they should they could teach that'd be very easy to teach like simple, like uh expenses and uh paying bills and taxes, and just simple thing concepts. Not even like the fact that you hey because my kid was talking the other day about like uh, you know you got paid and now how come you have to pay so much? Like where'd all that money go? I was explaining like well, I have to pay taxes. And they're like what is what's that? How much is that? And like it's it's a lot. And then you said and they're like what, why did, why did you use all that money go? What? What does government take that money? It's like it's a good question. And then they go it's supposed to be for roads and for all these things, or sending to ukraine. And then it's just having that conversation about like it's just so weird because they've never even been exposed to that yet.

Speaker 1:

And I don't even think they are at all, but they can do calculus.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Trigonometry.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, for what? The important stuff?

Speaker 3:

It is weird that we live in a society where we are forced to give our money away.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, forced.

Speaker 3:

For the greater good, but it's not.

Speaker 1:

It's supposed to be. I saw a post the other day where the guy is wearing a shirt and a bar that says taxes are gay. I was like wow.

Speaker 3:

It's just gigantic on his back. That's all it says, wow.

Speaker 1:

He means all it says Wow, happy means happy. Sorry, that's what he meant. It's happy that version.

Speaker 2:

People are happy being done.

Speaker 3:

Do you listen to the Protect Our Parks episodes?

Speaker 1:

I am about halfway done right now. They're the best.

Speaker 3:

They're so good. Yeah, unlike us who have to be responsible. I know when you can just actually actually like joke about the things that like dudes used to joke about in the 90s A lot more fun.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they say some crazy things on that.

Speaker 4:

I just don't like it when he starts to pee in that bottle. You know what?

Speaker 3:

Isn't that weird? No, you know what drives me nuts? It's not. Well, it's super fucking weird.

Speaker 2:

It's super fucking weird, you've never peed in a bottle.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, yeah, not in front of it, like, not right here, Like he just pulls out a bottle and pees in it.

Speaker 3:

Honestly, it probably wouldn't bother me if you did that. The burping in the mic drives me bananas, I know yeah.

Speaker 1:

If you don't know what we're talking about, it's Joe Rogan. He's got Protect Our Parks.

Speaker 1:

And it's not, or now, sometimes there's four this has been in the past, there's been more than no, I think so anyway, it doesn't matter regardless, they get hammered and they just say crazy it is hilarious and it's like six hours long, I think shane gillis is probably one of the funniest people ever. He's so fun totally this last one where he's doing uh, conor mcgregor's accent I thought I he was so good yeah, it was like a solid have you seen roadhouse yet? I've heard it. Shit, I kind of liked it. It's not good, but like okay, because it can a movie be like not good, but you still like it yeah, there's a few yeah there's a ton of those.

Speaker 1:

This is like that one isn't. It's not that. It's not that good but there's some really good, like there's some really great parts in it, like there's just like very like the action is pretty good, the fight would you watch it again?

Speaker 3:

yeah, I'll watch it again. Really, would you watch it again in the next six months?

Speaker 1:

yeah, I'll probably watch it again because, uh, my wife didn't watch it when I watched it, so I'll watch it with her, okay is that like uh, if it's six months you rewatch it, then it's good, I think so oh, I for sure we'll watch. I liked it. It was fun. It was a fun movie but it wasn't like. It's not like a good storyline, it's a really stupid storyline, but like it's a fun it's a fun storyline wasn't a surprise.

Speaker 1:

No, not at all, but like it didn't, like they didn't improve that. There's nothing like I don't know what people are expecting. It's not going to be like reinvent the movie, it's true yes but it's. But there's like some fun moments in it. I don't know, conor mcgregor's pretty hilarious in it that's the one with him and jake gyllenhaal.

Speaker 2:

Right yeah, gyllenhaal, gyllenhaal, gyllenhaal, right yeah, gyllenhaal.

Speaker 1:

Gyllenhaal, have you seen the thing where Connor's talking to a reporter and he's so high?

Speaker 2:

He's like on coke or something.

Speaker 1:

He's just like can't stop touching his face and he's like trying to like talk about how the movie was like. On, gentlemen.

Speaker 2:

How long until he, just like, crashes and burns. I don't know.

Speaker 3:

I don't think he's going to.

Speaker 2:

Like he's been at such a high level in every aspect of his life, for so long, so much money, so much money, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

Anyway, I I would say, watch it for sure it's a fun movie to watch.

Speaker 3:

I'll try it.

Speaker 1:

Don't expect it to be a great movie, but it's fun.

Speaker 3:

I'll try it. Yeah, all right. Well, see you later you pulled the ripcord.

Speaker 1:

I didn jason's tired.

Speaker 4:

Sorry, you look very tired, I think you nodded off like 50 minutes, and I just started just to crash yeah, you've been quiet today.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I apologize, I don't know. Did you not cold plunge before you came?

Speaker 4:

I haven't my. My cold plunge is still sitting in my shower like a limp just uh, just rolled over on the side like a limp.

Speaker 3:

What?

Speaker 4:

jason just a limp cold plunge is all it is.

Speaker 3:

It's a limp plunge. Well, tomorrow is a new day well, you know when, the best time to you know plant a tree is yes, yesterday, right now, right now, you go home and plant a tree no, it was, it was, it was a month ago it was the best time to plant the tree, yeah I planted a bunch of trees a month ago easy, or to plant a new tree today.

Speaker 1:

Second best time is today.

Speaker 4:

There's no better time then that's right, that's the same, yeah, the best time to plant a tree was like a year ago.

Speaker 1:

The next best time is today.

Speaker 3:

Yeah Well, tomorrow, because you're not going to plunge today.

Speaker 1:

Or tomorrow because it's already late.

Speaker 2:

You should cold plunge when you get home.

Speaker 3:

I can't. No, do you want to just hop?

Speaker 2:

in, hop in, right now We'll live cast it Tarps off and go.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, let's go. It's ready to go. I have to wake up earlier than I have been for a long time tomorrow, so I need to go to bed.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you do Well. Thank you for coming.

Speaker 2:

Thanks for having me Again. If anyone needs any referral codes, Send one to me.

Speaker 4:

I looked it up. Okay, I will. It's pretty good.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and my wife and I will thank you as we fly places for free. But no, in all seriousness, I'm pretty passionate about this, so if anyone has any questions, when you make your YouTube channel, we'll come back on and we'll pump that up, you really should.

Speaker 4:

Can we use this space to record it? Even just breaking down the cards that you see? There's so many, yeah, so many, there's so much.

Speaker 1:

I think if you did like a five minute videos like, okay, this is why I use this card and I buy groceries with this card, versus like this one, and this one would get you this many points. This one got me this many points. If you did like a five minute, just a breakdown, like a succinct like this, why this card is used for my grocery card, and then you put that up on youtube and then you do another one about something other, okay, let's start planning it okay we're not very good at youtube first bring me the logo yeah, uh, we're not good at youtube were you on?

Speaker 1:

youtube. Uh, we had a couple of videos on youtube.

Speaker 4:

is that is that thousand dollar thing still? Oh yeah, who won that? We both lost. All right, that's fair.

Speaker 1:

Does negative money mean that we won?

Speaker 3:

Fuck my life yeah.

Speaker 2:

Well, I appreciate your confidence in me.

Speaker 3:

I think you do good. You love it.

Speaker 2:

That's half the battle.

Speaker 3:

So you get to do something you love and talk about it, hey hey, hey, if you do something you love hey, you'll never work a day in your life hey, hey, hey.

Speaker 2:

If you do something you love, you'll never work a day in your life and this is benefiting you because you don't have to pay for rooms in vegas in august. It is benefiting me.

Speaker 3:

You just have to gamble with me a little bit gamble with you. You got comp to room in august yeah, four nights hey you can spoon with me I'm fine with it

Speaker 1:

hey we have two queens, if you want to if you want, I'm seriously okay with you spooning with me what if you two spooned in my? Yeah, I'm fine with the other bed. I'm okay with that. I've spooned with jv before, yeah I literally don't care.

Speaker 3:

First of you can't. It's not your room, you didn't get comp the room I know.

Speaker 1:

So you can't just like. Well, that's why I wasn't offering his bed. Well, I just. But I offered his bed with you. Oh well that was.

Speaker 3:

I literally said if you two share a bed, and then my wife and I'll share the other bed did I spoon with you on my bachelor?

Speaker 1:

where were we? Oh yeah, yeah, we did no no, I had a cot. No, you didn't I had a car, I had a cot. You weren't in the same room as us. I was there's two rooms.

Speaker 3:

It's a little fuzzy so it is uh, but no, so you were more than welcome hey.

Speaker 2:

You're more than welcome. You can spoon with either one of us and it won't cost you a dime. Just give me some money to gamble with.

Speaker 3:

Can I spoon with him and you can?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we can switch alternate. I don't care, I really don't, because I think we're not going to be in that room very much. We, we all get along huh, I slept in the cot, all right yeah, I slept in the cot too, because it's really squeaky every time I moved. It was annoying.

Speaker 3:

It was better than sharing a bed I see and I don't care if I'm not a big guy, so I can think I can stay on my side of the bed I'm worried my front's gonna touch your

Speaker 2:

back what is it what is it again? Front to front's okay, back to back's okay, but not front to back but can we not nuts to nuts?

Speaker 1:

can we not just throw a pillow in the middle and you'd be fine yeah you just build a fort.

Speaker 2:

If that's what it's going to take to get you there, by all means yeah.

Speaker 1:

I don't move in my sleep. I stay on my side of the bed. I'm sure they have cots, Actually I could probably frown on that.

Speaker 2:

We can talk more about it but you're welcome to stay in our room.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so thanks for listening to this episode Number 40 with easy Sorry and sorry for the lack of energy on the part. Thanks for coming, Jason.

Speaker 4:

I'm sorry, I Googled a couple of things.

Speaker 1:

All right, bye.

Speaker 3:

Bye.

Speaker 1:

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Maximizing Rewards Points for Travel
Credit Card Benefits and Travel Tips
Airport Security and Credit Card Tips
Airline Travel, Credit Cards, World Issues
Complex Perspectives on War and Taxes
Reddit, Star Wars, Pottery Discussion
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Scuba Diving, Yeti Obsession, NCAA Basketball
Discussing Basketball, Travel, and Fatherhood
Ticket Troubles and Parenting Realizations
Youth, Education, and Responsibility