The Average Superior Podcast
#41: Average Apathy: Airline Travel, Is Atlantis Real?, Aliens, Conspiracy and Nuclear War
Welcome back to Average Superior Podcast. We were extremely happy to host our friends and fellow podcasters, Tanner and Corbyn, from The Radical Apathy Podcast.
Follow them on all the things and listen to their upcoming episode where we join them on their pod.
RADICAL APATHY SPOTIFY:
https://open.spotify.com/show/37PwK0kNcuEMipYOJWcc8C?si=e72fc07bee314eb1
OUTLINE:
Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time.
00:08:00 - Generational Wealth and Financial Values
00:17:00 - Airlines, Travel, and Boarding Disasters
00:26:00 - Atlantis Debate and Belief in Consequences
00:33:00 - Twitter, Aliens, and Conspiracy Theories
00:39:00 - Exploring Conspiracy Theories and Truth
00:46:00 - Uncovering UFOs and Government Secrets
00:51:00 - Nuclear War and Personal Appearance Discussion
01:02:00 - The Radical Apathy Podcast
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Welcome back to Average Superior Podcast. We were extremely happy to host our friends and fellow podcasters, Tanner and Corbyn, from The Radical Apathy Podcast.
Follow them on all the things and listen to their upcoming episode where we join them on their pod.
RADICAL APATHY SPOTIFY:
https://open.spotify.com/show/37PwK0kNcuEMipYOJWcc8C?si=e72fc07bee314eb1
OUTLINE:
Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time.
00:08:00 - Generational Wealth and Financial Values
00:17:00 - Airlines, Travel, and Boarding Disasters
00:26:00 - Atlantis Debate and Belief in Consequences
00:33:00 - Twitter, Aliens, and Conspiracy Theories
00:39:00 - Exploring Conspiracy Theories and Truth
00:46:00 - Uncovering UFOs and Government Secrets
00:51:00 - Nuclear War and Personal Appearance Discussion
01:02:00 - The Radical Apathy Podcast
Email us here: average.superior@gmail.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/averagesuperior/
Connect with us on Twitter here: https://twitter.com/AverageSuperior
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Speaker 2:I want to kiss you all over. Oh, you have such a nice voice.
Speaker 3:The night knows it is you all over. You have such a nice voice.
Speaker 1:The night knows it is you, you did, you did, I'll do it. And then it stopped.
Speaker 2:As Hemingway said, there is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man. True nobility is being superior to your former self.
Speaker 1:Everyone feels the same way. You do, all right, what you do right now. That makes a difference. Universal laws are lacking Context and we're kings. You got that my phone? Yeah, I'm setting it up, don't worry about it, okay. Okay, then we won't worry about that, is that? Uh, what kind of phone is that, sir? This is a samsung flip 4 okay, so it's a flip phone.
Speaker 1:So, like we have, we've been having discussions about like trying to get away from our phones and maybe move into a flip phone, but that seems like a flip phone that's not going to help my issues um well, it depends on what your issues are, I guess like usage oh, you're using it too much yeah, hmm, like phone usage
Speaker 3:it's okay and asks if we're live. Corbin, oh sorry, sorry, we're live what are we doing?
Speaker 1:can we start? Have we started yet?
Speaker 4:are we allowed to swear on this?
Speaker 1:100. Yes, okay you uh like. So the phone usage issue right, everyone's using the phones too much, so then the theory is okay, let's go back to the flip phones, where, literally, we can't do anything on them, but that one looks like a flip phone that has apps and stuff on it it is, it is a full samsung phone.
Speaker 2:Okay, it just allows you to fold it and close it. Okay, I simply do it just because, like you, have small pockets, small hands.
Speaker 4:It's just it's so heavy, Smells like cabbage. It's so heavy on my soft wrists.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, I want a small one. That's that is why, okay, I do a small wrist though, like check it out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, I think your wrist popped.
Speaker 3:I did pop and it grabbed it. Yeah, I have weak bones.
Speaker 1:I'm made of milk. Yeah, go ahead there. What were you going to say, CJ?
Speaker 3:I was just going to say welcome to the. Radically Average Podcast.
Speaker 1:Good job oh wow, the Radically Average.
Speaker 2:Apathy Podcast Superior Apathy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, where we practice superior apathy on the Radically Average Podcast.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, welcome to Tanner and Corbin. Hi guys, what's?
Speaker 4:up.
Speaker 1:We've been trying to do this for a while.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's my bad.
Speaker 3:It's okay. Schedules are always hard. Yeah, you're always in like Vegas or like your kids are getting boring or something. I know I got problems, I love that, uh, we had the schedule and then you forgot your child's birthday was on the day and I and I rebooked on my child's birthday.
Speaker 4:I'm like, wait a minute, I gotta cancel again. Yeah, it's still. It's still my kid's birthday. Yeah, weird, the day continues.
Speaker 3:But the text conversation was quite stupid well, it turns out, there's nothing harder than organizing four dudes, yeah, who also seem to be employed by the same people.
Speaker 1:And have very rare, weird schedules, differing times. It's difficult. Well, you know what it is, what is it?
Speaker 2:It's because we're all professional podcasters and we're all in a crazy amount of demand and we just make so much money doing that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, when we have to take that money doing that yeah.
Speaker 2:When we have to take that money and spend it somewhere else. You know by the time we get it all together, but you know what?
Speaker 1:Speaking of money, I just want to say thank you to our first ever subscriber, Tony. He has pledged an undisclosed amount of money per month to us so that it pays some of our bills.
Speaker 3:Okay, it's like when a lottery winner like you tend not to tell. Like if you tell people, then people start calling. Tanner wins the lottery. I'm going to start calling him and be like hey can I have your money, would you? Though. If you won the lottery? You would not. Yeah, I would. I don't think you would.
Speaker 2:I mean I wouldn't tell people, but there would be signs If I won the 50 million, would any of you? Could you see a situation where you would, and be honest, you would genuinely call up Chris and be like, maybe not rate out after money, but you'd be like, oh hey, my carburetor is not running.
Speaker 4:Yeah, there's this one cunt from high school. I would call yeah, yeah, and I go listen, fucker, this happened, so you owe him, he owes you money. More happened so you owe him, he owes you money, like more. Like he was just his dad owed a business and he just flaunted it all the time even though he didn't do any fucking work. No, so that guy, I would tell.
Speaker 2:Oh that you would tell me, with a lottery. Yeah, that guy's fine enough.
Speaker 3:I was like you're going to call him and ask him for money, I think the question was would you any of us call?
Speaker 4:him and ask for money. Oh, call him and ask for money.
Speaker 2:I thought you were saying if we would tell anybody, no, well, would you call and ask me for money if I win the lottery?
Speaker 4:No.
Speaker 2:No, yeah, see, that's fine, probably not Speaking of things. You guys still do the drink thing right, we do.
Speaker 3:We do drinks.
Speaker 1:Yeah so.
Speaker 2:Corbin and I of Radical Apathy fame, put a lot of thought into this.
Speaker 1:And.
Speaker 3:Thank you. You talk, I'll be right Holding on. We wanted it to be special. I like special, is it?
Speaker 2:I don't even want to speculate. You probably haven't heard of this before. Okay, I'm not sure how to pronounce it, I'm going to have to share it. We got the big ones. It's all in one bottle, oh okay. Yeah, it's calledirnoff Icky.
Speaker 1:I've heard of it.
Speaker 2:It's cold, it seems really good, but that's fair for you guys. That is cold.
Speaker 3:This is how I know you haven't listened to our last few podcasts.
Speaker 1:It's an amazing gesture and I appreciate that. When I first started drinking, uh, which was about 21 years old uh, I'm not joking, uh, I drank a lot of these and it was, uh, you know, because you're 21 and you're at the den and the university of calgary and you, uh, don't like beer because you've never drank before. So you drank smirnoff ice and a lot of it.
Speaker 3:Do you do the thing where you like ice your friends and inconvenient times and places.
Speaker 2:I've never, I'm aware of it. I've never been iced, I think, because that's I'm gonna refer you to what I'm drinking, and I think, which is what I started.
Speaker 3:People would just give it to me yeah, my, uh.
Speaker 2:My sister works for this company. Now, actually, really, that owns Mike's Hard.
Speaker 3:Nice In the capacity that your sister does for things, or you have more than one sister.
Speaker 2:No, it's that sister. She has her side hustle, oh Right. And then she, now she's, that's her front hustle, that's the front Front hustle. Front and rear hustle is the booze industry. It's so blue.
Speaker 4:Yeah, why did you get that?
Speaker 2:It tastes blue.
Speaker 4:The blue freeze. Like the color blue.
Speaker 2:It is Mike's hard. Blue freeze vodka All the options.
Speaker 4:Yeah, what point were you like, yes, I. What was the trigger?
Speaker 2:I knew I was going to drink this for the last three days. I just pretended like I was looking when I was there with you. Oh, okay.
Speaker 1:You didn't want to seem like you were sad. That's worse.
Speaker 2:The lady watching the floor knows me by name and she was reaching for it when I walked in. I kind of waited. I was like no, I'm just holding on, just wait, wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 1:And then she just kind of um, yeah, I, I haven't had a mike's heart or a spin off ice for a very long time. Thank you, hey, you're welcome. Uh, let's go back to this watery thing for a second, though. So who would you ask money? So if somebody in your is like direct family members, is there anyone that could win the money where you're like you want to throw me a meal? No, I don't. I don't think I could either, like asking is a pretty 100 shitty thing to do.
Speaker 2:It would depend on the person right. I'm not in a situation where I need to go for money.
Speaker 4:I'm not there, yeah, we get it, you're rich Again, we're podcasters.
Speaker 2:We have an insane amount of money. Yeah, yeah, If anyone wants to get into podcasting. You make so much money doing this.
Speaker 3:And right away it's disgusting. Right away you make so much money.
Speaker 2:Episode one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you feel kind of bad about it.
Speaker 2:No, I mean, I grew up not getting much from close relatives, yeah, and so I think out of spite no, I wouldn't.
Speaker 1:And I agree with you. Even if it was my sister, my parents, I don't think. Even if it was like my sister, my parents, I don't think I'd be like, hey, can you give me money. But you have to admit that if it was like A direct, like your parent, you would expect hey, you're probably Going to chuck me a meal. Do you know what I mean, do you not think?
Speaker 1:so yeah, okay, like there would be An expectation in your head. You would never say it out loud, choked, if it didn't happen after they won 55 million dollars yeah so corbett is the only person here with children.
Speaker 2:Would you give money if you won a lottery to your kids?
Speaker 4:fuck, yeah, yeah yeah, because, like, there's no worse feeling than worrying that your kids are gonna suck when they grow up and don't.
Speaker 3:Kids with money suck, yeah, and nothing makes kids better.
Speaker 4:Like like you, just you're. I'm so scared that my kids are going to be unsuccessful with whatever they do. Right that I? I just don't want them to grow up wanting for anything. Yeah, I would totally throw them some for sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I would, I would too, but I gotta get a certain obviously. Uh, I can't remember how old your kids are, but like a certain age it's like you're gonna want that. Do that responsibly, and then hopefully you've taught them about money and all that kind of stuff but, yeah, I think, yeah, I agree, it's got to be just shitty thing. You're like, hey, can you give me some money?
Speaker 3:so here's my question. So you, you said if you won 55 million dollars, you would I don't want to say expect, that's not the word you used, but you would like a million dollars would be the amount, the portion of that I don't know if there's an amount that I would say that I would expect.
Speaker 1:So if it's again, it's like my sister or my parents and they won $55 million. Yeah, 100% I would be. I would never say it to their faces, but for sure there'd be like a bit of me thinking, yeah, they're going to toss me a little money and if they don't, it would suck, honestly, would suck. I, I can be honestly, I think it would suck, you'd be like okay, like okay.
Speaker 3:I guess I'm not getting anything. I don't know how much would they have to. So what if they give you like ten thousand?
Speaker 4:yeah, like what amount would you?
Speaker 1:that's a good point, that's a good point, I don't know right, I don't know. Here's a check for 2300, yeah that's a good point I like. Personally, I think if I won 55 million bucks tonight a lot of max my immediate family members I would give a minimum of a million bucks. $55 million Immediate family member my wife, so that's $6 million given away. You still have $49 million. So that's still not enough. I would have to do more.
Speaker 3:And then you have your close friends. Yeah, you got to think, though.
Speaker 4:This is generational wealth. You're not your close friend. Yeah, you got to think, though. You got to think though, like this is generational wealth.
Speaker 3:Like you're not just doing it.
Speaker 4:Like you, can't give away too much to get started Cause you got to. It's your kids, your kids, kids, Like you want that to be generational wealth.
Speaker 1:Well, what's the number? What's the number?
Speaker 4:that you would have and my kids yeah, you and your kids 20 million yes, that's 20 that's only well, no, I'm just thinking, because that's counting giving away to my family members and that like I'm counting all that stuff in there so I'm going to counter this giving money away thing.
Speaker 2:Um, I wouldn't give anything to anybody. You money wise. Let me finish, okay, I wouldn't give money. I should say I would give memories.
Speaker 1:So you would buy memories.
Speaker 2:I would pay for memories. So I've always said this if I won a good amount of money I think for $2 million I would quit the podcasting business, oh wow. But if I won a decent amount of money, what I would do is for my family and close friends. Every year I would say, Kate, when's your week, or two week of holidays, and they would tell me that. And I say, Kate, great, Tell me a place in the world you want to go. And then I book it and pay for it.
Speaker 4:I'd pay off every mortgage for sure of everyone that's close to me. Oh, you buy their mortgages.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'd mortgage for sure of everyone that I you know that's close to yeah, oh, you buy their mortgages.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I buy them out like I pay them off or whatever. They gotta learn how to save money. I'm out. I think that's just the biggest thing if you could do something like that give financial relief to somebody it's just like stress relief gone, or you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that'd be interesting, right, because like I like that. So I read this book called Die With Zero, and the idea is-.
Speaker 2:My wife loves that. She saw all in that book too.
Speaker 1:It's an amazing book but it's interesting because I mean, his idea is we are only the sum of our experiences. Like, at the end of your life you don't really care about the things that you bought, necessarily, but you like to think about what did we do? Oh, remember that time we did that thing. Remember when we hung out with this, remember I went to the dominican for a wedding, like things like that that you'll always kind of have, that you can remember and that is really, in the end, what matters on your deathbed, like you're thinking about those things.
Speaker 1:Um, and so this idea of like saving obviously you have to be responsible and save money for retirement, all that kind of thing, but how much? And like some people, usually people go and they, they hoard everything just so that they can survive after they retire, but they don't live at all during their life. And all those years where you were fit and able and you make, you could walk around, you could go, do things like you, you go and you you never do that until it's too late. And now it's like you're 70 and you only go on old people cruises, because it's easier to do.
Speaker 4:I'm hyper aware of that, and so I am probably a little more reckless with my money than most people. Like I still got the savings for retirement, like I'm still on track for everything, but if I want to do something, if I want to buy something, fuck it, I'm getting it, I don't care Because.
Speaker 1:I don't want to die with my money. I don't, and I struggle with the balance of that. I think my wife's an accountant, so she's very much about prepared and save money and that kind of stuff, which is awesome, because I would have nothing, probably, without her, so that's good. But, that being said, I also think that we're not good with that balance. And you who? That's awesome. We also have other friends that just they want something, go, but they go buy it, whereas I'll look at it in my Amazon cart for like four months and I can afford it, but it's just like well, should I like? I'm looking at your watch and I'm just jealous. I want, I keep wanting to go buy an Apple ultra watch, and I haven't done it, and there's no real reason. She's like stupid. But in in other than things though, like the going into vegas, that's what you love doing it, so why wouldn't you do that way while you can?
Speaker 2:yeah, um, before I'm too old to enjoy it.
Speaker 1:100 and I think I suck at that. I think I need to be better. Are you all blue bubble people? Blue level yeah oh yeah, 100 phone iphone oh yeah, I hate text I enjoy your companionship.
Speaker 2:I hate, yeah, green well, iphone's coming out with RCS yeah iPhone's going to join it the rest of the world because they realize they sucked.
Speaker 4:Rich content, something or other. Anyway, it makes you be able to text the Green Bubble Friends.
Speaker 2:It makes me yeah, green Bubble Friends. Does that turn them?
Speaker 4:blue, you'll get all the no it won't turn them blue but it'll give them all the functionality
Speaker 2:that we want.
Speaker 4:You can actually send a photo to somebody from Android and it's not going to look like crap.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's good. Does it say delivered?
Speaker 4:Yes, it'll say delivered. You'll be able to see, read receipts.
Speaker 3:You'll be able to see when they're writing. You'll be able to see all that stuff, but you think they could just turn it blue for me.
Speaker 1:Just make me pretend it's an iPhone Fucking green, and that's an ugly green too.
Speaker 2:It's the worst shade of green, like they really want us to hate you, that's because Daddy Apple wants you to believe that.
Speaker 4:Daddy Apple.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're just big Daddy Apple, that's all you guys listen to. Segway on Vegas JB. I want to ask you a question.
Speaker 3:I want to hear the answer.
Speaker 2:And I'm going to do this as little Up front as possible To make it a clean answer On one of our episodes. I don't think it was the last one. I'm going to do this as little up front as possible to make it a clean answer. Okay, that's good On one of our episodes.
Speaker 2:I don't think it was the last one but a couple before that, we had told a couple stories from our times in Vegas. Yes, jb, you and I have gone to Vegas. Before we have, mr CJ, a story of you and I at a poker tournament. In Vegas.
Speaker 1:Do you know why I can recite that? Why? Because I listened to your podcast.
Speaker 4:Oh shit, damn it, okay, damn it All, right All right.
Speaker 2:Okay, so if you've heard that my story of Vince, are they accurate or am I off the reservation?
Speaker 1:No, I can definitely say that it was not as clear to me my memory as it was to yours because, like, I definitely couldn't have told you that, off the top of my head uh I do remember playing in the poker tournament with you. I remember that asian dude uh, demolish me just hilarious and I remember that, that prick, that was kind of like just being a tool yeah, yeah, that's peter poker, yeah, exactly uh.
Speaker 1:So I remember all those things and when you said it I'm like, oh, yeah, I do remember that, but I would never have like come up the top of my head off of that. Okay, yeah, that's okay that was uh, the biggest trip I was at yeah, it was at the, the bachelor party, he and then we went to a pie table I immediately forgot how to play pie gal, because you never knew no, I did, but not well enough, clearly, to get.
Speaker 4:I got intimidated by this pie gal is such a great gambling I know nothing to get drunk at because because you, you, you push 50 of the time, 60 of the time, it's fantastic to get drinks up I literally couldn't tell you when you sit down on a table with eight other people who have immediately just immigrated from china. Yeah, you get a little intimidated. They usually play the domino game, don't they do? Yeah?
Speaker 3:I don't know, I said it I said it, the dominoes yeah, there's some domino games.
Speaker 2:I don't think it's really like it's a racial slur to say dominoes.
Speaker 4:Sorry about the they, you know, I think I think supposed to say they now. What do? Sorry about the they? You know what I mean. I think it's supposed to say they now too. What do you mean by they what?
Speaker 3:do you mean by those people?
Speaker 2:Pai Gow was a great game I went to Wendover.
Speaker 3:Have you ever been to Wendover? I have not. No, so Wendover is like a town in Nevada with three casinos and a gas station. Okay, I from Canada, specifically for the purposes of gambling there. Oh, I did that, yeah. So I went to win over once and played by go for three days straight and then flew back to.
Speaker 4:Canada Do you side note on that story? Do you first off? I really appreciate that. Second, all like. Do you like Allegiant air?
Speaker 3:I mostly spend my time wondering how close I am to death.
Speaker 4:It is the worst airline ever.
Speaker 3:I'm not actually sure they do maintenance.
Speaker 4:I totally haven't. I haven't flown in 10 years. My May trip I booked with them.
Speaker 2:Uh-oh.
Speaker 3:They still fly.
Speaker 4:They still fly. They own the football stadium, so they pretend like they're the big deal, yeah, but I did Flair Airlines this last time and they got new planes. Aren't they gone now?
Speaker 1:Lynx is gone.
Speaker 3:Lynx is gone. Links is gone.
Speaker 4:No flare, they got new planes, though they're like two years old yeah but the new planes don't have the, the uh wings no, the stowaway room, yeah, like it's not as big. So when you go, like if, like, if you go to one airline and your carry-on bag fits there, half of them won't fit flair's carry-on bag and they make you check it, it's a it's a pain in the ass.
Speaker 1:Yeah uh, I am not a big flyer, I don't love it, so planes always kind of freak me out, yeah, hold on, yeah, okay, flying or planes freak you out. Being on a plane flying, okay, I just I don't know the control of it. I'm like I know this is kind of, I know it's safe, they don't go down a ton, but I'm always like they don't go down a ton.
Speaker 1:I know they don't go down often Okay, often, but there's something about it. But then I've been watching Masters of Air. Have you watched that show yet on Apple TV? No, no, it's a really good show, but it's World War II pilots and they're flying these bombers and these guys are getting hit and they're just still flying the thing. They got four engines to go out. They got one goes. They're flying one engine and they're still landing and figuring it out. Yeah, I'm like, well, if that's happening, like even if a door blows off, like the Boeings, then you know it should be okay right, yeah, they still fly.
Speaker 2:If they have wings and air moves, they still fly. Oh, the pilot is like oh, I'm taking myself out with nobody with me, exactly, fucking rammed it into a map.
Speaker 1:Mental health check on the pilot. That's what you got to worry about.
Speaker 4:Yeah, Where's the safest seat, do you think on the plane. So funny story.
Speaker 2:No funny story. So a university bought a retired like a 737 plane and crashed it intentionally to see where the safest seat would be on it, and it was basically the cockpit. All of the first. First, what are the rich?
Speaker 3:people say what's it called? Now? It's not first class anymore. What is it?
Speaker 2:Priority.
Speaker 3:I don't know Whatever.
Speaker 2:They just smash this into the desert in Nevada. You can watch the video and the plane comes in and basically right where the seam is of first class, and then the pilot just gets ripped off and just smashed into a box and I'm bringing it to my hand and demolished and the rest of the plane just kind of skids to a halt.
Speaker 1:Okay, sorry, I'm sorry. So the front smashes and the back is fine.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so the cockpit, and first class like rips off from the plane and just becomes nothing kind of yeah, so the safest?
Speaker 1:is in the back?
Speaker 3:okay, totally. But so just to go back to a legionnaire yeah when I went to wendover I booked the trip through legionnaire. We got to the airport in calgary and they had like subcontracted a different airline with a 737. So I was like, oh, that's good, I'm gonna make it to wendover and I'll die on the trip home. I got on this old, like flown by legionnaire, super hungover, and the entire trip back to calgary it was just dripping on me it was just dripping I was like I'm I'm gonna die, I'm gonna die flying makes me nervous.
Speaker 1:Yeah, me too.
Speaker 3:I don't know why I don't know, I don't know why do you yeah it's nice getting places really quickly.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah well, like, so, like the dominican trip we did uh I hated it like I mean the dominican being there was great, but that flight was terrible, the fact that wasn't direct and we had to go through toronto oh yeah oh my god, that took forever.
Speaker 4:How in the fuck, in the year 2024, are we still boarding the plane front to back, like what the sense does that?
Speaker 2:make, I know. And here's where it's morphed. Now it's become its own problem, because now the airline companies make you pay for extra baggage and shit, yeah. And so now it's become this weird thing where everyone is just doing carry-on baggage and no one is checking baggage, that's true. And now it's this mad rush to get your shit in the plane, because now you've got to check it at the door. If you don't, let me stand on your shoulders on this for a second.
Speaker 4:Why don't you get up on here? Let me lift you up, because you board first, you're in row three and then everybody's got their ass in your face for like 10 minutes, because they can't figure out their fucking baggage and almost none of them smell good.
Speaker 2:I hate asses in my face, Hate it.
Speaker 1:I mean I'm not going to make a blanket statement here, but sometimes in situations generally, it's going to not be good Always, always, all of them. Why can't we?
Speaker 3:board the plane from the middle out, what? Or like two doors in, like, when you crash.
Speaker 4:There needs to be a second door that you can just go in and get those back people taken care of the back people.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you literally should go the opposite way. You get the back back, row forward.
Speaker 3:But to be fair, I've never even thought of that until you brought it up, and it makes no fucking sense. It makes no sense.
Speaker 1:I also hate when people it's like, okay, we're going to start boarding and then everyone stands up and gets in line.
Speaker 2:It's like they do it that way is it to shame everybody?
Speaker 3:that's not in first class.
Speaker 2:No so I mean first class people. Yes, they go in there because they they're first class people, but there's a reason. In the cattle car they they board the front over the rear and there's I mean, there's been airlines forever and a bunch of smart people in rooms have sat and had this conversation. Okay can you tell us? Oh, I don't know why.
Speaker 1:Oh okay, I just think you're assuming that they know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, there's a reason.
Speaker 1:Ah well, okay you know, hold on, I'll find it yeah we didn't bring kicking Jamie off. He's fine. He was tired and sick and wanted to go home.
Speaker 3:We don't have enough technology to have five mics, we can only afford four mics, too many mics, maybe if we get more subscriptions.
Speaker 1:Check out our Instagram page.
Speaker 4:I'm way slower at this than you.
Speaker 3:While he's doing that, do you guys have an Instagram page yet I?
Speaker 4:don't remember, do I? I think?
Speaker 3:you do.
Speaker 4:I'm bad at it do I, I think you do I'm bad at it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I said I keep up with it and I'm very bad at it yeah, I gotta get better and you gotta get on me on that, hey corman.
Speaker 1:Yeah, could you fucking get, I'll get thanks, I know you have a uh we got an x for sure.
Speaker 4:I checked out today. We got a uh facebook uh-huh, which is unbearable to use. I hate it. I don't want to use it at all it's terrible and uh, no, I I, I guess we have an instagram because because you have a facebook one.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think they're linked.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so I gotta figure that out. Do you have a tiktoks I? I, just as a human being, I refuse to go into. Thank you, I appreciate that we do too, would you?
Speaker 3:like to join our podcast in replacement of jason. Yeah, I mean he's all about the tiktok he quit tiktok for a month, and then, as soon as his month was up, he's like oh, I'm gonna download it again sports free agency period.
Speaker 4:I get the fucking scrolling thumb injury with on on on twitter.
Speaker 1:I, I swear to god I had to take like I put a brace on it I had to take like a week break there's so much, so much scrolling so is your twitter just complete sports central uh, well, I'd say 80 of its sports, yeah it's so funny how you get like pegged into a hole, like into a hole on twitter or x we're dead naming it uh when we were giant morons and we're super involved in cryptocurrencies okay, uh twitter like literally, I could not open twitter without getting that's all I saw was cryptocurrency crap from everybody and I'm still trying.
Speaker 1:The remnants of it are still on my Twitter that I keep deleting people and deleting things and they won't go away. I still get Twitter or cryptocurrency posts here and there. I'm trying to stop, but now it's mostly like conspiracy theory stuff so it's called the Wilma method, wilma.
Speaker 2:W-I-L-M-a it's an actual scientific method for the wilma boarding test and the wilma block and wilma straight test methods are used for dealing with clusters of people and boarding back to front takes longer than boarding front to back why you got to bring facts to and to a and. Mythbusters did an episode on it and confirmed that or proved that loading back to front takes longer.
Speaker 1:Okay, so speed In my head it doesn't work. So what is it about? That would make it faster.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I didn't read the whole thing but that's the reason why, if you think about it just, yeah, but then you say things like Atlantis is real, so I have a hard time following your logic.
Speaker 1:First of all, I said I think Atlantis could have been real.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I could poop out gold. No, you couldn't Sure, I could.
Speaker 4:Well, I guess, if you swallowed some. Just as much as.
Speaker 1:Atlantis could be real. Okay, what about it is unbelievable that Atlantis could be real? Tell me. You don't think there could have been a potential civilization or colony that was wiped out by the ocean.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to open my notes. Here's the fundamental issue with these arguments, john, is You've asked me to prove to you why something that is not real should not be real.
Speaker 1:No, I'm not. I'm asking you to say, like I'm not saying it was. I'm not saying I'm not on the other side of the fence here. I'm on the fence, but I'm saying that it's like it's highly likely, given that after the last ice age the oceans raised by a hundred meters, that there was a civilization that was probably wiped out by that.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:And it very well could have been. So I'm saying if that happened and if that's true that the ocean raised that much, then it's reasonable to assume that Atlantis could have been.
Speaker 4:Is it reasonable to assume that if any city was uncovered from water going down, that people would just call it Atlantis? Do you know what I uh, like, like, do you know?
Speaker 1:I mean, like, how do you know that that's the one and again, I don't know enough about this to to argue with you, but I I think I would. I would agree that, like they would have they, whoever's studying this crap, has an idea of an area it was supposed to have been in, in a certain area so where they define like a civilization that disappeared, or like they found like under the ocean. They do some diving and they find, oh look, there's cool stuff down here. They're like, oh, maybe this was Atlantis. How did they prove that? I don't think.
Speaker 2:I don't know if they ever could, right, I don't think they has anything written on like the welcome to Atlantis city gate or anything but right, always kind of stand to the point where the more radical the statement, the more radical the proof needs to be to back it up. So if someone's going to say Atlantis existed, you better have a lot of T's and I's crossed and dotted to show that that was a real thing. Or to say that aliens put bum probes up places. Or crush.
Speaker 1:I like to confirm or deny that's classified. We'll have to go to the back room and have a conversation about that.
Speaker 2:I do have documents that prove this but I can't Compelling witness. He was a compelling witness he was Sure, but he didn't prove anything.
Speaker 4:No, he said nothing.
Speaker 1:He was just in there talking Right, and that's my point with this, though, I'm not saying there was or there wasn't. I'm saying, given what we know about how the ocean rose after the Ice Age, like 6,000 years ago, when the ice cap melted, there was data to show it raised a ton, like an insane amount, and so the water raised that much it's very likely that coastal cities if there were coastal cities at the time were gone. So it's like, okay, one of those maybe I don't know it could have been Atlantis. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying there wasn't Atlantis and they were a civilization that had some cool stuff and they were flying cars and nothing like that.
Speaker 2:You know I disagreed with you before, but at least you had my respect. And now I feel like you just walked back on your ideals and now you've lost my respect.
Speaker 1:I never didn't change what I said. I change what I said. I've said the same thing the whole time. Uh, I just think it's interesting, I, I find it interesting that people I don't know, I mean human history is interesting, isn't it like the we just there's so much stuff that we just don't know because we were, did not have the ability to record things way back in the day. So even even this idea like have you watched that? What's that called Ancient Apocalypse? What? Why are you laughing?
Speaker 2:Sorry, nothing, I'm not for the record, I'm not looking at notes, I'm just sitting here.
Speaker 1:Have you watched?
Speaker 2:that show no, but.
Speaker 1:I've heard of it. What is this? I'm like missing a joke here.
Speaker 2:There may have been a very brief discussion before you arrived today. Very brief, are you going?
Speaker 1:to get me riled up about this. No, okay, my point is interesting because it is very likely that there's stuff that we just have no ability to pull up or understand, like whether civilizations there were 12,000 years ago, then they got wiped out. Then they kind of redeveloped and then they got wiped out Like I don't know, and there's probably something before that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but a lack of evidence is not evidence that something existed.
Speaker 4:I'm going to say something very controversial. Here we go.
Speaker 2:I like it.
Speaker 1:And.
Speaker 4:I don't know. You two fellas to know if I'm about to insult you oh well, we'll see.
Speaker 2:This is usually where it happens. If anyone's going to.
Speaker 1:If anyone religion, yeah, okay, there's less evidence that any religion is real and more people believe it than atlantis. Yeah, can I read you a quote that I wrote down the other day? Oh, yeah, please, you quoted yourself, no no I I heard it in 2024?
Speaker 1:no, I heard it in um. No, I can't remember I heard it. A book I was listening to, maybe, uh, but it says so if men define situations as real, they are real in the consequences. So this is that comes down to this belief about even like religion, sure, I think right. So if someone defines like they believe, they believe this thing is real, yeah, uh, whether it is, we can talk about aliens, we can. What it doesn't really matter what it is, can we talk about aliens, sure, in a minute, but it doesn't matter what the thing is, because it doesn't even, it doesn't even have to be real.
Speaker 4:From religion to aliens I love it, but it's really like it's in the same vein.
Speaker 1:That's, that's the third thing. Like, in the end, the consequences of the how I believe that are real in the world. So, for example, religious like people who are religious about one, one religion or the other yeah whether it's true or it's not true. How they act out in the world has direct consequences, so it kind of makes it real in a sense yeah because it, like literally, makes an impact on the world.
Speaker 4:Listen atlantis is real to him. All right, and that's what I know it is, and that's what matters.
Speaker 2:You guys, this is the perfect opening wake up in atlantis oh, I like that you're gonna live there for four years and then come back. Okay, it was just a bad selfie.
Speaker 3:Eight years I had a family.
Speaker 2:CJ, what's your take on the Mexico aliens, the little tiny guys? You?
Speaker 3:haven't seen those. I'm going to bring us back to aliens in a second. So my Twitter is basically the only place I get news from these days.
Speaker 2:Can we just call it X? Yeah, stop it, it's X now. I guess back to aliens in a second, but my Twitter so my.
Speaker 4:Twitter is basically the only place I get news from these days.
Speaker 2:Guys, can we just call it X, Like come on.
Speaker 4:can we wrap a little bit? Yeah, stop it. It's X now, Like it's Twitter's called X now. What the hell? When did this happen?
Speaker 3:My, my, my. Twitter thinks I'm a liberal. What it's? Because you are. I listened to 40 episodes. Explain that so for some reason. So I kind of went through a dark phase about a month ago, spent a couple weeks commenting on some twitter posts people and now, thanks, I'm one of these people but weren't you bashing those people? Yeah, exactly but so now that now twitter, all it shows me is those people because it wants you to.
Speaker 1:it wants you to interact, it wants me to get angry. Yeah, exactly so.
Speaker 3:I stopped.
Speaker 1:Okay, like you stopped looking at it or you stopped interacting.
Speaker 4:Well, we got some pouring of the spirit of ice.
Speaker 2:The spirit of issy. I can't wait to see just all the memories rush back to you, would you like some more? Issy on your issy. So I say I say what I'm getting at is that.
Speaker 3:I don't know what you're talking about, aliens, because I've been.
Speaker 2:But this was like You've been screaming at people who think trans women are women. This was back in the grush days Mexico.
Speaker 1:It might have been.
Speaker 2:Ecuador or somewhere else actually Some kind of Spanish they found.
Speaker 1:Small people, little alien babies. They're parading them like in Congress.
Speaker 2:Say look Little alien babies. They're parading them like in Congress saying look at our alien babies.
Speaker 1:You haven't seen that. I haven't seen any of that. They look so stupid. It's like someone took like clay and just like kind of like nah, here they are, it's so bad.
Speaker 4:I did to my Twitter for news what you did for cryptocurrency.
Speaker 3:I've completely shut off news, so I don't get into that.
Speaker 4:Ever right what you're talking about because I'm just like fuck it, I'm done. I hate every side. I think everyone's a moron yeah, I can't do it anymore yeah and so I'm like, that's it. Sports is my life. I'm done. No more politics, no more news I'm out.
Speaker 2:So since grush, another guy had come out and he was on since what, since?
Speaker 4:what was the word you? Just used is his last name. He was and he was on.
Speaker 1:Since what? What was the word you just used? Grush? It was his last name.
Speaker 2:He was the guy that went to Congress and said aliens are real.
Speaker 1:Okay, I heard about this guy. Ufa collection. I have all this information UAPs, uaps.
Speaker 2:So another guy came out. He's a special forces and he was. It's a country and I think during the war in the military and his platoon was doing their thing and they happened to come across a crash site and they were read in, as it's called, and from that point on he was basically one of these military people that went to these crash sites.
Speaker 3:One of us, yeah.
Speaker 2:To get read in after a few years. So he came out and he, he put out a bunch of stuff. Now that he's retired and doesn't give a shit, he gets killed anything, uh. So a lot of what he says kind of corroborates what grush did uh. But he gives a lot more detail about uh finding body things and again he I mean he's kind of said like rush he's, they don't think they're real. They were small Martians. No, they're regular size, they're grayish. It's the gray aliens.
Speaker 3:You don't think they're real.
Speaker 2:Because they think they're manufactured, they think they're like probes, and so they have a people-shaped probe Like a biological pilot, but it's not an actual conscious being. It's a biological pilot, but it's it's not an actual conscious being, it's a. It's a biological pilot that controls it because there's no intake, there's no, they have no uh uh digestive tract, like there's nothing to feed or eat them. And he specifically spoke to one where they went in and there was three of them and they were alive, like they were conscious, and they would just sit and it was very dark inside and they were just, they sat in their chairs and didn't do anything and they would, as a flashlight would come in there because we couldn't see, like if you shine a flash on their face they would just kind of put their eyes away from, but they wouldn't do anything, they wouldn't interact with you, they wouldn't talk.
Speaker 2:So finally, their scientists people go in and were kind of touched them a little bit and they would take them by the hand and they literally walked them out of the spaceship like kindergartners, like in their hand, and they followed them, like they went with them, but they made no contact, eat or consume anything and there was nothing to so going into it. There's no digestion, there's nothing that, as what we understand, life needs to exist. They didn't have, so they're working under the assumption that they're just. They're like made probe people.
Speaker 2:First contact probes. They're not actual aliens. They're just what the aliens have put in to control these probes that can come here and do it. It's kind of what they're working under the assumption.
Speaker 1:CJ. How do you not know this? You are so obsessed with aliens. I thought this.
Speaker 2:I was really excited to talk about this.
Speaker 3:Listen, I made a conceited effort to disconnect from this Conceited. It does sound conceited, I don't know.
Speaker 4:It could be conceited. It could be, it's pretty conceited.
Speaker 3:Listen, I hate that you told me this, because I want nothing more than this all to be true. I want it so badly. Yeah, I know I know you do? I don't know I don't know, it sounds like I don't know. I know you do. I don't know, I don't know no-transcript.
Speaker 4:Cobra Commander. What is his name?
Speaker 1:I don't know he was on the Sean Ryan podcast and he was talking about-. The broadcast energy transmitter. He's talking about these direct energy weapons that they have and it's like is this guy crazy or does it cause he sounds? But he, he sounds like he knows what he's talking about a lot of times. Right, he's talking about neutrons and all these things and neutrons.
Speaker 1:Yeah, neutrinos, but then. But then I had to remind Tony was showing me this video and then I had to remind him. Yeah, remind uh, tony was showing me this video and then I had to remind him. Yeah, but when you listen to the flat earth people for a while they kind of sounded smart yeah, anyone can sound smart on a podcast.
Speaker 1:Case in point but like they sound like they throw some science words out. They're like, yeah, but the thing goes here and the rays and the, and you're like, oh, that's, does that make sense? I don't know, does that make?
Speaker 2:sense. Well, they finally tied back the havana attacks. To russian special forces, to russian GRU? No way yeah.
Speaker 3:Making people nauseous.
Speaker 2:Yeah, was it with sound waves that came out last week? They didn't get into what it was, but they were able to tie back to a specific GRU unit for the Havana attacks, and there was ones in Germany too.
Speaker 1:So how come all these attacks happen and people get yelled at and they maybe start wars? How come nobody's talking about the Nord Stream pipeline? Like America obviously blew that up, agreed, like there's no other option. Like America was like we're going to screw up Russia and they went and blew up that pipeline. So like literally like one of the biggest climate disasters you could probably say has happened in a long time and also wrecked the energy for a lot of the world. So you're like nobody's like okay, probably say has happened in a long time and also wreck the energy for a lot of the world. So you're like nobody's like okay, whatever it happened. Did the american dollar go up after that? I don't remember.
Speaker 2:Yeah, where'd the money go? That's usually the quickest way to find out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if the american dollar went up after that, then probably yeah it's just so crazy to me that, like certain things like that can happen and then everyone's like but listen, if just going to put my tinfoil, hat on. We should have made them. We should have. I had them, I threw them out, you threw them out. We had some.
Speaker 3:It was like I had to fucking tinfoil hat sitting in the corner of my room.
Speaker 1:Like it was a little weird. Oh, it was perfect for this.
Speaker 3:Um 2.3 trillion dollars. Some planes just crashed into a building Called the World Trade Centers.
Speaker 1:Like I know, I know, it's like you start throwing things in and you're like, okay, coincidence.
Speaker 4:I'm starting to believe in Atlantis more. Yeah, let's go back to Atlantis.
Speaker 2:So like where, where? Where do you think it would go?
Speaker 3:Where do you?
Speaker 4:think it would go. Let's talk about that.
Speaker 3:This is the problem with conspiracy theories, though, is because they start to become compelling. I don't know if you let them become compelling or you just start to listen to enough of them. You're like, holy fuck. Some of them start to become true, and then you're like, well, if these ones are true, what about the other ones?
Speaker 2:I'm going to lean a little bit into what we like to call radical apathy. We people latch onto these ideals because it makes their world make a little bit more sense, regardless of what the idea whether it's Atlantis or flatter or 9-11, whatever you think it is, if it, if it, if it's a big bad or if it's some someone controlling it just it makes it a little safer because someone's controlling it. But the universe is random and stupid and none of it fucking matters and it just happens to happens and it makes people feel like they have a little bit more control, if they can say you have a dog and a cat in the same house.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:It's crazy, man, I get what you're saying, I get what you're saying.
Speaker 1:But I also disagree to something. I think that in the end does it matter? We're never going to solve this. We'll never find out enough information to know most of these things right.
Speaker 4:We still don't know who killed JFK I was just going to say that the CIA His driver.
Speaker 1:The CIA obviously.
Speaker 4:It's a magic bullet.
Speaker 1:It's definitely the CIA. They killed him Back into the left. But, like you said, the problem is some of these things that people are saying have been proven to be no. That's actually how it happened. And it's true, the government, or whoever, the CIA they did this thing. They probably shouldn't have, but they did. And so then you're like, okay, well, if they're willing to do that. Or, like you said, where it followed the money. So it's like Jeffrey Epstein Did he kill himself? Yeah, probably not. And so you start thinking like, but it's true, you start thinking these things and you're like, okay, well then what is true? Because, in the end, truth matters, if you're trying to and I find this interesting they talk to kids, right, so they come home and they're.
Speaker 4:Truth doesn't matter, though. That's the problem. Truth is subjective. History is written by the winners.
Speaker 3:Completely.
Speaker 1:Truth does not matter matter I think it does. I think that you decide facts, especially in 2024 facts mean nothing anymore because everyone believes what they want. That's the problem and that becomes their fact. But that is exactly. The problem is because there's no ability to actually figure out what is the truth. Everyone's like oh it's my truth, it's my truth.
Speaker 4:Well, there is, I'm gonna punch the neck, not you but the next person that I'm tougher than I'm gonna punch in the face and when she gets hit you know, it's my truth, fuck off completely, and so so you agree with me that there's, yeah, there is a truth.
Speaker 1:Just whatever we're talking about, it doesn't matter the subject. And so, like sort of the kids they come home from school and they're uh, like they, they want things to be black and white and it's just, that's not how the world works. So they come in and talk about the Ukraine is like Russia thing and they're like, oh well, we need to support Ukraine. I was like, well, and then I'm just honest with my kids. I'm like well, it's not that simple. Like this isn't a black and white thing. Like there are reasons, perspectives from the Russian side and perspectives from the Ukrainian side and there and there's a lot of motives going into that, and so it's not very clear that you can just say, well, we need to support this side versus this side.
Speaker 2:This podcast is brought to you by Kremlin Hair Cream. If you are looking for a hair cream, this is Kremlin Hair Cream.
Speaker 1:I don't know. It just drives me crazy because I really I think, especially with kids, I want to raise critical thinkers. I'm trying to be serious.
Speaker 4:I just want to get this out. I'm sorry, it's okay the kremlin whatever, I just want my kids to be critical that hair cream is good so good, maybe the tears of babushkas I'm not.
Speaker 3:I don't you know what I'm saying it just gets frustrating. You want to.
Speaker 1:I want to. I want to be able to. I don't know. Do you remember Knowing?
Speaker 4:any of this when we were in school? No, Kids are so fucks nowadays that they gotta know this shit and they get constant, berated Like I didn't know any of this.
Speaker 1:Well, and they're not Even just constantly berated, but they're like. They're like expected To take a stand on the right side of something and it's like, yeah, tell me who the right side is, how old your kids, uh?
Speaker 4:14 and 10 um. Do you find the schools are teaching them like, like? Nothing useful well like I mean there's, I guess there's the conservative liberal or there's straight down the middle. Like are they? Is your schools teaching them like one way or the?
Speaker 1:other I think was a word, a small town, and I think that they're more I I would say that the, the, the families in in our area tend to be a bit more conservative. Uh, so I feel like the school is actually fairly central. At least I haven't been getting any like, very like left vibes or anything from what they're being taught. Yeah, other than you know the odd thing, um, you know the pronoun stuff and all that kind of stuff with the kids, sure, but again, that's just how we have to have to have a conversation with that I feel my kid knows more about the pronouns stuff than he does actual social studies.
Speaker 1:Exactly 100%.
Speaker 4:True stories.
Speaker 3:I agree.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, like the trans flag, they got flags.
Speaker 4:They all have flags. What's the homo sapien flag? I don't think we have one. We don't have one. No, I don't think so that's bullshit.
Speaker 2:I want a flag. If the aliens do come, what flag are we going to fly?
Speaker 3:The Homo sapien flag.
Speaker 2:America.
Speaker 3:But to be fair and I've said this on this podcast before the best thing that could happen to the human race right now is a fucking alien invasion.
Speaker 2:I do ask often when the comet's coming just to put us out of our misery. No, I don't mean put us out of misery, I just want like war of the worlds, maybe less.
Speaker 3:Let me put this out of the picture.
Speaker 4:I just want like War of the Worlds, maybe less. We're all human beings and like we have this like common thing, we need a common enemy. Yeah, today is our Independence Day 100%.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's tons of data to show that during wartime people are actually less depressed. They have more meeting in life or just have the Olympics year round.
Speaker 4:Did I say? What did I say? Year no just the Olympics all day every year. Every country would be completely on the same page.
Speaker 3:But nobody watches the Olympics. Now I watch everything on the. Olympics Give me a good high jump.
Speaker 1:I literally watch anything on the Olympics. I'll watch volleyball. You don't think about it for four years and all of a sudden you're like oh, maria Mamoska doing the triple board jump.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, I love it so much.
Speaker 1:I don't know who any of them are, but I'll watch every sport on Olympics.
Speaker 4:I got bad news for you, but Mosca's a dude, all right, I didn't say. You said Maria, oh, that's a dude, there you go.
Speaker 2:I mean, could be either one.
Speaker 4:You're not using your pronouns.
Speaker 2:They're coming from Russia. What did I say? Hair cream?
Speaker 4:Kremlin hair cream.
Speaker 3:Kremlin hair cream. Alien invasions. What were we talking about right before you dragged that off?
Speaker 2:Why is this me dragging it off? I don't know.
Speaker 3:I had something valuable. We brought up aliens.
Speaker 1:I was talking about truth mattering? No Vietnam.
Speaker 3:Oh, vietnam, oh yeah yeah, so if I'm part of a unit of infantry because that's probably what this guy was right, yeah, yeah, which is basically and not to like slight anybody in infantry, because I haven't done it, I haven't been there but, like you, don't have a lot of special skills yeah, they're not the doctors, yeah, yeah, you're just the grunts, yeah, and young too, totally. And you come across a alien ship that crashed. Yes, you know what the us government probably would do yeah, well, so just melt them all down.
Speaker 3:But so here, but here, but here's, but you're right, but here's what happened.
Speaker 2:So he says that they came across it and they didn't. They at the time they honestly just thought it was a satellite or some russian weapon like they. He said not one of us at the satellite. And so they just were there and he says and right away we saw three jets, american jets, start flying over us, and then they radioed and said someone radioed and said hey, are you there? Like yeah, okay, hey, are you there? They're like yeah, they're like hey, don't fucking move.
Speaker 1:Okay, hold on, we're in Vietnam, yeah.
Speaker 2:They stumble across this thing it was right by the border of Cambodia, okay.
Speaker 1:Why were the jet people not already there securing the site?
Speaker 2:Because they literally were like on patrol on the border and they saw it come down and crash.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, and they walked over to it Okay.
Speaker 2:And then, as they were there, they literally assumed it was a satellite, he said. Not one of us thought it was a UFO at all and then they saw the jets and they said oh, maybe it's something serious.
Speaker 2:They thought it was a Russian thing and so they waited. And then they said we're going to come. And then a bunch of other military people showed up and said you fucks go watch. And they made them go stand far away and then they just stood there until then. They were sent back home and then a couple of them were split up and I think of the original 12, like nine of them died in super dangerous missions in Vietnam. Because they all got reposted. None of them got posted together, they got separated and then during that time they all started getting like background checks done again by the government. They kept like they got, he said, for the next year and a half he was under crazy scrutiny. People kept coming to ask him more questions and then finally, after a year and a half, he was read in. But why him? Because he was already compromised. But was he? He saw a satellite crash, but he saw it. Well, you know what he thinks, but he saw it. Enough to say, look, he's already seen it. He's survived another year of war.
Speaker 3:So let's just read them in and perhaps this is my problem with the whole ufo thing uh, and whistleblowers is how many people have hypothetically seen this and we've had what like three come forward. Yeah, three, that's it, yeah, three, it's like.
Speaker 2:It's like the moon landing, which was probably fake kremlin hair cream if your hair just doesn't have that classist cyst you're looking for.
Speaker 1:For silky smooth, feel yeah. Yeah, that classist, communist, look A really glass-nose pelican turn.
Speaker 2:It's nice we can find that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just everything, all these always.
Speaker 4:Preferred by Bolsheviks everywhere.
Speaker 1:These guys just always sound so like they got all this information, but it's like so abstract. Sound so like they got all this information, but it's like so abstract and like nothing is like. It's just always like-.
Speaker 2:There's no evidence.
Speaker 3:There's no one evidence ever, never, and you're like.
Speaker 1:I just want, like how do you have nothing?
Speaker 3:Yeah, like if they're like hey, go to Hangar 10 in Rockefeller Ohio and you'll find it right now. Right, you're like okay, or is?
Speaker 2:it the same thing? Oh no, I know where it is Well.
Speaker 1:I can't tell you, I can't tell you where it is. Oh, sorry, that was classified information.
Speaker 2:Do I know? Do I know where? I do know where it is, if that's what you're asking me, the things that I know, of which I do, yeah, not you though.
Speaker 1:That's what they always say, it just like well, yeah, without naming names. I'm like, oh, shut up.
Speaker 3:How about you name some names?
Speaker 4:bro, I know, you name names, seinfeld, it's all crazy.
Speaker 1:It's all crazy. Yeah, aliens would be good. I also listened to a podcast lately with Lex Friedman and Annie Jacobson. Have you listened to that? No?
Speaker 3:Oh, my God, you need to listen. I'm not sure if I'm ready. Oh, you have to listen.
Speaker 1:So this girl, this lady, annie Jacobson, she wrote a book just coming out. It came out about nuclear war and she goes through in detail what would happen if a nuclear war began. So she's kind of like hypothetical in terms of like who launches what, but basically how it plays out. And it is scarier shit Because if somebody just like meh pushes a button, we're all dead, because it's just there's like the protocols in place. Are we launch too? They launch, we launch. How does Alberta fare in this whole thing? We are not good because we're too close to the States where we are so good, not great. The point is it does not matter because by the end of like the year one, Like if a nuke drops in new york.
Speaker 1:Like is albert is not. Are we getting? Are we getting crusted too? Well, here's the problem, is one one won't drop. So if they, if a nuke gets shot off into, say, towards new york, and the states, have a coming. So apparently, how it works is the president has literally six minutes to make a decision. If we're launching a counter-attack and he's supposed to, he's basically supposed to 100 launch counter-attack, because he only has a certain period of time by which he would be able to, because if a nuke blows out the infrastructure in certain areas, some of them aren't going to launch.
Speaker 1:Which by the way is a three-body problem on Netflix.
Speaker 2:I have to watch that, have you?
Speaker 3:read the book.
Speaker 2:I have read the first book. It was a tough read given that it was translated. It is a thick, like it's sci-fi heavy.
Speaker 1:Basically they have to make. He makes a decision and they're expected essentially to just launch, counter and like launch them all, basically, and like launch them and send to the area that they came from, knowing that they're probably going to counter, launch and it's just going to go across, and then all of a sudden, there's not just one nuke hitting, it's 50 or a thousand, um, and that sounds great yeah, exactly, and then basically from that everyone dies, because nuclear winter happens, nothing can grow, uh or we get to do the fallout series yeah exactly.
Speaker 2:So let's get corbin.
Speaker 1:You would definitely be a ghoul except that yeah I don't know, what that means, but 100 you'd be a ghoul that you would move to old vegas so the fall would be awesome if we had the infrastructure set up, but we could jump into these fallout shelters and hide for about 100 years and then come out.
Speaker 3:I still think we need to build one.
Speaker 1:Well, there are some. That's the thing it's like in the States. They have like. It's crazy, they have three giant government facilities that are buried under the earth.
Speaker 4:Give me the nuclear.
Speaker 2:Because it would be like I'm not living underground with a bunch of fucking heathens. No, I can't.
Speaker 3:I'll take it like it's just smelling everybody's feet and stuff. Well it should.
Speaker 1:They have ventilation actually I don't know how it would work, because if you can't vent out from the outside, if there's like nuclear waste, I don't know how that works you know.
Speaker 2:Anyway, it's really good. You know, the acronym for your podcast is ass right yeah, it's true, ass no asp. It's ass um, do you smell?
Speaker 3:ass I really.
Speaker 2:I really liked this. The last one. I really liked the fact that you don't believe in chiropractors.
Speaker 3:I really enjoyed that? Yeah, because I don't either.
Speaker 2:I think it's just a crock of shit yeah, it's completely made up.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm gonna crack my bones. I kind of do it because you crack my phone.
Speaker 1:So when I hurt, when someone hurt my knee, I went to, uh, a physio slash chiropractor who does active release. So he's that physio slash chiropractor who does active release. So he's a chiropractor but does active release and like he specializes. Also not real, in case you were wondering.
Speaker 2:Specializes in knees and stuff, what kind of release?
Speaker 1:Active.
Speaker 3:Active yeah go on Anyway.
Speaker 1:so I actually brought it up to him.
Speaker 3:It was like something about like so how do you like, how do you feel?
Speaker 1:practicing fake medicine. I remember what I said. It was something like I basically asked him if he got hassled for for his job and he's kind of like well, no, like. Some people like it, some people don't like okay I asked my actual doctor last.
Speaker 2:I was like hey, chiropractors, that's bullshit, right.
Speaker 1:And she's like well, I'm like okay, good enough, thanks, have you seen those instagrams that he thought, like have you seen those Instagrams of that guy that pretends to be a chiropractor and it's like like a skeleton, like a toy skeleton, yeah. And he's like, okay, I'm just gonna like slightly adjust you. And he goes boom and like smashes the like neck into the, like coccyx, that cuts your ass, your table. Yeah that, but like it's so, it's so weird because they'll like basically try to hook around.
Speaker 1:It looks like they're shoving two fingers deep in your butt, oh, and they hook around like it active release oh my they hook around it and they kind of pull it up and like that has to feel so weird. That's how how you find the spot, I guess so Isn't that where the male G-spot is?
Speaker 2:What is it called the B-spot?
Speaker 3:I don't know.
Speaker 2:B-spot.
Speaker 1:Anyway, it's a weird thing that I keep seeing on Instagram. Okay, well, Well next time.
Speaker 2:I'm at my chiropractor.
Speaker 3:I'll make sure I get my coccyx.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh doctor, Do you mind? Can you just active release my B-spot please? My B-spot.
Speaker 4:If I kind of go to my chiropractor closer. Yeah, I keep, like you know, no, two fingers two fingers Closer. I'm probably doing it wrong.
Speaker 1:That's the spot, and in Thailand you can get insanely cheap.
Speaker 2:Thai massages.
Speaker 1:They're really good. Oh, can you Like legit massages?
Speaker 3:I'm talking about the ones with the endings? Do?
Speaker 1:you have a picture of your uncle.
Speaker 2:Not with him.
Speaker 1:Okay, but they basically it's like a big, it's almost like one big room and they put like just sheets between and they all get massaged.
Speaker 1:It sounds like it's not that type of, it's not like the happy ending Kremlin real cream so, but they're very, very good and they get like their shins in there, like they're like it hurts, but they work like upper thighs and so he this apparently. So this chick had like nails, like really really long nails, and they really get up and drop the thighs and he hears his buddy next to her.
Speaker 1:He's like okay, yeah, like you're getting a little close there. Like, yeah, yeah, a little close. He's like ah, he started screaming. He's like she's like what. He's like she nicked my butthole with her nail. She was like massaging. And she's like and like nicked his b-hole with her like freaking long manicured nail.
Speaker 4:do we like these long nails? No, it's like lips. They look awful. How are they functional? How do they text you, even with their phone.
Speaker 2:How do you use the phone? It's not for you, it's for them, so they can feel beautiful.
Speaker 1:I don't get it. It's fine, I just feel like it's not functional.
Speaker 2:What's that got to?
Speaker 1:do with nails?
Speaker 3:No, how do we feel about lips?
Speaker 1:Do we?
Speaker 3:feel the same way. What do you mean about lips?
Speaker 2:I'm out on any the B lips? Any of that? Oh, I hate those. You see the size of my lips. Come over here and look at how big my lips are.
Speaker 3:Those are some plump voluptuous lips.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's a lot of them.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like the lips that look like they cushion the landing off the top of the building.
Speaker 4:You think they get? It seems like they got worse with plastic surgery. It's body dysmorphia.
Speaker 1:It's all in the mirror.
Speaker 4:Right, like they all look like they got clown masks.
Speaker 1:Like, how did they look at themselves in the mirror and be like, hmm, you know, it's not quite enough, yet I'm going to put a little bit more in there.
Speaker 4:Oh, that pucker face.
Speaker 2:Oh, the person afflicted by it literally sees something different than you see. Yes, everyone sees something different than you see. That's how light works.
Speaker 4:What did Larry Davis say? Larry Davis said the picture. Never mind, I'll think about it.
Speaker 2:That is how we end 90% of our podcasts Fuck it.
Speaker 4:The picture is how other people see you, but the mirror is how you see yourself.
Speaker 2:Yeah, interesting. Again, that's how light works and how your eyes see things.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was on this course a couple weeks ago and they talk about vision and it's actually really interesting when you think about it, because we're seeing it oh look, I'm seeing everything but you're actually you can only really see like one to three percent of what you're looking at.
Speaker 1:Everything else your brain kind of just fills into pieces. And they show this interesting study where, uh, they have these glasses on somebody and everywhere you look it, it has, um, it blocks out the specific spot you're looking with, like this little like box, and so it says, like what, look at this scene? Okay, now find the guy in a top hat, and you're like, oh, easy, but every time you're looking, the box is moving and blocking that specific spot and you realize literally nothing else is clear, like you can't, it's just so weird because it's like, because it's like you're not in our brains, it feels like I can look at him, but I still know you're there and I feel like I can still see you, but it's like I can't really take any detail and I couldn't rely on it at all without the very specific perception of like looking straight at what you're at. Let's go, tanner, you're not as sexy as I think you are, then it's really it's really weird.
Speaker 4:Or is he sexier?
Speaker 3:maybe I'll probably not, but it's like your nose, especially me, because I have a large schnoz. I can't see it right now, but if you close one eye suddenly you can see your nose.
Speaker 4:You can see your nose with one. Oh, I didn't realize that that's pretty cool.
Speaker 3:Yeah, weird, yeah, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2:Did you know you can only like? 12% of men can lick their elbows. Shut up, stop. Can lick their elbows. Stop.
Speaker 1:You're an idiot. Stop, yeah, gotcha.
Speaker 2:You did it, you tried, you fucking idiot.
Speaker 3:Anyway, that's funny how many listeners do you guys have on your podcast? Yeah, that's a good question.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, that's good, yeah, yeah go ahead. So we've got a little, uh, fragmented system where he's, so he takes over the google and spotify part of it and I take over the apple part of it, and so we have, like I don't know, like from the apple part of it, we have like like I don't know, like I guess what are we saying? Active listeners what are?
Speaker 1:we saying Average per episode I guess I think we've crossed.
Speaker 2:I think overall it's about 60. I think, yeah. I think well, maybe more. We added up Apple and the other ones.
Speaker 1:Like you're saying 60 per episode. Yeah, that's pretty good. Why do you not? So? Whatever you hosted on, it doesn't show up like as a total. Of this is how many?
Speaker 2:listens on all the things combined, probably it's not very good oh, so I'm just so it doesn't show that it. It links directly. So, like the, the program we use uh to to edit and to send out uh, it's pre-linked to to all the distributors, so we can, we can just hit a button.
Speaker 1:Click and it takes you right to that page so site. Oh, interesting. So the one that we use. It'll show like you've had 30 lessons on this episode. This many Spotify, this many Apple this many.
Speaker 2:No it doesn't do that.
Speaker 4:No, I guess we picked a bad one. You guys using podcast.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, no, no he tried it, but he couldn't figure it out. It's not that I figured it out.
Speaker 4:It's kind of a pain in the ass.
Speaker 1:Honestly what we do on this. I'm just used to doing it now, so it's really quick. And I was like I don't want to figure this thing out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it's just what.
Speaker 1:That's the only one we ever used to begin with.
Speaker 2:So I'm sure there are better ones.
Speaker 1:So why did you guys decide to to, since we should probably talk, ask you some questions oh okay, so uh everyone.
Speaker 4:This is our aliens, you guys, the aliens of land as aliens this is the radical apathy podcast.
Speaker 1:Uh is joining us today. Uh, why did you guys decide to start other? Okay, I know you're part-time actors. The show you had was awesome. I loved it. You guys were the. Obviously the stars of the show stole dayton's thunder.
Speaker 2:Good job well, okay, but it's it's we did, because dayton's not very good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, 100, I get it yeah yeah, uh, so you stole, uh, actually, and our one of our previous guests, ali, uh uh, she, I would say she's better than you, but but other than that, you guys did really well. So uh was it? You're spending so much time together in that process that you're like let's start a podcast, or how did that happen, you know? Oh, you want me to go first? Yeah, you go ahead.
Speaker 4:Well, the thing is is, uh, our scenes in that show me and tanner are always in it together, yeah, and we're always together. And so I think, over the we, we practice for months, like months and months and months, from like june to october, like, yeah, and we took it upon ourselves, whether we were outright about it or secretly doing it, just trying to make each other like one up, the last time that we and that's what we were doing going forward, forward, forward, and by the end of it, I think we were pretty tight in or comfortable with each other. That for me, it was just because I wanted to spend time with you still yeah, yeah, it really.
Speaker 2:That was the other day. I just it was a release to be with corbin, especially on the b-hole, so like two fingers, two fingers, two finger release three if you're lucky active release. Is that what?
Speaker 4:you called it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, corbin corbin corbin's my active release and, uh, I didn't want to give it up yeah, I like that, like I mean honestly, because like it's just like an excuse to get away for like three hours and have good time, bullshit, right, like uh, I'm assuming the same for you guys, kind of and and you know some people who know us on this podcast, like it's me and tyler didn't know each other.
Speaker 4:No, before this, no, um, so it was all organic. Yeah, kind of worked out.
Speaker 2:And we uh, yeah, just, and the one kind of thing we both kind of settled on is we wanted to keep the keep the comedy live and we'd like to make it silly, but we also wanted to touch base on on mental health, cause there's I mean, everyone, no matter what you do, experiences that and I think it's not talked about a lot. And Corbin has his path, he's walked with his own way and and and while it's not the whole part of what we do in our show, we just try to kind of communize the talk of it. Yeah, take away the stigma and just have a little piece.
Speaker 4:It's something we kind of like to have at the end of our show and then remind people that nothing really fucking matters.
Speaker 3:Really.
Speaker 4:Really, we're going to argue about some shit on our next show.
Speaker 2:Right, and when we have you guys on our show, okay and it really. Yeah, it doesn't, it doesn't, it doesn't fucking matter, right, it really?
Speaker 4:doesn't.
Speaker 1:Uh, so good.
Speaker 3:Well, no, I like it does your friends and just bullshit with your friends or your family, like those are the things that matter. So I think that's probably why podcasting is a lot of fun, is like probably a lot of our problems in life would be solved if more people just sat down and talked instead of like Twittered X'd at each other. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Um yeah, it's hard to call people a fucking loser with their face.
Speaker 3:It is yeah Because you, you gotta be willing to accept the consequences.
Speaker 2:Yeah sometimes you gotta take the punch. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Two things, Two things. One. Cj, you're breathing a lot into the mic. Yeah, are you okay?
Speaker 3:I need air to live.
Speaker 1:It's been happening for a while and I didn't want to mention it.
Speaker 3:Do you need more of the sminafiki? Why didn't you say that earlier?
Speaker 2:I don't say anything because it's not our podcast.
Speaker 1:Well, I honestly didn't know it was you or Corbin for a while, so I was trying to figure out who it was before I mentioned it.
Speaker 3:I like how you let a problem sit for like 45 minutes. Well, there's a good conversation.
Speaker 2:Second of all, so I know.
Speaker 1:All very interesting. I'm curious about what's your thoughts on this. So I think it's very important that, obviously, that conversations had more people are more willing to have to talk about it, uh. But then I also think that there's a line of um where we don't talk enough about resilience to some degree, where, like, especially for a kid, from a kid's perspective, where we uh, there's a new book that came out that I'm going to get.
Speaker 1:It's called bad therapy and it's about how we're over-therapizing our children so that they don't really know how to solve problems on their own, because it's like okay, well, no, you're probably just depressed, so we're going to you talk to somebody versus well, no, this is just a feeling that you're having, cause life's hard sometimes and you need to push through, and I know that there's varying levels of like what people deal with. That can cause like mental health, like depression side, versus like struggles that are hard. But I feel like in the world that we're living in, we're very quick to to. Everything is labeled versus uh, sometimes you got to push through some things like what's your, what's your take on that?
Speaker 3:yeah, I don't care.
Speaker 1:Perfect, perfect and this was the radical apathy where can people find your podcast?
Speaker 2:we're done whatever right yeah, it's fine. Where can they find us? You can find us.
Speaker 4:You can find us On YouTube. Radical Apathy Podcast. You can find us On Twitter Slash X At Apathy Podcast and Facebook Radical Apathy Podcast. I'm getting a head rush From laughing so much.
Speaker 1:Are you videotaping yours or no?
Speaker 4:Videotaping.
Speaker 1:Video of your podcast. No, we're not Filming.
Speaker 4:We're not filming tonight.
Speaker 2:We are thankful that you guys had us on here.
Speaker 4:Yeah, this is cool.
Speaker 2:And we are Excited to extend the invitation For you guys To come to ours as well. Do we have time?
Speaker 1:For that.
Speaker 2:Can we set up a date in time when?
Speaker 1:we have that and we'll have that discussion.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when you get on our show, stop breathing in the mic.
Speaker 4:I'm just breathing.
Speaker 3:Is this better if I put my nose further away? Probably.
Speaker 4:It's that big ass nose here. I can fucking see it too if.
Speaker 3:I shouldn't I?
Speaker 1:I should have said that an hour ago.
Speaker 2:Thanks for having us guys. This was nice. Thanks for coming. Sorry about hour ago.
Speaker 3:Thanks for having us guys, this was nice. Thanks for coming. Sorry about my breathing. Thanks for listening to the podcast. I've learned a lot today. Have you Good?
Speaker 1:I'm glad I didn't get my questions answered, so that's awesome. Have a good night. We'll talk to you later. Bye.
Speaker 3:Bye.
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