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The Average Superior Podcast
# 42: The Zyndemic: Impulse Control, The Moon Landing Question and Government Influence, Issues in Education & Society
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In this episode of the Average Superior Podcast we dive into what it means to control your impulses as it relates to your diet, how the government exerts controls through their narrative over us and what if anything we can do when it does, and most importantly what is happening to our children through the use of therapy, labels and diagnoses and how to raise strong resilient children.
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Bad Therapy written by Abigail Shrier
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0:04 - Impulse Control and Lindor Rankings
7:53 - Debating the Moon Landing Conspiracy
20:16 - Questioning Government Influence and Individual Action
29:33 - Negative Effects of Over-Therapy on Kids
33:04 - Labeling and Diagnosis in Children
36:37 - Issues in Education and Society
45:40 - Teaching Kids About Effort and Reward
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Speaker 2As Hemingway said, there is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man. True nobility is being superior to your former self. Everyone feels the same way you do All right.
Speaker 1It's what you do right now that makes a difference. Universal laws were lacking Context. They were kings, context, ever King. Are we recording? I think we're recording.
Speaker 2This is so frustrating.
Speaker 1Alright, welcome back. You're never going to hear the half an hour that we recorded, so just to update you listeners on our progress.
Speaker 2Give us like a. We should do the same thing.
Speaker 3Give us like the same thing, we'll talk about the same thing. Start the same way and see where it goes.
Speaker 2No, let me just okay, can you give us the Coles notes?
Speaker 1It's been a month since we had a podcast. We recorded one in that month and it didn't record. So we came back today and we're recording a podcast. We just did about 30 minutes, decided to pause to check to make sure it recorded, thank God we did? It had recorded one minute and 36 seconds. So, during that last 30 minutes, what did you miss? You missed. You missed that aspartame is maybe okay for you as long as you're only having one can of Diet Pop per day.
Speaker 2How many can? What's the maximum? 3,000 milligrams.
Speaker 33,000 milligrams of acetate 3,400 milligrams is 200 milligrams in a can.
Speaker 2So you can have like 16 pops a day. Okay, that's okay. Apparently it's okay.
Speaker 3Don't worry about it. So one's not a lot.
Speaker 1I was heating Tony up about nicotine and I was happy that he wasn't having any, cj said I should get off his ass and let him have nicotine because nicotine is good for you. I debated that fact and said it's actually not that good for you. We agreed to disagree and moved on with life. Well and we talked about the Zindemic. The Zindemic Zins are not so good.
Speaker 3I wonder if kids are doing the Zins too. Probably Kids are doing zins.
Speaker 1Yeah, if you want to know the side effects good and bad of nicotine, just Google it. It comes up everywhere.
Speaker 2Mayo.
Speaker 1Clinic is a good source of information, we think.
Speaker 2Not sure. It's okay, it's better than the FDA. There you go, or the CDC, yeah, cdc.
Speaker 1Or the WHO or the who. Yeah, I'm still fired up, though so we're good.
Speaker 2Uh, where else would we talk about?
Speaker 1we talked about impulse control, impulse control and, uh, I was contradictory, like I usually am. I started the podcast by saying you know something's good for you, maybe you should just do it. And then, or no, so no, not if something's good for you, if you like to do something, maybe you should just do it. And then I backpedaled and said, yeah, maybe that's a bad idea you can't.
Speaker 1I agree, you have to backpedal right you can't just hardline that like you're not going to do anything fun, no, I know, yeah, I just want to crush a mini egg sometimes and I'm going to crush a mini egg Sometimes, yeah, mini eggs, or sorry muck. Muck.
Speaker 3I want to muck a mini egg jujubes, but not anymore. Yeah, where we left off, was I think you talking about candy? Yeah, and what you've cut out of your life. I'm anti-sugar right now, okay, right now. Yeah. Impulse control, yeah, yeah, that's fine. So you like the sour jujubes and you're not having any more of those correct.
Speaker 2Oh man, those are good. I'm trying to, trying to just fight my impulses.
Speaker 3Big bag of dino sours from costco.
Speaker 2Right, yeah, let's, let's, let's get fat seasoning back and this, like JB, will muck some Lindors.
Speaker 1Is that your go-to? I will eat multiple Lindors at a time.
Speaker 2yes, See, now I'm good for one or two, but you give me like a four kilogram bag of dinosaurs. Good to go.
Speaker 1Went to an outlet mall near Edmonton a while back. It's near edmonton a while back.
Speaker 3It's got a lindor shop in it and you can get like 300 lindor in like a. Do it, I did and it was amazing.
Speaker 1All one flavor. No, no, no, no. You got to mix up the flavors.
Speaker 3Yes, what's your favorite lindor flavor?
Speaker 1I don't know, I like them all I have no flavor.
Speaker 3Do you have like a top kind of?
Speaker 1top top three on the board. What's on?
Speaker 3the, the red one, milk chocolate, milk chocolate, cj. Um, what's your podium? Like one on the podium what do you think?
Speaker 1maybe I don't like these as much as you like them my wife is a big lindor fan, like huge, so you're so into this. It's freaking me out.
Speaker 3We uh, we had a weekend alone with the kids there and we had a good conversation for about 30 minutes and we ranked our lindors and I know her top, top couple hey, can I?
Speaker 1okay also on the previous podcast that you missed because you couldn't hear it, because it didn't record. Can you tell us how you're crocheting with your wife? But don't look at him like that.
Speaker 3You know what? No, this is the thing I. I'm too fired up for this.
Speaker 3I don't know why, but I feel it was fun. It was fun. It's great. Woobly kits is what you go and you google that. It's 40 bucks a kit. It comes with everything you need to crochet. She got a shark, I got a dinosaur. Yes, we crocheted. I learned how to single stitch, increase stitch. I'm working on my double stitches where I'm at right now and then there's a double back stitch that I have to do to finish the scale off. Good, this is really good.
Speaker 2When society collapses, you can make us fucking sauce.
Speaker 3Oh, I'm sorry, I like to do activities.
Speaker 1We'll be the hunter-gatherers and you can still make us close.
Speaker 3Every time our kids go away. We have a night where we do like an activity, the problem with this activity. We had to be like no wine, no nothing, because it's actually kind of hard to do.
Speaker 1I'm going to turn you down a little bit because you're banging, banging the top on the auto.
Speaker 2You know what else we talked about. What's that tanner's tanner's story?
Speaker 1oh yeah, to be real so, tanner, if you're listening uh I after real. After we did our podcast with you guys and I started thinking about the alien story you told me I really started to doubt the legitimacy, and I honestly, because I know you would do this. You would literally, you would make up this whole story just to screw with us and I kind of thought that's what you did, uh, but cj actually said you did not he still did, he did I can send you the link that he sent me and you're gonna listen to it and scoop the neat thing is.
Speaker 3Here's the deal I bet he put that on. He put that on the internet, he went.
Speaker 2He's making money. Then, um, what if it's true?
Speaker 3Oh God, let's not do the alien thing Cool. I don't know. Yeah, okay, great, I want to talk about you and sour jujubes instead.
Speaker 2You know what I want to talk about.
Speaker 3What my crocheting that you guys are Well, we can circle back to that. Well, no, it's not.
Speaker 1You're a lot right now, jason. I'm sorry, I'm in a really good mood.
Speaker 2You're fired up about crocheting Fired up, have my zero sugar pop. Could you imagine how good your crochet would? Be if you had a couple of zins in your lips. Can you imagine that was?
Speaker 1actual sugar. How crazy of you are now.
Speaker 3That's actually caffeine of the zins, and I have one left in a container after I almost pooped myself. I'm like I'm never doing this again, but I really want to do it again. Yeah, you do. Oh, is that what happens? And then do you just stop pooping yourself after a while yeah, like everything, all substances, you develop a tolerance.
Speaker 1Exactly it's like smokers who smoke. They don't get that like brain rush or head rush anymore. They that's true normal yeah, uh, I'm not saying that it's fake.
Speaker 3Okay.
Speaker 1I'm agnostic. I don't have a strong opinion either way.
Speaker 2Did you listen to the podcast with Rogan? I have not, so I tried to listen to it. Is it the new?
Speaker 1guy that was just on recently, yeah.
Speaker 2Within the last couple of days. I haven't listened to it.
Speaker 3no, Because I also have my own questions about the moon landing.
Speaker 2Don't listen.
Speaker 3I really want to hear your thoughts. Then we can talk about cold plunging after we can.
Speaker 2My issue is. So I started listening to this podcast.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2I'm not. I don't want to dissuade you from listening to it. I want you to make your own decision. Okay, thank you. But this, make your own decision. Okay, thank you. But this guy? So he would keep saying that joe would ask him something and he'd say things like well, is it possible that you know this isn't true, or this happened, or is it possible this or this? And the guy would always say no, it's not possible. This is the only. This is the truth, this is the truth, it's the only way it happened. And I got so frustrated with him saying it. I turned it off because I was really interested to talk about the moon landing.
Speaker 1Are we bothering your video watching over there?
Speaker 3No, I'm trying to figure out which podcast he's talking about which, Joe Rogan one I was really excited to talk about the moon landing and then this guy just lost me so sorry.
Speaker 1Is this guy saying that it for sure happened? He's saying it for sure did not happen.
Speaker 2Oh did not, and I'm capable of believing that it didn't happen.
Speaker 1Same. Here's the thing. Well, it's kind of important, I think, if it didn't happen Because obviously it was, I don't know. The thing is, if you start looking into it, I think you can convince yourself very easily it did not happen, because there is enough, uh, things out there that really shine a light on some of the fallacies or some of the things that, like, just don't make much sense and maybe they don't make sense because we're morons.
Speaker 1That could be a possibility too, but like, like, as simple as the uh, the lighting sources and some of the pictures that they sent back and like the 90 degree angles in the shadows, completely just things that just don't make sense no, but it's, but it's completely it.
Speaker 1And again it's it was super convenient at the time in which it happened. Right, it had they need, they needed it to happen in some ways from like political pressures and that kind of thing. So it's like, oh, that's very convenient that it all like, guess what we did it? Here we go with the first ones, um, so there's there's, there's definitely reasons that I think that it maybe didn't happen, but I'm definitely I'm not gonna jump out and say it for sure didn't happen. Obviously I don't.
Speaker 2I don't know, I'm an idiot but I did other countries land people on the moon they don't have to, because the states were there first.
Speaker 1No.
Speaker 3I don't know.
Speaker 1I don't know.
Speaker 2If only we had a guy that could look that up.
Speaker 3You know what? Alright, fine, that's a good point.
Speaker 1That's my job. I thought China did a couple moon missions.
Speaker 2Yeah, but what if the states made it up, which is entirely plausible?
Speaker 3Yep, oh God, I don't want to tell you, I don't want to tell you.
Speaker 2Nobody else has landed on the moon.
Speaker 3Yeah, no one else has landed on the moon.
Speaker 2Yeah, so that's the thing, right. So if the states made it up and no other country has landed on the moon, what if we're not nearly as advanced in space travel as we think we are?
Speaker 1times. That's what they said, they did. Yeah, they're not going to fake five times.
Speaker 3They made the movie with Tom Hanks.
Speaker 1Apollo 13. Oh shoot.
Speaker 3Two before that they went to the moon in Apollo 11. That's got to be recent enough that no one can really fake that stuff.
Speaker 1I disagree. I think you could easily fake that stuff. I think it would actually. Especially back then it would have been very easy to fake that stuff.
Speaker 2And that's what this guy on Rog unrogans said he makes them really like. I probably I don't know I got like 45 minutes or something and he makes some good points. He's just kind of unlistenable because he's unwilling to consider the alternative, that it's not true or like sorry, that it is like they did land on the moon, right um but, but I here's.
Speaker 1Here's the question, though if you go, if you're as deep into it as he is and you know I'm doing air quotes know as much as he does about it? Yeah, would you be able to convince yourself that it actually happened If you were like so sold on? No, there's no way it happened.
Speaker 2I think so. I think I just got frustrated because I don't think anybody should argue from a point of absolution. You know, there's absolutely no chance that this happened.
Speaker 1But okay, except that there are things in life that you could say that you, you, no matter what you're going to argue from that perspective like what?
Speaker 3like nicotine is bad for you we know, long term?
Speaker 2are you absolutely sure? The sun? Is going to rise tomorrow.
Speaker 1Yes, absolutely yeah, unless it blows up so you're not absolutely sure I am absolutely you're absolutely sure. Yes, I will bet you all of your money based on probability.
Speaker 3You are absolutely sure.
Speaker 1Yes, yes so that's my point is like, if you, if you really truly believe and again this comes back to the belief I talk, which we don't need to get into but if you fully, are fully bought into belief of something that is literally like you will argue from absolution, you'll die for that thing because you believe it absolutely but that's.
Speaker 2I just don't think that lends it. That does not make you credible if you're unwilling to consider the possibility that you're wrong.
Speaker 3Yeah, these arguments are so hard to have because it's like they went to the moon that there's probably people can pick apart the video, pick up all the stuff. The proof that they went to the moon is yes, we went to the moon. What's the?
Speaker 1proof here we are on the moon.
Speaker 3Well, yeah, but a couple photos yeah, but how do you, how do youuments to their picking it apart? Oh, the sun's this way, and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1No, because no, I disagree because they. Because in that argument, specifically like the moon thing, they have some very scientific arguments about why they think it didn't happen. So, whether that's the photos, whether that's the radiation going there, and there must be counter arguments for how he did.
Speaker 1You would think, but I found and this is years ago, I looked this stuff up because I got interested in it I found that they weren't as credible. They didn't solve the problem. They just were like oh, that's stupid. We solved that because, again, technology-wise, think about the year that they went versus what we have now.
Speaker 1yeah, super good cameras and stuff, but like just even like, just like our phones have more technology than they even knew existed back then with it when they sent a rocket to the moon. So it's like they they were working with very rudimentary technology compared to now and we still struggle with with space travel and sending people and doing things like that.
Speaker 3So let's say they lie.
Speaker 1Let's say they lie 100%, so they lie.
Speaker 3Now people have found out they lied. What in the world changes CJ?
Speaker 1Nothing.
Speaker 3That's why it's weird that they wouldn't say it. That's what I mean. Like what's nothing. I wonder what would change.
Speaker 2Actually, what would but that's the whole thing. Nothing on our day-to-day life would change Trust in the government.
Speaker 3Yeah, that's the whole issue with this. This is the year that everyone has trust in the government, right?
Speaker 2now. Yeah, yeah, but that's the whole issue, right? So the government has been hypothetically say they made up the moon landing.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1Let's say they killed JFK, which they did. They did.
Speaker 3Oh God. One thing, good, one thing at a time. We're eating an elephant here, that's one one bite at a time.
Speaker 1The problem is the elephant is a government full of lies like I would say, it's not debatable anymore that the cia killed.
Speaker 3Can you put that on?
Speaker 1yeah, you know what I mean. Like I don't think it's even debatable. I think 100, they killed, they killed.
Speaker 2I just find it really interesting that we we've argued that we live in this western world that's free and democratic, whereas, like I think, some of the biggest lies have been perpetrated by the Western governments.
Speaker 3Oh, for sure.
Speaker 1You're a hundred percent right, and I guess this is the idea.
Speaker 2I just accepted that. I guess I don't know. Why do we? We can't, why do we have to accept that?
Speaker 1What? Am I going to get a sign and go pick it outside of city? Not, we're a peasant, you can't. We're peasants, you can't do anything. Yeah, but that's where, like the idea of does the ends justify the means? And that's where I think some of these people argue from, is from like a cia perspective, like this high level perspective of we're doing this to save democracy. Because if you knew what we had to do to try to save democracy, you would like, you would like it, but it has to be done yeah, everybody thinks they're doing the right thing completely.
Speaker 1Well, yeah, completely, even though they're like profiting a lot of it and that kind of thing. Have you seen the movie the beekeeper yet?
Speaker 2no, jason statham is it good, uh, not really oh no, he's in a slump like no no, like, so, like a, so like liam neeson they're all the same yeah, he's like a five out of ten movies his part is actually pretty good, like his.
Speaker 1His role. I actually didn't. It was pretty good. He just destroys people and it's awesome.
Speaker 1But there's, like this other role, this fbi agent and this female and she was so bad in the movie that literally ruined the movie like she just, it was like my wife was like I couldn't like the movie was wrecked because she looked like she was in a costume the whole time, like she didn't fit the role. She just it was a problem. Bad casting, very much so, but she but uh, jason statham, part of it was actually decent. The whole point is, though, the I'm not gonna. I'm gonna ruin this now.
Speaker 3I won't ruin this but like, if you're gonna ruin the movie, are you gonna ruin the movie?
Speaker 1the beekeeper for us so the beekeeper is like the idea is that there's this like uh program outside of everything else. It's like the thing that tries to make sure that everything is uh, protecting the hive, make it like a democracy right, making sure that everything runs and that they are have autonomy to do whatever they need to do to keep that running, whether that's murder presidents or whatever the thing is.
Speaker 3It's born identity. It's very much like that, but it's not.
Speaker 1It's not controlled by the government. It's like it's not.
Speaker 2It's not controlled by the government.
Speaker 1It's like. It's like outside illuminati and nobody even really knows that they they operate, other than some people sounds like the illuminati. Yeah, it was honestly. It was fine if you wanted a dumb movie to watch a lot of action.
Speaker 3I like that. Do you? Do you know what wasn't dune 2?
Speaker 1yeah, you like that show solid, I like solid movie, you have?
Speaker 3you seen the first one I have?
Speaker 2I might have to try it again.
Speaker 3I'm not super impressed, obviously.
Speaker 2I didn't.
Speaker 3Everybody's like oh, it's the greatest movie ever. Well, that's not what I sound like. No, it was okay. If it comes out with a strong third, it will be one of my favorite trilogies honestly, I might have to give it another chance.
Speaker 2Don't drag me away from Government Corruption.
Speaker 3I was really trying.
Speaker 2I was really trying. Let's get back at it. Why are you okay with it?
Speaker 3Because I can't do anything about it. I'm just. I'm at a stage right now where I'm in my, where I eat what I want stage and I'm just like destroying my body with all the food.
Speaker 1Do you know who he is? He's Cyrus from the Matrix. A hundred percent. You know what?
Speaker 3Yes. I am you want to be plugged back in?
Speaker 1I wouldn't kill you guys. You want a steak? No, just give me the steak. I don't care. Yeah, whatever.
Speaker 3Why oh?
Speaker 1why didn't I take the blue pill? Yeah?
Speaker 3Yeah, I feel like what happens if you were to take them both at the same time. Hey, it works but yeah, I'm very much like that where it's like I just, I just whatever.
Speaker 2So you don't mind being plugged into the matrix.
Speaker 3Right now. No, I'm good In this stage of life. I just I want to be at home, spend time with the family. That's all I want to do. I just want to avoid everything and I'm not sorry and let me be clear. Sheep, I think we all Bah.
Speaker 2I think we all. Just you have to be okay with being lied to by the people oh, I'm not okay with it.
Speaker 3I just accepted the fact. There's nothing I can do about it. It's true.
Speaker 2No, they want you to think that If you accept the fact you can do nothing about it, you'll never be able to do anything about it.
Speaker 3What is the one thing I could affect change with?
Speaker 2I'm not saying you have to take an action because that's a question that none of us can answer, saying you have to take an action because that's a question that none of us can answer, but that doesn't mean you need to be okay with it completely.
Speaker 3It's like. It's like the. I'm comfortable let's say comfortable with the fact that you've, I don't trust.
Speaker 2I don't trust to like I don't trust the government I really don't.
Speaker 3I'm taxed, it's terrible. But I'm like, yeah, okay, that's this, is it see?
Speaker 1but that's, that's a. That's the problem, because I'm not. That attitude in general is the and it's the attitude that, like you know, you know what does happen, but listen when something happens, when something happens that actually is important to like, uh, that like a die on a hill moment, right where it's like sure, maybe what?
Speaker 1maybe if I can't do anything, maybe my actions aren't going to fix this, but if I go along with it, I'm I'm not okay with that myself for doing that I have regrets about doing stuff like that right, right, but like but that's my point is like that attitude leads to just being like well, I'm just going to do it because it's easier, versus like dying, deciding no, I don't know if this is a super big, important deal, but I know that this is this leads down a path where I'm not comfortable. So it's super. A very easy example of this Not, it's not COVID, that's what I was going to say Well, that's one of my regrets, though, for sure.
Questioning Government Influence and Individual Action
Speaker 1That's not the way, but the super, super easy example of this I can control that no, but the point is like you shouldn't have to control, like if it's something that's important no, like I can control it by just doing what I want and saying what I want okay, yeah, perfect, but that, that. But I'm saying that, can you say what you want? That apathetic attitude is is what leads to what do you?
Speaker 3people just get me to say, yeah, I don't, don't know. Anyway, that's my point. It's just like, oh, I see what you mean To the extreme. Yes.
Speaker 2Right, like you think the American Civil War? The mantra was freedom or death, right, if they?
Speaker 3fake the moon landing. It doesn't change my opinion of the government at all.
Speaker 2I still don't trust them Sure, that's it, right Done. I don't know. People felt so strongly about their freedom that they were willing to die for it. Yeah, I'm not saying that we're there, but you should have some non-negotiables.
Speaker 3There are. There are Like I don't know, I haven't really thought about it, don't know something, something that would affect children. I feel there's a lot of things going and and I shouldn't say that I'm not okay with it, because there's still go to meetings at the school about some of the educational stuff. I still, I still put up, put the voice up there and all that stuff. The bigger picture stuff, like the the moon landing thing is the exam, the moon, I, yeah, I don't care, I don't care, yeah, but it's, that's not.
Speaker 1It's a bad example because it honestly doesn't matter, like it exactly. That's why I don't care about it I get that, but it's still, it's a, that's, it's just a. Don't even think about that as an example, because it's not really, uh, a part of that, but like things, like like I don't know, like the gap.
Speaker 3The gap, no, the gas. I think. I don't know.
Speaker 1I'm trying to think of something like that big thing that that is not good but even something like the carbon tax, like let's just go like to carbon tax yeah, we're all, just, we're all shutting up and eating that though yes have you guys done anything to affect the carbon tax?
Speaker 3no, but no, I haven't either.
Speaker 1I paid it, I paid it other than other than voting I've supported it other than voting the the uh, the conservative in yes in the alberta election, because they're hopefully gonna, they hopefully can do something about that, or at least they'll fight back against it. So like that's, that's a simple thing, right?
Speaker 3but but then I'm gonna do something to effect change there, because I'm not gonna sell you home in a vote, but I'll probably be conservative. Um, yeah, so yeah, but just bigger things like this.
Speaker 2Sometimes I'm just I accept a lot of the fact that I can't control a lot of the bigger things the government does and I'm just like, ah see, that's the whole problem is I'm letting them have these small wins and I agree 100, but they're big wins, I guess by just not doing anything yeah, we can't win this fight because I think, conservative or liberal, the government, it's still like the uniparty system yeah, I agree. All, all the money, all the influence, it all goes to the same place. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter who you vote for.
Speaker 1We're never going to actually be able to do it like well, I, I okay, I don't fully agree on that, I think. I think it would be pretty obvious that our country would be running differently if the conservative government was in.
Speaker 2Yes, sorry but it does. It doesn't matter in the sense that the special interest groups or the people that have captured industry, or yeah, it's not going to change right we're never going to have actual control over those things, regardless of which does not matter who's in your right it I don't think it does. Okay, but like what? But what do you?
Speaker 3okay, so you're saying but how do we change that?
Speaker 2And that's the whole thing is like I don't think anybody should be okay with that. I just don't know how you change it, Because you can't change it by voting.
Speaker 3I don't think anyone does. I don't think anyone does and truly like.
Speaker 1I don't see a path to it that like so. So you're saying that, yes, different governments may run the country differently, but you're still going to have special interest groups of money that influence those people?
Speaker 2yes, and to be fair, I understand this much more so because it's more visible in american politics. Yeah right, like the industrial the military industrial complex, the pharmaceutical industrial complex they are large, powerful corporations that exert extreme influence over the government, regardless of which political party runs the government. For sure, yeah. I'm sure it's the same in Canada.
Speaker 1Oh for sure. I just don't think we. Because the States is so. It's so prominent in all of our news feeds, it doesn't matter if we're in Canada or not. That's like the. It's like a game show we're watching.
Speaker 2Yeah, totally, but I think like step one is being not okay with it.
Speaker 1yeah, I agree yeah, I guess yeah, like I agree, focus on things you can control, like it's frustrating like the problem. Is you like it's?
Speaker 3frustrating to be not okay with something and realize that you just cannot do shit about it right, and that's to be fair, and I'll be not okay with something and accept the fact I can't do anything about it. Is that weird?
Speaker 2No, because I think we're all there, I just think like. So I guess that's what I kind of meant If you didn't accept the fact that you can't do anything about it. You'd be on Twitter wearing a tinfoil hat, just raging against the machine, all the comment phases.
Speaker 3The comment phases, oh those are good.
Speaker 2I catch myself pretty quickly because it's a very destructive action. Yeah.
Speaker 3But it's kind of fun.
Speaker 2But it isn't. So this comes back to the whole thing that got fucking missed on our first part. That didn't record is like what are we putting our energy into?
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2Right. Is this a worthwhile pursuit of my energy and time? Because it's very limited on both energy and time every day. Is this worthy of my energy? So?
Speaker 3this goes back to another famous quote from we were not. We're drawn to the friend thing, I'll say my friend, donald trump. Uh, he said that your body is like a battery and you have this much energy and only this much energy your entire life, and so whatever you do is going to deplete that energy and you can't get it back. So you need to be cognizant about what you're putting your energy into totally, which is weird there's a lot of sense yeah, so I think I kind of adopted that mentality.
Speaker 3When it comes to things I cannot change, no matter what I do now.
Speaker 2That being said, if something happens and there is a there's a way to affect change, I'm probably all in right, like what if the government says you know we're going to kill all cattle in the country because we believe that they're contributing to? I've got the Canada flag in my garage.
Speaker 3It's going on my truck and I'm driving around, that's what it?
Speaker 1is, but no, but that is something that's drastic, that will affect my kids and that will affect my family it will affect all of us 100%, permanently, and we should all be lining up in the fields to stop the people who are trying to shoot the cats, but we just take it for granted, because overseas they're doing stuff like this and everyone's Everyone's is bad oh it's so bad.
Speaker 3Everyone's getting involved and it's crazy.
Speaker 2Yeah, I think we just assume or we're just comfortable with oh, that could never happen here.
Speaker 3Yeah, but it always reaches a tipping point. And I hate to bring up COVID, but we saw it with COVID where it, like me, got involved in stuff like like protests and rallies and all that kind of stuff you went and protested no, I didn't, no, I didn't that's what you just said.
Speaker 1Didn't people like people?
Speaker 3like me, who are just probably accepting of the fact that the government can do what they want and then realize, oh no, this is not a good thing, and then actually went out and did the protests and all that stuff. Do you know what I? Mean no, totally yeah, so that wasn't my hill to die.
Speaker 2No, but it maybe, but it maybe should have been, it could have been.
Speaker 3Not to talk about it, but one of my regrets is getting and I'll be honest, one of my regrets is getting the first shot there or whatever, and I look back now and I'm like man, it wasn't necessary, but it is what it is. You know, we talked about this.
Speaker 2I think my position has changed a lot. 100%. We're allowed to change our minds. We change our minds a lot, though.
Speaker 1That's okay though if you do, but it's gonna be fluid. What was the? Uh, the thing that you said earlier that was missed as well?
Speaker 2uh, something average is the enemy of oh yeah, so like the whole thing we talked about, fuck, I wish for that stupid sd card so who's your?
Speaker 3who's your friend that said that, bedros koolian?
Speaker 2oh, your friend, so the owner of fit body boot camp, who talks a lot about, uh, business and entrepreneurship and leadership, and but he talks a lot about personal responsibility and control over impulses, and he always ends his podcast by saying average is the enemy, which I think is very, very true. Right, and yeah, um, that's certainly how we try and approach things is to be not average. Yeah, and we joke.
Speaker 1We know, when we joke around like I think again, it's, it's what. What average is is very much influenced by the people you hang out with. Your I mean your perception of average, I guess is is very much an influence of the people you surround yourself with, because if your average group is all very fit, they work out, they try to do the right things. That's not the average, uh person in general, but it's your average right? So it's interesting because that's it's a very subjective term. I think, uh, but that's, but that's. That's why that's.
Speaker 1Striving to be better is interesting when you surround yourself with people who are doing the exact same thing or are better at certain things. Or, again, we all have we talked about this earlier, I guess, but they all have we all have moments where we're more adherent to certain principles or ideas that we want to do that other times, like whether it's diet or fitness or whatever the thing, reading, whatever the thing is like. There's certain times in our throughout the year where we're like we're on and we're like, yeah, we're, we're on a roll, and then we just like go crashing down.
Speaker 2The trick is to not come crashing down yeah, it's, it's a lot.
Speaker 1It's like I said, I said earlier, I it's like we're gonna I don't know if I said on this one or the one that didn't record uh, it's like you need to allow yourself, uh, some grace, to like have those moments where you mess up, for sure, but then then, but somehow allow yourself to only have that for a short period of time and then then get back up on onto whatever the thing is you're doing. Um, yeah, because I mean there's no point in dwelling and dwelling on the thing that you screwed up on. I mean, yeah, I messed up, I fell off, I've been eating shit for the last week. All right back to it, yeah, and just get back into it.
Negative Effects of Over-Therapy on Kids
Speaker 2But yeah, yeah, totally um, because if you dwell on it, you're just gonna actually that brings me to an interesting.
Speaker 1So the whole dwelling on, like failure, dwelling on feelings, um, reading this, that book, bad therapy right now with abigail schreier, I think you should read it. Yeah, it's for kids. Like, if you have kids, you should definitely read it. Uh, because it talks about a lot with school, the school systems that are pushing on kids and stuff, is that? I thought it was jonathan hate. No, uh, he has another one called because his is all about therapy too right yeah, no, his is about, uh, social media anyway.
Speaker 1No, this one's called bad therapy. Um, and just, I'm not quite done the book or anything, but like the whole the idea of like feelings and dwelling and dwelling on like in, like the bad things, and thinking about the, your screw-ups, and uh, always like people who go to therapy and they're thinking about the thing that made them feel really bad in their life and they focus on that and they just replay it and replay it and replay it. Like there's numerous, numerous studies to show that that does nothing but it makes it worse because you're dwelling in that misery versus acknowledging something. Bad happened maybe, or, depending upon the severity, obviously depends on how much you need to deal with it. But you know, yeah, this happened to me.
Speaker 1Uh, yeah, that's a problem it was. It shouldn't have happened. Uh, it affected me. Now I need to move forward and that's kind of like the going the, the way that you should do it. Like you have to definitely acknowledge it at some like at some point, but like not sit and dwell on it and keep talking about it and every time you go to therapy, bring up the same thing and discuss and discuss it and hash it out for hours. It's just like an acknowledgment of yes, this happened. Now how do I move?
Speaker 3forward. The second part of the title is why the kids aren't growing up. Is that bad therapy? Why the kids aren't growing up? Is it just about kids dwelling in that it's about everything.
Speaker 1No, it's not about. It's about adults and it's about over-therapizing children Is it, oh, it's about in our school systems in an attempt to be ultra uh, not woke, but ultra, like, sensitive to people's feelings and everyone's a special jewel.
Speaker 2And you, everyone's, everyone, everyone, beautiful flower and everyone's feelings matter.
Speaker 1And no, don't make anyone feel bad. All these ideas. They are actually very counterproductive and they make people, they make kids think internally way, way, way too much about how they specifically feel in that specific moment, versus maybe just okay if someone says something crappy to you, okay, well, in that moment that sucked, but now let's go play soccer like let's just move on, versus like now let's talk about? No, let's talk about what. What did they say that made you feel that way?
Speaker 3thank you, for my wife does not listen to this, but uh, my kid got called a loser at school by another kid. He didn't know and it's the first time ever he said that anyone called him a loser yeah, he was he was. He was a dress as what you want to be in your grow-up type thing right so everyone's wearing costumes and random shit.
Speaker 3And and I gave him a flames he had a flames jersey. I got a helmet from a buddy hockey helmet right, he wore the hockey helmet. Some other kid wearing a flames jersey with all the equipment, shin pads, all that stuff with it, walked by him. He didn't know him, he's an older kid, oh, whatever, loser. And he walked away and then land and when he told me about it, he started to tear up and cry and I'm like, okay, well, how do you feel about that? And he's like, well, I don't like it. I'm like, do you think that kid actually remembers and is dwelling on this right now? And he's like, no. I'm like, okay, good, so we're going to go outside and do something. And we did. And my wife's like we want to talk about it. I'm like, yeah, no, maybe we shouldn't. And we just didn't, we didn't hammer it out and we just moved on. Yeah, and I was'm like, no, let's just go and do something physical and we'll be good.
Speaker 1Yeah, I mean it.
Speaker 1there's like this was very honestly this book, I think uh, there's somebody else at uh, the nursing home that I recommended it to and he he's gonna. He's super important because, like they also, it's also from like a parent perspective, like you also need to be careful with stupid, stupid things like uh, putting sending your kid to the doctor to get like their checkup or something, and they're are in school to go talk to the counselor because they have these questionnaires that they start making them at, like asking them. And in the nursing home, when we talk to the visiting children to come to visit their elderly people, there's certainly we know there's ways you talk to kids right, and a lot of that comes down to you have to be very careful about how you say things and what you say to them so that you don't introduce ideas into their mind or you don't lead them down paths that they're just going to want to be agreeable with, or you open up, like you actually implant suggestions into their mind.
Speaker 1So you can kind of control the way they feel about something by saying oh, you must be really sad about that, oh like that and these like that no, but, and that's and that's the problem with all of these things from these counselors and these school, these school counselors and these doctor things, because they have these questionnaires and she reads them in this book and they're like tell us a time that you felt very sad. Uh, tell us about a time that have or have you thought about killing yourself? Have you thought when's? When's the last time you thought about hurting yourself? Have? And so they ask them all these questions where it's like how?
Speaker 1about never, because I'm fucking 10 years old completely, but they ask them these questions and then if, if it's like that idea of wait, I people do this, but this is a thing, or maybe that maybe I'm weird because I don't think about these things, and again it's just, it's, it's actually making things way worse, and then all and these also teachers and I'm not saying all teachers are bad, but these people are trying to be trying to mean well, but they're like diagnosing kids all year. I think your kid has adhd because he's not listening, and so they're trying to like label kids and give them excuses for not having to do things. Uh, the idea of if you have test anxiety.
Speaker 1Now you can get notes where you don't have to do like your. All your tests are now untimed or you don't read well, or you don't do tests well when you read them, so so you'll have a teacher come and read you the questions, and just making all of these exceptions to people is doing nothing but making worse humans.
Speaker 3I like that they're almost opening the door in their mind about these, not the testing thing, but that first part where they're almost opening the door in their mind. They're exposing them to these different things Exactly.
Speaker 2But they're not going, the kids aren't going through them, but they're exposing him to these different things exactly, but they're not going, the kids aren't going through, but they're exposing him to him anyway.
Speaker 1This is a real compelling argument for homeschooling. Uh, completely there's there's a lot, and I don't know if I've seen so much work so late yeah, I don't know if I've seen much of this in like our school system that our kids drive, or anything, oh yeah, but also we all. You might not even see it, because it could be happening where, like, a counselor comes in and does these things right.
Speaker 2You see that a lot with people in the real world.
Speaker 3Um, yes, okay I had an interaction with one of these kids at no frills actually the other day. No, yeah, but what do you see in the real world?
Speaker 2well, no, no, you just like, especially maybe by virtue of the nursing home you like. You see that a lot in the real world where people, uh well, first off, they like claim these labels yeah, right.
Speaker 3Right.
Speaker 2Oh, I have this.
Speaker 1I can't do this.
Speaker 2I can't do this because I have this and I'm just like shut the fuck up.
Speaker 1Yeah, but we've done that to them. We as a society have done that to them, so we've allowed them to use that as their crutch.
Issues in Education and Society
Speaker 2I'm getting pumped up. Oh, it's so frustrating this book makes me angry.
Speaker 3I don't want to read this book. It's going to make me angry.
Speaker 2It makes you angry, but it also is like it's a must read, and I'm going to bring this full circle Either we accept it and do nothing about it.
Speaker 3Insane, and it's going to drive you insane when your kid starts going there and you see some of this stuff it is. It's pissing me off and it is something where I am going to the meetings and sending emails.
Speaker 3I'm probably that parent, but good, but I'm not, it's not changing anything well, somebody's gonna say something um, in no, I went to no frills and uh, this is one of the interactions I had with uh, I'm in there, I'm in the produce aisle this girl who works at no frills who was wearing a no frills uniform. She is stalking the, the vegetables or whatever right so I can't find a vegetable uh yeah she. She looked like she didn't. She probably didn't eat many vegetables, so I went over to her and she's got blue hair.
Speaker 3She's just, and this doesn't. This sounds terrible, but she's a little bit bigger, she's not taking care of herself, right. And I walk up to her 90 degree angle. In her peripheral vision she can see me. She is working in no frills in a uniform and I'm like, hey, sorry to bug you, Do, Sorry to bug you. Do you know where the lemon juice is? Do you know the little bottles of lemon juice? And she looked at me. She's like oh, oh. And she's like, oh, you can't just sneak up on me like that.
Speaker 1And I'm like what?
Speaker 3And she's like I'm just anxious all the time and I'm like what the hell? And she's like OK, I don't know, you have to talk to somebody else. I stopped him like, I just stopped. I asked yes, be angry, cj.
Speaker 2This happened to me.
Speaker 3And I'm like you work here, and she's like yeah, she's like you're out in here when you're working wearing a no frills uniform. She's like yeah, yeah, I know, I'm like okay, well, where?
Speaker 2is the lemon. Answer the fucking question ladies.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's what I said.
Speaker 3I'm like what the hell is going?
Speaker 2and she was like probably 18 or 19, 20, and I don't know if this is what we're seeing now.
Speaker 3That's okay to act like that can you, could you imagine seeing something like that when we were kids?
Speaker 2no, we'd make fun of them what happened?
Speaker 3where were those people when we were kids? Where were?
Speaker 1they actually they didn't. Do they just stay at home? No, they didn't exist. They didn't exist. And if they, and if they did, they're were very, very rare.
Speaker 3Oh my God, it was my first interaction with one of these out in the wild. I was just. I was blown away.
Speaker 2Like I remember the special needs class in my elementary school or junior high were legit special needs, yeah, 100% Like fucking controlling their wheelchair with a straw.
Speaker 3Yeah, right, 100%. And if they didn't, they're still playing soccer at recess. They're still having fun. Yeah, they're still having fun. Yeah, you're right. And no one had peanut allergies. How many? I'm going to go down a big rabbit hole here.
Speaker 2Never mind Sorry about the peanut allergies, I'm sorry. So this is the thing, though, like it's like social. The pressure to just accept it is immense in society, in our world, whereas the appropriate response maybe not to like make fun of them, but the appropriate response is to be like either do your fucking job or go home.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, no, but like, the problem is that it starts in the school system and that's where they cause. They become adults after that, right, and the school system is allowing them to. So my daughter, for example, had a she gets really good marks. She missed a assignment when you went to Mexico. Assignment when you went to mexico, uh, and so she, she didn't know she had to do. It is what she claims anyway. Uh, I look, we can see her her assignments right, and I saw one was overdue and so I was like hey, what's this, what's this assignment you got to do?
Speaker 1she's like, oh, I don't know, I'll ask. So she went and talked to each other and she's like oh, yeah, you got to do that. It's uh, you missed assignment. Cool. I'm like, okay, we'll get that done. Two weeks later, still not done. I'm do that assignment. I was like you're going to get a zero. She's like no, I'm not going to get a zero. Like they don't market. Whenever I had it in, I'm like I don't care, do that tonight and had it in and I was like you should be getting a zero. By the way, you should not be. They should not even look at it.
Speaker 2She should give zeros.
Speaker 1Never, never, if you had and this happened to, oh so my mother-in-law was a teacher for a long time and she was talking to one of the ladies who teaches currently, who just recently quit because she can't deal with it anymore. There was a student there, Like the public school system.
Speaker 1Yeah, there was a student in her class who did nothing, literally did not one assignment, their whole grade. It was like social or something. Did not do one whole assignment the whole term. The final test comes. It is like grade 10 or 11 the final test comes, he takes the final test, he gets a 50 percent. Uh so, and that was worth like 20 of his mark.
Speaker 1So the teacher's like okay well, you got 50 the parents came in and argued, uh, and said, and then the principal ended up saying well, you know he, because, because he got, he actually showed that he demonstrated he knows 50% of the of the curriculum. So we're going to give them a, we're gonna have to give pass them.
Speaker 3So they passed him.
Speaker 1And the same teacher, like, has had had one thing. This is I was like the straw that broke the camel's back. But there was also a time when uh, something, something, nobody. This kid had not handed any assignment until literally the last day of class. Hands in like 15 assignments that were due from the beginning of the semester to the end. Yeah, she was told, you will mark all of them and you will fail grades anymore but she did take his hand. She quit. Yeah, good for her. Yeah, that's a hill to die on.
Speaker 3I know all right yeah but that.
Speaker 1But that's my point is. But the problem is there's not enough of them. So kids like that get through the school system.
Speaker 3They end up working in no frills so that I and my sister doesn't listen to this, but she's a teacher in one of the towns around. Yeah, um, she teaches grade 10. She had to go. She's one of those people like you get, you get the shit done, and if it's not done, you're done. Like that, she's zero nonsense. She's having so many issues with the principal the administration staff because of this because she is that old I guess it's old school. Well there's but the mentality this isn't just high school like the.
Speaker 1There's tons of information colleges and universities where profs who profs who have like homeschool, homeschool yeah, like honestly dude I I just homeschool. Yeah, no, but that's not a solution. It really is it really is so, do you feel like? It doesn't fix the problem well, it to fix your problemization and other things everybody we talk to, all of our friends.
Speaker 2We all kind of think the same. Yes, so from my perspective, I feel like there's a huge desire for something like an apogee academy. I agree, right, um like a.
Speaker 1It's a tim tim tim your friend, your friend, tim my boy tim yes, your guys are our friend, yeah um, I feel like this because I feel, I feel a couple things.
Speaker 2I feel like there's this huge desire for a, an appropriate education system that actually teaches discipline and responsibility, personal responsibility, and I also feel like a lot of young men or middle-aged men, probably more so young men are desperately seeking male role models yeah and don't have them, yeah, and I, we've, I've, we've seen that like we, we, it's apparent, I think, right now with, like you know, 20 year olds who are just looking.
Speaker 1But that's where it's like this access to information sometimes is a good thing, where we have people that we can, as long as you find the right people, like Jocko Joe, those guys who are going to push for again personal excellence, tim Kennedy, those guys my boy BK. Yeah, but as long as you find them, because if you don't find them, the other option is oh, how are you feeling? Oh, if you're not feeling good, don't go to work.
Speaker 2Or the other option is sit at home and fap it all night on fucking pornhub.
Speaker 3Wow and tick off I like, I thought mucking was the funniest word he said today, but that's uh, it's changed now. That's great, but you're right it's.
Speaker 2It's so frustrating because, like our society has created weak men. Oh, what do we?
Speaker 3know, what do we men create?
Speaker 2just say it, get it out of the way, say it hard or weak people, weak people, weak people, right and it's.
Speaker 3Is it going to be the norm? Now this person from no frills like is it? Am I going to start seeing more? And more than the ratio of them. It's going to increase and increase.
Speaker 2Yes, For example. I don't know if this is illustrative of anything at all, but I took my recycling in today. I was the only person there. It was fucking cold, it was raining, but I was outside.
Speaker 1What side of town? The south side, I would say. Correlation is not equal causation in that sense.
Speaker 3Yeah, okay, where are we going with this?
Speaker 1Keep. It's not equal causation in that sense. Yeah, okay, where are we going with this? Keep going. Well, because I was. It was a weekday in the middle of the week.
Speaker 3Did you go at the start of the day?
Speaker 1No, I went at like one Okay. Every time I've gone on like a weekend it's a pain in my butt.
Speaker 2Right, but I was outside, I was cold, I was like good, oh, shorts and a stringer, no look at how tough I am good recycling put that cardboard, make sure you flatten that box, motherfucker? Um yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1I just I'm so desperately concerned that society is creating weak people it is desperately concerned, but the the like, there's no, the jury's not like it.
Speaker 2100 is, there's no question right, but then like and perhaps this is part of the reason we started this podcast. Perhaps this is part of the reason we started this podcast, perhaps this is part of the reason we're so motivated, and some of the things we do is like I do feel a growing and increasing amount of responsibility to do something about it.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Teaching Kids About Effort and Reward
Speaker 2And.
Speaker 1I think. But I think it starts with, like your again, the circle around you and the people around you and your kids, and like, like letting them know it's not okay to be weak and letting them know it's not okay to you know that effort is good. Feeling tired and worn out because you-.
Speaker 3You should yeah, completely.
Speaker 1That's a good thing. It's not like oh my God, like I can't believe it. No, no, no, that's how you should feel. That's a great thing.
Speaker 3I love getting home from a day or going outside and doing something with the kids and then they get home and like seven o'clock they just they're tired, they go to bed and they just crash Because, yes, you were physical all day, you had a good like that kind of thing. I love that and that's the way kids should be is just tiring themselves out all day until they fall asleep.
Speaker 1Yeah, but, and just to know that, like the effort I mean. Here's the problem is, like I think it were, where you do a disservice to our kids, sometimes by rewarding behavior. That should just the reward. This goes back to everything we talk about, but the reward in itself is the action, it's the thing that you're doing. That allows you to become stronger and better at it. You don't need I don't need to take you out to get a Slurpee because you won your game necessarily Like great job.
Speaker 3You did an awesome effort. Sweet, let's go to bed. So I got it.
Speaker 1I've got a great question for you then, because we're going to do this on sunday, we're starting an allowance program in the house.
Speaker 3Yeah, so the kids want an allowance, whatever. It's gonna give them a lot. It's gonna be low. It's like it's like a doll, okay, but I'm like, okay, well, we need to make it. The part is, the motivation is the money here, which is the issue, and I and I know you've talked about it before what's going to be. It's going to be. There's going to be a list. Each kid's going to have a list. All three of the kids each have a list. If they complete everything on the list, they get a dollar. Okay, right, there's going to be a tier two of that list, ooh, tier. And if they complete all these. So this first one is just If you don't get it done.
Speaker 2You sleep outside. Yeah, that's what.
Speaker 3I want to do. My wife told me down a little bit Because this is. I had a family meeting after the blue-haired interaction at no.
Speaker 1Frills, and there's a second tier.
Speaker 3The second tier is your extra tasks. If you complete these extra tasks that are like above and beyond kind of thing, then, yeah, instead of $1 a week, guess what?
Speaker 3It's $2 a week. Now, right, there's a third tier tier which is activities the three of them are required to do together, like jobs. They have to do together essentially, and if those jobs are completed they get a more money. But that money that they got for that goes into a jar and that jar is just there. If you want to go mini golfing, is there money in the jar? Oh, there is. Okay, we'll take you mini golfing. You want to go to movie? Is there money in the jar? Yeah, there is. So those that third tier is like a group effort kind of thing, and so we did this. I'm like I like this idea but I don't like it because money is the motivation to do these things and it shouldn't be, and I don't know how to get around that. It's driving me insane.
Speaker 1I would argue that I like the idea.
Speaker 3I think it's a great idea. I got it from just some guy online, but it's just the money motivator for kids. I'm like how do you?
Speaker 1motivate them to do these simple things. Yeah, it's, it's a it's a tough one. I think that there's positives and negatives to it I don't know, like, uh, there's, there should be. Like we had a conversation with the kids the other day too about like just finding work, right, you're just like, yeah, like do something, don't be say you're bored, all yeah, like we don't.
Speaker 1We don't do like we do it a lot, we do an allowance kind of. We just do a weekly like I basically put their age amount in their bank account every week. Yeah, so they're my daughter's 14, so 14 a week goes into her bank account.
Speaker 1She doesn't ever spend it, but that's where it goes and it's just like it's just a way to kind of build up that money there, uh, but the idea we had I mean we did something similar when they were young um, I don't know, man, do you ever find that they so that's the thing.
Speaker 3Do you ever find that they didn't want to like if the money wasn't there when that allowance changed to another plan or another kind of type thing where they're like, no, I don't want to do this, I'm not getting money for it, like we're actually concerned about that yeah, it'll fall, it'll fall off, it will. Yeah, that's what we're concerned about.
Speaker 1But I mean, that's kids. I was going to fall off. I mean you just have to my four-year-old's jacked.
Speaker 3He's like a dollar a week. I'm so rich. I'm like, well, you got to do all the stuff first, buddy.
Speaker 1Yeah, I don't know. I don't want to tell you Like there or some like in education, about money that was the other thing.
Speaker 3My wife said 20, so they should take a portion of that money and no matter what it is, they put that away and then that starts that savings immediately and it's gonna be minimal participating into their own bank.
Speaker 2What do you think? What?
Speaker 3are you gonna do?
Speaker 2when I'm gonna teach my kid how to hunt okay because. And so here's why is? Uh, I think that, first off, I have no idea how to raise a kid, so obviously, actually, we don't either so it's all good, okay? Well, you got more than I do. Um, like, hunting is really tough and I think seeing the fruits of your, of your struggle in in that way would be really beneficial for a kid. I'm really jacked to teach my daughter how to hunt yeah, fired.
Speaker 3It is so much fun to go shooting with your kids.
Speaker 2Yeah, so I don't know, but I, I just think like I don't know, man, I, I, yeah, I don't know. I don't know how you motivate a kid Homeschool, yeah.
Speaker 1Homeschool read. You're gonna know this for sure, but like kids are just motivated differently by different things and uh, the actually tony told me what I, so there's that book, the five love languages, which I think is great for any relationships to read for sure. It actually helps a lot. You're a big touch guy, I'm a touch guy um but the there's actually one for kids as well.
Speaker 1There's a version for kids. The five cameras call like five love languages for children or something. And uh, tony actually said he it opened his eyes a lot to the how his, each of his kids receives a different love, differently, and so they respond differently to things. So it gets frustrating as a parent to be like, hey, like I told you that, and why are you doing it? And you're not, like what is the thing? What is the disconnect? And the disconnect becomes well, they're different people and they literally respond to everything differently. How you interact with them should be different, and it's hard as a parent to do that right, because you just think, well, it worked for them, why isn't that going to work for them? I haven't read that book I really should, but he swore by it. He said it was very, very good and it opened his eyes to why maybe he wasn't getting through to one of his kids versus the other one.
Speaker 1He was yeah, because, like, obviously, you want to raise your kids to be resilient yeah um objective thinkers that are not afraid to do hard things not afraid to do hard things, not afraid to speak their mind, not afraid to stand up for what's right, not afraid to like be the one that says, uh, we're not doing that because that's stupid like yeah, and, and I struggle with that, like some kids are.
Speaker 1I mean, kids are kids, right, but simple things of like I find that kids are right now are very, very uh. So I mean all kids are like focused on their self, like internally a lot, but I find they're just. The lack of respect for people around them is so much more now than it ever has been Like. I've been to a lot of basketball tournaments recently with all these kids and something simple as my daughter's team finished and they go do a little team meeting after right, they literally sat in the middle of a hallway that led to the locker rooms at university.
Speaker 1Like just set, like, like blocked the whole thing, and it pissed me off and I was like, like girls, girls like this move like this makes no sense like why would you like? It's just literally thinking about nothing but themselves and I. I, it's true, I struggle with it because, their brains.
Speaker 1I I 100, so it's like part of it's like I know that that's a normal thing, but then but part of it's like it's it's so indicative of like a generation that that's just how they are like, more so than they've ever been, I think personally, and I swear some of that has got to be because of the externalization of their like, like, the amount they consume social media. Yeah, the externalization of their, of their stimuli we as a society have told them that they met they, your opinion and you you matter special you're special and you matter so much.
Speaker 1God, your feelings matter yeah and I'm not saying they don't, but not to the not, but they don't matter that much. Completely right to the extent of like there are some things like hey, you used to say yes or no so to people you didn't know. You used to like have respect for adults, yeah, and not like talk back to an adult. Now those kids will tell adults to f off and have no problem with it, and you're like that's, it's it's again. As adults. You're like you're in a weird position because you're like I want to punch you in the face. I can't because you're a teenager, because I would destroy you well, and it's just like, and and I'm going to go to jail.
Speaker 1It's a lose-lose here, but how?
Speaker 2do you? It's a weird position to be in. How do you fight back against the epidemic of weak parents raising weak children?
Speaker 1I have no idea. I have no idea.
Speaker 3You just concentrate on your own. That's literally all you can do at this point.
Speaker 1But I agree, I think that there is a huge, a huge desire and need, because I know where I know. If we're thinking these things and we're, and we're talking about this, there is a uh, probably a large amount of people that feel the same way, especially in our area. We live and like a school, like a private school.
Speaker 2Oh, it'd be brilliant that promoted, it would be big. Yeah, people, people are. I certainly get the feeling people are craving that, that outlet are we starting a school?
Speaker 3not yet, okay, oh, we should like.
Speaker 2Yeah I don't know, I just we need to win the lottery first, but it comes back to right, like this whole thing we started with, is, if you just accept it and do nothing about it, nothing will change right? You have to do something about it yeah, I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1Like and like and I I'm with you I'm with you, jason, like there's we can't overthrow the government.
Speaker 2Yeah, there's some topics.
Speaker 1Yeah, like there's some things like this that are so overwhelming you're right though they're so overwhelming because it's like it's just like a drop in the bucket, like what am I going to do to fix this? And I agree, agree, you start with the you know things close to you. But I think the ultimate thing is at some point it's like okay, you know what, screw it. Yeah, let's figure this out. We're going to make a school.
Speaker 1We're going to no, we're pulling our kids out be at school because I'm not letting them be taught that garbage or whatever the thing is.
Speaker 2Well, I know how you can do that. Could you tell me, please? You can buy a t-shirt.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, we're making t-shirts everyone. We will be making t-shirts Legit. It's happening yeah it's happening. My cousin Michael. You will be getting a free one, because we promised you that way back in the day, because you named this podcast?
Speaker 2Because average is the enemy. So I so okay so we've given away one t-shirt already. Probably give away a few more.
Speaker 3Oh, on the social medias.
Speaker 2On the social medias, which I am not doing a good job of.
Speaker 3I know that's a job in itself.
Speaker 2I don't have time. No, okay well that's, I don't have time. Okay, wow, I don't have desire.
Speaker 1We need that on our shirt. I don't have time. I don't have time, I'm busy, I'm busy.
Speaker 2I've been busy. Yeah, you can support this podcast by buying a t-shirt. We have some lofty goals.
Speaker 1This might be a way that we can start to realize those goals. The t-shirts that we will be getting they are very comfy because we have a sample of them from nursing home people that made t-shirts and the support dog.
Speaker 2People at the nursing home made some too, and they're very comfortable.
Speaker 1So that's the same kind we're getting because we liked the material. So that'll happen. We'll let you know when that's out. It'll be on our Instagram Also. You can go to our Instagram and check our bio. There's a link to support the show. If you support the show, it helps us pay for the cost of the E-Money and the school we're building.
Speaker 3I'll also be finishing my crochet projects. We'll put them up there for sale.
Speaker 2So we are curating a list of people that we want around in the event of a collapse of society. We don't need to suck makers because we have Jason.
Speaker 3Do you have a zombie list? I got a zombie list, do you have a zombie list.
Speaker 2Well, I used to have it.
Speaker 3I haven't updated it in a long time actually.
Speaker 1A zombie list.
Speaker 3Yeah, like if it goes down, who am I? Was it mucking? Is that what you said?
Speaker 2Wow, are you mucking a person?
Speaker 3No, zombies would be mucking people, but who am I grabbing? Who's the group that I'm going to survive with?
Speaker 2Who's my oh, all of our dudes who's?
Speaker 3my.
Speaker 1Yeah, exactly 100%. Who's my Rick Grimes and company? We need to create a fallout shelter. Yeah well, we will.
Speaker 2No, we need to go to a mountainside with a nice running creek of fresh water and some wild animals that we can hunt, and they will drop my camper in there. Yeah, yeah, it'll support. Sometimes I lay in bed and think about like an apocalypse and like yeah.
Speaker 3Have you thought about and this is a big rabbit hole, maybe for next have you thought of how easily it would be just for the world to fall apart?
Speaker 2Yes.
Speaker 1Isn't it crazy, like so easy.
Speaker 2Like so easy.
Speaker 3It's kind of happening before our eyes. It's kind of happening before our eyes. It's kind of scary like immediately fall apart within a couple days is what I mean, so remember internet off.
Speaker 2Yeah, done you remember the pandemic when they fucked with the truckers?
Speaker 3no, was that here?
Speaker 2yes, like the supply chains, like, if you remember getting flour.
Speaker 3Remember when we couldn't get flour? Or yeast.
Speaker 2If, if the supply chains for food fell apart. I give society like two weeks till shit gets real wild.
Speaker 3It's gonna get wild. Yep, anyway, I didn't want to go to. I just I was thinking about it the other day and then actually the same way, you were like how easy of a tipping point it is, just for just everything.
Speaker 1Just a first word. We're just. We're living on the edge of a precipice like this this morning.
Speaker 2Well, the precipice is the edge. We're not living on the edge of an edge. That's a good point.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's a great point. That's a good point. We're living on the yes, we're living on a precipice. This morning, for some reason, our power was out. Okay, but how are you going to call your friends? If it never comes back on Well no, you'd have a little Well short wave radios too.
Speaker 3That's one thing I'm going to buy.
Speaker 2I have. Yeah, we need a rendezvous point. We do we do.
Speaker 3Let's not say that on here?
Speaker 2Yeah, we can't say it on here.
Speaker 1You know, you stop the recording now so we can talk about it Well likely this, so this is our third attempt at recording a podcast this month this is our third attempt, so this technically could be episode 45, but instead it's 42 if it didn't record. I think we're done.
Speaker 2I don't know if this didn't record, the podcast is over but we still make the t-shirts. Yeah, we'll still sell t-shirts and then we'll, we'll probably try again, even if this didn't record thanks for listening.
Speaker 1We need to go because j Jason has a very urgent day to do.
Speaker 3We have to work on my double stitch. That's the problem. All right, my increase stitch is pretty good though.
Speaker 1You're such a weirdo.
Speaker 3It's fun. I like doing things.
Speaker 2Okay, bye.
Speaker 1Average is the enemy Average is the enemy Hoorah.
Speaker 2This better fucking record Put that in there. I don't know. This better fucking record Put that in there. I don't know. This is my number one.
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