The Average Superior Podcast
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The Average Superior Podcast
#49: Confidence, Choices, and Celebrating Small Wins
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00:00:05 - The Average Superior Podcast
00:11:26 - Generations, Memory and Learning
00:16:35 - Technology & Data Storage
00:20:23 - Self Talk
00:27:02 - Parenting and Emotional Vulnerability
00:31:37 - The Power of Adversity
00:34:24 - Perseverance
00:47:46 - Indulgence and Hypocrisy
00:59:19 - Consistency, Priorities and Growth
01:09:10 - Social Inspiration and Accountability
01:14:05 - The Impact of Choices
01:24:17 - Movies and Nostalgia
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Speaker 3I did show my wife Like a screenshot Pause screenshot of it and I'm like what's wrong with this? And she's like it's like the lighting, yeah, it's bad, it was bad. She said those, those circle lights, yeah, yeah, cause then it like Fills in everything.
Speaker 1Yeah, they're not good straight on.
Speaker 3Do you have an Olight for that?
Speaker 1Yeah, my wife has one for her work. Stopped meeting. Yeah, because then it like fills in everything. Yeah, they're not good straight on. Do you have an Olight for that?
Speaker 2Yeah, my wife has one for her work. Stop meetings, oh that makes sense.
Speaker 1How come we haven't seen one since? Because you made me feel self-conscious and then I wasn't able to make any more. I just had no creativity and Okay. No, actually I was waiting for my tripod and then I got that, and then I went on holidays and I just haven't had time have we started?
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Speaker 1Oh my god uh, we missed you last time yes we did have a fun, we did good. I think I feel like our conversation was nice and how many times did military industrial complex get mentioned?
Speaker 3zero times bullshit.
Speaker 1You haven't listened to it. No, you, you're losing your mic there, I'm fine. You don't look fine. No, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3Anyway, stayed on track.
Speaker 2No, never Good. It was a good podcast. We talked a lot about health and fitness. Yeah, we went down that rabbit hole, which we do from time to time.
Speaker 3How many cold plunge talks?
Speaker 2We did. I think we did talk about cold plunge.
Speaker 3And you have been.
Speaker 2I have, not today, not yesterday. I missed the gym. Today I noticed, yeah, I had a moment of weakness.
Speaker 3You're looking trimmer though.
Speaker 2Thank, you, I have, you do, I have lost a couple LBs.
Speaker 3Yeah, you do look trimmer. Thank you In a good way.
Speaker 2It's your neck and your face. The problem is, I lose it in my face first and my muffin top last.
Speaker 3I think that's normal right.
Speaker 1Probably.
Speaker 3You don't have fat, I do.
Speaker 1You should go Zempik your muffin fat.
Speaker 3Just inject it right in there, busta. Rhymes is on Zempik. He lost like 30 pounds in 30 days.
Speaker 2I couldn't tell you a single thing about Busta Rhymes. Really, he's a rapper.
Speaker 3I couldn't tell you a single thing about Busta Rhymes. Really, he's a rapper. I could tell you that I was a big fan.
Speaker 1He's also. I think he has dreads.
Speaker 3I celebrate his entire catwalk.
Speaker 2Is he friends with?
Speaker 1Exhibit. I don't know, but you remember Exhibit's car show, oh yeah.
Speaker 2That was the worst show ever.
Speaker 1Was it P what it was they made such crappy looking cars.
Speaker 2Well, they were the worst cars like anybody's. Like tokyo drift, yeah. But so 2024, you are, jason, who won a makeover of your 1989 chevy astro van 14 years ago.
Speaker 1That car is now sitting in your driveway and you are so embarrassed but I wouldn't be, though you would be, because it's like it's like some of these whole makeover shows where, if you like, they come in and that you're gonna leave and they're gonna surprise you. But if you're an idiot and you accidentally mention one thing that you like, you liked one time, you're like yeah, you know what? Actually, I really like skittles. I just I don't know what it is. I love the taste of them and they're like, ah, I know what we'll.
Speaker 2We're going to make them a floor made out of Skittles.
Speaker 1The whole upper story of the house is going to look like Skittles, and that's what Get my Ride used to do. They'd take one thing and they'd be like, oh, this guy likes video games. And then there was like 17 screens in the vehicle with controllers.
Speaker 3That they'll never use it, but it'd be like today that they'll never use.
Speaker 2It'd be like an Xbox One with like a 19 inch tube television screen in there.
Speaker 3I would like a where are they now pit my ride kind of version.
Speaker 1Hey, that would be good. Or like, how long did those cars last before they got smashed?
Speaker 2Can we make that?
Speaker 3Where are they now? I wonder if there must be. There's everything on the internet.
Speaker 1That sounds like an awesome idea.
Speaker 2I want to say exhibit was west coast, obviously but I believe buster rhymes was an east coast rapper, so I don't think they were friends.
Speaker 3Yeah, they do have a. Where are they now pimp my ride?
Speaker 1season six yes what is it on netflix?
Speaker 3well see, this is the thing. My wife and I are kidless this weekend we were wondering what, what we're going to do Crochet.
Speaker 1I think we just found out. No, I think we just found out.
Speaker 3Pimp my Ride, season 6.
Speaker 1Are you going to do paint stained?
Speaker 3glass windows. No, we're trying to figure it out. We're trying to figure it out. We're going to go to the Quiet Place movie.
Speaker 1She's going to paint your toes and you're going to paint her toes, I would. Yeah, you'll look at each other while doing the New York Times daily crossword.
Speaker 3No, we're not that smart.
Speaker 1Okay.
Speaker 2I feel like pottery is a hobby that you guys would both enjoy Only if you're behind her Go style.
Speaker 1With their like doing the hands, yeah, like teaching her how to golf.
Speaker 2Yeah, but in this case pottery. But you need the wheel.
Speaker 3The spinning.
Speaker 2That's how you make pottery. I don't think you can make pottery without.
Speaker 3No, I'm looking up how to buy that stuff because I think I have till tomorrow.
Speaker 2I don't want to ruin your dreams.
Speaker 1I don't think you should go buy some pottery stuff.
Speaker 2I don't think you're going to get pottery stuff by this weekend.
Speaker 3Two day shipping bro.
Speaker 1I don't think you should. Do you have a kiln? I feel like you should not waste your money.
Speaker 3No, you can get the package clay or whatever, so you don't need the kiln to, because you can get that self-hardening stuff that you just put out after you shape it and then it'll harden itself. I've looked into it a little bit. Obviously, 200 bucks party wheel, two-day delivery.
Speaker 1No, don't do it. Do it, do it right now.
Speaker 3You know what Thank you. Book your plane ticket.
Speaker 1You only live once, that's done hey, shocking news, breaking news, extra, extra. Read all about it.
Speaker 3I don't like the way that sounded. I was trying to do something weird.
Speaker 1Yeah, anyway, he has bought his ticket and he is officially going to Vegas, as long as we get him to the airport.
Speaker 3Congratulations.
Speaker 2Yeah you're just going to get me there, but I'm on the same flight as you exactly. So, hypothetically, if you abduct me, we should carpool.
Speaker 1Can we, yes, um?
Speaker 2yeah, I'm committed I'm very happy for you thank you, it's uh, it was a big step. I was really worried I wasn't gonna be able to make that step I would love to do it.
Speaker 1Sold out well, no, we got the oh the plane, the plane ticket yes, yeah I was actually really worried about that being the case.
Speaker 2However, as you will see, I am being reminded that I only have so many weeks to live.
Speaker 1Oh, you bought one of those. It's not filled in yet, bro.
Speaker 3What is it? A blank life calendar.
Speaker 1You have a lot of weeks there, unlimited weeks. Are you scared to fill it in to see how much left you have? It's about halfway.
Speaker 3Does all the boxes go to like the average lifespan of a male or something?
Speaker 2Is it 100 or what it goes to 90.? So 90 years, yes, and each week, each box, each line, each year excuse me, has 52 boxes.
Speaker 3God, I don't want to know how far you'd be filling it in.
Speaker 2I'm just shy of half.
Speaker 1But how are you going to fill that in so it doesn't look like shit? I'm going to put it on the ground. You're just going to like exit, or are you going to fill the whole?
Speaker 2box. I'm going to probably get somebody else to do it Okay.
Speaker 1Are they going to exit or fill the whole box? I think you fill the whole box, okay. Did it come with stickers?
Speaker 2No, this is the original the og calendar.
Speaker 1okay and you just gotta mark it. So, um, yeah, you need to do that, and then I'm going to, unfortunately, find out how far ahead I am. Buddy, we're almost, we're halfway, we're halfway.
Speaker 3Isn't that crazy? No, I'm not are we midlife?
Speaker 2yeah, well you're not halfway to 90. Yeah, but you're. No, we're not.
Speaker 3I'm not, we're not going to 90 are we?
Speaker 2yeah, we are.
Speaker 2Bro, I'm going to like 120 I figure like an 83, I would say I'm uh, I'm already on the juice, so I'm going to 110 you're looking good and just for the people listening and not watching, which is everyone a valid point um, this is a what would you call it weeks in your life calendar. So it shows you how many weeks you have lived and how many weeks you probably have remaining in your life calendar. So it shows you how many weeks you have lived and how many weeks you probably have remaining in your life if you live till 90.
Speaker 3If you live to 90, which the universal response that I've received is well, that's depressing well, here's the thing if you could know your death date, would you want to know a hundred percent? You would, yeah, not method, just like this day you will die yeah, a hundred percent you.
Speaker 1I'm a fence sitter I, I might have to think about that. I, I, my knee-jerk reaction is yes, but then I don't know, I'd have to play this out a little bit man, would you tell people yeah well, I don't think. I don't know if you would you, I think your kid.
Speaker 3I don't know if I would tell you, that's, you couldn't tell your kids. That's rough. Yeah, oh, this is going to get depressing.
Speaker 1But that's the whole purpose of the calendar Live in the moment. Yeah.
Speaker 2Everybody's been like well, that's really depressing, and I'm like it's depressing if you think about it that way.
Generational Perspectives on Memory and Learning
Speaker 1It's significantly less depressing if you use it as a reminder, yeah, to live in the moment and that life is short and fleeting completely. This, the whole memento mori idea. It's like it depends on how you view death, your how you perceive it, like is it, it's inevitable, so that it's like, like you said it's, it can either be depressing and like freak you out and make you anxious, or just is what it is and you try to make the most of what's happening in the moment. And that's that whole purpose of like that stoicism. Me memento mori idea. Remember death. Did you get rid of that app? I did, I did. I got sick of the fucking text.
Speaker 2Yeah, Do you? This isn't as bad as it sounds. I think about death a lot.
Speaker 3Not like In what way? Like what, yeah what way?
Speaker 2what, yeah, what? Wait, hold on um like yeah, like in the fact that it is going to happen and the absolute, like finality of it, um, and as it relates then, to like not fucking wasting your time yeah, it's.
Speaker 1I mean I think you could get sucked into that and think about it too much, but and then in the process actually waste your time. But like, yeah, it's interesting because, uh, I was, I was gone visiting family this weekend and uh, they're they were talking about, like my aunt and uncle. My aunt was talking about her parents and her dad who passed away and stuff. And then there's they.
Speaker 1Obviously people keep things right that there was important to them and now becomes important, like important to their parents now becomes important to them. And it's interesting because, like, I think, from like a generational perspective if, if you want to get depressed about it, yes, it's like the, the next generation, like your kids, uh, will obviously remember you and think about you and that kind of thing. But then even the next generation, like the, the grandkids, depending upon how how old they were when you died, they probably will have some sort of thoughts and memory about you, probably to a lesser extent, but that's it. Like the next generation, like your great grandkids, probably never knew you and they might have heard stories, but they won't have that emotional connection. So that remembering kind of is over.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2But, if you could go back and listen to your great-grandfather talk for hours on end on a podcast.
Speaker 3Oh, that's true, that is different, that's a good point, because I was going to say I wouldn't have that opportunity. But guess what grandkids?
Speaker 1Yeah, we're doing this now, great, great grandkids, true, but the question is, would they? And then this is like I know us at our age. Now we would, but until a certain point in time. Again, it's just I don't know.
Speaker 1I mean, it depends on a lot of things, but I don't think that you would have the patience, or even the the, you wouldn't want the desire to do that until you're like probably 30s, 40s and you're like 100, right, and you're like oh I, you know, I like I just wish I could hear what they had to say or what they thought of, how they thought about things, or what the world was like back then, or how they experienced, like, think about like the shit they went through, world war, what one world war two, uh, like the great depression be wild insane.
Speaker 3Almost more depressing than that. Put yourself in your grandpa like, yeah, sorry, is your grandpa still alive? No, all my grandparents did put yourself in, and my grandparents too, but put yourselves in your grandparents shoes. I remember my grandpa because he died when I was like in the like 11, 12, 10. Thanks to him trying to tell you about life and things like that to a 10 year old. He's like I know this knowledge is good and you're gonna want this and the 10 year old not giving a shit.
Speaker 1Hey, where's the kool-aid exactly. Hey, where's the candy?
Speaker 3and I look back on that now and I feel like a piece of garbage.
Speaker 1Right, I was looking for kool-aid, not, you know 100, but that's just we all did, because that's just the, it's just humans, man, and it's like I mean, what is the? There's some sort of saying about like youth is wasted on the young or something like that.
Speaker 1That's, that's totally and it's because it's, it's, it's true in a way in the, in the sense that, like, if you had the kind of mind that we have now, when you're younger, obviously you could potentially get that, those nuggets from your people who've experienced it, and they would sit I yeah, nuggets from your people who've experienced it, and they would sit, yeah, hopefully, and you wouldn't have to like it's a whole thing.
Speaker 1Like I was talking to my, I said we were talking again on this weekend. We were talking about just just chatting almost all weekend, which was fun, and uh, they were talking about the kind of stupid things they did when they were teenagers. And my 14 year olds that are listening to all these things, of course, and uh, so, uh, at one point she was always asking all my, my cousins who are now in their thirties, but they're like, oh, what'd you do when you were in high school? And I was like, hey, guys, we don't need to tell her all of the stories.
Speaker 1I'm like and like, but I said at the same time, I was like you, I was like you don't need to make the same mistakes they did, because guess what, you can learn from something. Someone else's mistakes Like cause mistakes, like, because they're like, oh well, you'll make your own mistakes. I'm like, yeah, but you don't need to, just so you know. Like, sure you, probably you're going to make mistakes, you're going to do stupid things, but you also don't have to because you can say, hey, I remember the story they told me, uh, when they got drunk in grade eight and they puked all night and they felt like crap. Okay, now we know that that's probably what will happen if you do it they'll just make their own new and creative mistakes.
Speaker 2Yeah maybe.
Speaker 1Anyway, it's just interesting because, like it's that uh ability to learn from other people's mistakes is, I mean, even as a young kid, it's just, it's over your head because you're just like well, that's not gonna happen to me, I'm gonna try it and see if I'll do something better and like the well, I know better completely you're two, two generations away from being forgotten about.
Speaker 1Yeah, you are holy cow, that's and I mean, okay, you were and you potentially still are, depending on how this digital age works out, or if an emp blows all this stuff up and then it's not around anyway.
Speaker 1uh, actually funny thing. Uh, the the car I got has uh radio and, no, no connections to phones, because it's an older car, and so I I literally threw out all of my CDs, like half a year ago, of course, and I need a CD. I'm going to have to go buy a CD so I can listen to it. Where the hell do you buy a CD? They just got Sunrise Records, I think, around.
Speaker 3Columbia House is still probably kicking. Get your subscription. Selection of the month.
Speaker 1So I got to go find one or two CDs that I can play in the car. Oh my God. Anyway, you can do like a Bluetooth thing, can't you? You probably can Like a cigarette lighter.
Speaker 2Just replace the deck, you could just go and use, you could, yeah, the more expensive option, neither here nor there, install like a deck, like you had in high school.
Speaker 1Yeah, like one you have to remove it and take it with you.
Speaker 3I'd like to keep going on this death thing, though. Sorry to sidetrack, no, no, that's my point.
Speaker 1It's like, yeah sure, maybe because of our technology we'll be around longer or remembered longer if this form of technology stays around, or it could be like a CD player or a cassette, where you don't even have the ability to listen to it anymore because we don't have those like who has a cassette player anymore?
Speaker 2True, I think audiophiles just more true, I think audio files, just data is a bit different. Now. It is yeah, um, yeah, like if we have like an emp, we're all fucked anyways. Uh, it'd be kind of cool right. I don't know, like, do people archive podcasts already, or? I'm assuming, I'm assuming they do because it's worth storing, I think oh yeah, this isn't but podcasts.
Speaker 3Podcasts are yeah.
Speaker 2Delete this really fast.
Speaker 1I don't know Like I back up hours on a hard drive. But again we're in the same issue where, if that something goes gets fried, you're screwed right, or in like 40 years.
Speaker 2Some kid's going through that hard drive and they're like what the well, maybe not delete. This is a record of my thoughts.
Speaker 1And I think it would be. It'll be interesting to those who have like a direct link to you. Anyone else obviously won't care, because the amount of podcasts and data out there is just already insane and it just is exponentially growing. So I think like it'll only really matter just like a family photo to your parents or whatever only really matters to those people who are in it.
Speaker 2Not to nerd out, but at what point do we have a data storage problem as people, because we create so much data on the daily?
Speaker 3Never, I don't think so. There's enough clouds out there.
Speaker 1Lots of clouds.
Speaker 3There's always more in the sky.
Speaker 1But it's also like our ability to store. It is changing, like, how much data we can store, like these To store. It is changing how much data we can store these cards that we have. You can get 256 gigabytes on this tiny little card.
Speaker 2Which none of us can fathom. How much that is or is not? No, exactly.
Speaker 1But there's talks of being able to store data on a quantum computer stuff, right when it's, on the size of a cell.
Speaker 3The next kind of evolution of cell phones, though, is nothing is ever stored on the phone.
Speaker 2They're like the Chromebooks. Well, I think that's already like our phones, isn't it?
Speaker 3It's pretty much there and it's going to get more and more less on the phone and more in the cloud right.
Speaker 2Because my phone most of my photos. I have photos from three or four phones ago still on this phone in air quotes because it's stored in the ubiquitous cloud.
Speaker 3So one thing I did and then this conversation makes me want to go back to it's a failed thing that I did is when my kids were born. I started them an email address, like a hotmail address, like so and so, dot my last name at hotmailcom. And then every year I'm like, okay, every year I'm going to send them an email and then I'm going to give them the login credentials on their 18th birthday. And so I got like three years in to each kid and I've just stopped and I realized I've missed like five years that's a cool idea.
Speaker 1Definitely hard to maintain, I think, or to keep up with it.
Speaker 3Well, one one once a year.
Speaker 1Emails like yeah but it's just, I mean you yeah you just said it.
Speaker 3I'm gonna send him an email tonight.
Building Confidence Through Positive Self-Talk
Speaker 2I gotta get back on that train there's so many things we gotta get back on doing yeah, there's too many, too many things thing right.
Speaker 3This is the podcast of too many things no, but here's the thing this conversation started from your, your unfilled out life calendar, and now I'm going to make a life change.
Speaker 2So thank you do you guys you want to like mark down where you are on this calendar?
Speaker 1no, I don't want to know.
Speaker 2Yeah, once you, once you get it, it'll be easier for me to count out how much further ahead I am, and then I'll and the hopes is like it becomes something that I look at and utilize, because I've been thinking about a lot is like oh, life is really super short, so like time to do something do you become complacent after a while?
Speaker 2you look at it, you look at it, you look at it sticky note on your fridge and after three weeks your brain just legitimately removes it from your cognition yeah right, it's like it's part of it's part of it.
Speaker 3It's just there. Right, it's like you need like a sticky note that moves around it's like like a like an app that will send you text messages.
Speaker 2No, because even that you're just like like yeah, for like weeks we'd get this text and be like hey, remember, you're gonna die someday.
Speaker 1And then I would just annoy people at work, being like hey, you're gonna die someday, maybe like shut up, and then eventually I'm like I'm sick of these fucking messages, like I'm busy, stop interrupting my podcast I, I don't know how that works, because the idea of having things around you to motivate you, like, uh, people with their vision boards and that kind of thing, the the idea is that it's, it's there and sure I think that we subconsciously are consciously we ignore it at a certain point. But I don't know if subconsciously it's it's there and sure I think that we subconsciously or consciously we ignore it at a certain point, but I don't know if subconsciously it's still doing something like the idea of. Did I talk about this last time? I I'm mixing up when I talk to like people all weekend versus the podcast. Did I talk about that because I was thinking a lot about again like self-talk, positive talk, especially for kids and the pictures.
Speaker 1Yeah, so I you didn't listen, so just short, short, quick summary. I was thinking a lot about like how do you enforce positive self-talk to your kids and uh, I was, I was liking the idea of having getting pictures made just simple, like, uh, almost like the old motivational photos of, like the cat hanging on, yeah, but basically all it would say is let's say like like I am strong, I am smart, like things like that and and just like, like things like that in their room anyway.
Speaker 1Yes, I, I think that would be the same thing, where at a certain point, they don't read it anymore. Necessarily, it's not like they consciously walk past it and read it anymore, but I think there's like a subconscious part to that as well, where, because it's so prominent in their environment that it just becomes a thing that they don't even know, that they're even thinking or noticing anymore. I don't know if that's true, but that's just kind of my thought I agree with that.
Speaker 3Today we had I had a parenting fail today. That comes back to that so I spent about 45 minutes. We were leaving our campground today and there's a playground there with a bar and you know, when your kids used to grab on the bar and you'd lean back and you'd do like a backflip kind of thing and you'd put your feet back or whatever. So both my boys can do it. I'm like, okay, sure, let's do it. And she's like, okay, come help me. And so I go there and she kept on saying I can't, I can't do it. She'd get up on the bar. I can't do it, I can't do it, I can't do it. And literally it's one of those things you know, you push them down the slide.
Speaker 3I essentially did that, but I pushed her kind of backwards and she she did it after 45 minutes of literally 45 minutes of her attempting right her crying, her having a five-minute break with me as a self-talk thing, going back, and she never did it. She did it last time when I pushed her, but then she's like, well, I didn't do it, you did it. And she kept on saying I can't and I'm like I don't know what's going on with her confidence and she yeah you know she's seven, so but I feel like there's ways to motivate her, because with the boys it's easy.
Speaker 3The boys want to do it because oh, older brother did it, now I can do it right. I kind of think she doesn't have that and I don't know if this would be something to try with her, because the majority of the reasons she couldn't was because of the what she was saying out loud and her self-talk I know you haven't listened to it yet, so I will encourage you again I'm probably gonna listen to that book that I keep talking, oh yeah yeah, the how to talk to yourself, because it again it talks.
Speaker 1It just tells you ways and strategies to do with like yourself and with your kids, and the the thing is with with it, even if you don't believe it at the time that you're saying it to yourself or your kid, even if your kids don't believe it at the time that you're saying it to them, if you say it enough times, at some point they it's like I think something changes where they don't.
Speaker 1They don't doubt it as much they just believe it or there'll just be a one day, there'll just be a time when they are saying it to themselves and they're like don't even know why, and or they're subconsciously it's happening and they don't really know why, and that that's what. That's, what kind of was like blew my mind a little bit about it, because it's like these things that we, we say, like the internal dialogue that we have that we talked about with Hattie, we talked about people, about it, the internal dialogue that we we really need to pay attention to and determine, like what was that? Is it positive, is it negative? How is it affecting you?
Speaker 1And when you start actually listening to your internal dialogue not really judging necessarily how you're, what you're saying to yourself or how you're saying it, but just like observing it, kind of like from like a buddhist idea, like just observing your thoughts and without any judgment on them, and then kind of getting to the bottom of those and saying, okay, oh, okay, wow, I'm really negative in this aspect and then how do I move forward from that or how do I change that thought process? But it's a lot. I mean, it takes work, it's a lot, it's like a, it's like an internal work and it's not easy the.
Speaker 3Uh, this is funny. A couple days ago I stumbled upon this the japanese have a park, or sorry, japanese j. Japan has a park and the whole goal of the park. Did you say the Japs?
Speaker 2No the Japanese, the Japs, have a park. That's what I heard.
Speaker 3No, I didn't shorten it. Get out of here with that.
Speaker 2Play it back Play it back.
Speaker 3Japan has this park and it's a park where you take your kids on a walk and the park is you walk with your kid and then, as an adult, you just cross and pass through these ropes really easily and you do not turn around and help your kid. Oh yeah, and so then then your little boy or little girl has to figure out their own way and you just stand there facing the other way or turning back to them saying come on and make and force them to kind of do that by themselves and it's like an independence building park yeah and I'm like this is so, I'm gonna go home and I'm gonna tie ropes around my entire house booby trap the house.
Parenting, Sacrifice, and Emotional Vulnerability
Speaker 2It's such a cool idea leaving clay pots everywhere for your kids bear traps I like it though do you like it's?
Speaker 1It's a great thing, those videos, those videos always just get me Like they just.
Speaker 3I got choked up watching that. But does it fire you up? Yeah, like in a good way. I just was like love it.
Speaker 1I was just like that is amazing. Like you see this, like he's like grabbing one and looking at like what is going on, it's hilarious. And then eventually he gets to it and you're like, yes, right it's so weird, man.
Speaker 3It's a weird thing up. I love stuff like that. I noticed a lot of those little parenting things like that. They're most of like the parks and some of the activities.
Speaker 1They always come from japan too yeah, so they have a really good yeah, south korea yeah, the other one. They have a really good mentality about that stuff though, cj, have you found, has there been a change in your emotional state as a father? Oh, dude.
Speaker 3You crying lots.
Speaker 1I am so soft yes.
Speaker 2Good yeah, I don't know. It's been a weird year for me. I've undergone a lot of changes in this last year.
Speaker 2Yeah, a lot I would say one big one, yeah, no. But it's just had very reverberating effects through my life. I had a realization I think we talked about this at a podcast a while ago um, I realized that, um, how do I phrase this? So I was thinking like, hey, like, like we, none of us want to die again, I don't just think about death, none of us want to die.
Speaker 2However, uh, I was thinking about my kid and I was like, oh, yeah, I would die and feel like I obviously don't want to die, but I'd have no problem like trading my life right, like it's like, oh, like, step in front of your kid, just like. And I was just like I have never felt that before, right, and maybe by virtue of, like some of the professional things we do, it's like, yeah, I get it right, like I understand the, the, the nature of that sacrifice. But I was like just the wrapping my head around, being like, oh, yeah, no, that would be something I could make a decision in a split second without thinking about right um, that was a new one for me, because I've never really felt that before.
Speaker 2I get it, now, like I get it, like for parents, I'm like, oh, that's like a totally different, like the level of violence that I think somebody could muster that way with it okay, oh, 100 for sure, right um, it's like, it's like Hugh Jackman in Prisoners.
Speaker 3I don't think I've ever seen that Dude man watch movies. Oh my God, Just watch movies, you need to Like that movie.
Speaker 1you will get choked up. Basically, hugh Jackman's daughter goes missing.
Speaker 3How old is the daughter? Is she like super young, does he?
Speaker 2have a particular set of skills. Dude, no, no, he goes on a ramp.
Speaker 1It is awesome. It is a great movie.
Speaker 2Why do people like movies where people just fuck things up, but he's just like a normal dad, he's not like an ex-CIA, nothing like that.
Speaker 3No, he's just a normal dad trying to figure this out, maybe something like that. I like that. Yeah, oh yeah, and he just uses everything he can you need to watch it. Jake. It is like one of the most intense movies.
Speaker 1The bad guy is super creepy, whoever that actor is.
Speaker 3He played like the scarecrow or something Like 10 years, what year, mr Google guy? Oh yeah, what's it called Prisoners.
Speaker 1I think Prisoners.
Speaker 3So good and I bet it's like a two and a half hour movie. I just saw a clip of it the other day on Dead, on the money Two and a half hours of just.
Speaker 1You have to watch it. It's amazing.
Speaker 3But then I never really, because you cry in movies a lot, oh my God, but I never. I always do now, but I never did before. I had kids and now the movies really like the Road, the, Room.
Speaker 1Oh yeah. Those movies bother the shit. It's like everything, everything.
Speaker 2I don't think I still don't cry. I don't watch enough movies to cry.
Speaker 1Do you want to know my? I didn't cry because I left the room, because I knew it was going to be a mess if I just stayed in the room. My wife was watching the Celine Dion documentary. What I'm dead serious.
Speaker 3Is there a new documentary?
Speaker 1Yeah, it's a new documentary. She was watching it. I couldn't do it. I was like I'm out. It's just too sad.
Speaker 3Are you a fan of her stuff?
Speaker 1Oh, she's an amazing singer but like, just like. Her story is just so sad how messed up she is now with this disease she has. Love again oh yeah, she's like she's got a stiff person syndrome. It's called what it's likeely rare, Like 1% of the population.
Speaker 2I have that every morning.
Speaker 3No, what is it Stiff person?
Speaker 2syndrome yeah.
Speaker 1I think it's stiff person syndrome. It's basically like her body like goes into, like a seizure almost, and like she can't move any of her joints.
Speaker 3That'd be really awkward and like it's messed up her vocal cords.
Finding Positivity in Adversity
Speaker 1Well, she can't sing anymore, like she's completely messed up. Anyway, point being, I'm a giant baby and I was a mess trying to watch that and I had to leave.
Speaker 3I couldn't watch it they're gonna make, and I wasn't a big fan of him. He's a good actor. But Michael J Fox, they're gonna make a movie. Oh, his books are good. So he just went on the Coldplay.
Speaker 3He was at a Coldplay concert and they brought him out on stage in a wheelchair and played like some guitar, I playing that, and then they wheel them off and I saw that the day would have been like the friday and then the saturday. The kids wanted to watch, like despicable me. And it had previews at the start and one of them was for back to the future and it showed him on stage playing the guitar and moving and I'm like holy shit yeah, I told my wife this is sad and she's like she's like if they ever make a documentary. She's like I'm gonna ball my oh, it's gonna be so good.
Speaker 1Uh, his, he's got two or three, maybe maybe four books.
Speaker 1I've she's she's read the books uh, they're so good, his positivity throughout, like going through that like is just, I don't know how you think you'd like to think as a person that you could find the positive in your life going through something like that I just don't know if I, I don't know, like I don't think until you're in it, if you actually know if you could do that as a human, and his ability to do that, and not only do it, but then like, just like, put that out into books and like say that you can, you can get through whatever you want to, or, and I don't know if, like, anyway, his, he's inspirational in that way, for sure I think there's a fork in the road there where you just you end up being like you could be a recluse, like you could just 100, lock yourself in your house and just do that, especially if you're broke yeah, and that's, and that's another thing too, for sure, that's probably a fact
Speaker 1and what do you have to do it for?
Speaker 3yeah, like my neighbor who's 40. Um, she got ms last year and she's doing she's not doing the best, but they're moving to like a like a one floor house and stuff like that and she's at the gym every day still and all that kind of stuff. And I asked her like how are you doing? She's like good, good, she's doing it for she's got one daughter, she's doing it for her daughter, doing it for her and just staying as much into it as she possibly can. It's so inspirational.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3But, then I thought about like that's the bigger husband, yeah, good people, yeah, really great people right, but they're just, they're very, they're very much like us where I think that we would all be fine and we would find the motivation to do?
Speaker 1I don't know, that's true, like I, I, like I said I, I'd like to think that that's true. I'd like to think so too, but that's I don't think. You know it until it happens and you, there's obviously got to be a hill, a hill to climb there to get over that self-pity and to a point where you can move forward.
Speaker 3I wouldn't do well actually think about if I get a cold. I am just a biggest puddler and lay in my bed just self-loathing yeah, that's all I am. So I would be, I would be the recluse, you come out.
Speaker 2That's the thing. Though you come out of it, I think there's a, there's a uh, a bottom and then a bounce.
Perspective Shifts and Perseverance Journeys
Speaker 1This reminds me of um, so I think we should take this on the podcast on the road. Uh, one stop I want to make is savannah, georgia. Okay, well, let's go. Okay, uh, my cousin's husband's cousin, okay, uh was, uh, he got hit with an ied in afghanistan. Uh, lost both his legs, one of his arms. So what happened was there was an ied in a wall, it, it went off. He, I think that it, he wasn't, I don't know how close it was, but basically what happened was the grenade on his hip was activated and it blew up. Oh, and so he like they thought he's gonna die for a long time he ends up, he lived, he, he survived, uh, and he's, you know, working, working on life right now, but he's, yeah, he lost three of his limbs, uh, and anyway, I was talking to my cousin's husband this weekend and he's like, oh, you would love this dude like you guys would have so much to talk about. He's just a good guy, um, and anyway, that would be an insane do you know what he was before?
Speaker 3was he pretty motivated? I kind of get, yeah, he was. Well, he was, yeah for sure, I think.
Speaker 1I think he was a fit dude in the military. I don't know, I don't know, I can't remember what division he was in. Uh, but just yeah, he just again. Just the thought of like again you have options.
Speaker 1I mean, some of the options are you just give up and you and you don't make it through or you make it through and you just you know you have a hard time with life and you don't really. And then, but Paul's like, this guy is just he's pushing through and he's trying to make the best of it.
Speaker 2And people give up for a lot less.
Speaker 3Oh completely, oh yeah.
Speaker 2Like. That's a pretty significant story of perseverance. Oh insane.
Speaker 1Insane, and I mean just something that you will never. I mean hopefully knock on wood that we'll never experience, but but I mean we're all going to have setbacks in life from something or other and then, uh, just remembering that you know but he cheated his life calendar right like I mean that circle.
Speaker 3A week on that I've been like this is where I was supposed to go, when I should have, I should have gone I wonder if that would give you a completely new perspective on everything what matters and what, what, what things you don't care about anymore, like things you used to get annoyed at you know what it's interesting I think about?
Speaker 1that is, uh, because I mean, at the nursing home we're surrounded by death quite a bit and negativity, yeah, and oh goodness but like sometimes, but like with the, with the, like the death side of it, you would feel like because of that we would have that same thing, like life's too short, like like I'm around it. I saw it, I did this thing, that we would have that just built into us.
Speaker 2But I don't think we do, oh completely I think no, no different than most other people I, I agree, other than it's. We've normalized it, yeah but I just mean like because you presume you should have a recognition of it, because you see it more right but, you just you wipe it out or you ignore it, or whatever, and like your.
Speaker 2Your life calendar should almost be built into your head, because you see yeah stuff like that so much which is part like for me it really has been. I don't know why I've been so fixated on it lately.
Speaker 3Um, in like a, in like you want to make the most of things. Yeah, yeah, a hundred percent yeah oh okay, not like.
Speaker 1Yeah, like in a positive way.
Speaker 2Yeah, totally I've just been like really like, oh, like life is super short, and I don't know if it's because I feel, uh, yeah, I don't know. I just feel like time is flying by. I'm like we're like holy shit. Um, yeah, I don't know I like this.
Speaker 3I like this new, uh, this new cj, this dad cj here yeah, I don't know, I'm a. No, we get to, no we get to watch you go through all these like little emotional checkpoints, as like that we went through well and even like I will be the first to say I was that.
Speaker 2I have been through phases in the last five years professionally, probably personally too, but yeah, definitely personally where I've been like the most negative person in the room and it is.
Speaker 3There's no arguments on this side of the table.
Speaker 2It is cumbersome, uh, and right now I I certainly would. I think, at least from my very narrow view. I'm not in that position right now, and so like there's some negative people that we are surrounded by professionally and it's just tiring.
Speaker 1It is, it is, and I think we all go through like I think everyone goes through phases of struggling with that.
Speaker 2Yep.
Speaker 1I don't know how.
Impact of Diet on Health
Speaker 2But it's interesting how that drains other people. Yeah, it's an energy drain, right, it just sucks the energy out of other people and that's the problem is, I've at some point I've been that energy vampire, energy vampire.
Speaker 1What's that show? Oh, in the Shadows. In the Shadows, something in in the shadows something in the shadows there's a. There's a show that's like kind of like a, really like a. It's a comedy, but it's like not really, it sounds terrible.
Speaker 3No, it's the office with vampires. Yeah, basically, yeah, it sounds terrible. What we do in the shadows? Yeah, what we do in the shadows, and the one the one vampire.
Speaker 1His thing is, he's an energy vampire oh, okay and he'll like, just like shit talking people on like twitter just to suck their energy.
Speaker 2Oh, it's hilarious, but it's so dry, it's yeah anyway yeah, and like I think we've all, to varying degrees, been that energy vampire I fucking totally have.
Speaker 3Yeah yeah, I have too I. I enjoy a little bit of energy vampire, though now again, like I enjoy just stirring the pot a little bit with some people just just to get that energy vampirism out, and that's a a downfall of mine, but it's just something I don't want to change.
Speaker 2Just pushing buttons.
Speaker 3Yeah, that's fun. That's fun sometimes For my own amusement I like to push, oh totally. My boss a little bit. I push his buttons a little bit just to get a little bit of, just to feed as the energy vampires would say Just to feed on his energy psychopath.
Speaker 2What is the average age for a male nowadays? 78? Well, it depends where you are in the world. For north america we're so fucked. I like the things that you can buy at the store right now and the marketing and the the chocolate covered m&ms. Oh well, that's the worst. You saw my there's protein. There's a my the picture of cereal that I put up yesterday on our social media yeah drives me banana sandwich.
Speaker 2The fact that we can, you can go get breakfast food in air quotes. That's literally dessert. Yeah, and it's just marketed to kids. Three for ten, three for ten, minecraft, fucking, fruit loops, whatever branding, blah, blah, blah and it's just shit. Uh, and to take this full circle, have you guys heard about the type 3 diabetes?
Speaker 3type three is this like cpp2, like they're just cool. They're just adding things, adding on. Are you serious?
Speaker 2don't get me started about cpp2, sorry I don't sorry you don't have to worry about that type three diabetes is also and this is, I think there's more of a hypothesis or some new connections being made but also known as alzheimer's yeah okay okay, I'm super confused no, so that basically they're linking diet to alzheimer's, which is fair, because your brain functions on glucose and Alzheimer's brains are, I think, unable to process glucose in the same way.
Speaker 1So are they suggesting that? Because obviously there's a genetic component to Alzheimer's as well?
Speaker 2I think it's listen to Max Lugavere. Okay, I think the genetic component is quite low. Early onset Alzheimer's's, I think, is genetic yeah, right whereas the later onset, older age, alzheimer's dementia diet is potentially. I'm not, I don't know like I'm. You heard it while I'm wearing a lab coat.
Speaker 1I am not a doctor. You, you heard it here first, it's diet, the end uh I. So I was worried about early onset alzheimer's, because my grandma had alzheimer's and yeah, she's the only one, but it's scary. It's just scary to watch happen right, and so I was worried about that. When I got my 23andme I did not have the uh gene to like suggest that I would potentially have early onset.
Speaker 2So yeah, and my, I have a family member that had early onset alzheimer's. Yeah, um, she's yeah, like it's been years and years and years that she's been dealing with it not, there's nobody there anymore, right, and it's super sad. Uh, there's just.
Speaker 1The person that I knew is no longer present yeah, they're in like a shell of a person that you knew, but yeah and it sucks and I but so, and that's the thing is.
Speaker 2I think there's a plausible link between diet and, specifically, sugar and alzheimer's.
Speaker 3There has to be a link between a lot of things in diet that we don't well, but it's not even that we don't because we do like.
Speaker 2I think we do generally have enough information to right, but like you said, so three for ten.
Speaker 1so you have three freaking cereal boxes for $10, which will last like a long time potentially Not in this house. Okay, Breakfast lunch and dinner. Well, let's just say, each box lasts a week.
Speaker 3Yeah, sure, so three weeks.
Speaker 1Three weeks. $10 versus 12 eggs, depending on if you get the cheap version or the free run range organic that are like $7, $8 a thing at the store right now. I know you have your own eggs, I get that, but I'm saying if you're paying for eggs at a store, it's not out of the realm of possibility to spend $8 for 12 eggs, which should last you four days, exactly. Yeah, so it's like the cost of eating healthy is sometimes out of the realm of possibility for people.
Speaker 2I just don't maybe, but if it was a priority. Right, I understand, like the convenience and the budgetary aspect of it. But if your health was that important to you, like hypothetically, you would prioritize your expenses towards that.
Speaker 1You pay for a gym membership and I don't know.
Speaker 2I don't think this conversation is aimed at the people in our circle, because generally the people in our circle, 80 to 80% of the time, make good enough decisions, right, and we would be hypocritical you know, throwing stones in the glass house If we were to say we're perfect. It's the person at Walmart that that sees that and is like, yeah, this is what I need, this is what my kids eat a lot of cereal, so yeah, it's not good.
Speaker 3No, it's full of sugar and I'm not yeah, my boy was rocking my four-year-old rocking a sunny d today on the way home from the camper yuck and he's like this is healthy. I'm like no. I almost stopped the van and had a family meeting on the side of the road, but media has told him it's healthy.
Speaker 2No, or you have, I did. Oh no, not a chance.
Speaker 3But this is the best part, because he's four. He's never seen those. Remember those Sunny D commercials when we were kids.
Speaker 1Like Sunny D, all right mom.
Speaker 3But he grabbed it and he saw orange.
Speaker 1And the package looks like it's orange juice.
Speaker 2And so.
Speaker 3Totally. And he just because they brand it that way.
Speaker 2But even the assumption that orange juice is healthy, processed orange juice in the morning, first thing in the morning, spiking your blood sugar, it's probably not great.
Speaker 1And not only not great, but I can't remember where I heard it but basically a lot of the problems especially boys have is because of that diet and they get that diet and they get ramped up and they can't sit still and they go to school and their teachers are losing their mind.
Speaker 3Why?
Speaker 1can't your kid sit still? Your kid has adhd. Let's get him diagnosed. Then they get diagnosed and they're on their own medication. They don't really need uh and just like spirals, and it could potentially starts with what are they eating in the morning? That's what we're.
Speaker 3We're going through like he's going to school next year and he is an aggressive kid and my wife's like well he doesn't. He listens outside the house, but he's very, he's very leaning towards that. If you were to say anything, it might be an adhd thing, but my wife's a little worried, but I'm like, no, like, if it gets to a point at school it's a problem. We completely reset his diet before we do anything else yeah and she's on board with that because of the folic acid.
Speaker 3And was it the red dyes and all that kind of stuff that are in your food? It was. Was that? What is this Gary Brekka was saying? When you feed your kid that in the morning and then you have him go out and make decisions immediately, he's going to have trouble making decisions because his body's inflamed, his brain's inflamed, and so that's kind of our next step. If he, he'd be pretty healthy. But they eat like kids because of convenience, right?
Speaker 2But is that also a Western diet thing? Because I think back to my childhood. Um, you know, for breakfast most days I have eggs, uh, avocado and something cheese and meat or something like that. Like it's generally the same thing every day, like when you were a kid no, right now.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, your parents giving you avocados so when I'm a kid, it's you know, it's like the breakfast of convenience or you don't really give a shit and it's no. I'm not faulting my parents or anybody in this, no, in this right, it's just your kid goes to school on a piece of toast with peanut butter and a fucking glass of orange juice yeah, I had rice krispies with the milk and then I had like two tablespoons of brown sugar for breakfast.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do the white sugar in the rice krispies and the brown sugar, yeah and then the worst part would be when mom made it before you got downstairs, so it gets too soggy.
Speaker 3And it's just the worst consistency. That's on you. That's on you for not making it downstairs. And it's like sugar water with disgusting. We had the special toast when I was growing up and it was brown sugar, oh, it's so good With some cinnamon. You had special toast, oh yeah.
Speaker 1Cinnamon and.
Speaker 3I only got it on special occasions. My kids say can't we have mom's special toast? The other day I'm like what's mom's special toast? They told me that's the special toast from when I was growing up.
Speaker 1Yeah, I would have some right now.
Speaker 3That's amazing that it was a consistent recipe. I would crush a loaf of bread with cinnamon and sugar. Do you ever go to your grandparents or your older people's houses when you were younger and like, okay, let's have snack, and it's just a bunch of toast?
Speaker 2with like different jams and that was like yeah, no that's a snack, no cookies tons of cookies cookies. Yeah, like the cookie platter with a different shortbread, cookies and stuff.
Speaker 3Like I'm talking like breakfast, at like grandpa's house was like here's some toast, here's some jams, deal with it with it.
Speaker 2That's all you have. Yeah, breakfast, yeah, I just, I don't know what you'd like. What do you do to fix this, because I think it's a huge problem. I think you can only obviously you can only control yourself.
The Hypocritical Relationship With Indulgence
Speaker 3100 and your family, right so?
Speaker 1I think uh, there was a study I saw, I did not read it so I didn't.
Speaker 2I can't say I did he saw that there was a study I read the.
Speaker 3I read the title of a study like one, one line into it or anything like that. I don't even remember Skimmed it, it might have been hold on.
Speaker 1It might have been the Instagram about the title of the study. He saw a picture of a study and the comments in the study. That's something about like they gave an egg a day to like school age kids over a period of time versus other kids who didn't have it, and the difference was just crazy between like their ability to think and their build like their uh, strength and their muscle, their growth and all this kind of stuff.
Speaker 2So it's got to be true, because I saw it on instagram. Sugar sugar is the sugar industrial complex. That's fine. You can say that, yeah, um, there is. There is no egg industrial complex, right? These things that are good for you generally aren't tied to to marketing and I don't know if it's like the dopamine associated with sugar and obviously the the like these corporations. They make money because sugar is addictive, because people are addicted to eating sugary foods because they're highly palatable, they're freaking enjoyable to eat. They trigger pleasure centers in your brain. I ate so much candy this weekend, dude, you're crushing candy right now and I'm just like I just want it, so bad well, it's on your.
Speaker 1I don't know why it's on your table, because it's tony yelled at me.
Speaker 2That's why he's sitting so far away do you see how his mic is extended like? He's like this is like back six foot social distancing from us I've had two junior mints this evening and I just I could eat that whole so could I and I might and feel nothing.
Speaker 3I think the sugar thing and the way my kids eat in the morning. This is not a shot at my wife because she handles all that in the morning because I'm at work. It's honestly also a convenience thing for the parents. You've got to get three kids to school, wake them up, all that kind of stuff. There are days when they just have cereal and they're out of the house. It's not a shot at her because she's crushing it, but like that might be a convenience thing because she's very conscious about stuff like that too.
Speaker 1It is a convenience thing, but I would argue that I don't think it is actually that much longer to fry three eggs than it would be to pour three bowls of cereal. I mean we're talking like in the scheme of things, you're talking maybe an extra two minutes.
Speaker 3I'll tell her that when I go, I'm just saying like I'm with you. I completely agree, I, but I think if we it's an excuse that we all use when really I don't think it's valid, yeah, it's like five minutes to get those eggs.
Speaker 2Like it's not, it's not much, it's weird. The excuses again, not an excuse, not my saying excuse, but it's the weird excuses. You know, the people we make ourselves or the people in our lives make it's like you know, I want to, uh, I want to lose weight, but well then, you don't and I'm guilty of this we all are. Yeah, this, we should just call this progress.
Speaker 3The hypocrites I like it that says, you're not bad yeah, the average superior hypocrites.
Speaker 2Yeah, the superior hypocrites, because we are superior hypocritical average people superior hypocrites but I I agree with you that we definitely are hypocritical in certain.
Speaker 1I mean I don't know, is it?
Speaker 3I don't know. I don't know if it's hypocritical if you say if is it hypocritical, I don't know if it is either no, because what my point is?
Speaker 1that again, like you said consistently, I am better than I'm not yes yeah.
Speaker 1So because of that, guess what Consistency over time equals results. So, consistently, I think that I make better decisions than I don't, especially say in the last couple of years. However you're, from time to time, you're going to you're not going to make the right decision for yourself, and probably intentionally. Like, for example, this weekend I did not eat well and I ate a bunch of candy, had some drinks, but like I intentionally did it, I was like I'm on with the family on holiday vacations. It is what it is, knowing that when I get back to work and back to routine, I'm going to go back to my routine.
Speaker 2Yeah, was your vacation better because of it, though?
Speaker 1that this is a great question you bring up, I I. I don't have an answer for you.
Speaker 1It was okay, so yes it was no, I don't know if it was, and so depends on what we're talking about. So specifically, let's talk about alcohol. So specifically the drinking I left that weekend thinking that I was almost ready to join the CJ train here and be like I don't drink anymore. And the reason being is, uh, I just I don't know what the purpose of it was for me that weekend, like I had maybe two or three nights in a row. I had maybe two drinks a night, maybe three on the one night, but like nothing, basically a glass of wine, maybe a cooler, whatever, right, I knew I wasn't going to get hammered or anything, so I wasn't going to drink a bunch. So afterwards, at the end of it the next morning, it's like why didn't I just have a bubbly? Really, because obviously we all know alcohol is terrible for you.
Speaker 1So I don't, I mean, from that perspective, I didn't need it. I wasn't doing it for the feeling of getting like impaired or intoxicated, because I wasn't even tipsy, like I didn't even have enough that I was like feeling it barely. So like the whole thing was like okay, okay, well, I had how many calories extra for those couple of drinks over the last, over three to four days. Uh, and the? What was the? For what reason? Did you enjoy the taste of it? Sure, but I love bubbly's too, and I love zev, zev zevias, and but that argument's a tough argument.
Speaker 2Did you enjoy the tea? I enjoy the taste of all the reasons in this bowl. Yeah, I'm not gonna do it because my goals are overrided by my. My enjoyment is overrided by my goals okay, you're not gonna.
Speaker 3Okay, would you have a reason?
Speaker 2no, I'm good I haven't had one of those since I put them out, okay, but and that's my whole thing, right is so like, did it add to your vacation? I don't know. Yes, no, maybe.
Speaker 3Um, I don't think enjoyment should be the lightning rod for whether or not, you do something no, I agree, I had a couple drinks in the weekend and I did it, um, because we're camping and I like to have a fire and I like to make a particular drink. It's a dirty dr pepper, it's amazing, and it's dr pepper zero, by the way, but anyway, I enjoy the taste. I enjoy the taste of the spice rum, and I really do. And I'm sitting there and I'm drinking. I'm like I am enjoying this.
Speaker 1I don't know right, but like, but that's completely fine. Like for you, that is 100 fine.
Speaker 1My point is for me there's nothing about the alcohol that I specifically enjoy that I couldn't that I couldn't get from like, yeah, something else something about a gatorade, like for that sake, like a g2, like like there's nothing that I'm having in the cooler or with the wine that I'm like I can't get somewhere else. You know like I'm not doing it for the enjoyment of the drink, I'm just it's so, it's a social drink, it's you know when, in rome, kind of thing. But in the end of it I was like why?
Speaker 3yeah, we've had this talk before. But the social what's the point of the social drink, like you know? I mean, what's the point of having that beer when you're out with friends? I think it's just connectivity.
Speaker 1I think for some reason we associate sitting around and all sharing a similar beverage as connecting.
Speaker 2Which we're doing right now. We're all drinking non-alcoholic drinks, completely, and so then let me point you to the candy. Did the candy add to your vacation? I love candy, I know, yeah, and that's the problem. It's the best thing ever I could. I could muck, uh, a table full of candy, right short answer.
Speaker 1Is probably short answer. Probably no, because I I felt like I felt gross because I ate so much oh, you went overboard oh, dude I destroyed the
Speaker 2candy I think that's different though right I should have taken a picture of the candy table.
Speaker 1It was lit. It was this table and it was full of jars of candy, like a charcuterie board, it was amazing.
Speaker 2But all it was. You were just getting a bunch of dopamine.
Speaker 1But the thing is that after we were done, we got home, all I wanted to eat was chicken and rice. I was like I want just a meal of chicken and rice and vegetables. I don't want to look at fast food. I don't want a pizza. I I don't want to look at fast food, I don't want a pizza. I don't want anything. I just want some clean food because I know it's going to make me feel better.
Speaker 3So what you described is a really good thing. You enjoyed yourself. You came back and you realized that yeah, I ate too much. Now I'm going to adjust my diet to counteract that I completely agree.
Speaker 1But the whole point is, looking back at it, I could have have done it without that and I wouldn't have changed my enjoyment of the whole experience of sitting around talking with my family having a good time. There's nothing like I. Obviously, if we order pizza, I'm still gonna have pizza, like again. Nothing's gonna change there but the over, going overboard and and doing having the things that I know I normally wouldn't have a whole bunch of uh, wasn't the thing that caused that?
Speaker 3had that made enjoyable weekend so I'm going to a movie tomorrow and I already know in my mind I'm gonna have layered butter, I'm gonna have a coke zero and a bag of those mini mars bars they get with the meal at the cineplex, or I'm gonna like I know I'm gonna do that.
Speaker 1What are you going to watch, by the way? Uh, quiet place.
Speaker 3Oh yeah, you said that and I think that it will add to the movie I feel like that's part of the experience.
Speaker 1I can't go to movies without getting popcorn. Oh, it's so hard.
Speaker 2I don't think I fault you for that, though, because if I picture the movie experience like you're there to get a whole bunch of dopamine it just adds to it right. I don't hate that at all.
Speaker 3If I picture my campfire experience with my wife sitting just talking where I like to have a drink in my hand, it's part of my experience. Yeah, I don't hate it, it's just, but it doesn't add to it. Like I see the point behind that, like it doesn't. I can have the same conversation with like we're not, do we have one drink?
Speaker 2we're not drunk, we're just sitting there talking, but the popcorn probably adds to your movie experience oh yeah, I don't think I can remember the last time I was at a movie. Yeah, because it's part of the experience. But I also think I don't even necessarily mean experience-based things, because when we go to Vegas, yeah, I'm probably going to give her for a day or two on some pizza or some cheese?
Speaker 3Yes, because you deserve it.
Speaker 2Well, it's not that I no. I actually think that's the wrong thing. I don't deserve it. I don't deserve anything. We do not deserve anything.
Speaker 3You deserve that. No, we don't, don't be dumb.
Speaker 2maybe we've earned it.
Speaker 3Okay, I don't think we deserve it. I don't know if there's a distinction to be made. Uh, yeah, the terminology could be a little different. Right, and just why do you earn, like, why you deserve it.
Speaker 2I have been consistent 97 of the time. So, like I have earned the I don't want to say the right because it sounds pretentious, but I've earned the right to have a couple days of like latitude, so you deserve, but but the person I'm competing with is myself.
Speaker 1That's the whole thing oh, my goodness, I don't love. I don't love that either, because I I think now you're associating uh, it's like a prize that you've just given yourself for living like could be consistent, but you need to impose hard restrictions on yourself right, but I'm thinking like instead of just, instead of like instead of like instead of like.
Speaker 1the idea of like earning the right or you deserve it. No, you're just choosing, you're just choosing to, you're choosing to do that for the next couple of days, like. I don't think there has to be like a, an earning or like a reward aspect to it. True.
Speaker 2But I'm talking to somebody in our friend group last week and they were saying to me that they want to achieve certain goals, but then immediately followed it up by providing excuses. Yeah, um and I. It's human nature, but why and I can't necessarily wrap my head around why that happens why do we do that to ourselves where we say, uh, I want to achieve a certain goal as it relates to my fitness or my health? However, there are these things that in my life that are compromising my ability to meet that goal, but I'm unwilling to address them.
Speaker 1It's because you're giving yourself an out. And because we're human.
Speaker 3No, but I think it's because we're it can't be perfect.
Speaker 1No, but it's because we're giving our. You're giving yourself that out so that when you fail, you're leaving yourself that window to fail, and it's not a good thing, we shouldn't be doing that. But if you do that, then there's less guilt or less. You don't feel as shitty about yourself because you're like see, I I told you like I, I wanted to do it, but I knew that this was going to be a problem and I don't agree.
Speaker 2I or, sorry, excuse me I do agree that we can't be perfect, but I almost wonder at the point in the like the continuum of decision making, where you load where the line is right, because it's all fine to say like you know, jason, like you're not perfect, it's okay, versus saying like, hey, this is the process you're you're adhering to, but on wednesday, when you went out for some, or thursday, or whatever day it was, when you went out for some popcorn and some some mars bars, you are afforded some grace yeah, right, I think there's a difference in those two things, I agree.
Speaker 3I think this conversation is different for us, though, because we we generally do things that are good for us yes, you know, consistency is yeah, we're not, we're not completely consistent 100 of the time but we not deserve earn whatever right. We do afford ourselves some consistent 100 of the time, but we not deserve earn whatever right. We do afford ourselves some latitude because of the restrictions we put in place in our normal life, but nobody can be consistent like I agree.
Speaker 1No, but nobody can be consistent. 100 of the time and if that's the bar you're setting for yourself. You're setting yourself up for failure, true, but you can.
Speaker 2What's like should you be striving for that? Because I am striving for that, I'm not, but there's like you can strive for it with the grace to understand that it's not going to be the case.
Speaker 1I don't think, I don't even know if it's something you should strive for, because I don't think it's possible, like you're going to. Because, again, I think if you strive for that and you're setting the bar up that I want to be consistent 100% of it's not going to happen. You're going to have a hard letdown which potentially starts that ball rolling where, okay, now I missed one day, now I missed two days, now I missed three. Well, I missed three, I might as well miss four, I missed four, I might as well miss five. And you start down that road because you're like, well, if I can't do it anyway, if I can't get that 100% of the time, there's no point in doing it.
Speaker 1Versus if you set up, like the goal of I plan to be as consistent as I possibly can be, but I will allow myself, you know, every once in a while, to go off the rails for a day or two or whatever. I think that's more realistic. It's like the whole idea of like the best guy is the one that you can follow. It's the exact same idea. The best diet is the one that you can follow it's the exact same idea, whereas if you set yourself up for failure from the beginning because it's not achievable, then you're just going to screw yourself. I think so again, just over the period of a year or however long. Again, it has to be long-term thinking. We can't be thinking today, tomorrow, a week, over the period of the next year.
Speaker 2If I remain consistent 90 of the time I'm going to see results totally, which is you still get 36 days to let it go, which is a lot of days right, and that 90s high, like we can go 80, you can go 70, I think you can go anything over 50.
Speaker 1I think, oh, you're getting like, you're like 50. 50 is not good, you're probably not gonna see much, you're trending in the right direction.
Speaker 1If you're anything over 50, though, for sure 100 so, if you can and obviously the higher you, the higher up that ladder you go, the probably better the results you're going to see over time but as long as you're doing more you're doing, you're being more consistent than you're not you should hypothetically, theoretically, whatever the word is you should be seeing some results but this is where it gets complicated, because then you start to rank how badly do I want these things?
Speaker 2because there are things like right now I'd say my fitness is probably my, behind my family, my number two priority yeah uh period. So, like the majority of my energy except for this morning because I'm a piece of shit the majority of my energy is going towards that right um. So then you end up like ranking how badly do I want these things, because if you want these things bad enough, you are going to trend towards closer to being 100 consistent.
Speaker 1Yes, I agree I agree and and and I think that scale is going to move up and down, uh, but like you said, the the high the priority in your life, the easier potentially it is, or the more willing you are to put the effort into it, which causes the consistency to happen like getting up in the morning and going to the gym. But then, as that scale maybe slides down, something in your life becomes more important. Then that maybe drops off a tiny bit, but in the long run again, whether that's so you missed today, whatever, but tomorrow you're not going to again. Whether that's so you missed today, whatever, but tomorrow you're not going to miss, so that's fine. And again, out of a seven-day work week, if that happens twice and you go five, you're still winning Totally. If you can get seven of seven, awesome, and next week you can get seven. I mean you build up some stuff, some momentum. We keep repeating the same words.
Speaker 2I'm like, should I shoot myself in the face? Like it's like this is the same podcast episode 49, also the same as episode 12, 21, 32, 34 I apologize, people, but it's just.
Speaker 1It's just. I think it's so important because it's so lacking in the people that we see, uh, you know, even the new people coming into the nursing home I know some of you are listening to this even the new people coming into the nursing home where they just haven't built up in their life that, uh, consistency in the fitness or consistency in something and, and because of that it's hard, because of that, because of that, the fact that they haven't built that in, it is super hard for them to get on that train and to get some momentum and get moving, because it's like climbing uphill, right. But at some point, if you continue doing it, you're going to find a point where it's like I like this. So this weekend I didn't work. I worked out a bit, but not a baton, but every morning 5 30, my eyes were open yeah, and I was like damn it I can sleep in this shit, I'm awake.
Speaker 1but like that's just to say that, like the consistency I built in over the year of getting up mostly at 4.30 in the morning, it just it becomes easier to do. Yes, it sucks initially, and it sucks some days more than others, but you just start doing it and then that and again it's prioritizing. I'm prioritizing my fitness or my health, so that because of that I'm doing it.
Speaker 2But then why do people prioritize, like you kind of said, they're leaving themselves an out. What's the priority there, then? Because you're prioritizing something if you're leaving yourself an out, if you say like I want this, but Comfort.
Speaker 1The out's usually yeah, usually based on comfort or ease of doing something, I've decided comfort, because all my excuses are yeah, comfort is the death of growth, totally, totally. And that's what it is, because, listen, I am lazy. I am a lazy person. It's funny how people you're perceived a certain way by certain people and then you know kind of who you are at the root right.
Speaker 2But if you could see yourself the way others perceive you, and vice versa, it'd be a strange world. It would be, and I think you can kind of get some ideas great black mirror episode.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah I think you can get start, get kind of get an idea of what people, how people see you potentially.
Speaker 2But like I not to interrupt you. I don't think so. I I think, I honestly believe that the way I see myself is so off from probably how other people see me.
Speaker 1I yeah, no, I I agree. So I agree, internally we're very different, but my point is, I think, that, based on the environment you're in how are people saying whatever I think you can get an understanding of how you're viewed by other people, right, yeah?
Speaker 2But do you ever ask people to describe you?
Speaker 1No, but I'm just saying I mean character. I would mean characteristically, I mean like so, uh. So, for example, like I think that, um, everyone's got some sort of like body dysmorphia a little bit right. Doesn't matter how fit you usually are, you probably think that you could be your fat or you could be better, or whatever the thing is. Uh, but in general, I think you can kind of get an idea of how people view you in that sense Versus like so from my perspective, in my head it's like I know I could. I would feel like crap, but what do I really want? I could lay in my bed or sit at my computer, play video games for 17 hours in a day. You couldn't. I know that I could, I guarantee.
Speaker 3I don't think you could I guarantee. This is how we view you, though.
Speaker 1That's my point. My point is from a comfort perspective. I'm not saying so. It's funny because I've definitely changed over time as far as like mindset and that kind of thing, but I know that deep down that is who I could be.
Speaker 2I think you could do that. If it was January, it was blizzarding outside. You had a good workout the day before, um, your kids weren't doing anything. It was a saturday, uh, your wife was home and taking care of there's no, I think you could do that for one day, and then I think you would go so fucking insane, he couldn't do it for one day yeah, like, like I don't, I disagree, I disagree, but the my.
Speaker 1I think my point is that, like the, again, I think it's because, but I don't think so I disagree, I disagree, but I think my point is that, like the, again, I think it's because, but I don't allow myself to, and if I did that I know I'd feel like a lazy piece of crap.
Speaker 3Can you imagine the workout you'd have the next day? No, but that's my-, because you would force yourself to go to the gym and destroy your body.
Speaker 1But you're not hearing. What I'm saying is that, like I get that and that is who I am now, I have made myself where, if I don't work out in a day, I feel like I haven't accomplished much Even if I've done other things and I didn't get my workout in.
Speaker 1So on a Saturday, if I get up and I don't work out and I end up cleaning the house and sitting on playing on the computer for a little bit or doing something playing with the kids but then just doing things I want to do, but at some point I didn't like do a workout. I'm like it's so funny.
Speaker 3I'm like depressed. Yeah, on Sunday, my job all day. The only thing I did all Sunday was I started a fire at like 10 am and I kept the fire going until about 11 pm when the fireworks started and I and I told my wife at the end of the day like I played a lot. I played so much with the kids though it was awesome, but at the end of the day I felt like a piece of garbage yeah and she's like no, she's like.
Social Inspiration and Accountability
Speaker 3You earned the fact you can just do this and play with your kids and not worry about a single thing so let me ask you this but that's different than playing video games for 17 hours a day, because I feel I still had a little bit of a call. What if?
Speaker 2what if that that fire was your only source of heat? Or what if? And?
Speaker 1oh, you had to chop down the wood I bet you'd feel way different.
Speaker 3Yeah, for sure. Yeah, well, there would be more of a sense of accomplishment because you've imposed buying my wood.
Speaker 2Totally I can't believe you. Do you buy wood?
Speaker 3no, we get it from. The campsite is a big stash and we just go take it from there but like if you like.
Speaker 2That's why I think the working out right. Like you impose some struggle on yourself yeah because I feel like I think we all feel the same way at the start of the year.
Speaker 3We do deadfall, though, so we go out and it's so much fun yeah and we collect it all, we bring it back and we have a big fire for like a couple hours and the kids love it because they get to see that and you probably feel rewarded yeah, you do. I felt a lot better that day than I did on sunday at the end of the day.
Speaker 2I think that's why I like gardening so much, which, like no other man, my age seems to say it's the same thing, though, yeah I, you get to reap the fruits of your labor it's like when I did construction it the the satisfaction of showing up one morning.
Speaker 1you got a foundation, you and that's it, and you got all the wood there with the joists and that kind of stuff and by the end of the day there's like a nice, like flat sheeted floor and like, ah, look what we did. And the next day you come and you bang up some walls and they're like, oh my God, it's a house and like the actual, like physical, like you can see the accomplishment you'd had during that day.
Speaker 3That's why the kids like Lego.
Speaker 1So much, I guarantee, because they get to see that end result. I don't know if you can find this quote and I can't know if you can find this quote and I can't because I'm going to butcher it but essentially it's something about if you're not, you kind of, you're not the person you want to be, but you basically pretend. You basically pretend and play, put on like a, you play to be that person, pretend to be that person.
Speaker 1And at some point in time in the pretending to be that person that you wish you were. You become that person, like, literally fake it till you make it completely. But it's like in the process of the like, I wish I was like that. So I'm going to pretend to be like that, I'm going to like, I'm going to act like I think that person would act and next thing, you know wait a minute, I am now. I'm not that, not that person, because it's become who I am. That's a lot to Google.
Speaker 3I know and I don't know. There's a lot coming out. Just pretend to be the person you want to be, yeah.
Speaker 1There's a quote specifically from a book. I don't know, I can't think of what it is, but it's something along those lines's almost like you ask yourself like what would that if I was that person?
Speaker 2what would I be doing? Right, completely? Uh, it's like because if, like, if I want to be david goggins, like as soon as you guys leave, I'd probably strap on my running shoes and go crush like a 10 mile run.
Speaker 3Yeah, I'm not gonna do that do you want to be that person? I don't want to be no david god no, I'm neither.
Speaker 2I just want to be like john goggins, john goggins I don't know.
Speaker 1There's always those people that you, that I mean. That's what's cool about the world we live in, like if you use social media in a way that allows you to find the people that inspire you to push yourself. I mean, I think it's amazing for that. There's obviously a lot of pitfalls with social media. But, for example, like cam haynes or these guys that are just like savages and pushing themselves always, but you, you but if you view it with like lust, because you, we've all done it.
Speaker 2You look at like cam haynes, you're like fuck, he's got a nice truck and like, oh, not like that way, I just mean the how, I don't mean the, the material items standing abs or what I'm?
Speaker 1yeah, I'm talking like that from a yeah, there's that for sure depends on like I'm not looking, I'm not, I don't mean like that at all. I mean like in his ability to push his body every single day to the limit. Yes, that that's what I mean. Yeah, sure you could go the other way and say, well, look at all these things. He has.
Speaker 2But that's the pitfall of social media, right? Because I've fallen into both categories. Yeah for sure. Right where sometimes, right where sometimes you're using it, you're like you know what, like I need to get after it because these people are getting after it. It's more so with my friends, like when usually you fucks, pressure me so much when you're working out and I don't. I just it's like self-imposed pressure, but I'm like shit they worked out today and I didn't I.
Speaker 1That's. What's cool about having friends who are like-minded but are all striving to do something better for themselves is because, even if you don't mean to, it makes you accountable, because it makes you feel like, ah, damn it, I got to get those stupid shoes on and go for a run, and it's a good thing. But we're lucky to have that friend group that does that for each other, where some people don't have that. And I think the one potential positive about social media, if used properly, is you can find those people Like Jocko or Cam Haines or Stumpf or whoever. Whoever the person is there's a million of them that you could find Tim Kennedy there's a billion of them out there. You've got to find the right ones who have a positive message along with it, that aren't just doing it for the Instagram chicks who are always doing the.
The Impact of Choices and Chance
Speaker 3I wonder, because there's like a deadless you ever think about like? Because we we have a, we have a like a smaller, tight social group like the three of us and some other people, um, and we're all from different walks of life. Do you ever think about what it'd be like if we never kind of found our group and we didn't even maybe start in the nursing home, do something else, if you would be the same physically as you are now, if you went in a different path and did another job with no I mean I mean yeah, I mean I, I know I wouldn't be the same I.
Speaker 1I for me, I was lucky like I started. I started working out in like grade 10. Uh, I just had a good influence in my life back then who was big into working out, he was into bodybuilding, uh, and I was like this is cool, I want to do it. So I've been in the gym since grade 10, off and on, and so I think I would have continued the physical fitness at some point.
Speaker 3I don't think it would be at the level that I'm at, or I mean who the hell knows, but I don't think I would be where I was now, I never really started doing the gym seriously until about 30, I want to say Then it's because of the closer friend group we have, you're different because you you worked out earlier when you were on the same way.
Speaker 2I credit to brian james when I had just graduated high school, but you mind that I haven't talked to since then. He's like, hey, let's go to the gym. And I was like, oh, I kind of like this thing. I remember the very first time I went to the gym I did like so many bicep curls and I was so weak. My arms were like like the circumference of a freaking broomstick. I did so many curls that my arms were swollen the next day and I couldn't move my arms.
Speaker 3Oh, you couldn't straighten them. Yeah, I've had that before.
Speaker 2Oh, it was like the worst and truly, if that person hadn't introduced me to the gym. It's weird to think it's kind of like that Apple show that I've been watching that you were telling me about dark matter.
Speaker 1oh, so good, like the multi, oh so good, I love it.
Speaker 2Where did your life end up? Yeah and it'd be. It'd be super cool to see yourself in different scenarios. Because the problem is, you ever seen that picture on instagram where it's like? It's like a tree, it's a picture like a horizontal tree and on one side it's black and it's like?
Speaker 2these are the choices that led you to this point, right and then on the other side it's like green, it's like these are the potential choices open to you. And it's totally true, right, because it's like different choices that will lead, and so because like have you seen? That. No, I'll set it to you next time, if you ever go on instagram again yeah, I, I'll do a, I'll do a post about something I got one post.
Speaker 1I got one post. That's something you and your wife should do is watch dark matter.
Speaker 3This weekend maybe we got to finish shogun we're gonna stab at that, um, but I I thought about this the other day because I had a. I had a relationship with uh, my wife and another girl for the first three months of dating.
Speaker 3My wife, uh, excuse me well, she knows, and uh, and so it came to a point where I was just whatever, so I I shut one down, I married karen, never looked back. It's amazing. But, um, I was in the gym on thursday and I'm working out there and my ex this ex who my wife loves, by the way um, sits down.
Speaker 1Sarcasm.
Speaker 3If you didn't catch, oh it's totally sits down beside me because she lives about half a block away and starts working out and she's very um, social media ish, very all about the looks, the, the eyelash, stuff like that and I and I got done working out. I'm like man, am I happy with my like? And she's a great person. But I'm like man, am I happy with my choices? Because I don't think I would be the same type of person I am now if I took that fork in the road going. I'd probably be a good person, but not with this friend group, not with all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2Totally it'd be like a complete unknown. That's like when you see like your high school ex and she's like super not attractive anymore and you're like whoo, dodged a bullet there well, that's yeah I.
Speaker 3It's weird the choices we make. It really it's so weird. I should watch that show you were talking about that, uh, dark matter yes yes, does that kind of go through this like what your choice?
Speaker 2I'm only two episodes in.
Speaker 1I can't really essentially it's like the idea of the multiverse and that that, at any point in time, any decision you made splits essentially splits you off into a different version of you. I like this and that different version of you lives their life their way. You live your life your way, but you obviously are not aware of that. Uh, but they kind of this guy kind of finds the ability how to go between them.
Speaker 3Not a spoiler, but can the person see what they?
Speaker 1would have been if the other choices happened.
Speaker 3No spoilers, all good. Yeah, I'm going to leave it alone. It's a really good show.
Speaker 1No, but I think it's a waste. I think it's interesting to think about. I think it's a giant waste of time. I think it goes without saying Any significant life choice or time uh, I, I it's. I think it goes without saying any significant life choice, or you may be some insignificant life choice you thought were insignificant.
Speaker 2Had you made differently, would have changed well, it's like, hey, if I turned left here instead of right, completely been t-boned by a truck down the road. Completely.
Speaker 1It's like who knows, or if I left 10 minutes earlier or 10 minutes later, like everything, everything in the in. In the end, if you go back you could think this could have altered the course of my life.
Speaker 2So here's a weird one for you uh person we know that we work with. Uh, he has a house out by waterton that he owns with some family members that we go to once a year for some stuff. Uh, he was telling me he was out for a hike and found a um cow that had been mauled by a grizzly bear yikes oh yeah, I'll show you pictures after you send me pictures of it.
Speaker 2Uh, so this cow had beenuled by a grizzly bear. Yikes, oh yeah, I'll show you pictures after you send me pictures of it. So this cow had been murdered by this grizzly bear, apparently like this bear had like whacked the cow in the neck, broke this cow's neck and then like sliced it open. The pictures you can see, like the claw marks from the bear on it. Jeez, he called Fish and Game, and there's a point to this, I'll get to it. He called Fish and Game. Fish and Game came and looked and basically said based on the size of the tooth, this is probably like a thousand pound grizzly bear Like fuck me.
Speaker 3No, wow, no.
Speaker 2Anyway. So he was telling me, though, because, the way this cow had been left, he believed that the grizzly bear had left it there and was going to come back, and apparently they'll bury it and let it rot there and eat it as it rots. Okay, um, and he says I suspect this bear was probably watching us while we were there screwing with its food source, and they hauled it out of there, um, got rid of it. However, this guy's wife was going to go for a run ahead of him.
Speaker 2That morning and for whatever reason, she chose to take a different path than she usually takes. And if she had taken that path, presumably she would have run into that bear, based on what he knows about the circumstances. Geez, what the fuck is that? Yeah, that's just random chance but what is it? In the universe. That's like you are going to take a different path today, out of the days where you take.
Speaker 3You think there's an intuition piece to that 100. There has to be there how could there not be I?
Speaker 2don't know how could not be. Why on that day would she make a different choice? It's just coincidence, man, that's not.
Speaker 1I understand that it can't be 100%. It could be, but I don't know. I don't know. I'm not saying I don't know.
Speaker 3There's intuition things and gut feelings that you guys have had at the nursing home that have altered what you're doing in a good way, as opposed to a very bad way, right, but I think it's our body and so I'm not okay.
Speaker 1It depends on what we mean by intuition.
Speaker 3But like I think it's Fortune telling is what we're talking about.
Speaker 1I think it means Connecting with the mystic forces. Well see, I think that we are just not as in tune with our brains as we think we are, so meaning that, like, I think, we're taking in more information than we actually are aware of, which then gives us that sense of, oh, something's not right here, yes, that we can't put a finger on it because we, but something in our brains recognize that something's off. And so that that you would be, some people say, is intuition, some people would say that's Jesus, that's, some people would say that's a God or someone, whatever, telling them the crystal in their pocket, whatever the thing is that they they claim is the reason for having that. I just think we're not aware of what it is that we're sensing or seeing, and it happens all the time, right? Uh, I would probably agree with that.
Speaker 2Your brain's processing information that you are not readily available completely cognizant of. That makes a lot of sense how could she avoid the run?
Speaker 1that's a little different, because that's not like something she there's obviously not something in the moment that she's seeing in the area that's causing her body to be like let's go somewhere else. So who knows?
Speaker 2but maybe there was, maybe you know, other animals can detect different wavelengths of light.
Speaker 3I'm just saying oh yeah, let's put the lab coat on, let's go let's fucking go.
Speaker 2Uh, it's like the same, as people, like you know, don't get on the airplane, and then they don't get on the airplane and it crashes yeah, there are people and have september 11 stories about that too, right what's that movie?
Speaker 1um what uh final destination?
Speaker 3oh no it's like worse, it's like that, and then death comes for them because they cheated. You're behind the logs on the highway and the logs fall off.
Speaker 2You never know. The escalator just keeps going and swallows you whole.
Speaker 3Yeah, it scares me and then that goes back to the life calendar as well it's just.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's weird that because I'd love to know what it is. But what is the thing? Or is it it? Because I think there is a thing that just prompted a change of your plan, change your decision that quite probably saved your life.
Speaker 1I don't know. I'm open, I guess, to that idea.
Speaker 2And there's a risk to attributing it to divine intervention. Oh for sure.
Speaker 1I think there's, I don't know. I think that I think that some, I think we always want to find meaning in something versus, and I, and I do think there are things as such as coincidences, so I'm not saying that there. There's times when it's not a coincidence, where you're like I said, you've, you've, for some reason, you have this intuition, something's wrong and you make a decision.
Speaker 3But other times.
Speaker 1I think we'll just get lucky and uh yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3I I think you're right. People try to find and nail it down to something. There's a yeah, it could just be luck that day that caused her to not run that way.
Speaker 1I don't know if it was a sam harris book I write or a hitchens book, but basically the idea was that the idea of why we attribute gods to everything from the beginning of time, like it's greek gods or the, whatever, all the different variations that we've gone through through religions and gods is that we are pattern-seeking behavior animals. We are always trying to see the pattern in something and the reason and the why and even if there necessarily isn't one, and I, yeah, I don't- know.
Speaker 2I also think that's why, at the nursing home, certain people have the ability to be better. I don't know if better is the term, but better at the job, yeah, in the role I'm talking about, certain people have the ability to be better because of pattern recognition. Very much so, and it's really impressive. Those that are good at it are freaking good at it Completely.
Movie Revenge Discussions and Nostalgic Memories
Speaker 1Yeah, I've determined that, like I don't want to get into, that Next.
Speaker 3I've been subconsciously thinking about what the best revenge movie is, because we talked about the revenge movie at the start.
Speaker 1Because I think.
Speaker 2Prisoners is like a revenge movie. Prisoners is very good. He's going to watch it. What's the one with Gerard Butler?
Speaker 3So no, the one where he goes to jail and Jamie Foxx is the.
Speaker 1That's good, but it's I don't, I'm not a draw butler is a b braided movie.
Speaker 2I don't I'm not a big fan of him sure, but you didn't say what was the best revenge movie with an a-list actor?
Speaker 3oh, good point, I didn't specify that's a good point.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's a good um it.
Speaker 3What is that movie called?
Speaker 2man on fire. No, no, that was a good one.
Speaker 1I was thinking more good one.
Speaker 3I was thinking more like Gladiator.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, denzel Washington, that might be it. That's a really good one.
Speaker 3I think Gladiator tops that, because Gladiator is a revenge movie. I've never seen it.
Speaker 1Are you kidding? Oh, I hate you. Sometimes You're just the worst, Like okay, we need to make a list.
Speaker 2I think we like a thing for it. Gladiator is literally one of the best movies ever made.
Speaker 3I don't know, but I've heard.
Speaker 1It is amazing, and Braveheart is also one of the best movies ever made. I've heard a few people say that. Please watch those.
Speaker 3Is Braveheart a revenge movie, john?
Speaker 1Wick no. Yes, it is, but you can't compare that to Gladiator or Braveheart. No, the first John Wick you can compare. No, you cannot, because the first John Wick had some story had the dog. Yeah, you cannot.
Speaker 3They killed his dog, yeah, and the dog was associated with his wife, so they killed the last bit of his wife that he had and they just gunned him.
Speaker 2Speed's a pretty good revenge movie.
Speaker 3Shut up. Hey, that's not appropriate.
Speaker 2It's not.
Speaker 3Anything with Sandra Bullock does not count. No, speed was a revenge movie, you're right, it totally was and let's be real Sandra Bullock circa 1996?
Speaker 2Tell me you wouldn't.
Speaker 3Terrible actress. Do you have a DVD player in your house? I don't care about her acting skills.
Speaker 1Do you have a?
Speaker 2DVD player. I have an Xbox.
Speaker 1Okay, I think I have both Gladiator and Braveheart.
Speaker 2I'll bring for you. I don't know if I can dedicate the time. I'm busy. Yes, you can.
Speaker 1You can find time at night when you're hanging out with your kid. She doesn't need to watch, she doesn't, she's not.
Speaker 3She doesn't register at all either. She can watch that she doesn't. You could watch Gl menace. She will.
Speaker 2I'm just spitting out excuses. Most nights we don't even watch TV anymore. Please find time.
Speaker 3Yeah, we don't either.
Speaker 2We do whatever it is we do, and then we go to bed More so in the summer, but gardening chores oh, okay, there we go.
Speaker 3I didn't know what we were talking about here. We were talking about Sandra Bullock circa 1996.
Speaker 2Go to one too deep down that rabbit hole Like come on, Like 10 out of 10.
Speaker 3No, yes, I think in was it 93. You said I don't know, there was probably more attractive female actresses to me.
Speaker 1What's the Starship Troopers girl. What was her name? Never seen it, nev Campbell, no, no no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3Denise richards, she was my like crush. When I was young was she in wild things yes, she was, and I've never seen wild things. How messed up is that. That's pretty because it has that scene that everyone talks about I think I was in high school like junior high. I would have been a big.
Speaker 1It was a, it was a formative, a formative formative period.
Speaker 2Can you look up where your speed came out?
Speaker 1it's oh man uh, the other one that I remember when I was in grade 11.
Speaker 2So let me ask you this Okay, so would you shoot the hostage? If I was the hostage, would I shoot?
Speaker 3No, but they didn't shoot him to kill, they just shot him to the shoulder. Oh, they shot him in the knee or something, yeah.
Speaker 1I'm shooting you in the knee, so you go down to, yeah sure.
Speaker 2Yeah, why not?
Speaker 1Shoot the hostage.
Speaker 3It's 94.
Speaker 1You can do what you want, but I wouldn't want to get your knee because that's probably going to cause you lifelong problems.
Speaker 2I love his. It's right at the start of the movie. It's like Throat Mike.
Speaker 3Yeah, actually, pinch the pinch right there.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's awesome, I forgot that.
Speaker 2It's been so long, see, I would watch steals the Jamaican guy's car and then he's on the freeway.
Speaker 3How do you know so much about this movie? I?
Speaker 2have watched Speed and Independence. Day probably a hundred times each, Like you know the music on the freeway.
Speaker 1No, I don't. No, we don't, because we watch normal movies. Oh yeah, I've watched it one time.
Speaker 2Oh no, I could probably recite line for line have you watched Princess Bride? Princess bride, yeah, that's a good movie, that's a great movie, that's a great movie, so it's princess diaries princess bride is a great which uh, princess bride's the like, the medieval fantasy one.
Speaker 1Right, yeah, hello my name is niga montoya you killed my father.
Speaker 2The guy from the guy that would be a movie I'd want to watch with my child it's hilarious.
Speaker 1I have, I have a video of, uh, when you're watching with my kids when they were probably my guess is like four and seven- ish yeah and it's hilarious because there's like the sword scene and uh, they're one like there was.
Speaker 1You know, it's younger than four, maybe like two, because he had, he had I don't remember, he was like in his underwear or diapers and he had like a little sword and they're like sword fighting, while you can hear in the background the ting, ting, ting, ting, ting ting. He's like I know something you don't know. I am not left-handed.
Speaker 3Switches, mid-fight switches. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so good. The best reveal of like who the hero was when he the as you wish thing when he says it to her and she remembers that it's him.
Speaker 1Better than the departed Wesley. Oh, my sweet Wesley, have Wesley.
Speaker 3Have you seen the Departed? I have.
Movie Memories and Future Guests
Speaker 1Wesley, that's right, wesley, as you wish, as he rolls down the hill.
Speaker 2I've seen that movie so many times. Spoiler Sorry, cj, I have not seen the movie that many times.
Speaker 3Oh, so many times. Oh yeah, that's our speed, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2What is your number one most watched movie?
Speaker 1Honestly, it could be that.
Speaker 3It could be little mermaid. Mine was the matrix, the first matrix. Oh yeah, that was prime.
Speaker 1I went to that a couple times in theaters as well. Yeah, kids movies I watched a ton of. We watched disney a lot growing up, so I watched yeah uh, and then the second matrix was probably
Speaker 3man movie. What man movie? That you will probably braveheart braveheart, or probably princess bride I've watched those. A ton man movie, yeah that, yeah, that's a man movie Hmm yeah. What is yours Speed?
Speaker 2I think Independence Day yeah.
Speaker 1I've seen that a lot.
Speaker 2I think I've seen that movie Independence Day, speed or maybe the Second Matrix man you have to.
Speaker 3I really love the fight scene in that movie is the one when they're like in that, the spiral staircases on each side. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2That is a cool fight scene and he's like remember when he like stops the guy's blade with his hand and then the French guy's like look, he's just human, or something like that the first Matrix, though the Merovingian, the best part of the first Matrix is when he goes to the metal detectors. Yeah, I love the vibe of the first Matrix. Yeah, yeah, so good Like grunge vibe. Yeah, yeah, a lot of movies had that back then.
Speaker 3The fourth one I watched like a couple months ago.
Speaker 2I haven't still watched that Dude.
Speaker 1I shut it off.
Speaker 3It was so fucking bad.
Speaker 2I shut it off about it made me. It actually makes me sad because of how good the first and second one were. The third one was kind of shit, yep, but it's a tough story to wrap up, I think, yeah.
Speaker 3And.
Speaker 2I didn't like. I didn't like things that like they told too much story about, like the underground settlement, I didn't give a shit about that.
Speaker 3And the third one, zion, yeah, yeah. And like that dancing scene where they're the end of the like on, so they weren't fully orgying, they were just like dancing in the rain. I was like. Last year I watched my wife. She said what's going on? I'm like think, like honestly think about it, though. This is like you are all gonna die tomorrow. You're a bunch of adults, you're having a big party that's probably gonna happen totally 100.
Speaker 2I just as a child, I was actually more interested in the fight.
Speaker 3Did you watch with your parents too, and all of a sudden.
Speaker 2oh my god, this, oh my God, this is awkward.
Speaker 1Close your eyes? I actually no, I know I did. Yeah, that was in Trinity in that show.
Speaker 3Carrie.
Speaker 1Fisher, fisher, yes, no, no, that's the no, that's the.
Speaker 2Jedi girl. Yeah, she's gone. Sorry, carrie. Carrie Ann Moss. Carrie Ann Moss, yes, with her tight motorcycle suit.
Speaker 3Yeah, I was crushing her when I was younger. Yeah, every guy was.
Speaker 1I need to go check my library of DVDs which I just throw in the garbage and see if I have it?
Speaker 2No, because then you'll buy a car with a DVD player. You'll get a fucking used Pimp my Ride vehicle.
Speaker 1That's true, I need to bring you those two movies. You have to find a time.
Speaker 2First off, I think we live in an age where I can just access them from my laptop, maybe my TV or whatever it is.
Speaker 1I don't know what they're streamed on.
Speaker 3I think it's just the reality. It's like a record. You want to watch it on DVD.
Speaker 1It's better. Yeah, you need a sound system.
Speaker 3It's a very true altruistic way to watch movies.
Speaker 2I would like to watch Independence.
Speaker 1Day again.
Speaker 2I could have been at a barbecue Dragging that thing through the desert, yeah, so good, will Smith is canceled you can't.
Speaker 1There's a new Bad Boys out that I'm kind of interested in watching.
Speaker 3I'd watch it, yeah, what.
Speaker 1Bad.
Speaker 2Boys 5?
Speaker 14?.
Speaker 3No, but it's not. No, it's not Bad Boys for life, it's called Bad Boys for ride or die or something like that. This guy, it looks like.
Speaker 2Yeah, he's kind of let himself go.
Speaker 3Let him do it, he deserves it.
Speaker 2All right, no. What can we expect next week?
Speaker 3Episode 50. Yeah.
Speaker 1This is very vague. I was like son. I hope, uh, we have a guest coming next week yeah I was gonna say so this is, this is yes, we have a guest and she is one of our top listened to podcasts. I thought she was the top listened to and then I looked at the numbers and it's not anymore. Is it the mormonism? The easy is the top listen to podcast? Uh, followed secondly by uh, the famous funny alley prize she's funny, she's great yeah, uh, yes, I'll to prepare myself.
Speaker 1She's gonna want me to make fun of her and I don't think I can do that, or like just have a couple puns ready to go.
Speaker 2I'm not good at that. No, I know None of us are.
Speaker 1None of us are those people. We're all dads Just watch like a week's worth of Kill Tony. Oh my God, they go so hard, so good.
Speaker 2Have you seen the Estonian comedian on Kill? Tony, no kill tony no, he is hilarious he's like straight off the boat I gotta watch it.
Speaker 3I gotta watch it.
Speaker 1I love the dr phil guy, oh man adam ray yeah he's so funny.
Speaker 3Yeah, he's ridiculous even when he's not dr phil, like he's just when he's just out there being. I don't even know what he looks like when he's not dr phil oh I watch his stand-up before dr phil he's so good, he just crowd, works stuff do you ever wish you would have like developed that?
Speaker 1no skill more no, I don't think it's in me.
Speaker 3I think some people just have it and some people don't I went to a went to a conference a couple weeks ago and they 8 am 8, 30 am. The way they started the conference. They brought a stand-up comedian. That's awesome, and he just lit the room up for 30 minutes and it was the best time. It was the best thing ever. What a way to start a conference. It was the best time. It was the best thing ever. What a way to start a conference.
Speaker 2It was the best thing ever. That's like I went to a fundraiser for an animal shelter a couple of years ago at a high school out by your house and I was like, Ooh, this could go either way, Right Cause it's a comedian.
Speaker 3Yeah, oh yeah, so they.
Speaker 2I went to this fundraiser there and I'm like there's like like there's like a lot of like pita adjacent people there. They're my people. I like appreciate you supporting animals. Um, and this comedian came out and was just spitting fire like just no lines, and I was like, yes, this is what you guys needed to bring for comedy, because it's the only thing that's funny.
Speaker 1That's funny I, yeah, I. I just I think some people I don't know if it's the way obviously I think they become those people the way either they were brought up or just how they understand the world.
Speaker 2But yeah, I've nothing, zero chance, I could do that job yeah, me too yeah, same, and that's why we are fortunate to have people in our life that can do that job.
Speaker 1Yeah, I agree, so she's next, and then we have some ideas for a couple other people coming in. Hopefully we get Russell out here.
Speaker 2Russell Brandt Sure, yeah, he's coming.
Speaker 1Yeah, he said he'd be here. Good, we can talk to him about why he always wears a deep V.
Speaker 2Why wouldn't you? It's true, we can talk to him about why he always wears a deep V.
Speaker 1Why wouldn't you If you had a chest like that? He's kind of got like a girly chest.
Speaker 2You don't care, he's.
Speaker 1European. He's a purple belt in Jiu-Jitsu.
Speaker 2Jiu-Jitsu.
Speaker 1Yes, no. Russell Stewart from CrossFit Framework. We want him on Excited, we still don't have a doctor on. We still don't have a doctor. We still don't have a doctor that we've gotten a hold of.
Speaker 2I don't know any doctors. I can hardly get a hold of my family doctor.
Speaker 1If you are a listener and you are close to a doctor who would be willing to have a conversation regarding testosterone replacement therapy or other hormones. We'd be interested in having that conversation. We have questions.
Speaker 3We need answers.
Speaker 1We are just curious about the optimization of health versus the current sick care that we experience. Uh, it's actually so. I actually saw a video the other day about, uh, turkey, and there's chick from the states goes basically it's a wellness thing, and she said she fought you, fight a turkey. It's like a wellness retreat. It's specifically for this. They take you to this hospital that's set up to do all of these potential, all these scans. So you go, you show up, it's like a. It looks like a really fancy hospital. They have uh like you have like meals. They take you into the doctor. They have a translator that meets you there.
Speaker 1You do your first thing. They take your blood work, they check your blood. You go do a scan. They fold like a body scan, a bone scan. They do basically absolutely everything during one day. Uh, they feed you the oldest. It's like a and and the cost of it was like I can't, it was not that much. The full service package completely. And it's like uh, it's like a preventative slash, like you're optimizing your health idea and the same treatments in like the States. They show the difference in the numbers and it was just like one is literally you could not afford it. And then Turkey. It's like you know, it's a vacation, it's a couple thousand bucks. It's interesting. I think there's a market for that and I don't know how that works in like a healthcare system like ours. But if you could, if you could be set that up.
Speaker 1I kind of like how that place downtown where they have all of like the similar but except everybody in the same building yeah, except that focus more so on people who are not necessarily sick, but they want to do preventative care or they want to do. How can I?
Speaker 2optimize the problem is those people, the money comes out of their pocket Right, and so there's less people spending it Right.
Speaker 1You would need to be in like kind of a high income. Yeah, yeah, high income people who care for their health. I don't know. I think there's a market for it.
Speaker 2I think it's probably obviously a smaller market than we think, maybe, but just because of the cost, probably, yeah, yeah, and people, yeah, like it's, it's like one of those things, it's not a priority to you till it's like oh, my car is broken, I have a broken like preventative maintenance right but this is why I think something simple, like like how we're having conversations now about you know our testosterone levels and that kind of thing.
Speaker 1I think something simple, as if we get that into the consciousness of people when guys, while they're like mid, like younger 30s, mid 30s, early 40s, and they've done blood tests throughout yeah, it's just going to give you that much more data on, okay, what's actually happening to me as I age Totally. Do I need to do something preventative or are we good?
Speaker 3Yeah, totally.
Speaker 1Because it's hard to know when you start that process at 42, what your numbers were 10 years ago. Get your blood tested. People Do it. It's not that it's not the next way. Just go talk to your doctor and just when they push back say, well, why do you want your testosterone checked? You just have to say, sir, I care about my health, test my damn blood and before you get your blood test.
Speaker 3You go, stay up all night and have a bunch of fatty poop. No, don't try to, don't game the system. Don't try to game, it Just get a real number.
Speaker 1Just get a real number, Say I want to know so that I have a reference for when. I get five years older, 10 years older, whatever the thing is, or you're like yeah, I want to know what that actually did to my body physiologically.
Speaker 2totally take control that's all take control of your life um, okay, I'm hungry, I can tell you're done uh, everyone cj is done.
Speaker 1I noticed it in the body language and in the tone of his voice, so we are going to wrap this up.
Speaker 2I haven't eaten in so long.
Speaker 1Anyway, thank you for listening once again. If you haven't donated to Hattie Cagnola's, fund.
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Speaker 1A hundred Almost two hundred dollars Worth of goods Like Like come on, people Come on. It takes you five minutes, I know there's at least Probably fifty of you that are gonna listen to this.
Speaker 2And there's at least Fourteen of you that can donate Exactly. Come on, do it. I want to give you a shirt, do it, but I want you to work for it. What movie is that? Do it Blue Steel.
Speaker 1No, it's him, that guy, but it's not that movie. It is Starsky and Hutch. No, yes, shit. Yeah, I was right.
Speaker 2Do it Also if you haven't, you've been doing with your life.
Speaker 1Do it. Thank you for listening Episode 49. Jason's done too, because he's not talking anymore.
Speaker 3I never talk at the end. I've never said anything at the end, I just kind of sit here.
Speaker 2Yeah, why you just ruined it. Now we have to go for like five more minutes. Ah, okay, so anyway.
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