EdSales Edge Show
EdSales Edge is the strategy podcast for education founders, consultants, operators, and leaders selling into education.
For years, this show was known as Breaking the Grade, a space to challenge the status quo in education and think differently about how change actually happens. That mission hasn’t changed.
But the work has.
Over time, one thing became clear:
Education founders don’t just need inspiration.
They need clarity.
They need real strategies for selling into schools.
They need predictable ways to generate leads.
And they need to understand how trust is built in a system that doesn’t move fast, and doesn’t give many second chances.
EdSales Edge was rebuilt to match that reality.
Hosted by Josh Chernikoff, a two-time education founder who’s built and exited companies in this space, the show breaks down how selling into education actually works—across B2C, B2B, B2B2C, and B2E—always through the lens of how education institutions really make decisions.
This is not a show about hacks, shortcuts, or quick wins.
Education doesn’t work that way.
On EdSales Edge, you’ll hear:
- Real strategy for selling into education systems
- Conversations with education decision-makers who explain how buying actually happens from the inside
- Stories from founders, CEOs, and operators who’ve built real traction selling into schools—what worked, what didn’t, and what actually moved deals forward
- Teachings from the EdSales Elevation Experience, the system used to help education founders move from unclear and invisible to trusted and in demand
You’ll learn how to:
- Define your Perfect Client
- Pull the right credibility lever
- Move from being hidden… to trusted… to building a real lead engine
Josh is joined by his good friend and mentor, John Gamba—Director of Innovative Programs and Entrepreneur-in-Residence at Penn GSE, and a former education founder who’s led companies through real growth and successful exits. John brings the institutional lens, shaped by years inside districts, universities, and education systems, seeing how decisions get made when the doors are closed and what earns trust over time.
Together, they sit on both sides of the table, the builder side and the system side, so the show stays grounded in reality, not sales theory.
If you sell into education and you’re tired of guessing,
guessing who to talk to,
guessing how decisions get made,
guessing why interest doesn’t convert—
this show is built for you.
EdSales Edge
Clarity. Credibility. Real traction.
If you sell into education, this is where you earn your edge.
EdSales Edge Show
Breaking the Barriers of Language Learning with Malcolm Lee
Virtual Reality allows learners to experience an immersive environment where they can play, engage, and explore with real-time feedback.
In this episode of Breaking The Grade, we will have an exciting and grade-breaking discussion with Malcolm Lee, CEO and Founder of Gabb Global, on games and VR tech in language learning.
He will share with us:
- How to take advantage of current technologies available to build a company that will uplift education quality and provide innovative solutions;
- The importance of bringing accessibility to language learners, building their confidence and how the immersiveness of VR, and how engagement from games can create accelerated learning;
- His experience in startups and how it helped him launch his very own company;
- And much more!
If you are ready to learn and discover the power of learning through innovative solutions and zero in on the spots that need breakage and rebuilding in the education space, hit play and listen along!
Malcolm Lee is a neuroscience graduate from George Mason University. He has a wide range of background in business, research, and technology start ups. And his work experience includes project management, business development, biological research, and language learning in the classroom setting.
In 2017, he built and founded Gabb Global to break language learning barriers. His company is on a mission to use the power of VR technologies to improve the accessibility and effectiveness of immersive language learning experiences so they can eliminate the language barrier and create a more equitable world.
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/malcolm-lee-0349a718a/Website: https://www.gabbglobal.com/
