EP2: Fatherhood and Football With a Super Bowl Champ

Interview with Najee Goode / Super Bowl Champion, Entrepreneur and Lead Dad

HOSTED BY PAUL SULLIVAN

The former linebacker for the Philadelphia Eagles has sacked Tom Brady and intercepted him. He started a company, Veepio, that seeks to change the financial landscape for college athletes. Now living in Jacksonville, Florida, Najee is the lead dad to his two daughters, 5 and 4. He’s applied football lessons to fatherhood – and shares them along with some juicy stories from his Super Bowl LII win against the Patriots in 2017.

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Transcript

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Paul Sullivan
I'm Paul Sullivan, your host in the Company of Dads podcast, where we explore the sweet, sublime, strange and silly aspects of being a dad in a world where men often feel they have to hide, or at least not talk about their parenting role. I know this from firsthand experience as the lead dad to my three girls, three dogs, three cats, and some, remarkably, three fish who are still alive.

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Paul Sullivan
I did this all the while managing my career and striving to be an above average husband. One thing I know for sure about being a dad is it's not a normal role. You're not doing what dads have judicially done, going to work and even the parenting, the mom or someone else. Nor are you always welcome into the world where moms are the primary caregivers.

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Paul Sullivan
But here at the Company of Dads, our goal is to shake all that off and focus on what really matters family, friendship, finance, and fun. Today I'm super excited about this today. My guest is Najee Good, Super Bowl champion, entrepreneur and the dad energy played nine seasons as a linebacker in the NFL, including four with the Philadelphia Eagles, where he was part of the team that won Super Bowl 52 against, wait for it, Tom Brady and the New England Patriots.

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Paul Sullivan
He retired from the NFL in 2020, but a trivia night? His dad, John, also played for the Eagles in the 1980s as a tight end. Since leaving football, Najee has worked for the NFL Alumni Association, but he's also an entrepreneur, part of the group behind BPO, which I'll let him tell you about in a bit. Najee is a dad to his two daughters, ages four and five, is also the only guy I've ever played golf with.

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Paul Sullivan
Who after duffing what, like 1011 shots in a row? I didn't make fun of him. I figured if he got mad at me, I couldn't outrun him. And, if he actually hit me, that'd be the end of my golf season. Najee, welcome to the Comfort of Dad's podcast. How are you.

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Najee Good
Man? I'm doing phenomenal. It is awesome to be here surrounded by awesome dads.

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Paul Sullivan
I got asked first question who you rooting for in the Super Bowl?

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Najee Good
I'm actually rooting for Cincinnati Bengals, man. I'm a I'm I got to go with the home hometown hero at quarterback. Job with Joe Burrow is he's a Ohio native and he's from Cincinnati. So he has an interesting background right now. This swag around the Atlanta swag around him is, captivating.

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Paul Sullivan
It is real diamonds, right? That's his whole thing, like somebody said. Exactly right. Yeah.

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Najee Good
Exactly.

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Paul Sullivan
Joey Burr I'm, I look, I'm, I'm, you know, I'm rooting for the Bengals as well, but who fascinates me is that kicker a kicker is I mean, he's kicked he kicked him in the championship game. He kicked him into the Super Bowl. I know I got to talk about quarterbacks rest of the team, but that kicker is pretty impressive.

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Najee Good
Yeah he he's setting the stage for an awesome career. If he can keep it going to win it to one two big ones like that. If he can do it with the third and Super Bowl, I know the offense is probably don't want it to come down to that, but if he does, I mean, that dude is, it's going to be real diamonds in, real field.

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Najee Good
Some be

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Paul Sullivan
They're gonna have a diamond competition.

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Najee Good
Exactly.

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Paul Sullivan
Let's talk about your time when you're playing the Super Bowl. Set the stage for when you won the, you know, Super Bowl with the Eagles. You beat the Patriots. So paint the picture. This is going to all you know leading up to the Super Bowl. What was that week like when you think back that week like nope not the game itself.

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Paul Sullivan
But that week like before as you were leading up to to the game.

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Najee Good
The week actually leading up was I mean, it was like a movie. The one thing I would say about the NFL, for all the critics out there, is that the Super Bowl is the most watched, most eventful time of the year. And when you talk about, you know, American sports, like, you know, North American sports, because leading up to that week, prior to the Super Bowl, you spend another week.

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Najee Good
But when they play the Pro Bowl and that week is kind of like trapped in the powder keg to just explode that Super Bowl week. And what's cool about it is that, you know, being at the, my daughter's there, my second daughter was actually just born, and I was able to dress her in all that be days of gear.

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Najee Good
And I while I had a, you know, one year old out there, I had another, two year old out there and another one to follow my second daughter. And, you know, they make a family friendly. I it's an awesome, awesome time. We got to practice. We actually stayed at the Mall of America, which was immaculate.

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Najee Good
And, I was at the NFL. Definitely. They present the Super Bowl to the fans, to the teams and the coaches and in a proper manner.

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Paul Sullivan
That's why I gotta I did they make the Eagles gear come in that small of a size. Are there like Eagles onesies that that the.

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Najee Good
Oh yeah that. Well you're born in Philadelphia. They they kind of do that thing whether you get pompoms or a football. It's that's pretty awesome.

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Paul Sullivan
All right. So then you get to game day. Now the Eagles obviously had a great season or they win have gotten there. And it did a little quick research here. You guys actually had the same record. The Eagles and the and the Patriots had the same record. Yeah going in but you know let's face it it's like it's Tb12 and the Patriots I mean what were you what were you thinking about in the locker room I mean you guys deserve to be there.

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Paul Sullivan
But it's you know, the powerhouse team. You're obviously the underdogs. What was what was the mentality like before you hit the field.

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Najee Good
For man I'm coming into that game the it was Eli Electric. We had just beat the brakes out of Minnesota and we were coming back there. You know I mean when we walked into the stadium just to give you like the the scope, you know, from our point of view as we walked in and it was like bright lights, we saw bright lights on the stage, and then they started changing color.

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Najee Good
And when they changed red and blue, you got all man, because, you know, knowing that. And then when they turned out white and green, you know, it was, you know, happy in the way that it was coming out for that game and preparation. The time was like, you know, we had to we had to demolish them.

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Najee Good
You know, I, I've actually I only lost Tom Brady once and I luckily picked up one of his passes that I would never, ever, ever get rid of. But yeah, it's, and then, you know, that game was like, I mean, we, we had such a high energy from the from the fans, from the crowd. I just had my second daughter, like I says, I was like, everything was going in the right direction.

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Najee Good
And, we came out, man, and we played unbelievable football.

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Paul Sullivan
That's great. You had a couple of tackles in that game. Did you tackle Tom in that game or. No, no.

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Najee Good
I didn't get a chance to hit him. He thought a ball too fast, but I did. I had a really big I had a really big kickoff stop to start one of the quarters, where I got to hit a buddy of mine, Dion Lewis. And then I had another one on, on a second, but, second time, but no, I, I didn't get I didn't get a chance to hit him.

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Najee Good
I got a chance to hit Tom in the regular season. I know he remembers.

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Paul Sullivan
Oh, you did tell me about it. Was that that year that that.

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Najee Good
No, actually, that was in 2018. In 2018, we playing him for the Colts. Tom Brady had checked out of a blitz and I was running on the blitz, on Thursday Night Football, same game I actually got an interception off of and I ended up half of them and over one of the running backs and just doing some with all of my, my body and, and I just hit him and knocked him, knocked him down.

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Najee Good
And as he was getting up, you know, I just tired of yelling at everybody in the hall and so on. And I was like, dude, is a dream come true. Oh, yeah.

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Paul Sullivan
You and I met, over the summer. You talked about a couple of crushing hits that you put on when you told me a funny story about Aaron Rodgers. And the hit that you put on him once. When you think about, you know, some of your greatest memories from playing pro ball, what are the what what are the, you know, the top 3 or 4.

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Paul Sullivan
You know, obviously winning the Super Bowl. That's it. But some of those great plays that you still think about it. You talk about your buddies.

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Najee Good
Yeah I think man one of my biggest memories is definitely when I scored my first touchdown, it was against the New York Giants. And it was crazy. We didn't no one scored a touchdown the entire game. And I did, they actually beat us that game because we missed the extra point. It was so crazy. It was like 96 or like maybe they score.

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Najee Good
Once I was once I was out late or something like that. But, when I first scored a touchdown, I got to feel what it felt like for my dad to actually score a touchdown at Philadelphia. And that moment, it felt surreal, like, I didn't even know what to do with the ball. I don't know, I was yelling at the crowd.

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Najee Good
I know that a bite, it's a run that throw it away to pick it up. They go crazy. But, scored my first touchdown.

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Paul Sullivan
That was that. So what you're telling me now is that that linebackers don't practice their post touchdown routine? Is that what you're saying?

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Najee Good
I'm telling you right now, we did. No, I didn't. I need to get better, but I need to take some. I do some dance dance lessons, especially after what are we doing now in the league? But. No, it was it was just so fast, man. It was bang, bang. And then after that, the next memorable moment was the next year I scored another touchdown, from a block field goal.

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Najee Good
So I had another, blocked punt, and I had a scoop and score as a by a 30 yard touchdown. And, to top all that off towards my towards the end of my career and my, my seventh year, picked off Tom Brady. You know, we played him on Thursday night in New England and, got the silence to out and, it was, it was it was amazing that I, I've had some like, some, some flash players that are pretty, pretty remarkable.

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Najee Good
And, playing against Kansas City Chiefs at another one, I had a blocked punt that I was able to block, and I scored another touchdown off those, I have opportunities to get into the end zone with my teammates as a defender, which is, pretty special.

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Paul Sullivan
That's great. And I know that, you know, you score a touchdown, you probably keep the ball. But like, I'm thinking if I intercepted a pass from Tom Brady I would want to keep that ball. You have to give the ball back. Or do you get did you get to keep that ball.

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Najee Good
The I got to keep that ball. Locked in a way. Yeah. And yeah. Never get rid of man. They got the offensive name on and it even has his number. That's, you know, that some offenses do that to make sure that, you know, quarterbacks, nobody is.

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Paul Sullivan
Was going to make a deflate, gate joke, but but I'll leave that I don't know if that if Tom's, not squishy.

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Najee Good
There.

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Paul Sullivan
That.

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Najee Good
That's a was. Yeah.

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Paul Sullivan
Talk about it. So, you know, you win the Super Bowl, you got a two year old, a one year old. You still have a couple more seasons in the NFL. And what was it like? You know, balancing, you know, fatherhood and and football. I mean, there's a part a year where you're full on with football and then there's a part of the year when you're not.

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Paul Sullivan
So what was that like for you as both a, you know, a father and a and a pro football player?

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Najee Good
Man, that was it was super interesting, man. I, look at my daughters as like to church gyms, you know, to for me to the world. They're they know they said, you know, they're my angels. And when I actually had my first daughter, she's born on my birthday, living on a it was kind of crazy because she was born like, she's my, like, lucky child.

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Najee Good
She's my good luck charm. She is born literally the, right on a weekend, on a Sunday of our birthday, when our birthday was on Sunday, June 4th. We hadn't started. We had started camp yet in the middle of the season. Yeah, okay. And I was like, dang, when I'm at this camp, you know, I want to make sure I get my bonuses.

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Najee Good
You know, I want to be there for the team. All my guys. And, she actually came on their due date came in, or do they came on my birthday? I got the best birthday gift ever. And, it was awesome. I ended up going to ended up going to many camps and if and I went to many camp and that was actually, yeah, I signed play really well.

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Najee Good
Pro ball mentioned honorable mention for special teams. And, you know, it was really special to me, man. I, my brothers and I are very close. So, you know, when we when, you know, my wife and I had, Liliana, at the time, you know, we ended up finding out she was pregnant with Aria, and I was like, a whole other shot, and I was like, dude, I'm not ready for this.

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Najee Good
And it was like, you know, now, now it's two on two. And, actually, we were playing Dallas. I will never forget this. We were playing Dallas in November, November 17th is when she was born. We were playing Dallas on night on the 18th and or the 19th. And, I missed practice because I thought, you know, their mother was in labor and I missed practice.

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Najee Good
And, I'm sitting there thinking like, damn, I'm about to miss a game against Dallas. The Philly fans, they're going to kill me. They're going to tell me, yeah, let her had a baby and get the hell on and go to the game. And they go, they go going to throw everything at me when I get home. I'm not going to be welcome anywhere.

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Najee Good
My baby is going to be there. And they'll be wondering why these Philly fans are crazy. And then she came actually, right before we got on the plane. So I literally, the mom had had we had our you literally won the meetings that next day, and we got on the plane and left to go to Dallas.

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Najee Good


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Paul Sullivan
Did you win? Did you guys did you win and I won.

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Najee Good
Yeah. We won. Yeah. It was as a Super Bowl year. We beat the best out of them. Yeah.

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Paul Sullivan
That's fantastic. When you think about it, what are the biggest differences now. Like being, you know, a father you're not playing pro ball but you're an entrepreneur. We're going to get to that in a second. But what are the biggest differences for you. You know as a as a dad as a as a father now.

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Najee Good
As a father man, I think the one thing that, you know, if you care about it when you have kids, it's always a constant, you know, a reflection of, you know, who you are and what you do because you want to make the best impression. But, you know, internalizing, you know, what it means to be like a parent is, you know, it's a piece of you and, you know, it's my mirror reflection, especially having a daughter born on my birthday.

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Najee Good
I mean, it's like I'm out, you know, I argue with her now, and it's like arguing, talking to myself. So it's just like, you know, get the best and worst of both worlds. And I'm like, damn, I would have said that to me if I would've said something like that. So, you know, is, it really, you know, I, I it's to, you know, what you care about, being a mentor and mentee, constantly learning.

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Najee Good
You know, I'm real fond of learning and, you know, I think that that's really important to to kids and, like, you know, I didn't understand it until I actually had, you know, my daughters and it's funny because I'm the youngest of three, but I had my daughters the first out of my brothers and not able to have kids.

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Najee Good
But what I got to see and, you know, being a parent and like, you know, being so fond of our body, athletic movement. But athletes, you know, we understand how we move, how we stretch, how we pull. But I got to see my daughters run and wake up and roll over and, you know, just watch them develop. You know, it made me understand how blessed I am.

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Najee Good
One, because they're healthy and they can do that. And two, how important it is to nurture, because I knew how hard it was to physically perform and mentally perform and, watching them do that and watching them actually learn how to read. Now my daddy can read. I can't hide anything from her. Now, as crazy is how I try to write stuff down a lot of privacy.

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Najee Good
Notice that you know that it says it.

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Paul Sullivan
She can Rena, but can she still outrun you? Can you still tackle or can you go.

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Najee Good
Yeah, I got she can see, I can still tackle it. But she's on track right now so I gotta, I gotta watch where I'm pushing that limits. You come back. It's like saying just, but, you know, they, you know, they, they, I mean, it's it's amazing to me having a, you know, a kid and even more special, having a daughter.

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Najee Good
I grew up in a family for the boys, like 11 cousins. Aunts are boys. And I got a daughter now, so I literally don't know what else to do.

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Paul Sullivan
And your dad and your dad was a former professional football player as well. So I can only imagine, like the roughhousing in that in your home growing up.

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Najee Good
He don't know what I call my dad for advice. He like. Yeah. Just just brush your hair with a flat brush and, you know, there are some sneakers on there, and I'm like, that is. You guys, this is your granddaughter that, I can't like, go you, I, you know, rub some spit on and get out of the house.

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Najee Good
And I'm just like, shit, this is. That's what I mean. You know, it's, it's it's hilarious because my dad's even stand him now. Being around a family of all boys. My dad is the oldest, visibly so. He is very, very, very masculine. And to see him be soft because he has a granddaughter is like, you know, is the most beautiful thing in the world.

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Najee Good
Yeah.

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Paul Sullivan
Now talk to me a bit about I want to talk to a bit about you being an entrepreneur because, you know. Yeah. When you and I first met you, Tom, Vrbo totally fast. I don't want to bullshit. I want you to tell. Tell the audience about. Yeah. You know, I think is very cool, but tell listeners how where what stage it is now and how it's going to work and, you know, you have at it.

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Paul Sullivan
I want to hear you talk about because I love the idea.

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Najee Good
Yeah, yeah. So Vrbo is, a technology company, started with a few football guys, former teammates of mine, that both went to West Virginia. But what it is, is a technology company that makes media interactive, all media interactive via mobile app and website. So when anyone's viewing this, let's say this video podcast in the future and they want to click on your podcast, or maybe remember your cell and they can click on any logo, right behind us while we're watching this podcast, listening to it and actually interact with it.

00;16;43;06 - 00;17;06;16
Najee Good
And, what we found out is that, when I actually went to create the company, we presented it to the Philadelphia Eagles and said, wow, what if everything just by what they're watching? You know, get the gloves that, you know, DeAndre Hopkins caught in that famous Hail Mary, Kyler Murray or, you know, like I sit there and buy a jersey from Tom Brady from the last game that he ever played that they might have special auction.

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Najee Good
And that was actually as recent as 2015 or 16. And we came out with this idea and we integrated with the NFL and we can actually integrate across all mobile platforms. But what we saw was the next step in technology is pretty much what you see is what you get. We want to create that convenience. And it worked.

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Najee Good
And as crazy as it was, it work. And then, the Philadelphia Eagles adopted our technology. Jeffrey Lurie Right now I'm the owner. And so the Eagles exactly on in our company, and we are currently scaling across the NFL to monetize player data, to redefine name, image and likeness for players so that they have representation in the NFL as proper representation.

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Najee Good
So we can tell you more unique stories. And the best thing about it is that we can allow fancy interacting, engage with all of the videos and a great exclusive content that they view.

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Paul Sullivan
But you know, you're starting with the NFL because obviously that's what you know. But I'm I can see so many ways to expand this menu. And I talked about this. You know, if you're watching a PGA tour event, you know sure. You could I could buy your shirt, I could buy Tom Brady's shirt. But I'm only wear that so often.

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Paul Sullivan
But I could also buy, you know, a golf shirt that I could wear, you know, all the time if I wanted to. That's kind of where this technology can go. Like texting that you could see anything you like on TV and be able to buy it. Is that correct?

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Najee Good
Yeah. Yeah. And that's where we, that's where we have an edge. And, our programmers and our CEO, that's, a friend of mine really thought about our business plan intricately, and his while love and believe in our technology so much because it truly is a tool to optimize all content, whether it's golf or some of the things that have maybe dipped in ratings like NASCAR, and you watch the Daytona 500, you watch the Indy 500 when they're taking these laps around the track, you can actually sit there and not only see the logos that are on the car, but maybe see the stories behind them, or maybe actually buy a product that

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Najee Good
represents, you know, what that car is, maybe that driver is driving for. Maybe it's the actual foundation where somebody wants to donate to because they support Danica Patrick or Jeff Gordon or someone else. But, any one of these sports, any one on the fields, health and wellness, even if there's physical therapy videos or different types of Aids, ointments, any type of special treatment that you would like to see your favorite athlete or a doctor perform the right way, is really what has me excited about AI scaling and moving in the future, because what we did when we started with sports is we saw that we touched all of these businesses and at

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Najee Good
the same motto, work across all businesses. People don't want to see bubble baths. And when they engage in the content that they see or they're viewing because a lot of things are streamed, they can actually click on it and capture. And if we could do that successfully, what you've been able to do, and deliver better stories, you know, it's it's really like that next step in technology.

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Paul Sullivan
But we're talking pro sports. But you also referenced you name, image and likeness. And there's some applications here, correct. For the college athletes out there I know, I know you went to WVU.

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Najee Good
Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

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Paul Sullivan
And there. But yeah. What you're doing there with those college kids.

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Najee Good
Yeah. Yeah. So that's that that's it's actually something that I'm very proud of and we're proud of is that we have a tool like what we have created that can actually align with all of the players and the university and the businesses that want to support them to actually help them account for their when their name, image, likeness is being used.

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Najee Good
And it's actually why we invented the tool. So one player's name, image and likenesses are being used. We offer them a percentage of ownership in that data that they're actually being used to monetize that brand. And it's only right that players do so because while you're playing that school, the percentage of guys that play professional sports is less than 1% of the thousand.

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Najee Good
But when they continue to move on, they'll have different gear and data and internships shown with them. Perform it with, other you know, what that company that might sponsor.

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Paul Sullivan
Yeah. But you know, people, they automatically think of football and basketball, the big revenue sports. But I could see an application for this technology, you know, like you're down in Florida now. I mean the Florida Gators, the that women softball team, they're a big hit. You could do some of the, you know, lesser known sports and be able to still monetize it on sort of a more local level.

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Paul Sullivan
You know, I'm just thinking like the parents. Yes, into this podcast. And, you know, the kid goes off to play softball. Like, while that isn't really professional softball, but their app, their opportunities are to use this technology with the name, image, likeness in those very show.

00;21;25;15 - 00;21;41;25
Najee Good
And that's what that's what we think and what we've designed. And one of the perks of our tool is that we can design products and programs from the ground up. And just by being able to make all of the students accessible, West Virginia is funny enough, where the number one rival the team for like the past 20 years.

00;21;41;25 - 00;22;03;08
Najee Good
You don't want to run around in West Virginia with somebody with a rifle. You might say no, but, now, what's funny about it is that you have, you know, schools like that or, you know, Delaware State, which I've heard is really good in aviation, is HBCU. They have great aviation. So they have connections to companies like, you know, Lockheed Martin or American Airlines or something like that.

00;22;03;11 - 00;22;27;13
Najee Good
So schools, students, where I mean, schools where students do less conventional things can be mainstream and, and brought to the public what our application technology and is really, really important because as having daughters now being of the you know, I used to actually in my past life, I understand gymnast life and I actually data tennis before and to see how stressful and how strenuous that life is.

00;22;27;20 - 00;22;55;00
Najee Good
And then after seeing what the Olympians went through with Simone Biles and the, the Lady of Romania. I can't think of her name right now, but just to see what they went through and to show that if they had a tool like this, whether you were able to actually monetize their name and your likeness across digital media on a platform for the Olympics, you know, there's huge supporters, there's huge supporters and women, women advocating this, that I want my daughters to have as they continue to, you know, do whatever they would like to do.

00;22;55;02 - 00;23;10;09
Paul Sullivan
Yeah. It's interesting you said gymnastics because on a previous podcast, I talked to this professor at the University of Georgia, and of course, it's right before their, you know, championship run and kind of wise asked question. I said to him, professor, if I was going to buy a ticket to any sport at Georgia, not football, what would it be?

00;23;10;09 - 00;23;24;22
Paul Sullivan
And she said, gymnastics. She said the very dogs are great. And I said, well, that's interesting because you could see now using your technology for those male and female gymnasts to sort of, you know, monetize some of their, you know, their, their fame, their college fame.

00;23;24;25 - 00;23;47;07
Najee Good
Very much so. And that's where I think that where the playing field and where we see and name, image and likeness is as, really happy for us because not only behind the business that drives the transaction behind it. It's something that we can do. I mean, just like you saying the only thing that really resonates with me, not the only thing, but one of the main things that when you become a parent, you know, my my daughters, I want them to go to school.

00;23;47;09 - 00;24;11;07
Najee Good
You know, I want them to go to, like, Oxford in Germany and be super nerds. So I know God talks to them. And then I think they introduce this, you know, but, but, no, you know, for, for female, athletes or just for athletes in sports that are less, less known, you know, or bigger sports in general, you get to really see the character, you know, these athletes.

00;24;11;07 - 00;24;25;10
Najee Good
And when we went back to talk to West Virginia, we spoke to them and I told them that they were employees now, and I could candidly speak for them, you know, care. You know, this is the opportunity that you guys have to become employees, where you get to learn about finance, you get to understand tax structure, you get to understand benefits.

00;24;25;10 - 00;24;44;10
Najee Good
But while you're doing that, someone is making 100 to $200 million of your broadcast rights. You should participate in the business transactions that come with that, and you should be compensated. And we can do so in a way to where I strategically aligns with each side of the businesses, whether it's the school, the businesses, or the actual student athletes.

00;24;44;13 - 00;24;53;07
Najee Good
And, it's we're in the process of finishing that out now because in is such a white space. But, we're excited to do that across the nation.

00;24;53;10 - 00;25;09;07
Paul Sullivan
This is amazing. I'm listening to this, but the only thing I can imagine is your four daughters. You know, fast forward 15 years and they're trying to date somebody. And there you are like the 50 oh, that energy good. And the poor kid comes to the door and say, you know, I want to tackle Tom Brady. And it hurts a lot.

00;25;09;09 - 00;25;11;24
Paul Sullivan
So so be careful.

00;25;11;27 - 00;25;28;25
Najee Good
That's that's what that's the lead live. That's the only line, I can't wait for that as well as my as well. I still work out my motivational I still work out is that one day they're going to be big enough to date somebody. And I gotta be able to take that do down, and and,

00;25;28;27 - 00;25;43;06
Paul Sullivan
And energy. Good. Thank you for being a guest on the cover of dad's podcast. Final word goes to you. As you know, dads with sons and daughters, how do we properly prepare to watch the Super Bowl?

00;25;43;08 - 00;26;01;18
Najee Good
I say the best way with dads and sons and daughters. We have a 330 to 4:00 kickoff, so I will make sure you either the night before you run them around and drive them rugged until they can go to bed super late and wake up super late and get ready to take the lawns off for the Super Bowl.

00;26;01;20 - 00;26;10;09
Najee Good
Or you wake them up super early and you tune in to the Puppy Bowl and let them watch out of the dogs and everybody run around and then catch serve with the rest of the family.

00;26;10;12 - 00;26;14;05
Paul Sullivan
That's perfect. Thank you again AG. This is a lot of fun. Appreciate it.

00;26;14;07 - 00;26;16;08
Najee Good
And I thank you for awesome. Take care.