Ep. 14 | Behind the Glitz: Unraveling Black People Conspiracy Theories, Music Artist Drama, and the Impact of Social Norms

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This week the ladies discuss the thread of the week (Black people conspiracy theories (link), the music artist drama surrounding Jamie Fox, Cardi B, Lizzo, Ariana Grande & Jason Aldean, and mental health!

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Transcript

Aliya Cheyanne: 1:31

Hello? Hello? Welcome back y'all. Welcome. Welcome. It's another episode of Treat Things Podcast. Welcome back. Yeah. We're back down to two Tings today.

Tasia Marie: 1:47

This is a little trim trim thing.

Aliya Cheyanne: 1:50

A little trim to ting?

Tasia Marie: 1:51

Yes. Welcome back. Ever so far season two. How do you do?

Aliya Cheyanne: 1:57

How do you do y'all? Alright. So we wanted to kick this episode off with a little something funny today, so we're gonna get into black people can spursy thirties spread real quick. And then we're gonna talk about just a lot of the music artists drama that's been happening recently from Cardi to Lizzo to Ariana Grande to Jason Aldeen. Talk a little bit about that. And then we are gonna circle back on mental health. So Yeah. So let's get into these conspiracy theories because some of these had me cracking up. So there's a page I like on Instagram. I guess they're on Twitter too, and they get these things from Twitter, but I follow them on Instagram called black Twitter threads. So they post funny things sometimes. And they posted this conspiracy thirty one soon recently, and I thought it was kinda funny. So Let's kick off with this, okay? Yeah. So the first one says black people conspiracy theories be so annoying. And then it's like a meme of someone scratching their head, and they're like, we was Israelites, Asian Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, Moores, Chinese, Japanese, Native Americans, anything but the descendants of black Africans. And yes. Given a little contemporary right there. The next one. Sunscreen isn't four, and it'd be the same one's cracking. You know? We gotta wear sunscreen to y'all. I've been guilty of not.

Tasia Marie: 3:37

I feel a little targeted here. Like, I feel like this shit is speaking to me because I'm that nigga. Like, no, I got melanin.

Aliya Cheyanne: 3:48

I don't even know sunscreen

Tasia Marie: 3:49

and they get my back be peeling, my nose be peeling, back or head be peeling, like, this past trip set a d r. Every fucking day on the beach. Man. Last two days, I was like, I can't do the sun anymore.

Aliya Cheyanne: 4:09

Or you

Tasia Marie: 4:09

like the

Aliya Cheyanne: 4:09

motherfucker? Yo. Yo. I've been that nigga. I'm As someone who previously promoted black girls' gun sunscreen on this podcast, that's still my favorite sunscreen. But prior to that era, Yeah. Prior to that era, I really wasn't using it. Like, I instead of putting sunscreen on, I put, like, I'd always love to go to the beach. Bacon, like, a motherfucking, like, his wings, like. Because I'd be like, whoa. I want a tad. I'm trying to get a dark language. So I definitely went through that. It narrant era, but, yeah, we need to wear sunscreen. Like, we are not immune. Like, yes, the sun does feed us it, like, our melanin loves it. Yes, but we also have to protect ourselves because black people can get skin cancer too.

Tasia Marie: 5:02

Man.

Aliya Cheyanne: 5:02

Black people get sunburn too. So Police wear it on screen.

Tasia Marie: 5:06

It's me. I'm web blind people.

Aliya Cheyanne: 5:09

Okay. This one's kinda dark. Mhmm. Nickers were saying Quavo and Offset sacrificed take off for fucking with for fucking what dude. And then it says the responses remedial ass niggas was on here saying DC young fly, sack Vice's mother of his children for a Netflix special. That one's

Tasia Marie: 5:27

a bizarre. I remember those though. Exactly. Yeah. Really? All this special shit, just like Aliyah was sacrificed for was it name or was it j z? Because

Aliya Cheyanne: 5:39

one of them. Some of them. It only

Tasia Marie: 5:42

j z. I'm on the up and up. Like but it's always some, like, someone was sacrificed for this person, like, when mics MOM Pest. I'm saying that her mom was a sacrifice. Like,

Aliya Cheyanne: 5:56

people said that about Kanye's mom too.

Tasia Marie: 5:59

Whose mom?

Aliya Cheyanne: 6:00

Kanye's mom that she was very

Tasia Marie: 6:02

impressed too. Like but I don't know. All these people I don't know, man. That was totally But I definitely remember them saying that about DC Young Fly, and I was like, that's the most fucked up thing that you could say.

Aliya Cheyanne: 6:18

Right.

Tasia Marie: 6:19

This just made headings. Right. Like, that little boy just turned one. I remember when I saw that joint, like, the news flash. I was like, Jackie, oh, what? Oh, no. Like, it really It's like who? Oh, no. Like, she literally just had a baby. That was the first thing I said, that's wild man.

Aliya Cheyanne: 6:40

Yeah. That news broke while I was on the unruly retreat. In the water, Danson on the beach with the Unruly sisters in Sheila, and the news broke and it changed the whole tone. Of of that. Right. Like, we really had a moment to be like and and the way she passed, like, Right. We really had a moment to be like these beauty standards, the way, like, women feel about themselves, especially after having a baby and, like, their urgency, it's, like, get bodies get their body back to quote quote unquote what it was. Snap back. Like, it's literally killing killing us. Like, it's crazy.

Tasia Marie: 7:20

Pregnancy is already a tumultuous event for us. Girl,

Aliya Cheyanne: 7:27

Well, I feel like this next one is also a little dark, but I mean, this one is like all these celebrities sacrificed their family members. They wasn't really on that submarine.

Tasia Marie: 7:39

That's me. I think somebody

Aliya Cheyanne: 7:41

must be. Just a Monday that we hit on the the summer eve. Nope. That shit. They wasn't on

Tasia Marie: 7:49

that boat, like a summer eve. Lord forgive me.

Aliya Cheyanne: 7:53

Yeah. Correct. They'd be low on steroids. We And It's a low ten dog y'all. Oh,

Tasia Marie: 8:07

no from Friday. Sparky.

Aliya Cheyanne: 8:10

It's, like, decked out and, like, whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. The next one. Oh, my dad referred to doctor Umer as brother Umer.

Tasia Marie: 8:25

Brother-in-law.

Aliya Cheyanne: 8:29

I forgot what the whole I Lord forgive me. I completely forgot what the whole debacle was while we canceled him low key. Like, I think he was trying to build up some school and some stuff was coming out about him and Right? It was like, no. We can't anymore. Beyond the whole temporary.

Tasia Marie: 8:45

Something something along those lines.

Aliya Cheyanne: 8:49

Something happened.

Tasia Marie: 8:49

It had a quick rise and fall.

Aliya Cheyanne: 8:52

But he's kind of making a little resurgence again, like, being on podcast. Like, you know, the whole thing with Sukiana, like, him responding. Like, he's getting a little bit of attentioning in. I will I will say the only clip I've liked of him recently was him going on a podcast cast into demolishing the men that were on there because they were basically trying to say something along the lines of, like, it's it's women's fault, like black women's fault, why there are so many, like, single mothers and, you know, like, broken families and, like, all the like, he was they were putting it on women and talking about how women black women are becoming more masculine. This is on a third. Like, now going in and he, like, single handedly demolished, like, all three or four of them. And was like, no. No. Brother, like, That's the only little clip I like recently because I feel like he humbled them a bit. So I'm not gonna do on that one. Good. This one was funny. The December twenty first black people will get super superpowers. It was kinda funny. It was. But you don't you don't remember that? There was, like, you don't remember if it was, like, an astrology thing or what? But I think it was, like, a couple years ago now. They were saying, like, December twenty first, like, because of something that was happening astrologically with the transits and stuff, like black people were opposed to, like, come into our superpowers. Like, be our hot yeah. Our our highest selves are, like, the memes went crazy. The memes went crazy. It was funny. Like, it was funny. Remember this. Oh my gosh. That that was funny. Like, This nigga smile is funny. I'm not gonna lie. Yeah. You think it was funny. Okay. Alright. I'm talking about this one. My mama my mama love trying to convince me tupac and Michael Jackson. I'm living underground somewhere. I remember the black women are supposed to have periods error. I don't remember that period.

Tasia Marie: 10:53

Everybody's dead.

Aliya Cheyanne: 10:54

I don't I don't remember that shit at all, but I'll be a part of that. Girl. I would have to get blown away again, as I said last episode. But, yeah, the two o'clock not being dead one was interest day? I'm not gonna hold you when I was a teenager. Yes. I definitely bought into that. I was like, what if he's really just, like, living somewhere else? What if he really No.

Tasia Marie: 11:25

He didn't in queue.

Aliya Cheyanne: 11:27

Yeah. I'm not gonna lie. In my teenage years, I was really ignorant, but there are still some people that believe that conspiry, theory, like, people on the Internet think they're detectives. So there are people who are, like, analyzing the the supposed last picture that was taken and saying how, like, a key wasn't in the ignition. It was shook my in two pockets picture in the car and there was no key in the mission, but someone supposedly took the picture on the road and it's like, well, how are they driving anywhere if there's no key in the ignition. I was like, okay. Well, I don't know if that's true or not. Like, maybe maybe the image people are using for that is like a doctored photo. I don't know about that. There are some people who are, like, apparently for the autopsy, like his height and weight weren't accurate for what he actually was when he passed, like, it it said something about him being, like, forty pounds more than he was and him being taller than he was on the autopsy report. Again, this is what the conspiracy theorist are saying. This is not me saying this. So there was that whole piece. And then, apparently, there's something about how the what do you call the people at the Morgan?

Tasia Marie: 12:43

Morticians?

Aliya Cheyanne: 12:45

Right. Something. Yeah. Thank you. Apparently, the I guess, the mortician who, like, just like Was involved with the body, apparently, was paid a lot of money, and they disappeared after the whole thing with like, dropped off the grid after the whole thing, like, oh, there's the whole deep dive on this. And people who still kind of believe this, so That one that one had I didn't know all of that at the time when I was a teenager, but that one had me in a little grip when I was a teenager. I don't believe it now. But back then, I was convinced he was still alive somewhere.

Tasia Marie: 13:21

That's why I was like, that sounds very convincing though, like, what? They do what? That was us. But also, I'm not gonna lie when I was so probably died and went. Ninety six.

Aliya Cheyanne: 13:35

Whatever year it was on the kid kid.

Tasia Marie: 13:38

Ninety seven? I don't remember what year exactly. But I do know that there was this website site, and the website had, like, all these celebrity autopsy photos. Mhmm. And it was a picture of two box, all topsy on there. Mhmm. And it looked really fake. Mhmm. Like, it just looked really fake the way that he was cut on the body. It just kinda looked like a wax figure. So then we'll also feed into that whole light. Two pack a lot.

Aliya Cheyanne: 14:10

He died in ninety six.

Tasia Marie: 14:12

Ninety six. Yeah. Yeah. His biggie died in ninety seven the year after.

Aliya Cheyanne: 14:21

Crazy. That one was crazy. Right? So I was joking about this one. Oh, you wanna say something else? No. Oh, I don't say I was joking about this one before we started recording. But when we're talking about hot tips. But the next one on this thread says we used to be green kills me every time. I've heard that one before, like, the whole chlorophyll thing. Wow. So this one, it continues to say basically they claim we used to eat nothing but green foods, so we were green. I used to be a little hotel back then. I realized it's just black men wanting power over people, especially black women and black queer people. I'm so embarrassed from myself.

Tasia Marie: 15:01

The moment you awakened. Right. Damn.

Aliya Cheyanne: 15:06

The last one. Everything that goes against the norm is demonic. She heard that a lot from church.

Tasia Marie: 15:12

She's like Listen.

Aliya Cheyanne: 15:14

Listen. That was the thread. I guess the other conspiracy theory that we were gonna mention is We recently watched The Clone Island,

Tasia Marie: 16:21

fucking amazing movie. Yo. Go watch it. I watched it again yesterday for the second time and I'm about to put it on again today because I just keep nitpicking it. Like, that shit is so true. Like, I'm telling you, I I'm gonna tell my students to go watch it.

Aliya Cheyanne: 16:39

Mhmm.

Tasia Marie: 16:41

Like, it's true. Y'all cloned in a pimp. What he say, the guy was like a pimp, a drug dealer, and a whole walk into a bucket for it.

Aliya Cheyanne: 16:50

A lab. Yeah. What did he say? I don't even remember what he said. We're verbatim. But

Tasia Marie: 16:54

Right. And I was just like, wow. Like, you think about it. How was cocaine introduced to the hood? The government flooded the hoods with cocaine, how were guns introduced to the hood? The government flooded the hood with guns. Like, they facts. Our own is on some real shit. Like, that movie is fucking amazing. And if you haven't seen it yet, you need to go ahead and watch it because it's really speaking volumes.

Aliya Cheyanne: 17:19

Yeah.

Tasia Marie: 17:19

Like, I Yeah. We were talking about this before. We started recording. But like I said, j z like, got that perfect line. Do you know why they call a project a project because it's a project and experiment and wearing it only as objects? Mhmm. Like, That's it. Mhmm. They want to keep us where we are.

Aliya Cheyanne: 17:40

Yeah. And it's like you were saying before too, like, the differences you notice in different communities like which communities have the most liquor stores, which communities like you see the most homelessness in because that was also something that was featured in the show too in the movie too. Mhmm. I started by saying that introducing it as a conspiracy theory thing because that also saw some people being like, wait a minute. Jamie. Why are you trying to tell us something blink twice? Who does Newman? And even when he went on Instagram to, like, make that little video, like, the promo around the movie like he even said in the little video reintroducing himself back to the world after being sick, critically sick, he was like, no. I'm not a clone. He's just like Mhmm. But I did I did really like the movie. I I'm not gonna hold you. When they was in there fucking some shit up, Oh, this is gonna be a spoiler. Sorry. Skip this if you didn't watch it yet. But when they eventually get down to the underground and the hole hood rises up, it starts fucking some shit up. Man.

Tasia Marie: 18:58

I'm sitting there like, yes.

Aliya Cheyanne: 19:00

This is what I wanna real life. Like, I mean, like, we got a united system. We gotta disrupt the system. We gotta unite against a common enemy. Like, it's not just it's not just us versus us. It's us versus them. Like, This is not a joke. Like, we need to start fucking some shit up and rebelling, but it also made me think about something that Sheila Marie shared in her stories recently. Which is not related to this completely, but the idea kind of stands. It's just like, what happens when a group of people basically Rebel against the status quo, they throw the people who are currently in power out. What then happens? Essentially, it's a transference of power, but essentially a new group eventually rises to power again. Like, there's never There's never complete, like, balance. There's never complete eradication of certain, like, ideologies or beliefs or, like, ways of doing things. It's always one group kind of replacing another. So it also made me think about that. The other thing that Lokey had me fucked up was when the the doctor guy, like, the older version of fun. Yeah. Was good. And and the the tanks in the back with the hue of different race. I was just like this imagery the fact that y'all decided to make older fontaine, the villain in this in this thing -- Mhmm. -- I I just thought that was interesting. Messaging. But in the ending, I won't see what happened, but the way it ended. I was just, like,

Tasia Marie: 20:44

it has to be another one. It has to be another one where we go deeper.

Aliya Cheyanne: 20:50

And they go, but it also makes me think like the same way we watch Outland this shit on the news and we just be chilling until it really hits that, oh, this shit not for fake. This is real.

Tasia Marie: 21:04

Right. Like like a pandemic.

Aliya Cheyanne: 21:07

Girl, that moment, I was just like, this is interesting. Man. Watch the movie all.

Tasia Marie: 21:15

Yeah. They clones that wrong. Ten out of ten. Run tomatoes. I think they got a hundred percent and run tomatoes be giving nobody.

Aliya Cheyanne: 21:22

Great. A hundred percent. Wow. Yeah. Very true.

Tasia Marie: 21:26

That was a very amazing amazing movie, relatable, current, like, Jamie Foxes character. What's his name, slick? Shit.

Aliya Cheyanne: 21:38

Slakes Slakes whatever. The Pimp. We know. But

Tasia Marie: 21:41

Wait. His character is hilarious.

Aliya Cheyanne: 21:43

He said, oh, man. Let's stick goes to haunt a pimp. Or or even just showing the range of his talent because there's a scene where they're in the church oh, don't even get me started on the church scene. Yeah. This mean Girl, wait. But there's a scene in Right. But there's a scene in the church where after it cleared out and it's just the three of them left,

Tasia Marie: 22:12

the music.

Aliya Cheyanne: 22:13

I thought at first the music was just, like, completely just background. But then the camera pans and it's him playing the organ or whatever. I was, like, okay. Shout out to y'all for showing his range. Right. Like, as in the head to be

Tasia Marie: 22:26

knocking up, though. Because when the camera pan him and the music stopped, I was like, what the fuck? Think I thought there was a damn movie music.

Aliya Cheyanne: 22:33

Right? But the check scene --

Tasia Marie: 22:36

Right.

Aliya Cheyanne: 22:36

Oh. -- the check scene.

Tasia Marie: 22:38

That chain was real, though.

Aliya Cheyanne: 22:41

It's real, but it's also, like, an over you know, like, a heightened, over exaggerated version. Like a buddy's little bit. It was very real. But when I was really listening to what the pastor was saying, you could be about to lose your home. You could be about to lose your job and, like, go, you could be old something else he said that was just ridiculous and everybody was just up, like, chanting and carrying on. And then the song that really got everybody up and started dancing. Is it just me or was it like a slow joke? Yeah. Okay. No. You fucking lie bitch. I was like, I'm going for a lie. It was a youth day. They had to appeal to the younger kids. Girl, I was just like, there's no way.

Tasia Marie: 23:37

Yeah. That was a really that was a really good movie. That was a really amazing movie. Like, for me to be sitting here, like, yeah, I think I'm a put that on after we finish here. You know, in the background as I'm lesson planning, but it was a really good movie because I definitely I told you yesterday, I was out on my backyard balcony. It's my backyard.

Aliya Cheyanne: 23:57

Yes. Yes.

Tasia Marie: 23:59

You know, niggas who live in the city, they really got in apartments, they ain't got no backyard. That balcony is your backyard. But I was chilling in my backyard, less than planning, and I definitely had it playing on my iPad. Like, until I had to start using my iPad. But yeah. Like, I'm definitely definitely watching it again. That was an amazing movie. That's one of those movies. That's gonna be What what did they call it? When they rated it, they kept saying it was it was something. But Oh, a classic. Is definitely gonna be one of those classic movies. Yeah.

Aliya Cheyanne: 24:42

Sidebar, I was gonna say, so I finally got my own Netflix account.

Tasia Marie: 24:46

Holy shit. Wait. Did it Of him. Pages.

Aliya Cheyanne: 24:49

Out of mine? No. It didn't. But I was, like, I don't I don't know. I just didn't want any issues, so I just I went ahead and got my own. But after the fact because I was like, this is so annoying. I wish I could, like instead of just starting over from scratch, I wish I could just transfer my profile. I didn't realize you could transfer your profile. Oh. Yeah. You can. Like, from from online, I don't know that it lets you do that directly. Like, in the TV, but you can when when you log in on the back end online. Because when I set up my own account and I was doing my profile and it automatically gives you, like, a kid's profile whatever. Yeah. You can't transfer kids profiles. But, like, adult profiles in the settings, there's an option transfer profiles. So after I saw that for me, after I had created the account, I was so pissed because I was like, damn it. I transferred my profile from on your account and, like, have my my shit set up. I, like, I took a screenshot before I got rid of my profile and I was, like, hey, this is what I'm interested in watching. These are like my some of my likes. Let me just try to re get the rhythm here because I don't want Netflix recommending no dumb shit I would never watch. Right.

Tasia Marie: 26:06

But it's well problems, man. That shit is real. Like, I remember when, you know, Sean was watching shit on my Netflix, and I used to get mad at her. Like, nigga, I created an account for you. Like, just stop going into mine. I don't watch to sit, then she watch. Hey.

Aliya Cheyanne: 26:24

No. Yeah.

Tasia Marie: 26:26

No. That's that's tough.

Aliya Cheyanne: 26:29

Girl. Listen. Alright. So music artists drama. So I didn't put this one in the notes but there's also been some recent drama with Jamie Fox and Jennifer Aniston because I guess he posted like black colloquialism and she misinterpreted it as anti semitism. And he's gone on But she apologized. She did like it, and then I don't know what happened in between there, but people are accusing him now being anti semitic, and he had to, like, apologize for it. So now people are calling for her to do a public apology to him because of that, and I'm just like, this is what happens when you don't have any black friends or, like, you don't have anybody around you to tell you this has nothing to do. With you, this has nothing to do with Jewish people. This is a saying in the black community that a lot of people are familiar with. Like, the audience it was intended for, got it, and the rest of y'all are up in arms. So That's one little piece of drama. What else happened recently? Cardi b.

Tasia Marie: 27:41

Oh, man. She got off though. They dismissed all those charges. Good. And definitely, performers do have a right to defend themselves. I don't know what the fuck happened after the pandemic, but, like, we were so authentic and so like, we were loving on each other in twenty twenty, and then we got back into these streets and it's like fuck everyone now. Like, why are you paying money to go to a performance and oh shit at someone who you just paid money to see? Like, it don't even make sense. But I did hear yesterday. So apparently, I had a few concerts before. Cardi was telling people to throw water on her because she was hot. However, at that particular concert, she did not say no water on me. Mhmm. Because she ain't say she was hot or anything. She was legit about getting ready to perform. And the girl intentionally threw that up. Like, I don't even know why she pressed charges. Like, that that was for clout trying to get some money real quick. Yeah. I'm glad that judge dismissed those charges because farmers have rights too. Like, they're doing their job. They have to be protected as well. Did you see that picture of Alicia Keys' son, light standing, light security while she was on stage playing?

Aliya Cheyanne: 28:52

He No.

Tasia Marie: 28:55

Like, he legit had his crocs on and a little jacket on, and he was just standing there looking at the crowd like, I did one of y'all naked owe some shit at my mom.

Aliya Cheyanne: 29:03

Oh, I need to go look that picture up. I heard I heard the thing about her in previous instances asking people to throw whatever, but that that was not the case this time. I'm like, listen, I'm in I'm in full support of that response. Like, if it were me, If it were me, don't throw nothing at me, don't get too close to me, don't touch me, don't say no wow dash, shit to me. Like I think Mhmm.

Tasia Marie: 29:39

No. Go ahead. Go ahead. I'm sorry.

Aliya Cheyanne: 29:40

Oh, I was just gonna say, like, there's level of difference too when you have that much like wealth and influence because I can I'll be very honest with you. I don't wanna go to jail. So, like, in certain instances where something is happening to me and I'm, like, enraged, I still have to hold myself together so that I don't respond in a way that's insane. Like, it makes me think about an incident I had with a previous car while I was trying to, like, get into a next lane, like, taking my time, like, going from all the way from from the left to get all the way to the right. And this white guy that was driving a minivan was being very impatient behind me. I couldn't get over. And, like, when I had inched over a little bit more. He tried to squeeze the big ass minivan between the car and then there's like a, you know, concrete barrier. Between the road or whatever. He tried to squeeze, so he definitely brushed against the car and rubbed me. Mhmm. So I got out. It was a whole thing. When he got out, I would when he when I got out, I was, like, what you know, like, why would you do that? Like, why wouldn't you just wait until I got over? What's going on? I'm taking pictures of his license, his car, everything. And then he gets out and he's yelling at me and calling me all kinds of names. And all kinds of shit. And I'm by myself. And somebody is driving by and they witnessed it, but of course, they didn't stop to help me. They witnessed and they yelled out the window and they're like, don't let him get away with that because he was in the wrong. And I'm trying to, like, rectify the situation appropriately. Meanwhile, he's calling me all kinds of names. And I'm the same to myself. Don't lose it. You're black. You're by yourself.

Tasia Marie: 31:23

Yeah.

Aliya Cheyanne: 31:23

Don't lose it. You're black here by yourself. When I tell you, I was so enraged like I called my dad after the whole thing after I had, you know, gotten out of the middle of the road. And I was crying, but I wasn't crying because I was, like, I was crying because I was mad. I was crying because I would like to have responded a different way. But I didn't wanna go to jail. Right. So listen.

Tasia Marie: 31:55

I feel

Aliya Cheyanne: 31:55

you When people do a different Wow. Shit. It is what it is.

Tasia Marie: 32:00

Yeah. You you can't, like I hate to say it, but tit for tat. Listen. But I woulda hit her with the Nino Brown. Hey. Cancel that bitch. Get her out of the crowd. Like, I woulda had security mover ass out. But, you know, sometimes your first

Aliya Cheyanne: 32:19

reaction. Your first

Tasia Marie: 32:20

reaction is not always your best reaction.

Aliya Cheyanne: 32:24

Not at all.

Tasia Marie: 32:24

Sometimes you don't It just sometimes, you just be CCG.

Aliya Cheyanne: 32:30

Must say

Tasia Marie: 32:30

Cardi Cardi is CCD. She's trained to go. So only even understand why you would do that. That was why you

Aliya Cheyanne: 32:38

she responded more quickly than her security team because I'm just like, I'm

Tasia Marie: 32:43

just like, wait, what the fuck? That was your mic nigga. Oh. Oh. Right. Like, I watched

Aliya Cheyanne: 32:50

a clip a couple times and there was one guard in particular that was kinda stent. Like, it happened faster than he for the register, I think. I was just, like, oh, okay. Well

Tasia Marie: 32:59

because he looks you just threw your my oh, shit. I need to get her. Okay. I'm to get her. But yeah. She she responded to that real quick. Performers definitely have a right to defend themselves. They are human beings just like we are. And again, I'll understand why you're paying money to come in a tax someone that you just paid to see unless you throw in, like, draws or bras on stage. And even that's still a little weird. Not a little. It's a lot weird. But, like, why are you throwing whole objects? Who was that girl who, like, actually got a black eye and had to get stitches? It was a performer.

Aliya Cheyanne: 33:39

I don't know. Yes. I don't think I heard about that I don't think I heard about that one.

Tasia Marie: 33:48

You know, it leaves a laugh like that. But, like, she they hit her good. Like, It they hit her good. And I think it was in New York too. Bebe Rexa? Bebe Rexa.

Aliya Cheyanne: 34:01

There you go. Bibi. I've never heard of this person before in my life.

Tasia Marie: 34:06

Me either, but she has a huge fan following. And they got her ass good. Like A fan

Aliya Cheyanne: 34:13

chunk of the phone at her -- Yeah. -- her during a concert.

Tasia Marie: 34:17

Unacceptable. Like, that person needs charges. I think they actually did catch the person who did it.

Aliya Cheyanne: 34:23

It says man was arrested

Tasia Marie: 34:26

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And he deserves all charges. Like, that's a seldom battery.

Aliya Cheyanne: 34:31

Oh, no.

Tasia Marie: 34:31

Speaking of his seldom battery. Allegedly. Let's make sure we put that allegedly in. Lizzo has been making a few rounds this week in social media. Mhmm.

Aliya Cheyanne: 35:24

Not in

Tasia Marie: 35:25

only in social media, but in news period. Did you wanna speak on that?

Aliya Cheyanne: 35:31

Facts. Yeah. So some of her former employees are bringing a lawsuit against her alleging toxic work environment. Physical, emotional, sexual abuse allegedly. And I know I've been getting bits and pieces from all over the place because some things have been flying around really, really quickly and really fast. But I think one of the things around it that made the most headlines was the banana bar like, the banana bar situation and story with dancer being coerced to eat a banana out of someone's vagina And I've been hearing hearing different things about that. Like, I guess, she is saying that she was forced to do it. Some people are saying, like, you know, she was encouraged to do it, but she still had the autonomy to say no. But I guess she felt like she didn't want to say no or couldn't say no because her boss was encouraging it. There's a lot of peer pressure in the room to do it. So there's that. Apparently, one of them feels like they were let or all of them, one of them feels like they were let go because of they because they gained weight. Which her, you know, she has dancers of varying sizes, like some of them are more plus size than others, but I think maybe there is some sort of standard set around how big a a person could be, I guess, and supposedly in

Tasia Marie: 37:11

the interject really quickly. Yeah. Like, as far as the weight gain goes, like, you're also still a performer. So you still have to be able to get on stage and, like, move and be agile. So I'm not gonna say it was okay because, like you said, she does have performance of all different sizes. But you know, it's probably a particular, like, weight class, kinda like boxing, you know. You go above that, then boom, you're in a whole another class. Probably something like that. Oh, no.

Aliya Cheyanne: 37:45

Probably. But I think either way part of it was, like, around the delivery more than anything else. Maybe it's part of the problem. So I think there are a bunch of other things in included in that whole situation that I'm just not privy to, but I know that it's not looking good. Like, the whole banana bar story came out and then people like the detectives they are when in dug up a clip of her being on a a podcast or radio show or something talking about -- Oh, yeah. -- experience out of banana bar, I think in Amsterdam or somewhere. Talking about the fact that she which I heard something that was kinda contradictory. Like, apparently, one of the allegations or claims is around her kind of forcing this idea around them or, like, trying to in indoctrinate them or or forced them into the ideology that they shouldn't have premarital sex, but at the same time is very, like, sexually expressive. So I was like, what is going on here? I'm I'm confused about

Tasia Marie: 38:45

Right.

Aliya Cheyanne: 38:46

This, I don't really understand, but, yeah, it's not it's not looking good for Lizzo. I know a lot of people were not really happy with her apology. I personally read her apology on Instagram. Not apology. Sorry. Her acknowledgment because it wasn't an apology. I read her acknowledgement on Instagram and I was just kinda like, this feels very dry and disconnected. I understand why sometimes don't people don't rush to apologize because they feel like in doing so is an admission of guilt.

Tasia Marie: 39:20

Of guilt.

Aliya Cheyanne: 39:21

At the same time, I think that acknowledging that harm happened like, I feel like her response could have been I don't know. It just felt like cold and a little robotic to me, and I don't know if she wrote it. I don't know if her team wrote it. I don't know. But it just didn't it it felt a little disconnected. For me personally. And at the same time, this whole thing has brought up another question around just how differently we treat people because when men in some instances are accused of like that or worse, we give them a lot of grace sometimes. Like, we were all shook and shocked when Jonathan majors got accused of strangulation. We're just, like, not this nigga. No. Like, you know, like, when Johnny Depp was going through his whole case with the ex girlfriend, like, people were very supportive of Johnny Depp and, like, oh, you know, the girl is a liar. Don't get me started on Bill Cosby. Nobody wanted to believe that pill Cosby was out here drugging and sexually assaulting women. It was, like, He was yeah, girl. He was trying to he was trying to buy a network. You can't take this black man down, like, you know, like so it's just very different attitudes when it's men versus women. I think especially for Lizzo, like Lizzo has face her whole career being, like, fat ashamed?

Tasia Marie: 40:58

Yes.

Aliya Cheyanne: 41:00

And, like, striving to be palatable to a very fat phobic society, a very anti black society. So it's like this has come out now and a lot of people are unleashing -- Mhmm. -- a level of, like yeah. A level of, like, hate and and discussed in, like, nastiness toward her that we don't usually unleash to other women in similar situations or men. So That's also been a layer of this, but what I do know is that it's not looking great. We live in a society now. People can super anything like I like everything and everything. And I just hope that we have to see how things pan out with the case. Like, we have to give it time to see that, but I I hope that repair does happen in that situation between everyone because, like, some of these accusations are, like, kinda wild. Yeah. Yeah. And I just I don't know how it's gonna play it out. We're gonna have to wait and see, but it's been crazy.

Tasia Marie: 42:09

This is kinda off topic.

Aliya Cheyanne: 42:11

Mhmm. And I

Tasia Marie: 42:11

forgot to ask you about it. Tina Knowles, the uncle's mom. She recently filed a divorce and her husband Lawson. What's his name? What's his

Aliya Cheyanne: 42:23

name again? Yeah. His I

Tasia Marie: 42:26

know his daughter's name is Bianca. Anyway, did you see what he was liking apparently Richard Lawson. Richard Lawson eight. And apparently, like, his sweater, like,

Aliya Cheyanne: 42:41

got Yeah. I saw something about that girl.

Tasia Marie: 42:44

Did you ever see, like, what he actually like?

Aliya Cheyanne: 42:47

Are we gonna name it? I'm here.

Tasia Marie: 42:50

No. I I wanna see some of the stuff that he like. Oh, is it like I didn't Okay.

Aliya Cheyanne: 42:56

Well, I didn't actually, like, go and, like, look specifically at his legs because apparently when his legs were coming out, I think he either deactivated or or did some things like you couldn't see anymore. But apparently, he was, like, in all kinds of stuff like big, black. Women? Mhmm. Yeah, girl. Allegedly. Oh. He was liking stuff like that and other things. Allegedly. I didn't I did not see this myself. Allegedly, people who saw the things he was lacking before he either deactivated or deleted his account or whatever, were saying he was liking stuff along that nature allegedly. So because I was like

Tasia Marie: 43:45

I was I was trying to see what he was liking. As you know, Tucker was in an odd world before it became x. And now it's even Otter, but, like, Otter is in. You would just be scrolling down your timeline and you'd see a dig just going into a pussy.

Aliya Cheyanne: 43:59

Girl.

Tasia Marie: 44:00

Just on the regular.

Aliya Cheyanne: 44:02

There's a whole, like, side of Twitter slash x. That's, like, just dedicated to, like, porn industry and, like, sex workers and stuff, which I learned about recently from another podcast because a sex worker was on the podcast. And I was just like, oh, this is very interesting. Oh, I didn't know. I don't even be on there like that. I look at, like, three people when I'm on there.

Tasia Marie: 44:26

That makes sense now. I really don't go in there. The only time I go in there is when it's like a story and it's linked to Twitter.

Aliya Cheyanne: 44:34

We have twins now.

Tasia Marie: 44:36

Yeah. Treads.

Aliya Cheyanne: 44:39

Yeah. So All that to say. It's a lot going on in the music world now. We won't get into all the details about this, but Yeah. This whole situation with Ariana Grande. Hey. Her announcing her divorce and yeah. After it just only been, like, a couple years, but I thought it was interesting because I saw a particular Post, Chronicalized, what's the word? Chronicalized. The order of many of her relationships and a lot of the allegations that have happened in and around them, like, people she's cheated on when in certain relationships, people she's double backed with, when in certain relationships. Like, one a couple of the ones that stood out the most is, like, you know, God rest, McMillers, Seoul, but apparently, like, when they were dating, there were some allegations her cheating on him, and eventually later on down the line, they get back together. And then, you know, she had a stint with Big Sean. And then in twenty nineteen, I think there were some allegations around you know, after they had broken up her potentially cheating with him while she while he was with Janine AECO, So there was that. And then now more recently with her recent divorce, someone she's been spotted with, and I forget the guy's name because I Don't know him. Don't care. Not like I know Ariana either, to be honest.

Tasia Marie: 46:13

Right.

Aliya Cheyanne: 46:13

We don't know any of them. We're just offering thoughts and comments. But allegedly, the big

Tasia Marie: 46:18

of these songs.

Aliya Cheyanne: 46:20

Been spotted with now is also getting divorced and there are accusations that they were, like, cheating together on their spouses. During their marriage, it's just a little messy. And I want us to talk about this on a on a different episode in the future, but just like I think people gotta get clear on, like, what they want and, like, what their relationship styles are. And if you are not committed to being, like, with one person. If that's not your thing, like -- Eighteen. -- more people in your life, like, if you're not satisfied and you're you're considering opening up your situation or stepping out whatever, like, have conversations Like, shit. It's crazy.

Tasia Marie: 47:09

Like, shit. Communication. That's it.

Aliya Cheyanne: 47:12

Like, y'all gotta be on the same page. Like, it's just messy.

Tasia Marie: 47:17

Man, wait, speaking about relationships and being on the same page, I was up in the random wee hours of the morning again this morning. Okay, perusing through Instagram. And I saw this meme, not a meme. It was a post, but it was a woman. And apparently, she discovered that her husband had cheated on her. And she was like, you know, why I was sitting here being faithful faithful to you. You don't think I wanted to fuck other niggas? So here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna stay together. We're gonna have a happy marriage and a happy life for our daughter.

Aliya Cheyanne: 47:52

When

Tasia Marie: 47:52

I'm gonna fuck who I wanna fuck and you're gonna fuck who you wanna and we're not gonna talk about it. But when we're in this house, we're gonna be a happy family. And that's that. I was like, oh, hey, interested in communication. If that is what works for your relationship, that's what works for your relationship. But again, like, open communication. Like, I never understand like cheating. Just leave.

Aliya Cheyanne: 48:19

Yeah. I'm gonna keep my mouth shut on that part. But I will say that kind of reminded me of this recent and I was gonna say this for another day, but we hear about that announcement recently with former mayor New York City mayor de Blasio's --

Tasia Marie: 48:40

Oh, okay. -- about

Aliya Cheyanne: 48:41

him and his wife how they're gonna stay in the same house. They're gonna stay, like, legally married, I guess, but they're going to date other people. Mhmm. And some people are like, listen. We do not care. He misused funds for the police force. Like, this this stuff trying to be relevant. Like, he'll never be president. Like, all these things. And then the other hand, other people are like, no. Like, we need to start having honest conversations about what relationship dynamics work for families, for households, like, that's a whole another thing too, like splitting assets.

Tasia Marie: 49:17

Yeah.

Aliya Cheyanne: 49:18

Maybe that works for them financially to do that. Because it's

Tasia Marie: 49:22

easy to keep

Aliya Cheyanne: 49:23

up with that. Yes. It might be easier to do that than to go through an actual, like, divorce process. So I just think that and I feel like term terms like non binary triggers people, but we often, like, think in a binary way that it has to be one way. And there are a lot of people who are showing us like you can have relationship styles that are out of the box and not necessarily out of the box in the way that we think that they are because a lot of relationship styles have always existed. We've just been indoctrinated to think that there's only one way, one right way to do things. And That's not working for a lot of people anymore. Like, people have to do what works for them. Worried about you -- Mhmm. -- any year relationship and what works for you and your relationship is really nobody else's business.

Tasia Marie: 50:15

End of the day. End of the day, just have open communication with your person.

Aliya Cheyanne: 50:21

With your person. And if y'all need a couples therapist or, like, your own individual therapy, sure. But, like, like, let in the whole world know everything all the time, like Mm-mm. They don't always serve you. Yeah. Like, don't always serve serve you. Yeah. I guess I'm the last bit for the music portion. And this might feel a little bit like old news now, but Jason Aldeens try that in a small town, which a lot of people are calling a sun downtown Anthem or, like, a white nationalist anthem.

Tasia Marie: 51:00

I swear to sound like to me.

Aliya Cheyanne: 51:02

Girl, I was thinking about this the other day too. I was like, what country songs do I even know or care about? Like, even having spent a few small years living in Arkansas, like, bands What country songs do I even know about or care about? And there's not that many at all, like, one one of the ones that even comes to mind, most specifically, is Carrie Underwoods' song, where she's like, you know what I'm talking about?

Tasia Marie: 51:32

I just I know her name.

Aliya Cheyanne: 51:35

It's it's the one where she's like, well, I dug my key into the side of his pretty little suit up. Or wheel drive. No? No. Car out of programming. Two is, let us see. Okay, bro. You're gonna fuckish it up. Before he cheats. And that's, like, the only one people. So otherwise, I don't really care. Yeah. Carry on to what's going on.

Tasia Marie: 51:57

I need to start listening to a little bit more country.

Aliya Cheyanne: 52:00

Yeah. That's like that's like the only one I really know. Oh. That honk at all, but don't go down. Don't ask me this thing's that, but that was what? I don't know. There's only a couple that I know, but

Tasia Marie: 52:18

You know

Aliya Cheyanne: 52:18

-- I know. -- there's one that I oh, what what you? Oh, no. It keeps breaking heart. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's

Tasia Marie: 52:25

oh, man.

Aliya Cheyanne: 52:27

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That one too. Donnie. It's a classic too. Shania. Yeah. Dolly part is a classic too, Jolly. Jolly. Jump. Yay. Yo. That's one. Oh, the Dixie chicks before they got black balls -- Yeah. -- standing up for is it Beyonce performing at the country music somebody was somebody black. Was supposed to perform at the country music boards, and they stood up for them, and they got black

Tasia Marie: 53:26

boards.

Aliya Cheyanne: 53:26

Mhmm. Board.

Tasia Marie: 53:27

What's up, you

Aliya Cheyanne: 53:28

know? That is called being an ally folks. Sometimes you have to use your privilege

Tasia Marie: 53:33

to to its rent.

Aliya Cheyanne: 53:34

Yeah. And lose resources and and power and success in Britain was right. So

Tasia Marie: 53:42

there's only

Aliya Cheyanne: 53:42

a handful of country songs I know, but try that in a small town has been making its round because, yeah, it's The rhetoric is a little harmful in these times. The video shows a lot of clips from the twenty twenty protests following the murder of George Floyd. It shows some other incidents of, like, robberies and jsavings. Like, most of the time when these things are happening, it's showing black people or people who are, like, hooded or covered, but you was but you kind of assume it's that moving. Yep. And then it also shows some clips of, like, you know, the police barreling down crowds, either in cop cars or in full SWAT gear. So And then the other part of it is the band is performing the song in front of a courthouse.

Tasia Marie: 54:35

Mhmm.

Aliya Cheyanne: 54:36

There and that courthouse has bad history and, like, negative dark history. So There's been a lot of critiques around that. He has been doubling down on the fact that he doesn't feel like It's a song that he may need to be divisive. He's been doubling down on that. But people have been calling him out and being like, no, sir. Like, this is pretty fucked up in this day in origin, in this time, and in this climate. Specifically, the courthouse The video was shot in a in front of a courthouse in Columbia, Tennessee, where a black man Henry choked -- Mhmm. -- was brutalized and lynched following accusations by a white woman. So there was a public town lynching at that courthouse where he did the music video. He's been doubling down and there have just been a lot of educational videos that have come out around why it's so problematic that we can link to in the show notes for you all check out and learn more, but yeah, it's it's it's not good. I think one other thing that I saw that I thought was I'm kinda sorry. My nose keeps itching. So if you're on video, you see me scratching. Like, it's a habit, like but Yeah. One of the a couple of the videos pointed out how as proud and tough as he's talking in that video and try that in small town. He ran the show. Yeah. He had a show where Shooting was like, a shooting was happening. Yeah. Like, a random stage.

Tasia Marie: 56:14

Wasn't that that country music fest in, like, Vegas?

Aliya Cheyanne: 56:18

What it was during his Mhmm. Yeah. And it's like he

Tasia Marie: 56:22

In, like, a bitch.

Aliya Cheyanne: 56:24

Right. So it's like, but those are

Tasia Marie: 56:26

the people that say you can't get away with that in our town. Mhmm.

Aliya Cheyanne: 56:32

Well, they feel emboldened and powerful and whatever when it's particular people that they're pushing that energy toward. Like -- Yep. -- you know? So it's just very crazy. Like, I we have such a dark history in this country and -- Mhmm. -- for that kind of anthem, to come out in this day and time where so many things are being rolled back and pushed back and It's just it's just kinda sad to me because it makes me think like, well, in certain states where they're trying to change the narrative around the history and the country as it pertains to formerly, like, enslaved people, formerly enslaved people, black Americans, black history here. Like, are these kids gonna be learning about the fact that they might be living in a state where a sudden downtown existed or still exists. Right.

Tasia Marie: 57:26

So do our does our current generation even know what a Sun Downtown is? Girl because there are people who are my age who don't know what the fuck a son downtown is. So Yeah.

Aliya Cheyanne: 57:37

So there's that too. I feel like We should talk about that too. Like, in certain parts of this country, there were cities and towns and places where if you were a black person, you could not be caught driving after daylight. Like -- Yeah. -- it doesn't matter. No. For real. And it doesn't matter if you were just passing through. It doesn't matter. You were exposed to white racial terror and violence just for being black in that town after a certain day and time. There's a whole I don't think it's active anymore, but there was a whole podcast called oh, and a movie too, the the green book movie, but also there's a podcast based on the green book, like where it was safe to drive and where it wasn't safe to drive and it chronic Me in this word, it is I can't even can't. I don't know what's going on today. It in the podcast, anyway, it interviewed people who had experiences in some downtowns or, like, taking routes that avoided them or who had friends or family members or whoever who might have experienced violence because of driving through a sun downtown. Mhmm. And it's just It's just crazy that it gives off that energy and that vibe. Like, if you behave a certain way, you might not make it down the road and and this kinda narrative and energy. It's like really disgusting and it's just like -- Mhmm. -- I saw at one point, I don't know what music chart it was. Maybe it was the country music chart or the general music chart, whatever. At one point, it was trending at number two on whatever chart. And I was just like, Is it that high? Because some people are going to listen to it for themselves to make their own opinions? Or is it that high? Because You're right. It's the anthem for some people who really Go. Like like it. I was just kinda like

Tasia Marie: 59:45

this.

Aliya Cheyanne: 59:45

What is going on? Like, why is it even number two on whatever chart this was? So it's just disappointing. He hasn't learned anything. He's still doubling down. And people like that need to learn their own kind of lesson, like, might not wanna try that in a small time, but don't roll through a hood. Right. So Yeah. So that's that. On the music tip, I guess we can trend

Tasia Marie: 1:00:15

I'm sorry? Do you hear that?

Aliya Cheyanne: 1:00:18

I don't hear anything. Okay. I'm glad.

Tasia Marie: 1:00:20

Because this sounds like a whole bitch fight outside. Oh, okay. Several dogs.

Aliya Cheyanne: 1:00:27

Oh, I hope I hope the doggies are okay.

Tasia Marie: 1:00:31

I hope they're okay too. This sounds really

Aliya Cheyanne: 1:00:33

bad. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So that's it on the music tip. So Yeah. Mental health.

Tasia Marie: 1:00:41

Mental health. Mental health is health. Mental health, we need to start treating our mental health like our physical health. I want to start off by saying that because if you've had a coal for the past week or, you know, if your body feels weird, If you have a high fever, something along those lines, you would get your ass up and go to the urgent care or you would set appointment with your primary care physician. But, you know, a lot of us have been in a funk and haven't really been feeling like ourselves and you know, we've just been going through the motions and day in and day out and not really taking care of our mental health. Without your mind, the body is not gonna flow. Like the mind body connection is real. What you're thinking up here flows down into your body. So you're not feeling well on the inside is going to translate to other physical pain. So treat your mental health like you treat your physical health. If you know you've not been feeling yourself, reach out to somebody. Speaking to people about how you feel does not make less than and it's that stigma in the black community, like, oh, I'm weak. You know? If if I gotta go talk to somebody, I'm weak. So I was

Aliya Cheyanne: 1:02:05

just crazy. Yeah.

Tasia Marie: 1:02:08

And I'll just deal with it myself, and it's those statements that we need to take away when it comes to mental health. Because if you look at statistics now, A majority of us are dealing with depression, anxiety. There are people who are going undiagnosed bipolar. I found out last month in conversations with my therapist. Like, we're familiar with bipolar one and bipolar two, but they're five different types of bipolarism. Right? Do people even know that?

Aliya Cheyanne: 1:02:40

I didn't

Tasia Marie: 1:02:42

Yeah. Like, it's real and a lot of people are experiencing things and they don't want to talk to people for the fear of being perceived as crazy.

Aliya Cheyanne: 1:02:52

I was

Tasia Marie: 1:02:52

one of those people. But, like, you gotta make sure that you have that support system. You you should have one person on your Ross on your team who you could reach out to and talk to. You know, if you're feeling down, if you're feeling low,

Aliya Cheyanne: 1:03:09

Yeah. Yeah. I just had to kick

Tasia Marie: 1:03:10

off with that.

Aliya Cheyanne: 1:03:12

No. I think I mean, I don't have much else to add. I feel like I'm incomplete. Agreement. I say all the time therapy has been a godsend for me. I've been on and off for years. And I use it as I need it, but I think being very aware of, like, what's going on with you, having a support system, support person, like whatever tools you have in your pocket to support you, and leaning on those things. Not just when you're in complete breakdown and need it, but also maintaining routines and practices that support you in between to help you, I think, is very important. So yeah. Definitely.

Tasia Marie: 1:03:59

Every month is mental health awareness month dealing with me. And as some of you guys may know, I'm a teacher, It's about that time we're getting ready to go back to school. Mhmm. And yesterday, I was actually less than planning, and I always start off my health classes with the mental health, mental and emotional wellness unit. So I was just kind of revamping the lessons, bringing a more current trying to get our kids more information post pandemic because we know that when it comes to mental health, like, that's been the pandemic exacerbated mental illnesses. Mhmm. Facts, especially mental illnesses that are going undiagnosed because people believe they can pray the pain away or -- Mhmm.

Aliya Cheyanne: 1:04:43

--

Tasia Marie: 1:04:44

having faith will pull you through And I'm not saying that those things will not help you through because with me, it's a combination of faith, praying therapy, and other things as well they gave

Aliya Cheyanne: 1:04:58

me. Mhmm.

Tasia Marie: 1:04:59

But, like, realize what you need. Sometimes you have to take a step back and, like, really self reflect on what you're going through. And recognize what you need is really coming to a truth with yourself. Mhmm. Having a mental illness does not make you crazy, it doesn't make you less than one in One in four individuals suffer from a mental illness. Russian and anxiety gained the number one leading mental illnesses. That we are faced with now. So if you're dealing with depression, hey, so am I? I suffer from depression and anxiety.

Aliya Cheyanne: 1:05:38

Yeah.

Tasia Marie: 1:05:38

But what are you doing to help yourself?

Aliya Cheyanne: 1:05:40

Yeah. And I also deal with anxiety and sometimes experienced depressive episodes too. And I I agree with you on on your point around faith and prayer, like, those are important and valuable for me too, but I know that those are not the only tools I have at my disposal. Like, sometimes It takes a combination of things and we can't let our faith be the only thing that we lean on in moments where we need a little bit more. Sometimes, it takes a little bit more. Like, some people maybe out here self medicating with, like, weed or other things too, which is nothing wrong with that. But it's like, sometimes it's a combination of things. Like, it can't just be one particular thing. Like, sometimes it takes a toolbox, something else I saw recently that I think when we're, like, deconstructing ways that we functioned under a capitalist system, recognizing when you need a break and rest. Is important and not always we're so conditioned to be productive. We're so conditioned to always be doing something. And I think we, especially as especially as black people and black women particularly, like, we have to understand that we deserve rest as much as anyone else. We don't always have to constantly be productive. And when you're constantly doing that, you're driving yourself to burnout, which will ultimately also drive you to potentially a mental health crisis too depending on where you are in your journey. Like -- Yep. -- burnout could sometimes feel like depression. It could sometimes feel like no motivation. It could sometimes feel like no energy. It could sometimes feel like, being being anxious and not being sure why. So just recognizing what's going on with you, like, what tools you have in your toolbox to support you, recognizing when you need rest that you don't have to constantly be productive, like sometimes that and it's time to get out of our bodies. Like, it it literally has to be a thing that we purge from our body is like an energy that we purge from our bodies and I saw like a very quick little video recently, which I'm gonna try to find it again and, like, link it in the show notes. But someone was, like, floating in water, and they were basically or swimming in water, and they're basically saying it took them a hunch a hundred. Oh my god. It took them one and a half years to, like, fully let go of, like, the productivity mindset and just rest. And I was thinking to myself when I was on my career break, that was for eight months. And it took me a while to to fully sink into resting and, like, letting, like, the burnout and the urgency and the being constantly productive, like, leave my body. So even in going back into work, like, last year, like, a regular job, I was like, oh, I'm not carrying that energy with me. Like, I had a break from my body. I had a break from my mental health. I'm not letting these tools go to the wayside. Y'all not gonna burn me out here.

Tasia Marie: 1:09:06

So Right.

Aliya Cheyanne: 1:09:07

Yeah. Like we've been saying, just checking in with yourself and recognizing when something feels a little bit off and what you might need to help you through that.

Tasia Marie: 1:09:15

Yeah. And figure out what works for you, like for me going back into the school year. At the beginning of my classes, I do meditation with my students. Not only is it for my students, to give them a tool, another tool to put into their toolbox, but it's also a moment for me to take a quick second after the clash change, after being in a hallway, and all the hectic noises, just taking a quick moment to kind of get to that homeostasis before we get into our zone. Yeah. So figure out things that work for you, like, know during the school year, I was doing pretty well. If anyone knows me, you know I have my periods. And I have my exercise periods. I have those periods where I'm on it. Like, then I have those periods where I fall off, and I fall off real bad. Oh, but during school, yeah. Same. Pretty good wake I was doing pretty good waking up at five o'clock in the morning to my yoga. And then reading my, you know, message from God for the day and then reading a scripture and then getting ready for my day. And then the time that I was doing that, like, first of all, last year was a very rough year for me. I was running on e the entire fucking year. I was planning on a few. Mhmm. But I made it.

Aliya Cheyanne: 1:10:38

Mhmm. Thank god.

Tasia Marie: 1:10:39

So speaking to what you were saying before, like, getting to that point where you realize that you can rest and you don't have to be productive -- Mhmm.

Aliya Cheyanne: 1:10:48

--

Tasia Marie: 1:10:48

like when the end of the school year ends, so the last two years I've taken a trip. Immediately at the end of the school year.

Aliya Cheyanne: 1:10:54

Yeah.

Tasia Marie: 1:10:54

Get the fuck away. Amazing. And then when I get back, I'm not going live to you, like, the first two maybe three weeks, I'm just chilling. Mhmm. Like, when you hit me up, you're like, what'd you do today?

Aliya Cheyanne: 1:11:08

I'll be like, girl, I was

Tasia Marie: 1:11:09

a bum. Like, I just laid here and did nothing. And you're like, no boo. You weren't a bum. You self care. Like, you did what you needed to do. You gave your body a rest. And, like, in you constantly saying that to me, you and I have another friend who does say that to me all the time to, like, allow yourself to do what your body needs to do. If you wake up in the morning and you decide that you need to sit on the couch wrapped up in the covers for a little bit, do that. Mhmm. But if you realize that this is happening more than often -- Mhmm.

Aliya Cheyanne: 1:11:43

-- you

Tasia Marie: 1:11:44

know, pay attention, take notes of things like that. And get the help that you need. But we don't always have to be productive, and that's what I had to get out of my head. Like, when it comes to my lesson planning, said I was gonna start as soon as I got back from the Dominican Republic. We're in fucking August, and I just now started revamping my lesson plans. But it's cool. I did what I wanted to do. I relaxed. Like, I'm okay.

Aliya Cheyanne: 1:12:09

Yeah. Your body needed to decompress and -- Mhmm. -- sometimes we need to focus. This is this is not my phrase. But sometimes we need to focus on being human beings and not human doings. Like, sometimes it's important to yeah. Like, sometimes it's important to just be, and it's not saying that you constantly be in a state where you're not doing shit. It's important to, like, explore your purpose and do your passion projects and give your best to what you feel like deserves and warrants your best, whatever, but it's okay to take moments to just have a break and just be and just rest. Like my favorite thing to say, like, when I have my check ins with my boss and they're like, how is your weekend? Would you do? If I actually didn't do anything, I mean, like, I was a potato. That's my way of saying that's my way of saying I was a cock like, I was a potato. Like, sometimes and I was just thinking about this recently, like, the first half of the year, I was going somewhere every month. I was constantly doing activities, whatever. The last couple months, I've just been, like, in my cocoon, like, era resting. And now it's about to pick back up again where I'm constantly doing something. So I think just recognizing what seasons and what spaces and what errors you're in, recognizing when your body needs rest. Like, a lot of us too were we're seasonal people. Like, we live in this society where it's like, work, work, work, work, constantly all the time year round. Some people come more alive in the spring and the summer. They feel more creative in this spring in the summer. Like, they're more energized to work in the spring of the summer. Some people are not, like, that's when they want to relax the most. Some people are more energized when it's cold and rainy and they feel more productive. I was just telling Tejas this recently where I'm like, I don't know what it is with me and my focus, but the days that are kinda rainy is when I feel like I'm the most creative and the most productive because I just kinda nest in my office space with my little LED and neon lights and I'm in a zone and something about the rain and and the gloom is kinda calming to me whereas, like, if it's bright and sunny out, I don't wanna be inside working on nothing. I wanna be outside. Catch it. You know what I'm saying? So I think just recognizing what works. Yeah. Like, just recognizing what works for you and resting when you need to and checking in with your head space when you need to is always important. We always gonna advocate for mental health. So always

Tasia Marie: 1:14:43

Always always always because without your mental health.

Aliya Cheyanne: 1:14:47

What are you? What are you? What are you?

Tasia Marie: 1:14:51

You know, seriously though. Yeah. But yeah. That's that on that.

Aliya Cheyanne: 1:14:56

Alright.

Tasia Marie: 1:14:56

That's on that on that on that.

Aliya Cheyanne: 1:14:57

And that on that a little bit. Well, another great episode. Thank you all for tuning in, and we will catch you next time. Until next time. Bye. Hey.