Ep. 18 | Rewind! Mastering Modern Relationships: A Discussion on Gender Roles and Personal Goals - Season 1 Throwback

Welcome to The Prolific Hub Podcast (formerly known as 3tingz Podcast),  where your favorite co-hosts & creators Aliya Cheyanne, Tasia Marie & Mikhaila Rae discuss ‘3tingz’ shaping the culture!

This episode is a throwback episode from season 1 that initially aired on 1/21/22! Sit back, relax and let's talk all things relationships!

0:00 Intro, Exploring Gender Roles & Relationship Dynamics
13:56 Navigating Relationships and Communication
20:48 Evolution and Openness in Relationships
26:17 Relationships and New Year Goals Reflections
32:35 Creativity, Side Hustles, and Family Goals

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Transcript

Tasia Marie: 1:30

Hey y'all, welcome to the Tree Tingz podcast. I'm your girl, Tasia Marie.

Mikhaila Rae: 1:35

I'm Mikaela Ray and I'm Leah.

Tasia Marie: 1:37

And welcome, welcome welcome to our podcast. So today we're going to be talking about Tree Tingz specifically, and those Tree Tingz would be relationships, these gender norms that are currently evolving but still sticking somehow some way. And, of course, new Year's resolutions, because we've got New Year's on the horizon and everybody got some goals they try and get to. So what should we?

Mikhaila Rae: 2:02

kick it off with first. We can start with gender roles and how they've not necessarily like. People want us to like stay in the 1950s and it's like 2022. And basically, I'm not saying that. I'm not saying certain traditions are incorrect or not good to have, but women are doing a lot more nowadays than they were before and they're not necessarily they're not bound to the same things that they used Like, basically like back in the days when women weren't allowed to access a bank account without having a husband. We're not in those times anymore.

Tasia Marie: 2:44

Definitely agree. And, like I always say, when it comes to gender as well as sexuality, everything is on a spectrum. It's not black or white, it's not that little gray in between, but that little gray in between is what gets us that whole realm of everything else. So, yeah, we definitely need to start moving forward.

Aliya Cheyanne: 3:02

I was gonna say. I think that I feel like that conversation is kind of I don't know, it's kind of tired at this point.

Aliya Cheyanne: 3:10

I see it a lot on Instagram too, and people's expectations are tied to things that are outdated. It's like men don't expect much from women except for sex and their ability to cook and clean. A lot of them don't have jobs, so then it's women who are like well, traditionally men have been the providers you guys, paper dates and things like that and, like a lot of men are not doing that anymore. So it's just like a cesspool of trash and it's hard to get to a place where there's common ground when people have some of these expectations that are out of place. So it's an interesting like reckoning I think we're coming to when it comes to these gender roles and gender norms, especially like as it pertains to relationships. I think, at the end of the day, people just need to do what works for them within their own relationship, like what might be outdated for some is not outdated for others, and what works for some people is not gonna work for other people. I think there are plenty of kept women. There are plenty of kept men.

Aliya Cheyanne: 4:11

There are plenty of men and women that don't function that way there are plenty of people who don't identify as men and women, who have a dynamic within their relationship that works for them that might not work for other people. So I think, at the end of the day, like it's really just about what works for the parties in that relationship, what standard they say, and what dynamic they have. Like it's really not on anybody else to really dictate what one group must do versus another. I think it just depends on the relationship and what works for them.

Tasia Marie: 4:43

So what's good for the goose is not always good for the gander. Oh Sheila.

Aliya Cheyanne: 4:50

And I think everybody has to be on the same page, like be on the same page about it, like within their own relationship.

Aliya Cheyanne: 4:59

And I think sometimes people like you go through a process where you're dating, you're getting to know each other. Maybe certain conversations are not had in the beginning and then, when you get serious later on, things come up because, like y'all never discussed education, you never discussed, like, how you wanted your partnership to work. There's an unwillingness to like, adapt and evolve, like, so maybe that leads to a breakdown or for some people, that leads to an awakening, like it's a new, newer level or evolution in the relationship when you have those conversations. So then you guys know how to move together. You know, like I know couples where the woman is the breadwinner and the guy is figuring it out. I know couples where it's not like that, like the woman might be kept at home and somebody else might be doing something on the outside or whatever the case may be, like people understand the function of their own relationship and it's like up to them to determine what works best.

Tasia Marie: 6:01

So Right, what's understood doesn't have to be explained Now, but, like going back to the meme that I saw, like again, it says I want a relationship with no gender roles.

Tasia Marie: 6:17

We both hustlers, we both cook, we both clean, we both pay, we're both romantic and we both spoil each other. Like, first of all, open communication is what is lacking in a lot of relationships. A lot of us know exactly what the fuck we want and what we expect out of things, but we go into these relationships not really being open and honest with ourselves, like we're really just infatuated with the right here and the right now. And then, like, when it really boils down to it and this is me speaking from a personal standpoint, right, just coming out of a relationship that I've been in for nine years I feel like my thoughts, my experiences, like my personal values have just grown and evolved so much. When we have conversations now it's kind of like, hey, I'm really you never said this, like in the beginning, and I'm like, ooh, well, that's a fault of mine, I need to open up and communicate and express like what I'm feeling, because now I'm realizing like well, that's for a whole, nother conversation.

Tasia Marie: 7:22

But, yes, open communication and honesty like being real. If this is the person that you really want to vibe with and rock out with, y'all should be able to talk about every and anything. And sometimes that is not there in the beginning and you don't realize it. And then sometimes it is there in the beginning and it's dope.

Mikhaila Rae: 7:40

but I was gonna say like that could also be. Like when people try to like dismiss the red flags that they see or they don't want to see. You want to change. Like you see so much in the person, you see so much potential or whatever it is that you overlook, like the person might have certain bad qualities, that one relationship that you will tolerate with them.

Aliya Cheyanne: 8:03

I also think, just going back to the whole gender role, gender norm thing, like there's nothing to say that that has to be maintained throughout the entire duration of the relationship, as if people don't change and grow.

Aliya Cheyanne: 8:18

You know, like so it's necessary within the relationship to reassess where things stand and what might need to be adjusted. And if, whether or not folks are on the same page or not, like what about? This relationship dynamic needs to change. Like, do we stay together? Like, is this something we can work through or are there deeper things that we need to discuss?

Aliya Cheyanne: 8:44

And like just thinking about what you said, teja, like not like I'm in a relationship right now, but one thing that I think is so important in the beginning is to just like ask a lot of questions Like I don't, like I love question games. I have math skin deep games I have we're not really strangers and my last like serious dating experience in the very beginning even though I was unsure a lot throughout that relationship In the very beginning, like I was really invested in getting to know that person Like almost every conversation we were having, like we were playing a question game, and I liked that you know he was flexible enough and like willing enough to entertain those things with me and like go deep with me.

Aliya Cheyanne: 9:33

But I feel like I got to know what I'm getting myself into and that's something I always haven't done in the past, like I haven't really always taken time to really get to know someone as much as I possibly can. You're not always going to know everything about someone, but I really haven't in the past. But like I've invested enough time really getting to know people before I make a decision about whether or not I want to commit to them. That's something I'm like overly intentional about now.

Aliya Cheyanne: 10:53

And I love the question decks that I have, because they have questions like that. Like one of the questions in one of the skin deep games like the dating version is like what is your view on gender roles? Like, how does that apply in the relationship? You know it poses questions like that so that on the onset you get a better understanding of where that person's at and what they're thinking and whether or not that aligns with what you think and what you feel and you guys can have a conversation about it. So I say all that to say that it's important to like dig a little deep in the beginning and also throughout, because people change and they grow. But I agree with that.

Mikhaila Rae: 11:34

And it just brought something actually up. Like I just thought of something. I feel like people do need to communicate, as I said, but like sometimes the dynamics do change, in that there's like, basically I know that there's a woman and she has four children and basically she's the breadwinner, her husband does not cook, he does not clean, he just stays home all day and like baby, basically baby sits, but I know that she resents him for that. And it's like, as opposed to just telling him, hey, we need to change the dynamics, maybe you need to, basically you need to do something to be more productive in this relationship it's just like she just takes it out on everybody else. That's tough.

Tasia Marie: 12:16

I mean, things definitely do evolve and change. I would say I'm not even gonna lie at the beginning of my past relationship, or just my last relationship, like I more so wanted to be like the breadwinner and like the lead, I guess, so to say and this is also me being in the same sex relationship. But as the relationship progressed, like I kind of evolved and I was like, well damn, I don't always wanna be in the lead. Like I wanna be told like okay, we're going here at five o'clock today. Like be dressed. Or I don't wanna be the one that's always making the plans. Or like setting everything.

Tasia Marie: 13:00

Like that gets very monotonous. Like I would love to be submissive. Like tell me what the fuck we're doing. Like tell my ass, get dressed. Tell me, go to the fucking the bedroom and do this. I don't always want to be the one that's taking the lead. So like that definitely has changed. And then when you're thinking of same sex relationships too, it's very non-traditional in a sense of gender roles. Like I hate when you run into people and they're like well, who's the male and who's the female? Well, first of all, bitch, we're both females, so let's get that out the window. Secondly, like why does there have to be a role, like both of us should be bringing the same thing to the table? Yeah, like I, just sometimes I do wanna take the lead and then sometimes I do wanna fall back and like watch you take the lead.

Tasia Marie: 13:51

So, having that equality, yeah, like an evolving in that sense, and not being able to communicate and express that to your partner, like that really leads to the breakdown of the relationship, cause either you're gonna keep it in and then just fucking explode when they put the ketchup on the wrong shelf in the fridge oh no, or yeah, random shit or you're just gonna like have those conversations along the way, like I find that now we're having more of these tougher conversations, now that we're not in a relationship, more so than we did like when we were reaching the end of our relationship. For me, us not being together now it makes sense to me because for the past two years we've essentially been like best friends. You know what I'm saying, sure, but again, I have evolved in my thought process. I cannot exactly tell you where she is, but communication, communication is key.

Aliya Cheyanne: 14:52

Yeah, definitely I was laughing like shit at the ketchup example, like who was the ketchup on the wrong shit? Cause I really knew me those tiny things. No legit Stenual Like when you have that resentment and stuff filled up. It's the smallest dump of shit that we say.

Tasia Marie: 15:10

Legit though.

Aliya Cheyanne: 15:11

And I'm like I mean, I feel like it's kind of a talk to laugh, but I can't help it Like I'm laughing cause I can't relate so big. You have a problem, Like even when you were talking, I think about like a lead, Like taking turns being a lead or other case maybe. And my last dating situation I want to call it full relationship. We didn't get to that point, we were just dating for like a while.

Mikhaila Rae: 15:41

And.

Aliya Cheyanne: 15:41

I was trying to figure out whether or not I wanted to commit to them. But one thing that came up for me is like we would both have like date ideas and stuff, but he would put a lot on me to like plan and figure out logistics and stuff. And I know, like that's my personality, like I am a planner, I don't do all of this organization and stuff, so like I have to kind of do that, but it doesn't mean that I always want to be the one to do it Right. So it's, I started building instead of just communicating, like hey, I need you to figure some stuff out sometimes.

Aliya Cheyanne: 16:16

Like I started building up some resentment to the point where over dumb shit.

Tasia Marie: 16:22

I, you know, flipped out a little. God damn that nigga blinked too much. The fuck, yeah. Basically, like you know why the fuck are you breathing so hard, bitch?

Aliya Cheyanne: 16:36

So wait. So I think ultimately like yeah, it was something dumb, I don't really irritated and we had a moment, we had a conversation after, and the whole time he was thinking he's like I know you like to plan, so I thought you wanted to do that. If that was not the case, all you had to do is tell me Right. And I was just sitting there like oh, like, damn it, unhealthy communication Again, like figure it out, you know. So I definitely think there's some like valuable moments and lessons from that.

Aliya Cheyanne: 17:16

But I can relate to I forget what it's called Like I'm not a therapist or a psychologist, whatever the case is. I think it's called like withholding or something, because withholding will withholding in a relationship, like when you're not communicating your needs or that like a boundary has crossed or something it will lead to resentment and the resentment will grow and if you don't get that under control, like it will ultimately contribute to the like destruction of the relationship. So doing it too much and for too long is not healthy For you like holding all of that, but also not for your partner either, you know.

Tasia Marie: 17:55

I feel like, first of all, no relationship is perfect. No one person is ever gonna give you 100% of what you want. Whoever you decide to take that journey with, you're deciding to take that journey because you know that person embodies maybe a majority of what you want. But one person is never going to be 100% of every single thing that you want and need. But having those conversations like in the beginning, like I wish we had more open conversation shit, I wish this skin deep games were around at the beginning of our relationship, because those are actually some pretty deep thought provoking questions to ask, even when you're just getting to know each other. Right, because that can be determined like oh shit, or it'll make you dive a little deeper in.

Tasia Marie: 18:50

But Having that open communication and not having any expectations like my whole purpose of breaking up and getting rid of labels was because of the expectations. When you put a label on something, you're expecting shit. So now that you're in a relationship, you're expecting that that person is going to be this and do this. And if they weren't doing that prior to y'all getting into a relationship, why do you think it's going to happen once you put that title on? So getting rid of those titles on relinquishing expectations and just like really enjoying the person for who they are. You can really help lead and build to something even better. But also making sure that you're having those deep, those deep conversations is shit.

Mikhaila Rae: 19:39

Sometimes I go into a rabbit hole with my thoughts and I be like I should really say this, but I don't know if I really want to go there or if I want to have that conversation, but I think sometimes it's necessary, like, regardless of if you heard somebody's feelings yes or no, like you need to get it off your chest Because, I mean, I'm probably the worst person to say this, because I have a tendency of like repressing how I feel, just to like, please somebody else, but what's?

Aliya Cheyanne: 20:09

your size.

Mikhaila Rae: 20:10

I'm a Scorpio, I mean we're all water signs, so Okay, well, technically you're almost like you're like a various, those like it should have been in the water, but you know it just didn't happen. That way I have a tendency of repressing how I feel just to make sure somebody else is good, and I ended up getting very upset. Either I get overwhelmed or I get like frustrated, so like it's not really good to like get it off your chest so the other person can know how you feel.

Tasia Marie: 20:49

Basically, I feel like we slowly but surely just headwayed into relationships.

Aliya Cheyanne: 20:55

I think we've been talking about relationships. Yeah, pretty much I feel like it's just been a blend of generals and nice, large, but what I was thinking before is like what you were saying to me about like titles and stuff. It's, I feel, like it's on the people involved to decide that, like how you made a decision about what works for for you, you know, and for people who do want titles, like for people who prefer that, to like to have a relationship, like coming to an understanding about what you mean by that. Like, and I think also even in just like outside of marriage because I've heard this a lot with, like, married people talking about or unmarried people talking about defining what marriage means to them, what a husband means to them, what a wife means that, what a spouse means to them, and like understanding all parties, understanding of what those terms mean and what value they hold, so that people are not having that conversation and then they are getting married and then the expectation creeps in and it's like, hey, but we never discussed that.

Aliya Cheyanne: 22:09

I don't think that's what a spouse is Right. Oh, really like why you have that conversation after the break. Yeah, they didn't talk about that beforehand and continue to talk about it because, like we've said before, like relationships evolve and they change and people grow. I don't know if it's a direct quote, but I've seen something before where it's like in a relationship, depending on the length of the relationship, you're going to meet like 10 people maybe. You know like if y'all have been together for decades, like the person you're with in the beginning might not be the same person 60 years later, like so, and there's no requirement that relationships like last, you know, like sometimes they end one in one capacity but they might start in another you know, like.

Aliya Cheyanne: 23:00

It's up to the people involved to define what their relationship looks like for them and how, if and how they show up in each other's lives, like outside of, like a romantic capacity, you know.

Tasia Marie: 23:12

But I completely agree, though I agree too. Yeah, people definitely evolve. I feel as though throughout the course of our relationship I've all a lot like I hate to say it and I've said it all the time throughout our relationship, but I feel like monogamy is unnatural. I'm not saying that coming from a, I ain't cheat on nobody or nothing, but monogamy is very unnatural, and I say that because one person is not going to give you everything you need. But if you are in a relationship with this person, y'all have those conversations right. Maybe you're in a relationship with someone who doesn't necessarily like to do certain things that you'd like to do, okay, hopefully y'all have an understanding and you're able to do the things that you'd like to do with you know someone who may like that. Or y'all find some kind of equal balance. I don't know. You grow.

Tasia Marie: 24:10

I feel like I've become a bit more open as my last relationship grew and the more open that I became. I think I became a little too open for my ex. So again, like at the beginning of our relationship, I was just like, oh no, it's just me and you. And then, as the year started to progress, I was like, oh, okay, well, it would be kind of cool to add someone let's, let's try a little, three some. But it was like that little, that little, you know, add a little bit of salt here, and we're not going to talk about it again. And then a few months later, oh okay, three some. And then it just turned into like a oh, I'm more open, go ahead.

Mikhaila Rae: 24:51

I was going to say does that you were in a like a long term relationship? Does that like dynamic? Did that dynamic happen? Because, like y'all got I don't say bored of each other, but like a custom to each other.

Tasia Marie: 25:05

I would say yes, yes, a custom, and also like, remember, one person is not necessarily going to give you 100. Yeah, so just something different. But again, people are on different pages. True, it is what it is.

Aliya Cheyanne: 25:23

I think that goes back to the importance of making sure that you Are you checking yes, check in with in your relationship. But like just going back on what he just said about, like Someone is not going to give you a hundred percent of what you need all the time. You know like you have to have your own like friends and life and hobbies and stuff outside of the relationship, because if you're putting all of that on the relationship you're bound to be like, unhappy, like.

Aliya Cheyanne: 25:52

I don't know any, anyone any relationship that gets everything they need just from their partner. I don't know that that exists. So that's why a lot of people say it's important to like maintain your life outside of that, like have your friends. Don't don't like lose your friends just because you're in a relationship like you know, like have your interests and your hobbies and stuff to do. Like McKaylee, you were saying the other day, like you know, or was it I think it was you and Kayla or Tasia. What do y'all think?

Mikhaila Rae: 26:23

I have poor memories. We've established this.

Aliya Cheyanne: 26:26

But we were talking about how, like the pandemic has been especially hard on people in relationships because a lot of people have been forced Inside just with their partner, like they've lost Access to, like during this time you know, with places closing and restrictions about, you know who can get in, whatever the case may be like people may have lost access to some of their hobbies, like they may not have been able to go see their friends and talk to their friends.

Aliya Cheyanne: 26:51

It's often you know like a lot of people have just been With their partner like, yeah, unhealthy amount of time, like too much time and like Some relationships have survived that and like evolve like it was a test for them and they moved a different direction. And for other people, they had an awakening and they realized okay, actually, maybe this doesn't work, maybe I need something different, you know.

Mikhaila Rae: 27:17

So, um, that sounds kind of familiar. That's like maybe we were talking about the situation with Megan good and her husband.

Aliya Cheyanne: 27:24

Oh yeah, that's what we were talking about.

Tasia Marie: 27:26

Yeah, I love so, just to kind of take it off, but I love the statement that she released after. Yeah, she said statement was so beautiful. Oh, they both posted the same thing. Yeah, I love it because both of them on their Instagram.

Tasia Marie: 27:42

They posted a picture with them together. Um, of course, their backs were turned. So basically, she was just saying after much prayer and consideration, we've decided to go into our future separately, but forever connected. We celebrate almost a decade of marriage together and I love that's eternal. There's no one at fault. We believe this is the next best chapter in the evolution of our love. We're incredibly grateful for the life-changing years We've spent together as husband and wife. We're also extremely thankful to God for the testimony being created inside us both and for blessing our lives with each other. Like that's so dope. That is such an amicable Like parting, yeah, like that. And I feel like that's how all and like.

Tasia Marie: 28:25

All endings do not have to be detrimental. It doesn't have to be a oh, I fucking hate you. I hope you die. I'm gonna burn your PlayStation 5. Like it should never be that way. I love the way how it was just real, like serene. Like look, we've run our course.

Tasia Marie: 28:39

Just because you're in a relationship With someone for over five years, over Eight years, over ten years, twelve years, twenty years, does not mean that you all have to stay together for the rest of your life. Yeah, and society just has it ingrained on us. Oh my god, oh yeah, I've been together for so long. When are you getting married? When are you having kids? When are you doing this? Like no, as a society, we need to chill. Like let people do them. People who've been together for like 20 years, no marriage certificate in sight, and they have the best relationship ever. And then there are some people who've been together for like a few months and they get married and they get divorced within my parents. Like just to let people do them. I think we're too worried about what the outside is going to think and what the outside is going to say.

Mikhaila Rae: 29:28

But sadly enough, the people that are outside are usually the most miserable. Like it's usually like you're drunk on that has never been married saying. Oh what are you having kids? What are you doing this? How's college going? Purge, you didn't get that job you want. Like shut up, bitch Roto, like go find your, your, your deadbeat baby daddy, and leave me alone, oh shit.

Tasia Marie: 29:51

But for real, though, we need to learn to do things on our own terms, like I Don't know, and every breakup does not have to be horrible. It can be amicable. You can still be friends with your ex. Sure, everything can still be copa static.

Aliya Cheyanne: 30:06

There's a page that I like on Instagram. I think her name is Ashley Stempo or something like that, um, and she made a post after Megan and Devon whatever his name is.

Aliya Cheyanne: 30:18

Yeah they announced their divorce and she was talking about how, like a, a successful marriage does not have to be tied to people staying together. Sometimes the successful marriage is one that ends like if you realize the relationship is not working for you in that capacity, it's perfectly okay To end it and it has no bearing on whether or not the marriage was a quote. Unquote success Like. There are plenty of people who look at relationships where marriages last, like our grandparents' marriages last.

Mikhaila Rae: 30:53

But to our generation.

Aliya Cheyanne: 30:55

Sometimes, when we look at our grandparents, it's like ehh, I don't know if I want that. Had it been a different day and a different era for y'all, we're not sure that y'all would have been together this long. You know what I'm saying, Like so-.

Mikhaila Rae: 31:09

She wants to be told. Actually, my grandmother had said that if she was dating in the time now she doesn't know if she would have gotten married. Like cause, this generation is different.

Aliya Cheyanne: 31:18

I think it's just like we have to redefine what we and to ourselves Like I'm not talking about like one that a one standard that the whole society holds. Like we have to define to ourselves like what a healthy quote, unquote successful relationship looks like. Like that's not on anyone else to define for us. Like you know what I'm saying, so-.

Tasia Marie: 31:45

I think we just need to get out of our heads, like, get out of these societal norms and get out of these societal roles. Stop worrying about what other people think. Love who you want, love them how the fuck you want to love. Do whatever y'all want to do, as long as you understand, within your relationship with that person, what y'all are doing and what's permissible and what's not. What's understood does not have to be explained to any others. All right, oh yeah, new Year's resolutions, new Year's goals. What are y'all working on for this New Year's, ladies?

Mikhaila Rae: 32:18

Just paying off my debts and trying to find better situations to be in Fuck depths. Yeah, she wanna tell Joe bye. Give me my $10,000, motherfucker.

Tasia Marie: 32:32

Bang my arm, Okay. Paying off debts okay, yeah.

Mikhaila Rae: 32:40

What are the goals? Oh, those, that's really it as of right now.

Aliya Cheyanne: 32:44

What goals you got, Leah, I think for me. I saw something the other day that was just like exactly the way you're saying it, like think about it as goals, because a lot of times resolutions fail and don't work out. But I think my goal for next year is to I don't know continue to try to get in this shape that I would like to get into, making it day by day and like making progress as I can. Not every day is great, but when.

Aliya Cheyanne: 33:22

I have the motivation to like eat, write and work out. I will. So that's one. And surviving another year of this pandemic, because I feel like I don't know what 2022 is gonna hold, but it's not starting off great right now. But still hoping that you know there will be opportunities to explore and like be in my soul through travel when I can and I think I don't know. Just being open to receiving like good things, like opportunities, work wise, open to like healthy love and relationships. Yeah, just just being open to those things. I think my goal is just to be open, because I'm not, I haven't always been open, so there's that I love it what about you, Teja.

Tasia Marie: 34:12

So my biggest goal of next year is to dive more into my creativity bag. This year I really let that go, and the past like three days I've been working on this big ass canvas and I fucking love it and it really brought back like all of my little creative juices. So my goal for 2022 is to make sure that I'm being a bit more creative and actually trying to hone in on my side hustles, because I can make money off of my creativity and, you know, hopefully get the fuck out of the classroom. But that's definitely one of my goals to just tap back into my creative side. And there are like one or two ventures that I really need to start mapping out, like putting it into an actual plan. So I'm going to get that done by March, and I still want to have this baby Wait what? Yeah, you know a little human person thing. So that is one of my potential goals. But I also want to travel and like live my best life.

Tasia Marie: 35:31

I don't know if I want to broke best friend to travel on my hip with me every time I go out of town. So we'll see.

Mikhaila Rae: 35:40

So what do you want to have? I want a boy.

Tasia Marie: 35:44

I would love a boy, but, you know, as long as it's a healthy, happy baby, it is just the best version of me, which I know probably won't be.

Mikhaila Rae: 35:57

But you know, are you looking into donors or I am. Okay, I was going to say, is it going to be like a friend situation to our best, like you know that you can have like an, not an attachment, but like they can develop, or like maybe an uncle. Yeah, yeah, son bond.

Tasia Marie: 36:14

I don't know. Yeah, I have like a few actual donors online that I have in my cart, whatever. Okay, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, and, of course, to travel more. I just want to be the fuck out of here. But with this, oh Marion Byron, I don't know, I mean variance. I said, oh, marion Byron, or Marion.

Mikhaila Rae: 36:37

The way that he was at mean this year and went from like that that one day he had to now he's like associated with Corona. I mean he's right, he ain't saying nothing yet. At least he's straight, yes.

Aliya Cheyanne: 36:51

I think with that.

Mikhaila Rae: 36:54

I think, yeah, that was that was our episode.