Crafting Richness Beyond Wealth

Unlock your potential with the wisdom of financial sage and high-performance coach Derick Gant, as he joins us to reveal the fundamentals of his "The 24K Life Code." This episode is a treasure trove of insights, offering a new perspective on success that transcends the allure of motivation. Together, we probe the essence of self-mastery, where your actions, emotions, and words become the building blocks of a life free from monetary chains. With Derick's guidance, discover the importance of sculpting a success path that's as individual as your fingerprint, and the transformative power of aligning your daily practices with your loftiest goals.

Who said motivation is the end-all and be-all of achieving your dreams? This conversation challenges that notion, emphasizing the might of habit over the fleeting nature of inspiration. We dive into the gritty details of what it takes to forge a path of personal success and growth, celebrating each small victory and the compound effect they have on your journey. Derick and I debunk the myth that other people's successes are intimidating barriers, and instead, we encourage you to find solace in your unique voyage towards a '24k life'—a life of richness in every sense.

Closing the episode, we share the art of setting dynamic goals and the vitality of taking action. We illuminate the impact of day 19 in habit formation, drawing inspiration from Strava's research, and reflect on the life-altering 75 Hard challenge. This conversation highlights the value of external guidance, likening it to the timeless wisdom passed down through history's greatest minds. So, as you set sail on your personal odyssey, remember the power of belief and manifestation and let gratitude be your compass. We're grateful for your companionship on this adventure and look forward to continuing this journey with you.

Transcript

Greg Kuhn: 0:12

Welcome everybody to another lifting, exciting episode of Manifest the Big Stuff. I'm Greg Kuhn. I'm your Mindset Coach. You might call me a Manifesting Coach. I get super excited about sharing information that helps you turn up your Manifesting Power, and today I have got a great guest for you. His name is Derick Gant and he's somebody that I haven't known long, but I know pretty well. I know that he has a tremendous amount to share with us today and I cannot wait to dig into growing your 24K life growing a 24K life with Derick Gant. Derick, say hi to everybody, please, hey thanks, Greg, so much.

Derick Gant: 1:09

Hello everybody, I'm happy to be here. I'm excited to share what a little bit I've learned over the last 30, 40 years and to share some great insights and ideas.

Greg Kuhn: 1:20

Well, that's a very humble introduction for yourself, Derick. I want to add to what Derick has said and just let you know that Derick Gant is a financial expert. He is also a high performance coach and he's got 25 years of experience in this genre. He knows what he's talking about. You're about to find that out for yourself. He authored the book the 24K life code the only difference between mediocrity and greatness, which is a guide to achieving your best and getting the results that you've been seeking. Derick works with clients by taking complicated concepts and delivering them in understandable terms, so we're really going to lean on him to do that with us today, and his well-known mantra, which is master your mind and you will always be free, is going to be one of our guiding lights for today's conversation. That mantra has enabled him to achieve mental, physical and financial abundance with thousands of clients.

Greg Kuhn: 2:50

For the clients and for their families. Is that a fair introduction for you, Derick?

Derick Gant: 2:59

Absolutely, man, every drop of it. I like the part that you focused on that the book is a guide. Because it is a guide, so many people that write books want to share how they became successful and they want to say here's the mold and you need to just walk the walk that I walked and you'll also reach where I am. And it's just not true. We all have to figure out our unique code to manifest our own personal greatness, which is why having a manifestation expert and manifestation coach like yourself is so critical and important to all of us.

Greg Kuhn: 3:37

Well, of course I'm going to agree with you there, Derick. Let me start out by asking you, because I really keyed in on something you just shared A lot of times in life, I know, for me, I have tried to manifest a goal, tried to attain a goal by following the directions or the instructions that the best ones I could get my hands on. I'm going to guess that that description does not do justice for how you got to where you are today. Can you tell us a little bit about your background? At least Tell us about your why?

Derick Gant: 4:27

Yeah, absolutely. We think that everything that we do is unique and it's 100% ours. But as I got towards the it's not the end of my investment advisory career, but more towards the end of it I've been doing it for 25, 30 years and you started to really hone in on what I wanted to do to complete the last 25% of my life. What I was able to do in my life I realized through an illness and some quiet time of serious contemplation extended quiet time that I had so much more to do. For me personally, I focus very heavily on identifying or helping people identify what their purpose is and then giving them the structure of how to accomplish that. So, for me personally, my why is I was put here to help as many people as possible finance this is going to sound really weird, but to finance their why. I was put here to help other people finance their why.

Derick Gant: 5:42

So when you look at your purpose and you look at your dreams and your goals and what you want to accomplish in the world, most people don't understand or can't conceive how to monetize their dreams, so have always wanted to work with the poor.

Derick Gant: 5:57

Well, how am I going to eat if I'm helping poorer people, or somebody else might say I really want to work with young, distressed ladies that are struggling but they can't find the monetary piece or they can't afford to launch either their business, their ideas, their concepts. So my why is to take complicated financial concepts as well as the concepts for life aren't complicated but to identify those core procedures, those core tactics that people need to implement in order to reach their highest ability. I won't say potential, because we never reach our potential, but to reach your highest ability. So my why is to hey, let me help you get your money right so that you can dig in and live the best life that you can, given the tools that God gave you, and make money at it at the same time, so that you don't have to live in poverty while you're along the way.

Greg Kuhn: 6:59

I love that when you are addressing I believe I hear you addressing your life purpose in the sense that you're helping others reach their life purpose, find their life purpose. Tell us a little bit about that second piece, about that structure. I often say, Derick, that to manifest extraordinary things in life, sometimes or often we need to be willing to do things other people aren't. Now, those things aren't necessarily all extraordinary things, they're not all having to be, you know, herculean feats, but in my experience they do need to be done consistently. Speak to that a little bit, please. Tell us about some of the structure that comprises your life, that makes you the 24K Life Code coach.

Derick Gant: 8:00

Yeah, so you know you nailed it on the head and I'm just going to kind of extract it out just a little bit more. But you know you mentioned my personal quote, which is master your mind and you'll always be free. But the hardest thing that we have to do in life, the single most hardest thing that we have to do in life, is to master ourselves, to master our actions, our reactions, our emotions, our words, and so hence my saying master your mind. If you can master yourself, then you will always know what's going to happen, because you are in control of how you're going to react or act based on any multitude of giving circumstances. And I will add that it's a life journey. So let me say that, before I talk about you know the ways that I operate personally, let me say that you know becoming 24K is not becoming rich, it's becoming solid gold, personally in the areas that you're amazing at. So I am really good at helping people figure out their financial hurdles and putting it into practice where they can make it work for them, at a layman's level, not necessarily a sophisticated investment guys level. I also do really well at helping people identify what's holding them back.

Derick Gant: 9:27

As you mentioned, most people aren't willing to do what needs to be done to become who they really should be. And so for me personally, I like to take a look at the five core areas. So I look at, you know, my financial life, of course, my fitness life, my spiritual life, my physical life and then my relationships. And so we look at those five areas and you say, if one of them is lacking, or one of them is lacking severely, you are out of balance. I mean, I ask guys all the time kind of laughingly, if you had all the money you wanted and you were close to God, or you knew you had a great spiritual life and a great relationship, but you were severely overweight and couldn't get up and down stairs, is that a quality life? Are you going to be able to do the things? Are you free to move and to and fro? And what about your health? You know, are you going to be shackled? Or if you're in great physical shape, great financial shape, you have great relationships and your mind says tight, but you have no spirituality, I mean you're morally corrupt. You know now you're reeping and so on. So there is no area.

Derick Gant: 10:43

So for me personally, Greg, to answer your question in a shorter version, is that you know, I understand the number one rule, and that is discipline is freedom. Most people think that discipline is punishment, by the way we were raised, but discipline is freedom. When you know what you're going to do, then you know what the results are going to be. And when you know what the results are going to be, you know if you're if that's the results that you want, if you want to accept them or not. So how do I do it?

Derick Gant: 11:12

I'm disciplined in all of those areas. Um so, and I have routines, habits and things that I do to remind myself of my routines and my habits could be something as simple as a phone alarm that reminds me to take my meds at a certain time because I'll forget, or to to you know, once a week it'll be to reach out and check on my sister because if I don't put it in my alarm, I might not you know, might, it might miss it. So that gives you a brief answer of of what I do. But it's all about being disciplined and most people can't stay in that work.

Greg Kuhn: 11:48

Let's dive into that word just just for a moment, Derick. I think that's a great word and I really I'm resonating with the way that you introduce it. It can be scary, it's a little. Discipline can be a an off-putting word when I lack it more than when I have it right. Do you what? What sorts of things do you do?

Greg Kuhn: 12:15

I realize that you're not a static Individual. You're growing, you're changing. I see your business growing and evolving right in front of my eyes. Obviously, as we grow and change the new vistas open for us, we see even more possibilities, sort of like climbing a mountain and and reaching a plateau that we thought was the top of the mountain, but really we see that there's further to climb. You know, on one hand we can say, oh crap, I got more to go. On the other hand, we can say, oh sweet, this isn't the end, right, I mean, there's more. And you know wherever I am on that spectrum. You know I may be a little more empowered some days, a little less empowered others. Right, what to talk to us about that kind of motivation? Because I know, unless you're a part, unless you, Derick Gant, or somebody who just rolls out of bed and Flicks a switch and bam, instant motivation. Talk to us about that.

Derick Gant: 13:19

Yeah, you know, I think at different stages of your life you're motivated and driven by different things. The number one by far thing is that I believe motivation is overrated, because if you wait until you feel excited, if you wait until you feel good, very little is going to get done. Not that you never feel good or, you know, want to do things, but I mean, man, it's motivation is such a up and down roller coaster, as you've already indicated. So so if you create the, the habits of doing things, if you want to or not the given example Can't stand going to the gym, but I love it when people go. Oh my god, you look great. How old are you? Oh my god, I wish I looked as good as you at your age. And so you know you love the results, you hate the process, and if I was going to wait for the motivation of somebody to tell me how great I looked to want to go work out again, you know I wouldn't be very successful at that at all. And so we want to understand that motivation is overrated and you want to get yourself into a habit of doing whatever it happens to be. And so one of the things you said I thought was pretty cool was you know about Three years ago I hired a spiritual coach because I figured you know what, that's the one area that I can, I can really grow in.

Derick Gant: 14:40

That is equally as important as the other areas that I mentioned. And I and I did that and what I learned which is so stupid because you've heard it a billion times but I learned what it really meant number one, to be present and number two, to stop and smell the roses. Because, you know, in my life I've always been goal oriented, so it's, it's been, it's been achievement oriented. So we we're going to play on this team and our goal is to never lose and to be the champions and the host hoist up the trophy. You know, when I was in high school, it was to get a scholarship.

Derick Gant: 15:16

When I was in college, it was to go pro, and so you always had these huge things that that that were the prize at the end of the rainbow and then, as long as there was another rainbow with another prize, you're, you're good. But once you get to a certain point where you have most of the rainbows and the prizes, then you're saying, okay, well, you know, motivation isn't serving me right now because I don't have this huge next big thing, and so for me, it was tapping into what I really thought I was put here to do, which was help people financially, you know, sustain and improve their life and not live check-to-check. And what I learned was that, no matter how many wins or losses I have along the way, to do my absolute best to enjoy today, to enjoy this conversation, to enjoy my next client, and take those small wins Because they, they are motivating or there's some learning Nugget inside of it.

Greg Kuhn: 16:14

Oh, yeah, I love that, you know I do. I do want to mention Our brain. You know that that that Chemical dopamine that is the is is one of the really feel-good chemicals that our brain produces. Our brain doesn't actually give us the biggest jolts of dopamine when we achieve the goal. The biggest hits of dopamine come when we take action, take a step toward achieving that goal. Technically, as long as the goal, as long as we find the goal to be a reasonable one and a highly desirable one, a step toward it, taking action toward it is where the dopamine comes in. So I want to ask you a little bit about that.

Greg Kuhn: 17:10

I, you know motivation, what's it? There's a famous quote by zig ziggler. I think we're. Supposedly somebody challenged him. You know zig, motivation doesn't last, and he said yeah, that's right, neither does bathing. That's why we recommend it every day, and and and that's funny and fun and true. You know it rings true with us. And don't we all love motivation, and don't we all love to be motivated and feel motivated? But I Find it very interesting the idea that I can Help to craft my own motivation by taking small steps toward the attainment of a goal.

Greg Kuhn: 17:56

You know when I, when I look at you and You're a. You're an inspiring person. You're certainly an accomplished person. I Could look at you and feel intimidated and say, you know, maybe I'm comparing my insights to your outsides and you know I'm watching this and I'm thinking to myself yeah, I would like a better life. You named off, you know, five life areas that are integral for human fulfillment. As as the five areas you focus on, I'd like a better life, but I'm just not the same. I'm not that kind of person like Derick is. I'm not a. I'm just not as much of a go-getter. I don't have as much confidence you know I don't but Maybe some of those things that he's talking about aren't for me. What do you say to that person? Because I know they're watching right now.

Derick Gant: 18:53

Yeah, you know, that's the beauty of it, man I this is not gonna sound putty correct now I wasn't born politically correct, so forgive me or your audience if they if they, you know take offense to it, but please don't. You know, when my kids were younger, in school, you know, I graduated from college. My their mom graduated from college, and we're encouraging them to go to private schools and then graduate from college and they struggle pretty much because they had no appreciation for higher education. So I used to tell them I said, listen, you know, here's, here's the thing that I want you to understand. I Don't care if you and nobody pumps gas anymore. So that's why I always use this analogy I don't care if you like work as a gas station attendant and pump gas, or if you're the president and CEO of Christa Corporation. What I care is that you have options and choices. And so what I'm really saying to the audience is that, you know, I Used to think everybody should be type a, everybody should be going for the jugular and everybody should want to win the Super Bowl and everybody, you know she want to get straight a's. And then I realized that we all have something incredibly Incredibly unique and different at different levels. Giving an example, I'm one of what? Three million financial advisors, but I'm the only one that delivers the content in my mindset, in my voice, based on my experiences, to people that can understand me.

Derick Gant: 20:18

And so when we talk about, you know, the 24k life code is just like our genetic Code. You may like to operate at a seven. I like to operate at a eight and a half to nine. When I operate at ten, I burn out. Some people can only operate at eleven, ten, eleven or twelve, right, and it only goes to ten, but they overperform and they can't operate unless they do, and so are.

Derick Gant: 20:47

The cool part is to find your code, your, your amount of Time that you spend here, the amount of time that you spend in relationships with the amount of time you spend in the gym. Some people need to spend hours in there. I only like to spend 30 minutes, and so the code is figuring out what you want, what makes you feel accomplished, what makes you feel like you're giving back love to the world in a way that honors your life. And what does that take? Does it take you getting up early in the morning, staying up late at night? But we all have a Dynamic and I call it a code that we need to figure out, to figure out how we operate best.

Derick Gant: 21:29

And then you just forget about everybody else, right? Because what you were saying a little bit earlier is that it's comparison. No, we, we can't compare. I can't compare to you, or you know, you're a massive successful runner. I wouldn't, I wouldn't last, you know, 35 minutes, 32 minutes. I'm tapping out. So that's the key. I mean and if and I want to add, greg, that I don't want people to think that I don't use outside tools as motivation. I use YouTube talks, I listen to your podcast. I, you know, talk to you and listen to your testimonials about how your clients are manifesting better lives. All these things are motivation. When I help a client and they that you can see the lights go on and their life starts to change or their relationship changes. You won't. I can't imagine how many relationship compliments I get because I fixed the money problem and they no, no, they no longer fight about money inside their relationship.

Greg Kuhn: 22:24

Huge oh man, I tell you what Our financial advisor. I have told her numerous times that she really should bill herself as a marriage counselor. I totally agree. You know, kind of speaks to that. You know the, the, the rising tide lifts all boats sometimes, doesn't it? Do you find that when you, when you are bringing that 24k, you know juice to one or more parts of your life, it does infuse, it does have a bleed over effect, doesn't?

Derick Gant: 23:00

it hundred percent and I can tell you and I'll tell your listeners, because you're talking about Manifesting, which means that we are manifesting our own lives ourselves. I always start with the things I can control and to me, I can control. I may not be able to control what I'm thinking about, because maybe I'm so overwhelmed or anxious that I can't get a Thought out of my head or process properly, but I can control going to the gym, I can control working out, I can control, you know, what goes on the end of my fork, and then that makes me feel good physically, which makes my internal organs and In hormones and all those things work better, which makes me feel good Mentally, and then it starts to spill over in your actions and your words and the other things. So so absolutely.

Greg Kuhn: 23:50

I love that. Jumping back to something that you were saying earlier about knowing what you want. You know what do you want, and then that naturally opening up the door to exploring. Okay, how can I then begin to manifest that in my life? How can I begin to achieve that in my life? You know it might be a little silly, but I always say that if you want to hit a target, the one key thing that has to be in place first is there has to be a target.

Derick Gant: 24:27

Exactly.

Greg Kuhn: 24:29

And so you know, speak to that. Do you find that for you? Speak to this personally, please, but also with an eye toward speaking to me and our audience? You have targets in your life that drive you that help you plan, that, inform you moving forward.

Greg Kuhn: 24:52

Are those targets dynamic? I assume that they must be. And how do you approach that fluctuation? Because I know, you know, there's discouragement along the way. There's, you know, sometimes there's dead ends, there's obstacles. We get rerouted unexpectedly. Those things are sometimes frustrating. Oh, 100%, yeah, talk a little bit about that please.

Derick Gant: 25:18

Yeah, you know, setting the target has to be dynamic, because if you're serious about it and you mentioned it earlier you know setting a goal that you believe that you can within your grasp, and so when you set a goal or target and you hit it, then you need a new one. And so you know, or there's levels to it. So you know your end game, end game might be to influence 10 million people financially, you know on a regular basis, but you know I have to get to 100,000 first. So your, your big target might be 10 million, but you need to hit 100 along the way, and then you know so. So it's constantly, it's constantly moving, and I believe that that what I've learned personally is that, instead of looking for, instead of looking just at the target, it's like what did I gain today that I can always use as I move towards hitting this target and how did that affect me today, so that I don't have to continuously relearn the day. You remember Groundhog Day, and every day they started from scratch and they tried to remember and warn people hey, this is going to happen, so that they can get to some, some breakout solution. And so for me, it's a matter of it's a matter of saying, you know, I am enjoying my time, how do I feel right now, and that tells me if I'm on the right track or not. And and I'll tell you that that it's.

Derick Gant: 26:47

It's frustrating because if you're a competitive person, on top of the other things that we talked about, you're also competing against yourself. You know I did. You know what did I do this time last year, is my goal different than last year? Right now I'm competing because I changed my business model. You know I'm trying to land the airplane, so to speak. You know we've taken off, we've flown at a high altitude for a really long time, and so me landing is going from get investment advisors and being a fitness coach to being a financial coach, versus being a hands on advisor and helping more people, more and more people, which is why I wrote the book, so that we could get to millions of people compared to, you know, be talking one on one.

Derick Gant: 27:31

You can only talk to so many people a day. So if you're out there and you have a goal or you don't have a goal, you know I believe that you start with what you bet. You know it'd be great to do what you love to do, and most people preach that. I like to say do what you do best, because you're going to be less frustrated. And if you do what you do best, you're less frustrated, you do it with ease and then you can start to gravitate towards what you absolutely love. You know, and hopefully maybe you'll become, you'll come to love what you do best because you do it best for a reason.

Greg Kuhn: 28:07

Yeah, yeah, I like that, Derick. You know I'm thinking about what you said Especially. You said you know, what did I learn today? What did I learn today? That can, that can really, you know, add to my toolbox or add to my practices, or give me some confidence, something I can hang my head on, that sort of thing. You know, I've I've been playing with this phrase in that has come up in my journal in the last two days, where I think I'm an, I'm calling myself an SOB and and that means student of better.

Greg Kuhn: 28:46

I'm a student of better, you know, and and just taking that approach, and so when I look at my life, and I look at the parts of my life where I am manifesting the most fulfilling experiences, the most successful experiences by, by the metrics that I'm choosing, and, and really those are parts of my life where I'm using the reality I manifest to inform me, to guide me on my journey of, you know, learning, growing and changing, rather than using my reality to define me, my worth, my value, who and what I am, and you know, is that I'm. I'm looking at you, your practice, the, the coaching that you do, the community that you have built and are building, and you've used the term journey, you know, numerous times during our conversation today about being a student. Because I, because I know that it's inspiring for me to listen to you your energy is is naturally I feel, naturally motivating and very genuine. So if I'm starting in a place, though, where that's not where I am, you know, maybe it's with my financial life, maybe my career. You know, I've got a job.

Greg Kuhn: 30:21

I just don't see and understand opportunity there. I have money, you know, I get paid, but I just don't see abundance there. You know, I don't see opportunities for abundance there. Or maybe it's my love life or my parenting or, like you said, my health and fitness. What's what's taking that first step like and is taking that first step? Is it all that different from taking the step you're taking right now, which might be step number, you know, 682?

Derick Gant: 30:59

Yeah, the first step is always the hardest. You know it is the hardest step. You know, making a decision, making a decision that you're going to Make an aggressive change, making a decision that the life that you're living in, whatever area you're looking for improvement on, isn't acceptable. And that's why you know we put the subtitle there the only difference between mediocrity and greatness is to figure out what you need to do and then and then focus a hundred percent on the next step. You know what is the next step? And the first one, to me, is always the most difficult, because Change is difficult and people don't like change, they like comfort, they like complacency. Because you know, you know the best, the best weapon I have is, I mean, the best problem I have is the one I know I have. You know, you know, and people are afraid of things that will never happen, and so it becomes very difficult For most people. You know they'll decide, but but an 85% of New Year's resolutions are torched and done by the second week of the year, I mean, within two weeks, that resolution is dead and over, and so, you know, it becomes imperative to just focus on the next step, the next dollar, right, if we're talking about about, about your nutrition, what's your next meal? So I can't complain about the pizza a last week. All I can do is not eat one today, you know so. And if I do, what did I learn from eating the whole pizza last week? Well, I learned that I'm not good. I just wasted three days worth of working out, you know. So it's just focusing on. We can't change yesterday, so we just focus on the next thing that's in front of us, the next prayer, the next meditation, the next meal, the next thing I want to manifest and Focus on the next step of the target. So you have your destination.

Derick Gant: 33:01

And I tell people all the time we've talked about this before, greg is that the first thing that you do in modern times, when you want to go somewhere that you don't know where you're going, is you put in where you are, and then it says where do you want to go? And then it says pick the best route that you. You know. Here's five routes. Which one do you want to take? And then you look at the routes and you go. Well, this is on the expressway, and I'm not that big big of a fan of the expressway. This one's over here, but there's a roadblock, this one over here, but we have to go through the tunnel. So which one? We got to take? One because we know where we're starting from and we know where we're going. Which one do we want to do? And then figuring out that along the way, everything's okay because it's getting you to your target and that is.

Greg Kuhn: 33:48

That's a beautiful metaphor. It you know what you're making me think of something, derek. I recently read Some data analysis that Strava did and for people who are listening, who are not familiar, strava is A workout tracking app a lot of runners use I. I use run keeper Look me up on run keeper it's Greg Kuhn, easy to find and and add me will run together. But Strava Analyzed over 800 million data points and they they calculated that for the average person, day 19 of a new habit is quitter stay. Day 19 is quitter stay and you know what it's a. I was glad to to learn that myth. I was an interesting thing to learn. I'm currently in the middle of doing 75 hard, which is, I was told, a trendy Way of Infusing some very beneficial practices into one's life. Right, I, yeah, I work out every day for 90 minutes. I read at least 10 pages of nonfiction, I drink a gallon of water and Seems like I'm forgetting sugar. Maybe I'm not doing the whole 75 hard. I think it's no shit.

Greg Kuhn: 35:11

I think no sugar is one of them, isn't it? No sugar? Oh yeah, the diet, that's right, I get. Thank you, I, I, I. I Select the diet. You know that I'm gonna follow, and then I do it without cheating that good, thank you for the reminder.

Derick Gant: 35:26

And you gotta do one indoor workout, one outdoor workout, if I my memory serves me, correct.

Greg Kuhn: 35:32

It's actually correct, Derick. Please quit adding requirements to this. You're making it more difficult for me as we speak. I shouldn't have brought it up, that's right, well, we did it?

Derick Gant: 35:42

We did 75 soft. I called it. I swear to God, I called it 75 soft. In our in the 24k life community we did a 75 day challenge but we called it 75 soft because I wasn't doing two workouts. I'm too old to do two workouts a day, man.

Greg Kuhn: 35:57

Okay, so I'm doing it and and yeah, I, you're right, 45 and 45 it's a split, the reason I bring it up. Talk to us about the importance. You know our. Correct me if I'm wrong, and I don't think you will. So much of this journey, I mean I can't say 100% of it is an Inner journey, but the vast 99% of it is an inner journey right.

Greg Kuhn: 36:38

Everything happens in here. First, that is a hundred percent our, our insides manifest our external world. So, but you know that feedback, that guidance from external sources, it may not be a huge percentage of what's manifesting our external world Mm-hmm, if it were, that would be a little bit like, you know, asking the canvas to paint itself. But that 1% that comes from outside of us, you know, wow, it has the potential to make such a powerful impact. Now you coach, you get coached, same as me, right? You also run a community of people, so you're deep into the world of that 1%. You know that that necessary, beneficial, often life-changing outside help. Right, talk to us about the role that plays in Developing this 24k life.

Derick Gant: 37:54

Yeah, you know it's interesting way. I've never heard it put that way and I don't disagree. I do agree that 1% is a lot right, so To to have. Here's my take as an American, and I would say I don't like to say I'm typical at anything, but let's just say, as a typical American, I Want the fastest way to where I'm trying to go, even though, even though I'm a join, you know the process, because I want to get there, because I know there's somewhere else to go after that, and so that 1%, greg is, is what we offer and I say we because your coach also is what we offer, based on our experience and circumstance as a, as an idea of how to Help someone else do their inner work. Right, because it is a hundred percent inside job. But the 1% that says look, this is the inner work you need to be focused on right now, based on where you are, where you're going and what's happening in your universe, and that 1% is is really important and that's why I don't think that that these modern kids and I'm gonna say kids, and I don't want to try to cause a fight with any other generation, but they don't. You know you don't value books as much. The average American doesn't read one book a year. But but that what you're really saying is that there's a book out there that will change your life. It will change the way you see something. It will change the way you look at something. It'll change the way you understand something.

Derick Gant: 39:25

You know, I was watching a documentary this weekend and they were really short document documentaries on all the auto car makers. You know, chevrolet was a French guy, obviously. Ford, olds mobile these were auto car makers, olds mobile these were all individuals. All these car names were individuals. They that started making bicycles almost all of them started making bicycles and then graduated on to to automobiles, and they all failed like a hundred times. They all failed like a hundred. It was incredible when you go look at and you think that you know Four guys. You know, did he? Did he even live to see the magnificence of what he created?

Derick Gant: 40:06

And so my point in saying all this is Is that you're a hundred percent right. You know we could learn something. You know Ford learned something from the Dodge brothers. He hired the Dodge brothers and they came in and taught him some things that helped him make better forts, and so we all need that spark, or that guiding light to say, hey, you know what? I know it's an inside job, but let's shine a little more light on this Part of the inside job so that you can get where you're trying to go without falling in the too many pit holes and having to climb out of them to get back to even.

Derick Gant: 40:43

And that's the work that we do as coaches, that's the things we do in the community. Hey, look over here. If you're really struggling financially, look. Look here, I'm telling you where to look. Now you have to take that and apply it to your own personal spending habits, your own needs, the bills that you've put into place and your credit and all those type of things. But this is where you should be looking at right now. And that's the beauty of having a coach, having an advisor and and having somebody that's been there. They've helped thousands of other people's get there, so that means that they'll thousands of ways to help you possibly get yours too.

Greg Kuhn: 41:17

To surround ourselves, just to continue illustrating what you're saying. If, as best as we can, surround ourselves with other people who are like-minded, who are similarly goal-oriented, who are growth-minded, those sorts of things, I mean, is that typically it's close?

Derick Gant: 41:43

it's close. I would say that the statistics prove that you don't want to be the smartest man in the room. You don't want to be the smartest woman in the room. You don't want to be the one that knows everything. You want to surround yourself with like-minded people but that know more than you do, because just by their sheer actions, activities and insights, their verbits, their beliefs, it's going to elevate you. And if you're like-minded, then you're on the right track. If you drink whiskey, you shouldn't be in a wine room.

Greg Kuhn: 42:17

Right. Yeah, I spent some time as an executive director of a board of directors and I often told those folks that when we were problem-solving, that if the idea I brought to the room winds up being the idea that we use, I'm going to be mad at them, because my goal always I agree with you wholeheartedly. I don't want to be the smartest person in the room. That is not to me an advantageous point. I want to be a student. Right, you want to be a student.

Derick Gant: 42:52

Absolutely.

Greg Kuhn: 42:54

I do. You know, Derick, we're starting to butt up against time, not reaching a hard stop yet by any means. But I definitely want to come back to one thing you mentioned and you've talked about the journey and this, to me, this is a really key question. I really want to hear you know you pop the hood and let us in on some of your inner mechanisms, which you've been doing so openly. Thank you for that. So let's continue that.

Greg Kuhn: 43:31

The journey.

Greg Kuhn: 43:32

You know, learning for the sake of learning, the intrinsic value, if you will, where the journey is the gift, the growth is the gift, right, and at the same time, like, for example, with money, for me the journey is the gift and I also want the money. I don't just want the journey, I want the money. And I know that there have been times in my life and probably somebody listening is in the same position where what it was that I wanted, I needed it. You know, I've had a sit, a time in my life where I desperately needed money to avoid some calamitous circumstances. I was going to be going bankrupt and have 15 foreclosures and, you know, just destroy my life. I needed the money. Now, that need didn't necessarily at all change. The truth of the journey being the true treasure, right, but how do you personally stay focused on the journey and how do you help others stay focused on the journey, especially when that desire is a need, and, and, and it's fiery hot and it's hard to stop thinking about what it is that I don't have yet?

Derick Gant: 45:04

Yeah, you know the funny part about that, man and this is my experience with clients specifically from a financial perspective and from a fitness perspective, so the areas that I know a whole lot about. Funny thing about that is that you don't have to worry or enforce people to focus on the journey. When they're in need and desperation, they are focused. It's when they get slightly out of it that they get comfortable, lose focus and they either slide back in the total hell Right, or they improve a little bit and then they get easy, they get comfortable and they stop the habits and the focus that they use to get there. So you know, when you have something, I personally believe that people get what they need. I don't think the people get what they want as often as they get what they need, and so my concept is the how do we turn your wants to needs? So I started changing my own verbiage. You know I need a community with 10,000 members. I don't want one, I need one. And so you start to have that conversation with yourself. But I don't, I don't disagree with with your, with your, with your point and from my perspective.

Derick Gant: 46:15

I give you an example have somebody, that's that you know they're behind on their mortgage or their water is going to get cut off and they're just, they're just bad shape and they come to us and we, they it looks like we work magic, but we do what we do. We get them in a position where they know they get to keep their house, the water is still flowing, they're still going to work and they might get let's say, this happens more often than not they get a tax refund of $3,000, $4,000. They get them close to being okay. Then they get $3,400,000, they go up. Don't need your advice, I'm great, right.

Derick Gant: 46:52

And this happens in in March, april, by June they are dying on the vine again because they never changed the principles, they never changed the value structure, they never changed their habit structure or they didn't adopt it to a belief. They did it for a temporary band aid. You know, it's like constantly putting a bandaid on something to meet stitches. Here You're in trouble. So that's what I find. And so you know, for those that are listening, you know, pick one thing if you're, if you have five things that we talked about that are five core areas and you're lacking in two of them. You know, I don't guess how old you are my age, you got to tackle both of them at the same time. If you're younger, tackle one of them and just focus on that, stay present on that, get that out of your way and then you can move on to the next one and do your best to maintain.

Greg Kuhn: 47:46

Oh, that's such fantastic advice. You know you mentioned, Derick, people get what they need, yeah, and I got to say somebody probably many somebody's watching this need to hear what we are sharing today and, thanks to your generosity and openness and our willingness to get together, they are getting to hear it. That's a wonderful thing. Let's really take the value for this person to a whole nother level. All right, derek, you, you are being asked to. You know, have a consultation with somebody who has a strong desire. They, they really want that 24k life. They really want, you know, they really want the financial freedom. They want the personal freedom, spiritual freedom, the health, the fitness, whatnot. And so they're coming to you and saying, Derick Gant, tell me, tell me what I should do, what's your top advice? Where do I start? What's my first step? How do I structure things? Give us, give us the whole kit and caboodle, lay it out for us.

Derick Gant: 49:16

Well, I was. The first thing I'll say is that that is by far my ultimate favorite person, right? I mean somebody who says that on a scale of I asked this question when I interviewed people because I can't work with everybody, because I can't take it personally, you know, as a very driven alpha type guy, I can't take people that are wishy-washy. So so the person that says, on a scale of one to 10, I am an 11 on my desire to live a 24k life and change the trajectory of where I am, that's so number one admitting where you are, knowing where you are and being at that level where you really don't have a choice. This is what I'm going to do. And then it's just a matter of you know. It's a combination of how much time do they have? You know? Do you want, like the turbo boosted? You know how to get this going? We're going to do all five at once, and are you capable of doing that? Or do you want to just tackle these two areas? So it depends on the person. But, man, I'll unload and dump.

Derick Gant: 50:18

And here's the cool part for myself, if I can say about myself, is that there's a difference between an advisor and a coach. A coach is going to help you figure out what's next for you. An advisor is going to say, greg, pick up the phone and call 20 people that you interviewed last year that were your top interviews and tell them you want to follow up and that's going to get you 20 interviews like that. So an advisor is going to tell you what to do based on all the information that you give us. A coach is going to help you figure out. Now I do some coaching, but most of what I do is advising, and so what you're just asking me is spot on. It's like, if I get a guy, let's take it. Let's take a Derek Gann.

Derick Gant: 50:59

You got a 55 year old male who wants to be in the best shape of 55 year old can be in. You want. You want more stable finances. You have a relationship, but it could be could be a little better. You have some semblance of spirituality. I'm going to start you off on all of it. So we're going to do five minutes of quiet time, like as in prayer, meditation. That's going to be included in your day. So you're going to.

Derick Gant: 51:30

You know, we're going to pick a fitness goal based on what your level is, if it doesn't work out at all, then we're going to go. We're going to do our best to get you know, 15 minute walk in. If you, with your finances, go to your checkbook and write down, categorize everything that you spent the last 30 days. So go to your online banking statement, print it off and figure out how much was gas, how much was food, how much was dining out, how much was groceries, how much was clothes, how much was gambling. So we figured it all out. Let's see where your money is. And then and so we're going to do all of these things Do you have date night with your spouse or your partner?

Derick Gant: 52:03

So, if you are 24k aggressive, that's where we're starting with you and I know it's too much and it's too much for 99% of people, but we'll start people where they are. So our coaching, our advice, our programs are tailor made based on you know what people have in mind. You, you reached out and we, we chopped it up when we first met and we ended up spending three hours on the phone together, right, and that was totally unscripted and totally beneficial for both of us that it was, that it was, and this has been totally beneficial for me.

Greg Kuhn: 52:45

I know that it's been totally beneficial for others. By the way, I'm 56. Derick, I think you need some gray hair man, no it's there.

Derick Gant: 52:57

It was my dark skin cover, some of it up, but yeah, I got a few strands up top. I got a few strands up top.

Greg Kuhn: 53:03

Well, when you cross over to the gray side, I predict you will enjoy, you know, as somebody who is very intentional about his health and fitness. Here's what I predict you will find that as you get the gray hair, it'll add another element of outside appreciation because people will understand how much you're bucking the odds, so to speak. Gotcha, you know with the gray hair, and so you have a lot to look forward to there. That's always good to have that on the horizon, always ready. Derick, I have to say we definitely made good on our intention today to create something of value, you know, to bring some very valuable content forth through our discussion. Can you let folks know what does Derick Gant have going on? What's on the forefront of your activities today? And, of course, in addition to that, what's the best way for someone to engage with Derick Gant right now?

Derick Gant: 54:23

That's awesome, yep. So we decided that this year we wanna focus on helping people get out of debt. You know we do the other things and inside of our community just so people understand, we have brilliant minds like Greg come in to do workshops and programs so that they can get access to a variety of experts inside one kind of hub, if you will, that's the 24K Life Code. So if they wanted to download the 24K Life Code on their Android, their Play Store or the Apple Store, they can go to that and download the 24K Life Code.

Derick Gant: 55:01

It's a great place to start. You can message us, you can text us. We have a free version, we have a paid version, so it just depends on just getting yourself started. What we have on the horizon is we're running these workshops, and they are workshops where people can pull out their pen and pad and take step-by-step notes to figure out where they are with their debt and what's good debt, what's bad debt, how to get rid of the bad debt, how to increase their cash flow so that they can then spend more time doing the things that are important to their life's purpose.

Greg Kuhn: 55:33

Oh, wow, I love that and just to say I know that in watching and listening to our conversation folks are getting a good, healthy dose of the genuine energy, the sincerity that's on display here, and I personally can attest to Derick's heart and Derick's focus. It's a real pleasure, Derick, to get to introduce you to new people.

Derick Gant: 56:04

I enjoyed my time with you, man.

Greg Kuhn: 56:06

Yes, thank you so much for taking the time. And, as we wrap up here and I remind folks to go ahead and make sure that, if you haven't, at the very least join my Facebook manifesting group. It's called Manifest the Big Stuff with Greg Kuhn Creating Our Realities Together, that's a great place to go and get started.

Greg Kuhn: 56:27

Make sure you do that today, if you haven't. Derick, thank you so much for being here with us. Thank you, and to everybody who has made themselves a part of this conversation by listening and watching. Thank you so much for sharing your time with us. We have felt it while we've been talking, even though you currently haven't watched it yet. You're watching it right now and we can feel that all right.

Greg Kuhn: 56:58

Yes, sir, sir so thank you for sharing your time with us. There's nothing else more valuable that you could share. We really appreciate it. I never take it for granted. I know I speak for Derick and saying the same, so until we get a chance to get together again hopefully very soon keep believing and keep manifesting. Thanks.