#91 Unraveling Mind Traps: Strategies to Counter Wrong Conclusions
Oct 12, 2023
The Focus Cast
0:00 Jumping to Conclusions 12:50 The Dangers of Jumping to Conclusions 19:34 Avoiding Assumptions and Jumping to Conclusions 29:03 Career Politicians and Average Americans Disconnect
Imagine you could peel back the layers of your mind, understanding why you make hasty decisions or jump to conclusions when faced with emotionally charged or ambiguous situations. Promise us your time, and we'll guide you through this exploration into your cognitive machinery. Our discussion begins by unpacking the phenomenon of 'jumping to conclusions', a cognitive shortcut often leading to inaccurate judgments. We'll navigate its role in social anxiety and delusional disorders, and offer useful strategies to keep such hasty conclusions in check.
Ever wondered about the different types of mental shortcuts your brain takes? In a fascinating conversation, we address fortune-telling, mind-reading, extreme extrapolation, overgeneralization, and labeling. These automatic responses, while efficient, often cloud our judgement leading to misinterpretations. But we've got you covered. We'll delve into how to avoid these cognitive traps, helping you to question assumptions and make mindful decisions.
Lastly, we tie it all together by examining the influence of upbringing and life experiences on our cognitive systems. Our focus: the disconnect between career politicians and the average American, a gap widened by the biases produced by these mental shortcuts. We challenge you to slow down your thought processes, and question your own assumptions. So, join us to rethink decision-making and judgements. It's a conversation that'll leave you questioning, analyzing and hopefully, jumping to fewer conclusions.
0:00 Jumping to Conclusions 12:50 The Dangers of Jumping to Conclusions 19:34 Avoiding Assumptions and Jumping to Conclusions 29:03 Career Politicians and Average Americans Disconnect
Imagine you could peel back the layers of your mind, understanding why you make hasty decisions or jump to conclusions when faced with emotionally charged or ambiguous situations. Promise us your time, and we'll guide you through this exploration into your cognitive machinery. Our discussion begins by unpacking the phenomenon of 'jumping to conclusions', a cognitive shortcut often leading to inaccurate judgments. We'll navigate its role in social anxiety and delusional disorders, and offer useful strategies to keep such hasty conclusions in check.
Ever wondered about the different types of mental shortcuts your brain takes? In a fascinating conversation, we address fortune-telling, mind-reading, extreme extrapolation, overgeneralization, and labeling. These automatic responses, while efficient, often cloud our judgement leading to misinterpretations. But we've got you covered. We'll delve into how to avoid these cognitive traps, helping you to question assumptions and make mindful decisions.
Lastly, we tie it all together by examining the influence of upbringing and life experiences on our cognitive systems. Our focus: the disconnect between career politicians and the average American, a gap widened by the biases produced by these mental shortcuts. We challenge you to slow down your thought processes, and question your own assumptions. So, join us to rethink decision-making and judgements. It's a conversation that'll leave you questioning, analyzing and hopefully, jumping to fewer conclusions.
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Speaker 1:
Bro, bro, what's up?
Speaker 2:
last episode, we talked about the power of the mind. Yes, and this is pretty, a pretty specific Piece of that, but I wanted to break this out into a separate episode because I feel like this is something that people do every single day. Mother and the title of this is jumping to conclusions reminds me of Office space.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, which one makes the mat where you jump to conclusions.
Speaker 2:
Oh man, I don't remember that, I don't remember that anyway.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, I love your example in the last episode. Your bodice at the end of the day says, hey, what's have a meeting tomorrow morning and then you go home.
Speaker 2:
You go like what's that about? I'm absolutely obsessed. You create all these scripts in your head. You're like they're gonna lay layoffs.
Speaker 1:
Demoted yeah something went wrong. Something went wrong. I'm a piece of shit, yeah, that kind of thing. And then the next morning the boss is like oh wait, yeah.
Speaker 2:
I forgot which. Yeah, I mean, think about it, right. Just think, like when your spouse says like hey, why didn't you do the dishes? And you jump to the conclusion that they hate you and think that you're a terrible piece of shit.
Speaker 2:
Yeah it happens, some people are in that place in life. So we jump to conclusions. So we're gonna break it down today from a focus standpoint, from a science standpoint, and we're gonna hit this whole thing of One title. This episode could have been fact, fiction and focus, because sometimes we take a few facts.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, I turn it out a shit ton of fiction.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, create this series of short stories.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, yeah, you take your little. Yeah, that's never mind.
Speaker 2:
So, anyway, that's what we're talking about today. Let's dig in. I Write these are you, I have those. I'm Jonathan, oh, and I'm Brian Well this is the focus cast, where we help remove Distractions, increase focus so you can live a life with intentions. Sweet. Live a life on intention, in intention, with intention, with intention maybe right.
Speaker 1:
Does that make the most sense? I think so. All right, so we're talking about jumping to conclusions.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, it's a big one when it comes to focus, because we focus on a lot of bullshit that we create in our heads.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, you might even say Most of it's bullshit.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, most of it.
Speaker 1:
You know, yeah.
Speaker 2:
So we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna talk through this and then we're gonna come up with some nice little tips on Not jumping to conclusion. Fuck yeah, we got tips in here.
Speaker 1:
We got some tips in here, bro. All right definition seems pretty obvious, but we just threw it in there jumping. Jumping into conclusions is a phenomenon where people Reach a conclusion prematurely on the basis of an on the basis of insufficient information.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, man, the cognitive tendency of jumping to conclusions, abbreviated a JTC you abbreviation nerds out there is implicated in social anxiety and delusional disorders, and what researchers call the threat anticipation model from psychology today yeah, so the brain? The brain wants to function quickly, right, so it has some shortcuts.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, no, exactly, that's in here Somewhere nice.
Speaker 2:
No, seriously.
Speaker 1:
Oh it's, it's an efficiency thing. Yeah you know, because In there and a regular day, so you don't have to sit there and like analyze every single thing and try and get all the information all the time. Yeah, make some super informed decision, like you're buying a house. Imagine if it felt like buying a house, if you're just gonna say yes to someone asking you if you want, I like Whatever, go to lunch, go to lunch.
Speaker 2:
Yeah.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, you know things like that right. So, yeah, it's just being efficient. But in that sometimes people might have a tendency to jump to conclusions.
Speaker 2:
Yeah.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, this is in new research by the University of East University of East Anglia, uk's James Hurley and colleagues 2018 JTC interpretation. Bias is Is tested as a process that leads people to assume, wrongly, that a situation presents them with physical, social or physiological harm. Oh yeah, so a piece of this. In fact, if it's jumping to conclusions, I guess it's typically negative. Yeah it's not jumping to. I guess delusional would be like Everything's gonna work out. I'm gonna drink 40 beers and Drive a drive a Porsche that I rented.
Speaker 2:
I think that might be just and everything's gonna be fine. I'm like an idiot, but yeah, in this context, jtc is typically you're jumping to negative conclusions right, that is situation presents them with physical, social or physiological harm.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, yeah, everything. Everyone doesn't smile at you. They hate you. Yeah, they don't say good morning. They're pissed off at you. Yes your boss wants the meeting or whatever. We keep talking about that one. Yeah, someone's getting fired, yeah it's probably you. Yeah, suck, but yeah.
Speaker 2:
That sounds exhausting. Yeah, that sounds exhausting. So you're confronted with emotionally ambiguous situation and automatically conclude that the situation will come out badly for you Because other people are out to hurt you.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, jumping to conclusions, man, that does sound exhausting. So why, yeah? Why do we do this? Yeah, the main reason why people jump to conclusions is that our cognitive system relies on mental shortcuts, called heuristics. I just learned this term. Which increased the speed of our judgment and decision-making processes at the cost of reducing their accuracy and optimality. That's from Effective ology, damn so.
Speaker 2:
There it is, no it makes sense.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, you don't want to treat every single decision like your buying a house. Yeah, you know, a huge life changing decision every time Just to decide what color pencil you want to, what color pen you want to buy for the office.
Speaker 2:
Yeah.
Speaker 1:
So anyway, yeah, shortcuts make sense.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, You're just trying to function. Yeah, Um, I think. Have you met the person in a in a conversation where they finish your sentence constantly?
Speaker 1:
I don't hang out with those people. I cut them out of my life.
Speaker 2:
So there's people in this world, outside of your perfect life, jonathan, of wonderful human beings.
Speaker 1:
I gave them that, I gave them the axe.
Speaker 2:
You came to some conclusions on that. Get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 1:
Yeah.
Speaker 2:
But anyway. So yes, uh, for work environments or things like that, when you're in a meeting or something like that or you're talking to someone, there's certain people that certain people do this, there's really bad at it and, um, they'll just constantly assume that they know what you're going to say and then they just just step right over you and kind of finish your thought, even if it's not right, and keep going. Sounds like an extreme example of like someone who's pretty irritating, super obnoxious when jumping to conclusions.
Speaker 2:
It's like in an argument with a spouse and they're like they say something. I mean I've done this a few times. I've had to, I've had to stop myself or say like okay, that was wrong. Um, you know where my wife would start to say something and then I would finish and she's like that's not at all what I was going to say and I'm just like, oh, shit, I go not like an idiot.
Speaker 1:
And if you're doing that and you're wrong all the time, yeah, shut up, stop talking.
Speaker 2:
Oh, the concept of jumping to conclusions, generally seen as a cognitive bias, in cases where people jump to conclusions as a result of an imperfect way in which our cognitive systems work, which can cause us to rush ahead and make intuitive judgments. You know, it's funny, right, like?
Speaker 1:
hit the last bit without relying on sufficient information and a thorough reasoning process.
Speaker 2:
Oh, yeah, that's important, um, but what's crazy is like in a pursuit of efficiency games.
Speaker 1:
You lose accuracy.
Speaker 2:
So, anyway, what is it? What is the classic?
Speaker 1:
thing like speed, cost and time. Oh, no quality, quality, time and cost yes.
Speaker 2:
Cost time equality Pick two. Yeah, pick two.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, so you can't have it all.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, we're getting our house renovated and I was like I want to do this within my budget and I wanted to be good, so I'm just going to move out of my house and whatever is done, we'll move back in.
Speaker 1:
You've given up the time, I've given up the time, yeah.
Speaker 2:
I mean, once our family settled in an Airbnb outside of the house, like whatever. Yeah, it is what it is Like. I'm not going to want to move back.
Speaker 1:
Anyway, jumping to conclusions.
Speaker 2:
So here's some examples ways we JTC, jtc, bro, casual assumption, casual. Oh, I love these. Okay, um, these are great.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, this is just kind of a list of the most common or whatever, the ways that people jump to conclusions.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, so we have seven ways that human beings JTC and these are good, right JTC Number one casual assumption. Casual assumption involves making a relatively minor, intuitive assumption that is based on your preexisting knowledge, experience and beliefs. That's casual, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:
I bet, like assuming, I have had this friend for a long time and I'm just going to assume they don't want to do this because last time they said they don't give a shit about bowling.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, so I jumped to conclusions that they don't want to go.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, but they might want to go this time. Yeah, they want to see everyone. Yeah, you're jumping to conclusions.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, Preexisting knowledge, experience or beliefs.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, that's a very minor.
Speaker 2:
Yeah.
Speaker 1:
Example. That's about as minor as it gets, I think.
Speaker 2:
I feel like, hey, I want to go get Chinese and they're like I don't want Chinese. And then the next time you don't even recommend it Exactly. And then they're like I really want some Chinese and just like I don't know what you want. What the fuck? Last time you said it I think you might have an anger problem. Yeah, all right, what's next?
Speaker 1:
Inference, observation, confusion. Okay, this one's cool. This is an example. Would be like you think someone's rich because they have a nice car.
Speaker 2:
Inference observation. Right, so you observe something about them or around them, or that they do, and then you conclude who they are. Personality wise.
Speaker 1:
You just look at their Yeezys and you make all these assumptions. Yeah, and who?
Speaker 2:
would wear those.
Speaker 1:
I only have three pairs.
Speaker 2:
No, that's good, and I think right.
Speaker 1:
This happens all the fucking time. How we run, this is not even. This is normal. This is just life.
Speaker 2:
I think this is how our society runs. Yeah, why people buy nice cars? You know they can't afford it. Yeah, they want people to think that other people think you're rich.
Speaker 1:
You think you're cool because you have a Mercedes, but it's the bottom of the line Three, or I mean that's BMW. Yeah, that's, that's three. Yeah, that's BMW and BMW and C class C, class C as in crap, c as in cat shit.
Speaker 2:
I mean, if you're buying a luxury car and it's C class.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, s class for Mercedes.
Speaker 2:
We're G wagon.
Speaker 1:
That's it. Those are the only two.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, if you, if you got a G wagon, I think you're cool, I you know it's funny.
Speaker 1:
I have this association with G wagons of criminals. Yes, oh, mobsters, not necessarily white collar criminals too. Yeah, I just imagine shady business.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, just that. But that's just me. It's probably the movies, because every movie with every bad person has an entourage of G-wagons. It's true.
Speaker 1:
Every one of them, but they're just so impractical You've been conditioned. In fact, they're so stupid that they're awesome. Does that even make sense? But if you Like, there's these boxy inefficient.
Speaker 2:
If you're constantly in a state of potentially being in a shootout, they're probably a pretty practical car.
Speaker 1:
You know what? If I was a criminal like that, I would want a G-wagon with the armor Bulletproof, bulletproof armor. That thing would be a fucking tank.
Speaker 2:
I know when we reach a certain level we are going to go nuts overlanding in a G-wagon Overland G-wagon.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, sweet, sweet, all right, what's another one?
Speaker 2:
Fortune-telling. So fortune-telling involves assuming that you know exactly what will happen in the future. I'm going to fail this test. I'm not going to get this promotion.
Speaker 1:
Jump into conclusions this is not going to work out.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, I'm not going to get the promotion.
Speaker 1:
I'm not going to get anything.
Speaker 2:
That girl's not going to like me.
Speaker 1:
She's going to think I'm ugly.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, we know what that girl doesn't want.
Speaker 1:
Someone who thinks they're ugly.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, she wants someone who's confident and if you're the girl in like, she's not going to like me.
Speaker 1:
Man, she's probably not going to like you. Yeah, no one wants to be around that kind of energy.
Speaker 2:
Doesn't matter how ugly you are.
Speaker 1:
You show up with confidence.
Speaker 2:
Shhh Bam.
Speaker 1:
And you're funny and you're funny. This is for the boys out there. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2:
You show up in the club with confidence.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, you buy a round of drinks for a girl. Hey, who is it? Who's the comedian? The big guy, ralphie May. Yes, he's like, literally he has a whole skit. He's like I did pretty well for a fat guy Talking about, like, hooking up with chicks. I did pretty well for a fat guy. He's like.
Speaker 2:
He was probably, in my opinion, one of the funniest comedians. He was funny.
Speaker 1:
All right, what's next? Ok, mind reading yeah, here we go. Yeah, mind reading involves assuming that you can accurately know what the other person or people are thinking. This would be an example of like this person doesn't like me because they didn't say good morning or they didn't smile or yada yada. You just assume you know what's going on in their head. This funny is a lot of this shit is everyone's assuming all these things about other people and not thinking about the bullshit day that they are going through.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, maybe their day wouldn't be so bullshit if they weren't so worried about what everyone else is thinking.
Speaker 1:
Well, I'm just thinking like if you're having a day, yeah, and you're not looking at everyone smiling and happy, that doesn't mean you don't like them. That just means you have your own stuff going on.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, and certain people just RBF.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, rest in bitch face.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, like some people, just you just look at them and they're like that person hates me and they're like in their head going like I really like that person. That's a nice person, I'm glad to be here. They just jump in the conclusions Super introverted, just making shit up all day.
Speaker 2:
All day Extreme extrapolation. So extreme extrapolation involves taking a minor detail or event and using it in order to conclude something relatively major. I love this example you like heavy metal music. You worship Satan, yeah. Or like you voted for Trump, you must be a racist.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, that kind of thing All right.
Speaker 2:
It's like taking something Extreme extrapolation. Yeah, you know you live in a certain neighborhood, you know you must be this.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, you live here. You must be rich, or you live here, you must be poor. Yeah, you vote this way, you must be a. Whatever a degenerate, racist person Goes both ways.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, which is funny. Extreme extrapolation. Extreme extrapolation, taking something, making it extreme. I love it. Overgeneralization.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, overgeneralization involves taking a piece of information that applies to specific cases and then applying it everywhere.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, all cops are bad. Yep, all politicians are crooked or scum, yeah.
Speaker 1:
That type of thing.
Speaker 2:
Yeah All. Rich people are assholes.
Speaker 1:
Evil, yeah All poor people are lazy, all poor people are stupid.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, lazy, that's a good one yeah.
Speaker 1:
They think those are poor, they're lazy.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, which is all. These are not true, right? None of these are true. None of them are true.
Speaker 1:
None of it is true for everyone, because everyone is a person. Yeah, this is not.
Speaker 2:
Rich. Some rich people are very lazy. Yeah, because some poor people work really, really hard.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, so much people are trust fund babies. Yeah, they didn't have to do shit yeah.
Speaker 2:
So, some cops are great.
Speaker 1:
Yeah.
Speaker 2:
Some are not, some are terrible.
Speaker 1:
Turns out people are people.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, yeah, that's true Labeling. So labeling involves making assumptions about people based on behaviors or opinions that are stereotypically associated with the group that they belong to.
Speaker 1:
Hmm.
Speaker 2:
Yeah.
Speaker 1:
Yep, yeah, you know it's funny after reading these examples of jumping to conclusions. This just feels like how everyone operates all the time. Yeah, that basically everyone's spending all of their time just making assumptions about everything around them. Yeah, just think like what. And how much of it is wrong.
Speaker 2:
Most of it probably.
Speaker 1:
Like sit there and really audit yourself how much of this is actually right.
Speaker 2:
And how much is.
Speaker 1:
It is even relevant for you to even fucking think. How much does it even matter? How much does it matter? So I just don't think about anything, yeah.
Speaker 2:
I mean all these things. It's so good, though it really is good, because these are just so practical. Like we do this stuff all day, and what's crazy is, our brains are wired to do it. So if you don't want to do it, yeah, it's wired to be efficient.
Speaker 1:
Yeah.
Speaker 2:
If you don't want to be extremely biased towards every person that you see and put them in some group based on their race, their gender or their political affiliation or their religious affiliation. If you don't want to do that, you have to. You have to like consciously yeah, not do it. Yeah, like exactly, it's just, it's just how it is.
Speaker 1:
Yeah.
Speaker 2:
Which is funny, but it's we always it's. I love this exam. This is my favorite example. I think I've mentioned this a couple of times on the podcast, but if I'm late, it's my circumstance. If you're late, it's your character. Yeah, I love that quote.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, I mean that's like the classic boss type. I'm late.
Speaker 2:
Oh, you know, I had a rough morning. I worked really hard last night. You know, if you're late, you're lazy, you don't care.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, you don't own this, do you?
Speaker 2:
No, I don't, yeah. So it's like I was literally about to put my kid on the bus and he shit all over the place and I had to clean up an entire room of shit. Sorry, I'm 10 minutes late. What is?
Speaker 1:
it. Why were you late on Tuesday? Rules for the and not for me. Here's some shit. It's kind of lame, but you know it's true. It's true. That's how people operate.
Speaker 2:
That's how we operate. So some solutions. I love this absolute first bullet. We've got about five bullets here to help you pull yourself out of this constant state of jumping to conclusions, and it does require some intentional work, but here's the first one Slow the mother fuck down and force yourself to think through a given. So just slow down, think, slow your mind down.
Speaker 1:
Yeah.
Speaker 2:
Just just call yourself out. Just call your freaking self out, just slow down and be like oh man, I have this assumption about that person.
Speaker 1:
Oh why, yeah, this person's quiet. They don't like me, they're unhappy. Yeah, this person is this. Why don't they act a certain way? This is you. This is you Pushing what you think how someone else should act on someone else.
Speaker 2:
Yeah.
Speaker 1:
People are different.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, most likely. In that very specific example, it's that you weren't accepted by your parents, and so therefore, anyone around you that doesn't affirm you obsessively, you feel like that they don't appreciate you, or respect you so you just got to slow down.
Speaker 1:
You got to slow down and think through that yeah. And remember that everyone has their own shit going on, yeah, straight up.
Speaker 2:
Like I remember um, um. Anyone who knows me knows that I just I talk a lot to strangers. Yeah, Um, uh. My business partner, donnie, is from Savannah and we were in some hotel in LA LA. We were in the elevator and I was like what's up, man, where are you from? And he's like Savannah and me and Donnie just busted out laughing because we're in LA. Yeah, who's from Savannah?
Speaker 1:
Not many, that guy that guy the guy in the elevator, yeah, and it was just so funny and if you hadn't, if you hadn't talked to a random dude, you wouldn't have found out.
Speaker 2:
Yeah and um, but it's just like like at the end of the day, a lot of times, if you just go, just go talk to people, um, like I was, uh, this guy was uh, yeah, I assume he was homeless. He had a cart filled with stuff and he was walking on the road so I went and talked to him and, um, because he had a guitar and I was, and I had like 15 minutes uh to kill, I was like yeah, I was like, oh cool, I'm just going to go talk to him, that'd be fun.
Speaker 2:
So I'm talking to him and he's like. He's like, yeah, man, I got this guitar, I love my guitar all the time and, um, I'm just just saving up for a case so it doesn't get wet when it rains, and I'm just like this guy just he loves his guitar. He's just like. He was so kind he didn't have one negative thing to say. Yeah, he uh didn't ask me for money, he didn't ask me for a case, he was just, we were just talking.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, he's like human to human human to human, he's like yeah, man, he works in a person. We're all, we're all trying to figure things out. Not homeless guy to person who's on a business trip. Yeah, not, you know, person who has guitars and person who has one has, one needs a case, and needs a case I mean human to human. Yeah, that's crazy. So you could, you could have made a fuckload of assumptions. Oh, some another homeless drug addict probably try to be a musician, some fucking guy steals from his grandma to buy whatever drugs.
Speaker 2:
Yeah.
Speaker 1:
I mean people do this shit. Yeah, you know oh, here's another low life fucking street urchin and you just do all these things and it's horrible, I know, and you talk to him for five minutes. You're like oh it's great guy. Turns out people are people.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, yep, what's next?
Speaker 1:
Another thing we can do, bro, is actively ask yourself what information could help you reach a valid conclusion and how you can get that information.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, I love this. So the biggest tip, I think, and jumping to conclusions, is like be very mindful of what actual information you have, that's fact and what of it is just that's easier said than done, depending on where you're where you're getting it.
Speaker 1:
But yeah, yeah, if it's an office rumor, don't. Don't treat it like it's the gospel.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, just what? What do you know? My favorite thing to do is just a meet, just go straight up to someone and ask them. Like, if someone talks about me and I hear it through someone else, my favorite thing to do is just to go right up to him randomly and just say such and such said this. Did you say that?
Speaker 1:
Yeah, absolutely. We should all be doing that. Just just cut out all the middle man bullshit. What's the truth?
Speaker 2:
All the gossip? Oh, you didn't say that. Cool, all right. Oh, you did say that, why?
Speaker 1:
Yeah.
Speaker 2:
Why don't you say to me yeah, what's next? Collect as much information as you can before forming an additional hypothesis. Yeah, there we go. Question all your premises and ensure that they are well, well found, well founded Will found it. Will founded question All your premises. I mean, all this is just under like, just take time to think through it. Yeah, take time.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, why do I make all these assumptions about this group? Why do I do extreme extrapolation?
Speaker 2:
Yeah.
Speaker 1:
You know, why do I think that? Let's you know, whatever.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, and some of this is generational right, yeah, right, passed down. Like if you heard your parents say a certain thing about a certain group of people over and over again, you have to like, yeah, intentionally deprogram yourself.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, but same thing if you grew up with like the hyper religious thing.
Speaker 2:
Yeah.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, you know like, if you watch Lord of the Rings, you're worshiping Satan. Yeah, you know, yeah, or the opposite would be, so anti religious they're like oh, all these nut jobs are idiots. Yeah, you know like. Yeah, no, you can't have an entire group of individuals and every single one of them be Idiots. Idiots, yeah, people are people. People are people. Man, just trying to figure it out, just trying to figure it out, I mean, most of this shit is we talk about this, everything we're doing, all the subconscious decisions, yada, yada, yada. It's programming. You know right. Yeah, you were raised. Your parents said all this. You went to school. You hung out with these people. Yeah, how much of it is yours and how much is it that you picked up?
Speaker 2:
So many of us would like to think that it's yours, that it's all ours. I operate fully out of my will and that's just not true. That's fucking hilarious. And then they, and then someone cuts them off in traffic and they lose their mind.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, yeah, I mean, how much of it is yours and how much is it conditioning from everything, everything From being a kid, from your parents telling you not to play or not to be loud, not to do this, and squashing your spirit? You know you're playing with Legos, wrong, yeah All the way up to school.
Speaker 2:
Where every day you have to class, where you're told that you have to sit there and listen.
Speaker 1:
You have to. You have to raise your hand to take a piss. Yeah, you think, you think. You know. Thousands of years ago, humans were like can I go take a pee?
Speaker 2:
They're in the tribe.
Speaker 1:
They're in the tribe, you know can I go take a pee pee? No, you just piss you, just, if you go, you just go take a shit. You know you don't ask permission.
Speaker 2:
You know, I never thought about that.
Speaker 1:
These are the little things, the little things. These are the little ones, there's the big ones, but now we're getting down to like. But every every piece of obey and sit down and shut up from when you're a kid and don't do this and don't do that.
Speaker 1:
And then boys don't do this and girls don't do that. Yeah, do you do. You don't cry if you this and you don't do this, and you're just. Every, every time, a little piece of you that is your true self gets chipped away and conditioned yeah, and then you want to you want to act like you're yourself. You are just an amalgamation of all the shit that everyone told you you were supposed to be.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, and I'm not saying I figured it out, I'm trying to unwind it. It's a big fucking mess. You know it's a lot of twine. Yeah, but you have to think about everything that influenced you growing up.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, you know damn right.
Speaker 1:
So yeah, don't jump to conclusions.
Speaker 2:
Oh, man, on that note. Oh yeah, last piece.
Speaker 1:
Oh yeah, what do we got, ask yourself whether you might be rushing to form a conclusion too early.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, probably yes.
Speaker 1:
I think so probably.
Speaker 2:
And ask yourself if you even need to come to a conclusion.
Speaker 1:
Ask yourself if it matters. Does it matter, yeah, and are you really going to fail the test?
Speaker 2:
No, no, are all cops bad.
Speaker 1:
Cherokee County. I'm just kidding, I'm totally kidding.
Speaker 2:
Are all politicians corrupt? All of them I mean, I fall into the lens of some of them are extremely corrupt. The majority of them just found themselves in a system where they have to maintain corruption, but they're wealthy enough to where they've made themselves okay with it. Yeah, and then some of them are actively trying to do a good job, I think. And that's probably the majority of human beings in that construct.
Speaker 1:
What I think that some people don't think about is you can still be selfish and make selfish decisions for you and your family and still care about it.
Speaker 2:
Yeah.
Speaker 1:
Being a politician too. Yeah, I mean, I'd rather have a politician who cares about trying to do something great and might do some like shady money stuff on the side. That's honestly whatever. Yeah, it's par for the course really. Yeah, it is what it is. I mean, you don't get into politics to not make more money Right, to not use your knowledge and influence to increase your wealth. Yeah, we all do. Why the fuck would you join politics If that's not part of it? Yeah, so I get that.
Speaker 2:
But you can still care.
Speaker 1:
Right, you know, yeah, but then there's the ones that, the dinosaurs that are so disconnected. Right, the term limits. You know what everyone talks about term.
Speaker 2:
Oh my gosh. Yeah, what's his name? It just froze three times in the past two months.
Speaker 1:
Imagine you've been a career politician You've had, you know, bodyguards and private jets. Private jets flying around all this shit for 40 years, are you?
Speaker 2:
trying to give that up.
Speaker 1:
No, but I'm saying, how can? How can you even be connected to the average American at that point? I know, I mean, at some point you have to forget what it's like to even operate in modern world. Oh yeah, as a career politician. Oh yeah, because you're just your life is this. It's a completely different thing.
Speaker 2:
Yeah.
Speaker 1:
Get the dinosaurs the fuck out, get them out.
Speaker 2:
What's the? What's the story? The lady who her daughter has power of attorney over her, her entire state, but she's still an active like senator or congresswoman. I don't know that. One's been hitting the, hitting the feed quite a bit. I don't follow any of it. That's all bullshit to me. You jumping to conclusions, bro.
Speaker 1:
Yep, yep, you caught me. Red handed parts were cutting out.
Speaker 2:
It's almost you jumping to conclusions. Thank you for listening.
