The Focus Cast
#101 Mind-Body Fusion – Unleashing Focus through Physical Mastery
In our 101st episode, join us as we embark on a transformative journey, shifting our focus from mind to body, exploring the profound link between physical fitness and mental acuity, all while conditioning for the ultimate challenge—a 365-mile mountain biking race, the TNGA
Welcome to The Focus Cast, where we delve into the intricate connections between mind and body. After an enlightening 100 episodes dedicated to sharpening our mental focus, we're embarking on a thrilling new journey. Join us as we shift our focus to the physical realm, exploring the symbiotic relationship between the mind and body.
In this season, we're not just discussing the benefits of physical exercise; we're challenging ourselves to embody it. Our hosts are on a mission to understand how pushing physical boundaries can enhance cognitive abilities and overall focus. We'll be delving into scientific articles that unravel the mysteries of why activities like running, weightlifting, and yoga play a crucial role in optimizing mental performance.
But that's not all – we've set ourselves an audacious goal. Get ready to follow our hosts on their transformative journey as they condition themselves for the ultimate test – the 365-mile mountain biking race known as the TNGA (Trans North Georgia Adventure). Scheduled for August, this race will be a testament to the power of focus, determination, and the incredible potential that lies within the human body.
Join us every week as we explore the intersection of physical fitness and mental acuity, sharing insights, expert interviews, and personal experiences. Whether you're a seasoned athlete or just starting your fitness journey, The Focus Cast is your go-to source for unlocking the secrets to a focused and resilient mind-body connection. Get ready to pedal, push, and persist with us on The Focus Cast – where the journey to optimal focus begins in the body.
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In our 101st episode, join us as we embark on a transformative journey, shifting our focus from mind to body, exploring the profound link between physical fitness and mental acuity, all while conditioning for the ultimate challenge—a 365-mile mountain biking race, the TNGA
Welcome to The Focus Cast, where we delve into the intricate connections between mind and body. After an enlightening 100 episodes dedicated to sharpening our mental focus, we're embarking on a thrilling new journey. Join us as we shift our focus to the physical realm, exploring the symbiotic relationship between the mind and body.
In this season, we're not just discussing the benefits of physical exercise; we're challenging ourselves to embody it. Our hosts are on a mission to understand how pushing physical boundaries can enhance cognitive abilities and overall focus. We'll be delving into scientific articles that unravel the mysteries of why activities like running, weightlifting, and yoga play a crucial role in optimizing mental performance.
But that's not all – we've set ourselves an audacious goal. Get ready to follow our hosts on their transformative journey as they condition themselves for the ultimate test – the 365-mile mountain biking race known as the TNGA (Trans North Georgia Adventure). Scheduled for August, this race will be a testament to the power of focus, determination, and the incredible potential that lies within the human body.
Join us every week as we explore the intersection of physical fitness and mental acuity, sharing insights, expert interviews, and personal experiences. Whether you're a seasoned athlete or just starting your fitness journey, The Focus Cast is your go-to source for unlocking the secrets to a focused and resilient mind-body connection. Get ready to pedal, push, and persist with us on The Focus Cast – where the journey to optimal focus begins in the body.
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Welcome to episode 101 of the Focus Cast. Very nice, bro, a lot has changed.
Speaker 2:Yes, it has. Yeah, we started off with the Focus Cast. This will be a quick recap. Getting drunk in my room recording about random subjects yeah, that was phase one. Phase one. Phase two A little bit less drinking.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, I would say, phase two was from episode one to episode 100 was our journal.
Speaker 2:Basically.
Speaker 1:We set out to increase our focus.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 1:And through that we found absolute transformation.
Speaker 2:So here's what happens when you listen to podcasts and try and learn new information and expand your well of knowledge and just kind of grow every day doing this for a podcast, even if no one listens to it. The growth you gain from that is really the most important part. It wasn't even really about the listeners. I mean it wasn't about having a bunch of listeners.
Speaker 1:Which is what everyone says when they don't have a lot of listeners. How about this?
Speaker 2:We grew enough to where I'm OK with the fact that we still don't have many listeners. There you go, boom.
Speaker 1:That's the way to say it, there we go. Yeah, our personal growth was so significant in the past two years that who cares?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so phase three, phase three, so we introduce ourselves oh yeah, I'm Jonathan.
Speaker 1:Noel and I'm Brian Noel, and this is the FocusCast when we help founders reduce distractions, increase focus so we can live a life with intention. Yep, so yeah, that was phase one. Phase two, and on Instagram I wrote the shift in internal scripts from my therapy work. So I thought this would be a good way to kind of close out phase two recap, which is we got dialed in, bro. We set up the office here in Kennesaw, got a new podcast studio, a bunch of new equipment and really worked on the art of podcasting, and then you and I, both kind of individually, went really deep on just increasing our mental focus and whatever we want to call it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, whatever, yeah, our just awareness in the health space Transformation is kind of overused now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well yeah, but we can just say it's been very good I feel different.
Speaker 2:I feel different too, today than I did on January 2022. 2023., 2023. And going back and listening to the old episodes, I mean they were pretty funny because we're just giggling. You know there's nervous laughter. We're saying things and just laughing. I don't know what that's like for the listener. I don't know if that's obnoxious or if it's. You know they're giggling with us, charming, yeah, I don't know. Or if it's like I can barely listen to this and this is awful, but that was us easing into this, yeah.
Speaker 1:And then we got into some good subjects, like when I had some milestone moments. We got into disassociation. We got into the internal family systems. Fear Talked a lot about fear last year, but man, wow, what a transformation, no doubt. So here are some scripts that in 2023 are changed. So when I say script, what I mean by that is a mental, internal narrative, nice, so a core belief at the subconscious level that I wasn't aware of OK and you had some scripts change last year.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so first one you should hate. So one thing that was I was struggling with. I'm not someone who just hates people or hates things, but I hated the government, I hated the globalist, I hated a lot of things and I just had a lot of internal hate subconsciously that I didn't really know was there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I hated myself.
Speaker 1:So the new script is to hate externally is a reflection of hate internally.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:The good and bad in the world is just a projection of the good and bad that I am capable of what is it?
Speaker 2:as above, so below.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've never heard that before, but I like that.
Speaker 2:Basically, whatever's going on on the outside for you is really a reflection of how you feel on the inside.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So what I can honestly say and I'm sure, as I read these, it's very important to say these aren't like I flipped a switch, these are just new scripts that now, when I hit triggers or experience tough times, I get to now lean into the new script, yeah, and not be unaware of the subconscious and just freak out Right. So the second one is the world is ending. I spent a lot of time and a lot of hours, yeah.
Speaker 2:On the old. Instagram experience eCorner Big time, where everything and even though most things are a scam and things of that nature, there is a lot to ponder.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Let's say, you know.
Speaker 1:Well, here's my new script. What's the new script? You ready for this? It always has been, and I'm not of this physical world anyway, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2:The world's been ending since it started Yep. For someone, somewhere, or some reason or another, it's felt like their world was ending.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And that's. Maybe it's by design or not. It depends on who you're talking to.
Speaker 3:But yeah.
Speaker 2:A lot of fear and certainty and doubt pumped into the collective consciousness to keep people in that state.
Speaker 1:Anyway, yeah, but the new script. I'm not of this physical world anyway. The fear of the world ending is fear of losing myself. Before I found myself Like the world can't end. I don't even know who I am yet you know. But now it's like I'm not of this physical world, like it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1:This really doesn't matter, and here's what's so wild I don't spend. First of all, I did a major overhaul in my social feeds to where I'm not just constantly in the algorithms getting fear porn. Same. I had to unfollow or do no. So now, if before I would spend hours watching that shit, now if I just get five minutes of it, I'm just like nope.
Speaker 2:Not today.
Speaker 1:Yep.
Speaker 2:It's amazing. It's way better.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:What is the quick thing? From what did TG say? The what she focused on gets bigger.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So if you only focus on, the world is ending, your world is ending Literally.
Speaker 1:Because you're letting it consume you. Yeah, until you die of a panic attack.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:OK. The next one is this business must succeed. It's got to succeed. I've got to make it work. I've got to make it work because my value is tied into that. But here's the new script. I will be curious and creative forever. However that plays out, Yep.
Speaker 2:There's plenty of businesses to start Plenty yeah, plenty of projects.
Speaker 3:There's plenty of ideas.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it doesn't have to do anything. Yeah, yep, that's when you're more tied to the outcome than the actual work.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and what's great is that's been tested. That one's been tested for the past couple of like two months. Yeah, because some things are taken a little longer or not working, and I'm literally in the moment I'm just like You're not upset about that. I'm just like I'm never really upset about that. No, it's pretty well. The next one is be present with your family, because that's your job. That's the script. That was the manager in the internal family system. The new script is I am nowhere but where I am, yeah, I don't have to tell myself to be present.
Speaker 3:I am present.
Speaker 1:Yep, I don't have to manage my presence. I'm present, and that's very new for me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like that's moving past this association.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a big one.
Speaker 2:It's a different reality for you, oh my gosh, I love it.
Speaker 1:You are inadequate to provide for the future. So you know we talked about this quite a bit If you obsess and disassociation, if you obsess over the future, you're anxious. If you obsess over the past, you're depressed. I didn't do enough. I'm not doing enough For me. I lived in that. I'm not doing enough. So the new script is there is no future. The future doesn't exist. It's pretty simple, huh? I fed my family today.
Speaker 2:I mean, the future is not determined. Yeah, there's no guarantee that it will be there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean it literally doesn't exist. The only thing that exists is right now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you can obsess about it's basically like the boogeyman. Yeah, it really is, you know Anyway.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you are dead.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you thought you were dead inside. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I felt dead inside. So this was a big one. My existence is completely separate from my father's desire for me to exist, so I still was attached to this need for my father to need me to be alive, and whether he did or not, that didn't even matter. It didn't even matter, but I detached from that. That one was a good old rest hall. I remember that day. The next one is you are cursed, yeah.
Speaker 2:So I think you remember these.
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:I think that there's probably a decent amount of people who have this script. Yeah, yeah, I am cursed. I think they're cursed because they always hit the red light. They always do this, it never goes right. They always get the parking ticket. Things like that.
Speaker 1:Get the bad partner, get the bad business partner, get the bad friendship, get the bad boss. So the new script is God did not sacrifice me to Satan. Oh, I thought that it's funny. It's not like I was walking around, like you didn't think that. Yeah, I wasn't consciously thinking.
Speaker 2:That you were sacrificed.
Speaker 1:I'm some heavy, deep EMDR and therapy work. I realized that I thought God left me for Satan in the crib when I was about six months old. I went back to that space, anyway, but he did not, and he was there all along. And he's there. The creator is always there. Yeah, it's nice. Yeah, it's really nice. Yeah, that's a big difference.
Speaker 2:Unconditional love is way better than abandonment yeah.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, alright, this is the last one. You're ready for this?
Speaker 2:You're gonna love this.
Speaker 1:Okay, masculinity is managing misery without fucking up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's the hell with script to carry.
Speaker 1:How many men can relate to that?
Speaker 2:I mean, that's a heavy script to carry around all the time.
Speaker 1:I mean, I'm gonna read it one more time. Masculine, I like how many Ms. It was too Masculine. And again, these weren't like things I was saying in my conscious. These are things that I learned, that were buried deep in my subconscious, internal scripts. Masculinity is managing misery without fucking up. Yeah, and my new script that I wrote here is nope.
Speaker 2:Nope Wrong. That's not true. That's not true. That's simply not true.
Speaker 1:Masculinity is beautiful.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you heard it here, folks.
Speaker 1:Masculinity is magnificent. So that's just a small taste of you know. I've been kind of, you know, the holidays and I had some time and so I've just been kind of reflecting on the last year and some of the awesome, incredible milestones that I've been so, so, so fortunate to yeah, To hit or go through. That's wonderful.
Speaker 2:Imagine what 2024 is gonna do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's, I wrote in my. It was in preparing for my last therapy session in January. So the new year, I said how does one celebrate or plan for a new year when time doesn't exist? That was my first line and that's what we'll talk about today, because it's really interesting that in our phase three of the focus cast, it's not really because it's 2020. Yeah, in 2024, we just kind of naturally fell into this. Every 50 episodes is when we just decide to move into whatever's next.
Speaker 2:It's like 50 episodes is a nice sprint. It's a decent cycle, yeah, not to mention every winter. It seems like when it's winter and you're inside a lot and you're just sitting there plugging away on a computer, you start to realize what you despise and what you don't want to do with your time. Yeah, so I don't. We're in a dungeon right now. Let's be real. There's no windows, yeah, concrete walls, yeah, and it's tough.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:This wall that you're seeing right here is ground.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's literally earth behind that concrete wall, so we are 12 feet under.
Speaker 2:Literally it feels like it sometimes. We're deeper than a grave bro, a grave of our own design. But that's not to say this hasn't been a great opportunity. And we haven't learned a shitload of things this year, last year, it's balanced right, right.
Speaker 1:So how did this happen? So now talking about the next phase, right? So what happened?
Speaker 2:Well, we bounced a couple of things off of each other, but I was like I'm not really seeing the value. Yeah, we don't really have an audience. Yeah, you know, there's no one saying like, maybe there are there, yeah, we don't have. I wasn't feeling the feedback like, hey, no feedback at all. So I wasn't really feeling the value.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and doing any of it yeah.
Speaker 2:It's one thing. I get a personal trainer. I get anyone. Yeah, if you're doing something and people are like, hey, this is great, thank you.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I received something from this. Yeah, and I get it. It's not like we expected that to happen after two months.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3:I was reaching that point, though, because it had been a couple years yeah.
Speaker 2:And I think that's totally fine. Yeah, and then we're also inside a lot, yeah. So when I brought that up and then you're like I don't want to be, you brought up the we need to go on a hike or something. How did you word?
Speaker 1:it. I want to destroy myself physically.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:It kind of started to. This was so kind of timeline wise. So at the end of last year I was like I've got this whole series for founders and I do. I still have it but the motivation and the desire to fully write out that, make sure it's of quality and deliver, that I was like Felt like torture. Felt like torture, yeah, and this was Thursday, so we had planned on doing it but we kind of pushed it off. Planned on doing it, kind of pushed it off, got Really made some cool music that we're going to release over the Right before the Christmas break. So we just really had some fun on some music. And then it was Thursday last week.
Speaker 2:And today's Monday.
Speaker 1:And today's Monday, and I came in and I could see it on your face that you were like all right, bro, like previous, last week we were talking about it and I was like we're gonna do this for founders. And I could see it on your face You're like I support you. And then I was just like. I came in and I was just like I can't do it.
Speaker 2:It felt impossible.
Speaker 1:Felt impossible. And now, 12 months, I started therapy January 22, I think of 2023. So I'm coming up on a year of intense about 35 therapy sessions breath work, all kinds of stuff. Yeah, and something is absolutely calling me to physically go nuts, To just wreck the body To have some physical challenges?
Speaker 2:Yeah, because I've never. I've never had those. You know, there's people who plan whatever their Iron Man's or their yeah, 5ks or marathons or whatever the hell they do yeah, whatever it may be, whatever, I've never. I've never had those kind of goals Me either. I just do it. I go on hikes. I've been on a 20 mile hike, yeah.
Speaker 3:We ride.
Speaker 2:We go mountain biking a lot, you know, and it's not like we have to hit 100 miles, it's more like we just have to have enough fun.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's more like a fun meter. It really is, but you know, I realized I definitely had to do the. There's a 357 mile ride.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And, like you, were on board pretty much immediately.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I think we're both going to do it no matter. I want to do it, no matter what yeah? And I figured you were going to do that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So Well, it came up last year. It came up last year, but it wasn't enough time to prep. No, because we, because we're not David Goggins yet but to only have like a couple of months to prepare for something like that. Well, we weren't mentally there, we weren't mentally ready. Yeah, we didn't have that mental. I didn't have that mental fortitude. Yeah, I'm not saying I do, but I will, yeah, so we're doing a 357 mile bike ride across North Georgia. Yeah, it's going to be trails and gravel.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a lot of climbs 35,000 feet in elevation. Try and do it in five minutes.
Speaker 2:That's how long the race is open.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So in that comes conditioning.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Real conditioning. I've never done, real conditioning.
Speaker 1:Me either Didn't play sports in high school.
Speaker 2:I've been physically active, yeah, racquetball, mountain biking, hiking, whatever. But I've never done like conditioning with focus.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I've never done yeah.
Speaker 1:And I've never, on top of that, a physical activity where I'm crying because I hurt so bad, but I keep going.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I've never had that happen before.
Speaker 2:Or yeah, you reached that point where your body's screaming to quit, but you have to keep going.
Speaker 1:Yeah, now I've been in my shed and I've cried because I didn't want to. I didn't want to, I didn't want to do anything else in life, but that was, that was mental. I've never experienced that physically. So it's time, it's time and here's the way I, for me personally, my coming to this conclusion of, like phase three is physical, physical time to kill ourselves physically is I don't know, killing is pretty harsh, but yeah. It's gonna feel like that, pushing past the body's screaming.
Speaker 2:Yes, quick, quick, quick Right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for me it's a couple of things. So this is, this is how I got to this, since my significant. I know people say ego death a lot and that's fine. All of these things mean very different things to a lot of different people right.
Speaker 1:Everyone's experience is very individual. So, yeah, anyway, but for the sake of whatever I want to call it, not explaining it for 10 minutes for my major ego, death experience on November 11th 2023. From then, I've read a lot, so I've just been super curious. Yeah, my curiosity level has just went through the roof. Explode, yeah.
Speaker 2:Explode.
Speaker 1:Explode, exploded. So I'm on, like I don't know, 25, 26 books. I'm just like constantly consuming. And out of all this I think for me I've personally articulated kind of the whole picture of the thing, right, and that is there's trauma, right. Trauma spreads us, spreads our mind out right when we're fragmented.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And then when we do mental work then that defragments and kind of pulls us back in alignment to what our body. So now that I've done 12 months and that's not going to stop it's not like I'm going to stop doing the mental work and start doing the body work yeah, just to continue to even go deeper.
Speaker 2:To integrate the physical.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I want to do both mind and body work this year and really push myself physically like I was able to push myself mentally last year. Yeah, and that's where it was just like bro.
Speaker 2:There's a. I imagine doing these kind of bigger challenges for physical helps you confront other things.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That all it all kind of adds to the, to the same machine here of us being a person.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know it's. It all adds to the portrait.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 2:Each brush stroke or whatever. However you want to put the shit, it doesn't matter. If you're confronting a massive race, yeah, you know that's going to help you confront maybe something you don't want to do car, a hard conversation. Yeah, being real with yourself. Yeah, maybe I don't want to do this business or I don't want this whatever. Yeah, doesn't matter. Yeah, in search situation. I mean it all, it's all one system.
Speaker 2:So yeah it's increasing that level of confront in a new way. Yeah, and you know, testing yourself. Yeah, why not, why not? There's really no reason not to.
Speaker 3:I mean, we have these bodies.
Speaker 2:I don't have to. I mean I don't want to. I don't want to destroy myself to where I'm mangled. Yeah, Okay, it's not about that.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But I don't have to die in pristine condition. Yeah, you know it's okay if I'm a little, you know I want to use the body. Yeah, you know, not necessarily borderline crippled by the time I'm 65.
Speaker 1:Not like that. Yeah, but you get what I'm saying. Well, that goes both ways right, like inactivity Same thing Inactivity is, you're also destroying your body yeah.
Speaker 2:So yeah, but you know, I guess I'm not going to start whatever playing football with. Yeah, yeah, anyway, yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Boxing without helmet, yeah, headgear, yeah, 100% Right. And that's I mean we talked about. The body keeps the score, because that was a book I was reading last year, yeah, and that was pretty eye-opening for me. And my friend just sent another book about the body and our relationship to the body and our mind, and so I'm pretty excited to read that. But I mean, you know, I mean I was Last year when I learned that you know, a lot of the mental game we think is like somewhere in our head that we evolved into right, so we kind of forget that our body stores trauma, you know, yeah, and the best.
Speaker 2:So basically the whole body is a storage unit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for everything For everything, yeah, and every cell has capacity to store.
Speaker 2:That's why you have random memories come up and you know massage therapy.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, could be completely benign memory. It could be so random, not totally neutral.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But, it'll just it's absolutely wild, yeah, and so yeah. So that's so now what that looks like for us on the Focus Cast is and I want to record more outside Like I had the random idea of like us doing this in the woods- yeah. And it just technically requires some work. But like Friday we went and hiked. So I came in on Thursday and I was like bro.
Speaker 2:This is torture. Let's change it up.
Speaker 1:Let's change it up, forget everything that we just decided that we were going to do. Yeah, and let's just go nuts physically, let's go do some challenging things in the future and let's just film more outside. Let's just get it more outside, yeah. And I mean, if you look at our social feeds, like if you look at TikTok, it's literally this profile for like 10,000 clips.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So we'll see more of us outside and just more of our personality and more of our individuality and stuff like that. Yeah, versus two dudes in a studio, which is Two white dudes in a studio, is. There's plenty of that, there's plenty of that content in the world, so, and there's plenty of content of.
Speaker 2:Two white dudes in the woods.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But, that's just there's not enough, whatever. Anyway, yeah, keep going, yeah.
Speaker 1:So for us getting outside doing these challenging things, and then I'm still our desire to include founders, serve founders, all that kind of stuff. That won't change, in fact, before the hike on Friday morning, because if anyone knows me personally, they know that I'll text them and be like hey, what are you doing right now? You want to go on a hike, yeah, or you want to go on a weekend trip, and. But I called like 10 people.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:And I was like we're going to a hike, we're going to do Pine Mountain five times 4,000 feet elevation.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's 10 minutes down the road and I was just like you want to join me it's a short hike, but we're just going to do it up and down.
Speaker 2:Yeah, over and over again, yeah.
Speaker 1:Five times and two people came out. So I'm going to keep doing that. I'm just going to invite people out Technically. A third Because Carter showed up.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's right. Carter showed up at the last time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so three people.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And that was just.
Speaker 2:And just think, by the end of 2024, we'll send them mass texts. We might have 30 people. Yeah, and that's the kind of shit I want.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know why not? Why not? Because, I mean, maybe we've talked about this before, but we had our friend out, chad.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:We were on one of the four runner gunner trips and we rode. Gosh, how much do we ride on that one?
Speaker 3:20 something miles.
Speaker 2:Yeah, 20 something miles and we're eating some amazing food steak sandwiches After a cold plunge, after a cold plunge. And Chad was like you know, he's a busy dude with kids, a family.
Speaker 3:And he's like what'd?
Speaker 2:I say I haven't. This is one of the best weekends I've had in 10 years. That physical release and I think this is a little different for guys Not saying women don't get the amazing sensation, but there is something where you almost Maybe you can do it in other ways, bro, that I don't know about, but there's something very Well yeah, I can think of some, but you know what I mean there's something about that physical release.
Speaker 2:I don't want to say it's absolutely necessary, but it damn sure feels good to do a bike ride and a cold plunge and you just finally feel like yourself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know We've mastered. Well, I won't say we've mastered, but we've got the best ingredients and that's physically riding until we can't anymore, doing a cold plunge and then making an epic meal from scratch, and then sitting by a fire and eating it.
Speaker 2:You know what I realized about it. It makes a really good mountain biking trip is usually the first like 70% of it is amazing. And the last 30% you're almost, you're ready to be done.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But that 30% actually makes it better because, you forced yourself to keep going. I'm just now realizing that, as we're talking about it, yeah, and that's what makes the cold plunge so great. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because for me I mean usually my back starts hurting when we do these long, long rides and it's rocky. My back starts hurting something you know, or my If we're going downhill my wrist, my arms and all that. And then I start to crave, like when we went to a chickapee and my legs locked up. And then I crave the cold plunge, because the cold plunge makes all that pain go away. It literally disappears. And then after the cold plunge, we haven't eaten all day, minus a couple of snacks, because you and I both don't eat breakfast. So we've done 20 miles, 30 miles. Haven't eaten but a couple of snacks, drank a ton of water, got the cold plunge and then we eat an epic meal.
Speaker 2:That is the perfect formula. It really is. So, all that to be said, we heard it from Chad. Yeah, it was a great weekend. He needed it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he literally needed it and that was the immediate feedback that we got Right. That felt great Right. And then some guy that hadn't been on a four-runner gunner trip he went on one of them before but a guy that two totally different circles he's not in the studio all day on a podcast talking about focus came out, hung out with us and had a great time Went out.
Speaker 2:The point is let's expand on that and keep going, let's do more of that. So 30 people out on the hike.
Speaker 1:Why not?
Speaker 2:Why not? Why not? There's no reason not to invite them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, crazy hikes, insane Skydiving.
Speaker 3:Yeah, squirrel suits down the mountain.
Speaker 1:Is that physically? I mean, I guess that pumps a lot of adrenaline, yeah, but yeah, so that's 2024. So we're just going to get a lot of outside footage randomly. Yeah, get a tracker progress and post-progress on social like. On Friday we started at 10 o'clock, we did.
Speaker 2:I want to be able to hike 25 miles and not feel like I'm dying.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And not flat either. Some elevation.
Speaker 1:We did for our first hike in this journey. We did 12 miles, 4,000 feet elevation in four and a half hours.
Speaker 2:Pretty much power walked it too, yeah, we power walked.
Speaker 1:Four hours, 12 miles, I mean 4,000 feet elevation is not nothing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's not like we're not pioneers. Yeah, but it doesn't matter, it's a starting point.
Speaker 1:It's January, yeah, so we're going to keep doing that hike when we can't ride and we're going to add sandbags so get up to 50 pounds and be able to do that yeah, either more times up and down or wait, and eventually both. Yeah, and then Monday or tomorrow we're going to do. I think the most we've done on the mountain bike is like 26 miles in a day, I think.
Speaker 3:Something like that, because Mulberry, we did 26 and then 16 the next day.
Speaker 2:Okay yeah, and that was pretty physically demanding because we did that mile and a half hike in bike situation Lifting the 30 pound bike over 40 logs, 40 fallen trees yeah, that was a huge pain in the ass.
Speaker 1:But so tomorrow's goal it's January 10th tomorrow, I think, or whatever. The race is in August, Right? I think it's like August 15th and the race is 360 ish miles, 35,000 feet of elevation.
Speaker 2:So we have to be able to get to the point where we can do 70 miles in a day, a little over 70, like 71 point, something a day for 350,. I think it's 357 miles.
Speaker 3:Yeah, in five days yeah.
Speaker 2:Right, that's the math, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:Something like that. So now we're starting. We started training on Friday with a hike and then tomorrow. Our goal is 30 miles, which is like five 10 minute breaks at each 10 mile mark and hit 30 miles. And our terrain here is going to is more difficult when we train, which is good because it's more single track elevation versus the race itself is a lot of gravel.
Speaker 2:A lot of gravel but a lot of climbing. Yeah, a lot of climbing, a lot of climbing, which our friend Clay he's a freak who likes to climb. Yeah, and he just like and his bike weighs like four ounces, yeah, and so he just flies up the hills, yeah, like literally flies up them. So, we got to get to that point where climbing is easy. Yeah, and it is easy for short periods of time. Yeah, and you know I we're not doing like a 10 mile climb.
Speaker 3:Yeah no-transcript.
Speaker 2:Easily for fun. Yeah, that's just not something I do, yeah, but we need to make. We need to get to the point where we can do 10 mile climb, yeah, like without it feeling like much. Yeah, road bikers right now are like Round bikers no stamina.
Speaker 1:So the other thing I want to try, bro, so I've told you I want to do Tai Chi yeah. What the reason I'm interested in Tai Chi is because of the full range of movement and stretching that you get in Tai Chi and it's also very meditative practice. So it's kind of the reason I've never done Tai Chi. This is just my assumption, based on looking at people do it, but based on the movements. It's very flowy, which I like.
Speaker 1:It's very stretchy, which I need, and yeah and it's a lot of balance work, so it kind of incorporates balance yeah meditation and Range of motion. It's great.
Speaker 2:So what I did, tai Chi, is amazing. It only takes about 10 years for it to really feel natural for you. Yeah, no, tai Chi is. I've only done a handful of times too.
Speaker 1:What it was the same Ten years from now. I'll be really glad I started today.
Speaker 2:Yeah, damn right, oh, I love it because it's about moving energy. Yeah you know, for some people they're gonna be like what the hell is that even mean? But whatever, yeah, moving the energy, the Chi, to the body.
Speaker 1:It's great, yeah. What's timing? No idea. T H I. I don't know why is the first tie I, in the second I just II Tai Chi, anyway, whatever. So, yeah, I want to add that Some Tai Chi, and then I want to. I really want to get a personal trainer to work on core and upper body strength, just to just to yell at me and make me do 50 push-ups. Yeah, upper body.
Speaker 2:Yeah, my upper body, it needs some love. Yeah, you know years of mountain biking. I'm not saying like, my legs are Trunks trunks but their way is not balanced. My legs are. I'm way have way more strength and stamina with my Doing leg workouts than I do upper body.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you got them thunder thighs thunder thighs yeah and then.
Speaker 2:I've been kind of known for the calves, calf daddy, yeah, but you know, with martial arts it's not all. I mean, yeah, your leg strength, actually what it? When you lose your legs, you lose your life. Yeah, it is important because your legs are everything. It's how you get around. But I Need to work on some upper body strength and definitely core. I've been avoiding core strength basically my whole life.
Speaker 3:Yeah, cuz I.
Speaker 2:I don't like sit-ups. Yeah, cuz it makes my back hurt. Yeah, when you say it like that, it makes you sound like a 10 year old.
Speaker 3:It makes my back here.
Speaker 2:I don't like sit-ups Well and these are the things that you realize, like I've been avoiding this for too long. Yeah, that's time to just you know, the things that are easy are easy now. Yeah, it is easy to go mountain biking. Yeah it's not easy to do scissor kicks. Yeah for, you know, for 10 minutes, so we can keep doing the easy shit. For the rest, of our lives and be the exact same person and never learn and Just live in the loop. Yeah, and that's fine if you want to do that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I just I realized now what I've been avoiding a lot of things, yeah, and this is one of them yeah.
Speaker 2:So upper body shake, I want to be able to do 100 push-ups to yeah and like one sitting. Yeah, right now I can maybe do like 30. Yeah, so Pull ups and that's yeah in one sitting, but also multiple times too, if I really need to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she can do things that we want to do. The. If I'm stuck in a hole and I can't even pull myself out, that's not good. It's not good. The other thing is If there's 50 zombies behind me. Yeah and there's a lake in front of me. I'm not a good long-distance swim.
Speaker 2:I've been avoiding swimming basically my whole life too.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm not great at it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm just saying it right now. Me too, I am a slow, inefficient Dog, shit swimmer. Yeah me too at the moment. Yeah not forever remember the growth mindset. That's right and that needs to change as well. Yeah, I.
Speaker 1:Mean almost drown when I was a kid so always blamed it on that. I mean I can swim.
Speaker 2:I can swim too. Yeah, I mean I can limp around in the water. Yeah, I don't know if I call swimming, but yeah. I can Swim from one side of the pool to the other, yeah, I can do what? 30 yards, yeah. And then I'm like Getting ready to stop. I don't know how to float. I Feel like I just sink. Yeah, me too, even. I do all the things you're supposed to do, so this is great. Yeah this is something we've both been avoiding as well.
Speaker 1:That'd be funny if us brothers took swimming lessons.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well then, that then we can do the triathlon.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I basically rode off triathlons my as long as I've been doing physical activity because of swimming me too, because I'm like I just like I can't. This is the things you tell yourself. The scripts.
Speaker 3:I can't swim.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I Just haven't learned how to be more efficient at it yet yet yet yeah, I mean I'm gonna do is take lessons.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:There's got to be some technique.
Speaker 2:I didn't know how to edit Everything. I know how to do. I didn't know how to do at some point. Yeah, so you know, it's just that simple.
Speaker 1:You know, I've always been good at eating Oreos.
Speaker 2:You didn't have to learn how to do that, that just came naturally. I.
Speaker 1:Mean, I don't know. Kids choke on stuff, so I guess I learned how to swallow at some point.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, that's exciting, bro, learn how to swim. Yeah, for some. For some reason, I want to take dance lessons.
Speaker 2:Why not? You know, elizabeth can.
Speaker 1:Samba around.
Speaker 2:Samba around.
Speaker 1:Spice it up, spice it up, spice it up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, nice how long we been rambling.
Speaker 1:nice 38 minutes, so Anything else so we're just gonna keep honestly, now it's, it's. I mean, we've said this, I'll say it again. This has been more of a journal for us, which is great, yeah, and so we're gonna journal this next phase, which is Setting some physical goals. The 360 mile race is the big goal for the year. It's gonna take a lot of training and so we're gonna start training for that. We're gonna do that. I think. If I can, I'm gonna hire Photographers and videographers to go out with us to capture that.
Speaker 2:Moment and if you want to go out and try it, it's the T and GA.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:T and GA, if you want to hop in with us, yeah, that'd be killer. I want us to. By the time it's, we're approaching it because it seems I'm not, I wouldn't say scared, but apprehensive. Yeah you know I understand the task at hand. Yeah, to a degree. Yeah, you know, it's not like all high-fives, like it's gonna be sick.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm a little nervous. I'm a little nervous. Yeah, my gooch is nervous. My gooch is way nervous. It's the most nervous thing.
Speaker 2:It's my, my gooch is my gooch is terrifying. I got those gooch bumps, yeah so, but by the time we get there to where it's, you're not really you're just it feels like you, you conditioned.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You feel prepared? That's the word. Yeah, yeah, not like a fish out of water. Yeah so, and I think Just having this goal in August and the amount of conditioning we're gonna do by the time we get there will be completely different, oh my gosh completely different people yeah, so anyway it's great. It's great. It seems like a good time frame and a good goal, a nice Something to work towards. Yeah, that's. It seems Intimidating enough. Yeah that's what I realized. I don't really ever set intimidating goals for myself ever yeah.
Speaker 2:You know those people who do that. Yeah one after the other.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I've avoided, I've been comfortable. Let's just call it what it is.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I've been sitting in comfort for my whole life. That's. We're just really good down to the meat potatoes here.
Speaker 1:It's just that simple, so I Don't want to sit in comfort only in the words of the warehouse staff at the office You've been living your cushy little nerf life.
Speaker 2:Yes, wow, let's see if I can Wiggle my way out of the comfy you know the comfortable, whatever bed I've made for myself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Well, I think, for I've set aggressive business goals and financial goals and all that kind of stuff, and I'm that kind of that. That kind of life is what Annoyed me right in therapy. That's what I'm not doing anymore, like, like you know, constantly was like this has got to work, it's got to work. So for me, it's very therapeutic To where now in business, I'm honestly just like Whatever I'm, I am I and I've asked myself over the past couple of weeks Is it true? Is it gonna come back? Because I've obsessed over entrepreneurialism and trying to be successful as an entrepreneur and a business person most of my adult life. Yeah, and and Now I'm just like, if I have to get a job, I have to get a job if this business works. If it doesn't, I'll try another one, like I. Honestly, it feels so good to not give a fuck.
Speaker 2:But I feel like that's what being an entrepreneur is. I, I, will see. I mean, it's the first time I've ever been almost like the mindset is I'll do whatever I have to do in this moment, but I know that there's more opportunities. Almost like entrepreneur mindset is you see opportunities more than seeing, than limiting them. Yeah, you know, yeah.
Speaker 1:So that's We'll, see.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:For me anyway. Yeah, we'll see if, if not being so focused on it has to work, makes it actually work more. We'll see, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Who knows? Because there's all the you know half of the internet. I don't know half, but a lot of the internet is just like the grind culture stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it might not work now because I don't care.
Speaker 2:And that that's almost honestly. That's a whole other conversation. Yeah, because it's like do you force yourself to make it work even though you want to die? Yeah, because that's what it takes. Yeah, you just work on something that feels lighter to your, to your spirit.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And you can actually work harder on it without feeling like you're dying. I'd rather work hard on something that doesn't make me feel like I'm dying. Yeah, so it doesn't feel that hard, yeah.
Speaker 1:So Well, I think the big question there and again, this is a whole another episode that we can do one day in the woods if we want but why does it have to work?
Speaker 2:You know, yeah, what, what is it working even. What does that even mean?
Speaker 3:It worked.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it worked.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it could. Yeah, what does that even mean it?
Speaker 2:worked. Oh, I'm a. I made a million dollars Every person I've ever met.
Speaker 1:That got to a point. All they were doing was obsessing about the next point. Yeah, so what does it work? Even mean when every single person I've ever worked with they met a goal and they're already in the next goal.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, we're profitable. Oh, it's the next, you know.
Speaker 1:More money, more profit, oh, it's a million in revenue.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's two.
Speaker 3:And it's five and then 10.
Speaker 2:It's like more employees more this so yeah, what is it worked. Quote yeah, it worked. I don't know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and though Instagram may make you believe it, multi-millionaires doesn't automatically mean that they're just happy.
Speaker 2:So whatever, I think it's not really about the outcome. Being tied to outcomes is not the best thing to do.
Speaker 1:But this rant for me was saying that I'm excited to have a physical goal because I've never had a physical goal before my life Same same and the physical goal we are setting out to do the race. We will go do the race, then the race will be over. Yeah, these intangibles, you know all that kind of stuff. Yeah, it's nice to, I don't care how many. I honestly am completely removed from this content.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like if it doesn't have to be, if it doesn't work.
Speaker 1:If we decide to stop doing it next week, I don't care anymore. Same, I just don't care. Yeah, we're doing a podcast right now, today's episode because we felt like it. This feels way better.
Speaker 2:Yeah, honestly, I'm having more fun on this episode than I've damn near had in the lot yeah.
Speaker 3:So, so that I don't know.
Speaker 2:if we're providing value, doesn't matter.
Speaker 1:Doesn't matter. We felt like sitting down and doing an episode, so we did.
Speaker 2:So you know I don't care, but I'm with you. I've never, never, done the physical goal. I think this is a great place to start. Yeah, so we'll see you guys in August, that's right. It will be cool to track the progress. Yeah, so if you're interested in joining, joining our journey.
Speaker 1:Well, I got a little nervous when we did our hike on Friday because it was a short hike 12 miles. We ride 20 plus miles. We kill ourselves on the bike. I'm not sore the next day. Yes, I did a 12 mile hike, which isn't that long 4000 feet elevation, that's not nothing. But I was sore for three days afterwards.
Speaker 3:And I was like damn.
Speaker 1:I guess I'm worked to do.
Speaker 2:And I've done. Yeah, my knees started hurting. This let's just call it what it is too. Sometimes my knees it's not pain, but it feels a little wonky when I'm mountain biking 357 miles. What happens? What happens on day four? What happens on the fifth day? When you've done 70 miles a day? What does your knee feel like? These are things I don't know.
Speaker 3:I have not been there.
Speaker 2:You know and there's, you know, the what's it called, the ultra, ultra runners and these mega athletes. You know, some people are you kind of there, have more experience here. I don't.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I've never felt this shit. Yeah, I have no idea.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I really want to get one of the someone on the on the podcast and talk to him about that, Please Like. How do you? We need a couple, yeah.
Speaker 2:You know cause. I did a 70 mile ride on a road bike on pavement and my knee was starting to feel a little goofy. Yeah, you know I could in my taint. Yeah, it's building that, that, that sitting stamina on the bike. Yeah, so there's going to be a whole number of things that we have to figure out. Yeah, socks underwear. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Shoes, drinks, food.
Speaker 2:Yeah, pace, pace, and it's, it's, you know. That's why it's the. I don't want to. I mean, maybe perfect is not the right word, but it's a great goal. Yeah, because it's scary enough, it's intimidating enough, yeah, and it's going to push us enough and we're going to have to learn quite a bit. Yeah, and it's not like, okay, I want to ride whatever 100 miles in two days, like it's not something, it's a big chunk bro.
Speaker 3:I'm kind of nervous now that we're talking about it, so yeah, what happens when your knees like feeling blown out?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know, I want to ask people after 150 miles yeah, you still have 200 to go. Yeah, you know what about what? What? What wrist pain? I mean, we're talking about being on a bike. You know, you think about your ass, you think about your legs. What about your wrist?
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:What about my neck?
Speaker 2:What about your neck?
Speaker 1:When I do those long stuff and there's a lot of rocks.
Speaker 2:What happens on the lower back?
Speaker 1:Oh, the last one we did my back was just like cailing me.
Speaker 2:And so this is what conditioning conditioning is going to flush out these things and see what happens to the body.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know, and then we're going to go to our experts and we're going to tell them what's happening to our body and they're going to tell us what to do.
Speaker 2:They're going to say don't sit on a bike for nine hours straight and ride 100 miles in one day.
Speaker 1:They're like don't do the least ergonomical thing, yeah.
Speaker 2:So in those are the things you can only find out by us just putting in a bunch of miles and see how our bodies react. Yeah, so I mean I'm 34 and you're 41. 41. Yeah, so great.
Speaker 1:Our aunt, I mean cousin Stephanie. Yeah, she played a lot of sports and she totally blew out her knee, had to have a surgery, had multiple surgeries. We were hiking one day at a state park, because our family does state parks every year, and you know she was talking a little bit about her knee. I think it was our sister, Thea, I think. Anyway, I was just in this conversation and Thea said to her like how do you deal with it? And her immediate response was just just deal with it. But she's been an athlete. She was an athlete for so long and she's always stayed physical.
Speaker 2:Right. So that's just the mentality, that's the mentality it's like, just deal with it. And that's probably what people who have been, who have more experience here, are probably saying right now Like you just keep going, you just keep going. You say, oh, that's a weird sensation in my knee and just keep on riding.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's not it's not if your back's going to hurt or if your knee is going to hurt, it's just when. It's just when you just keep going, I guess yeah. You're going to quit, you're going to keep going.
Speaker 2:Well, when you're in the middle of nowhere, too, that's true. Where are you going to go?
Speaker 1:Yeah, because that from North Carolina to Alabama and North Georgia there's some, there's some pockets of no even if you wanted to quit, you're going to have to hike 10 miles. 10 miles to the next road. Yeah, Like quitting is hiking 10 miles to the next road.
Speaker 2:At that point, miles just keep going.
Speaker 1:Miles will keep going.
Speaker 2:Miles will hike up the next hill, so anyway, all right.
Speaker 1:That's it. That's it, episode 101. Episode 101. Let's get physical, physical, let's get physical Physical.