#104 The Meaning of Existence & Radical Non-Judgement
Feb 02, 2024
The Focus Cast
With being creative and curious while reflecting unconditional love and gratitude, we can learn to be radically present.
Welcome to The Focus Cast, where we navigate the intricate tapestry of life's journey, breaking free from the constraints of societal expectations and embracing the profound beauty of the present moment. In today's episode, we embark on a heart-to-heart exploration of self-discovery, transcending the stereotypical midlife crisis and finding purpose in the seemingly mundane.
Join me as we peel back the layers of life's supposed milestones and the relentless pursuit of the perfect soulmate, delving into a narrative that prioritizes growth through choice and shared experiences. In our intimate conversation, we unravel the complexities of societal pressures and offer a refreshing perspective on savoring the flavors of each moment.
Discover why judging a stranger's shopping cart reveals more about ourselves than them and how adopting a lens of radical non-judgment can liberate us from self-imposed limitations. Let's explore the joy in the mundane, learning to meet ourselves and others with a kinder, more accepting gaze.
In this episode, we confront the pervasive issue of judgment, examining its impact on daily interactions, from personal struggles with addiction to simple acts of service. Through poignant stories from the trenches of individual challenges, we illuminate the transformative power of replacing judgment with radical acceptance.
This isn't just a discussion; it's an invitation to join me in a commitment to presence. Our purpose may reside within the moments we often overlook. Let's embark on this continuous practice together, sowing seeds of love, gratitude, and non-judgment with every step we take. Tune in to The Focus Cast and let's shape a life awakened to the richness of the present.
With being creative and curious while reflecting unconditional love and gratitude, we can learn to be radically present.
Welcome to The Focus Cast, where we navigate the intricate tapestry of life's journey, breaking free from the constraints of societal expectations and embracing the profound beauty of the present moment. In today's episode, we embark on a heart-to-heart exploration of self-discovery, transcending the stereotypical midlife crisis and finding purpose in the seemingly mundane.
Join me as we peel back the layers of life's supposed milestones and the relentless pursuit of the perfect soulmate, delving into a narrative that prioritizes growth through choice and shared experiences. In our intimate conversation, we unravel the complexities of societal pressures and offer a refreshing perspective on savoring the flavors of each moment.
Discover why judging a stranger's shopping cart reveals more about ourselves than them and how adopting a lens of radical non-judgment can liberate us from self-imposed limitations. Let's explore the joy in the mundane, learning to meet ourselves and others with a kinder, more accepting gaze.
In this episode, we confront the pervasive issue of judgment, examining its impact on daily interactions, from personal struggles with addiction to simple acts of service. Through poignant stories from the trenches of individual challenges, we illuminate the transformative power of replacing judgment with radical acceptance.
This isn't just a discussion; it's an invitation to join me in a commitment to presence. Our purpose may reside within the moments we often overlook. Let's embark on this continuous practice together, sowing seeds of love, gratitude, and non-judgment with every step we take. Tune in to The Focus Cast and let's shape a life awakened to the richness of the present.
So episode 104 of the Focus Cast. Okay, I wrote something the other day.
Speaker 2:
Okay, yeah, you sent it to me in a text. Yeah.
Speaker 3:
You know, I've been thinking about a lot of things, I've been reading a lot of things.
Speaker 2:
Turns out when you listen to 45 audio books every week.
Speaker 3:
I am on book number 37. Okay, 37, my bad In two months, Um. So you know, in going through some of this process, and especially I'm 42, I'm 41, almost 42.
Speaker 2:
You're 41. You've been doing EMDR the therapy for a year now.
Speaker 3:
Yeah, just really going in. Okay, and we said in the last episode I'm choosing not to divorce my wife, marry a 20 year old and buy a two seater.
Speaker 2:
That's not the midlife crisis route you're going, yeah.
Speaker 3:
I prefer to better understand who I am.
Speaker 2:
And You're not getting the red miata. No, the masto me yeah.
Speaker 3:
No, I'm not, I'm not doing it. No, I'm making a choice not to.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, um, we all get to choose our own midlife crisis.
Speaker 3:
Right, we sure do, so my midlife crisis is really just going deeper to understand what I want to do for however long I live, right.
Speaker 2:
Maybe it's the second half yeah, so. Do we ever really die? That's a good question. Or do we just keep recycling? Anyway, different, different.
Speaker 3:
Well, in Georgia we think we're recycling, but it's going to the dump they sell it.
Speaker 2:
They drop it off in some Asian country where it probably gets burned. Yeah, so anyway, anyway, well let's you want to start it off.
Speaker 3:
Yeah.
Speaker 2:
And then we'll read your quote. I'm Jonathan Noel and I'm Brian Noel. This is the Focus.
Speaker 3:
Cast, will we help you reduce distractions, increase focus so you can live a life with the most intentions? All right, so here's what I wrote. Okay, now, this is under the framework trying to understand the meaning of existence. Okay.
Speaker 2:
Nothing heavy or anything. Just a light. Just a light little topic for us.
Speaker 3:
Yeah, so this is my conclusion. Okay, I'm not projecting that this should be all of our conclusions. We'll get to that later. Yes, so in trying to find the meaning of existence, we miss the meaning of existence, which is to exist fully awake and fully present. Behind our desire to understand the meaning of existence is our desire to find individual purpose.
Speaker 3:
What's my purpose? What's my purpose? Yep, freaking out, which leads us to miss our collective purpose, which is to reflect unconditional love and gratitude. There is no hierarchy to purpose. A single parent in a small town or CEO of a global corporation is one and the same To reflect unconditional love and gratitude, and this I love. Each of us hold a mirror, but the reflection is the same. In coming to this, all programs, scripts and narratives fade away. All hierarchies of race, gender, sex, power and belief systems fade away All the energy spent on trying to understand who we are and our purpose fade away, leaving us to exist, to be curious, to be creative, to be you, to be me, to be us, to be Nice. So that's what I wrote.
Speaker 2:
Nice bro, that's quite a conclusion.
Speaker 3:
No.
Speaker 2:
I like that Especially. We don't talk about. We're kind of new talking about some of these subjects, especially with some whatever religious backgrounds Not me, but more for you but with few believe in a collective consciousness, which a lot of cultures do, that it is all connected, then that makes sense. You're reflecting unconditional love and existing is supporting that, doing that From all the way down to whatever helping someone opening the door who has a couple bags that they carry, to finding a cheap way to make, like air crete, homes for thousands of people in a third world country. Doesn't matter, doesn't matter.
Speaker 3:
You're still loving, and we're going to talk about power and powerlessness in a minute. But what's beautiful about what you just said is no matter who you are, where you are, no matter what you have, you have the ability to reflect unconditional love and gratitude.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, Exactly, that's a lot of power, Load of power. It really is Damn. I mean our grandparents, they weren't like CEOs with some big company, but they had their little community and they had unconditional love. They've lit up the room, both of them. You saw it, you were incredible and they had their friends and everyone loved them, their community. The funeral not thousands, but a lot of people showed up. That's their corner. They lit up that corner, but that still ripples out because everyone they affected has families. So it just kind of keeps going. So, yeah, it's all connected, I mean in my reality it's all connected.
Speaker 3:
Well, and of all of the books I've read, one of them I read was about quantum physics, and what we're uncovering or discovering about quantum physics is through science. It is all connected.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, because isolation is pain. Yeah, isolation is painful.
Speaker 3:
Yeah. Much of what we do, much of our habits, much of our pain all comes from the fear of isolation.
Speaker 2:
And powerlessness, yeah, feeling of powerlessness. Yeah, yeah, nice.
Speaker 3:
So what I like about this? Yeah. Is what do we spend our energy on Right?
Speaker 2:
Well, it's like, you mean like trying to figure out the meaning of life? Yes, yeah, then you miss everything, you miss it all, and I'm super guilty of doing this because I started with a whatever you want to call it doesn't matter, but spiritual teacher. Yeah. Whatever, and you kind of start to that happens sometimes. Yeah, you're like well, what is it? I want to know, like I want to know why I'm here.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, it's so like narrow. Yes, especially if you believe like you've been here doing it thousands or millions of times. If you get into that, yeah, but whatever, it's really easy to zoom in. Why am I here and you just miss everything? Yeah, it just keeps going right by you. You don't see it. You know, you don't appreciate all the beautiful stuff around you right now. Right now, all you see I call it the shit glasses. So you put on the shit goggles and all you see is shit. You don't see the beauty. That's what it feels like when you're really stuck in it. So, no matter what you have, you know your amazing family and your friends and your car that actually works and yada, yada, yada. We're very privileged in this country. Yes, you put on the shit glasses and all you see is everything. You feel like you're missing because you're looking for the existence.
Speaker 3:
Yeah, and you think that, or we think that, or the trap is, in my opinion, when we put on the shit glasses and therefore our discontentment, our self-judgment, we're not just looking at the world through our shit glasses, we're looking at ourself through our shit glasses and then we create this picture of what we think it should be. Yeah.
Speaker 3:
And then we then get this idea that if we found our unique purpose, that that purpose would drive us to get to that other side. Yeah, and some of these really good teachers. You know, I see this content online and when you're in that state, really solid, beautiful advice can be really annoying.
Speaker 2:
Oh my gosh, it's terrible.
Speaker 4:
It just makes you more angry. I know it's the worst. It's the worst.
Speaker 2:
So when you're stuck in it, no one. It's almost like if anyone even tries to help you, you're just, you're pissed yeah.
Speaker 3:
Because it's like you go to someone. You're so frustrated and maybe you're depressed, maybe you're anxious, maybe you're angry, maybe all these things, karen, all this trauma, and you're just trying to figure it out, and you go to someone and you're just like why am I here? And then someone says to be here, you just want to punch them in the face, you just want to punch them in the throat.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, no, totally yeah, it is simple and concept but, not always an application right, which a lot of things are. Yes, oh my gosh.
Speaker 3:
Yes, the best advice is usually the simplest advice, but here's the steps between Right. So when you're looking up to a place you want to be and there's a couple of steps and then there's like eight gaps In my mind, I've been able to reconcile the steps between by this and that's, in spending so much energy and trying to understand the meaning of existence, my place in that meaning. You know what's my purpose If you're a religious person or, in the framework of you believing God, what's God's purpose for me. All of that energy is based on this one assumption, and that's that you are currently not enough.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, that you're not doing your, that you're not on your path.
Speaker 3:
Exactly.
Speaker 2:
Or your higher path, or whatever.
Speaker 3:
Yes, and it goes back to this idea that there's one soulmate for you in this entire world of eight billion people and you have to find that one soulmate.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, that's an enormous amount of pressure. Yeah, that's. You might even call it ridiculous. Yeah.
Speaker 3:
Versus the reality that your soulmate is someone that you choose to develop as soulmates over time. You know you don't marry the one person that you're supposed to marry. You marry someone and you decide to spend a life with them and every day is a chance to work on that and build that and grow that. You, your soulmate, is the person that at the end of your life you spent your whole life with and then you die. That's when they finally become that person that you chose to mate with for that long.
Speaker 2:
Right, you made it with their soul. Yeah, you don't.
Speaker 3:
Yeah, you soulmate it, bro, you don't start with a soulmate.
Speaker 2:
Anyway, you develop, it is what you're saying yeah.
Speaker 3:
So all that is on this thing that we're not enough, we don't have enough, and we got to find what it is so that we can have what we think we need, so that we become this thing that we think we should be. Yeah. When, when it sounds like some, some scripts.
Speaker 2:
Sounds like a script, Sounds like some, maybe some society. Maybe it was your parents, maybe it was a lot, maybe it was all of it.
Speaker 3:
Yeah, school yeah.
Speaker 2:
You know, this is what life is supposed to look like.
Speaker 3:
Right.
Speaker 2:
You're. You're 35 years old and you don't have these things Wow. You don't know what your purpose is. You are a failure, yeah. Yeah. You are worthless. Yeah, that's what it feels like sometimes. Yeah, but in I like what you're saying. I mean in scrambling, stuck in that state. Yeah. You go on. You can go on a hike in the most beautiful place in the world. Yeah, and you just miss you, just like you're not there.
Speaker 3:
Yeah. So what's the point? Most the point. And frantically, I don't know why I'm tying this back to relationships I've made for 19 years, cause I don't know, I don't really know a lot about. I met my wife and told her I was going to marry her in like four weeks, but anyway. But you're in a room talking to a hundred people trying to find a mate. Yeah.
Speaker 3:
Are you? And yeah, you just missed. You missed the one. You missed, just spending time with someone and enjoying the moment, you know, but that's what we do, so so back to the next step. So what's the next step? And I think, had he become present. Yeah, I think that leads to this concept of non-judgmental. How do you find your.
Speaker 2:
oh okay, let's do that. Non-judgmental.
Speaker 3:
Because what do we do in judgment? In my opinion, what I've seen for me personally, judgment pulls you out of the present Right Cause. For me, one thing that I said, that a major transformational insights, new script for me was I judge the world, but that was just a projection of the judgment that I had for myself. Right, when I say you are all bad, that is just a projection, but it's a core belief that I am not good enough inside, right, yeah, so I feel like this concept of presence.
Speaker 2:
So what does that mean for myself when I judge the person with all the processed food in their grocery cart?
Speaker 3:
Yeah. Well, it means this, it means I'm a d*** yeah. So in this concept of non-judgment, this is insight to practice. So in the practice, what I'm trying to practice is radical non-judgment, Right? So back to your example. You know, we go to the grocery store, we look at someone else's shopping cart and we see what's in their cart and, like you know, you're just all high and mighty with your nose up and you're organic broccoli. I used to do that.
Speaker 2:
I used to do that bad. It's not as bad, honestly. I used to get really I used to judge way more when I'd see like the kids and I'd see all the d***. And I'd be like, wow you know they're drinking 200 milligrams of whatever Sugar a day. You know I was like the kids are basically being poisoned. Just all the stuff I'm just saying in my head. But if people have no idea between where they're at financially, you can't really judge them.
Speaker 3:
Yeah, I mean, if we replace that judgmental script. There's a couple of things. Number one because of lobbying and misinformation, sugar is subsidized, so products filled with sugar are actually cheaper than products that are organic or Totally. That's thing one, and the other thing you do is usually addiction comes from a place where people don't feel loved or valued enough Totally To be inspired enough to do the work to be healthier and happier. They're just filling a void. They're just filling a void. That person probably just doesn't have someone in their life that cares about them enough.
Speaker 2:
It's funny Like some people could be empathetic for maybe someone who's like doing drugs, like man, they probably had a tough life, they're just filling the void. And then look at someone with the shopping cart, be like, wow, look at this idiot. But no, to your point, exactly that. And the sugary stuff stays cheap.
Speaker 3:
And sugar is more addictive than cocaine or as addictive as cocaine. We know that.
Speaker 2:
I watched an amazing thing on Instagram this guy, he studies hormones endocrine. Yeah, endocrinologist yeah. But he goes through a list of things that Like make something an addictive substance, mm-hmm, like a, like a tick goes, whatever doesn't matter, but the point was is, at the end it was sugar but, it takes all the boxes. Yeah, you know it takes all the boxes of a drug. Yeah, basically a hardcore drug. I'm like you know smoking a joint on Saturday you know, once a week.
Speaker 3:
Yeah, I said cocaine, I mean it's the book is hacking of American mind that I read yeah, and he was an incandescent just made. It was the same guy. And and he pretty much makes the case that sugar should be classified as a drug.
Speaker 2:
So anyway, non-judgment, non-judgment yeah so here's the practice.
Speaker 3:
Okay, we judge a lot. We judge based on moral frameworks. Mm-hmm you know our morals Versus someone else's morals exactly. Judge politically yeah, we just live a life of. We judge a lot, totally. So the the exercise is Really paying attention to your mental scripts and the things you say about people right, and Really replacing those judgments with a positive script or a non non judge, a non judgmental script. I got a personal example, let's hear it. So I have a house with a carport. Our garbage cans are down the driveway. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 3:
So we will, or my wife will, take it back a trash and just put it in the carport and when I get home I'll take the trash to the trash, can you?
Speaker 3:
know, there was a period in my life where that would annoy me, yeah, but then I replaced that script with I get to serve my family by taking out the trash, nice. So then fast forward to like three weeks ago. Yeah, and we have a nanny who lives in our house in a basement apartment Mm-hmm, and she's an adult and she left trash out. Hmm, did it change for you a little bit? It changed for me a little bit, and my first reaction was just like You're, not my wife.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, who the hell are you? However, you reeled it in right. Yes, did you reel it back in? I?
Speaker 3:
reeled it back in. I caught myself. I was just like damn, you're getting really pissed off. And then I said I get to serve this house yeah, because she does.
Speaker 2:
She does a bunch of stuff around the house.
Speaker 3:
She's amazing, yeah, it's an incredible babysitter. She cleans, she helps you. Trust her with the, with your kids 100%.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, so that's so I get to serve right.
Speaker 3:
The household yeah, yeah, and that's one thing I get to do and that's just a different script totally. You know how many, how many people judge when you're driving down the road.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, if you get stuck in that loop, yeah, then it's everything. It's everything like look at how this idiot parked, like, what is this person wearing? Yeah, what is this person doing? Why are they doing that? Yeah, and if it's like that all day I've been around, I worked with a guy like that, it's. I will say right now, it's the only person that ever made me feel physically ill just from their energy.
Speaker 3:
I'm dead serious.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, it's like vampire shit. Yeah but we were in the car Driving around he's driving. I should have just jumped out on the highway, I mean, imagine, for like an hour straight. Look at this fucking guy, look at this, look at this. You know, I can't believe. Who could? He's idiot? Look at this idiot, look at this idiot. It was, it was hard. Yeah, it was hard to be around that for a long period of time. Yeah, I felt stuck in that loop. I felt a big hit. That was an intense loop.
Speaker 2:
So anyway that might be extreme, because he hated everything and hated everyone, and everyone was an idiot, but that's the extreme end. What are the little ones throughout the day? Yeah, that you know you might be doing, I might be doing. Yeah, it adds up.
Speaker 3:
Yeah so. I think a good example of this I love this is a business quote that I said before that I really like, and that's in the business context. If I'm late it's my circumstance, If you're late it's your character. Yeah you know what, can the boss be late, but if the employee does three times they get fired.
Speaker 2:
That's a classic Classic corporate judgment right there.
Speaker 3:
Yeah, and that's just how we are as individuals like. I, I'm going to, yeah, I'm down play.
Speaker 2:
I'm going through this. This is my thing, that's why I'm late yeah you're late because you're not trying hard enough.
Speaker 3:
Yeah look at, look at spouse arguments. You know, you know I've got a lot of pressure at work, mm-hmm, you know that circumstance. But when you get home and the spouse may be irritated, it's like why are you irritated? You're just a you know, mm-hmm, it's character judgment. Yeah, so that's that's just, that's natural for us. Let's just say, let's just be honest, that's natural for us. Of course our ego is going to reconcile our, you know yeah, it's gonna protect number one.
Speaker 3:
Yeah, so the whole concept is how do we start rewriting these scripts to go from Judgmental to radical, non judgmental, and the reason being tying us back to where we started? Yeah.
Speaker 3:
If we learn how to not judge the world and not judge ourselves, then we won't be stuck in a loop where we feel like we're not enough, which therefore we're gonna spend energy on trying to figure out what we don't have to be enough, and Then we are going to miss the entire point of what it means to be here, which is to exist, to be present. Yeah, that's the point, and the question may be is that enough To just exist? To just exist, well, I gotta have a purpose. Oh, so your purpose is to just work corporate America and have a retirement and drive around a couple states and RV until you die, like our. Like we read history and like 0.0001%, we read about that did significant things that people documented.
Speaker 3:
The rest of it is just normal people, the rest of it is just people who lived their life and died. Yeah, so do we think that in our suburban town or in our city we're gonna find the meaning of existence and that's gonna lead us to become some conqueror of our modern era? Well it yeah. It kinda goes back to the collective.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, no, I don't know, but it's easy to get stuck in that loop. It's easy to get stuck in the loop. Yeah, because I've been there. Yeah, you're just, you're looking for it. And what is? My thing.
Speaker 3:
What is it I'm?
Speaker 2:
What is my thing?
Speaker 3:
And here's what's interesting. Here's a really good example that we're all can be pretty, yeah, familiar with. Have you ever been with someone that you're having a conversation with, but they're just looking at their phone? No. Or you're in a meeting with a boss, yeah, and they're looking at their laptop. Yeah, how does that? Make you feel?
Speaker 2:
Like I'm gonna leave if it ever happens to me again. Next time it happens to me, I'm gonna walk away.
Speaker 3:
Yeah, so if you're stuck in your head trying to find your purpose in the meaning of existence, Same thing.
Speaker 2:
That's the way your kids feel.
Speaker 3:
Your spouse feels, your friends feel, your life feels because you're not present.
Speaker 2:
And again.
Speaker 3:
I'm not. That's not a judgment statement.
Speaker 2:
Like.
Speaker 3:
I literally just got a glimpse of radical presence within the past six months.
Speaker 2:
You just got to taste that sweet nectar, bro. I did After you know, 30-something years of disassociation. Yeah, I think Maybe there is individual purpose. I don't know. But growing and learning it feels like for me that works, yeah, and on that path you've probably find some stuff you really enjoy.
Speaker 3:
Yeah.
Speaker 2:
You know, if you find something you're so good at, yeah that you know. Oh, I'm so good at helping people dot, dot, dot, yeah what I see usually when I'm seeing most of these like pretty content, high operating, like spiritual types or whatever. They're helping people. I don't really know anyone who just disregards humanity yeah, that I like enjoy listening to or talking to.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, and looks at everyone else is like scum, yeah, and so I'm enlightened for the fact that all of you are scum, Exactly so you know, there's kind of people that try and increase their consciousness and grow and learn. It's all growing and learning, yeah, and on that path you might find something that really really clicks, yeah. But I don't know if you just find the thing that clicks and then you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:
Yeah.
Speaker 2:
I don't think you just get it.
Speaker 3:
You're right.
Speaker 2:
You have to start the process of growing and learning.
Speaker 3:
Yes.
Speaker 2:
To find the thing that clicks, because you might not even be ready for it. Yeah. Because if I told you right now oh, your purpose, if, like, if it was something extreme, I was like bro, your purpose is to have a $250 million nonprofit that helps you know, hundreds of thousands of people in the other side of the world. You'd be like that sounds overwhelming. I can't do that.
Speaker 3:
Yeah, I'm not qualified, you're not ready.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, but let's say 10 years from now. I told you that You'd be like, oh yeah. I've actually been thinking that I finally have the resources to do it. Let's go. Yeah, right Does that make sense, totally so. Just because even if you had the information, just having it doesn't mean you get to just do it. Right, right, right, yeah. So I think it all just starts with growing and learning. Yeah, so there we go. We just solved life. Look at us.
Speaker 3:
No, but you know what I mean. Yeah, you've said this before and I love this and I've resonated with this and I mentioned this in a couple episodes ago when I talked about my goals for the year and that's to be curious and creative wherever that leads. Yeah.
Speaker 3:
Like the pressure of it's going to look like this or this needs to be successful. All that fades away into just. I will be creative and I will be curious and within our, our, our true collective purpose, which is to reflect unconditional love and gratitude. If you just put those four things together, I will be curious and I will be creative. With non judgment, yes, free from judgment, right, free, radical, non judgment. I will be curious and creative and I will reflect unconditional love and gratitude In that, in that I can be radically present. Yeah.
Speaker 3:
Now, I didn't arrive at that conclusion and I've been present ever since.
Speaker 2:
This is none. Of it's a destination ever Right.
Speaker 3:
Nothing. None of it's. There is no there is no there.
Speaker 2:
I mean there's no there, it's just here Right now, right Like it's. Just because you had a taste of it doesn't mean it stays yeah.
Speaker 3:
But what's really cool about it is, for the first time in my personal life, I feel like that's the right script in my head to focus on and to remind myself of and to lean into. You know, just like we shared in the last episode, I got to lean into it when my kid was in the hospital for several days and my wife had surgeons. It was just chaotic so. And then there's going to be times when things that I want to work don't work. Yeah, you know, there's going to be times that I'm going to have to do stuff that maybe I don't want to do, you know, just to live, and it's going to be challenged. Yeah, you know, but that's all hypotheticals and hypotheticals of the future, and the future doesn't exist. So right now, today.
Speaker 2:
That's a great way to have a lot of anxiety. Yes, yes, that's like the perfect recipe.
Speaker 3:
Yes, so, right now, today, I feel like, for me personally yeah, it took me 12 months, 37 therapy sessions, some other things, a lot of, probably several books, a lot of thinking and internal introspective work and for me, right now, as of today, on February 2nd 2024, that's what my purpose is. Nice, that's what I believe the meaning of existence is and that's what I hope and aspire to reflect, which is unconditional love and gratitude. Yeah, and the practice of radical non-judgment, right.
Speaker 2:
And as a state, not a destination, absolutely yeah.
