TRAINER'S EYE #149 - "Shiny Ribombee Under Cresselia's Moonlight" ft. DetectiveMocha

Detective Mocha, a Shiny Hunter and Twitch streamer, shares how her Pokémon journey began with the Pokemon anime before transitioning into Pokemon Emerald and how it’s grown into a full-fledged passion for hunting Shiny Pokemon. DetectiveMocha opens up about hiding her love for Pokémon in school, stepping into the world of Twitch streaming, and learning to balance authenticity with community expectations. From nostalgic moments to modern-day gameplay challenges, her story is a thoughtful look at rediscovery, identity, and joy.

Listen now to hear how one Pokémon Trainer turned childhood love into a shining adventure.

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Sources
Opening Song: "Forget You" by Alex_MakeMusic from Pixabay

Chapters

• 0:00 TRAINER'S EYE #136 - DetectiveMocha
• 13:52 Commercial Break
• 30:00 What's That Pokemon?

Transcript

TRAINER'S EYE #149 - DetectiveMocha

DetectiveMocha: [00:00:00] I am Detective Mocha, and this is my Pokemon story. Yay 

David Hernandez: Welcome to As the Pokeball Turns, where we interview people about the experience with Pokemon. My name is David Hernandez. I'm joined by Detective Mocha, a shiny hunter where you can watch or catch a variety of shiny Pokemon over on Twitch. welcome to as the Pokemon Ball [00:01:00] turns.

DetectiveMocha: Hello. Thank you for having me on the podcast. Thank you.

David Hernandez: Absolutely. And I really always admire shiny hunters because y'all are just a different breed to me. I don't know how y'all do it. Y'all just chase the same Pokemon over and over, constantly repeating. I'm more of a, I need to be moving, otherwise I get kind of annoyed by it. Have you always kind of had that mindset to wanna be a shiny hunter?

David Hernandez: Where did that all start?

DetectiveMocha: Okay, so when I first started Shiny Hunting, I was starting out just doing, you know, the average methods. So the, the quick, the quick rapid pace methods. So let's say like Horde hunting, Masuda, chain fishing. I've done various methods to build up the patients I have now the chant. I could say it just takes years and years of building up that patients and then getting to where I'm at currently.

David Hernandez: You listed a lot of different ways to do shiny hunting. You

DetectiveMocha: Yeah.

David Hernandez: you've got the hordes back, I believe was Pokemon Sun and Moon. Do you have a particular favorite way to shiny hunt or favorite generation that you enjoyed shining hunting over the others?[00:02:00]

DetectiveMocha: Hmm. I would, so personally for me, I just love doing base random encounters, just running around the grass, seeing what I can find, and hoping that something sparkles, I.

David Hernandez: do you miss that now that we are a more open world now that you have to see the Pokemon compared to like back

DetectiveMocha: I, I do, I do miss the, um, the randomness of the older games. I really do. Like now, now days games are more open world. You can see the shiny just through The over world sprites, if you will. And there's no longer a surprise to the, to the shining encounters anymore.

DetectiveMocha: And there's no thrill to the hunt per se.

DetectiveMocha: I'm personally not a fan of the newer games Gen nine, when mainly a squinting simulator, more like there's no audio cues. I have very bad vision. Um, I wear glasses all the time, so having the squint all the time is very hard and having no audio cue just makes it harder 

David Hernandez: based on what you sound like, you have a very specific history of Pokemon, which we're gonna dive into, I believe your Pokemon journey started with gen three, is that correct? Yes, that

DetectiveMocha: Yes, 

David Hernandez: what do you remember about [00:03:00] playing gen three?

David Hernandez: Like where did that all start?

DetectiveMocha: So my first instances of Pokemon started all the way back in grade school. I just happened to watch a episode of Pokemon Anime and I was being babysat, so my mom dropped me off. I waited for her after she got home from work to pick me up from the babysitter. Saw a random episode of Pokemon. I would.

DetectiveMocha: See these in multiple instances, here and there. And then I would say fast forward to when Pokemon Emerald first came out where I got my first game boy and I played Emerald nonstop. I don't know what kept me raed into the franchise from that get go, but I'm assuming it was through the Pokemon Anime and that kept me just entertained the whole time.

DetectiveMocha: So it sounds like

David Hernandez: it sounds like the Pokemon Anime planted the seed and then Pokemon Emerald, like did the Wilmore pale and just put the Grew

DetectiveMocha: Yeah. Yeah. So the anime put the seed blossomed into the games emerald leading up to where I am now. The, fruit tree.

David Hernandez: it's kind of cool that you start with Gen three and especially [00:04:00] Emerald, which is considered one of the best, I

DetectiveMocha: Yeah.

David Hernandez: although I think it is heavily underrated. What do you remember about playing that game? Do you remember the plot? Like the Pokemon, like what is it about, Hoenn specifically that you remember?

DetectiveMocha: For me, Hoenn is the Pokemon for me, the Pokemon and the region itself. I just have very fond memories of exploring Hoenn for the very first time and wondering, oh, what's that Pokemon? Or what the heck is that one? Is that a chicken? I see. there was one instance, it was when I was a little older.

DetectiveMocha: little timeline. Skip. I remember playing Pokemon Emerald in the shower. I took my game weight in the shower and I just got water damaged. My mys p got water damaged and, the emeralds arrived.

David Hernandez: Wow. I'm sure the SP probably didn't though.

DetectiveMocha: No,

David Hernandez: No.

DetectiveMocha: thes P did, did not. It suffered. Um, yeah, I guess the IGN interview or review came true. 7.8 is too much water.

David Hernandez: yeah. It's too much water.

DetectiveMocha: Too much water.

David Hernandez: used drizzle and it just, uh, rain into

DetectiveMocha: Yeah, I had fun though. I had fun.

David Hernandez: I mean, gen three was such a good place to start The

DetectiveMocha: Yum.

David Hernandez: regions. You [00:05:00] have of course the battle frontier, which is Pokemon Ambrose Pacific, and then all the different varieties with the natures.

David Hernandez: You have the volcano, you have the little tree house in for, which is my favorite area. And then of course, nobody can mention HOenn without all the mountains of water that apparently people plagued by.

DetectiveMocha: It is all those little touches in the game that make Pokemon what it is. Having those little scenic touches adds so much memorabilia to the Pokemon franchise. Like if you remember like Snowpointe City, all that snow, and on certain days there is, crystal snow.

DetectiveMocha: It's like on Junta's birthday and on certain days of the year, you have that powdery snow that comes down.

David Hernandez: I forgot all about that. It's been a while since I've played Pokemon Diamond and Pearl and I forgot that. So for those who don't know, it's certain dates, to where instead of seeing the full blizzard, you just see like little sparkles in the air, if I remember correctly.

David Hernandez: And it's such a serene, I think part of what made Pokemon, especially a seno when we dive into it, so memor, uh, memorable because it's not something you really see replicated and really [00:06:00] shows how Pokemon really wanted to value the day and time you played.

DetectiveMocha: Yeah. And then as well from Pokemon Emerald, I never got to Val Frontier. Fun fact, as a child, never got to the final frontier. what I remember most from Emerald was the Pokemon contest, the ribbon collecting. That's what I enjoyed the most.

David Hernandez: oh. Tell me about that. Like what'd you enjoy about the contest over the battling

DetectiveMocha: I just enjoyed just selecting moves, seeing which moves did well, seeing which moves dock me points. It was a whole tactical battle in my head. 

DetectiveMocha: I also like the po, um, the Pol Block, making the pol Block machines.

David Hernandez: I always felt contests were, I know they were trying to play with it and try to figure it out through those generations, and I always remember watching the anime and I would see May on the contest, and I was like, why couldn't they just do it that way to a little bit more?

David Hernandez: I think that would've made it more appealing and you would've had a diverse way of playing, in my opinion, compared to what you see now, which is strictly just battling.

DetectiveMocha: That's why when I was playing through Pokemon Games and now I wanna watch the anime, I just gravitated more towards the contest. Girls,[00:07:00]

David Hernandez: Mm-hmm.

DetectiveMocha: Dawn, Serena from gen six did those contests as well. Not with showcase Pokemon showcases, with puffin making and Tauros riding, or in the ride, um, Rhyhorn stampeding.

DetectiveMocha: It's like, I just love those types of things when they come to Pokemon.

David Hernandez: Now, I think it was smart, tough, cool. Beauty and cute were the five categories. What Pokemon would you select when you were doing contests? Do you remember that?

DetectiveMocha: I think I selected cute and beauty. That's what I selected the most. 'cause I had a guard of warmth in my original team and I would always go with the beauty category with her. 

David Hernandez: I always use Beautifly 'cause I love Beautifly. I it's a horrible Pokemon battle wise, but it actually did very good in contest.

DetectiveMocha: you trying to copy me from the anime?

David Hernandez: Oh, absolutely. I had Beautifly, I had tour chick. I forgot what the rest of her team was, but I just loved it when I saw it. Like Gupa was hard not to love. But then when I saw Vo the I was just instantly hooked. It became one of my favorite Pokemon from Hoenn.

DetectiveMocha: I love Vita Fly. I [00:08:00] love Beautifly too. I love Beautifly.

David Hernandez: Oh my gosh. And then one other one, um, I'll mention Love disc. Love

DetectiveMocha: Yes.

David Hernandez: such a challenge. I believe it's, I think it was cute. Cup is the word thrives at, I couldn't be wrong. And it's such a very annoying Pokemon to battle in the contest battle wise. Forget about it. Contest. It is king or queen, whatever.

David Hernandez: Its gender. It is.

DetectiveMocha: Keying heart, fish, whatever gender it is, keying our queen har fish, whatever gender it is.

David Hernandez: let's talk about gen four. You know, you transitioned from

DetectiveMocha: Yeah.

David Hernandez: eno. What do you remember about making that jump over to the Nintendo DS and Pokemon Diamond and Pro era?

DetectiveMocha: Let's see. I remember at some point it was when it was during in, I was in middle school at that point, and I remember playing gen four and seeing the announcement of Gen four from both. Dylan and Cole spr. Oh, not Dylan and Cole SPRs. I just remember seeing an ad about it. This's har Love era. And I remember picking up my copy of Diamond for the first time and I was like, okay, I'll pick Diamond. 'cause they'll just look cooler. [00:09:00] Then Paul Kia at the time.

David Hernandez: Mm-hmm.

DetectiveMocha: it's, it's like Switch wa It's Switch switched. Switch Ru.

David Hernandez: so your, your idea switched since then, or

DetectiveMocha: Yeah, my, my ideas have switched since then. now I think both are equally cool, but I just chose DGA better. 

DetectiveMocha: when I first picked Diamond, I went ahead and selected PIplup, mainly 'cause of the anime influence again, to the anime,

DetectiveMocha: it's a penguin who's in love with Penguin, you know? A

David Hernandez: Yeah.

DetectiveMocha: little freaking penguin. And so I chose Piplup. I also copied Dawn's team, Buneary, Pachirisu, who I now love dearly.

DetectiveMocha: And then I, um, I don't know, I don't remember who else I had on my team, but those are the main three I remember from back then.

David Hernandez: I know you mentioned it earlier, you really love the Pokemon punk contest, but it sounds like that's really where you identified as far as your Pokemon experience. 

DetectiveMocha: I think what I can gather from like when, you know, sitting here and talking with you is I just love being able to customize Pokemon,

David Hernandez: yeah.

DetectiveMocha: being able to put them in little outfits. Love being able to make them sparkle. [00:10:00] Hence the shiny hunting fiasco Now, I didn't make the connection till now.

DetectiveMocha: He actually, this is like a first time opener and like an eyeopener for me.

David Hernandez: Welcome to the pickleball Turns where we find this stuff out.

DetectiveMocha: Wow. But yeah, I didn't make the connection till now. 

David Hernandez: I was gonna say, you must have loved for sure the customizable poker

DetectiveMocha: I did

David Hernandez: in that generation you put the stickers on it and they all had different effects, both in

DetectiveMocha: also, also as a shine through, I love matching poke balls with the shinies.

David Hernandez: Mm-hmm.

DetectiveMocha: I, love doing that. Now with Piplup, starters, you can't really do that unless you're doing masuda hunting. But I'm not Masuda. I am with Pachirisu, Heal Ball, Buneary, Heal Ball. Shiny's, of course Drifloon. premier ball, just the white just goes well with the yellow.

DetectiveMocha: Just the whole mixing and matching. Just, I just love doing that. I just love customizing.

David Hernandez: That's a very good point. 'cause I know that a lot of people like to match. To match. Like Rush Ram is usually in the premier

DetectiveMocha: Yeah.

David Hernandez: rom's usually, I think a luxury ball, if I'm

DetectiveMocha: Mm-hmm. Yeah.

David Hernandez: that's some appeal to that to just see [00:11:00] them kind of come together. I guess it's like a whole design, if

DetectiveMocha: It is,

David Hernandez: whole house.

DetectiveMocha: it's, it's almost similarly as if you're building your own secret base, but you're, you're putting more customization, you're more thought into it,

David Hernandez: oh my gosh. I miss, I, I, I love secret bases. I think those are the only generations that had 'em, if I'm not mistaken, gen three or

DetectiveMocha: Jen.

David Hernandez: region of games, ING and Eno

DetectiveMocha: Gen three had the secret bases. Gen four had the underground on the underground bases.

David Hernandez: Did you have a preference on which one?

DetectiveMocha: I just like secret bases more on gen three,

David Hernandez: Yes, I

DetectiveMocha: tree houses. Hey, four Tree City.

David Hernandez: Yes. I always planted mine west Fortree City, down that road all the way to the end where it gets to that waterfall and you can't

DetectiveMocha: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

David Hernandez: my spot.

DetectiveMocha: I always went to the one by, the desert, like above the desert Route one 11.

DetectiveMocha: Where you first get sticker power?

David Hernandez: Ooh, why there

DetectiveMocha: I don't know, it just seemed bigger to me. Like the sticker base in that area seems a lot more roomier.

DetectiveMocha: I didn't have a preference, when I planted my sticker bases, and I [00:12:00] didn't have a preference at all.

David Hernandez: well, that was kind of the fun part, is like you would use secret power

DetectiveMocha: Yeah,

David Hernandez: have different layouts depending on where it was. I never did much of the caves. I was more of a tree guy.

DetectiveMocha: I didn't like the cave either.

David Hernandez: you don't like

DetectiveMocha: I didn't like the cave. I didn't like putting my sticker bases in caves. It just seemed so wrong.

David Hernandez: Like you just preferred the idea behind it

DetectiveMocha: I prefer the, the idea of a tree house, like put 'em in the trees.

David Hernandez: But as you played through gen four and gen three, do you have a particular favorite generation you enjoyed playing the most? Was it one of those two or was it a different one?

DetectiveMocha: So besides the starting point, which was gen three emerald, I can tell you this, I play platinum HeartGold, Soul Silver and then black and white two. The most, those three games, those three are tied. It's always the renditions that I really liked. there's a lot more post-game content and just kept me hooked on for a while.

David Hernandez: I mean, that's just kind of, for me, that's the golden era of

DetectiveMocha: Yeah.

David Hernandez: platinum fixed some of the issues with Diamond and Pearl, but you really saw Pokemon come to

DetectiveMocha: Yeah.

David Hernandez: both hard gold, so silver, which were just [00:13:00] easily still the best remix of all time. And then you have Pokemon black and white, which were my opinion, one of the best games ever

DetectiveMocha: Mm-hmm.

David Hernandez: So it's kind of hard not to be in that

DetectiveMocha: I think, uh, black and white two were quote unquote had so much post-game content. It's like they try to. Listen to their fans and put everything they wanted into that game. And then fans complained because in the Pokemon community, you cannot please Pokemon fans no matter what you do.

David Hernandez: That's true.

DetectiveMocha: It is.

DetectiveMocha: It is a golden rule. It's a golden fact. I swear.

David Hernandez: and people wonder why game freak. The way is the way it is, is because they've tried to cater the Pokemon fans the best as possible and. It's impossible to

DetectiveMocha: It really is. It really is.

DetectiveMocha: you get angry fans left and right. you cannot please everyone. You can. Pokemon tries to be the people pleaser, but at the end of the day, they want money

David Hernandez: Oh

DetectiveMocha: and they're getting their money.

David Hernandez: don't we all?

DetectiveMocha: Yeah.

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David Hernandez: since you love black and white so much, what do you remember? Because that was the first time where I guess we saw more. Flexibility when it came to graphics. What do you remember about playing Black and white 

DetectiveMocha: I remember seeing the announcement for Har goals of Sliver through Dylan and Cole Sprouse that won Har goals of Sliver commercial that they did. Remember that? I remember picking up a game after that aired, and I remember picking Harle for the first time and [00:15:00] I think I picked Chacarita for the, for the first time ever I picked Chi Corina, and I just remember playing the game, minding my own business.

DetectiveMocha: I don't remember much about it. I just remember just playing the game and that's. That's all she wrote.

DetectiveMocha: there was a point in that era where I did hide my gamer side from middle school. 'cause middle school is all about fitting in, being with the cool kids. And then I hid it for a while because I was like, what's Pokemon?

DetectiveMocha: What's that? It just seems like it sucks. What? Huh? because I tried to fit in, you know, trying to be, um, cool with the kids back then. now Gen five still in that, probably in that middle school era. gen five, I remember seeing the pilot episode for black and white and I didn't really enjoy it, but I enjoyed the games more.

DetectiveMocha: I remember enjoying them. I just remember black and white in general received so much hate for no reason, and I narrowed it down to people didn't like change. People didn't like the fact that Pokemon added more. Pokemon to a game. They didn't, they didn't like the fact that, oh yeah, you guys cannot, choose [00:16:00] Charizard or PIkachu for this game. Or your Garchomps. You're holding a whole new set of Pokemon and have fun.

David Hernandez: Yep. Were forced to. You couldn't, you were forced to use the original whatever po I think it was like 170, 180

DetectiveMocha: Yeah, they're for, yeah, they're forced to adapt to this new change. I didn't mind. I didn't mind the change. I, I think I just started to hate it because I just got in the bandwagon, like, oh, people are hating it. Okay, cool. I hate it too, just to be on a bandwagon, I guess. Hey, just follow the leader.

DetectiveMocha: Hey, we all do that, right?

David Hernandez: Right, right. Especially at that age, you know, you're still

DetectiveMocha: yeah. Then yeah, at that age you start hitting people with others hate, and you just have no form of opinion for your own, um, until I got older, I'm like, okay, Gen Five's not really bad.

David Hernandez: Mm-hmm.

DetectiveMocha: is kind of nice. I like this.

David Hernandez: Now, you said you were felt uncomfortable being a Pokemon fan growing up as a middle schooler. you said you hid it or like your friends were against it? Like how did that dynamic

DetectiveMocha: Uh. I hid my gamer side from middle school all the way to my last year of high school. 

DetectiveMocha: that was a very long stretch of [00:17:00] time, of hiding like what I do outside of school or like what I talked about to others in school. I just didn't wanna be depicted more as an, as an outcast than I was already was at that point in life, So I just like kept it really well hidden. Um, no one really asked. I had like one kid, in eighth grade who. Figure it out. I was a Pokemon fan and I lent in my games, and then I approached him a couple times to return my games and he never gave them back. So

David Hernandez: that

DetectiveMocha: I thought, uh, he, he just left, he ran with my games and he just left.

DetectiveMocha: I Bart left them, I left him.

David Hernandez: you to do. I need you to give me a description. A name like we like. We'll track this boy down.

DetectiveMocha: He Okay. I can give you like baseline details. He wore the same clothes every day. He ran away from my, with my leaf green copy and my emerald, so I don't,

David Hernandez: a Twitter. He sounds like an average Twitter user,

DetectiveMocha: yeah, basically.

DetectiveMocha: Yeah, he, um, he was, he was cool. He was cool, but he, he had little or motives back then.

David Hernandez: I'm just waiting for the day, [00:18:00] like I'm gonna have a guest on this podcast and he's gonna say, man, dude, I stole this woman's game back when I was in middle school, and I'm gonna be like, I think I know who you're talking about.

DetectiveMocha: If you, if you do send them my way.

David Hernandez: Oh my gosh, if that happens, I'm gonna laugh my butt off.

DetectiveMocha: Uh, yeah.

David Hernandez: something like that's happened.

DetectiveMocha: Oh my goodness. I mean, I mean, I stole my friend Emerald. She was cool with it. After I told her about it, she's like, Hey, you're cool about it. You're cool with this? Like, yeah, I'm cool with this. Like, oh, okay. Um,

David Hernandez: that's a good friend right

DetectiveMocha: yeah, 'cause like she didn't play Pokemon anymore. She just left it in her drawer.

DetectiveMocha: And I'm like, you ink 

David Hernandez: Now she didn't know about your Pokemon interest at the time, or was this after high school?

DetectiveMocha: This was during middle school? It was during that same year. I would say early, I would say after

David Hernandez: your friend still had no idea even

DetectiveMocha: my friends still, my friends still had no idea for a long time until I told her straight up saying, Hey, I stole your um, Sapphire game. You cool with that? Like, yeah. Okay.

David Hernandez: Dang. That's

DetectiveMocha: Because she, she didn't play with it.

DetectiveMocha: She didn't, she just left it there as she died, like leaving, just left it [00:19:00] and. 

David Hernandez: what was it like being a Pokemon fan playing those games still during those time periods when you found out you still liked it?

DetectiveMocha: it gave me a sense of comfort. It gave me, something to look forward to after a hard school day. 'cause like I didn't have many friends in school. It just, just got me through the hardest times of, of my life and just Pokemon was always there, so I just relied on it heavily.

DetectiveMocha: but then after I would say senior year of high school, I was like, you know what? I don't care what happens anymore. I'm not gonna see any of you after graduation. Let us let it out. At that point, I didn't let it out to the public. I was like more eager. Um, I was still focused on school, of course, but I just like made it more public, more shown.

David Hernandez: It sounds like Pokemon was your escape at the time when you know what was going on in school was so bad that it gave you a world you can explore, A world you

DetectiveMocha: Yeah.

David Hernandez: your own, which you

DetectiveMocha: Yeah.

David Hernandez: of it

DetectiveMocha: It also was a, during middle school as well, I was relying on Pokemon, but I was also a creative writer for myself. I wrote my [00:20:00] own books, my own Little Fantasy Worlds. during high school, I hoped to be published by a company one day, like, oh, I mean, like the next Suzanne Collins with Hunger Games, that didn't happen though.

DetectiveMocha: You have to have royalties and in this day and age, my creative juice can only take me so far. so it just led me.

David Hernandez: happened yet.

DetectiveMocha: happened yet. No. That creativeness is being used. That creativeness is being used towards other outlets than writing my own books now.

DetectiveMocha: Pokemon is still very, very prevalent in my life as an escape from, you know, the harshness of my life.

David Hernandez: So it sounds like you're alluding to maybe what you do on Twitch nowadays. Is that fair to say?

DetectiveMocha: Twitch, YouTube scripts for fun. I guess I.

David Hernandez: I mean, when you're on Twitch, you really are very engaged in just like you are with this interview to where you're talking with people, you know, you're shining hunting of course, but you kind of see your personality just like it is now.

David Hernandez: Like, was Twitch always the way you were trying to find your creative outlet? Like how did that kind of happen?

DetectiveMocha: Hmm. Let me, let me backtrack a couple steps there [00:21:00] actually. let me just take you to X and Y release. Okay. Little x and y release. So back in 2013, I saw the announcement for X and Y being released and I was like, Ooh, X and Y. So I picked up a copy of X and YI got Pokemon X by the way, if that matters.

DetectiveMocha: I got a copy of X and Y and I played through that game. Religiously. I found my first random shiny through that game actually. And I had some prior knowledge of Shiny thing, 'cause I watched a few cheye answers on Twitch during 2013. there was some.

David Hernandez: some

DetectiveMocha: Instances where I'm like, okay, this is kind of cool.

DetectiveMocha: I'm gonna do, I'll dig this Shiny thing thing. x and Y was the gateway into my Shiny thing. Well, career basic, if you wanna call it a career, hobby, career, whatever. it led me to friend Safari friends. Ari was like a, an area I was heavily addicted to. I was doing a bunch of encounters, here and there of every single friend so far.

DetectiveMocha: I got like, you know, um, some lamps, some. Quillin and a lot of other [00:22:00] things as well. 

David Hernandez: I forgot all about the front safari. It's kind of something that like, dang, you bring me so many memories back for me.

DetectiveMocha: Yeah. And around that time when X and Y, first released, I was inspired by Shanter named Blushing Evie. Her name was Paige. And I saw her YouTube videos. I was like, oh, I wanna, this looks kind of cool. I wanna do this too.

DetectiveMocha: And I started like loosely Shing, the Ffy for funs. And I found my rain, my first shiny, which was Like, I think it was a lamp or something and I was like, oh, this is kind of cool. It was kind of neat back then. It was methods though. It was like, you know, the friend safari horde hunting, the masuda hunting I mentioned back earlier.

DetectiveMocha: that was the first instances of shining thing for me with X and y.

David Hernandez: since then you just kind of worked on trying to, are you trying to do like a shiny deck? Like how do you decide which shiny Pokemon to go after

DetectiveMocha: I just go by what I feel like going for. I, I just, I don't know how I decide on target. I just think like, oh, it's a cool Pokemon. I'll just go for it. That's it.

David Hernandez: fair.

DetectiveMocha: There's no,

David Hernandez: Yeah.

DetectiveMocha: it, it happens on the wind. There's no motive behind it. I just go like, [00:23:00] oh, okay. Let's do, let's do this. Let's see it. Let's run it.

DetectiveMocha: You know? I like this Pokemon. Let's just run it.

David Hernandez: we just talked about X and Y, let's go ahead and talk about RAs, which is the remake of your first generation. Like what did you think of seeing Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire remade into what OS was?

DetectiveMocha: Oh boy. I have many thoughts about this line. Again, Pete, people hated all us for no reason. I was very indifferent about it. I mean, by the, I was very bummed out about Nobel Frontier, of course, of every fan is. Bummed out about that. I didn't mind it. I didn't care for the battle frontier. I never got there as a child, so it was very indifferent to me.

DetectiveMocha: I enjoyed playing through auras. there were some things I didn't really enjoy, but I enjoyed it a lot. It was just, a remake. Again, I'm a fair generation, a. Really expanded more on my shining thing. I did more masuda hunting in that gen. I did like a little bit officiating, but I hated it. I didn't like it at all.

David Hernandez: remember that. Yeah, I remember. I'd never liked the fishing in those games. Yeah.

DetectiveMocha: I didn't like it. I just kept losing my chain, like, okay, this, this sucks. [00:24:00] Bye.

DetectiveMocha: And then, People hated auras for no reason. I think the only bad thing about aura, in my opinion, is. The lack of game corner and there's the Ville Monville City was, is turned to a whole shopping mall. I didn't like the,

David Hernandez: that

DetectiveMocha: I,

David Hernandez: aesthetic. I remember that.

DetectiveMocha: it was very weird and I didn't really like the views, like the perspectives of the camera.

DetectiveMocha: It was very topsy-turvy.

David Hernandez: I remember that

DetectiveMocha: Mm-hmm.

David Hernandez: For Marville, I kind of wish the way we had it, I wish that was more of a basement and then we actually got

DetectiveMocha: Yeah.

David Hernandez: what we saw in Ruby Sapphire as the main 'cause. It just seemed kind of weird. Just go like, oh, you're gonna walk in a random shopping mall. It turns into live for a

DetectiveMocha: Yeah,

David Hernandez: I don't know, it just seemed to miss the appeal of what Marville

DetectiveMocha: it

David Hernandez: in the

DetectiveMocha: did. But it was very fun to play through the remix. It was very nostalgic for me. I enjoyed it a lot. It was the introduction with Mega Evolution was, not new to me, of course, with X and Y was pretty new. but having new mega has just made the Pokemon more appealing. You know, they were than ever.

DetectiveMocha: So I really enjoyed that experience as [00:25:00] well.

David Hernandez: And then it was kind of cool to be able to fly on a Latios or Latias. that was such

DetectiveMocha: Yeah.

David Hernandez: to see.

DetectiveMocha: The,

David Hernandez: it's, it moved to what we got today, but it was so cool just to be able to fly

DetectiveMocha: the soaring. The soaring,

David Hernandez: yes,

DetectiveMocha: the, the soaring, the hooper rings. Did you know, did you, the fun fact, did you know those soaring encounters can be shiny? Do you know that? The,

David Hernandez: No, I didn't

DetectiveMocha: those wing, those wings, those swab blues, you find they can be shiny.

David Hernandez: I had no idea. I

DetectiveMocha: Yeah.

David Hernandez: for random account.

DetectiveMocha: No, they're, they can be shiny.

David Hernandez: Oh,

DetectiveMocha: Mm-hmm. 

David Hernandez: Last thing, just in regards to just hoeing in general, if you were gonna have a dream team playing through that region, what shiny Pokemon would you choose and what Pokemon would you put 'em in?

DetectiveMocha: I would put my Shiny Milotic in a dive ball. All right. Swablu or Altaria in a premier ball. Blaziken, I don't know if Brazilian level balls and Gen six, but I'll just, I'll just say Pokeball. So Blaze King in the poke [00:26:00] ball Gardevoir in a premier ball, and then. Delcatty in a heel ball.

DetectiveMocha: And then I love this fossil so much. I love Cradily, Cradily, and a Heal Ball.

David Hernandez: The last thing I wanna talk about is, you know, you were streaming on Twitch where people can check you out and they can watch

DetectiveMocha: Yeah,

David Hernandez: Where did that journey start for you and how did that transition from Pokemon to you being a Twitch streamer?

DetectiveMocha: so I

David Hernandez: I

DetectiveMocha: been hunting at this point for what, A deck, 11 years. Now. That's a long time. Saying that out loud makes me wanna cry. I wanna vomit.

David Hernandez: just say it's a me. Just say it was me pod years. It makes it a lot better. I've been shining hunting for medi pod years. 

DetectiveMocha: Okay. Um,

David Hernandez: That's

DetectiveMocha: don't.

David Hernandez: can say something in birthday. Can you just say like, yeah, my switch 16. I was a sweet PGY

DetectiveMocha: So at this point in my Shiny career, um, I started off with like hunting alone in my bedroom. And then I got jumped into a [00:27:00] few Skype calls back then before Skype got shut down, of course, um, ripped Skype. Oh seven. I got jumped into a few Skype calls, but then there was some periods of time during my community college.

DetectiveMocha: Days and undergrad days where I was just seemingly bored and I got really bored of like watching YouTube videos, all the shows I wanted to watch. Um, my friends were asleep at that point, probably. So I just turned the twitch just to talk to someone, just to have some sort of like background noise while I do my hunting.

DetectiveMocha: I only streamed a few times, a little bit in 2018, a little bit in 2019 before I took a hiatus because of undergrad, for a bachelor's program.

DetectiveMocha: Um, and then I came back full swing. Full swing. April, 2021. as for inspirations to stream, I've seen a lot of my friends do it and I was like, this looks really cool.

DetectiveMocha: You guys make it look really easy and really fun. I wanna try it as well, but I couldn't 'cause of, of school back then and now as a Twitch streamer myself with like some experience I would [00:28:00] say I still have a lot to learn. Of course. I would say that, it's been going really well. It's been going, I've been having a lot of fun.

DetectiveMocha: There are some days where I'm like, wow, I wish I could just turn off a computer and just not stream. but it's normal. It's kind of normal.

David Hernandez: What's been the biggest challenge, I guess, becoming a Switch streamer? Was it something like just easily worked out or was it something that you kind of had to learn and grow into?

DetectiveMocha: I had to learn how to just do it for fun. Don't make it into a job, but don't do it for X, Y, and Z. Do it 'cause you want to. And that's very hard to say, 'cause I'm going through a time where I'm like pushing for certain milestones and whatnot. So that having to beat that lesson back into me and reminding myself like, why am I streaming again?

DetectiveMocha: Why am I here for, is. Do it for yourself and for your happiness, and do it when you feel like it. Don't do it for the pressure. 'cause you have to. Uh,

David Hernandez: I feel the same way 'cause I'm a podcaster, to where, you know, we don't make, I don't make money doing

DetectiveMocha: yeah.

David Hernandez: [00:29:00] you know, obviously I'm sure you make millions and millions being a twist streamer. I've always had to go back to my why of why I like doing what I'm doing.

David Hernandez: I like to be creative. I like to hear people's stories. I get to hear and record episodes about people, why they like Pokemon, what's there not to love about it? Does it pay the bills? No, but do I want it to pay the bills if it leads that way? But I'm not gonna force myself to get to that point, like, oh, I gotta do this.

DetectiveMocha: Yeah.

David Hernandez: point, like what you're alluding to takes the fun out of it. It takes the reason why you're doing it in the first place.

DetectiveMocha: Yeah, I think my motivation to start is like, again, it's mainly to background noise, to be someone's listener. 'cause I know what's, what it's like to not have a person to rely on all the time. And just like I'm very, I'm a very understanding person as I work in education, I've seen many perspectives and parents and students in my time and.

DetectiveMocha: Just listening to people's struggles or like listening to like, oh, even like the smallest task. Like, oh, I cleaned my dishes today, or I did laundry today. Just like those things reminds us of being human, and that's okay. Like, oh, you guys are also human too. I'm not talking to myself then. [00:30:00] Okay. 

What's That Pokemon?

David Hernandez: Well, detective Mocha, I want to finish off this episode with one last segment. It's gonna be a game. I'm hoping you're interested in

DetectiveMocha: Okay.

David Hernandez: It's called, what's that? Pokemon? 

David Hernandez: Think of it like where That's Pokemon, but I don't have to worry about copyright. It's where there are 1000 Pokemon, but the only one that matters is the one I'm thinking about. You have to guess which Pokemon that is. You can ask 10 questions in a yes or no format. After those 10 questions, you have to guess which Pokemon I'm thinking of based on what information you gathered.

DetectiveMocha: Okay. 

David Hernandez: Detective Mocha, What's gonna be your first question?

DetectiveMocha: Is it a fairy type?

David Hernandez: is the Pokemon. I'm thinking of a fairy type. It is not a fairy type. We are on question number two. You got nine more questions,

DetectiveMocha: Question.

David Hernandez: still have time.

DetectiveMocha: Okay. Hmm. Is the Pokemon, [00:31:00] bipedal so two feet

David Hernandez: Is the Pokemon, I'm thinking of bipedal. 

DetectiveMocha: it.

David Hernandez: is not bipedal. 

David Hernandez: It's

DetectiveMocha: Oh boy, my,

David Hernandez: questions we got.

DetectiveMocha: my, my chat knock rails. Me? No, my, yeah, hang on. My chat rails me in for ice puzzles because I suck at ice puzzles.

David Hernandez: Oh wow. Oh, so you're, I'm guessing you're talking about like the jodo ice

DetectiveMocha: Yes, I did a speed run, um, for and crystal just to the hunt and celly for a video. And, um, I was stuck on Pierce's gym for like three hours, no, two hours straight or an hour. So it's something like that.

David Hernandez: I mean, I was stuck on, what was it that gold, silver, and crystal ice cave,

DetectiveMocha: Oh, that one.

David Hernandez: That was so hard for me. I could not figure it out.

DetectiveMocha: Is it, is it a Hoenn Pokemon?

David Hernandez: is the Pokemon, I'm thinking of Ahoe in Pokemon. It is, uh, not a hoe in Pokemon.

DetectiveMocha: Okay.

David Hernandez: We're on [00:32:00] question number four.

DetectiveMocha: Hmm.

DetectiveMocha: Is the Pokemon tall?

David Hernandez: You need to be more specific

DetectiveMocha: Like is it? Um,

David Hernandez: like either gimme an exact height

DetectiveMocha: let me see. Is the Pokemon under three feet? 

David Hernandez: Is

DetectiveMocha: The book, I'm

David Hernandez: of

DetectiveMocha: three.

David Hernandez: or less. It is.

DetectiveMocha: It's

David Hernandez: Not less than three

DetectiveMocha: oh, it's over. It's it's over.

David Hernandez: So we're on question number five.

DetectiveMocha: Does the Pokemon have fangs?

David Hernandez: is the Pokemon I'm thinking of. Have fangs. It does not have things.

DetectiveMocha: Oh my God.

David Hernandez: We're on question number six, halfway there, just to remind people, know it's not a fairy type. We know it's not bipedal. We know it's not [00:33:00] from the home region. We know it's not less than three feet, and we know it does not have things.

David Hernandez: We're on. Question number six.

DetectiveMocha: Is the Pokemon and Legends Archies?

David Hernandez: is the Pokemon I'm thinking of in Legend's. Archus. It is in

DetectiveMocha: Yes. Yes. 

David Hernandez: we're on question number seven.

DetectiveMocha: Okay. Okay, great. Polka, next. Pulled up. Let's go.

David Hernandez: Look,

DetectiveMocha: Okay.

DetectiveMocha: Is the Pokemon, you're thinking of an evolution.

David Hernandez: is the Pokemon I'm thinking of in evolution. It is not an evolution.

DetectiveMocha: Okay. Okay. Okay.

David Hernandez: We're on question number eight. We got three more questions

DetectiveMocha: Okay.

David Hernandez: to make your guess. we

DetectiveMocha: Okay.

David Hernandez: fairy type. We know it's not [00:34:00] bipedal. We know it's not Ahoe and Pokemon.

David Hernandez: We know it's less than three feet. We know it does not have fangs. We know it is in Legends, R Cs, and we know it's not an EV evolution.

DetectiveMocha: Okay. Okay. Okay. Let's see.

DetectiveMocha: Hmm.

DetectiveMocha: I'm trying to find like a common characteristic. I'm like.

David Hernandez: It gets a little tight once you

DetectiveMocha: Yeah, it does. Yeah. It gets like, whoa, I, I use my brain now. Holy wait. This is too much. My brain. Um,

David Hernandez: Wait till you see this is edited. This is gonna be fun.

DetectiveMocha: oh God. I always hate the editing part of everything. 

DetectiveMocha: so it's not bipedal and it's not fairy. There's only even fairy types in this game anyways. Like what? One ous.

David Hernandez: think so, yeah.

DetectiveMocha: Oh no, there's one. Oh, okay. So [00:35:00] rule up the fairies. Rule up bipedal. Rule out the fangs. Um,

David Hernandez: Roll out the less than three feet people, no short people

DetectiveMocha: no sharky pull out. Okay,

David Hernandez: Get outta here. Short people.

DetectiveMocha: so it's, oh, it has to be over three feet now. Okay. Actually then narrows it down nicely. There's like very few. Okay.

David Hernandez: Yeah, you gotta be three feet or older to listen to this podcast. If you're not just, if you're not, if you're not over three feet, quit. Just click quit. Get outta here.

DetectiveMocha: Okay. Um, is the Pokemon a legendary?

David Hernandez: Is

DetectiveMocha: Is the Pokemon,

David Hernandez: I'm thinking of a legendary Pokemon.

DetectiveMocha: please? Okay. Okay.

David Hernandez: a legendary Pokemon.

DetectiveMocha: Oh, okay. Okay.

David Hernandez: We're on question number nine.

DetectiveMocha: shoot.

DetectiveMocha: Okay. Okay.

David Hernandez: questions before she [00:36:00] has to

DetectiveMocha: Oh.

David Hernandez: Will she figure this one out?

DetectiveMocha: Okay. It can't be you. I can't be you. How tall are you again? Me like trying to check every tab. How tall? How tall are, are you fun size? Are you not fun? Size, are you fun size?

David Hernandez: So I'll give y'all a visual of what's going on. She has multiple windows open of Pokemon that it could be. She's having to go through every single one. It's like, I think you're tall enough. I think you're tall enough.

DetectiveMocha: Do you pass the vibe check? It's like, it's like that 100% of a SpongeBob from the salty spit spittoon. Like, how tough are you? That's how I'm picturing it right now. How tough are you? Oh no. How tall are you? Ooh, you're tall. Okay. I'm, I'm kind of guessing you're tall.

DetectiveMocha: You're also pretty tall.

DetectiveMocha: Ooh, I gotta find a common typing though. Like, what's their common typing? [00:37:00] So we have wait, 1, 2, 3.

DetectiveMocha: Okay. Um, is the Pokemon Dragon type

David Hernandez: is the Pokemon, I'm thinking of a dragon type. It is not

DetectiveMocha: Okay. Okay.

David Hernandez: type. So we're on question number 10. The last question before Detective Mocha has to make her guess.

DetectiveMocha: Okay, so who's time I open again? I can have you open. I have you open.

David Hernandez: the questions again while she goes through her tabs. We know it's not a fairy type. We know it's not bipedal. We know it's not a hoe in Pokemon. We know it's not less than three feet. We know that it does not have fangs. We know it is in legends, Aus. It's not an evolution. It is a dragon Pokemon.

DetectiveMocha: Okay.

David Hernandez: Oh, I'm sorry. It

DetectiveMocha: It's,

David Hernandez: Pokemon

DetectiveMocha: and it's not a dragon. [00:38:00] Okay. Okay. Last question. These are short.

David Hernandez: to make her guess,

DetectiveMocha: These are short. These are short. They're all short. The heck. Why are you short?

David Hernandez: and this is when you come to identity, correct? This is when you find out charge yards, four foot 11.

DetectiveMocha: Oh, damn. I should have done that question next. Okay. Hang on. Oh, okay. Okay. Wait, wait, wait. Is the Pokemon of a flying type

David Hernandez: For the final question, detective Mocha has asked me the Pokemon, I'm thinking of a flying type.

DetectiveMocha: please?

David Hernandez: It is not a flying type. We are at the

DetectiveMocha: Yes,

David Hernandez: where she has to guess

DetectiveMocha: yes,

David Hernandez: it is.

DetectiveMocha: yes, yes, yes.

David Hernandez: over [00:39:00] real quick, this is the information she's working with.

DetectiveMocha: Okay. Okay.

David Hernandez: We know it's not a fairy type.

DetectiveMocha: It's not you, not you.

David Hernandez: bipedal. We know

DetectiveMocha: It's

David Hernandez: a ho

DetectiveMocha: not, oh,

David Hernandez: We

DetectiveMocha: not,

David Hernandez: not less than three

DetectiveMocha: not.

David Hernandez: We know it does not have Thanks. We know it is Legend legends Aus. We know it's not an e evolution. We know it's a legendary Pokemon. We know

DetectiveMocha: It's

David Hernandez: type and we also now know it is not a flying tie. Pokemon.

DetectiveMocha: okay.

David Hernandez: Mocha, what Pokemon do you think I'm thinking of?

DetectiveMocha: Are you over three feet? Yeah. You are over three.

DetectiveMocha: Okay. So I have. Um, Archies, I have Dark Eye,

David Hernandez: dry.

DetectiveMocha: Elia Heat ran, and,

DetectiveMocha: and they're all over three feet.

David Hernandez: Hmm, we've, we've learned something. New [00:40:00] chat. Those are five Pokemon. I think Detective Milkos gotta choose between.

DetectiveMocha: Listen, they, they call me the Clia girl.

David Hernandez: girl.

DetectiveMocha: I gotta pick Clia. Is it c?

David Hernandez: Why do they call you the CLIA girl? I

DetectiveMocha: I am hunting the Roman Clia and Diamond and Pearl

David Hernandez: girl. Oh dang. Okay. I

DetectiveMocha: the roamer.

David Hernandez: I thought that was your favorite Pokemon.

DetectiveMocha: No, I'm something, a very tedious roamer, a very long hunt that can make me cry or so, or throw my computer in half. Who knows?

David Hernandez: It sounds like, so you're making your frustrations of Kelli on this

DetectiveMocha: yeah,

David Hernandez: Wow. And what? It's gonna make you cry again. Maybe.

DetectiveMocha: probably. It probably will. Yeah.

David Hernandez: So Kelli is not a fairy, it isn't bipedal. It actually floats. It's not a hoe. And it's from Ceno. It is. we know that the height is four 11. It is, does not have things. It is located in legend CEUs, if I'm not mistaken.

DetectiveMocha: Yeah.

David Hernandez: It is not an [00:41:00] evolution. It is a legendary Pokemon. It is not a dragging, and it is not a flying type, although it is a duck.

David Hernandez: she is guessing as her option.

DetectiveMocha: Yes.

David Hernandez: it is. Clia,

DetectiveMocha: Oh my God.

David Hernandez: that legend Darius question, I think saved her because that narrowed down a

DetectiveMocha: I was,

David Hernandez: after that.

DetectiveMocha: I, I figured doing it by game or like, thinking like, okay, what game do I like, like the most as well? Oh, legend. S Okay.

David Hernandez: And you can catch Detective Mocha over on Twitch where she is shiny hunting clia. But Detective Mocha, thank you for coming on as the book of all turns. How about you tell people where to check you out if they wanna connect with you, or if they wanna watch you stream?

DetectiveMocha: I've got a few platforms you can check me out on Twitter is Detective Mocha, and then Twitch is also Detective Mocha as well.[00:42:00]