Ready to elevate your football game? This week on Shackle Up, we're serving up a fresh perspective on the contentious Ohio State-Michigan game and the coaching decisions that are still being debated in every corner of the football world. We're not stopping at the game analysis but diving headfirst into the reactions, the key moments, and the playful banter from passionate fans. Get ready to enjoy a lively discussion about Ryan Day's coaching career and his unique relationship with Ohio State.
But wait, there's always more in store for you! The plot thickens as we delve into the uncertain future of Jim Harbaugh amidst an ongoing NCAA investigation. Can Michigan retain Harbaugh or is the NFL departure inevitable? We're setting the stage for a thoughtful conversation about Harbaugh's possible NFL success and his commitment towards Michigan. Adding to the excitement is a thrilling analytical breakdown of the Big 10 championship game between Michigan and Iowa.
As we move towards the climax, we're discussing some of the most exciting matches in the upcoming college football championships. We're not holding anything back as we dissect the teams, make bold predictions, and dish out insights on the current College Football Playoff rankings. Don't miss our NFL game predictions, and our unique take on team performances and individual players. Wrapping up this power-packed episode, we're discussing the AFC and NFC divisions, giving you a unique perspective on the playoffs. So gear up, tune in, and get ready for an in-depth, entertaining conversation on all things football.
Ready to elevate your football game? This week on Shackle Up, we're serving up a fresh perspective on the contentious Ohio State-Michigan game and the coaching decisions that are still being debated in every corner of the football world. We're not stopping at the game analysis but diving headfirst into the reactions, the key moments, and the playful banter from passionate fans. Get ready to enjoy a lively discussion about Ryan Day's coaching career and his unique relationship with Ohio State.
But wait, there's always more in store for you! The plot thickens as we delve into the uncertain future of Jim Harbaugh amidst an ongoing NCAA investigation. Can Michigan retain Harbaugh or is the NFL departure inevitable? We're setting the stage for a thoughtful conversation about Harbaugh's possible NFL success and his commitment towards Michigan. Adding to the excitement is a thrilling analytical breakdown of the Big 10 championship game between Michigan and Iowa.
As we move towards the climax, we're discussing some of the most exciting matches in the upcoming college football championships. We're not holding anything back as we dissect the teams, make bold predictions, and dish out insights on the current College Football Playoff rankings. Don't miss our NFL game predictions, and our unique take on team performances and individual players. Wrapping up this power-packed episode, we're discussing the AFC and NFC divisions, giving you a unique perspective on the playoffs. So gear up, tune in, and get ready for an in-depth, entertaining conversation on all things football.
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Speaker 2:Hello everyone and welcome to the Shackle Up podcast, a podcast where once is an accident, twice is a mistake and thrice is no longer a rivalry. I am one of the hosts for this evening, Anthony.
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Speaker 2:Silverk customize talent day. Um, it was a very, it was a very good game. Oh, so I mean you guys, if you want to get the gloating out of the way you can, that's fine, I accept it. But, like, like, I have to know somebody I have to go to.
Speaker 4:I have a lot of people on that list. That list is very long and I went down it one by one, especially through this last week, and it's felt great because a lot of people obviously me, being as big of a Michigan fan I am. A lot of people give me a lot of crap over the years, so I return it to the people that have given me, given it to me. The most and Tony, you are, uh, you are not exempt, but you are not on the hit list.
Speaker 3:I'm a good fan Trolls the trolls he's referring to man. They've Photoshopped Hunter and a house in here.
Speaker 2:I love that so serious. I love when that happened.
Speaker 4:They posted Facebook photos of Hunter wearing house dangers. One of them made me their profile picture the morning of the game.
Speaker 2:No, you can't see. You got to do that after the game.
Speaker 3:A temporary profile picture.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so no.
Speaker 4:I love it, I love it, I love it. It's great.
Speaker 2:Well, we've talked about this. Right, like I and I think I've even said it on the podcast I'm an Ohio State fan. But I'm not like one of these. I'm going to fuck your car up if it says Michigan license plate, ohio State fans. Those are the bad fans. And I wasn't upset. I mean, you guys, you guys saw me at the day of the game and right after the game. I wasn't upset at all. And we I broke it down with Kurt a little bit at halftime with Ohio State needs to do and stuff like that and what Michigan needs to do. And honestly, we said all of us really said at the beginning of the year that Michigan was going to win this game. We know that Ohio State wasn't just wasn't going to have it and and we said it was because of McCord. And it exactly was it. It was McCord. You can say whatever you want about Ohio State defense, if McCord doesn't throw that pick, it's a closer game, it's a very close game.
Speaker 4:It's a close game. It's a very, very, very, very very close game going into that moment and then Michigan getting the little bit of momentum, especially that early on, when neither team was doing anything moving the ball it was detrimental for Ohio State.
Speaker 2:And let's face it, easy score for Michigan. You know what?
Speaker 2:I'm saying Whether it's three points or seven points, easy score. So I'm not saying that Michigan still would have, might have lost that game. I'm just saying they don't have to drive down the field there, and that's that's. If you, if you take away that interception, you take away maybe seven or three points, possibly, possibly, so, so, and so that's why I say I put the blame on McCord and, of course, ryan Day. Right, and I said this before the game and I and I said it all year when it comes to big games, ryan Day, he, just he, he, he doesn't know how to coach in big moments. He doesn't know how to be aggressive. You can't let, I don't, I don't care.
Speaker 2:I don't think any Ohio State fan or any football fan would have been angry if he goes for it there instead of letting the clock run down. That made no sense to me whatsoever, especially the way you got Marvin Harrison, and Ibuka was doing pretty good too. I, you know you got Henderson, who was, you know he was getting a decent amount of yards. I don't understand why he drops the ball on that. I don't use it's 30 seconds, like you literally sat there and said you know what, I'm just going to wait, and then you put faith in a kid who botched a field goal in the national title for you in big moments. I'm not saying it's a kicker's fault, but I mean, yeah, you can't, can't do that.
Speaker 3:I love that Three key drives there in their first half were just for me early. I don't know why I was staying fourth to one at R45. And you punt there. You go for it there with one yard or at least try to give a jump off sides. That was a key drive for me. The the second drive early in the game before that was the interception where he forced it completely to Will Johnson. I mean, he basically ran the slant, didn't even hesitate, just look to his left and right. Like you said, first and goal and then, like you mentioned, the third drive. For me there was 30 seconds. You really thought 50, a 50 yarder was a give me. You gotta always take a shot or two.
Speaker 2:You know, but I've said it. Ryan day, ryan day's whole coaching career here at Ohio State. I it's just you know they got that saying they'll were like two P's in a pod. That that's Ryan day's nutsack two P's in a pod. Meanwhile the assistant coaches over there on Michigan are carrying their nuts around in a wheelbarrow going forward on fourth down and shit like that and if you want to take out McCord.
Speaker 2:The biggest difference in that game was the aggressiveness of Michigan's coaching and play calling Like Ryan day has. He's not aggressive at all and it's a shame. I don't know what he's scared of, because, dude, I don't. I know that there's job security with, with the playoffs, going into 12 teams and stuff like that, and there's really not a good coach out there for Ohio State to just go okay, day, you're done. But don't get it twisted, man. A lot of college coaches come from nowhere you know what I'm saying Like they just come out of nowhere. And for you to think that, after losing to Michigan three times and fumbling in the playoffs due to the fact that you refuse to be aggressive, I don't, don't sit there and think your job is totally safe next year.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I don't, I don't think. I think, at the very least, he is on the hot seat. I think the fans maybe make it seem like his seat is hotter because I think they failed to realize just that. Yes, you guys are angry, you're not winning the games that you want to. You guys are winning the games that you should and the games that you want to win. You have it in the last couple of years. So they're jumping to conclusions and they want a different guy in there.
Speaker 4:And while I don't think that that's the worst thing because other things that you mentioned, like the just the fourth and one part was atrocious to me, a terrible call and then just the fact that you're getting you're getting clearly outcoached by assistance on the other side. It's not the Redcoach and I get it's the biggest game, but you, as the head coach at Ohio State, are getting clearly outcoached by the Michigan assistants across from you and they just they stepped up in big moments, put the team in positions to win and McCord had his mistakes, but he wasn't the complete downfall and I feel like Ryan Davis didn't put his team in a lot of good positions to win that game.
Speaker 3:McCord definitely made plays, but he also killed them with his plays.
Speaker 2:So he kept the minute but he was nice.
Speaker 2:The last, the last minutes in the fourth quarter. He was looking kind of nice. But you can't make those mistakes early. You just can't Not when it's a battle of the Titans. You know it's, it's, it is what it is. And you know him is kind of like what we've been saying all year McCord and Day were the reasons why they were going to lose this game and they did. So, yeah, kudos to Michigan, Congrats you guys. You guys got that. It's your turn. You know what I'm saying, like, but the I just, I just wonder that's what I got to say About damn time.
Speaker 2:I just wonder, though. There's a lot of echoes about Harbaugh leaving for the NFL now.
Speaker 4:And I think it truly comes down to what the NCAA rule is, because, as we know, the big 10 is done with this investigation, but the NCAA is not. So I think I don't know.
Speaker 4:I I haven't really looked into it much because it seems like if I, if I talked to a holiday fan that claims that they know what's going on, they just want to tell me that Harbaugh is leaving or Harbaugh is getting fired, or they don't really give me anything clear. And that's kind of what the situation is. It's murky and it's nothing about. It is clear right now and I don't think anything will be clear until, most likely, the end of the year. But if you see a scenario where Harbaugh is facing a 2024 suspension in the NCAA versus going and taking one of those NFL jobs and having absolutely nothing done to him, I it'd be hard for me to say Harbaugh stays and sits out the whole year.
Speaker 2:Well, let me ask you this Can Michigan offer him enough money to sit through that suspension?
Speaker 4:Right, and yeah, I mean they were. They were just getting ready to announce an extension that would make him the highest pick coach, right before this whole thing broke. Yeah, so and then that was frozen once this thing broke. So they were on the cusp of making him the highest paid coach and Locking him up there. And now the future than question because of all this.
Speaker 2:And I'll be honest I don't mean no disrespect by this or anything I don't think he would make a good NFL coach in today's league. You know, back then when he had capper Nick stuff like that, it was kind of older school. You know, in a meeting, stuff like that, not that he can't adapt at the time, but we all know college is way different. It's easier to take a hundred kids and make a really good team as opposed to taking a 53 man roster where you're competing with other teams to get these players and we see it all the time. Look, I mean I want like look at the Colts. You know they get. They fire Frank right after 11 games, not the Colts Panthers, sorry he was with the Colts, but the Panthers go and fire him after 11 games.
Speaker 2:That's. That's a horribly run organization over there. And and you know the NFL not for long Hardball went through a sink. I don't think. I don't think there's a good spot. I mean, unless hardball is just going for money, there's not a good situation and some of these teams are gonna need new coaches that he would be going into and I just don't think today's NFL he would be all that good Like Pete Carroll, who wasn't like came around the same time. Hardball came around before he's. He's barely lasting out there. I know the Seahawks are a playoff team, but it's like Pete Carroll is making it by the skin of his teeth and he's you know that down.
Speaker 4:Yeah, like my performance is dwindling down in Seattle for sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and like the Mike Shanahan's are gone. Remember it was it was. It was hardball, shanahan and Carroll that were like the new college coaches coming in the coach and you know now Carol's out lap, pete Carroll's outlasted them. You know a lot with Russell Wilson and good drafting and having a very good defense. Not that, not that hardball couldn't do that in NFL, but I don't see a situation he could walk into where it's gonna be like he.
Speaker 4:Like the charges.
Speaker 2:The charges would make a lot of sense that would yeah, that that would actually be a good team.
Speaker 3:I mean like you have to be into a team that has talent and has players ready to go now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I think his heart's in Michigan. I think he's with Michigan. You know what I mean.
Speaker 4:Like I think he's like after all this, after all this, going through what he went through and now finally you know, himself listening to all the naysayers for all the years that he was bad, and now him himself turned this program around. I don't really see him leaving, unless it is truly his only option.
Speaker 2:I mean, he honestly could be like I know Jim Trussell's gone and all that but he was there at Ohio State forever. He could be like Nick Saban at Alabama and just be there forever until he's ready to call it quits. I don't think Michigan, I don't think Michigan would ever cut ties with him, unless they were forced to from the NCAA, you know. But we all, we don't know what's gonna happen with all that later down the road, like cuz, I'm telling you in 10 years They'll NCAA be non-existent and it'll be college, it'll just be college football, and it'll be the big 10 conference and the SEC conference and that'll be it.
Speaker 4:We're heading that way and you know all this realignment and all that. You know Balancing the pack 12 with a snap of a finger. You know you're gonna see that, oh, pack 12 by big, big 12 by ACC, by yeah. Then all you're gonna have left is the main two big 10 at the deep half and half.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what the kind way with that transfer portal, like colleges were regional, you know what I mean. Like fans were regional. Now, with the transfer portal and Streaming services and all the shit you can watch, now it's not. You don't have to like I don't have to be from Washington to have to go to Washington State Because that's where I'm recruited, because nobody else knows, knows me, you know. So It'll be fun. But since we're in college and we're talking about the Michigan Ohio State game, let's move on to that big 10 championship against the stout Iowa Hawks.
Speaker 4:Iowa defense? That's not Iowa defense. Let's go, I'm ready. So what do you guys?
Speaker 2:think.
Speaker 4:What do you think about that line, tony? What do you think about?
Speaker 2:Well, it went up. It's 22 and a half now as of right now.
Speaker 4:It's rising. I need to get on that right now. Can I like it? Yeah, so.
Speaker 2:I think I actually like Iowa. 22 and a half they got that. You had the rivalry game. I just I think it'll be closer, I think it'll be more around 21 points Just because Iowa was gonna last ditch effort. You know they're they're trying to let's. We can probably win this kind of thing. So that's a big 10 champions. If it's a blow out, it's a blow out, but I'm giving Iowa the benefit of the doubt with that defense.
Speaker 4:Okay, well, right now I probably would have said I will plus 22 and a half, but in the last 24 hours, starting quarterback for Iowa, kade McNamara, who is now injured, went on a podcast and you know I Try not to get too spiteful about these people that left, but Kade McNamara, a former captain at Michigan, refers to the Michigan team as the other team. Now I Don't know if he meant disrespect, I don't know how else he would have meant it, but just hearing that alone, you know a lot of those guys in the locker room were with Kade, so I just feel like they're gonna have a sour taste in their mouth hearing them talk like that and I think this is a horrendously bad Iowa offense with a defense that May hold on for a half but not for 60 minutes. I am hammering Michigan, especially 21, 22 points.
Speaker 2:What do you think I?
Speaker 3:Got. I got Michigan minus 22 and a half. I left on fan duel today. It's a little bit ago. Yeah, you know, michigan usually allows like Between seven and ten points a game. They probably get about that and we'll probably get about average, yeah, mid 30th. So I like Michigan to cover minus 22 and a half. I mean kind of what Hunter said their defense can play good for a quarter of a half but Not the entire game. That offense is just so dreadful it's. It's pitiful.
Speaker 2:All right, all right. Well, we'll see. Obviously, michigan's gonna win this game out, right, so there's no question there. I have no faith, but I've also been saying this and so far my, our prediction has been correct. Now, we talked about this because I had Ohio State and Alabama out of the playoffs at the beginning of the year. So I just like to I want to pop my collar with that a little bit, because I did throw that out there. Texas, how I just have Texas in there.
Speaker 4:This weekend means a lot more than it has in years past. Honestly, you know, just with this being the last, true, you know, for teamer, but also a lot of these championship games seem to actually have some, some meaning, or I you know. Do you guys feel that way? Do you guys feel like that this year means a little bit more? Yes, in the sense of matchups and just how these championship games have shaken out, I feel like they mean more this year.
Speaker 3:Well, what are you guys a couple weeks ago? What's that?
Speaker 2:I said what I tell you guys a couple weeks ago. I said that Georgia and Alabama gonna end up playing in this SEC championship and I said it was gonna be Alabama's National title game for them. And it kind of shows that, because Alabama is only a six and a half point underdog oh man, that's, that's a good game, Cannot wait and just just a little bit of a heads up.
Speaker 2:You know cuz we're talking about this game right now. I Took Alabama not just with the points, I'm taking Alabama outright. I think they can Georgia Alabama's. Alabama's been looking good the last couple weeks against some of those teams there. They're putting it together a little bit. But you know, Georgia, I don't. I just think they might sleep on Alabama a little bit. That line is really low.
Speaker 4:Wow, you know this one's real interesting man. Like you, it's so hard to count out saving, but like Georgia is just, they're good Great.
Speaker 2:I just Georgia hasn't been. They've kind of been like Kansas City this year. This is a top team right. They won the championship last year and they just haven't come back as strong as they were the previous year. They're beatable, they're beatable. I just think they're beatable, oh.
Speaker 4:Oh, I thought I read something that Brock I thought I saw Brock Bowers was out, but that was from last week.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, no, no, that's from last week. What's the ball? What do you think on this court?
Speaker 3:Yeah, when I looked at this line I saw a minus six and a half. I you know I was like I Could see that. But Alabama honestly should have lost last week against Auburn. I mean, I don't know how they got a fourth in goal 30 years like a like a dang year 31. Because Auburn somehow Left one one-on-one With a receiver in the back back like left side of the field one-on-one somehow.
Speaker 4:Well, that was I actually found out that was a broken play, that I mean. I mean. Defense. You shouldn't allow that, but I'll ban machine lost. Listen to the coverage that Auburn was in, though, to down lemon to rush.
Speaker 3:I know they rush to, their rush to a QB spy.
Speaker 4:On 431 they ran a QB spy. So there's another guy that should have been in the end zone and then everybody else is playing back. So then the price starts breaking down. You see no row, make a little motion. The receiver moves to the left. Phenomenal catch and bang, just like that. Like how do you give that up the fourth and 31?
Speaker 3:I know we were watching.
Speaker 4:I was like what Really just happened, yeah that was a wild night, so I'm lately choked.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they were quaking.
Speaker 2:So what do?
Speaker 3:you guys think I Like no minus six and a half.
Speaker 4:Okay, yeah, jayce McQuenahan, the running back for Bama, is questionable. He had a foot injury all season, apparently tweaked it against Auburn, so he's questionable and coming in hurt. Um, you know, this line has moved, at least for me it's just five and a half, so uh really.
Speaker 3:Yeah maybe fandom was behind, I don't know. For me shows six and a half.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it just depends probably on that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, right yeah, right, but I'm gonna go with, I'm gonna take Georgia. I'm gonna take Georgia minus five.
Speaker 2:It's all right, that's all right. Lone wolf I.
Speaker 4:Hope, I want to see I want to say great game, but I think that I've been a win helps that garbage team that you support.
Speaker 2:So Well, yeah, well, I don't know. We've got a couple more games, but we're gonna move over to the big 12 and I got the Texas. I think they're gonna, I think they're gonna do their thing against Oklahoma State. I think they're gonna try to. You know, they know that they need that win, and win handily, to get into the playoffs there. So I took Texas minus 15 and a half. I think they're gonna go and take care of business.
Speaker 3:Yeah, same for me. So my number is Mike minus 14 and a half. So we're going with Texas long horns, we're riding with them.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm looking at Oklahoma State. They're eight and three. They had a double OT game last week in which they barely beat BYU 40 to 34, which tells me they're deep into trash. And it seems like Oklahoma State is just winning games based on being able to put up points and Doing a quick glance of their schedule. That's what they do. They put up points, but they sure give up their fair share and Against a Texas team that's gonna be highly, highly motivated, with definitely a chance to still make the playoffs this year and Just a really good season in general, I think they can certainly cover just a two touchdown 14-15 points offers to take Texas.
Speaker 2:All right, all right. Now. We kind of left them alone for the rest of the year. We kind of talked about them the first few weeks Of the year and then they started just kind of bullshitting with us and I don't know how, I Don't know how they are some way somehow your ranked 23rd Toledo Rockets are taking on Miami of Ohio. Give me the Rockets, minus seven and a half. They should take care of business. This isn't one of the teams they normally struggle with, like Western Michigan or anything like that, or Eastern Michigan. This should be it. Like this this, this, this should be it. Their rank 23rd. They're in the Mac. Everybody in the Mac sucks. So minus seven and a half, toledo.
Speaker 3:Yeah, let's see what Finn Balor's got Um Red Hawks for Miami. I Don't think they're gonna have a good day either. I like the Rockets.
Speaker 2:They're not the real Miami anyway.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's the real Miami for me. Rockets minus seven and a half. Look at definitely Toledo minus seven and a half.
Speaker 4:You know, I wanted to try to look at an angle for Miami here, and I mean they played once this season. Toledo beat him by four points. Miami was the home team as well, so Could be a little bit of a factor. Yeah, it's gonna be in four field, that's where they play the Mac. So I just Toledo. They got one loss. Who is? Who is one lost? You? Do you guys remember?
Speaker 3:No, no, I don't know. I think that's right. Okay, we won. Yeah you know what?
Speaker 2:big 10 team out of you know what I mean out of the conference, obviously. So.
Speaker 4:Yeah, if you can get, if you can get touched, if you can get Toledo at a touchdown line, seven, seven and a half, even eight, I'm probably taking them there. I think Miami you know they could, that they get back could be in play with a four point loss at home. You know they got a real sour taste in their mouth. But I think Toledo just playing really good football and they're not really injured and it looks like a Couple guys from Miami are questionable or have some dinged up injuries. So I'll take Toledo minus eight as well.
Speaker 2:Oh right, so here's. Here's another one that may have but guy implications all over it Oregon and Washington for the what? The final Pac-12 fucking championship that's gonna exist.
Speaker 4:Yes, yeah, yep.
Speaker 2:That's which is crazy Um yeah, it's really.
Speaker 2:It's insane to think that that's happening so they played once and it wasn't too pretty for those, those quackers, and I See revenge here. I see revenge. It's a nine and a half point line. I Don't know if Oregon wins outright, but I think they can keep it within that nine and a half. They are not Gonna get embarrassed like they did last time, like they're just gonna. They're just gonna fight and refuse to be embarrassed. Whether they win or not, I don't know, but I like Oregon with the nine and a half.
Speaker 4:Oregon's minus nine and a half.
Speaker 2:Are they? And I got written down wrong. Okay, that's mine, that's my bed, that's my bed. How didn't they just? Didn't they just get smoked by them? I'm there nine and a half point favorites.
Speaker 4:What happened? It was a three point game.
Speaker 2:But it was Washington. I mean, I know, though, was that, because it's in Washington. There now it's even field. That is such a big discrepancy.
Speaker 4:Could be, or maybe it's just the fact that this, see that nine, that not that nine point line, you know, concerned me to. I don't, I just I don't see it.
Speaker 2:I don't see it, but I also yeah, we got those nine and a half points now. I don't think so.
Speaker 4:I mean, I see that, but I also this, the way I would look at it. Washington's defense is not very good. They do not hold anybody worth a day. So does Oregon and bonus just light them up and really try to.
Speaker 2:Submit their case. I spend that way all year, though right, so like even last time, they played like I, so I don't. It's not like. It's not like all of a sudden they got injuries on the defense to where Washington should be almost a 10 point underdog, you know, I think does that make sense? Yeah, is it just a fact that Oregon's pissed like, like you know, the, the, the bookies are like organs, probably ticked off that they lost the last game, so now they're gonna come out? You know, they got pretty much the at the winner of the Heisman, I think is gonna be bow nicks, so you know they got him on there.
Speaker 2:I can yeah, and you know I mean JJ made his case with Ohio State. I don't. I mean, I know he's not really in the running, but he might be thought about now after beating Ohio State.
Speaker 4:I think that that Penn State game took him out of the running, but you think that? I think that he should at least be in the conversation. I'm not saying it should be even a finalist or should go, but after the season that he's had, I think he should at least be in the conversation.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, yeah, give me Washington then plus nine and a half. I just wrote that down wrong. I'm sorry I got. I need to write better notes. I write like a kindergartner, so that's my bed. Yeah, plus.
Speaker 4:Washington plus nine.
Speaker 2:It's been a long night.
Speaker 3:For me personally with this game. I Was kind of shook when I saw this minus Nine and a half point spread for Oregon. I've been, I've been hearing all this hype about Oregon like what's the?
Speaker 4:Bonic Bones back is also pretty good though panic. Yeah, Pennis was penance and real good to he's solid.
Speaker 3:I mean Washington already beat them once.
Speaker 2:Right, but like Hunter said, it was a shootout and it was why he's.
Speaker 3:Why is that such a heavy line? I don't. I don't understand that.
Speaker 2:So yeah, it's weird, it's really weird.
Speaker 3:I've been seen massive hype about the duck, so Maybe that's due with it, but I'm definitely taking the Huskies plus I'm gonna have no, no question.
Speaker 2:Did they? Did they go ahead, hunter? I'm sorry.
Speaker 4:Oh, I was gonna say I think there's gonna be another close game and I can't believe this line is ballooned up. I just I think that they're kind of discounting Michael Panic and what he can do for Washington's offense, while they Overhype low nicks a little bit, just a little bit, I think that he's yeah.
Speaker 4:I mean, he's definitely gonna be a Heisenin finalist at the very least. But I think that they're oh, especially with this line at nine and a half. I think that they're over hyping him just a tad and I think Washington can at least make this a game. You know if they end up, if they were to end up losing it.
Speaker 2:But I mean, maybe that Washington defense really did show some like weaknesses the last couple weeks or something, because that's the only thing I can think of. I don't think it has anything to do with the quarterbacks at all.
Speaker 4:I think it's more or less the defenses I Mean they put up Washington's defense on about 20, 21 and 20 points to Oregon State and Washington State.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I don't know, it's a curious line, it's very curious line. But um, cfp rankings, real quick, what do you think? What do you think they are? Did they? They didn't release them yet, did they?
Speaker 4:yeah.
Speaker 2:So where are we at now with that?
Speaker 4:Georgia, michigan, for is Florida State. Uh-huh, where'd it go? Well, okay, I got a way for Florida State. Three is Washington. So Georgia, michigan, washington, florida State.
Speaker 2:Now let me ask you guys, before we get off the the college ball here Does it stay that way at the end of this week?
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 2:What do you think?
Speaker 3:that way.
Speaker 4:So that plays out that way.
Speaker 2:That plays out that way so on air, on air back and forth.
Speaker 4:I'll say no. I'll say what I say. It changes somehow, I don't know how. Yet it's gonna be a crazy week, well, this week, in trying to decide everything, but I think something changes somewhere. I don't know.
Speaker 2:Tony, I, I really think the NCAA wants to try to sneak Ohio State in there and I just don't know if they're gonna be able to do it. I honestly that the way that they played and, honestly, ohio State doesn't deserve it. So I hope Texas can sneak in somehow and I think that if it stays the same, florida State's gonna get waxed. I don't think they're as good as everybody makes them out to be. I just think they're in a shit conference, to be honest.
Speaker 4:Florida State was really good, and then they lost Jordan Travis.
Speaker 4:So now you don't know what they are. I mean the Florida State they. It was a battle of the backups Florida State in Florida and the swamp last week and it ended up being a decent game. I think that Florida States Quarterback is, or the backup has potential. But that looks like he was very well coached and you know they're playing better than I would have given them credit for With Bo Heim or Bo Heim or how do you say his name, but I I mean the line to lead two and a half for this one.
Speaker 2:But yeah, no, I get it. But at the same time I'm like I don't think they, I don't think they can keep up with the top 14, top 15. I just think they've had a lucky schedule and was ranked, started off, ranked high and they just had the benefits of playing and In the conference that they play in. So, yeah, so I, you know, it's cool, I like, I mean no disrespect to Florida State or that quarterback, but it's, you know, it was almost the same argument as Michigan, right, who were they played? Who are they playing? And then Michigan proved that they can compete with the top team. So, yeah, that that We'll see, it'll be fun. But I don't think it stays the same. I honestly don't. I think, I think, honestly, we're gonna get some an upset, couple episodes this weekend and I, especially if Washington is an underdog that that just means they, they're gonna get, they're out the door, bounced, right.
Speaker 3:So so what happened? They think they're gonna get bounced. So we'll see come Friday night.
Speaker 2:Speaking of bounce, let's let's go hang out with those goons. All right, it's time for hunters. Hockey hits and I want to hear about this 10 minutes for everybody on the ice, 16 player penalty. And I want to hear a little bit about this guy dating this other guy's mother on a certain team.
Speaker 4:Oh, man, are you gotta hear about this? My favorite team is Chicago Blackhawks. They've been through some stuff this last couple, you know 2448 hours. First Cory Perry was signed by the Blackhawks. He was brought in from Anaheim well, tail of a but formerly Anaheim and Chicago played Corey Perry all throughout their runs To their three Stanley Cubs. Cory Perry was brought in by the Blackhawks this season as a free agent to help out kind of bizarre, the new forward center for Chicago, the future Chicago, has a mother's trip at the beginning of November. Cory Perry, cory Perry sleeps with kind of a dark mom and gets caught.
Speaker 4:So within the last 72 hours all the blackhawks reporters started to come out saying there's gonna, there's something going on with Cory Perry because he was away from the team for a while and nobody knew why. Well, they started to try to call it false, they tried to call it a fake story and about 24 hours later he was waved for that exact reason. So Cory Perry Took his advantage of going to Chicago and, I guess, just made a mockery of it, like we all kind of thought he would. I cannot stand Cory Perry and I Like the signing. I was trying to, I was trying to get behind it. But wow, that, that's just that's. That's so Bizarre to me. And then within the last 24 hours Chicago zone, probably that one of the greatest blackhawks of all time, patrick Kane, you know the, the biggest reason we won one Stanley Cup and a lot of the reason we won the other two he signed with the Detroit Red Wings. Now, as Much they pained me to say, I will say I think that they made a mistake. I think that Patrick Kane is a little bit past and anything even being useful as he's gotten up in age. But I also think that Detroit has had pretty bad goaltending and bad defense this season and that's kind of gone to Say why they've been so poor to start this season. I predicted Detroit to make the playoffs this season.
Speaker 4:So while I think that this could be a good Goal is scoring maybe a good Depth piece to add for them, I think that this move should have probably made towards defense or go attending, and a lot of these people, especially in Chicago, believe that this was just a money, a money grab. And this also reunites Patrick Kane with his favorite line made in Chicago Alex to Brinkett. So we found that out. That was pretty. That was a hard pill to swallow. I was happy to see him on the ice but God, it had to be Detroit in it and you know we thought it might be happening, especially hearing the rumors of teams that might be interested. But man, when I got that new is my heart just sank. Honestly, super sad.
Speaker 4:But getting into this week, I'm going to look at a matchup in with Winnipeg and Edmonton. This matchup takes place on On what is it? Today is one day. That's Thursday. Yeah, there's a. Yeah, thursday, eight o'clock. Edmonton Winnipeg. Edmonton is actually the favorite 8, 12 and 1. Winnipeg 12, 7 and 2. Stewart Skinner is Edmonton starter with a 7 and 7 7, 7, 1 record. Connor Hall of Book 10, 5 and 1. What a page in the plus money. It's in Winnipeg as well. So I think that will even support my case even more. Give me the Winnipeg judge. It says even money, but they are getting plus money right now in some spots. So Is there either even a plus money? Give me the Winnipeg judge on the money line.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but you know I kept up with my hockey drama. So have you ever seen anything like the the Florida and the Ottawa game, where everybody on the ice gets a 10-minute penalty?
Speaker 4:So you said that and I thought I heard something. But do you know more about that situation? Because I don't really know too much about it, to be honest.
Speaker 2:I don't know any names. Okay, so you got to have to bear with me here, right? So my man from from the Ottawa team comes out of the penalty box, goes straight to one of the Florida Florida players on the ice and just starts fucking whacking them.
Speaker 4:And the box straight out of the box.
Speaker 2:All right, yeah, yeah, straight out of the box and Everybody got into the refs are trying to pull it apart and I think a ref even got hit at one point, like because Then all the whole teams started going on it and then this player just would not stop and it caused everybody else to get in it and you got Florida players holding back Ottawa players and Ottawa players hold a holding back Florida players and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:Oh and after all the dust had settled, the ref goes 10 minute. What's a 10 minute penalty for? Usually, like what do they call that? Yeah, so 10 minute game is conduct penalty for any, even say, players, everyone on the ice, and Then both coaches are trying to like scramble to get players, like to get players on. I have to send you the video later. Your Sarah's on that pointed it out to me, she's gonna be there.
Speaker 4:So that's what I'm crazy I want. Yeah, I want to. I want to look into that more. That is actually wild.
Speaker 2:But it looked funny as hell. If I was a fan there I'd have been cheering unless, like you know, my team lost or something. But other than that, that was that was funny. And then, of course, I heard about the conerman art stuff today when I was listening to sports radio and I was like, oh shit, that's Hunter's team. I was like we got Zach. Is it Zach Wilson of the NHL over here? Yes, absolutely. Oh.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was good time. Good time, well, that was on a hockey hits, and there are a lot of hits, one that one game. Speaking of hits, let's, let's get some NFL hits in this bitch. And we're off with the Dallas state, and you know they play a Thursday night. They don't get the long break, they just get a normal break and then play a Thursday night game again against those Seattle Seahawks. And those Seattle Seahawks, all right, a half point underdogs. They did not look like themselves without Kenneth Walker, and it seems to be that if they can't run the ball, geno Smith is just Geno Smith and with that, seattle goes to Dallas. And I think Dallas roll Seattle like they do every other bad team. And I know Seattle's got a winning record, but if they can't get this thing trained out, they're gonna end up with probably under 500 record. So, kurt, what do you think, man? Do you think Dallas continues the role of bad teams or does it catch up with them?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I have the Same ideas as you. I have the Cowboys covering minus eight and a half. I Watched that San Fran Seattle game and thanks here tonight. That was not a good game. San Fran just dominated from the start in the run game and just got a real early on them. And no kind of walkers is too much for them.
Speaker 2:They need a run game to help supplement Gino and yeah, cuz you know still, I know he's older but he's still got a threat to run a little bit, yeah, so you know you can do the RPOs and stuff like that and I you know that helps Gino be successful Cuz he's he's a smart dude. So with the RPO he can decide to throw and and you know you got to respect Kenneth Walker's run and then him running.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but Guns Dallas is past rush. Yeah, I don't see it. So it can be Dallas with eight and a half. They're at home, they score a lot at home and We'll ride eight and a half.
Speaker 2:Right, hunter had to go potty so I don't know what you had to do. I'm just kidding. But we're gonna just kind of move along. We'll get hundreds of pinion on the games as soon as he gets in. We'll let you guys. We'll let you guys know there. But we're gonna move on to Kurt's favorite team, the Arizona at Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh is a five and a half point favorite. Pittsburgh's been doing pretty well with that defense and Arizona is bad. They're very, very, not not good team. So I would say Pittsburgh five and a half. Give me the ball and give me Pittsburgh minus five and a half. Kurt, elaborate on your team, man. They're doing pretty well. They got a chance to win this division still.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm just kidding. They're not cat. I don't know if they're catching Baltimore, I'm just kidding. But they got a chance to go to the playoffs.
Speaker 3:Yeah, currently the fifth seed, if we are right now, at this point in time, with what looks to be a favorable schedule the next month or so, but Nonetheless, that week 18 game against the Ravens will be huge, hopefully, but I'm speaking about this game. I took the car knows plus five and a half. I don't think they'll win, but Week we win most of our games and one score games and this could very well be a one-score game About a week last week for this offense. Now that what? His name is gone, but, yeah, I like the car knows plus five and a half.
Speaker 2:All ready. And Detroit they come back after getting Womped on Thanksgiving. Detroit is a minus four and a half favorite against New Orleans and New Orleans, just there. They just don't look right. Without Derek Carr they can't put nothing together. But Detroit if New Orleans can stop Detroit's run game, there might be a chance there. And you know, as I think, I think maybe Detroit puts it together a little bit, they go to New Orleans and Detroit minus four and a half for me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, detroit, the past couple of weeks definitely doesn't look as good. That Chicago miracle comeback win with the turnover is my golf, and then last week against Green Bay man, they could not protect golf at all. They had.
Speaker 3:Out of like his 40 plus drawbacks, there was like 20 plus pressures, like you're not gonna win when you can't protect your quarterback. So I Like them to cover the four and a half, because the Saints really they're not it, man, they're not it. I mean, I believe they just lost Atlanta last week. Yeah, they lost to Atlanta. Now land is playing that division at five and six or five and seven, like this thing just so bad.
Speaker 2:It's a mess so bad and they're gonna host a playoff game.
Speaker 3:Come on, man.
Speaker 2:They're gonna be. They're gonna be Dallas when Dallas has to go, when Dallas has to go to Atlanta.
Speaker 3:It'll be a fucking. It'll be a. They'll be sweating that game you watch.
Speaker 2:I think that's all that. Where's dude? I'm 90% sure, because since. Yeah, so.
Speaker 3:Home playoff game.
Speaker 2:The matter, the rest of this is quaking, dallas is quaking. They're like we got a win the division, so we get that by week.
Speaker 3:No, but I like Detroit with the four and a half. Don't know if Derek Carr's playing Chris alive. They got hurt last week as well during that game, because the land.
Speaker 2:I'm doing anything anyway, man, which is crazy. Then we're see if you got Michael Thomas and you got Olav a and they got them squat for that game, yeah he's always fucking hurt. I'm just saying like all, even when they were both there, nothing, yeah, just Alvin Kamara is a one-man show out there literally Run game and pass game, but yeah, detroit.
Speaker 2:Bitches. So yeah, no, as long as if, if, if Jared golf can keep his turnovers under control and they can run the ball. If they can do that, detroit wins this handily. I don't, I don't see an issue with it whatsoever. Let's head over to your division Again. Yeah, cleveland, cleveland at the Rams. Rams are three and a half point favorite. That's a standard home line. Kind of tells me that, like even with Cleveland's woes, that la Rams aren't really a good team. But la Ram did blow out the Cardinals, who aren't very good, and with, I know Cleveland's got a good defense, but I don't trust that offense with no quarterback. So give me the Rams minus three and a half with that one.
Speaker 3:Yeah, cleveland Just, and that game against the Broncos just they kind of got worked off fending defensively but we never offense, like you mentioned. Just you have no quarterback play, just because of the situation. I'm not mistaken, the starter got hurt during that game as well. So, just how you gonna really be able to score points, you know your defense, you put them back on the field as often, as often as they did, and Offense they're gonna score eventually, especially now that miles Garrett's hurt and he's he's gonna be playing through an injury. So the Rams come off a big win over the Cardinals. But Carlos aren't really that good. But I took the Rams as well with a three and a half and they staff will have a decent game but could have a couple turnovers. So probably a close game, though nonetheless.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all right, so I'm gonna. I'm gonna skip that other four o'clock game we're gonna talk about cuz I got some things to say to these, these nine or fans, and we're gonna talk about that cuz it's been, it's probably gonna be, the game of the week for the most part. I mean Casey. I know the night games it's Casey and Green Bay and Cincinnati and Jacksonville. Those are gonna be, those should be. Casey wins handily and Jacksonville wins handily. Yeah, we're gonna. We're gonna this Casey. Let's go to the Casey and Green Bay game.
Speaker 2:I took Green Bay plus six. I think Casey should still win that, whether a decent point, but Green Bay played with a little fire underneath them last week. Casey isn't exactly the the Casey of last year. Like I said, where they're dominating teams and you know, at first Casey was struggling with Las Vegas last week. Las Vegas goes up 14, 14, nothing. Of course Kansas City gets it together and ends up smacking Las Vegas around. But I think Green Bay in Lambo. And now, if they can, if they can get an early, fiery start, they can keep. They can keep that, they can cover those six points. So I go, I go Green Bay plus six here.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they're not this matchup. I took the Green Bay Packers as well to cover the plus six. Jordan loves I actually been playing good ball in the past couple of weeks after that little drought. He was going through Him and Christian Watson those two cannot get a good connection. That's something to watch. But the Chiefs have one of the worst second half scoring offense is in the league and Mm-hmm you know your defense has been playing pretty good.
Speaker 3:I mean points per game. They're up there as well, but I Like Green Bay to probably hang around and keep it close. That's how the Chiefs just win, or close games. I mean just close games. So Green Bay will probably keep it within a score. I like that for sure.
Speaker 2:All right. And then Cincinnati at Jacksonville. Jacksonville is, you know, doing their thing. Cincinnati has no Joe Burrow and it seems like if there's no Joe Burrow, there's no Cincinnati. I don't know what the hell's going on with them. They're not even competing right now without them, which is weird, because they still got talent on that offense. I don't you know. Any quarterback should be able to throw it. You would think, throw it to Jamar Chase, you know? And yeah, and T Higgins and all that. Unfortunately, they're having a hard problem. Meanwhile they got that talented Trevor Lawrence over there with Calvin Ridley and Christian Kirk and they're eight and a half point favorites, and I'm taking Jacksonville with eight and a half. I know that's a high point line, but they're at home and I just I Cincinnati looks like they're falling apart a little bit without Joey B.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I pretty much expect. Well, first off, this should have been a really good game. If Burrow was playing, this would be a Pretty a way different way, different way, different, everything but um, cincinnati, I pretty much expect just to fade the rest of the season. So I Like Jacksonville minus eight and a half. They come off of a big, much needed big win over Houston and they need to keep winning as they try to get that number one seed. They are right there.
Speaker 3:They are right there with the Ravens, everyone is right there and they see within a game or two, yeah so I I expect them to come out and probably win about Run nine, maybe ten, but I think they cover the eight and a half.
Speaker 2:Okay, right, and so let's talk about dick. Kurt, did you watch the game of the week last week?
Speaker 3:Yes, he did, yes, he did.
Speaker 2:And what did you think about that game of the week?
Speaker 3:Well, first off man, the Eagles been in some wild games. What I think of that game last week Was a rainy windstorm. It was nasty. The Eagles Another fourth, another second half comeback win four games in a row. They've done this and I See it as both low blew some opportunities. But I see is like if you let Philly hang around, they find a way to make clutch plays. See the jail and Hertz does, does the get. That's the key is touchdown with third 15 was just like man. This dude is putting the team on his back, just making big clutch plays every. Every time they he's needed to come up, he's done it. And I Saw, like the first end of the first half I want to say both low what mr Fuller got blocked or something like yeah, got blocked yeah and Over time, josh Allen to Gabe Davis will play.
Speaker 3:They could have had, but you got to make it and this is a crazy, crazy game builds with 500 yards of offense. I mean, josh Allen played honestly a really good game but he had that one turnover and that key, key moment and you know I'll put those two robbery on that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you miss one very important thing.
Speaker 3:But I watched most of that game but I was kind of to TVing it with the NFL Red Zone and then the Eagles bills game.
Speaker 2:Just to say 60 yard field goal.
Speaker 3:In that nasty weather after Kelsey false, starts it back to bad plays and like, oh man, this is not, this is not where you want to be at. But then that kick dude was just like man.
Speaker 2:Would you believe me if I said Would you believe me if I said that like I had total confidence in him making that field goal for some reason? Like I wasn't quaking, I was like we're gonna make this. I mean when you're because, jake well, if you look at Jake Elliott's career and I hate to talk about kickers he's made clutch kicks in big moments when he's needed to. Yeah.
Speaker 3:And my man is.
Speaker 2:Like I, just like the one kicker that I've owe, that I've really trusted that they've had.
Speaker 3:But you got a good man. It's like a cheat code. It really is alright.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, I'll tell you what I Was quaking, though the whole game, like the game was just working on my anxiety, and I think I learned a couple things about this game. With this game one, the Eagles just won't die. For some reason, they just won't lay down to. When I watch a 350 pound defensive tackle run 17 miles an hour to chase down Josh Allen, who was running, who was playing? Who was playing like he was Pat Allen. Okay, let's give him the credit because we call him Dak Allen. He was playing like Pat Allen and, yes, you know, runs him out of bounds and and you got just a makeshift defense with people going down. Oh yeah, no, that's that's. It was incredible, was at home. I had a good time With that said, philadelphia has could pretty much tie up the NFC this week, taking on San Francisco, and With all the things that they've done this this season, this season, with the teams that they've done it with, they are a two and a half point underdog at home.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 2:And for the life of me, I can't understand why people refuse to just give the credit when it's deserved. This should be a maybe two and a half point Favorite, like I'm not saying like San Francisco should be a four point underdog or anything like that. I'd even give them two points. But all this stuff like, oh, philly's done it ugly, everyone this season has done it ugly. There has not been a pretty game played by anybody except the Dallas Cowboys. When they fucking play the Giants or Some team that only has three wins, unless it's the Arizona Cardinals, apparently they can't go west of their state. I don't know. I.
Speaker 3:Mean I Don't know people just fine, a narrative dude and they just stick to said narrative. They don't open their eyes and things it's like winning.
Speaker 2:I said it's just good to know points do not style points, don't mean anything and why is it that Patrick Mahomes can come back in the fourth quarter down by seven points or ten points, and it's praise it's praised. Oh look at, he's a comeback king. Jalen Hertz does it and it's like is Jalen Hertz for real? Have we been underrating Jalen Hertz is is, is you know? He played, had a bad first half. Meanwhile, pat Mahomes is still the greatest quarterback in the league right now and he hasn't scored any points in the second half.
Speaker 3:Yep. So like I, said they stick to a narrative.
Speaker 2:So let me, let me give this with that. With all that stuff that happened last week, jalen Hertz is now 27 of 29 career starts.
Speaker 3:Think about that losses, yeah, no.
Speaker 2:Yeah, one losses 27 to 29 and when he's as a starter, he we lost some games last week but he wasn't. He wasn't playing quarterback last year. Garden of ensue had those losses. Well, the Washington game.
Speaker 3:All right, one yeah there's that one and then. But what about the 2021 season? I Mean, yeah, 2021, when they went like what ten and six or something to make it in barely and losing the box.
Speaker 2:I Don't know if he got hurt that season or if they're saying in the last 29 starts he's 27 to 29.
Speaker 3:That's probably what it is that makes no sense, okay, not all right. Okay.
Speaker 2:He's also sense. He also has eight straight wins when trailing by ten or more points in the second half. Hey straight the last four games have all been he has he has 14 straight wins against teams with a winning record. These are nuts. These are completely nuts statistics and they're underdogs at home. All right but there's a lot to take in there. But there is I.
Speaker 3:Was. I was kind of with you in the fact that I was really surprised to see Philadelphia is underdogs at home. I Was a surprising poor. I thought they would probably be maybe minus two, maybe minus two and a half, but this is it. Flip the other way was surprising, I don't know, I guess they're, and the Niners have ten days.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the ten, the ten days to rest with the Niners probably affects there in the way that the Eagles defense has been playing. I mean, we're ranked 30th in the league when it comes to first down conversions. Like that defense, this allows everybody to convert on third down.
Speaker 3:Yep. But I think points allowed as well.
Speaker 2:But did you know that they have the same amount of QB pressures that they did last year?
Speaker 3:I Wouldn't have guessed that no.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it doesn't look like it. So they're still getting to the court, they're just not tackling. But you got to look at the quarterbacks they played. You know Dak, he's mobile. You know he can get out. Patrick Mahomes, he's mobile. Josh Allen how many times do they should have sacked him like five times, yeah lastly, he's not easy to get down.
Speaker 2:No, no, not at all. So I think they can get the Brock Purdy. So I think that's the difference here and that some people aren't taking a new account. But you know, you got Christian McCaffrey and all that and I get that. Give me the bang bang eagle gang here with the plus two and a half. All right, they're at home. If this is at Niners, it's a different story. This is home. It's supposed to rain Again. It's just one of those things where Jalen hurts is really good, especially at home. I believe he's won like 18 straight at home or some shit like that.
Speaker 2:So Give me the Eagles there's. I mean the eagle. They were saying like all the Eagles are gonna lose first place when they go through this gauntlet. Dude, the gauntlet is the Eagles. The Eagles are the gauntlet for these teams. These teams have had to play the Eagles thinking that you know whatever, and they've, the Eagles have won. I at this point it's not even confidence in my team because they just won. So give me the Eagles outright. I don't know what the plus money is yet, I have to check that, but at least with the points, if you're just doing points and you're worried about it, take the Eagles plus two and a half.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm taking the Eagles plus two and a half as well. Now, as far as like who wins the game, I don't know, but I like the Eagles to stay within two and a half. Um, I Can't tell you. Who wins it though? Can't tell you who wins it. Well, I need those two and a half.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean like I'm not. I'm not worried about this and the Niners better Hope that it doesn't stop raining, because then our offense is gonna be clicking. I Just I don't see Brock Purdy going into Philadelphia and beating us. That that's the whole thing I get. The difference is is Jalen Hurtson, brock Purdy? This game isn't gonna be a blowout either way, and who are you gonna trust at the end of the game? You gonna trust Brock Purdy to drive down the field with two minutes ago in Philadelphia.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, no, no so I got got give it to him and then honest, and then after that I mean that'll pretty much seal up the conference for the Eagles. I mean they could something happen. Yes, something could happen. And you know, even if Dallas wins next week there's no way Dallas would catch up because of of conference schedule. But then they get. Then the Eagles got the Seahawks Giants twice in the Cardinals.
Speaker 3:So yeah, this game is. It's a lot more important for the Niners to win than the Eagles, but I don't know.
Speaker 2:Well then, all that smack.
Speaker 3:Then it's it's done Pretty much.
Speaker 2:Yeah, unless the Eagles lose out, and lose every game from here on out, because the Niners will have four wins and even if the Eagles tie in losses with the Cowboys, they have the head to head. They got the kind of the same what common opponents and stuff like that. So this is almost so much. Yeah, it's not a very must win, like you will. You'll miss the playoffs if you don't win. But this is a must win for the Eagles if they want the number one seat, because they're gonna have a really hard time in Dallas. They always have a hard time in Dallas.
Speaker 3:All about seating. This game is all about seating.
Speaker 2:Right, that's my last game. You got anything else for the podcast, any, any extra bets or anything like that?
Speaker 3:Um, just in case we had a little extra bet section, I did two random games. It was kind of a interesting slate, but Outside of the games we already discussed there weren't really too many good ones, so but I threw in two extra ones. I have the Colts minus one and a half, even though Jonathan Taylor's out, the Titans just can't really score and the Colts will be in the playoffs at the playoffs started today. Another one I got is the Buccaneers minus five and a half over the Carolina Panthers. The Panthers are just dreadful fire. The head coach, frank Reich's gone.
Speaker 3:It's just a complete bit by the way, stupid they, they messed up the season before it even started because Frank Reich wanted CJ Stroud. But the GM and owner or whatever they took, they took Bryce Young and they traded up. They got all rid of all these rat picks they don't have a runner next year. So yeah, it's a, it's a crap.
Speaker 2:So they're giving me the buck good luck to Jim Harbaugh out there.
Speaker 3:Oh goodness, no, tampa Bay minus five and a half.
Speaker 2:Okay, sounds good, man sounds good. And you can catch Kurt on the Blitzberg podcast along with Hunter on the made on Ridgway podcast. You know, if you want to go check those out, and hopefully we guys go enjoy championship weekend. We had a good Thanksgiving and stuff like that was good. It was a good, good thing. I lost some games there, but we did all right. And we're coming to the last stretch of the season. After this episode we're gonna be in December. The next time we record it's gonna be December. It's gonna be crunch time for these teams and we're gonna know a lot more about who's gonna hit these playoffs and who's gonna win. These divisions has been kind of close, like Kurt said. Everybody, especially in the AFC, and we'll see what happens in it and then we'll get a bigger picture when you know in the NFC it's gonna be, it's gonna be hot, it's gonna be hot. So hopefully you guys enjoy this weekend of football and if you enjoyed this episode of the Shekel up podcast, please go like and subscribe and go review our podcast on Apple or Not. Shekel up, silly Spotify.
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