Are you ready to challenge the status quo in college football playoffs and rankings? Prepare to be enlightened as we, your hosts Anthony and Hunter, confront the NCAA's decisions head-on, shedding light on some of the blatant biases in the system. We'll rip open the case of the undefeated champion Florida State's exclusion and Alabama's surprising jump in the rankings. Buckle up, because we're about to shake the very foundations of your college football beliefs.
As we venture further into the thrilling world of college football, we dissect the upcoming Michigan vs Alabama game and take a deep dive into the Heisman race. Ponder with us as we scrutinize the Texas vs. Washington game, and evaluate Washington's chances of scoring against the solid Texas defense. We'll also bring you our comprehensive overview of the top four teams in the college football playoffs and our fearless predictions on their chances of clinching the national title.
Beyond the boundaries of college football, we'll be traversing the broader world of sports. We weigh in on the Philadelphia Flyers' impressive performance this season and make our bold predictions for the upcoming MLS Cup finals. In NFL news, we examine Trevor Lawrence's recent injury and Pittsburgh Steelers' strategies as we edge closer to the playoffs. If you're one to bet on your favorite teams, hang tight as we give you our betting picks for the upcoming NFL matchups. So, tune in, and let's start this exhilarating ride into the world of sports.
Are you ready to challenge the status quo in college football playoffs and rankings? Prepare to be enlightened as we, your hosts Anthony and Hunter, confront the NCAA's decisions head-on, shedding light on some of the blatant biases in the system. We'll rip open the case of the undefeated champion Florida State's exclusion and Alabama's surprising jump in the rankings. Buckle up, because we're about to shake the very foundations of your college football beliefs.
As we venture further into the thrilling world of college football, we dissect the upcoming Michigan vs Alabama game and take a deep dive into the Heisman race. Ponder with us as we scrutinize the Texas vs. Washington game, and evaluate Washington's chances of scoring against the solid Texas defense. We'll also bring you our comprehensive overview of the top four teams in the college football playoffs and our fearless predictions on their chances of clinching the national title.
Beyond the boundaries of college football, we'll be traversing the broader world of sports. We weigh in on the Philadelphia Flyers' impressive performance this season and make our bold predictions for the upcoming MLS Cup finals. In NFL news, we examine Trevor Lawrence's recent injury and Pittsburgh Steelers' strategies as we edge closer to the playoffs. If you're one to bet on your favorite teams, hang tight as we give you our betting picks for the upcoming NFL matchups. So, tune in, and let's start this exhilarating ride into the world of sports.
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Speaker 2:Hello everyone and welcome to the Shackaloo podcast, a podcast that, when you're rocking with us, we never make you feel left out. When you're feeling undefeated and you feel like you deserve more, we always make sure you're at the top of our list, and I am one of the hosts for this lovely, lovely day this evening, anthony.
Speaker 3:Let's go. Another weekend sports. Another week closer to the playoffs for football and, honestly, in an hour we couldn't be happier. Hunter Keaster, I'm back and yeah, tony mentioned it, you know throwing a little joke at it, but Florida State Wow, that's my opener, that's got to be my opener, florida State, wow.
Speaker 2:Wow, and let's just roll into it real quick, because obviously the big news in college is obviously the college football playoff and the teams that are going to be in it, and it's not even the rankings anymore, because obviously a fifth ranked team made it in instead of, you know, the fourth ranked team. I'll say this Did everybody enjoy the TCU game last year? No, no, no. That's what happens when you put best record in instead of best team. I mean, that's the bottom line for me. I get it, florida State, but you don't even have your starting quarterback. I get it, the backup's not that bad, but it's still not your starting quarterback and you would get. You would get waxed by Michigan. Florida State would get waxed by Michigan. It wouldn't be a fun game. Yes, it'd be good for you guys. You know what I'm saying as far as like teams and Michigan fans and stuff goes to be very good for Michigan and Florida State got it, because obviously Bama is a tougher team because of Florida State situation. Florida State plays in a gross conference. To begin with, it's not a very good conference and they barely made it out of. They barely made it out of there with Louisville. What's going to happen if they had to play Bama, texas or Michigan. There's going to be TCU all over again. So I understand it. What I don't understand, and here's what I don't understand.
Speaker 2:To be honest with you, I'm not even mad about the Florida State thing and I'll let you get your piece in on Florida State. My problem how do you jump Oregon? How do you jump? And don't get me wrong, I didn't want them in to begin with. Ohio State. How do you jump? How do you jump Georgia? Yes, you beat Georgia. I get that. But if they played again, I would bet with Georgia.
Speaker 2:I told you guys this that Georgia was going to get beat by Alabama. I picked Alabama outright for that game. I said that was going to be Alabama's national title. And I told you. I said the motherfuckers over the NCAA are going to find some way to sneak them bastards in. Find some fucking way to sneak them bastards in. And yeah, georgia doesn't deserve to fall out of the top four. Top five, they don't. You go from one I could see them being four. They drop them down to four. But to have Alabama completely jump them, alabama hasn't played great all year against all their fucking teams. You can say what you want. Alabama might be like rolling right now, but they have not played good this season, at least Georgia Just last week just last week three point game Auburn.
Speaker 3:They say they get saved by a right Like just that's a prime example and I mean I get the. You know the argument is being made and that you made with Florida State playing with the backup and you know obviously that favorite Michigan not wanting to play a bad machine, that's probably tougher. I just for the sake of what you made, these 14 playoffs and how you made them, how you left Florida State a conference champion who's undefeated, out of the playoffs, with how you guys made the system for this 14 playoffs, just absolutely makes no sense, regardless on if they were going to be down a quarterback or not.
Speaker 2:No, I, I hear, yeah, and like I said, and it's like I said, like I said this at the beginning of the college football season, the NCAA has a hard on for Alabama Bottom line SEC in Alabama. Now, georgia is kind of like the ugly stepchild of the SEC and obviously Bama is the favorite child of the SEC and college football and NCAA saw an opportunity to sit there and go oh, they both got one loss, they both got one loss, so we can put Bama right up in there and they beat Georgia. And really it pisses me off because I just, and then all the Bama fans are chirping like, oh yeah, no see, everybody hates Bama. No, you really don't deserve it. And I get what, the whole Florida State thing, I get what you're saying, right as far as like how they, you know just what's been going on with them. Let me tell you this I mean, the one good win is what LSU Right, that's a good team that they played at first beginning of the season and they beat them.
Speaker 2:They beat them handedly and stuff like that. But then I don't like, I don't, I don't like the rest of their schedule. I mean Southern Miss, boston, boston College, clemson, virginia Tech, syracuse, duke, wake Forest, pittsburgh, miami wasn't any good this year North Alabama, florida's things this year, and then a ranked 16 Louisville, who they only beat by 10 points. So I get the Florida State thing. They haven't beaten anybody, you know so, and they're going to go and play with the big boys. They didn't play a top 10 team at all this year at all, even when LSU's ranked 14, louisville's ranked 16. No top 10 team. So the whole Florida.
Speaker 3:Do you believe in top 10 when they played?
Speaker 2:No, no, because I believe they, duke, had already lost to the shooter name. Okay, so that knocked them down and then they lost their quarterback. So, florida State, I under. I understand that, yeah, and it did. It's about the money and all that stuff, and it's it's a the fucking love child. No. But Michigan, georgia wouldn't have been bad either. I'm saying leave Georgia in. Yeah, georgia drops down to four. Yeah, the 14. Like I don't see why Georgia had to fall completely out of the playoffs. Georgia's dude, no. Georgia's loss to Alabama is a lot less than Georgia's loss to than Alabama's loss to Texas. It's, it's, it's, it's a better loss, right? So you, you leave Georgia out.
Speaker 3:I hate it Well then you got to think about this too Florida State. Florida State plays Georgia in their bowl game, so a lot of people are saying Florida State beats Georgia. They claim the national championship.
Speaker 2:They're not beating Georgia, though I don't think that will.
Speaker 3:we'll see what happens, but if they can beat, if they can be Georgia with their back of quarterback they name, they're gonna be the playoffs. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2:So I want to play something for you guys, because we talked about this at the beginning of the season. I just this is just me, you know riding the train and I get to sit in the front seat and you know kind of kind of toot my horn here. So let me get this here and I think fuck you, ncaa, for putting Bama in, because I had called that son of a bitch at the beginning of the year. I called it, I said they were going to have a loss, and not only am I angry that you skit left Georgia out, but yep, it's stupid to begin with this, logically, it's stupid. But then you just made me look stupid. I got 50% in there. I'm 50% right in there, but it's a la vie, right. That's all I can say. So, yeah, no, but no, yeah, you know, texas. You got, hopefully. You got it at plus eight, plus 800, because it was plus 800. And I was. I was on Texas from the beginning, so I was doing my own horn there and just remind the people in the podcast verse about what I was claiming. Now, georgia should be in the fucking playoffs. I mean, I got the rankings correct, but Georgia should be in the goddamn playoffs. God damn it, but it is. It is what it is.
Speaker 2:Let's talk about these, these odds, though a little bit, so what. That said, we're not making any kind of picks right now. We're just going to kind of talk about what the college football playoffs kind of look like and stuff like that. There's not really too many games going on this week, so I figured we break that down for college football. The bowl games really start next week, like the 16th, so that's where we're getting the heavy bowl season and stuff like that. And then, of course, new Year's is the playoffs. So let's go start with the first one here Bama versus Michigan. So one and a half point line. That's pretty close and they're giving Bama too much love Right now. I would jump on that Michigan before it goes up. If I'm the people I think Michigan is, I think I don't think Bama is going to beat Michigan. I think Michigan can at least win by three, if not more. What do you guys think about that game? That's your team there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think I mean I don't know. I mean, as big of a Michigan fans I am, I'm going to probably pick Michigan, but with the line at a point and a half I think it really shows just how razor thin this game is going to be. So I think a three point game sounds really good to me either way. So at a point and a half I probably would put my money on Michigan, but a three point game either way, I think this is going to be a razor thin game that either comes down to a game winning field goal or a last last day and kind of drive. I think this is a really close game.
Speaker 3:But from what I've seen on Michigan this year and from what Bama they're razor thin kind of games they've had, especially going back to the one Auburn. I know it's a rivalry but that Auburn team is terrible and they should have never even been on the same field as Alabama and you know they almost beat them. They had a beat. So I think that Georgia and Auburn gives Michigan a pretty good blueprint on how to play Bama at least. So at this moment I would take Michigan with that point and a half.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think Michigan is the better team, like I mean, you just said it, then Auburn, right. So like I just don't just what I'm saying, like it just it doesn't make sense. So I just wanted to pull this up real quick, cause I thought it was interesting. Obviously, Alabama blows up middle Tennessee, right, and then they lose to Texas, not in a close game, they lose by 10 points. They play South Florida, 17 points scored on South Florida. Okay, alabama, mississippi 10 to 24, mississippi state they wax Mississippi state, but Mississippi state is trash. Texas A&M they win by six points 26 to 20, arkansas 21 to 24, tennessee. They kind of handled a little bit, but I think that was a revenge game.
Speaker 2:You know they got beat by Tennessee last year. Then LSU, you know we just we saw Florida state, you know wax, you know beat them. So Alabama comes out and beats that you know stupid ass coach out there. And then Kentucky chat new go, they blow out and then, like you said, they win by three points at Auburn. So a lot of their I mean a lot of their schedule is a lot of close games, closer than they should be, and then you know they're not scoring on a lot of these teams. Call it what you want, but you know I just they can score on the really bad teams sometimes, but these other teams can score on them too. It looks like so Michigan I mean Alabama's going to have their hands full with Blake Corum, and I did want to ask you guys something, cause the Heisman obviously is going to be voted on here soon and all this stuff Do you? Did JJ McCarthy make a good enough case? No, no.
Speaker 2:It's sad that they can't do these awards after the playoffs, because I really think he could make his case in these playoffs for for Heisman.
Speaker 3:Who do you guys think the who do you think I was really going to say that?
Speaker 2:Who do you guys think the runner up is? Like who's the runner? Up, not the runner up, but who do you think is the as the front runner? Who's who's? Who's in the lead for here? Who do you think it's going to be?
Speaker 3:I'd say Bo Nick. Bo Nick's right now to me is in the in the lead.
Speaker 2:Yeah, which you know, it's Pac-12, whatever. But I have to top it in my head, I don't know Either way. I mean I like Hunter said I agree, like it's going to be well, just just, I guess you know you don't have to choose one, and just kind of what you're feeling. I like I said I'm with Hunter here. I think Bo Nick's they're going to give it to Bo Nick's. I mean it's at first, it was, you know, the Caleb Williams hype train. Um, like I don't understand. Jj McCarthy has made a good, good case. I know it goes by year, but if you look at his career, jj has made a great case to at least be some kind of Heisman winner or or or something like that. And I just I'm going to give it to him. They're kind of just dicking him, probably because he goes to Michigan. I you know what, if JJ McCarthy plays more minutes and Just had some stats, he probably gets it this year right.
Speaker 3:I think Jane and Daniels from LSU could be a. He could be a sleeper too. Honestly, he's had a phenomenal season. It's been under shadowed, with LSU not being as good, but he's been phenomenal.
Speaker 2:That's what my buddy Tristan was saying. Yeah, but let's move on to the next one, the Texas in Washington. Washington is a four and a half point underdog right now. So it's a four point line. Four and a half five point line. I think Texas can cover that. I mean you're talking about a Washington team that's gonna go against a Big 12 team. It's more of a power conference. It has defense and and I think yours is enough to Is it gonna be able to outscore Washington and hold them down? So I would take Texas at the at the four and a half right now. Obviously, if that moves, we're gonna talk about it later when it moves. These are just some early lines.
Speaker 2:I want to get on. I mean Washington, they I mean that I'm not. They can score, it's just I guess I want to see them score against a team like Texas or Alabama or Michigan. That's what I want to see, not Oregon and a Pac-12 team in a conference that doesn't play any defense. I don't care to see that. So we'll find out actually how strong they are. What do you guys think about that game?
Speaker 3:I'd say I'm leaning. I'd say I'm leaning in Texas right now. I like their offense a little bit better. I like Michael Pennick Honestly, probably better than Quinn Ewers right now. Michael Pennick has been insane and I think that he would probably be in my third slot in that Heisman race right now If it wasn't Daniels or bow.
Speaker 3:Nick Pennick has been great in leading Washington this season. You know they're deserving undefeated but I think, like you said, they haven't played a defense. They played a whole bunch of Pac-12 teams that they could be in a suit out with and end up winning in a Gunfight, like they ended up doing in a multiple games this season. They just proved they could put up points, not play any defense. So against a team that maybe gets a stopper to I Get you know when you're used to not getting stopped at all I think that that could prove Really costly in a really tight game, like I think it will be. So you said the line that four and a half for Texas right now, minus one half probably. I probably take Texas minus four and a half.
Speaker 3:Yeah, cuz these lines are gonna move as a that could be a field goal, that could be a field goal game. So I like that, I do, I like that. Like that, I Could see it. Yeah, I could see it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I just know that, like Texas has been playing harder, right, like, so I guess that my theory about it, about liking it is, is like I know, when they beat Alabama they're bad but the like the quarterback play was bad and the offense really wasn't clicking, but Bama still has got a decent defense for the most part. I mean, they're usually pretty solid and when it comes to defense and Texas put up 34 on them, so yeah, so, like, even, even with, even with Oklahoma, oklahoma had a nice defense this year and you know that was a battle to the last minute game there for them and you know, point for point and stuff like that yeah, so, like I know that Texas can put up points and Against teams with decent defenses, what kind of points are we gonna put up with Washington? And can Washington keep up with that with the Texas defense, right? So here we got, yeah, yeah, we'll see what happens. And that's the later game.
Speaker 2:You know when we're all, none of us are really watching, we're all half drunk at midnight because you know we're celebrating Michigan going to the national title game. So I Do got some, I do, I, I did. Well, you know what that you see, we're not gambling, when we look at the odds and we realize, like how, how good it is because right now Michigan is favored to win the national title at plus once, yeah, yeah, and you know, comes a second, just cuz, just because they love, they love, they, they love sucking cousins off.
Speaker 2:You know, like they like, is it like that Bama life where they like to sleep with each other's cousins, like they're almost Alabama's, like a more southern Virginia? I'm gonna say that, yeah, that's Fucking Bama plus two, yeah, plus plus two, ten plus two, ten. They got. Before I would even put on Bama, I would put money on Texas. Texas is only 260 like, so the Texas and Bama pretty close. Texas is to sick, so I mean they're not as close as Michigan, obviously, but if you're gonna go Bama, you could almost go Go Texas, because I don't think Texas is gonna see Alabama. I don't, I really don't. I really don't think Texas is gonna see Alabama in the playoffs. Now, what would you say? What would you? What would you guesstimate that Washington is?
Speaker 3:They gotta be around. I'm gonna say five, four, fifty to five hundred all right.
Speaker 2:Washington is sitting at fourth, obviously, with a Miniscule whopping plus 800 to win the college football title 800 Wow. So what? What Vegas is telling you is they got no shot. There's too many good defenses in this, in the playoffs, for them to even make it through. They get.
Speaker 3:They get beat by somebody's good defense for sure. Somebody, somebody, nice. Washington is almost like Like I know they had to put somebody in there that like didn't belong, whether it be like a Texas in the Florida state or a Texas in Washington, like they did. Or my point being is that Washington was just like the odd man out, like they had a good season, undefeated, but they played in a weak conference. Everybody knows it. They played no defense. They have no defense. Everybody knows it. They're gonna rely on the offense and Michael Penech and I just don't think he can carry you all the way there with truly no defense.
Speaker 2:No, now, I don't think so. What do you think her? What do you think about that plus 800? Is it deserved? Or you think they should be a little higher because they can score right? That's what everybody says they can score. Oh my, you know, highs, highs, man candidate for a quarterback, you know a bit of a hot take. I Think if Washington plays Bama, they got a better chance of beating Bama's than they do Texas.
Speaker 3:Wow, that's crazy. That's because it Especially for Washington fans. They were ecstatic to find out they were playing Texas instead.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Well, my thing is is I mean, I Don't. I don't trust Bama. I'm telling you right now, the sum's up with Bama and I don't. I just don't trust them. This year, yeah, they were looking good down the stretch, but good against who? So I Mean Georgia. Obviously they beat Georgia, but, like I said, I believe, I honestly believe they were up for that game Because it was their national title. That was my whole premise of that argument to begin with. That was gonna be their last game of the season. They said you know what, if we're not going to the playoffs, we're gonna bust the nut here and the fucking right. So I don't know if we're gonna see that. Alabama Did you guys, uh.
Speaker 2:But here's the thing I've never seen. I Haven't seen Michigan look like a confused team. All year. You know I'm saying they've been more stable, they've been more, they've been more there. All that all put together, even with the shit going on with their, even with their coach Issues going on right now. Michigan I never, like we didn't know anything.
Speaker 2:Ohio State, for example what about McCord? It can Ryan day coach in big games. Can McCord get him the ball? He's hot, he's cold, he's, he's not being it. He can't read this defense. He's a one-reach quarterback.
Speaker 2:Meanwhile, we know, we know what Michigan is. Michigan has been, michigan has been the consistency, like Alabama has not been consistent all year. They're hot, they're cold, they can beat bad teams. They almost, you know, you know they only score 17 against bad teams or quarterback suck right. Oh, I know I'm not gonna say it's not gonna be a tough game. I just, I Just I just I just don't trust them. I it's just one of those feelings that I get, call whatever.
Speaker 2:It's kind Right, right, did you? Did you guys look at any college games coming up? Because I got a couple here that are pretty interesting, did you? Yeah, well, uh, yeah, there's. They're small, obviously, but I did. I did take Navy plus two and a half, for no reason at all, except that it's the Navy. I would have joined the Navy. I was this close to joining the Navy, but then I found out Owen was gonna be born, so I didn't join the Navy. So, yeah, yeah, thanks for that. I was gonna go to do, I was gonna go down with my one of my really good childhood friends, brad, to do the how they do like the joint you can go to like boot camp with the buddy or whatever, because it's like a higher.
Speaker 2:So they said like it's a higher success rate when you have somebody you know go and do the same stuff or whatever.
Speaker 2:So it was like a program that they did was kind of cool Um, give me a mess. So I picked up Navy plus two and a half and then I went down to the man it's a smaller, it's the smaller NCAA League. No, it's North Dakota. Carson Wentz is on the modern North Dakota State Versus South Dakota State for the national title and North Dakota State always waxes everybody in that league. North Dakota State is like got like seven out of ten the last ten years, you know. So give me noted. Give me, give me North Dakota State minus six and a half If you want to put some college shuckles down on this week, okay.
Speaker 3:Yeah, those games are. Those games are Saturday, okay, yes, yeah, they're Saturday.
Speaker 2:There's a couple of other games that are pretty small, but I was like, yeah, just give me those two pretty confident in and that's how I work. All right, hunter, bring it home.
Speaker 3:We got some more hockey this week, let's go. This week. We're gonna look at a matchup actually going down tomorrow. It is the Vancouver Canucks and the Minnesota wild. The canucks are a three and one at home, the Minnesota wild four, six and two on the road. They're a really good team at home. They always have been Minnesota. They only get that crowd of rockin but they they got a four game winning streak going does Minnesota and I think Vancouver can stop that, especially with Vancouver being at home. I will take the Vancouver Canucks on the money line for tomorrow 12 7 versus the wild All right man.
Speaker 2:Well, um, yeah. So the Flyers I see them like people. The people look like they're figuring them out, but that flyers are actually Adjusting and beating people this season. So that was kind of exciting to see. I like their tandem that they have at goalie with the One dude and Carter hard. Obviously, that's looking pretty okay, pretty good, oh.
Speaker 3:I like hard, hard a lot. I didn't know they had a good backup too, so that's good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they just been a decent tandem, um, you know, because what you want is is when you need to give that the kid a break, you got to have a decent backup. Just a good, give them a little bit of rest.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and you see it in Chicago, when you don't have a good like, we got a, I would say he's not even a good starter, we got a solid starter. And then this backup comes in and I think with this, with his loss Last night, he should be like two and nine on the season and you can just absolutely tell because they just their Terrible. Chicago is terrible when he's in and then that they're terrible.
Speaker 2:Now, if you guys have been paying attention during the show from from time to time I'll bring up some major league soccer, and I have been telling you guys to ride the Columbus Crew train all the way home, baby. And this weekend we have ML S cup finals action, bro Mela, yes, I'm a less cup finals action, and it's going to be be the Columbus Crew taking on the Los Angeles Galaxy. The galaxy.
Speaker 2:Now the Columbus Crew is a plus 210 and the galaxy is a plus 115. So what we're gonna do is is you're still gonna throw all your money on the Columbus Crew. They have just been on fire this year, so just throw them on there. They're gonna win, this bitch. Okay, just started to do that. People with your soccer see? Yep, well, you guys, you guys ain't riding with me, that's fine. That's fine. I'll do one of these babies, that's fine. That's, it's fine. I know I don't, I don't really mind, it will be like this. I'll just dance on my own watch. Now I jinx them right, just like the Phillies. I.
Speaker 3:That song is trash. I'm kidding, what do you?
Speaker 2:mean that song is first of all. First of all, you can't call Colum Scott trash, can't do that, that's dude. He's he was on American Idol or X Factor or one of those stupid.
Speaker 3:I that name sounded familiar. I didn't know. He's the one that made that song.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, he remakes it off of some chick. I don't know, I don't really care, I was just playing, I just Know. I just it was. It was on my soundboard so I was like you know what, let's do that because that sounds like a great time. But anyway, let's, let's. Those are pretty much the college topics that I got for you, but you know we're gonna move on to some big NFL stuff going on, because the NFL is what matter. Nfl is king and that is just how we roll, right. So we got some injuries. Trevor Lawrence goes down, another quarterback goes down and we have to watch Dreck and the. You know, since an ad, he ends up pulling it out at the end there. It's just too bad, man, it's just too fucking bad. Do we know how long?
Speaker 2:Dude, he was that dramatic about an ankle sprain. He made it look like it was a broken. I'm dead serious. He stands up and he collapses. He was pulling his best tomorrow handling out there.
Speaker 3:Well, dang, he might not have. He probably couldn't put no pressure on it.
Speaker 2:I've had ankle sprains before and I don't fucking fall right to the ground after walking well, you're also not a six foot, something Freak of nature quarterback.
Speaker 2:So you're absolutely right. My tendons would be worse, so the rest of his tenants should be able to help him. He's, he made it look like it was broken, like I really thought it was maybe dislocated or broken the way he was acting. The high ankles brain, that's a basketball injury, bro. You better relax with all that, patrick. My home's had that and still played in the Super Bowl. What are we doing? What are we doing? Trevor, sunshine, bitch Lawrence, I'm just I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2:I'm just. I'm just. I'm just joking. He's not. I don't know anything about him. Maybe he's the toughest, toughest nails, but when you got hair like that, it's hard to, it's hard to look like five-year-old and tell me you're tough as nails. Speaking speaking of toughest nails, that Pittsburgh defense is a minus six against New England Patriots at home, against Whoever the fuck that they're gonna feel like they're gonna throw out there this week. So break it down, kerber. Break. Break Pittsburgh down. For me, what is there? I mean that we're in December, so it's like playoff push time. You, right now, pittsburgh's got to make a decision. Do they want to push for the playoffs or?
Speaker 2:No, thank you or do they want a tank? Just not Right in the middle. Not help you out, not just kind of give you a decent player in the middle of the draft?
Speaker 3:This screams of three field go game. Yeah, yep against who?
Speaker 2:Oh well, damn, all right.
Speaker 3:It's picking up for the year.
Speaker 2:Oh, two, four weeks, that's the rest of the goddamn season. Just about. Don't sleep on. Don't sleep on Mitchell, don't sleep on Mitchell don't sleep on money, mitch Money make it, make money, make it Mitch Mitch, the glitch man. You know he makes you glitch. So, god, I was thinking of who was the Bears cutler? He reminds me the Mitchell. Turbidity reminds me of Jay Cutler. Maybe it's cuz he did play for the Bears and now and now he's just kind of floating around there, that's you know.
Speaker 2:So now he's just kind of no, but he had another was a beast.
Speaker 3:What are you talking about? State color was a beast, they color was a beast speaking of slobs.
Speaker 2:Let's go From dandy baby. Let's go to the Panthers and Saints.
Speaker 3:Speaking of slobs, oh, that was close.
Speaker 2:Yep 27 Derek are kind of sucks, he does, but so does that. So does that offense of the Panthers.
Speaker 3:The Panthers offense doesn't equally suck. He's questionable. Looks like dang. There's the injury list, for both these teams are about as long as holy hell.
Speaker 2:I did take the Saints with the minus five and a half. I just don't trust the Panthers. I think at this point the Panthers are saying fuck it. You know they're getting rid of their coach. Who knows if they keep the damn quarterback. I know they can't protect them, but I don't think Bryce young is not gonna be successful in the NFL. I'm sorry, I said it at the draft. Cj Stroud should have been one. I said it, you know when the Panthers are going. I don't trust Bryce young. He's way too small. He looks like to Sean Jackson trying to play quarterback, who retired.
Speaker 2:Shout out to DJ X. By the way, dj X retires as an eagle this week, this last week. So my man's had an awesome career. Yeah, it was kind of like a I Don't know come to realization moment that I'm old, because now, like dudes that are playing in the NFL my age, are retiring, and that I, like you, know the prime football when I was a kid. So now I'm like oh yeah, you're old as shit. Oh yeah, I am older shit. So yeah, no, but yeah, I love watching him. Obviously he's one of my favorite players and stuff like that. So congratulations to my man out there. But yeah, the Saints and the Panthers and Bryce young not being able to play, looking like the Sean Jackson throwing football.
Speaker 3:Yeah, absolutely. I think the Saints, the Saints, I think it's like like curts out with the Steelers. I think the Saints are headed for like a middle of the pack, like eight and nine, and you know, the Panthers sitting at one eleven. They don't really want to win too much, they want to. Just they want to tank and try to try to build some type of team around Bryce young or maybe they just scrap him and get another quarterback at number one overall. But they don't have to them on overall pick because it's ready to weigh. So they got a long uphill rebuild battle going and I mean I just I don't think they win, I just I don't think they, I don't think they can do it. I'll take the same.
Speaker 2:And even without Derek look at that, look at that now, and then you fire them and then it gets fun. Yeah, yeah, but but what? But you can't do. I mean, you can't do that as a player or a coach. I didn't want this guy and this guy didn't want me. We'll go out there and tell him like this is why you should have had me. You know what I'm saying? Like, prove the guy wrong. You proved him right. Yeah, that's all. That's all you did is you proved him right Because I say what CJ Stroud doesn't have much to work with out in Texas, but he's making it work.
Speaker 3:He turned Nico Collins and I mean Nico was doing pretty well before CJ out there, but now he's doing exceptional and he turned tanked out from a nobody to assembly in one season. So yeah for sure, hatch off to see this crowd great oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Greatest Ohio State quarterback in NFL history right there.
Speaker 3:That's about the only quarterback from there.
Speaker 2:Oh, shoot, yeah. So next game we got here on the list is the Colts at the Bengals with mr Browning Bengals. Even after keeping up with the Jags with, with their, with their backup quarterback, the Bengals are still are actually one and a half point underdogs against the Colts. Now I'm not so sure why their favorite. I know the Colts have been pretty decent. Shane Stikin has done a really good job with Gardner men's shoe and working with that and keeping the Colts in the playoffs. Um, I mean, but Browning wasn't doing that bad either for the Bengals. I mean he was getting the ball out quickly and now they're at home. So I mean that was in Jacksonville. He performed pretty well last week.
Speaker 2:So I actually took the Bengals plus one and a half in this game. It's a favorite. All they have to do is win and you know they're getting points. I just, you know, I just don't see why it's a, why it's got to be that big of a deal when it comes to the Colts. Colts aren't. They're not world beaters either. Yeah, and last week. Well, think about this, since Since the Natty was an eight and a half point underdog last week, you know, against the Jags, and you know, they kept up with them, I mean even with Trevor Lawrence. They were keeping this game close. So, and that was Trevor Lawrence, I don't like the consensus that we all got.
Speaker 3:But I don't know, I just I thought that you know I like the Colts before. I seen that Taylor was now honestly, but no, jonathan Taylor, I just think you know Joe mixed and finally came alive. Maybe they'll get your Marge's going a little bit, but Joe makes it almost like I was in the driver's seat in one of my fantasy games. I thought I would win for sure next day. I know Joe makes it 30 points later and I wouldn't buy five points and I'm sweating the rest of the night trying to get the way like he might beat me. So I think that, uh, against the Colts team that's just had a lot of injuries, and yeah, I don't know, I think Jake Browning wants to try to hit the most of his opportunity, maybe to try to get a starting spot out where he's been in the league now a couple seasons. I think he was from Washington. So, uh, yeah, I think, a little plus money, I'll take the bangles.
Speaker 2:All right, and then Jacksonville without Trevor Lawrence, sunshine goes to Cleveland and Cleveland is a minus three. Joe Flacco looking like he can ball still a little bit, and and I'm taking Cleveland minus three. I mean Jacksonville doesn't have a quarterback. I don't know how good their backup quarterback is, so we'll find out this week, but right now I'm gonna take the safe pick and Cleveland plus, cleveland minus three.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, when I look at this game I'm pretty much on the same page as Kurt. Exactly I'm thinking blood bath, dirty type of game. You know, ugly, probably some turnovers. You know, I already know who the Jaguars backup is now and you know Joe Flacco, who looked decent in his first game back playing, you know, last week. I think that the bronze defense is better than the Jags. The Jags defense is a terrible, but the bronze defense I would give them the upper hand. So with that, I think what seems like an ugly game, probably, yeah, less than 20 points, the the lines at 30 and I think I think I'd probably take the under on 30. But with that, I think I'll go with, I think I'll go flacco and Cleveland, get it done again.
Speaker 2:All right, all right. All right, all right. So the next local game we got is Detroit at Chicago. Detroit is minus three at Chicago. I don't know. I like I want to say Detroit, but Chicago's defense played really well last week. But I'm still gonna go Detroit. I think they're starting Hopefully they're starting to pull together. They have to if they want to make a top seed here in the playoffs. So give me Detroit minus three.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't. I mean, I don't know this game's kind of cutting drive for me. The Lions nine and three, the Bears are trying to, you know, four and eight, training towards the bottom of the league. This game, I mean I know that the Bears would like to win it. It's a division game. But I just think, thinking that just from a From almost a business perspective, of the Bears just wanted to get it better.
Speaker 3:They have the Panthers pick and they want to try to get more draft capital for themselves. They're not in a position to win at all and they know that, I think, and the Lions are. So I think it's really almost as kind of cutting drive that At three and a half I think this game could that have point, could kind of get finicky, as these divisional games I like the Lions to win, but at three and a half I don't know could be a three point game for sure and then you get messed up on the hook of three and a half. So I like the Lions to win but don't know about that's been half.
Speaker 2:Oh right. So this Sunday night game and I gotta ask you guys this, because this has been a major topic in Nationals, national media has been saying it David Carr, first of all, first of all, fuck, david Carr. David Carr Doesn't know how to read a preschool book. He doesn't know how to read a preschool book, let alone a defense, and he's saying that Jalen Hertz can't read a defense. Come on now, man.
Speaker 3:Oh, first of all he said that, you said no no, no, no, the main top.
Speaker 2:Well with their, with David Carr right now. He said that Jalen Hertz should be bent for Marcus Mariota and said that Marcus Mariota could run this Eagles offense better than Jalen Hertz. He's an idiot. He's a fucking idiot. That's it like give.
Speaker 2:Now he was literally legit trying to make the case. He's saying, oh, jalen Hertz is injured, you know, let him heal up. Yeah, there's, he's not on an injury report report. What evidence do you have that he's injured? I Don't know, I don't know. But what? Okay, so I don't fucking know. I mean, he had a concussion. He had a concussion.
Speaker 2:So well, that would include us. We're technically media. So, yes, I'm not very intelligent, but but let me ask you guys a question what does that biblical beat down that San Francisco put on the Eagles mean to you guys when it comes to those two teams? Obviously, right now would you say that San Francisco is completely the better team, or would you say now, let me let me the preferences by saying the schedule makers like the Eagles the last.
Speaker 2:The Eagles have had the hardest six game stretch in the NFL than any other team has had this year. Because you, it's not just the teams they're playing. They go Miami, right, they go Miami at home, then what? At Washington that starts kind of thing. And then they go Dallas at home and Then Kansas City off of a buy. I know we had a buy, but you got to think that Andy Reid factor I've after a buy stuff like that. So Andy Reid after a buy, bills off a 10-day rest, san Francisco off a 10-day rest. And don't forget that bills game, the Eagles defense played 97 snaps 97 snap, that's like an extra game.
Speaker 2:The Eagles, pretty much the defense, pretty much played four games in the last 13 days, if you think about it. So, with that said like I know that I'm not listen right now 49ers of the better team. They beat the, beat the Eagles, they beat them handily. They talk shit, they got it. I'm gonna argue Eagles still have the best record in the league. That's the bottom line there. But do you think that means the Eagles are fake? Or was it where the Eagles tired?
Speaker 3:I Tired? Yep, I think tired and I think that I ended that just, it is evident by I Just I think you can't look at the egos team that we've seen throughout this season and say a Well rested, or at least a team with a little bit of rest, goes in there and gets waxed like that.
Speaker 2:Well, compared to having 10 day, that would be a from yeah yep, let me ask you this now I'll go ahead on curtain.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry I didn't let you make your point now. Yeah, I think. I think, like you said, a lot of the, a lot of the rest factors, I mean, that's, that's the thing. And then you still don't do them no favors with Dallas coming up and you don't do them no favors by putting them on a Monday night after that, which is which is kind of weird. So I don't know.
Speaker 2:Honestly, I don't think the Eagles have been exposed when it comes to, well, I don't think the Eagles have been exposed so far. I mean, I think San Francisco went up and beat them. If I told you, if I told you that the Games, if you were gonna play, if the Eagles are gonna play Miami, washington at home, dallas twice, san Francisco, the Bills and KC, and I told you that they were only gonna lose one, possibly two of those games, would you say that was a good thing? Those out of those, out of the best teams of thing, right? So every the National Media talking about that National Media are acting like the Eagles are two and ten and not ten and two. So that's my all they know, with David Carr saying that and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:But like, all right, and with that smooth transition that Hunter and Brandon just made Brandon, we're talking about just kind of reviewing, because it is the national topic of the week for a lot of people when it comes to the NFL, is the Eagles getting waxed by San Francisco over the weekend?
Speaker 2:And I asked these guys I said San Francisco, right now, san Francisco is the better team, they're the best team right now. I mean there's no, there's no way that I could sit there and say, well, if the Eagles, no, there's no excuses, you got wax, you got wax in your own backyard, regardless of the circumstances. You know, whether you played whatever teams in Whatever, whether you play teams, you know that were hard, with ten days rest or whatever, you still got to go do a hand of your business at home and they did not. So what do you think as far as that? Are the Eagles figured out and they're done, or and and they're done and the Cowboys got a nice easy game next week? Or is it just one of those things where They've had this three to four games and a 13 day stretch and they're tired?
Speaker 4:I mean I think it's a combination of what you just said, but I think the glaring issue is the fact that they are depleted on defense. And I mean really just the thing is, I mean you, you look at the numbers and statistics right now and I Mean it's, it's not good. You know like anybody can have their day, you know, on the Eagle secondary Anybody can have their day in the middle of the field on. You know, I mean that's the reason why they brought in check anyway at linebacker is because you know that whole thing between Dallas and Philly. I was talking to somebody else about this and I mean I'm not gonna say that we couldn't have benefited from his services, but at the same time he's strictly like a running down type linebacker and that's exactly what Philly needs right now. And if he would have came over to Dallas, you know he would have been a chess piece but he would have been in the rotation. He went to Philly for the playing time. So that's really the thing. Like, I mean, if Philly right now had the cream of the crop out there in free agency to fill up that defense, then I think things would get better.
Speaker 4:But down the stretch, I mean it is not a good time for them to give up so many points against the 49ers like they did, because you know a lot of the things that the 49ers do well on offense. Like you know, yards after catch. That's exactly what Dallas is gonna do. We're starting to figure it out now with Ferguson. We're starting to figure it out now with CD. I mean, we give him his double digit targets and away he goes. And the same thing with Brandon cooks, and I mean the list keeps growing of people that are getting healthy, and I think Philadelphia is actually getting unhealthy, you know. I mean I think that the only thing they have to hang their hat on right now is that they can get AJ Brown going and that defense of line.
Speaker 2:You know it's funny and it's kind of crazy, because this is the same defense that held Jalen waddle, rahim, mosser and Tyree kill the 17 points. Mm-hmm, you know I'm saying that that's crazy, and they, you know, they, just so, it's I, I go, it's. You're right, it's about a mixture of both, but I would lean on the fact that they're tired. I mean, they've been winning close games and stuff like that, don't get me wrong, but it's a mixture of it's being tired and the fact that the schedule makers did them absolutely no favors, giving them three teams in a Row with ten or more days rest.
Speaker 2:I mean that, sure, and while they, you know, and then you got a late, then you got a late Monday night game against the chiefs, and then you got a game in the bills that goes into overtime, and then you got San Francisco coming out there. So that's just, with all ten days rest. And then you give them Dallas in Dallas with ten more day rest. So we'll see what happens, but let's, let's talk about it. That's your team, man. And oh, hey, sir, which I don't mean to, I don't mean to leave you out there, andrew, but hello, andrew, how are you? How's it going now? What you don't know.
Speaker 5:I was actually a glad to jump in on this. You know just, I ain't say anything.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no.
Speaker 5:You know, brandon definitely bar from great points, so so.
Speaker 2:Well, what do you? What do you think? Let me just answer that question real quick before Brandon breaks down this Dallas and Eagles thing for us. From the Dallas perspective, what do you think, as far as they are, the Eagles figured out? Or is it just the Gauntlet of the schedule finally catching up to the Eagles and the way that they've been playing lately?
Speaker 5:I Definitely think you know the schedule had a lot to play with it and everything you know, dallas, you know, first, it's a kind of odd, like we, they have not been figured out yet. You know, if we Swimm a better like I, I'd love it. You know what would they been doing? I've been able to predict. You know what they've been doing. Philly like, I bet against them last week and you know the bet came true. So, yeah, the I Don't think Philly's figured out, but they have a lot of work to do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I um, they do, they do. Coming from a fan like I got, like I was telling these guys I got no excuses when it comes to the San Francisco loss. You got beat. Jalen Hurts didn't look good, the coordinators didn't look good, nothing look good on that team and I and I'm actually glad that we did lose you need to get punched in the mouth when you're playing like crap, like I mean you do when you're playing with us, you know, you know.
Speaker 5:But but the Niners also have made some upgrades to their defense too and like it's you know, they're going all in. So I Am not beating up on the eagles, but like, no, it's fine, the Niners, I, I kind of had them, you know, kind of you know, going to the Super Bowl too.
Speaker 2:So yeah, no, that's. That's fine. I mean the team teams that go to the Super Bowl, whether they win or lose. I usually mean the. The trend is is that they don't go back. So it's not like the Eagles would be.
Speaker 5:Right, I'm doing something. You know. But also you know, look, look what the Rams did. You know the Rams loaded up and I Think the Niners did the same thing, you know. So I, after this year, yeah, the Niners go to the Super Bowl this year and then actually they're just complete shit, because that's the entire team, because of money.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that right. So so what do you think about this? Brandon, dallas, dallas and Eagles? Obviously Dallas is a standard and it's actually for the Eagles getting wax. It's a standard home line for most home teams at three and a half. So what three and a half?
Speaker 2:That tells me it's just kind of like that's. It's the normal handicap, unless, you know, that may move a little bit at the end of the week. But I think a lot of betters aren't. I think it's gonna stay around there because a lot of betters aren't gonna know what to do with this game, simply because you don't know what Philadelphia is gonna be after this loss. Because if they got punching them out that hard, there's one or two well, there's one of three ways they can go. They can just kind of coast and maybe fix it and still win a close game, or they can be super pissed off and win a game handily, or they could, or this is who they are. They're a team that can't be really really good teams, because Dallas still is a really really good team and you know the playoffs.
Speaker 5:No I.
Speaker 4:Completely understand that point. I mean that makes sense For me, like I mean, with Dallas right now. Their last win against Seattle, I mean really kind of showed me something that they haven't done before, like the past like five years, and that is like win a game on offense. I mean I know that the game came down to a defensive play from Michael Parsons, but at the same time, like all those times were, you know, as a Dallas fan, you're waiting like okay, when's that gonna take this game over? When's he gonna actually get into the end zone Once he gonna, you know, work a little bit of magic and, you know, turn this game into, you know, from 50-50 to like we got it. And I mean he proved it this year.
Speaker 4:And you know, with a lot of the national media talking about MVP for Dak Prescott, I mean that's a it's pretty weird thing to even think about as a Dallas fan, because nobody was bringing him up in those conversations, you know in the beginning part of his career. And so, like I mean Now as opposed to like last year, and I don't I hate bringing up last year because I can't stand how last year went but at the same time the difference between last year and this year is that we actually have some dudes on Offense that we can other than CD lamb. You know we lost Tony Pollard in that playoff game against the Niners and I mean now it's like okay, we don't have to put all the weight on CD. You know they can't just double him and take them completely away. We can scheme him open, we can do different things, we can run motion and you know that brings up another point, is like Mid-season form is a thing. So, as you know, we were coming down the schedule like if you looked at those first early games, even against the Niners, I mean we were just running some like Preseason type, you know offensive Plays and I mean we weren't even scheming anybody open. I mean the Niners were playing too deep, you know, most of the time and I mean it's, it's. It was just kind of. It wasn't even like high school stuff, it was kind of like middle school stuff, if you ask me. I mean we weren't doing the prototypical things of a pro style offense.
Speaker 4:So you know, and then you look at the way the last game went with the Eagles. I think we were close there and if we didn't shoot ourselves in the foot, like several different times. I mean we had the game in our hands right at the end of the until we Screwed ourselves and pushed ourselves from back, from like the five-yard line to the 26. I mean it was just that it was within our grasp and we just let it go. So I think it I don't know, I don't it's always a divisional game. So I think that's why they have it at three and a half, because you, they don't know what to expect about From Philly, and it's the same as they don't know what to expect from now. Let's see it, and it's a divisional game. So I think it's right. On the money, it's just gonna come down to the wire yet again.
Speaker 2:Yeah, cuz I definitely think the one thing that Dallas still has to prove and and they did it a little bit with Seattle, but with Seattle falling apart there directly, a 500 team, so it's still that I know Philly looks like they're falling apart to right now, but they're still 10 and 2 teams, so a win against Philly would shut a lot of that that up, because you're talking about a Philadelphia team that needs one. We need this win, we don't need. Is it totally detriment to where, like, if we lose this game, we can't win the division or get the number one seed? No, not necessarily because we got, because they got Seattle, giants, cardinals and Giants after that, not that I know Seattle is the toughest game out of all of that, obviously, but and then obviously Dallas and San Francisco would have some help, but if they beat, they beat Dallas, that's pretty much a division in the books for for them, they got the division locked up. So so they you know this they need to be up for this game. So if they were to beat Philly, obviously it's a very good win, but, um, so you know, and it would do a lot for Dallas. So that's kind of what I got to see from Dallas, cuz that's we can also talk about.
Speaker 2:Dallas likes to choke in December. That's kind of been a thing the last couple years. Hopefully, that's that. I hate say it like the Washington loss last year. You know what I mean. Stuff like that like it's it, sure they do, they it's it's the same thing. They're kind of like the Aaron Rodgers as a team when it comes down to crunch time, like Aaron Rodgers is a great regular season quarterback Until he gets to the fucking playoffs. And Andrew will vouch for this. I'll always, he'll always vouch for this because I always say it that he, he chokes, he's a choker, he's a choke artist every time the playoffs roll around. He's done it one time and that was 13 years ago, so you know, unless you're playing, unless he's playing Dallas.
Speaker 5:I hope he's still giving him credit. Yeah. So I get kind of like what I did with the Ohio State Michigan game this year for some reason I gave Ryan Day credit and I took the house state. Yeah, you know. You know what I mean. Like I worked out. So sorry, but Dallas I might. I might learning from Ohio State do not take Dallas, no, when it comes to playoff time. So that's.
Speaker 4:That's why you won't hear me anytime soon be like this is our year. You know this is this is a time for Dallas. It's like I'm not that fan. I've been hearing that for far too long. You know other fans, so that's not gonna be.
Speaker 5:Yeah, we've been hearing it too.
Speaker 4:So yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker 2:All right, so so what do you guys think for this game? Give me. I mean, you're outright and you're in your bed. If you want brand, I know you don't. You know dabble and any gambling, you know too much. But Obviously, if, what would you? What do you think about this game? We'll go across the cross the line. Here will go Brandon first.
Speaker 4:I mean whoo, like I said earlier, I think it'd be, it's gonna be too close. I mean we should handle this pretty easily, kind of like against Washington. We should handle this, but I just I don't see it playing out that way. Like you said earlier, they're still attending to team. Oh man, I want to say that the line is right. But I'm gonna go with cowboys, you know, to At the three and a half. So I would say the cowboys at three and a half would probably be, For one teams.
Speaker 2:For one teams. For one teams.
Speaker 4:Say it say it, give me even sweeter when it is. That's 14 points plus.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I'll give them. I'll give Dag Prescott every, every one of his earned stats, except for the Giants games. The Giants are just so bad. They're so bad, yeah, but nobody so bad, yeah, I think, yeah, they did. They played them week one, right, right, brandon, week one, and then yeah, one 40 is zero. Yeah, all right, Andrew. What do you think?
Speaker 5:I'm actually gonna take up Philadelphia with the plus three and a half, so, listen, don't come back on this podcast after like six months and try to butter me up.
Speaker 2:Man, that's not how this is gonna work.
Speaker 5:You're not gonna be on my side, I own half of this podcast and go fuck yourself. I like Philadelphia, minus three and a half, or plus three and half, my bad. You know, dallas, I'm still not convinced on them. You know they, they played some teams. You know They've also cost me some money this year too. So I Like Philadelphia, you know, when it comes to divisional games too. So yeah, plus three and a half Philadelphia. I'm going with that on the way. Jay one, hers is not done yet. Jack Prescott, there's, there's a pattern thing with them. It is what it is.
Speaker 5:You know it, he's got a pattern of just like hey, we're here like, and now it's just time to blow it.
Speaker 2:So Listen, brandon if it makes you feel better. Brandon, he's a Browns fan, so it's I'm a.
Speaker 5:Browns fan. Yeah, I can see that you know what. You guys have had one quarterback all year, I've had five.
Speaker 4:Okay, so Deal with quarterbacks.
Speaker 5:Oh yeah. I mean, I get five quarterbacks, you guys only get one. That's all you, yeah, I um you know, you know, philadelphia defense I'm. I'm still on board with that too. So, um, yeah, philadelphia, yeah I, and, but even though you know a Dallas does great at home, I would they really do, but they're really 14 straight right, 14 straight 14 straight yeah.
Speaker 5:Yep 15 straight. I, I still have Philadelphia, you know going into Dallas and just you know doing the thing, because I think Dallas is do at home, you know to do what Dallas does and I, honestly, you know Dallas has cost me money but they've also been good for me this year too at the same time. So, week by week, but I, just, I just see the trend going. I, I have Philadelphia, plus three and a half.
Speaker 2:All right, all right. Brandon, if you want to wrap up, not wrap up your, but uh, what, what? You were in the middle saying I had asked you and then all of a sudden Things went and then, uh, so what do you got for me on this end?
Speaker 4:I don't know where I left off, but Definitely took Dallas at the three and a half. But I mean, the thought that I was completing was basically that I think as long as we limit the penalties which we've been able to do at home you know, on the road it's always harder, but you know, I think that we can limit the penalties at home just not make the bonehead of mistakes like we did the last time. I think that's gonna cook and, you know, I just hope I'm wrong about the three and a half. I hope it's even higher than that.
Speaker 2:Fair enough, yeah, yeah, well, I guess for my my prediction. So See, I try not to be a Homer and here's my things. There's a lot of good trends here, right, because Dallas is one, 14 straight at home, um, right, but, but Jalen Hertz is 13 and 1 against winning teams. Jalen Hertz has not lost back-to-back games in three years. So he's lost to san francisco.
Speaker 2:Um, the Eagles are actually not too bad against the spread this year. They, they've this, I think the um. The last few games against these tough teams, but the uh, but the last, I think the last three, they didn't cover they. Well, they cover, obviously they. Um, 49ers is one of them, but I, they, they've had hard times with the ones that they've had that. They've been favored in the last few times as far as going to a hostile environment in Dallas. That's a really good home team. They did just go into arrowhead, which is way tougher than Dallas to play in, and barely beat the cheese, but they, they held their own.
Speaker 2:I think the key to the game here is is that the eagles learned the lesson by not running the football. If they can keep the ball out of deck press, gotten that offense's hands out of their hands. The eagles can win this game. I just don't know if we're going to get dr Jekyll or mr Hyde with this team. So, with that said, I'm going to take the eagles with the points. But I think Dallas wins this game. I think it's going to be down to the wire. There's really you hardly see blowouts when it comes to eagles and alice Rarely.
Speaker 5:I the line actually jumped up to four today. I took that. Okay so, uh, but it is back down to three and a half. So so the said the public's coming in different and then the pros are coming in. Oh, hey, it's a. Um, yeah, I sorry, sorry, I've got about three bets on this.
Speaker 2:Yo, yeah, if you got an f4, I would take it at four, it's it's, it's gonna be a close game, um, but yeah, I think dallas probably wins this game.
Speaker 2:I mean, it's gonna be that close, like it's either eagles by one or dallas by one, but it's it's. But I I'm leaning towards right now. I'm leaning towards dallas, just because it dallas should learn their lesson and they should have ate up more of that middle of the eagles defense now with Shaq Leonard, I don't think you got on. He's not like this all-star addition that they're adding, but he's way better than what they had out there. They had me playing on line, the linebackers out there, and uh, you know, um, and again it's like the fourth game that they're starting the same defensive backfield. So, um, you got it.
Speaker 5:I, I would say I, I, I, I, I. I do think that the pro's are gonna bet this thing down to three. So if you're listening to this, and so three and a half, take three and a half yes that's a little yeah let me, let me ask you a quick question.
Speaker 4:So, uh, I mean, what do you think that Shaq Leonard brunt brings to the defense that you're missing? I mean I know you said that, you know basically you got yourself playing on in at linebacker, but I mean you think he brings more to the passing game, to the run game. Uh, or you know, stopping the run or the pass.
Speaker 2:I, I think he's a smart player. So there's more intelligence. There's more intelligence in our linebacker spot. He's gonna know where to be like. Maybe not this game in particular, but coming up especially for the playoffs. Because, like it or not, philly and Dallas are both going to make the playoffs this year. Whether they win the vision, whether it's the first seed or second seed, these guys are going to be in the playoffs and when that time rolls around, you're going to have a smarter, more experienced linebacker.
Speaker 2:Say what you want about the way Shaq Leonard's perform. His football IQ is very high. He's always in the right spots and it's the problem with those back surgeries and neck surgeries. Can his body get him to those spots? Um, if all, and and you never know one he's a hometown kid. Now he's playing in Philly and maybe and he maybe he's in a better scheme, because I know, I read that he hated the scheme out in Indianapolis, like it wasn't a fit for him. So maybe things are better. I just, you just never know. Then we've seen it before. Right, a change of scenery for a player Kind of rejuvenates that said players. So it's just, it's just better than what the Eagles have like it's not, like I'm like I'm not banging the drum for Shaq Leonard to be defensive player of the year on the Eagles or anything like that. It's just more or less like I don't know where the fuck Ellis came from. I don't know where Maro came from. I have no idea who these people are and they're playing defense on the Philadelphia Eagles. So I know who Shaq Leonard is. Yeah, nicoby Dean got hurt. I mean, the Eagles have had some very, very stupid injuries and even with Nicoby Dean with his playing time he wasn't doing all that well anyway. But you're kind of sure that you don't sure the linebacker spot up. You just get somebody competent in that in that spot, and the Eagles play like a nickel in dime package mostly. So it's not like he's going to be playing middle line, he's going to be going around around with Hassan reddick and stuff like that, you know, traveling probably. Um, I think his length, people liked his length, so that's good.
Speaker 2:When it comes to tackling, and if you watch last week's game, the Eagles couldn't tackle, fucking. They couldn't go fish, they couldn't use, they couldn't do tackling and fishing. You know what I'm saying. They couldn't use their bait and tackle there like there's. They couldn't even tell me what that is. So I just hope. And then you know it's a rivalry. So I just Dallas at home is good, we. We have a tough time beating Dallas when they're at home. I think the last time that we actually beat Dallas in home Handily is when we had Carson ones like Carson Wentz a second year I think is kind of destroyed the Dallas that year.
Speaker 2:But and that's the last time- yeah this rivalry has been really weird because, you don't know, it's always been an end of the year game. It's either they, it's, either they've had a backup quarterback in One of the teams had backup quarterbacks in or it's been the. It's been a game at the end of the year when neither one is playing for anything Like one's resting players and the other one's trying to tank so right. So this is actually the first time in a long time that the second game means something.
Speaker 4:Yeah it. It definitely feels like, um, what it's supposed to be. Because, like even last year, like you know, I was like, okay, jalen or no, I'm sorry, dak was out, and then the last game Jalen was out, and then it's like, okay, you know, we want to see that like Money type game, and you know we're finally getting it, and uh, I mean I just think it's gonna be fireworks, it's gonna be quite the Sunday night game.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it's the first time that Jalen Hurst and Dak Prescott played each other twice so we'll see. Yeah, we'll see how that works, um right right.
Speaker 2:But from from going from an Eagles podcast that it has been the last 20 minutes. Let's switch it over here and I want to get I want to actually get your guys's opinion now that you're on it, because, um, what do you guys think, because you guys are both obviously intelligent people when it comes to football and college football in general, what is your thoughts on this college football playoffs that we're having here? Are you, are you that upset about Florida State, or do you agree with putting Alabama in? What do you guys think you want to go first? Oh, you're already talking, so why?
Speaker 5:don't you go first. Yeah, um, I'm actually all about it. I mean, you know, if you look at who uh florida state played yeah, you know they play some good teams. You know they won those games. Um, they're, I think, at the end of the day. You know, yeah, the college football committee, you know playoff committee is. You know, it's all about the money. They want some good games going on. Uh, florida state not getting in, I'm all about it. Alabama getting in. I think that Alabama still has a chance to take it all. I, I don't. I have watched michigan and bear suss once again this year. Kurt, I know you love hearing that so.
Speaker 5:But yeah, I, I think the committee got it right. Um, everyone's just saying like oh well, it's sec, the committee can't. You know? Well, the sec is a gauntlet in my eyes. Um, to the ohio state fans I don't love you. I'm a buckeye fan, but I don't love you. Guys like um, stop bitching like we. If you thought that we had any chance to get into this, you know the dance with Washington, texas, albama, florida state. We had no chance. Just no like.
Speaker 2:I'm not even yeah.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I mean I. I mean if we were to beat michigan, yeah, let let us in. If we beat michigan, let us in, but still michigan would have gotten in too, again, you know. So I mean I, I'm all you know this year, you know, from a better standpoint, yeah, I'm, I'm all about this one. Um, we'll see how the lines work out. I'm gonna be hitting them up, you know I got a whole month, you know how, to watch the lines, see how they spin out. So, uh, texas and uh, washington, um, I don't see them in national champions, but you know they did the dirt to get it. So, florida state, sorry guys, like it's, it's a cc bro.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what do you think, brennan?
Speaker 4:Yeah, I think at the end of the day they got it right. Um, you had five conference champions, so you had to leave one out, and you left out the one that doesn't have a starting quarterback, that played uh a worse uh conference, and I mean Michigan wasn't moving. And the fact that georgia moved out, you know I think was right, because there I heard a lot of noise about georgia and alabama getting in. I was like that wouldn't be right at all. But I think the five conference champions who went in their conference title games Uh help that matter. But uh, yeah, I like, I like the four that they they landed on Um, I think they're all gonna be pretty good games, um, evenly matched.
Speaker 4:I don't think alabama is a powerhouse like they were in the past. So I think, uh, it's, it's the perfect recipe for, okay, who are you picking? I mean, you could pick any four of these teams and I think that you'd have good odds to Uh actually see them win at all. So I I think this is probably going to be one of the more exciting final fours, rather than like last year when uh tcu got lit up by georgia and the national championship game. I mean that was pretty, uh Pretty sad to watch a national title end that way. So I don't think that that's going to be the same case here.
Speaker 2:So Well, uh, I, so I got we. We kind of had a little bit different takes and me and curtain, and I'm honored it. Uh, so I think georgia should have stayed in. I see, no, absolutely no reason for alabama to have jumped georgia. And if you look at alabama schedule, um, alabama has is only averaging Like 29 points a game. All right, like that's. That's not good against the competition that they played it I go. You know georgia's handily beaten everybody that they've needed. Um, I think, I think that the Lost, the alabama lost, for georgia, even though it's a comfort championship that lost it's not as bad as the texas lost from that alabama has on their on their schedule. Not to mention that they allowed they allowed um florida state to hold them to 17 points, like alabama, like not florida state, not florida state. What was that? What the heck was that? Um, I told mississippi state, I think, as one of those. What's the little green?
Speaker 2:What one of these teams it was like. I think the game. It was zero to 17.
Speaker 2:The game was zero to 17 in alabama one and they had these games all year. They don't have an identity and I know that people say it's going to be good. I think michigan waxes alabama. I mean that there's nothing, I don't know. Well, I don't like alabamas quarterback and, yeah, that defense is good, but I don't think alabamas defense, they could barely handle yours and that running back at texas they're going to handle blake quorum and the tandem of running back they got out there. And then jj mccarthy he's one of the smartest quarterbacks in the mc Double a right now. He should be a heisman Like a candidate more than any.
Speaker 2:Then then people are making them out to be. I think alabama gets wax. They're just, they're not the same alabamas last year. So I think we're going to have ourselves of texas and texas and and michigan Um, what do you call it?
Speaker 2:National title game here, and I've been on texas all year. I I kind of that game. I kind of consider it a toss up, um, but yeah, I don't think alabama deserves to be in there. Alabama didn't deserve to jump orgin. They didn't deserve to jump, they just deserve to jump a house they. Ohio state has no right to be anywhere near the playoffs. In my opinion, just the way that they've looked all year and then that lost to michigan. They got no right but jump, but jumping georgia and jumping um Oregon. I don't think alabama, I I just don't think they should have done it. I think I think that fourth team should have been georgia, should have stayed georgia. I don't you had. They've been the first ranked team all year and all of a sudden you drop them down to what? Six, seven for the alabama loss. That doesn't make no sense. That makes no sense when last year you dropped Ohio State down from one to four.
Speaker 4:Mm-hmm makes no sense. Well, the thing is like they said forthright, like years ago, that they they weigh heavily the conference championships despite, like what happened during the year and everything else.
Speaker 2:It's an odd mission Michigan in Iowa. I'm Michigan in Iowa, that's you know.
Speaker 4:I'm saying, I'm just they got up way that.
Speaker 2:I mean. I know, that's what you say that, yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's just their way of getting out of this. Like, if you want to play that game where we're like, okay, you know, forget all the conference championship stuff. Like who played in what game? What teams do you think are are the best four teams? They they'd have a mess of a time trying to figure that all out. I mean, I'm just happy that you know next year we don't have to deal with a top four and all that crap. I mean yeah for seeding.
Speaker 4:It'll be important, but at least you know if you're top 12 you're getting in. So you, you play it out and you show the world like what you're all you're made of. That's why, like this year is kind of like bittersweet. You know how state didn't get in. You know Like I knew we wouldn't after we lost to Michigan. But at the same time it's like okay, now all that one lost thing, all those conference championship things.
Speaker 5:So it's out the window. I'm not one of these old house safe and they're like, oh man, we're just gonna book Michigan's ass. I don't know what's gonna happen in that game. I'm looking at the lines and everything, but like I, I can't say that next statement just gonna, you know, take Jim Harbaugh to the cleaners.
Speaker 5:You know I mean, but if, if, bam, I just wins, even by, you know, let's say, a field goal, or at one point, I mean, you know what's, what's that say about the selection, I mean I would tell you, I would tell you from, you know, just from Right, I mean I would tell you, you know, just from, uh, you know, being a buckeye fan and also, you know, just being a better. Um, like if I I think, uh, michigan, you know, if Michigan handles Alabama, you know, and committee, like that, that shows that the committee got it completely wrong. But on the exact opposite, you know, like if Alabama even come, let's say Alabama even takes you guys to, you know overtime, say, and you guys still win by, like a field goal or something like that, like that, I still I think the committee gets, gets it right. Yeah, that's how I feel about that. Um, I mean, as far as Florida state.
Speaker 5:Like when I look at the matchup, like I don't see Florida state matching up with any of the top four, especially Michigan, especially Alabama, um Texas, I think you could, you know would uh handle them. I think Washington could do like I just don't see Florida state as a a team that's going to, I guess, make make things interesting, like like what the buckeyes did in um the very first year of the playoffs. I just don't see Florida say doing that, you know, especially with with the third string quarterback. I just don't see it. You know the the matchups just don't make sense when you compare the Florida state against the top four that made it in.
Speaker 2:Because Alabama is their favorite child and that's why did you have any more Um, any more, any more bets as far, any random, because I know I took I took the LA Rams at Baltimore Plus seven and a half out Seattle plus 10 and a half. They got waxed by san francisco last time and I think in a revenge game, even at san francisco, they're going to keep a club. They might still lose, but I think they keep it closest in 10 and a half Um, they played a really good defense and the cowboys defense, so I they can score. They just got to get their shit together and get that running. Yeah, and go and get that running game together. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:So, um Plus, they're coming off of a Thursday was a Thursday night game, right, that was a Thursday night game, right, yeah, yeah, that was a Thursday night game. So they got, they got a couple days rest, right, so they got some rest. And they're coming against san francisco, who has a high. You know what I mean. That was their ever san francisco super bowl this season. Like they were, they were, they were ready, they were hyped, they were high energy and maybe they come back down a little bit after, after winning that game and Um, so I think Seattle keeps it close to the 10 and a half. Andrew, do you have any, uh any, random bets? You want to touch on a little bit a couple of them.
Speaker 5:I've ran the bets. Um, yeah, I mean, I'm going to. Uh, I got kentucky into bills. I'm gonna take kentucky minus two. Um, we already discussed earlier. Um, I'm taking philadelphia plus three and a half at Dallas and um, as far as I, I'm not gonna put any money on the, uh, the quima game, but the detroit game at chicago. I hate to do this to detroit, but I think I'm gonna take chicago plus three. So they're at home. Detroit had not been playing the way I thought they would. I think another good bet would be carolina plus five against new orleans. We'll see where that number drops. Um, I think it's gonna drop, you know, in the favor of, uh, carolina. So, but, yeah, that's what I have for the nfl. Um, yeah, it's kind of weird. I jumped on this podcast like there's no college games.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all right Now. It's been a good, it's been all right season. It's a move. We've done our.
Speaker 5:We've done our things on here and I will tell you, you know, since, since I had not been on here for a while, um, I actually had my, my worst week of betting on Thanksgiving Day weekend. I think everybody did the worst, the worst weekend ever. Um, I, I hit like, oh my god, it was awful. Like, um, god, I, I think, if I I would look at I think I hit like three percent that day and I had a couple of part ways, but it was that bad. So I thought Ohio State was gonna be a recover. They did not. And then, uh, the nfl, like god, don't worry, you know these guys will get me and Nobody. Yeah, it was awful. So, but I did recover last weekend, pretty big.
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