Community Connections: From Ozempic to Microaggressions

How often do you find yourself grappling with societal pressures about body image or worrying about the implications of taking diabetes medication? If these questions resonate with you, then our latest episode of Big Sexy Chat is right up your alley. We don't shy away from the hard stuff, in fact, we dive right into a poignant discussion about Metformin and Ozempic, and their potential ramifications. Merf offers insights from his personal experiences with these medications, and we go as far as dissecting the controversies and lawsuits surrounding Ozempic—an eye-opening segment, to say the least.

But it's not all pharmaceutical talk, we have some exciting news to share! In January, we're partnering with FatCon and Pucks aplenty for a live event in Seattle. What a joy it is to anticipate being in the same room again, sharing our stories and experiences. Of course, the safety of our community is paramount, so we stress the importance of vaccination and mask-wearing for all attendees. This event, we hope, is a beacon of optimism for all of us craving that human connection after a challenging couple of years.

From discussions about microaggressions to extolling the virtues of Liberator's plus-size furniture for sex, we cover a lot of ground in this episode. Can you imagine the comfort and flexibility of sex furniture that actually caters to larger bodies? It's about time! We also emphasize the importance of supporting small businesses and friends' ventures, not necessarily with money but by sharing their content and spreading the word. So, join us for this enlightening chat, and don't forget to follow, like, and subscribe to Big Sexy Chat. You won't want to miss out!

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:04

Hi, welcome to Big Sexy Chat. I'm Crystal, I'm Murph. We're just two rad fatties sitting around chewing the fat Twice a month.

Speaker 1: 0:13

We'll be chatting about current events hot topics sex, sex toys, about politics, about community, cannabis, cvd, you name it. We're going to talk about it. We are very excited to have you a part of our community. Welcome and enjoy. Hi, welcome to Big Sexy Chat. My name's Crystal, my name's Murph. We're so happy to have you back listening to us and involved in our community every way you can. We love you guys to pieces. We're going to talk about some really interesting topics for today. First, of all we're going to actually cover the ozempic topic.

Speaker 2: 0:48

Lots to talk about there, I swear.

Speaker 1: 0:51

But let's start with something fun, murph. I want to tell everybody about our fat con. It's going to be so much fun. If you haven't heard of fat con yet, oh, it's going to be in Seattle January 7th through I think I wrote down the 5th through the 7th in Seattle, at the Hyatt all of eight, double Tree in downtown Seattle, and we're going to be there in attendance. But also we have extra special announcement to make tonight we are going to be partnering with fat con and Pucks aplenty and their whole team. They have this amazing team of people creating this fat con event for us and it's going to be community in person. I can't wait, murph.

Speaker 2: 1:32

Oh I'm so excited it's going to just it can't not. There's no way it could fail, it's just. It's so good to be able to get all of our folks together and just be in one space and have community. Oh, I'm so excited.

Speaker 1: 1:46

I can't wait to be around a bunch of other fatties. It's been a long time, you know. It's been since, well, february 2020 ish Exactly, and I've had a few things here and there since then, but obviously, you know, because fat people often are marginalized, like other groups that are oppressed, and we often don't make as much money or have as good of insurance as other people, and that kind of did put us at a disadvantage for people who got COVID, and then, of course, the whole world was saying, if you have your fat, you're going to get COVID, which wasn't true. There's just more fat people in the world, y'all, we're the majority, and so, yeah, I think that put us all kind of like on our heels, like afraid, scared, shitless, right To be out.

Speaker 2: 2:33

Yeah, everybody didn't want to interact. It was so scary because you didn't know. We didn't have that herd immunity where you know you can get sick and okay, I'm not worried about the repercussions of what's coming, I'm not going to immediately die or end up in the hospital where the first couple years of that was really really scary.

Speaker 1: 2:54

Remember when I went and got my first vaccine? Because I used my fat privilege. That's right, the only time in my life I ever got something extra or fun because I'm fat. But yeah, remember, I cried and I took a picture. The LA Times saw me and decided to write a story about why was I so emotional? I said, well, I'm going to get to use my fat privilege first of all. It's the first, but I just felt so much fucking relief because the amount of people texting me and calling me Crystal, you're fat, I'm worried about you. And COVID, thanks, I'm good.

Speaker 2: 3:25

Yeah, it stopped a lot of the world. I mean just in general. But really the focus was, you know, if you're overweight, if you have diabetes, if you have, and everybody just kind of you know, our culture just shoves all those things into one. And so then it really just became this like attack on fat people, like, oh well, then it was like, well, who really gives a shit? You know, like people would say like I don't care if they die, or you know, die.

Speaker 1: 3:54

They have no willpower. Serious, oh, we're going to talk about willpower.

Speaker 1: 3:58

We're going to talk about it I know, I'm sorry to tease that, but yeah, yeah, you know it's going to be exciting to be in community, be with other faties. I'm going to be very careful. I'm getting my vaccine on Tuesday, can't wait and, like we reminded everybody via our Instagram, I believe, and Facebook. But if you are a person of size, you should probably ask for the longer needle. Yes, we get to get through our fat, and what are two know where exactly the needle's supposed to go. So that's supposed to go into our muscle, is it?

Speaker 2: 4:25

No, I don't believe so. It's just supposed to go into the fleshy part of your arm. Okay, but I think because it doesn't get through enough of the layers. If you're larger, then it disperses differently, and so they're saying that if you get the longer needle you'll have a better disbursement of the medication through your body.

Speaker 1: 4:47

Yeah, I think I told you this before. But a lot of times the doctors and stuff, they don't bring the large cuff for me because they think that my arms aren't that big. But I'm like, have you seen the rest of me?

Speaker 2: 5:00

I'm a large person.

Speaker 1: 5:02

Okay, my arms might be slightly smaller than other people's, but it's, they're still pretty big man, some guns, you know, but I guess they're trying to be nice. Oh, which arms aren't that fat Right, still pretty fat. You should see it shake. Exactly, I could knock you out with this little thing hanging here. My bingo wings got my bingo wings. Watch out people. So anyway, fat con, I plan to be vaccinated. I plan to wear a mask.

Speaker 1: 5:31

And we are so excited because we're going to get to help audio record all the fun stuff going on at fat con and there's so much stuff going on, fun it you want to tell everybody about the fun stuff that's going to happen at fat con, that's not us.

Speaker 2: 5:44

So there are going to be some select vendors that will be. They haven't been announced, but I know a lot of people are anxiously awaiting to hear who's going to be there. But there's keynote speakers that will be there talking about various topics in regards to fatness, anti-fatness, all the things that we deal with those kind of topics, and then they'll be having some fun activities in the evening. Lots of sexy burlesque planned for the evenings Fat burlesque.

Speaker 1: 6:17

Yes, fat-a-lesque they're calling it. Yeah, saucy, one of our favorites, one of our friends, she's going to be there talking about. She talks a lot about size freedom. She created the hashtag hashtag fat and free. But Saucy is one of those advocates that are out there in the world taking on all the crap from the designers who don't make stuff beyond a size 4x. She's advocating for those of us who are on their larger side of the spectrum. I appreciate all of her work and she'll be there. Tigris is going to be there From Napa. A lot of Boutet is going to be there.

Speaker 2: 6:51

Yeah, and they just announced a sex holist. Yes, I saw her.

Speaker 1: 6:57

I remember Dr Laura, something or other. I know she's certified. She's part of the Asset Crew Group, right? Yeah, she looked pretty badass.

Speaker 2: 7:08

Yeah, I'm excited I'm going to get to talk to all these people and interview them and it's going to be a really fun event, and so I know that not everybody has the means, but there's a couple months. If you can save up and get it out there. It's going to be a really awesome event. And I think one of the things that I thought was so interesting and you can speak on this a little bit more, Crystal, because you have a little bit more background on it but this is one of the first cons for fat people. I know there's another one happening right now.

Speaker 1: 7:47

Right now yeah.

Speaker 2: 7:49

So I mean this is new and this is something where in our space, whenever I talk to staff or something like that, I'm always like if it's something new, you got to try it out and see if you like it, because if you like it, you got to participate.

Speaker 2: 8:04

And that's the way those things continue and grow and get bigger. And so, yeah, if you have the means, please come out, because we want to meet you and talk to you and we want you to experience what community is like in person and we want to hug you, but with consent, enthusiastic consent only.

Speaker 1: 8:22

But I can't wait to hug all my fat friends. I know Fatties give great hugs.

Speaker 2: 8:27

Yeah, and the hotel is fancy. I know it's going to be really nice.

Speaker 1: 8:31

I can't wait to take over the hotel with all those fat people. Oh, we're going to have brunches and they have speakers and they have panels. And yeah, I mean Tigris is going to be there, which is just amazing. She's the chair of NAFA. And then I guess they haven't announced all the other keynotes yet, but a lot of our friends are going to be there and I'm sure some of our friends will be sponsors there too. So that's going to be really exciting. And yeah, we get to go everywhere. We get to audio tape and possibly also videotape. Lots of record. I should say, not tape. There's no such thing as tape anymore.

Speaker 2: 9:07

I know. Anyway, I know what you mean Record the millennials in older Right. Yeah, it's important to Pucks who's the creator?

Speaker 1: 9:12

of this event Pucks, who's the creator of this event to have a record, because a lot of the records of things that we've done as fat community have either been lost or not recorded at all. They call NAFA one of the first ever recorded like they put that word recorded of record, you know, of an organization for fat people and they're 52 years old, or 53 years old now, absolutely. But she's, you know there's been a lot of other people before and after. That just hasn't been fully documented.

Speaker 2: 9:46

Absolutely. And I think part of that too, is that you know we've been marginalized and that's one of those things where people don't. You know it's hush, hush, it's secret, it's not out there, it's not you know a part of the zeitgeist. And now we get to be like kicking that door. We're done Like we're recording everything, we're putting it out there. If you can't make it, you're going to at least be able to hear it.

Speaker 1: 10:10

Yeah, for sure. And yeah, we're excited to meet Pucks too. None of us have ever met Pucks in person, but they have an amazing team, they have an amazing vision and it's going to be just so exciting. And don't forget, if you get on Southwest Airlines newsletter, you get informed when they're sales first, and they just recently I had a 50% off sale. So you know if you, I love flying Southwest because they have that person of size policy that we talked about in our other episode the fear of flying while fat is real man.

Speaker 2: 10:44

Yeah, and we get that. It could be a really scary process to get there, but once you're there it's going to make up for whatever has happened in that process to get there.

Speaker 1: 10:54

Shares that fit us, beds that hold us, restaurants that are ready for us, hotels that are ready for us. It's amazing what Pucks is pulling together, and also I'm sure the event in Philly was amazing too, because they also had an amazing team and just yeah, it's going to be so excited. So, anyway, we really we want to let everybody know we're just finally kind of announcing that for the first time, they're actually going to be a strategic partner with Fat Con, and Pucks invited us to fully record the whole entire event. So watch out for us. We're there, yeah, buddy. So, merse.

Speaker 2: 11:27

Yeah, just really quick. Before we do that, where would they go to learn more? Because, if there's two Fat Con. I'm just curious, you know, like if you type in Fat Con, is it going to take you to that one, or so it's fatconorg and they're using the hashtag hashtag the fatcon and we do have a link and I just shared it on our Facebook page.

Speaker 1: 11:50

We'll continue to share our link on our Instagram output, in our newsletter that's going to go out tomorrow morning, and always on our social media. So if you want to go find our link, you can go. You know, get directly there, but yeah, it's fatconorg right now and that's their website, and then their hashtag is the Fat Con. So, and it should be pretty easy to find, because if you just look out the one that's in Seattle, because there's only two right now, if ever, and East Coast and the West Coast Exactly, and I have a feeling there'll be a mix of people from both. You know, I think there'll be some overlap too, which will be lovely, absolutely. So I want to talk about the hot topic this week and I know Hot topic man. This topic we're going to talk about Ozympic.

Speaker 2: 12:34

Growing every day. There's a story about Ozympic.

Speaker 1: 12:38

Oh Lord, I tell you and I still I mean I think I will always support anybody that's taking it for diabetes. I will always protect and defend and stand up for anybody that's taking it because you know they have a medical reason. Do I feel like you have agency and autonomy of your body? Absolutely. If you take it for other reasons but I'm probably not going to be, I probably won't be the person back there, you know, defending you because it's made for diabetes and if you don't have diabetes, don't don't take it out of other people's veins. Basically, you know they need it. Diabetics need it Absolutely.

Speaker 2: 13:17

And I know you have experience with it.

Speaker 2: 13:19

I do so. I have polycystic ovariancine and endometriosis and it's also it's also prescribed to you with PCOS, right, yes, and so one of the things I have insulin resistant PCOS, and so I'm always teetering on those numbers, you know. And so my my doctor was like will you try this as an option to bring down your numbers? And I said, yeah, I'm willing to try it. And I can't even begin to tell you the uncomfortable intestinal issues that occur. You're constantly bloated, you're constantly gassy, but it's like painful gassy.

Speaker 2: 14:03

It's like you know, just like I got a fart. It's just like it's building and bubbling up inside you, up here.

Speaker 1: 14:09

Yeah, in your chest and stuff.

Speaker 2: 14:11

Yeah, you feel uncomfortable, you definitely don't want to eat, like I was like you know, even just I don't eat a lot, but I would just be like no, I'm just not, you know, I'm not hungry or I don't even want to eat the standard meal that I would normally have, and it would make like. Then it would just be like random diarrhea or random you know, like you're just like what's going on. So I was like, okay, this is pretty uncomfortable, but I've taken metformin before and it's kind of similar in the sense that your body has to get used to it, right. So I'm like, okay, I'll give it some time. So I did it for a month and still was not happy. And then my doctor was like, well, let's go up, let's up the dosage, right, and this is good, your numbers are coming down, this is nice, let's keep going. So I took the next step up in dosage and I vomited for 11 hours. Oh, my God, murph. Then I have muscles that I didn't even know existed because I was vomiting. So much.

Speaker 1: 15:13

That's painful. Wow, your numbers were getting better. What does that mean?

Speaker 2: 15:17

They were dropping. They weren't in that high level of pre-diabetic. It was more like just getting into the standard levels of like what a person's sugar should be on a regular basis. And so once that happened, once I had the vomiting fit, I basically was just like, okay, let's get through the rest of this week and hopefully not vomit and I did. And then I was like I can't do this anymore. I was terrified to do the next dosage because my body was just recovering from the week of being sick and so I stopped taking it. And then she said let's put you on Manjaro. And just horrible, horrible pain, Same. It felt like I got hit by a big rig, Like my body was just Like I couldn't move.

Speaker 2: 16:12

It felt like when I had COVID and like your whole body aches and hurts. Yeah, like it. Just you felt so tender and so I just said this is not for me. Then I'm like seeing what we're going to talk about next, which was like all the problems that come with it. I was like this is not worth this. I need to stop this. So that was the end of my trial run with those drugs. I know you've had an experience too.

Speaker 1: 16:38

Did you like have DTs? Were you able to just taper down, or how did that work?

Speaker 2: 16:43

Yeah, so basically because you take the shot once a week and so you have about 30 days after you stopped taking it for it to get out of your system. And let me tell you, it really does take the 30 days. That's it, it really does.

Speaker 1: 16:59

So you inject it into your body, your belly, your leg or something like that, and then it's supposed to. It's a week, you said right, it's supposed to take one week at a time. And then how do you know when to go up or down?

Speaker 2: 17:14

You doctor guides you that way yeah, your doctor guides you that way they kind of see how your body is tolerating the side effects or the symptoms and then also how aggressive they have to be. So I know people that have started at 2.5 milligrams instead of the 0.5. It just depends on where they see you being the best at. But there's no way I went up to I think it was a 0.5, so I went up to one with those in big, and that's when I was just vomiting nonstop.

Speaker 1: 17:49

Wow, yeah, I'm so sorry. What a shitty thing, geez, but if you read everything, you believe it's just like the, it's like the second coming, and people are just so excited because they are. Oh yeah, I guess they're losing weight, and some people don't lose any weight at all, though.

Speaker 2: 18:11

Right, I wasn't. I lost maybe a pound, maybe two pounds in the month that I took it and my doctor sold it to me, like I'm ready to get a different doctor. We've had this conversation. I live in a very small town, very few doctors to choose from, so everyone's fat phobic. I've been through most of them. But she was just like you're going to lose so much weight. This is the new gold standard. This is going to take over from weight loss surgery and everybody's just going to be on these drugs for the rest of their lives and it's just going to do amazing things for you. And if I could take it, I would take it, but I'm not obese. So I have to wait and tell it's down in price because right now, just to get it over the counter or whatever, like the cost out of pocket is like $1,500 and I'm not going to do that. But oh man, when I can, I'm going to jump on and I'm like is your doctor, even fat she used to be.

Speaker 2: 19:03

She had weight loss surgery. Oh well, there you go. No, she's chunky, but she's not. You know she will. She isn't what I would. She's a small fat. Can you, can you have had weight loss surgery and take this crap? I?

Speaker 1: 19:15

have no idea that sounds. I mean, they both sound frightening. Yeah, I'm getting a lot of pressure from my doctors. They really want me to go on it because my first of all, if you don't have diabetes, then you're pre-diabetic. Okay, I don't care who you are, I don't care what your A1C is, you either have diabetes or you don't. But I know everybody wants to talk about this fucking pre-diabetic bullshit and they don't like my A1C, because my A1C just starts like bouncing between like 6.8 and 7.2. They want it to be below 6, I think Once you go over 6.9, you're considered diabetic, like okay, okay. And then I just I'm so afraid I'm scared shitless to take it. But I know people seem some people really love it. I hear right here a lot of people say how I am quite down the food noise in their heads they don't feel as obsessed about food. But oh, all the other side effects and the things. How long this junk has been around for about 10 years, right.

Speaker 2: 20:12

I am I'm honestly not sure it's not it's not enough.

Speaker 1: 20:15

It's not enough research, it's not enough. We need more.

Speaker 2: 20:20

It really doesn't feel like. I mean, it really doesn't feel like it has. It gives me fin-fin vibes.

Speaker 1: 20:25

Totally exactly. Yeah, you have to be old enough to know what that is, though.

Speaker 2: 20:29

Yeah, so basically it was legalized meth that they prescribed, and people started hearts started exploding, you know, and then having aneurysm basically in their heart and all those kind of things. They pulled it from the market and this is giving me those kind of vibes seeing what's coming. They've got issues with stomach paralysis.

Speaker 1: 20:56

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 20:57

That's becoming a big thing. Is that the gastroparesis or whatever?

Speaker 1: 21:01

Or is that something to do with it?

Speaker 2: 21:01

Okay. And then there's a new one. There's a new class action lawsuit against Ozimpic for intestinal blockage. It's basically creating an intestinal blockage because the food doesn't completely digest, from what I understand, like I don't know. And then you've got the you know the complaints of Ozimpic, but for the people that really are losing a lot of weight, it's just that it's coming off quickly and they're not exercising those muscles and so you have loose hanging skin and the response has been like oh, you don't want Ozimpic, but or you don't want Ozimpic face.

Speaker 1: 21:39

Yikes, that's frightening I don't understand.

Speaker 1: 21:43

It's yours, um yeah. So the other thing that scares me about taking Ozimpic is I take an anti-depressant and anti-anxiety medication and I've been reading that people. I mean there's a million reasons why I'm afraid to take it, but this one is one of the big things I talk about a lot because I feel like the reason why people have weight when they have weight loss surgery and they become depressed or even I hate to say this, you know, I know people it triggers people, but sometimes people consider harming themselves or you know worse and because they're weight loss surgery, a lot of what happens in your brain happens in your gut. So if you're not, those enzymes and stuff can't do their thing. Like maybe you've had 90% of your stomach amputated. Your body can't do all that stuff that your brain, that your brain needs for your good mental health. And I'm worried if I took Ozimpic, what would happen to my how would my still anti-depressants and anti-anxiety medication would have worked correctly? I don't think so. Does anybody know? I don't think so.

Speaker 2: 22:39

Yeah, well, a really famous influencer, selena Spooky Boo, did a whole talk about it because she was on it and said she had to get off of it, because she was basically at a hotel and was like maybe I should just jump right off of this top floor bill. You know she was kind of like whoa and then hard to recognizing that those intrusive thoughts got a lot worse from those Ozimpic. Even if it has been around for 10 years, it hasn't been studied in the way that it needs to be, and that's something that really is concerning for me, because you were sharing.

Speaker 2: 23:17

You know that the community that built the medication where is it? Denmark? Yeah, like they're advancing, like and building the city because that's where the home base of this drugs at. So they're getting money hand over fist Gross and it's like what's going to happen when something like Fin Fin, you know like it's coming. You know it's coming, of course, Of course.

Speaker 2: 23:41

You're already starting to see the class action lawsuit. It's Ramos Okay, especially when it comes to people that are using it in a way that it's not supposed to be used, because they're not diabetic. It's going to happen Like there's the downfall of this miracle, what you know drug is going to be significant and it's going to impact a lot more people than just the fat community or just the diabetic community or you know. It's going to have repercussions.

Speaker 1: 24:10

Hollywood's screwed because they're all taking it. I mean they're having ozimpic parties oh, that's really cute. Yeah, people need it to live. It's a fucking drug that diabetics need to live. And you're having parties because you're five pounds overweight and I mean I know Hollywood is like one big eating disorder, but pissing me off like Mindy Kaling and Elon Musk and man, you don't have diabetes. Please don't take it, I just, or insulin resistant PCOS. If you don't like that's, don't just take it for weight loss. It's so rude, it's so sad, and if you're Howard Stern, he'll be. He's going to be sad if there's no fat people, because how is he going to feel morally superior from now on?

Speaker 2: 24:57

Yeah, howard's. Oh, it's Howard Stern, so I listen to every once in a while. To.

Speaker 1: 25:03

Howard Stern.

Speaker 2: 25:06

And I think that he's come a long way. But he most recently in the trades, said I have the willpower to be thin and I don't need this ozympic stuff and anybody who's taking this ozympic stuff to be thin it's bad on you because you don't have the willpower. The man eats the exact same thing for breakfast every single day and it's like I get two almonds as my snack and I get he's not living his best life. He's telling you that he is because he's thin, but he's miserable and it comes from him and his entire family. Basically, having shoved that down, him and his sister's throat.

Speaker 2: 25:48

But I digress. It's so interesting to me that there's this bickering back and forth of like who's a good fatty and who's a bad fatty, who took the magic pill, who didn't take the magic pill? Who did the easy way out with weight loss surgery, who didn't? Yeah, the competition is ridiculous.

Speaker 1: 26:07

I've heard a lot of people go on ozympic and don't tell anybody in their life that they're on it because they're embarrassed to be on it.

Speaker 2: 26:13

I'm shameful to say that they're doing it.

Speaker 1: 26:16

There's no easy way out. I don't care what you even weight loss surgery, I don't consider that easy way out at all.

Speaker 2: 26:20

God Jesus, Not at all. There'll be progressions that come from that.

Speaker 1: 26:23

Here we go.

Speaker 2: 26:24

He's done it. I have a friend that I was recently speaking to about weight loss surgery and they didn't do the work, the mental work that it takes to address how drastically different your life is going to be. And you know it's that whole like. I just need it now. The fix is now and I'll deal with all the other stuff later.

Speaker 2: 26:46

And I think a lot of people are going into ozympic thinking I just need this now and I'll deal with all the repercussions Later, not knowing that those repercussions may end up killing you he.

Speaker 1: 26:58

Howard said I just hate that I have the will power to be thin. No, I just love that I have the will power to stay thin, he hasn't he? Like six foot four? He's. I'm gonna guess his genetics keep him that thin.

Speaker 1: 27:15

I mean, why can't people believe if so? I'm sure you know people like this oh my gosh, no matter what I eat, I can't gain weight, tall and thin, and you know they're all willowy. And then I eat so much I still can't get weight, gain weight, no matter what I do. Then why can't people believe the inverse? Like I don't, I don't eat that much and I gain weight. Like I, I can look at food and gain weight. I, I don't really eat that much. I mean, sure, certain days I have more, I might go like have dessert or have dessert at lunch and dinner. I, that would be like my craziest, you know. I mean I don't know I don't eat that much, but my body doesn't change because these are my genetics. My people all look like me. Yeah, you have the same bodies, not like ours. There's nobody in my family that's blood related to me that has a body like our storm.

Speaker 2: 27:57

Exactly, and if you see Howard church family they all look like him. You know it's. But there's this concept of Moral reckoning that are. You know that I'm better than you are because I've Suffered. And he talks about it all the time, about how he only eats a bagel and it has you know, Like okay, man, like your whole life is around that and you talk about it all the time like I wouldn't think I don't think so.

Speaker 1: 28:28

I would rather be fat honestly, and I mean I love being fat honestly, but I don't. I don't worry about what I eat. I eat whatever I want to eat. You know, I don't. I eat what makes my brain feel good, honestly. That's Things that make my brain feel good, are things with protein, things with fiber, and I really love vegetables.

Speaker 1: 28:46

I do love dessert. I'm not. I'm not afraid to admit that. I Feel sorry for people that don't have dessert and think they have to be good. If jogged eat dessert, I'm like, oh, that is so sad, just have dessert. God, have to punish themselves. But people, I I get so sick of people posting on social media about their diet and their exercise. Like why do we have to know that every time you exercise, like I'm gonna start writing down when I have a bell movement and see if they're interested, cuz I'm not interested in their fucking exercise regimens. Like People tell me, will I do that for accountability? I'm like, okay, I guess, but yeah, why do we all have to know like you do? You do exercise as much as you want to, but why do you have to tell everybody all the time yeah, it's a sick of it.

Speaker 2: 29:31

I know and I think things like this, like ozampic, just perpetuate that big time. Yeah, I've seen a pretty large influx in my friend group of people doing like before and after photos or getting weight loss surgery. Or you know, I'm taking ozampic and I'm losing so much weight.

Speaker 1: 29:53

Or you know, it's just like MERS oh if you're Doing this because you say I'm having weight loss surgery for my health or I'm taking ozampic for my health, why would you need to post a before and after picture? That's just about your appearance.

Speaker 2: 30:10

Tell me it's about your health, while you sit there and take a million selfies and I'm in a large now instead of an extra large or whatever it may be. You know, I have the willpower suddenly right, yeah. Yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't make much sense to me and it's it's really sad because I think people just lose sight of how much that impacts the other people around them you know well, you know they're raised in the same world we are raised in, which is the worst thing.

Speaker 1: 30:41

You could possibly be as fat, yeah they are. They are all conditioned to believe that that's the worst thing. I'm sorry, but no, that's not the worst thing. There's way worse things than that, like to be racist or pedophile or asshole. You know, I I don't get it, but I do feel like a lot of people feel like they are morally superior Because the exercise more or they eat less, or they think they eat better than I do and Like, yeah, okay, I know, sometimes I'll ask my friends, can we stop talking about we're gonna be good and have dessert, like, if you can't have dessert, for whatever your fucking reason is, could just maybe not say it out loud because others of us want to have dessert or we want to order Something decadent and we don't want to be judged by you. If you're judging us, go ahead, but just keep it into your, keep it inside, inside voice.

Speaker 2: 31:29

Hey, I've come to the point where I'm basically like don't shit on the table, thank you. Like that's what you're doing. You're shitting on the table, mm-hmm, and the rest of us have to sit there and look at the shit. And none of us want to look at the shit, like, keep it in your ass or take it to the bathroom. None of us want you to shit on the table.

Speaker 1: 31:44

I'm gonna start using it up.

Speaker 2: 31:46

It feels like that's what people want to do, because there's this, there's this constant need to be validated, trying hard to not be something that You're gonna end up being like there's. You're not stopping that. Like you stop ozimpic, guess what happens. It's just like every other thing, when you with weight loss, it all comes back and and then some the rebound murph.

Speaker 1: 32:15

did you this might be too personal, I don't know, but did you feel like, mentally well, when you're taking it, did you feel anything that was different at all?

Speaker 2: 32:24

I did notice a lot more intrusive thoughts. You know where I well, I struggle with my OCD, so Intrusive thoughts happen quite regularly for me. But they definitely became a bit more intense and I, you know, I think part of that also was just because I really didn't feel good. I mean, I would just like I'd wake up in the morning and just feel like Almost like somebody had pumped me full of air in the middle of, you know, and I just was be uncomfortable and just like what is this?

Speaker 2: 32:59

I, you know, I would eat nutritious meals where it, you know. I felt like, okay, this was good and that was enough and I'm good. You know, it's not like I was sitting there overeating or eating really greasy food.

Speaker 1: 33:09

Yeah, yeah you know, like upset my stomach it was just the medication.

Speaker 2: 33:13

People like shit their pants and stuff too.

Speaker 1: 33:17

Just like they do with weight loss surgery. Yeah, there's like oh, just can't control it, like you, you can't. That's why some people don't even leave their house, because they have that kind of like spills of diarrhea that they they're afraid to even leave their home, their own home toilet, absolutely. Oh, that sounds terrible.

Speaker 2: 33:33

I'm telling you the run into the bathroom and the just feeling sick, it. It's like if you can tolerate that on a daily basis. I have a job, so having to like go to meetings, and I'm sitting there thinking like, oh my god, I'm like, you know, just like bar fun for everybody right now. You know it. Just, I don't know how people do that regularly and and I can't imagine being so unhappy with myself that I would take it to any means necessary to do something like that in case people don't know they don't know what intrusive thoughts are.

Speaker 1: 34:03

I'll give an example of one that I used to have before I got my medication, which was Talking to the people that I love the most. Murph, like I love these people, and the whole time they're talking to me, all I can think is in my brain Will you shut the fuck up? Yep, and I told my psychiatrist. She goes oh, crystal. No, that's not good. I had a feeling there's only a couple people I really, really love and I'm just like god, you should the fuck up and she's like yeah.

Speaker 1: 34:31

You shouldn't tell that way. That's an intrusive thought, right? Murph that is. And to give you a bit more of an extreme, your stuff thought when I was on ozampic.

Speaker 2: 34:41

I remember driving home and there was a pole On the side of the road and I was just like what if I just slid down? And I was like On the side of the road and I was just like what if I just slammed my car into that?

Speaker 2: 34:53

Yeah, that's not you, that's not me and you know and just like, ooh, that felt really uncomfortable because then your brain goes to this really graphic image Right, that's what an intrusive thought is. It's something where your brain basically doesn't have a filter and it says go, go, go like do it, do it, do it. And so I could see where that could be really scary for somebody who doesn't have coping skills to be able to regulate that and say that's not good.

Speaker 1: 35:21

Yours is very similar to Celine's then.

Speaker 2: 35:23

Yes, yeah, she's so freaking adorable she is.

Speaker 1: 35:27

We need to share her info in her YouTube with her and her husband. I think they're so great, but she's really she's a fun to follow, I think, on social media. So no more. No more of a journal, no more stampede out on that business.

Speaker 2: 35:44

I'm going to see him a doctor at the end of the month, this month, and so I'm sure I'm gonna be told I'm a bad fatty for, you know, not trying it. And then I'm sure we're gonna try like the whole. Well, I'm not gonna try it, but she's gonna try to sell me on, like we go, via whatever the other. There's like four of them aren't there, so she's gonna, I'm sure, gonna try to sell me on one of them, but I'm just gonna be like we're done, I'm not doing this. It's not worth it to me.

Speaker 1: 36:07

Yeah it's not worth it. It's not worth your your full. First of all, the intrusive thoughts alone is reason enough to have to do it ever again. But yeah, I just yeah, it's so new, it's just so new. I do know people that have had great success with it, that are using it for other diabetes and like they just, you know, lost 40 pounds. They're still, you know, 300 pounds but you know, just came off of. They weren't trying, they didn't change their diet. Do people get, like, do they give you, like, do they tell you what kind of food either? You know that when you take those some picture, they say, hey, also make sure don't eat things that are too rich or whatever, like that's what, okay, they tell you like greasy foods, foods that have been processed there.

Speaker 2: 36:47

They're going to basically the way it like. I don't know how, I'm not gonna get into specifics, but basically it's like the way that it breaks apart the parts of the food To digest them. It's harder for it to happen with a really oily based diet, wow, okay.

Speaker 1: 37:07

Yeah, it's kind of like dumping. When you have the weight loss surgery right, where they just the things that are too greasy, then it just kind of goes right out.

Speaker 2: 37:15

Yeah, and I think part of that too is that not only does it go right through you, but then it creates all that extra gas and all that uncomfortable. But yeah, I really a lot of the thoughts and things like that around food. You just don't, you're not interested in it. So it must do something to your brain to stop that any kind of like thought of oh hey, maybe I should eat. Like I had to remind myself to be like, hey, I should eat something or I'm probably going to pass out.

Speaker 1: 37:43

Oh yeah, I don't ever need to be reminded to eat, but yeah, like.

Speaker 1: 37:46

I said I'm always trying to eat for my brain because I can feel my brain's like I need food, I need water, and then my brain goes okay, do something about it. But yeah, it seems like that kind of masks that I think also there's some absorption issues in the in the gut right. So that's partly why the antidepressants stuff are being absorbed properly and also certain nutrients are just going to go right through you because it's not absorbing, it's slowing down the absorption, I believe, in your tummy right.

Speaker 2: 38:10

Yes, and so I think that's why they're having all the problems with the stomach paralysis and the blockages, because it's just not breaking down food the same way it should.

Speaker 1: 38:21

But it's magic, murph it's magic. Yeah, people in Hollywood love it.

Speaker 2: 38:27

If my doctor says the word gold standard again and when I go see her at the end of October, I'm just going to be like, okay, we're done, like I'm going to find a new doctor. Sit and spin Weight loss surgery is the gold standard right now, but Ozympics is going to be the gold standard in the future. Like, okay, you can't take one to replace the other, they're all shit.

Speaker 1: 38:50

Yeah, they're all shit, yep, and I know lots of people have weight loss surgery two times and they're all fat again, so it's not really the gold standard. You know, murph, you have such a pretty face.

Speaker 2: 39:04

I'm transitioning. The rest of my class, though, I'm transitioning to our microaggression discussion. So we tried. Someone reach out to us and ask about how you handle microaggressions. I think there's a couple ways that we can have this discussion. I look at it as there's pretty much three options. You can address it and call it out and educate them as one, you could ignore it, or you could have a passive, aggressive response in return. Yep, I don't know what you think, crystal. Are there other ways that you feel like you could address it?

Speaker 1: 39:45

No, I mean, I'm to the point where I just address it right up front and I'll even just say something equally as rude back to them. But you know, I'm old and haggard and grizzled and just like fuck you, I'm so sick of this. And people talk oh, I don't, maybe that's not what they meant. Yeah, I've been fast since the third grade on 55. I know what they meant. Okay, there's no doubt about it in my mind. I know, I don't doubt that. I know, because this is my life, I live life. I know when people are being they're, they're trying to say something like oh, you're such a pretty face, you know what? What about the rest of me? That's a fucking microaggression. So I thought you're just pretty. That would be different. If you say you have such a pretty face, that means well, that's good news. At least you have a pretty face. The rest of you is ugly, though.

Speaker 2: 40:33

I mean that's what it sounds like to me. That's exactly what it sounds like, and they all know that, unless they've, you know, unless they've been hiding under a rock for the majority of their life, they know that they've seen some sort of passive, aggressive response To something where you can see those micro pop up.

Speaker 2: 40:55

It depends on the audience. For me, you know, I like I really have to take it in stride sometimes and just say I'm gonna ignore this and and not waste my breath because this person doesn't deserve my breath. Um, but like you said, you know, feeling that kind of haggard I'm, I'm definitely becoming much more passive, aggressive in my responses about it now. Where I used to be like hey, that's not cool. You know, let's talk about how that's not cool and provide them education, now I'm more like hey, that's not cool, and you're kind of a dumbass for bringing it up. You know, like I'm really like there's it's becoming less and less of a filter.

Speaker 2: 41:34

So I think it really depends on who you are to handle on my question how you comfortable you feel with that audience that stated it to you and then how much you really want to address it.

Speaker 1: 41:49

Let me tell you one that happened to me that cracks me up still. You know what teppanyaki is, right, when you go out to dinner and they're it's like Japanese style they have the hot, you see around the hot stove and they're cooking all the food for you and you sit with a bunch of strangers, typically right. So we go out to your lunch teppanyaki and we end up sitting with ten people my boyfriend and I. He sits to my left, there's him and another person to my left I'm like the third person in and then there's like four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten people and the guy, the chef, starts doing all the food. He cooks up you know some vegetables first, a bunch of I know I've talked about this on the show Before, but like zucchini and I'm just little, you know they could it he chups it up into little pieces and puts a sauce on it. He goes around the table. He puts a little bit on each and each plate.

Speaker 1: 42:37

Okay, I'm the only fat person out of ten people here, right? He has some extra vegetables. Guess who's plate he put it on. That would be me. Which awesome, because I love them and I love zucchini and I love all the little stuff they put on it. But I was like, okay, I see you asshole like and my boyfriend. I don't think he made anything right. You sure the fuck did promise you he thinks I need more vegetables because I'm fat.

Speaker 1: 43:02

And why didn't he give it to the really pretty Lady at the other end of the table, or the you know the tall and thin guy who looks like he's freaking hungry? He gave him to me I'm the only fat one To. That's a micro aggression that's.

Speaker 2: 43:16

That's a perfect example of a micro aggression, yep, and like you said, like that's one where you're not gonna educate, right, you're gonna just enjoy the fact that you got extra veggies because they're amazing expensive and move on your life. But you know, when Sally, your co-worker, comes up and says you know, are you sure you want to eat that you know, or whatever it really need seconds?

Speaker 2: 43:39

Yes, Whatever that that little snarky, Undermining kind of comment happens. That's when you get to choose. You know, do I want to engage with this person Sometimes? You know, I've been to places where I've been out in public and someone will make something like that, and I know I'm not going to engage with that person. But I'll just say that was a shitty thing to say.

Speaker 1: 44:04

I'm gonna try you, you know like, yeah, most of the time you're gonna.

Speaker 2: 44:07

If you say something like that, oh I you know I don't need to hear you. I'll tell you how to apologize. I'm just gonna tell you that was shitty, like I'm gonna call it what it is. But if somebody really doesn't get it and I feel like this may be a light bulb moment for them, I'll take the time.

Speaker 1: 44:28

Yeah, yeah, well, just if you're gonna order dessert, just just eat it or don't don't order it. If you can't eat the whole burger, fine, take it home. You don't have to make all these. Oh, I haven't jogged any soy cam. Only you have the burger today, fine, but those are all microaggressions too. Okay, just fucking eat it or don't don't order it. If you can't eat the whole thing, I don't know why do we all have to know why there's eight of us at the dinner table? Why do we all need to know that you can only have a cheeseburger today? I'm sorry that you can't eat your whole cheeseburger. I feel bad for you. I Terrible. Eat your cheeseburger. Don't go out to dinner with friends. You're gonna have to make it miserable. All these microaggressions make it miserable for all. I got a jog tonight. I better jog tonight. I'm like, okay, you go right ahead.

Speaker 2: 45:10

I Know, and it makes me just want to be like oh God, you so need a jog tonight, fatty like, because you know that the person who said that Doesn't have the weight on them to precipitate that kind of response.

Speaker 1: 45:24

Nope.

Speaker 2: 45:25

It's like I've seen on a tick tock, a lot of people or like in the fat community Are saying things like when somebody says you know, oh my god, like do I look fat in this? I'll be like what's up twin. Oh, hey, you know, just to like throw it out into their face of life. I'm just gonna, I'm gonna put it right back on your plate because I don't want this shit. It's like you take it.

Speaker 1: 45:48

You're sure, john, you need to jog like 10 miles tonight, woof.

Speaker 2: 45:52

Yeah, I'd pick it up and not you fire. You know like you have the ability to do that, it's just do you want to choose violence, and that's okay. If you decide you want to choose violence, honey, I guarantee you you have had enough microaggression Surrounding you that you deserve to choose violence every once in a while, for sure.

Speaker 1: 46:10

Yeah, and I know a lot of my family members, especially my older family members. They still, you know, they love to discuss everybody's body and oh, I saw so-and-so. She looks so fit and I usually just let it go back. What do you mean? What fit? Fit, how, what do you mean? They're like you know, I go what Thinner? Well, yeah, but you know, but no, when you say fit, that means thin. You know, I already know what you're trying to say. That's your code for thin. Okay, coming up, exactly, but the older people, my family, still do, they can't. I can't as much as I try, I just come exhausted.

Speaker 2: 46:46

Honestly, I'm just so exhausted and that's where it's one of those where it's like this is not worth the time to to have the breath to explain it to somebody Because it's gonna go nowhere. I've done lots of things to harm myself to get to the point to try to not look like this and like this, so I'm gonna start liking who I am and not having to worry about any of those other things that is that liberation.

Speaker 1: 47:11

Absolutely, it is and that's what fat con is gonna be about. Right, it's about fat liberation. It's about celebrating fat bodies, celebrating fat people. We don't get celebrated very often, of course we get. We get told we're glorifying obesity all the time. No, we're not. We're glorifying living as you are, loving yourself, as you are not worrying about fricking diet. If it was willpower and it was that easy, nobody would be fat. Howard Stern, nobody. Why would? Nobody would choose this because it's awful.

Speaker 2: 47:43

Exactly. Nobody wants to be made fun of every five seconds of their fucking life. I swear to God, it seems like it's non-stop lately.

Speaker 1: 47:50

Well, yeah.

Speaker 2: 47:52

I had somebody that I was previously a friend with and I found out why I'm not a friend anymore. They deleted me.

Speaker 2: 47:58

But we're on a message part together and a friend asked me a question about weight and the response from this person was that they stopped following the body positivity movement because it was taken over by fat people and it was Pro fat. So when she got called out for her comments, she said I am hardly fat phobic. I said, well, hardly, isn't I am not? Yes, right, you're still evening. Even in your own nomenclature, you're leaving in the words that say that, yeah, I'm a little bit Right, I'm a little, I think I'm a little bit fat phobic.

Speaker 1: 48:36

I'm also a little bit racist. I'm a little bit Public.

Speaker 2: 48:41

Yeah, yeah, no, it's, it's your lot and you're trying to suppress it as much as you possibly can, and you thought you had an open forum Right to come out and say whatever the fuck you wanted to say and I get called out for it. So I get it. But I think that I just I feel like I'm constantly saying Right now, do the work. Yeah, do the work like You're it out, because you're bleeding on everybody.

Speaker 1: 49:07

Yep, it's kind of like slaying the patriarchy. Sometimes I just get so Exhausted by it all and you know, slaying the fat phobic people and just like men Ruining a lot of things. You know I've like I'm so tired, sometimes it's exhausting all of it.

Speaker 2: 49:27

I know I love it when they have those like social justice, self-care courses or you know it's like it's so necessary because there's only so much. You can constantly be Screaming and I feel like I scream this all day because, all day. I'm berated with microaggressions all day. I can point out it's a On average daily basis. I'm dealing with at least a dozen comments in one fashion or another. I'm not surprised. That sounds about right.

Speaker 2: 49:56

Yeah it's, and how do you function in a regular you know life of just do you address all of them? No, you can't. So I think the biggest thing from the microaggression Talk is like, if you're, if you're experiencing that, just try to step back as much as you possibly can and be like I. How much is this impacting me? Not the other person? Yeah how is, how much is this in me and what do I need to do to protect myself from it?

Speaker 1: 50:24

Yeah, it's great advice. I think it's important to decide you know who you want to flip off and who you just want to walk away from Absolutely. It's not worth it sometimes. Anyway, tough topic and also internalize fat phobia is a mother effort. Fat people are often the people that are doling out the microaggressions.

Speaker 2: 50:48

And a lot of them come from folks that are in the, I would say what I would consider like the uptick of like, oh, I'm feeling good about myself because I've lost weight, or whatever it is. And that's what honey? That pitch comes swinging back down and it's going to go far.

Speaker 1: 51:05

The other way.

Speaker 2: 51:05

It's so hard and you haven't done the work to stop it. So when it happens, it's going to come crashing down and I'm not going to be there to help you pick up the pieces.

Speaker 1: 51:15

No way, man. It's not your job, so do the work. Do the work, Janet.

Speaker 2: 51:20

Yeah, and come to Fat Con so that we can do fun stuff and not talk about stupid bullshit or have to worry about this.

Speaker 1: 51:26

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 51:27

Come dance and eat with us.

Speaker 1: 51:29

We can all eat in front of each other and not worry about anybody's judging us and oh, she's having a second helping of mashed potatoes. Just do whatever you want to do, just like other people do, like all the thin people do. They just eat and do whatever the hell they want. Nobody even judges them. So that's what I want for my life, as Fat Con is going to give that to us and we can't so excited and we get to be really involved. It's just going to be so, so much fun. Anyway, hi Degress.

Speaker 2: 51:56

So one thing that we always talk about that has a struggle when it comes to weight or fatness or all those kinds of things, is the concept that people think that fat people don't have sex, and we are here to prove it wrong, and I know that we had quite a generous offer from one of our sponsors. Jump into the vibe of the week.

Speaker 1: 52:21

Thank you, marv. Yeah, so exciting. I know if these are, these are restraints. I got to test out something. I happened to sort of complain on a group that I belong to. That is a bunch of people who sell sex toys and I said how come so few people design sex toys for us? And this guy from Liberator said hey, are you fat? And I go, yeah, he goes, we're trying some new stuff. We want to see what, if this is going to work for fat people or not. Would you try it out? That would be, yes, I did, and it's called the scoop rocker and it kind of looks like a half of a.

Speaker 1: 53:00

If you took a muffin and you scooped, if you cut off the top, you know the arched part, the good part of the muffin, the one with all the blueberries or all the chocolate chips or all the fiber, it's like it looks like a top of a muffin, it's like a muffin top, and then it rocks on one side, on the, on the oval side, and then on the other side it's flat, like a straight flat, like the ground flat, and you can either use it to rock or just lie flat on it and also, if you want to, it has the walls, have Velcro on them and they created these little goodies. I know people who are just listening can't see them, but they'll be on our video on YouTube. But they have these little tiny. I'm going to make the sound that makes like Velcro sound. I'm really sorry to our editor, who's going to have to hear this in a second because it's going to make that sound. These little guys, these little woo, hear that sound. These little like.

Speaker 2: 53:51

I know that's, I know it makes you tired, that's right.

Speaker 1: 53:55

So they're like four inches long and they're made from that material and the side of the wall of the scoop rocker is made of Velcro, so you can put these little doodads for lack of a better word anywhere you want to, you know, depending on your size of your body, and then you can use the restraints on the side to restrain the person or you can be restrained. You can use it to restrain, put your ankles or your wrists into it and you're kind of like on this rocker, and what they're trying to figure out is that is it wide enough? Is it big enough for people of size? I said, you know what it is, it's two feet wide. It's supported my entire butt and, like all the Liberator products I know, you know this Murph, we talk about this all the time Well before they were a sponsor, we, you and I, loved Liberator products. They hold up to my girth, they hold up to my weight and this scoop rocker definitely held up to my weight.

Speaker 1: 54:45

I could lay on it, I could be on all fours on it. I could, you know, I could do all kinds of things on it. I used it to stretch out my back. Oh my God, that felt so good, Cause it's an arch, you know. So I had it flat on the ground. Then I just stretched over it, over it, you know, with my face up. Oh, I got a good stretch from that. It's like, oh, it feels so good, so much fun and it rocks. If you want to, and also you can like you're keeping rhythm with your partner and they can kind of keep you in rhythm as it's rocking back and forth. Or you can turn around, like I said, and put the flat side down and just use it for support. I could hold up my booty and, if you wanted, like, let's say, deeper penetration or maybe oral giving the oral might be easier from somebody to giving oral to a woman, a woman of size, because then things can kind of become more easily attainable. Sometimes, you know, when larger women sometimes have smaller clitorises or our labia can start to kind of like I want to say like, keep the clitoris more hidden. It's easier if you're kind of laid back and you can kind of the person can see and get to your clitoris more easily.

Speaker 1: 55:52

There's so many ways to use it. It's beautiful, just like all the products from Liberator, so much fun. Four and a half stars out of five. The only thing I didn't like about it is that they sent me a white one, which I think you know it's. You can tell that you know the cover and the washer and the dryer. Just like all the Liberator products, it has that lovely fat zipper on there. So if you do wash it and dry it or, you know, you can even just dry it on top of the dryer or whenever air dry it and just you put it right back in the zipper works, it all fits again. It's like all their products. I love it but just wish it wasn't white. But that's just a personal thing. I like purples and black and when it comes to sex I want darker colors usually. And yeah, it goes in the washer and the dryer just like all the other toys. It's so great.

Speaker 2: 56:32

Love it. Nice, I was wondering if you would still have, like the, the benefit of, when you flipped it over to the flat part, that sort of scoop giving you the ability to kind of put your body, your butt, more firmly up in the air. So that's good to hear. Absolutely Love it. It's tidy.

Speaker 1: 56:51

For oral, for sex, for doggy style, for on your back style it's, and it's super wide and I like I measure it's two feet, my butt fits entirely on it. I wear like a size 2830 pants from you know the avenue or Lane Bryant or Catherine's, and it works for my butt. My butt was not hanging off of it and, yeah, it's much bigger than an airplane seat, which are 17 inches, you know the scoop broker is 24 inches wide and it's perfect.

Speaker 1: 57:23

It just was lovely. And, of course, the density of the foam is amazing and it holds up to my, my, my, my butt is pretty big my butt, my thigh, my lower tummy so it held up to all of that. That's awesome.

Speaker 2: 57:37

Yeah, it was really really fun.

Speaker 1: 57:38

I know, I know I love the Liberator, I still love them. And yeah, really these are restraints. You can take it on or off, the little scoop rocker thingy and it's like very like adjustments shorter or longer between how much you need and who you're tying up, and you don't have to use the restraints at all if you don't want to, you just have the rocker thingy. They're like the nice cushion, the sex cushion, basically.

Speaker 2: 57:58

I love that they've made it so that you can like strap it anywhere you want on the sites, because the ones that I have they're permanently there so you can't move them around. So that's exciting At first.

Speaker 1: 58:10

we didn't quite get it. You know, I was like this seems janky. And then I was like, fix this one, because this one is bugging me. And I was like, oh OK, now I see why we have that moveable and it's very flexible. You can make it for a really tall person or a shorter person. It just gives you a lot more. Yeah, it could just adapt all kinds of different bodies and heights and weights and everything that's so cool.

Speaker 2: 58:33

I know they're thinking everything like.

Speaker 1: 58:34

I'm so happy they're thinking of us.

Speaker 2: 58:37

Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 1: 58:38

They have that black label line right.

Speaker 2: 58:41

Yeah, the black label line is their restraint line. But the plus size line they've got, like I'd say, at least a half a dozen, if not more, products for the plus size furniture. So, like you said, you know you're getting a good quality product. When you're getting a liberator product they're not the cheapest, but did they give you what the MSRP is on that? Normally, I think people retail it for about.

Speaker 1: 59:12

They're going to retail it for about $3.25 possibly, but it's about the same as the rest of their products and the thing is they last forever. So sex blankets, all of that stuff, oh yeah, we had a giveaway, by the way, and I did. I sent out an email to our three winners and I only heard back from one of them, but we, liberator, gave us three sex blankets to give away.

Speaker 2: 59:34

So I'm waiting to hear from the other two people.

Speaker 1: 59:36

I want to put their names in the newsletter. But yeah, liberator products, my sex blankets last forever. Yeah, everything holds up to the washer and dryer. We say this over and over in our episodes. I love their products, I've always been a fan, and now they figure out a way to make it easier to ship across the country. So if you order it from somewhere, they make it really small and they suck all the air out of it and make it tiny so they can put it in a smaller box, nice.

Speaker 1: 59:59

They thought of everything. Now they're good, good products. They're pricey, but you'll have them forever and ever. And if you don't, you can just sell people. It's for yoga, yeah, but you can just leave it in your living room.

Speaker 2: 1:00:09

It's a bean bag for all they know, Right yeah they have no concept, not at all. That's so cool. I'm very impressed. I'm so excited.

Speaker 1: 1:00:19

And the only other company that I know that specifically makes products for us is Sports Sheets Right. They sell strap and a couple other things that are extra wide or long for people of size. So, man, the sex toy industry has a long ways to go for us. We like with big. They're even doing the fat. People have sex too, for their mattress marketing. Because we have and we have money to spend on it, we want it, the good stuff. Murphy and I I know I call us sex toy snobs we both like the good stuff. And I'm 55. I don't, I don't want anything they sell at Spencer's. I just don't.

Speaker 2: 1:00:51

It's not way beyond that. I don't need $3 made from like polyurethane Like I don't need any of that crap. Like no, I'm not into the novelty of it. I want a sex toy that's going to last. That is an investment that I know I'm going to get your use out of I agree. Because you know it's go hard. Yeah, also, it's like no, no.

Speaker 1: 1:01:17

Fast fashion no fast. Sex toy no fast. I don't know what you call it. No junk. No, no junk in my drawer and you went through all the junk away. Yeah, same here. All that's good. Yeah, I highly recommend it.

Speaker 2: 1:01:30

I'm excited Okay. I definitely have to look. I've been looking at that um Chase lounge that they have Um I. Just every time I see it I'm like, oh I just want that because it. It looks sexy. It's so curly.

Speaker 1: 1:01:45

It's very sexy. Yeah, the. I always tell people when I go to the hustler store here. I'm like I'm moving in, okay, I want to live there. They have all the beautiful, the greater stuff, and they have this big, huge charging table. They have all these beautiful high end dildos on it. Oh, heaven, slow down.

Speaker 2: 1:02:03

I want to move in, Right. I know I'm always like maybe I should just get a part time job there so that I get the discount and I can just be in the environment all the time. You know like I'm just like I talk myself out of it all the time, but I think about it a lot.

Speaker 1: 1:02:17

I just podcast and work at a sex toy store.

Speaker 2: 1:02:21

Oh, I love it.

Speaker 1: 1:02:22

I'm in it's like oh, yeah, right, oh, if only, if only, All right. Well, I think that's about all I have to say about the scoop rockers. Anything else you want to add to that or what? What do we need people to follow us on Instagram and we would love people to sign up for our newsletter. We have about a thousand people that have approved us to send them, send them newsletter stuff I sent up twice a month. Um, just go to big sexy chatcom and that's our handle on Instagram and everywhere else. I really want to get up to a thousand fans on Instagram. We're just under 900 right now, but I'd like to get it up there a little higher.

Speaker 2: 1:02:56

Oh, I think we have a marketing campaign on our hands.

Speaker 1: 1:02:58

We do.

Speaker 2: 1:02:59

Share with your friends. You know, I think that's one of the biggest things I've been seeing a lot lately is like supporting small businesses or supporting your friends venture. It doesn't always mean like spending money.

Speaker 2: 1:03:09

I mean, yes, we'd love it if you spent, you know, two bucks on coffee for us, for you know, that would be great, um, but if you can't do that because groceries are, you know, like a thousand dollars right now um, then share our content, share with your friends, because it's like a, you know that, that old saying if you tell two people, then they tell two people, and then they tell two people, and then our network is growing, growing, growing. So, um, do your best to share content over the people that are making content that you know and that you support and appreciate.

Speaker 1: 1:03:45

So that's huge.

Speaker 2: 1:03:46

You can follow us on all the socials at big sexy chat.

Speaker 1: 1:03:51

Oh, I do have one other thing to tell you. I haven't told you this yet. Um, my friend, Tony tales, the artist, she's making some window clings for me, the ones that you could put on your car. They'll tell people that you have a big butt and please don't park too closely. We kind of came up with a little spin on that and, um, I think we're going to launch those next weekend. So around the um second weekend in October for those of you who are listening at a different time I should have some fun stuff to show people some stickers and some window clings that you can put on your car. The light people know I'm going to need more space to get out of this car, Please don't park too closely. So we found we came up with some cute ideas, so we're going to launch that next weekend. I love it. So fun, Awesome, Great, catching up with you, yeah you too.

Speaker 2: 1:04:37

See you later, alligator, after a while, crocodile Bye. So where can you find your favorite fatties? You can find us at bigsexychatcom on all the social medias at bigsexychat on Twitter, big sexy chat, pod and Crystal. How can they reach us?

Speaker 1: 1:04:58

Oh, merck, the best way to reach us is by email, which is sexy at bigsexychatcom. Remember to like, subscribe and share, please.