This episode we embark on an invigorating discussion about the trials of technology, the liberation of releasing grudges, and the transformative power of gratitude. Our conversation with Adams Pritchard, one of the visionarys behind Impact Recovery, takes center stage as we explore his remarkable journey from the depths of addiction to the creation of a haven for healing. Adams's story is a beacon of hope, illuminating the importance of personalized care in addiction recovery and the profound impact of family involvement.
This episode offers an unvarnished look at the gritty reality of addiction and the often-overlooked struggle with untreated alcoholism and drug addiction. We hear a powerful account from a former mortgage loan originator whose life was upended by addiction, only to find redemption through a commitment to recovery. Together, we dissect the unique approach of Impact Recovery, where the steadfast principles of the 12 steps meet deep clinical work, and the game-changing Impactful Families program aligns loved ones with the recovery journey.
Their innovative work in Birmingham and Atlanta sets a new precedent in addiction treatment, focusing on individualized care and community-driven support. The positive response to their clinical services marks a departure from traditional methods, underscoring the importance of authenticity in the healing process. Join us as we revel in the gratitude of our guest's contributions and the unwavering support of our listeners, encouraging everyone to remain connected and empowered on their own paths to recovery.
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Therapy is a very important way to take care of your mental health. This can happen from the comfort of your own home or office. If you need therapy and want to get a discount on your first month of services please try Better Help.
This episode we embark on an invigorating discussion about the trials of technology, the liberation of releasing grudges, and the transformative power of gratitude. Our conversation with Adams Pritchard, one of the visionarys behind Impact Recovery, takes center stage as we explore his remarkable journey from the depths of addiction to the creation of a haven for healing. Adams's story is a beacon of hope, illuminating the importance of personalized care in addiction recovery and the profound impact of family involvement.
This episode offers an unvarnished look at the gritty reality of addiction and the often-overlooked struggle with untreated alcoholism and drug addiction. We hear a powerful account from a former mortgage loan originator whose life was upended by addiction, only to find redemption through a commitment to recovery. Together, we dissect the unique approach of Impact Recovery, where the steadfast principles of the 12 steps meet deep clinical work, and the game-changing Impactful Families program aligns loved ones with the recovery journey.
Their innovative work in Birmingham and Atlanta sets a new precedent in addiction treatment, focusing on individualized care and community-driven support. The positive response to their clinical services marks a departure from traditional methods, underscoring the importance of authenticity in the healing process. Join us as we revel in the gratitude of our guest's contributions and the unwavering support of our listeners, encouraging everyone to remain connected and empowered on their own paths to recovery.
Join us Every Thursday Night at 8:00 EST/5:00PST for a FREE family support group. Register at the following Link to get the zoom information sent to you: Family Support Meeting
Or you can visit or tell someone about our sponsor(s):
Intervention on Call is on online platform that allows families and support systems to get immediate coaching and direction from a professional interventionist to do their own intervention. For families who either don't need or can't afford a professionally led intervention, we can help.
Therapy is a very important way to take care of your mental health. This can happen from the comfort of your own home or office. If you need therapy and want to get a discount on your first month of services please try Better Help.
Follow the hosts on TikTok Matt: @mattbrowninterventionist Sam: @the.interventionist.sd
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Speaker 1:
If you don't mind, I will begin at the beginning.
Speaker 2:
Life too short, man. You don't want to hold no grudge. Man, I thought maybe you're going to let little bygones be bygones. Man, I couldn't believe that son of a bitch had the balls to say that.
Speaker 3:
Who are you?
Speaker 2:
I'm Jordan Rivers, and these here are the Soggy Bottom Boys out of Cottonelia.
Speaker 3:
Mississippi. We hear that you pay good money to sing into a can.
Speaker 1:
Welcome to the Party Wreckers podcast, hosted by professional interventionists Matt Brown and Sam Davis. This is a podcast for families or individuals with loved ones who are struggling with addiction or alcoholism and are reluctant to get the help that they need. We hope to educate and entertain you while removing the fear from the conversation. Stay with us and we'll get you through it, please welcome the party wreckers, matt Brown and Sam Davis.
Speaker 4:
Welcome back everyone. Welcome back, sam, and I are so glad you've joined us. Sam, how are you doing today?
Speaker 3:
Man, I'm pretty good in spite of myself, just went down and embraced the racket and the scam of buying a new cell phone, which is always pleasant, but you know, still got some gratitude, that on a Monday. I mean here it is on a Monday and this old crackhead has enough, you know ability to go down there and do that.
Speaker 4:
So I got to look at the gratitude and everything.
Speaker 3:
How are you doing?
Speaker 4:
It's so funny. We were talking about this a little bit before we started recording, but just about how there's a racket about iPhones. How often are you switching your iPhone out?
Speaker 3:
Every couple of years, and it's usually always the charging port. Charging port, get the wallet out and and then I'm wasting, you know, 10-15 minutes a night standing there in my underwear by my bed trying to get my phone to charge for the evening, you know have you gotten the new one yet?
Speaker 4:
did you get the new one today, the 15?
Speaker 3:
just ordered it. I'm out and you know the boonie, so they had to order it. It'll be here probably wednesday or th, but the one terabyte of, because all the video content I do and all of that I got to have it.
Speaker 4:
Well, they switched the charger on this new one. I don't know if you know that, but it's a USB-C charger now, so it's universal across pretty much everything. Apple doesn't have a proprietary charger anymore. Okay.
Speaker 3:
All right.
Speaker 4:
Hopefully that'll solve our problems. Okay, all right, but let's get back, sam. There was a couple of things from the last episode that I wanted to make sure that I hit on. The first one was you went and listened to Brene Brown speak, and this was your first time getting a chance to listen to her. I don't think you've read any of her books yet, have you?
Speaker 3:
an article here or there, but I haven't read a single solitary entire book of hers, but I'll tell you what I'm gonna, because it was a wonderful event. Yeah, it was very inspiring, all truth.
Speaker 3:
You could just see the sunlight of the spirit kind of circling around that woman man. She's helped a lot of people and she's had quite a journey. So it was good to be down in Houston, texas, and look, houston, not just Houston, but just Texas in general. Man, there you go to a networking event or something that they put on in the state of Texas.
Speaker 3:
I mean, it blows anything we're doing here in Virginia away. I mean seriously, they go all out with the, with the people that you know are attending and you know it's quite a thing the people that you know are attending and you know it's quite a thing.
Speaker 4:
Well, I think Texas has a pretty good hub of recovery, and we'll talk about their neighbors over in Alabama here in just a minute. But yeah, it's, texas is a hotspot for good recovery, I think.
Speaker 3:
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:
I think so. You know, that was where I was reborn, that's for sure. Well, speaking of Alabama, why don't you introduce our guest Sam? I know you were just out there visiting him and his program.
Speaker 3:
Yeah, man, there's this guy that we all know, Jaime, who's been around quite a while, and he reached out to me because I, like you, know good treatment, good quality treatment. I like the small mom and pop where the owner puts their blood, sweat and tears into this thing. You know it's going to be genuine, you know their heart's in it, where the owner knows each patient. That's good care to me. And look, they're providing quality care.
Speaker 3:
And he said look, man, you need to come down here to Birmingham, Alabama, and check out out Adam, Adam Pritchard, Adams Pritchard's, Adams, Adams Pritchard's place. Don't worry, Sam, I'll edit that out.
Speaker 4:
I'll edit that out, don't worry.
Speaker 3:
He's not, he's not going to edit it out, but it's. But uh, that's a tough one to say, man. He said, man, you got to come down here and see it. He said, man, they're doing some really cool stuff down here and it's right up your alley with what you like and so, man, you know.
Speaker 3:
Birmingham. I got to be honest, the last time I was in Birmingham before, just the other day, you know I was smoking crack. You know I'd gone through on my way to working offshore and you know, stopped at the gas station there in Birmingham and you know there was one of those fellas with the you know big rims and the tinted windows and the boom, boom, boom speakers and he was getting gas and I was getting gas and he nodded at me and I nodded at him and the next thing, you know, I was down in the hood of Birmingham smoking crack.
Speaker 4:
It was just the unspoken language of a drug deal.
Speaker 3:
Sure was man. I mean, like I didn't even finish filling up my truck before it was the deal was made, you know. And so you know that was a completely different experience than what I had this time. But I went down to Birmingham just last week, you know, this time, and saw Impact Recovery and it's owned by Adams Pritchard, and I said, man, we got to get you on. People need to hear about what you're doing and your heart behind this thing, because his heart's in it, like his heart is 110 percent in it, and we need more folks like him out here. And he's got a cool story too. So we're not going to make this all about, you know. You know endorsing treatment, or we're not going to do all of that. We're going to talk about the program, but we want to keep it interesting and hear about what's behind the program, what's behind Mr Adams, you know. So welcome everybody to Adams Pritchett.
Speaker 2:
Thanks Sam, thanks Matt. I've never done this before. It's a new, eye-opening experience. And thanks for everything you said, Sam. I enjoy getting connected to people like y'all that have the same beliefs and are on the same path, and I guess I can kind of tell you a little bit about my path and how God set the ball rolling for all this to happen. I really don't believe this place is mine. I think that God wanted this place here and he picked some dipshits to set it up for them. He picked Chad and I and Sarah to get that ball rolling. Anyway, I'm from Birmingham. I lived all over, but I'm from here and I went to. I was a you know, a hardcore alcoholic and drug addict. I went to treatment 17 different treatment centers, eight different states, and there were a lot of other detoxes and sober livings along the way.
Speaker 3:
What happened? What changed? What like? What was your experience like going to all these treatment centers? Like what would happen when you got out?
Speaker 2:
Yeah, I would go to these, you know, and I'm not, I'm not knocking them, but like the, the highest in you know best, I would believe, like the drugs and alcohol are the problem, if I can, just if I can just get off the sauce, I can go. I can go back and kick some ass, and every time I would, especially towards the end, I would believe that every time I go in there, and you know, they really would just take away my anesthetic to life, um, and I'd go back out into the world without a true solution and I would continue to fall on my face. And I was even doing aftercare stuff. I was going to sober livings and IOPs and I was getting sponsors and I was going to a bunch of meetings and really just what I experienced was mainstream treatment in middle of the road fellowships. I came to find that out later.
Speaker 4:
Let me ask you, adams, from the, how old were you when you went to your first treatment center and and the set you know, the 17th time later when you finally I assume that you stayed sober after that 17th time? How, how much time lapsed in between those two events, the first time you went to treatment and then the 17th time?
Speaker 2:
So it was about seven years, um going in and out of them. Um, I had my first drug overdose, and I was 17 years old and had some like not not inpatient interventions implemented at that time, but then I uh, you know, I made it. I made it. I graduated from college, uh, somehow started a career, um, where I was making enough money, where people left me alone before I really kind of started going back back down the road the in and out road, you know, but you know. So, eventually, what happened was I was, I guess, um, I kind of tell you two stories, okay, because I think this one kind of describes, like sets up for, what ended up happening. So I had never sought out treatment on my own Every time. It was more like you're pushed to go, and it was great stuff.
Speaker 2:
One time, though, I was living and working in Birmingham and I was doing I was actually a pretty good mortgage loan originator and, kind of, like I said before, the heat was off my back because I was making enough money. I was not doing well, but I wasn't asking anybody for shit, and they're like let's see if he could figure it out, this will work. So this one day I was driving in to my office over in the South side of downtown Birmingham and I'm coming up over the top of the mountain. It's this beautiful morning, the sun was coming up and I had this wave of emotions hit me that I had never experienced before in my life. I pulled over on the side of the road and I started bawling, crying, and I had this realization for the first time that I could not live with alcohol and drugs, but I also couldn't live without them.
Speaker 2:
And, um, I was like you know, I was thinking of all these people that I was close to in life and their trajectories were starting to look a lot different than mine and I was just kind of falling off a cliff. And so, you know, I had. I was like but man, I've tried that treatment shit, I've tried the recovery stuff. I've, I've been into the rooms and like that shit just did not work. Like what the fuck is? What's wrong with me? I don't know if I can say that on here, you can say whatever you like man.
Speaker 2:
Okay. So you know, I was like I'm going to go. I went. I mean, like this was so foreign. I went in to my office, I got plugged up with the HR people and I asked for for a leave of absence. I'd never done that before. I was like I got some mental health stuff. Man, I got to go take care of this. And they gave me some time. I went up somewhere to this really high-end bougie mind-body-spirit place. I'm not going to say where I don't want to, they're good people, it's just not, you know anyways. So I went up there, I did that, got separated.
Speaker 2:
After about 17 days they got me off the alcohol, the benzos, the cocaine and the heroin. And after about 17 days, physically I started feeling better. I started sleeping, I started eating, I started exercising, I started hitting on girls and I was like my body's coming back. But I couldn't figure out why I chose to go that time, wanted to get better. But all I could think about was going back to Birmingham and getting a fix. Like that is all I could think about. And I was like man, what? Where's the magic? You know what I mean? Like something's not right. So I listened to every single thing they told me to do when I left. I came back to Birmingham, I went to a sober living, I got a sponsor and I enrolled in this IOP and it's just all the mainstream stuff that's out there.
Speaker 2:
And in treatment and in the fellowships that I was experiencing, nobody showed me what really what alcoholism and drug addiction is, what was going on with me and how to recover. And so I was really confused because I was really really trying, like really trying that time, and it wasn't clicking. And the day came where it was time for me to go back to work. And I'll never forget I felt worse that morning driving back into the office than I did a little less than two months ago when I had my little meltdown. That was the catalyst for this attempt, and all I was experiencing was untreated alcoholism, untreated drug addiction. I didn't know what that was and I remember it was like I'm going through the door and I was so full of fear I was such an emotional train wreck I could not even I was having a hard time holding it together to run in to my cubicle to go sit down.
Speaker 2:
I had this whole team of people covering my origination pipeline while I was gone. All I had to do in theory to keep the money coming in was reach back out, make contact with all these people, and I get the. You know, I get the origination credit but like I was so in it, I couldn't send an email. I couldn't pick up the phone and call anybody. I couldn't send a text message. I didn't even want to get out of my cubicle and go go take a piss because I was like I cannot see or talk to anyone in this office. You know what I mean, and so that was. You know. Come to find out now.
Speaker 2:
I was in untreated alcoholism. I had no power. I was plugged up to no power and I couldn't do that. So I called my drug dealer, had him meet me across the street at the gas station and while I'm waiting on him I'm in a suit chugging a tall boy behind a dumpster and then I go get the drop, go in through the back door, snort a couple different colors of lines of powder, and I went and sit back down at my desk and, like in Bill's story, he's talking about something similar to this on page four, in the first full paragraph, when he's talking about October 1929, when hell broke loose in New York stock exchange and he was kind of in a dry state but he had some booze in his office and he drank it and like, while people are jumping out of the window, he's like man, that old fierce determination when came back I'm good, I'm gonna go make, I'm gonna go do some shit, make some money, I'm gonna be all right. And like that old fierce determination to win came back.
Speaker 2:
Second, I walked out of that bathroom after doing all that stuff. You know I sat back down in my. You know, matt, sam, how's life, you know how are the kids Like, you know, I've got to have Lyme disease. It was awful, but like, I'm back, let's go make some money. You know, so good to see y'all Like and so I was I was fixed in that moment and um, Well, let me, let me jump in here real quick.
Speaker 4:
Adams, listening to this, that are going to be able to see a lot of similarities between what you're describing and what's going on in their loved one. There's I'm sure there's families that are going to listen to this that have had their loved one in multiple programs. And when you say I just got out of treatment and I'm driving back and I'm suffering from untreated alcoholism, what does that mean? So families understand that, like you just finished treatment, how do you have untreated alcoholism?
Speaker 2:
So, you know, I, I, the drugs and alcohol were out of my system, right. So I have no sauce in my system, but I also hadn't yet been through a process to recover. So, you know, in that that's the most dangerous place for me to be, because I'm, you know, I'm having problems on personal relationships. I can't control my emotional nature. I'm afraid of misogynist oppression, I'm full of fucking fear. I feel kind of useless. I'm just super restless, irritable, discontent, just like. I can't do that Because in that state drugs and alcohol aren't the problem, they're the solution, right. So when I go back to them, that first time it fixes it. But then, of course, because this thing's progressive, like that, relief didn't last very long and the wheels fell off the train pretty quick, and you know, and it kept rolling until it didn't. And then I, I was intervened on, you know, and I ended up bouncing. I went to a couple of places in the bank I was working for. They were like, hey, look, we're opening up a branch out in Texas and we think it'd be great for you to go out there and like restart your, your life and your career. And I was like man, sign me up. Um, I was down in Florida. At that time I was like I'm telling me when to go, I'll be there, um, so I was. I was still on an FMLA leave, like still doing all the treatment stuff. I ended up out there. I even went to a sober living and stuff, but like I wasn't doing shit, nobody was showing me what to do. Um, and once again I'm doing stuff I think is going to fix this thing and I, uh, I started back working and I held it together out there for, uh, for almost a year. Um, and it was real dark, real fast got intervened on again and I ended up going to a different style of treatment than I had ever been to. Unfortunately, that place is not really. It's not really there anymore, but it was where, you know, I was able to get separated from the drugs and alcohol. And then you know, work, the authentic 12 steps, which to me was I had never been presented with that and you know, keep in mind I had had 11 different sponsors at that point and I'd probably been to 500 AA meetings and so I was able to to start that work, did not get that far into it, but got enough of a taste while doing, you know, some clinical stuff to where it. It fired me up and um and I sought that out, you know hard um leaving and it changed my life and um, as I. That was in 2015.
Speaker 2:
From from then on, I stayed really close to um a few people. One, you know who, who saved my life is you know it's life is my partner, chad Lynch. He was one of the main guys running that place at that time. As I was out there, I went back, I did some mortgage stuff. I stopped. I drove Jimmy John's delivered Uber for a little while, just trying and sponsoring a ton of people doing this stuff. God showed me what to do.
Speaker 2:
I worked in treatment for a little while and ended up coming back to Birmingham and threw in a men's. I made you know this. This opportunity was kind of there. You know, enough people saw this and they were like you should, you should open something up here. And I'd always kind of had that in mind and I had always kind of been talking to Chad about like hey, you know, and I had always kind of been talking to Chad about like hey, you know, this stuff, that stuff out there in Texas is great, but it has changed a lot since then it's still, if we're going to send people places besides us, we send them out there. But you know it's not the same as it was back then. So we were kind of like, you know, racking our head how can we do something and keep it pure, keep it small, keep the magic going and do it a little bit different? And that's what ended up happening.
Speaker 2:
Chad said you open it, I'll come, and he did, and we partnered up and you know, we opened this place where you know we've cleaned up enough of the BS that I've described to, where we've got this magic little bubble, that when these guys can come in here and they can, they can work all 12 steps, you know, this old school, authentic, uncut way and start to have an experience and have enough of a shift to wake up to be able to really do some, some deep, individualized clinical work. And doing those two things in conjunction, you know, really is just super effective. And the third thing that we've really kind of come a long way with in the last year is we've set up this program called Impactful Families so that the families can work out on 12 steps, get a bunch of coaching and some stuff with each client's therapist and specialist, bunch of coaching and some stuff with um, with each client's therapist and specialist, so they can get, get on the same path and get on the same same plane as their loved one, so that when they you know, when they leave, like the whole unit, they're ready to go plug and play and do this instead of figure it all out Um, and you know it's just um, I can't, I've, I've never seen or experienced anything like what's going on up there right now. You know, uh, 90% of our clients have been to other treatments before. They've, you know, they've, they've been exposed to some recovery stuff before. And they come in here and, um, you know, their mind is blown. They get excited about this stuff, they start to get some relief, they get fired up and they, they walk out, they walk out the door to go recreate their lives and they realize this is not a struggle. You're not always going to be recovering and I think it's a gift to have this gene to be an alcoholic or a drug addict, and most of them get to experience that calling too.
Speaker 2:
I think that we were wired to need power and once we plug up into it, there's just some really cool shit for us to go do, cause I just I don't think many of us should still be breathing.
Speaker 2:
You know, I really think and this is the way we all do over here Is it like? This is kind of like the bonus round, you know, and if we're we're really in that bonus round, living on borrowed time, it's because there's something for us all to go do, some kind of purpose. And if we can do this work and get plugged up with that, go out there and do it, you just you lose fear of everything and things change, and so you know, that's just kind of like that's what's going on in the residential phase. But you know, it's just it's our whole intent when we opened impact was to impact treatment and impact the fellowships at the same time, and I would say, like that's happening, but also the impact on the families is really starting to, you know, have a have a pretty strong ripple effect so that more people out there understand what, what this is, what the solution is, and then all the, all the problems that are out there right now.
Speaker 3:
It's not really rocket science, is it? It's really no rocket science is it.
Speaker 2:
I mean, they were doing this shit a hundred years ago and it worked. And then people, all we found out all this new shit, we're gonna do all this other stuff and fuck it all up, you know. And now everybody hates each other and they all want to argue and like, dude, we just we're not trying to make enemies, we just we're glad, we're glad there's all kinds of stuff out there, but we just want to want to help people and and and do some have fun at the same time. And I don't know anybody on our team that doesn't like, for the 95% time is waking up, like excited to go up there, cause there's just an energy. It's palpable, you know, you can feel it and it's it's fun, you know.
Speaker 2:
I think we're all doing what we're supposed to be doing and it's it's starting to transform and and we're, we're, we're growing a little, a little bit in some other ways. We're not like adding a ton of beds, we're just we've opened a transition phase in Birmingham, we're opening up a little transition in Atlanta and we're just going to have these small little pockets of enthusiasm and where they're supposed to be, they'll end up and, um, you know, uh, it's just, that's kind of I guess how many men can you, can you take care of at a time?
Speaker 2:
So we can take 14 in our residential phase and right now we have 12 in the transition phase in Birmingham, but we're about to add another 12 to that in Atlanta.
Speaker 4:
And it is men only right.
Speaker 2:
Right yeah, men only Okay.
Speaker 3:
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2:
Go ahead, Tim. Sorry Matt, no, you're good.
Speaker 3:
I didn't mean to jump in there, but I'll tell you what you, I'll tell you what. Sorry Matt, I didn't mean to everybody go to this group today and everybody do this you know, it's truly. I don't know if I've ever experienced truly individualized care, truly, and that is. It was like it was 14, well, I think it was. Was it 14 guys in there that day? I came?
Speaker 2:
14. And so there were the group you sat in on. Because that was a fun day for me, I got to go sit in one of Chad's groups I'm usually running one but uh, so there were four guys on step four, but that guy that the group we were sitting in on, he was on the sex inventory. The other guys were on just the third column of the um, of the regular traditional inventory. So there were two split groups in the fourth step. But that's just kind of how we operate, like, even in the same step you can have multiple, multiple groups, um, and it's, it's fun, man and our, we like it, they like it, um, it's not monotonous.
Speaker 3:
Now you're gonna get some old crusty folks who heard this and hear you talking about you know, know, step work group and things like that.
Speaker 4:
Oh he's selling AA.
Speaker 3:
He's selling 12 steps, but it's not. It's really not. You got clinicians there and they're all working together.
Speaker 2:
I mean we just, if there weren't so many problems out there in AA, you know, like maybe something like this wouldn't, wouldn't have the same thing.
Speaker 2:
But, um, you know, we're not, we're not affiliated with any 12 step fellowship.
Speaker 2:
We're just using the, the old school, you know original process with the treatment stuff, with with the individualized clinical care and with the family component, and putting it all in there together. Um, you know, I really kind of look at it back, like, you know, back and it's all over the doctor's opinion, like when these, when these guys saw that like they could get people separated, right, but, and then they could do all they wanted with the psychiatric and clinical stuff, but they were still having these issues until they saw that 12 step movement get born in front of their eyes and then they kind of, you know, pieced, itced it all together. We just, instead of having to do it all out there in the free world, we just, uh, sorry, we uh, instead of doing it out there piecemeal in the free world, we just put together this bubble where it's all there, you know, all inclusive, um, and you can do it with the, with the noise silenced, and have have an experience due to heavy lifting in there and then walk out and plug and play.
Speaker 4:
Well, and so many families that I know. Sam, you probably have this experience too, and, and Adams, I'm guessing you hear this, if you are talking to families on the front end, like they're so focused on, well, how often are they going to have individual therapy? How often do they get to see a therapist? And and I think that's missing the mark by by so much, especially on the individual front how often are they seeing a therapist with you guys?
Speaker 2:
So at least twice a week, but, but some of them more than that. And then the families are are seeing them too. But, like I was telling Sam this, I don't remember how it came up, but I get to speak a lot of places and I love it. And I was doing a talk at this treatment center and it's a good treatment center. I like the people there, they do good work.
Speaker 2:
And while I was waiting for the group to start, there were a couple of guys that were early, which was a shocker to me. But anyways, there was a new guy there and he said hey, what's the difference between a tech and a therapist? And he said the tech is the guy that shows you where to go to group and the therapist is the one that you meet once a week and go over your treatment plan. And I was just like my God. So the difference with what we're doing because we're not taking insurance is all that clinical work is like what, what's going on with you? You know it's not. They're not doing all that stuff that they have to do. You know like true, true, just clinical places which I'm not knocking, I know there's a lot of good ones and they say like I've gotten better clinical work here than anywhere else I've been before. It's just different.
Speaker 3:
You know Matt and I, you know we don't take insurance, we don't work with insurance. But you know he and I were doing some work at a program around their programming and training some people and it really blew me away that all of the documentation and the time wasted that is required by insurance companies in order for the facility to get paid. It's a huge waste of time of all the documentation and the note keeping. It takes hours a day from the clinician of actually doing the work and you know a lot of people are and you hear this, I'll say a lot of people you hear this quite a bit of. You know typical 30 day treatment insurance driven program is garbage. I mean really, you hear that right, I mean that's and for the most part it's true.
Speaker 3:
Yeah, it is. It's true. It's insurance driven right, so insurance is dictating what they do and what they can't do. And I don't care what the owner is, the owner could go in there with all the best intentions in the world, but you're going to do what that insurance company tells you to do in order for you to get paid, in order for them to keep their doors open, and you have chosen.
Speaker 3:
You said to hell with that. You're a good lord, you're a good rebel man, you're like out of hell with that. I'm not doing that. Everybody told us we were crazy.
Speaker 2:
But you know it, it worked and uh, it's working really well. But I don't know, and I'm sure I'm sure that there was chatter.
Speaker 3:
I'm sure before you opened the doors you heard a lot of chatter. And I'm sure that there was chatter. I'm sure before you opened the doors you heard a lot of chatter. And I'm sure that you did not hear a lot of chatter. That was actually going on right before you opened the doors, of people saying, well, that's never going to work, that's not going to work, they're not going to stay open, they're not going to stay open.
Speaker 2:
It's just noise and what we really try to work like. If you just don't identify with the noise, you can continue to get carried with whatever it is we're supposed to do and then identify with the noise. It's just a waste of time and energy and you know everybody falls in that every once in a while, but just not enough time for that.
Speaker 3:
There you go, there you go. Background noise.
Speaker 4:
Yeah, yeah, it can be with what you guys are doing with family, cause I don't want to neglect that, I want to. I want to get into that a little bit before we wrap up with what you're doing with families when you're so you're taking them through the Al-Anon step work.
Speaker 2:
Right. So we have, we have three masters level therapists that are actually all in Al-Anon, and so we kept brainstorming this way because I mean, y'all know this too just how there's problems in our fellowships, there's a lot of problems in Al-Anon. A lot of people you go in there all they do is talk about their qualifier. There's nobody in there working the steps, and so we kept sending people to all these Al-Anon groups and they're like I feel, worse, not better. So we set up this little deal we have five Al-Anon groups at a time, like five Al-Anon groups a week. There's four for the families that have loved ones in there and one for alumni, and they get to work the Al-Anon 12 steps. In these small groups we have one of our.
Speaker 2:
For most of them, one of our staff member gets on there and breaks down the step from our side for a second, and then you know our, uh, our three magical women do their thing, and then you know it rolls and they use, um, they use, uh, some good Al-Anon workbooks along with that and they, they do the stuff, um and uh.
Speaker 2:
You know, it's just. I I didn't think it was possible and it was a lot when we were kind of tweaking it out, but for really, since about September, october of 2023, it kind of clicked and now you know they've got a system and it works. So the families do that. And then they have a weekly like kind of it's more of a coaching call with each client's recovery specialist, where they're really giving them, you know, coaching, guidance and insight into all this stuff which they're doing so that they get it more too. And then the third thing is each, each client's therapist kind of like, with the weekly update calls or whatever you want to call them, they're kind of more given like homework for the families to start doing so after their loved one does their fifth step. They can do either, you know, an in-person or virtual family session.
Speaker 3:
Um, you, know you said that about the al-anon. Um, and nothing against that. Look, my mama went to al-anon and you know I'm here today. My mama went to Al-Anon, and you know I'm here today, because it drove her to get some more work done. And then, you know, my days of addiction were numbered when she entered the doors of that. But I did an intervention yesterday and the family was sitting around afterwards and she's like you know, I really want some more support for myself.
Speaker 4:
She's I really don't know. She said I went to.
Speaker 3:
Al-Anon. She said, but it just seemed really I was very confused. She said I was very confused, it didn't, I didn't hear anything about a solution. I didn't. It was just. It was really. It felt really off. She said and then I went to y'all's, which was IOC's family support group, on Thursday night. She said my daughter and I went to that and she said it was totally different. And I'm like, yeah, I mean because we're going to keep it in the solution, like you don't need a group to sit around and talk about the problem. You know I can go down to the donut shop down here and talk about the problem. You know I can do that any time of day. But this was is about solution, that I can do that any time of day, but this is about solution.
Speaker 4:
That's awesome.
Speaker 3:
It sounds like that's what y'all got going on with that.
Speaker 4:
What do you do, Adams? What do you do if a family isn't willing to engage in their own recovery while their loved one's with you?
Speaker 2:
It happens. It happens about 10% of the time, about 10% of the time, and so we try to do more with them in those calls than we would somebody else. And you know, thank God that. You know we can get well regardless of another person. And that's just some people's journey, you know, thank God, because those people can, can help the ones that that, um, you know are similar to them. They would have a different experience than somebody's family being all in. I mean, I, I have two parents, you know, thank God. They're amazing, Um, but like my mom does this stuff, my dad doesn't, doesn't matter. You know what I mean.
Speaker 4:
It's just how it is Well. Adams Pritchard, thank you so much for being our guest today. For those of you that are interested in finding out more about Adams's program, can you give us your website?
Speaker 2:
Yeah, it's impactrecoverycenternet. If you just Google us and it'll pop up.
Speaker 4:
I'll put it in the show notes as well. If families want to go there, there'll be a link that they can click on through and reach out to you guys if they feel like you're the right spot for their loved one.
Speaker 2:
Thank you all for having me. I enjoyed it.
Speaker 4:
You bet. Thanks for being here. We'll see you again soon.
Speaker 3:
Yeah, thanks for being on here, man Love. Yeah, thanks for being on here, man love seeing you again.
Speaker 1:
Y'all have a good one. Thanks again for listening to the Party Wreckers. If you liked what you heard, please leave us a rating and a review. This helps us get the word out to more people, to learn more or to ask us a question we can answer in a future episode. Please visit us at PartyWreckerscom and remember don't enable addiction ever. On behalf of the Party Wreckers, matt Brown and Sam Davis. Let's talk again soon.