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All Tricks, No Treats
All Tricks, No Treats #28 Flirting 101
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Ding Dong! Ever wonder what it's like to transform your home into the neighborhood's Halloween "fun house?" That's exactly what we accomplished this year, and boy, do we have some stories to share about this spooky extravaganza! From the joy of seeing trick-or-treaters' wide-eyed amazement to the stress of last-minute candy runs, you'll get a frank, heartfelt recount of our Halloween adventure.
Next up, we put on our parent hats to talk about the struggles of raising kids in an age-conscious society. We grapple with the concept of aging while navigating the tricky waters of report cards and how, as parents, we need to honor our children's unique abilities and learning pace. But don't worry, it's not all serious. We have a laugh at our own expense as we confess our lackluster flirting skills. From flirting with security guards to misreading signals. Maybe you can relate to our flirting foibles or even pick up some tips...definitely not some tips haha!
Lastly, we tackle the contentious issue of tipping in the service industry - a divisive topic that has more angles than a geometry textbook. We dissect our views on tipping, sharing some eyebrow-raising experiences and controversial opinions on whether servers are indeed deserving of those coveted hefty tips. And to wrap things up, we extend an open invitation to our listeners to join us in future episodes - yes, that means you! Join us for a chat, a drink, and if needed, a comfy couch to crash on. We guarantee an atmosphere filled with laughter, heartfelt stories, and thought-provoking discussions. Don't miss it!
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00:00:03 Halloween Madness in Our Neighborhood
00:04:00 Birthday, Report Cards, Parenting Struggles
00:13:09 Flirting and Lack of Flirting Skills
00:16:55 Flirting Styles and Misreading Signals
00:31:36 Flirting With Shallow Deal Breakers
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This is a disaster. Welcome back to All Tricks, no treats, the number one podcast for relationship advice, kids advice, life advice. That's all I got.
Speaker 2Advice advice.
Speaker 1Yeah, when we talk about everyday things. But yeah, we're back for another episode.
Speaker 2Yay, so it's hasn't been too long of a break. It's been a few weeks, but not you know nothing big. So we just have a few things to catch up on. Halloween pass by.
Speaker 1Yeah, it did, and in our town it's a big deal. We've been coming here for quite a while to trick or treat and there's like a bunch of people. But I wanted our house to be the fun house and it's still under construction, our house, so we don't have any lighting, so I had to go buy a big spotlight from Home Depot. But one thing that I thought would attract the kids was this cornhole game where if you make it, you get a full size bar. We had a shitload of candy like 1200 pieces of candy and then the big size bars.
Speaker 1Yeah, we bought like five boxes of King size bars at Costco. But if you made it you get two shots, and if you make one you get a King size bar, and if you miss you still get candy anyway. But it was fun when we trick or treat as tourists quote unquote but it was very stressful. Being one of the houses now Living here and doing it, our house would get swarmed, and we didn't even dress up after all I was so like, I was like flustered and trying to get everything ready, like we had a fire pit in the front.
Speaker 1We sinned our fake grass or if we have some patchy artificial grass, that I just threw a fucking fire pit on top. I was so like running around like a chicken with its head cut off, and we lit the fire and in the next morning you fucking burn ass grass, we have a sing spot in our backyard Dude. It was crazy, but our house was like the house.
Speaker 2It was fun and my favorite thing is, you know, we heard one person say oh man, everyone's been saying that this is the house, which is what you know. It's what we wanted. So and we talked about it and I said, you know, we'll learn from it. Now we know next year, like, what to do and not do too.
Speaker 1And the kids had fun and we had fun, so that's it, Dude, coming from Whittier where we used to live, I think one year we got like three or four.
Speaker 2No, we even talked to our friends and our friends back in Whittier were like I didn't get any people or I got like two kids.
Speaker 1Yeah, which is sad. We had six to 700 kids come through.
Speaker 2And also if it tells you about, like, where we live. We have. All the houses around here are really old, so there's like a main street and they are pretty big houses. One house was a Barbie house and they painted the whole front of their house hot pink. So I think that just says something about how Halloween is very like taken seriously around here?
Speaker 1It's, it's not. The house next to that house had like four Mars attack characters that are at Spirit Halloween and they're like how much? $400 each or something. And I remember they put them up and we're like oh no, we're like holy shit, and we had a fire bit we had us in a. Milwaukee spotlight from home.
Speaker 2But one guy did say he was. He was like, oh man, I like the look of this house, this house is cool, Like look at that, Look at this, Like you know. And I looked at him and I was like, hey, the cool thing is that we didn't even try man and he was like, he was like. No, I mean, I just want my house to look like this one day.
Speaker 1Our house is naturally spooky.
Speaker 2I think it's just us.
Speaker 1But anyway, halloween was a success stressful success.
Speaker 2Yeah, let's cheers to our first Halloween.
Speaker 1Yeah we're in our house. We've been waiting for that day. Cheers.
Speaker 2We made it to the 700 kids and parents. They played too.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, Holy shit.
Birthday, Report Cards, Parenting Struggles
Speaker 2Okay, um, something else that happened was my birthday. My birthday happened, I turned 21 guys. Chinese way Hell.
Speaker 1We're old farts.
Speaker 2Actually, no, you're only as old as you feel, and I don't feel like I feel fucking like I'm going to die.
Speaker 1I feel old.
Speaker 2I don't feel old so 33 is.
Speaker 133 is really not bad.
Speaker 2It's not, you're still young, you're established, you're young.
Speaker 1That's the new 15, I think because, like old, people that are like maybe 18.
Speaker 2Yeah, 15. It's not getting hot water there, buddy.
Speaker 1But I feel like 50, 60 year olds now are dude going harder than me.
Speaker 2I just saw this video. I wish I screenshotted her, but it was this lady and she has like sleeves and she dresses so cool, like has the best style, and I was reading the comments of people like you make me feel like I'm not afraid to grow old anymore. Oh, that's a nice thing to say, and it was so. And she was like yeah, like she's like celebrating growing old and still being like your authentic self, and I thought that was super cool. And so, yeah, you're only as old as you feel. Like who says you have to dress a certain way because there's a certain age? Or like feel a certain way.
Speaker 2So you know it was my birthday and we celebrated by going to Hibachi, because that's a tradition, since I was like for four yeah. And then my friends and I went to the cauldron in Anaheim. If you love the spoopy stuff, they've got like it's very dark in there. They have spider webs, they have candlelight, they have a book case. So if you like the type of stuff, I truly recommend the cold. And they gave me a free shot because it was my birthday. And we got the best table by the actual cauldron.
Speaker 1Damn.
Speaker 2Yeah, spoopy life. So that was really cool, my friends to take me there. Yeah, it was fun.
Speaker 1Cool.
Speaker 2Yeah, and then something else that happened actually today is the kids got their report cards from their school.
Speaker 1Who would have thought I was getting report cards for our kids?
Speaker 2What I do like is actually at the last school that Champ went to, the report cards were sent home electronically, but here they're sent home in their folders.
Speaker 1I don't know why, but I feel like this year is really like. It's like a legit report card. Last year was online and I was like, okay, okay, but this year was like here's your. I remember I would get my report card and hide that shit in the mail. In the mail, yeah, I'd hide that shit in fucking holy shit, and F and a D in fucking art.
Speaker 2Your parents would be like why are you by the front door? You'd be like I just want some fresh air, I'm just cooling off.
Speaker 1And thinking back now, it's like that work was probably so easy it probably was we.
Speaker 2just we're kids, didn't want to put the effort in.
Speaker 1I saw this documentary. It's like a documentary series on Netflix and the coach is a football coach and a bunch of the kids are like failing stupid classes and a guy's failing art. And he's like art, you're failing fucking art. And then there's a silence and he's like draw a fucking picture, man.
Speaker 2I'm like dude.
Speaker 1that's true, it's like fucking add up some numbers and pass the class. I failed shit too, but it's funny how he said it, because he's just like draw. It's not really just drawing a picture, but it's like it might be that easy, you know, to pass a class.
Speaker 2Yeah, a little bit effort goes a long way.
Speaker 1When you're young, you're dumb and idiots, but it was fucking hilarious. I draw a fucking picture.
Speaker 2I was crying and said like I can't, I can't, he was a big ass fucking football player.
Speaker 1He was an old kid, but that was hilarious.
Speaker 2Well, I do want to share something that they sent home with the kids with their report cards. So it just says as you read through the report card, please remember that all children do not learn to walk and talk at the same age, nor do they learn math and reading at the same rate. As we continue to set goals for the school year, please remember to keep an open mind. Our children need to be challenged, but not pushed beyond their abilities. They need to taste success and still need time to smell the flowers while they are a child. We know your children as they are in school. You know your child as they are at home. The real them may be somewhere in between. When these two images are blended with sufficient understanding, acceptance and love, we hope you all see a unique individual who can make you proud and bring you much happiness.
Speaker 1That was sweet.
Speaker 2And that was very. I really like that, actually, because as a parent, you just want your kids to, you know, be successful and thrive as much as they can, and sometimes it just you know, you forget, yeah, and the little humans.
Speaker 1The first time you read it in the room I was kind of like what the heck? Because school is for them, obviously, but in a way it is for you too, because they learn so much, champ Bubby. And when they come back you're like holy shit, you see them one way, but you don't see them like learning all this shit and growing as kids. But the way it's worded is like puts it in perspective, like it is a blend.
Speaker 1They might like be different when they're not around you you know, so when I read that I was like holy shit, that's when I read that I actually teared up a little bit.
Speaker 2I thought that was super sweet that they thought to send that home, just as like a little reminder. Because you know, as parents or even as people who were students, when we got our report cards we kind of take it personal, like, oh, I didn't get this grade, what did I do wrong? Or as a parent, oh, you didn't do that, well, what's going on? Like, what am I doing wrong as a parent? So it was very nice to read that and just you know, have a little reminder. Are little humans are humans.
Speaker 1For sure.
Speaker 2Okay, last thing, just wanted to add a little something else. I had a nice conversation with the mom at Bubby's class, yes. So I went to pick her up and of course I had a Nucky with me. So Nucky likes to just stop and throw things in the street, likes to fall, likes to just not want to walk anymore. So I was running a little behind and she was as well, and I've seen her before. She's got, she's going to pick up a son, has another son with her, and then she wears a little girl, a little baby girl, on her chest and a little baby carrier. So she was running late with me and then so we were walking back from picking up our kids and I turned to her and I said I remember those days wearing them, having one next to me, you know, having three when I used to go pick up champ.
Speaker 2I used to wear Nucky on my chest and be holding Bubby's hands, and she was like, oh yeah, it's a lot. And I was like, oh, you know, like you could tell, she was very like exasperated and she was like it's a lot.
Speaker 2I feel like, you know, I'm just kind of, I feel like I'm always yelling, I feel like I'm always frustrated like this and like she was just all of a sudden just started like venting and I told her I was like that's okay. And I said it's okay, I promise you. I said I feel like I'm the same way. There's a lot of parents that feel like they're the same way. And I said I promise you, though, it does like it gets easier. And I said look, I said him. And I pointed to Nucky. I said that was him and I was the one that I was always wearing. And I said I remember getting like very flustered, trying to put the baby thing on to carry him and trying to make sure Bubby wasn't running off. And she was like oh, my gosh, that's so good to hear. And she even was like thank you, thank you so much. And I didn't, I barely even said anything.
Speaker 2I just like kind of heard around and talked to her and I think it's just like a little reminder, like you know, just everyone once in a while you see a parent, just kind of you know we're all in this together, so just kind of talk to them, give them fucking kudos. Yeah.
Speaker 1It probably made her feel good that, oh, it gets better, you know.
Speaker 2Yeah, and I just wanted to let her know that it's normal Like hey, I remember doing that rushing and stuff.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's a mom connection right there.
Speaker 2Yeah. And so now when I see her, she's like hi, yeah.
Speaker 1That's nice Cool.
Speaker 2Yeah, so that's, that was it for our catch up.
Speaker 1That was a good catch up, nice.
Speaker 2Okay, now it's our topic.
Speaker 1Let's hit it.
Speaker 2How you doing.
Speaker 1Is that a hint to the topic?
Speaker 2Yeah, Do I sound like Wendy Williams, or do I sound like Joey?
Speaker 1I think you have to do this to sound like it, like that oh. What's that Too sassy.
Speaker 2Wow, that was done really well. Oh no, skip, skip. Oh wow, you sound more like Wendy Williams. Our topic today is flirting.
Speaker 1Flirting baby. Flirting 101.
Speaker 2Okay.
Speaker 1Hmm.
Flirting and Lack of Flirting Skills
Speaker 2Hmm, so our definition from Oxford languages is to behave as though attracted or trying to attract someone, but for amusement rather than with serious intentions, which I don't know if I can agree with that, because some people do flirt for serious intentions.
Speaker 1Yeah, I think me trying to flirt now is like that old man in the, not that I would flirt.
Speaker 2Yeah, who are you trying to? What do you mean If I were?
Speaker 1to flirt, I'd be. I'd be that old man in that commercial with the dolly hooked on the rod. Where are you going? The guy with the rod is just. You almost got it.
Speaker 2What did you say? Got to try a little harder, or something. You got to try that harder, harder than that.
Speaker 1That's kind of my flirting awkward and how would you, how would you? Oh my God.
Speaker 2See, we can't even like pretend.
Speaker 1Pretend, you just said it, but when I flirt, not when I flirt I meant if I would flirt, if I was a single gentleman, it'd be like the, the doll, whatever. Really, you ruined it. I didn't want to do this anymore.
Speaker 2Fishing old man. I thought this was for fun.
Speaker 1We're supposed to be a fun, fun Cause, you know don't even know what you're saying anymore.
Speaker 2Okay, um, I don't know how to flirt. You don't I don't, I don't know how to flirt. I don't know anything about flirting. I don't and I've told you this before and I think I've said this before too Like I think there had been times back then when I was single, when people have tried to flirt with me or like ask me out and I didn't understand what was going on and I was just like oh, and I just like walked away because I'm I don't, I don't get it.
Speaker 1You were a flirt. You fucking liar.
Speaker 2With you. I hope it just with me.
Speaker 1You fucking whore. We did some flirting. That's the flirting.
Speaker 2That's why I'm flirting now, Guys we did some flirting before. Yeah.
Speaker 1Do you remember?
Speaker 2any A flirting.
Speaker 1No, but 11 years ago.
Speaker 2I remember.
Speaker 1I don't really know if we flirted.
Speaker 2I don't really know.
Speaker 1Oh my God, I think we just like no, we didn't flirt. We just like knew we were into each other. I think, did you know it was into you? You had to have known.
Speaker 2I did not know you, I never reached out to you for your number. I never knew you were into me.
Speaker 1Yeah, right.
Speaker 2And I don't know you're into me. You're so question every day. You like me, I remember.
Speaker 1I think we just like, were texting after I reached out to you on Facebook and then we never flirted. That's crazy.
Speaker 2We sexted, oh wow, she's the kind of people we are.
Speaker 1We went from talking just to sexting. We didn't even flirt.
Speaker 2To babies. And here we are, but yeah, so we asked some polls. Okay, our fans, all our fans, how would you rate your flirting skills? 38% said send me into a room and I'll get anyone. Damn, I'm proud of you guys. Jesus Christ, I'm proud of them. 46% said I can start a combo but it ends there, yeah. 15% said help me.
Speaker 1I think I'd be in the 15%. I'm in the 15% for sure.
Flirting Styles and Misreading Signals
Speaker 2Next one is can you tell if someone is flirting with you? 71% duh, then it's game on 29%. No, I'm still asking for help. And the last thing is to send us your flirting stories. Best pickup lines any of those? We actually got a few Currently flirting with the security guards. Slash COs at work. Stay posted LOL.
Speaker 1What's up? Fucking dirty whore.
Speaker 2Is that a guy or girl? I don't know.
Speaker 1Man whore. What's a man whore?
Speaker 2Yeah, Let us know, keep us updated. Next one is do you know how much a sea lion weighs? Just enough to break the ice.
Speaker 1Damn, that's a good one that's a fat-eyed sea lion.
Speaker 2None of the ice is thin. You want thin ice. You know who you look like. My next boyfriend, that's a good one. A sly, you sly dog.
Speaker 1That's like a silly flare, which is good. I like that.
Speaker 2That makes him laugh. Yeah, last one Me. Are you single or married Her? I'm single Me. Oh man, I can't take that ride.
Speaker 1The home you want, fucking married women only oh wow, you a dog, you a dog A sea lion dog. So you hear all these stories now that teachers like hook up with fucking high school kids. Obviously a bunch of guys are like fuck. If that was me I wouldn't say shit, because you know how they all tell and then eventually it comes out because they can't keep their fucking mouth shut. I had this art teacher in high school. She was a babe and she had a husband who was this gigantic ass foo.
Speaker 2Like just a big guy yeah.
Speaker 1And she even, like, showed me him before and I was just like cool, cool and she would like do things. She would always be touching me and all this, doing all this crazy shit. And then I'm like damn, this girl fucking wants me to paint her a picture. You know, she was our teacher and I was like this little scared, innocent kid and I never fucking did anything. But I knew for a fact she was flirting with me and I never did nothing and I regret it.
Speaker 2Oh darn Okay. So the five flirty styles. Wait, is that not a good story?
Speaker 1I mean, for Was that a good story?
Speaker 2For flirting.
Speaker 1Don't act like you didn't want to flirt with your fucking swim teacher.
Speaker 2I would have loved to what's his name? Call him out. What's his name? No, what's his name.
Speaker 1Bolin Hi class of 2008. Bolin Not just her, I know for a fact a lot of girls would talk about your ass, bro.
Speaker 2Oh, that's because they still talk about him.
Speaker 1Like an old ass. Wow, see how I don't get mad, like when she doesn't. She can go swim. Go swim with Bolin, I don't care Police what.
Speaker 2You don't get mad.
Speaker 1Go swim with Bolin.
Speaker 2You make jokes and I make the same exact joke and you get mad at me.
Speaker 1I'm laughing Anyway.
Speaker 2Okay, okay Okay, there's different flirting styles.
Speaker 1That's right.
Speaker 2Five of them, so they are physical which is, you know, using physical confidence, touching each other, physical attraction to flirt. They generally have an easier time signaling their attraction, obviously because it's more tangible. Traditional, which is a traditional courtship, which is where you kind of wait for the man to do, you know, to do the where he goes after you. The next is sincere, where you show emotional connection and sincere interest and people tend to develop intimacy early on in relationships. You can do this by eliciting self-disclosure, providing social support and showing like a genuine interest in each other. Mm-hmm, okay, um, it's generally a romantic but not necessarily a sexual manner, so it's like more like Playful. Yeah, well, there actually is a hold on. There's polite, where you're cautious, you're not too forward and you're following like proper manners. You tend to avoid behaviors that could be potentially construed by others as aggressive or trying too hard or need you know. And the last one is playful, which is having fun, boosting each other's self-esteem, flirting in a way that's more lighthearted.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2Okay, which one are you?
Speaker 1I'd be the that one. Playful, yeah, the more playful, like picking on you kind of.
Speaker 2Oh, I thought I would be playful too. I feel like you would be more physical or traditional.
Speaker 1Maybe traditional but more playful. You know, it would be easier if girls cause I know a lot of girls wait for guys to kind of hit on them. But I think girls flirting the physical way would show guys that, oh damn, she's into me.
Speaker 2So you want, you think guys would like girls to be more like touchy-feely, More forward because touchy-feely is more like holy shit, she's like she's into me, yeah.
Speaker 1So take notes, girls, try to guys you're into, and then they'll know that they're into you. You get me.
Speaker 2I agree with that. I think it is better to like show someone physically, to even just like a hand on the knee or just like a or the arm when you're talking.
Speaker 1Yeah, something.
Speaker 2Or to be like oh, you're so silly, just like, tap your shoulder a little bit.
Speaker 1Jesus, don't fucking slap me, brush your shoulder off.
Speaker 2Thanks, dave Dantroff, but no, yeah, I think. Yeah, it's hard, though, especially if you're coming from a perspective of not just a female, but perspective of someone who is. Some people are shy. It's hard for them, they're shy.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2You know they can't come out of their shell. It's hard to talk to someone.
Speaker 1So, you know, Playful is the way to go.
Speaker 2I think, I think playful is the best one.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 2You could just have fun together. Yeah, you know talk, make jokes, nice Okay, and that's why I have flirting or friendly because it's easy to misread signals 100%. Even just like a smile now, like some of those times where you know you smile as a person and someone reads into it too much and they're like oh hey, so can I get your number?
Speaker 1then You're like oh, I heard this somewhere, but I told a couple of my friends this Don't mistake kindness for likeness. That's like a big thing because, like you said, a girl could smile at you or like be really nice to you, and you're like, oh my God, she's like.
Speaker 2She's into me.
Speaker 1Like people fucking could be nice. You know, like even guys, you can open the door for someone if you're I don't know anywhere, or be nice to a girl. You're not necessarily into them, you're just being like a gentleman, you know. But some people always mistake it for like, oh, they're into me and it's like dude, that's like normal shit you should be doing.
Speaker 2No, yeah, even as a girl, there's times where you just even like you, say thank you or like smile at someone. I feel like now, you know, a lot of times girls talk about having resting bitch face and it's because you smile at someone. You just say thank you, you know, you, you know, just acknowledge someone in like a friendly manner and then all of a sudden it's oh, hey, oh, and you're getting hit on.
Speaker 1I could see that. When you don't want to Sure, I could see that too.
Speaker 2So it's. You know it's hard to read signals.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2So here are some ways that you could distinguish being flirty versus friendly.
Speaker 1Let's hear them.
Speaker 2Making prolonged eye contact.
Speaker 1That's a fucking good one. If you're into someone and they're into you, you guys will eye fuck each other.
Speaker 2Oh, dude, you're like I do. Oh, you've, you've, you've prolonged the eye contact.
Speaker 1No, but I know it's real. You know, dude, the eye contact is like. I seen this video, too, of this guy who was making like a YouTube video or something and this girl walked by him and she wasn't even part of the video and they like looked at each other Aw cute. And then he just looked at the camera and then he was. He made like face like what the heck? And then she walked by like with their friends and then she turned back around and he turned around and he's like fuck, I'm going to go talk to her. And he went, he got it. Yeah, I just saw that like a couple weeks ago. But eye contact is like a dude. That's a gnarly thing.
Speaker 2Yeah, I think if you keep like, even if you're at different like places or settings in a room, if you keep looking at each other keep like telling, kind of telling each other like hey, I see you.
Speaker 1I'm here. That's cute. Yeah, I think that's a great like starting point, I guess.
Speaker 2Nice, yeah. Next one is make physical contact touching an arm, tapping each other. Next one is ask more in depth questions.
Speaker 1Whoa.
Speaker 2So if you're talking to them, obviously no, like little things you know, want to get to know them, yeah. The next one is detect romance in the air. So your environment, like read into your environment.
Speaker 1Read the room.
Speaker 2Are you on a walk with a bunch of friends or are you secluded in like a little corner talking to each other?
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2Or are they equally giving attention, the same amount of attention they're giving you to? You know the people that they're talking to the next to them. Yeah, okay. The last one is tilting their head, so I was kind of confused by this one.
Speaker 1I am confused.
Speaker 2In a study published in the Journal of Sex Research, researchers used a facial action coding system to detect the kinds of faces people pull while flirting. The coding showed the most effective flirting cues include a head turned to one side and tilted down slightly. So a head turned to one side, tilted down slightly and a slight smile oh gollar, feel creepy and eyes turned toward the implied target. Hold on, let me turn to you, ha.
Speaker 1Ha, is this working? I feel like we both have white blood. I feel like I have fucking cerebral palsy White blood. I feel like you're saying Bounce palsy.
Speaker 2I feel like we have cerebral palsy, cerebral palsy, oh no, hey, mouse palsy.
Speaker 1Hey, how's it going? Oh no, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2No, don't do that.
Speaker 1Okay, no offense, but.
Speaker 2Okay, so to one side, tilted down slightly.
Speaker 1I feel like hey, buddy.
Speaker 2I feel like I turned into a mattress or something I can't even move.
Speaker 1I'd sleep on you. Is that flirting? I'll take it.
Speaker 2Oh, no, yeah, so if you see that kind of facial structure they're flirting with?
Speaker 1you, they like you. Either they like you or they need you to call 911.
Speaker 2I'm a mid stroke, oh, no, oh no. Okay.
Speaker 1Don't listen to fucking Harvard or whoever that was.
Speaker 2The Journal of Sex Research, the people who know things the best.
Speaker 1Oh my God, my face hurts.
Speaker 2Okay, so next thing is tips on flirting.
Speaker 1Cerebral.
Speaker 2How to flirt the best. So no bended snap. What's that? Do you remember that from Elle Woods?
Speaker 1No.
Speaker 2Legally blonde. She does where you. She's like oh, I dropped something on the floor and I bend down to pick it up and I snap back up and she's like that and now I think about it kind of looks like a little dog, like it's hanging on its hind legs no bended snap. That doesn't work. Don't do that. No, don't do that. Okay, so actually get into a conversation and get past a small talk. Like you really need to learn about them. Like who likes small talk?
Speaker 1I mean, I think if you're first talking to someone, so I think once you pass the small talk and you're into more deeper conversation and not like deep, like fucking I don't know, my dad left my family or something Like more you have stuff in common. Cause once you have stuff in common, the conversation could go like super easy, easy going, you know. And then you're just like damn, this person's cool, or like they like to do what I like, or they've done what I like and I think you're into second date, or you're into like being open to hanging out with them more.
Speaker 2Yeah, I think once you delve into that deeper connection other than like so you like hot Cheetos.
Speaker 1Yeah, nothing like stupid.
Speaker 2Yeah, I think once you go a little bit deeper than that and you get to find out that you guys have more of a connection, then it works better.
Speaker 1Yeah, but I mean small talk is necessary, right, like everyone knows. Small talk is there just to kind of break the ice and not make things weird Like a sea lion. Yeah, but then the more you're what.
Speaker 2That was from the tip that the-.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, but once it gets a little more deeper than that, then it's better yeah.
Speaker 2Nice, okay. Next one is remember flirting is not about you. Don't talk about yourself too much. Don't always immediately turn a conversation back to yourself. You want to learn about them. People you know inherently kind of do like talking about themselves or interests. So if you can keep a conversation going much longer, you usually can if you're talking more about them. Yeah, Like you know people like to talk about what they like usually, so you also get a lot of more details about themselves that you can relate to or talk about.
Speaker 1I think it's important, especially for guys, to not talk about yourself so much, give like little detail as possible, because it keeps it kind of like mysterious in a way.
Speaker 2An air of mystery. Yeah, who is he? Yeah, like they want to.
Speaker 1Keep talking to your get to know you. Second dates for yep 100% no.
Speaker 2I remember that, like I remember like guys like just be like oh, what about this about you? What about this about you like, oh, you like, I see you're wearing these shoes.
Speaker 1You like those yeah you don't want to show your fucking hand before the draw. You know, I Just made that up. I don't that's real.
Speaker 2Oh, I went along with it, so it works.
Speaker 1Be mysterious.
Speaker 2Next one is playfully tease.
Speaker 1That's mine, that mine is like playfully tease, like into bullying. Sometimes I take it too far. I'm just like, I just like to play around with you, yeah.
Speaker 2I'm in the corner crying. Sometimes, Okay, this is just a creative thing, but you know, look for opportunities. You know, but don't be mean or rude, you know and. But obviously if you're also teasing them like kind of include yourself in it, like like pick on yourself. Yeah, that works a lot like yeah, picking.
Speaker 1That's. A great tip is to not only like jab at them, but like yeah, throw yourself in the mix.
Speaker 2Yeah, like even if you're talking to them and they're kind of like not into you, like I'm sorry, I'm so I'm, I'm bad at flirting. I'm not good at this, like even just saying something like humble, show your humble yeah for sure you don't want to be too cocky.
Speaker 1No like that, but no, some girls like that no.
Speaker 2I have not met one girl that likes a cocky guy.
Speaker 1I'll cocky. You don't want to be cocky, confident a little bit, but you want to kind of Like I said it's not playing the dumb card, but it's like pick on yourself so they know you're kind of down on earth and you're like a cool dude.
Speaker 2Well, that's different. That's different. That's like humbling yourself versus being cocky. Yeah girls will a hundred percent choose the man who was humble over the man who was cocky.
Speaker 1That's a bold statement though.
Speaker 2It is and I stand by it. We'll see with a lot of girls.
Speaker 1Maybe, maybe not.
Speaker 2The last thing is to just be sincere. People can detect when you're being fake, when you're just trying to. You know, talk to them for one thing only If you're not really into them, if, when you're trying to talk to them, your eyes are looking somewhere else.
Speaker 1Yeah, don't be fake. That's just fucking lame, because why are you there? Why don't? Don't? I'll beat you up. Probably fake people fucking grind my gears, man.
Speaker 2Okay.
Speaker 1Took a doctor.
Speaker 2Now we're in the corner crying again. Fuck everybody.
Speaker 1Don't be fake. If you're not into them, don't even give like that sucks when you're kind of like going along with it and you're not really even into them.
Speaker 2And then oh yeah, being fake. Well, let's make that like a little point. Like, if you're not into the flirting, what do you do?
Speaker 1You know you're not into them, but don't be an asshole about it. Just like. Kind of like, let the conversation kind of slowly die, don't keep it going. You know like let it naturally kind of end and then you just go on your way or whatever.
Speaker 2But I think that's kind of hard, though, because there are people who keep the conversation going like for themselves, like I can know, like, oh, I think they like me, like they keep talking over and over yeah what would you do? I think it's just. It just comes down to like a Like, a Statement of no, thank you, or like really.
Speaker 2Yeah, like that's straightforward if someone's trying to flirt with you if someone, if someone's trying to flirt with you and you're not into it, then you just kind of be like oh yeah, ha ha. Like laugh at what they're saying, but be like I'm sorry, I have to go. Like yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah, something like that. Don't say like no, I think that's kind of killing. The conversation is like oh yeah, I have to go, or Just saying, oh no, thank you.
Speaker 2Well, no, not just when they come up saying no, thank you, just being. If they're talking to you, then be like oh yeah, no, I'm sorry I have to. You know, go over here, my friend's calling me your. Okay, last thing if you're texting Cuz you flirt when you're texting- that's so much easier, I think do you I? These are what I read. Use emojis.
Speaker 1I'm not a big emoji guy.
Speaker 2I'm not either but it's it said. Using emoji says that you're putting more effort into the conversation other than just typing things out.
Speaker 1Like you know, I Don't even think it's necessarily emojis or typing things out. I think it's how fast you get a response, because obviously if you're Into someone you're gonna make time to text them quick. We've talked about this before.
Speaker 2That's what I have.
Speaker 1Yeah, so it's not just about emojis or whatever. You're gonna fucking Responding the cute way, I guess I don't know.
Speaker 2Yeah, I'm the cute way as an emoji with a hard eyes or an emoji with you know the egg-pond emoji Very cute with some with a peach a peach. I was gonna say a peach. I just fruits and vegetables and.
Speaker 1I just saw Joe Coy in In. Brooklyn, new York but he's a comedian and he talked about that. Like my kid doesn't know what the fuck they're doing in life, like they don't they. They text people with fucking egg-planned emojis with shit squirting out of it. But that's what I thought of when we talked about emojis eggplanned, because he fucking said that in one of his jokes. Oh, I was hilarious, but I guess that's the way the kids for nowadays is egg-planned emojis with fucking the splash, the little splash sign on some peaches.
Speaker 2Hey, they're not a day five, five, five fruits a day veggies a day, get your servants and kids.
Speaker 1Shack, do that commercial. He'd say five fruits a day.
Speaker 2Yeah, I remember.
Speaker 1And then they say don't do that, because you get diabetes.
Speaker 2Oh, just text your fruits just text your fruits.
Speaker 1You won't get the sugars you won every couple days will be good.
Speaker 2Yeah, and the last one I had is what you said match their text, speed and frequency. So, whatever they're doing, match it, and I've talked to friends too before and they've said that too, like oh, he's taking this song, while I guess I'm gonna take this one.
Speaker 1I don't seem too eager if they're taking like quite a bit of time. Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2Okay.
Speaker 1So, next is our man oh shit, I almost had a hot gas.
Speaker 2Oh, you almost sang the wrong thing. What's?
Speaker 1that man? Let's hear it.
Speaker 2Our ask, men, is what is the most shallowest deal breaker that you hold secretly? I'm not secret about it, but those dragon talon nails so gross the feet of the hands Probably both.
Speaker 1Yeah, the feet fucking. Oh, that's disgusting. Keep those fucking things tailored, baby.
Speaker 2No tailored talons tailored. This weird knees. You can be a straight dime, but if your knees are weird then I'm out you have Not weird knees, but you have like very, oh, because you're skinny.
Speaker 1So your knees are like. We'll be talking about your knees, Don't? Your knees are like.
Speaker 2I've never heard you say knees.
Speaker 1I like putting on your knees. Don't say anything about my knees. I love your knees. I like her.
Speaker 2How loud they chew food. Yeah, it's pretty gnarly if your entire personality revolves around a specific thing, such as working out or coffee, or tattoos, etc. I need someone a little more well well rounded.
Speaker 1I think those are all pretty good, like oh, that's annoying.
Speaker 2What was a girl in a Love is blind, where she made Puerto Rico? Oh my god, puerto Rico is right, puerto Rico was her thing where she I'm loud, I'm Puerto Rican, which it's fine. You're from Puerto Rico, that's fine. But everything was I'm a Puerto Rican, oh, I'm from Puerto Rico.
Speaker 1Oh well, puerto Rican people, you know listen, I'm Puerto Rican and I think I've told like four people in Puerto Rican.
Speaker 2So, yeah, I don't fucking. That's not like a cool thing to flex about not just where you're from, but like don't keep saying it, yeah, it was fucking annoying. Yeah.
Speaker 1Fucker oh yeah, she's the worst. Oh, she's the worst.
Speaker 2Okay if they scrape their cutlery against the plates when they eat, or if they bite the cutlery when they eat. I can't stand that noise one bit. Someone said Audi belly buttons. Can't believe. Nobody said it yet.
Speaker 1What's that's natural? I know people can't help that. Yeah, you bitch.
Speaker 2No.
Speaker 1I don't like that one. Yeah, I don't like that one either.
Speaker 2Okay, last is our. Oh no, where are you going?
Speaker 1Okay, okay, ready.
Speaker 2Do me off. I threw it, you threw yourself off that belly button guy did a nasal nasal inflection. You Sound like a boat docking. I like GOT.
Speaker 1I, oh man, that was nice. Okay, let's hear the hot guys.
Speaker 2It's our hot goss. We only have one today. There's a picture of tips going viral. You know how they flip it. They flip it and expect they'd look it with one eye to make sure you fucking did 20% Well they look at you with one eye and they pretend they're not looking at you. They have their other eye, go the other way. Okay, it went viral because there was an option. You know there's 10%, 15%, 20%. There was one option that was 100%. That's fucking wild.
Speaker 1That is fucking wild.
Speaker 2And I think it was like a $37,. We'll have to look for it a tab, but the tip was 37,. Whatever, it was 100% tip.
Speaker 1That is insane. I know servers bitch about their tips like that's what they live off of. But my thing is and I'm not trying to be a dick I tip, even though I sometimes don't want to. I'll tip whatever. But if you don't like what your wage is cause they say my wage is fucking $3.50 a fucking hour get another fucking job, bro, don't. I think these servers shouldn't expect a tip. It's like Mr Pink said if she doesn't serve me seven fucking coffees, I'm not giving her a tip. That's not what I'm saying. But, dude, if you give good service, sure here's a couple bucks. Go buy a fucking water after work. You know you've been walking. Oh no, you've been walking around in those fucking platforms for eight hours.
Speaker 2Platforms. Where are you going to eat?
Tipping in the Service Industry Debate
Speaker 1Hooters? I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Whatever shoes they wear, I don't care. People expect like a hefty tip, like for every customer, and you're not deserving of one, straight up. If you're a server, you're not deserving of one. If you give excellent service, you get a little something, sure, but you're not getting 30, 40% tip. Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2I think there's a difference between tipping a Waitress or a waiter who, someone who is running food back and forth, doing like way more versus someone who is Literally just turning around grabbing food and be like oh well, tip me. Yeah because there are places where you go like I don't know, like when we go to those, like I went today.
Speaker 1I went today to get my son some fruit and I said can I get this little thing of fruit?
Speaker 2They're like yeah, $3 was a cup, a plastic cup, with fruit.
Speaker 1She's yeah, yeah so she said, okay, got it from a little fridge like that, put it in front of me, turn the thing. And it said what tip, bitch? You're getting zero tip.
Speaker 2You're not doing anything. Okay, see, that's where I agree.
Speaker 1If you are not like, if you're just turning and doing something, that's fine if you didn't fucking go to the fields and plant that shit yourself, you're not getting a fucking tip, fuck that.
Speaker 2But if you are someone who is running back and forth Fielding, I want warm, I want more ranch, I'm asking for more drinks, I'm then you get a tip, because that's service, they're serving you.
Speaker 1And that's the thing too, like it's, it's weird, because that's what they signed up for. Like you, if I go and get a server job For minimum wage, oh, I'm expecting tips from every customer. Like.
Speaker 2But shouldn't.
Speaker 1That's what you're getting the job for you should fucking just Get. Make sure you get your hourly wage. That's it. Why are you expecting a tip from okay?
Speaker 2But there are places, though, like I had a cut, my cousin he was working in I forgot what state he was working in and there were places that when you're working there, your wage is considerably lower because they know you're working for tips. So since they know you're working for tips, they're paying less and you're working for those tips. That's why you have to work for those tips, to get those tips. So his his wage to live was made off of tips.
Speaker 1I think you just get another job, then you shouldn't be a server. Okay, but he did and then that's his fault. That's not anybody else. Did they fucking hold gun in his head and say be a fucking server?
Speaker 2No, but if that's a job that you can find at that point in time, then you get that.
Speaker 1I mean, I guess so. But there's people who bust their ass to go to their favorite restaurant or want to eat a good meal where they can't tip. They could just afford their meal. And then there's service who say well, if you can't tip, then you shouldn't come eat here.
Speaker 2That shit fucking pisses me right off, like yeah, I don't think anyone, I don't think anyone should say that yeah, they do.
Speaker 1They do, though. I Went to this fucking brewery in Santa Rosa when the bartender, or whoever she was, was, like I was having this great conversation with this couple. They ordered like a $60 bill and they didn't leave me a tip. I wanted to be like who cares? You're really like letting that upset you that they didn't leave you a fucking $5 tip. Like Dude, I don't know.
Speaker 2I don't know, maybe it was a long hard day for, and I don't give a shit, I don't care.
Speaker 1You're fucking pulling a fucking tap to fill up a beer. How hard can it be? You're talking to people. I Don't know. Tipping is fucking yeah.
Speaker 2I feel like tippings become a very hot topic these days.
Speaker 1Let me make this clear.
Speaker 2There's a finger up Wow, I.
Speaker 1Tip now pretty decent only because of me I do. I'm doing better in my life, I'm making a little bit more money, so I tip just because I'm not an asshole, you know. But If I was working my two full-time jobs and my two part-time jobs that I did for fucking five years I Wouldn't tip as much. Or if it was shitty service, I would tip zero, like I Don't know. Don't come at me with that bullshit, fuck that.
Speaker 2Okay, well, I just went to Starbucks and I got some hot chocolates for the kids because it was our first rainy day in a long time, so we made a little hot chocolate run and I went up to pay and the guy was super nice and he was like, okay, your total is blah, blah, blah. And I pulled my car. He was like okay, card. And he turned the thing and he immediately I saw him he pushed zero like he, he did no tip for himself and then he turned it around. That's the homie. And yeah, so I could pay did you tip?
Speaker 1I did see, yeah, put zero and people will fucking tip your ass. Yeah, that's a little trick. We went to fucking. We did a road trip from Seattle back down to California and there was a place. Where was it? In Portland or?
Speaker 2Seattle the brewery. It was a brewery.
Speaker 1It was one of those fucking weirdo states where we went to a brewery and I mean the kids had a little play section, like we bought a fly. There was some barbecue. I wanted to leave a couple bucks. You know Like, oh, dude, go buy a fucking, buy yourself a beer. You know there was a sign there and even the guy told me oh, we don't accept tips. There was a sign there that said tips come from. It's gonna sound so crazy when I say it, but it's real. What did it say? Tip for connected to slavery. Somehow Tips are sexist, somehow.
Speaker 2Okay, you can't like. If you don't know, that's what it says, don't add that.
Speaker 1But it says it. It said it. I'm gonna post it now. I'm not saying this. They said this. The reason they had this sign out was because the sign also said we pay our employees well, Way more.
Speaker 2I think they were starting at like $30. $30.
Speaker 1$25 or $30.
Speaker 2Yeah, way more than you know the basic.
Speaker 1Yeah, so they try to include, I guess, the tips in another hourly wage because they don't stand for tipping, because it's connected to sexism and racism and all this weirdo shit they did. I promise you I'm not lying. I know for a fact. It says that, so I'm gonna post the picture. That's the only thing I agree with Seattle Is they don't tip there. Actually, that fucking breakfast spot was good, what's it called? Biscuit bitch, Biscuit bitch dude, keep doing your thing, my favorite thing is when we went to biscuit bitch.
Speaker 2We all ordered there's five of us so we got a few, a few amount of biscuits and they handed you the bag and they were like you got a hefty bag of bitches here hold two hands. And they say Chris bitch, didn't they say that or something? No I would have slapped them. Oh, please, you would have danced over there.
Speaker 1That place was delicious. It was so good, the sauce and everything. We all loved it. Yeah, anyway.
Speaker 2That's it.
Speaker 1Yeah, don't expect to tip if you're a server.
Speaker 2I was gonna say tip us, tip us, we have.
Speaker 1I think I created a buy me coffee thing and you did, but I scratched it out and said beer, like for Bud Ice. And not one of our million listeners has bought us a beer.
Speaker 2Wait, where can you find that? Where is that?
Speaker 1On our fucking description in our YouTube.
Speaker 2Really it says buy us beer, buy us a Bud Ice. Yeah, spend $5, get us two beers man $5.
Speaker 1You hear the dog barking in the background.
Speaker 2He wants you to buy us a beer.
Speaker 1Anyway, anyway, thank you for tuning in again. I was happy recording today.
Speaker 2Oh, I'm glad it's fun, right, yep, and we promise actually we've been talking a lot. Now that our garage is done, we wanna have a guest very, very soon. It's not just us.
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Speaker 2Well, well, well Well.
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