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Oppenheimer: A Movie for All Seasons
On this episode we discuss Christopher Nolan's Oppenheimer.
But before that we discuss the passing of Michael Gambon and our trip to Hollywood to see Oppenheimer in IMAX 70mm at the TCL Chinese Theater.
And to get us started we enjoyed a bottle of De Fermo's "Concrete" Rosato. This was a surprising wine - a biodynamic Rosato of 100% Montepulciano. The wine if from the Abruzzo region in Italy. Visit your local wine shop and see if they have it, or ask if they can order it.
Enjoy!
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Sanskrit. Yeah. Get in. Didn't didn't do English. Well, they're English. Not so good.
I bet it sounded different. Back in those times, maybe more lyrical than the.
Listening love languages, yeah.
Came out Dumbledore himself, Michael Gambon, Dumbledore 2.
They always happen in threes, they say, right?
Ohh a young 82. Huh. He was pretty spry.
Well, yeah, because he was a wizard.
That he's gonna come back to life even stronger.
Maybe. Maybe. Well, he didn't in the books or the movie.
Hi, Devin. And I'm thinking of Gandalf, yeah. He came back white.
Bearded Wizards, easy to be confused.
Yeah, I think their faces look the same too.
Yeah, we can't tell him to the beer, but they like that old British man, yeah.
Shaggy phrase and big nose. Right. What's his name? The other guy? Ian McKellen.
You have to be to be a. Wizard. That's power.
I guess you gotta have a booming voice.
Read like one or two of the books. Did you draw on a?
Did you draw on a a lightning bolt scar on your forehead? No.
Yeah, only the kids could really act in. The first few.
Dumb decision to. Keep it going and it's like it's not realistic.
Oh, there's a fantasy novel, right? That's. That true?
Part of it I've seen other fantasy novels that weren't so like eye rolling eye roll inducing.
I don't know. No, cause the adults are just as dumb. Have you read or seen the book or read?
Even though I had just gone through it. Like not that long ago.
Oh, so you know the chronology.
Do we know the? Cause of death?
Yeah. Did Voldemort come back and?
You know, expel your on me or whatever.
Ask a ban Arkham. Ask a. Ban. That's pretty close. Is, I think she stole it. But they're.
It's not a, it's not an asylum.
Mostly parties. Pottery stolen anyway, right. Like the Jesus story turned into Wizards.
It's it's not like Stephanie Meyer, where she had a weird dream about vampires.
Is some kind of savior? Yeah. Kind of time.
It's gotta be someone else who wanted to save the.
Not anymore. I don't want to save the earth. He was saving souls or whatever.
Blue background. Flew backwards around the earth to turn back.
They may have both done it. Ohh that was Superman, yeah.
Flash in the comic books. Anyway, has also run back.
Have to turn back. Time. Yeah, man. Ezra Miller could what you could.
Goes so fast, uh? It would actually do.
Late for the invasion? Exactly.
I'll be the place to protect us, like, oh, man. We're too late. For the battle, let's just go home.
There's a backwards running man's. Got it.
Are you on his train and you're looking out the window? Right the the how time is.
I forgot the rest. Of it, I just remember you. On a train for some reason.
Like the bands you, you're going to.
Meet. Yeah. Oh, that one. Yeah. Yeah. Not not the.
Virginia's the one and only. Yeah. Ohh yeah mid.
The one to Georgia midnight train.
It's a chain reaction of time.
One regular one in the format as intended. We did a field trip.
As intended. Yeah. We went. Yeah, we can talk about our beautiful.
Beautiful visit to beautiful Hollywood.
Uh yeah. Hollywood's just a weird part of town.
It always has been. Yeah. It's not that they. Make it out to.
Yeah. Ohh. When it was first made.
And then maybe in the 60s it was OK, I think the.
Late, yeah, yeah. But they weren't. On the Boulevard, they were dressed up like Iron Man.
Ohh that no no no they. Not doing that.
Yeah, I was. I was chilling at the mall. For a little.
Ohh yeah, you walked for some reason and 90 degree heat.
For a little bit, yeah, that was close enough. It was under 2 miles. Could do this.
Right in the mid afternoon. Fun. No, it was the movie was at.
It I think so, yeah, late morning.
There was the marine layer hadn't burned off.
You had to have left by like the peak heat at 1:00.
Well, I need some time to cool off so.
Of the set pieces got just moved and. Turned into decor I don't have.
Those things survives. Ohh yeah.
They got rid of all that nonsense.
Yes, nothing. Now it's even worse than before than to throwing an arc. There's an arch, I mean and.
Then arch and arch. Ohh no, that was always there. But they got rid of all.
Carvings are that we supposed to be in it, so that thing's there and it's just this.
Right, yeah. Now is his dumb lit arch Dumber? Ovation doesn't ovate about well. I would not stand.
I think they got rid of a lot of the stores and they transferred that over into office space.
That some of them. Yeah, I think on the upper levels, so there's.
Are people actually renting it?
There's less mall, I don't know.
No, I. Oh, I think so. The CPK, the the fancy bowling place. Lucky star.
Victoria's Secret that's still there.
There. And he wasn't in LA before it. Wasn't like matsuhisa.
Right, right. Like there's zero type.
Yeah, yeah. Uh-huh. But I'm not sure if. He's still there or not, OK. Did you happen upon him?
I did not. I did not see any sushi a a man pressing rice.
Did you happen to master? Delicately hidden.
Yeah, yeah. You're seeing that that zero dreams.
So even though Jiro dreams of it, the kids are is there nightmare? His dreams are nightmare.
And yeah, I sat there a while, caught my breath, cooled down. Took in some tourists, see.
Right. Of the sign. Yeah, 100 years already. Huh. Of hollywoodland?
Yeah, Hollywood, 100 years of.
Hollywood land, the first major realtor push to advertisement. Yeah.
Good guy, good guy, misunderstood.
Michael Bublé of the place. They need a little more bubble in.
Hollywood, like bass blasting through this.
We got into that that man's Chinese. Yes. And beautiful theater snack. Bar kind of.
Average. Yeah, needs some juice. Some juice to this and don't hide. The bar. Up in the corner.
Orthostatic in theme with the rest of. It it's just like.
Yeah. And then the bar should be central feature.
I happened upon it by accident.
It's practically like a downstairs with the bathrooms.
I don't think it's as Sir is not united.
Would be noted or I don't even know what. The knight. Is the graduation. Right. Oh, that's.
Why he could be a commander of something or other.
Ohh yeah, Master and Commander of cinema. Scorsese not, said he.
The Saffie brothers. I didn't even know they made movies. So that one of them is in movies.
Uncut gems, right? And then? Good boy.
The the, the, the. The karate movie.
So actively. Yeah, he's too busy.
Right, yeah. Why not? Why not, Greta?
Just been hanging out with you on.
Tinseltown. Yeah, we we honor. Sir Nolan's wish.
Yeah, we can't just review it and not as intended format. Yeah, gotta be. Right. It's accurate.
A regular theater. It was an IMAX, but it wasn't 70 millimeter and.
It at the time it was, it was hard to get tickets oftentimes.
Yes, it was. When it first came out, yeah.
South Bay, right. It's almost like those.
Yes. Well, Alamitos, he's down there in long.
It was over. Yeah. Like how how to see it. Where to see it? What?
It was ridiculous. No other movie that I can remember came out in so many formats.
Wasn't right. Tenant probably did.
Two, everything he's doing now is like shots in IMAX.
Right. The whole movie, not just like a a sequence or a. Scene or whatever, yeah.
Right, right. Big cells, I wish maybe they.
Around. Oh, they're gigantic. Yeah, yeah.
Especially this film, right? You do the whole thing. We had to.
Have and. Wait a couple of days and ohh to develop, yeah.
To do the the I forgot. They call them the. Dailies or whatever, right? Make sure you're on track.
I mean, seems like the guy who'd be shooting on film anyway.
Whether it's necessary for him, I don't.
This one? Sure. I'll give them that. I don't know some of. The other ones.
Like Britney Spears, Christopher Nolan, he still believes.
He's not a girl. Not yet a woman.
As straws, straws and Florence Pugh.
Not and then. Cavalcade of of guest stars.
I like literally everybody who's still alive.
Michael Gambon. He was. In it.
Yeah, I wouldn't be sitting in the back somewhere. You got a safe.
Very safe. The dude that didn't know was him.
Well, him. Yeah, Josh Peck. Uh, But the his the other scientist guy who I didn't know was.
Josh Hartnett. I had no idea that.
It looked amazing. I did not think that was. I didn't realize it was him.
Who else is in it? I guess those are the the main ones we.
Yeah, every pretty much, yeah. Tons of other cameos or whatever.
Get get to them as as they Jason Clark.
It's a it's a known. Guy, I think it's like a. He's dead, so that would be difficult.
They should use. Footage from that movie he made with Meg Ryan, where you played Einstein.
Ohh yeah, relativity some of that. And what's his name within it's.
They also could have used Paul Giamatti, given his recent Verizon commercial work.
Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, that would have.
Alright, maybe at least Ian McKellen? He could have been a good any.
Some real synergy. He's too tall.
The magic of movies. Angles right made the.
Angles force perspective. Yeah, exactly. Apple boxes.
They could have dug a hole in. The ground, yeah, yeah. Put him on.
Who soon some call the father of the atomic bomb.
Three men in a bomb. Because it was at least Teller who was just as seemingly as instrumental.
Who went on to create his hydrogen bomb Saffy.
Ohh OK yeah, yeah, yeah. You're talking Penn and Teller. I don't think Darren.
They really took. Their magic in a different direction looks destructive path.
Even Heisenberg was a bit of a fate.
Yeah, I. Right. Well, global efforts, sure, they all.
All the the shared sciences. With an origin of fatherhood.
Gave their contribution right, sometimes secretively to this.
Love child, love childhood destruction as scientists do.
With young Oppenheimer studying in England.
Because he was interested in theory.
Right now, so much the practical.
Well, here's the way that I here are my notes.
Question and all of a sudden he's like. Highly regarded and that's.
Seven years later, eight years later.
I think it just it's roughly less than 10 I think yeah, or 10 because it was like from 45 to 54.
OK remember thing in my head. Ohh just like the.
Basically, yeah. For a routine routine clearance, really.
He well, he was like. Four things. He was always like all over the place.
And then his security clearance. Hearing interrogation type thing was also.
And having a say in atomic policy really.
Yeah. And in the 60s, he's redeemed a little bit.
A little bit, yeah, he gave. Him a. Well, they were like well.
The cut between it so it gives you a.
Well, yeah. Wife, was it ever. Wife. I always forget because he had all these affairs and.
Stuff like that, it's hard to.
Keep track of those women or in love with the genius.
Apparently cause that was one of the charges, they said of him, right, womanizer.
Like, who was he in history like? Who was he?
Of the names and story, the plot.
Pretty good feat. Yeah, I don't think I ever felt like a a board.
3rd which I don't get, but maybe that's just a different. Pacer thing. You know what I mean cause.
I was gonna. Bring that up, yeah.
Yeah. Well, it's apparently between him and Gosling.
Of the Sorkin, so it it lost a little steam on that.
Dialogue heavy, yeah. Idea cerebral.
Books life, yeah. I don't think it's. He's going to do IP again, I don't know.
And maybe it made him super famous.
Yeah, but maybe just like got him to be the biggest director and then it's like, OK, cool.
Pretty much at. Almost all the Nolan movies interesting. Score Ludwig goransson.
Was yes. Yeah. And there's there's so much.
It was in Nolan just being like this is the Nolan show.
IMAX, where every details will. Be found, yeah.
You can't just have any Tom, **** or.
I think they were saying that some of the stuff just wasn't very contrasty and it was.
2nd viewing. Yeah, your second, my third.
You're third. We have to watch it.
Get half another. But yeah, so alright, let's go into some of the. The meat of the movie.
And we don't know where you stand. You don't even.
And it leaves him a little squirmy and a little. Yes, evasive.
But now I'm curious, like when you mentioned that because.
But he also felt guilt because otherwise it did seem like he was. Doing you know.
Like when it when the ego of doing it.
Well, yeah, there's a lot of visual styling and then if you think of.
Movie hot, too? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, right.
Yeah, sure. This is not your average. Yeah.
Whole different or walk the line or array or. You know, there's music biopics.
Could have been been a Dewey costume.
Doctor Strangelove could have gone that.
Route I'm cutting back. I'm cutting down pretty bad, dude.
You don't want to. Tell her. Tell her. Tell him.
Alright, yeah. What do you think of the the performances?
Well, that was in truth, that was history. He just killed her in the mine. But.
Alive. Right, like interstellar. There was the the his daughter and the Prestige.
Hugh Jackman was haunted by the death of.
Like haunted. His psyche. It was his wife who committed suicide.
Who was that? Ohh, that's right. Yeah, yeah.
Memento Trinity. Well, she was in it. She just. Was around but like the whole reason he was.
John G raped and murdered my wife.
That's right. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
So there's always. A woman at the center of a man's.
Like, Oh my God. Have to take her of my child.
Yeah, but yeah, because she was not your your typical. A stay at home wife.
Right. She was also of note herself, yes.
And Florence Pugh is a psychiatrist.
It's like it's like probably a psychoanalyst at that time, yeah.
So they both had professional degrees, and then each one of them.
But it still fell under his spell. Steely eyed spell.
One line for each of them about what they. Did outside of.
Life while he's having sex with Florence.
OK. Yeah. Knows that's tough 800 page.
They should do a battle of the biographies was the.
Oh, the the teddy Roosevelt the three parter.
Or the power broker the is it Robert Carroll? The geography of Robert Moses?
Ohh yeah yeah yeah yeah. I had another good one. Yeah, but uh, yeah, what else we got?
11 That's what I got. Whoever that wrap.
Her up? Ohh, just about some of the. Side stuff. What did you think of?
It. Yeah, the fact that they didn't show. The actual Japanese bombings.
I enjoyed that. I don't. Enjoy it I I thought.
See millions of people or thousands of people die.
That was the the right choice.
I think it was an interesting choice and I think maybe in.
His ultimate. Whatever holding of nuclear bombs.
But this was his pure. Art movie, you know.
Know well they have those awkward scenes where people's that woman's face was.
Right when Oppenheimer's like having his whatever. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah. Delusions or what? It was like. That's yeah. Yeah.
I respect this land so much, right? Came here as a child.
Child. And then I bummed the **** out of it with nuclear bomb.
I will give. It back right to.
The in the much worse condition.
The good people of the southwest.
Yeah, that really grounded my gears.
You weren't really grinds my gears.
Right. It's not part of now. Now it's in active shooters.
Right, right. Right, we're going to.
Maybe. I mean, would we have made it first?
Not sure what Rami Malik was doing in the movie, but.
Yeah, I was the only ones I really enjoyed was almost the unexpected ones. The Josh Harnett and the.
Krumholtz krumholtz. Yeah, yeah.
You thought he should have been Oppenheimer? No.
Everything you you wanted to know about the topic bomb, but we're so sorry to ask.
The the Saffy brothers have explained it. Yeah. Alrighty till next.