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Weird Stuff Coaches Do: Part 2
We pick up where we left of in Part 1 and continue down the list of weird things coaches do.
Discover how gongs, singing bowls, and other instruments play the symphony of relaxation and restoration. Hear about our own encounter with breathwork and how it's transformational.
We share the calming art of colouring mandalas and explore how dance can be a powerful form of emotional and physical expression and release.
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Hey Ryan.
Speaker 2:Well, Anna, what's happening?
Speaker 1:I guess what I did on Friday.
Speaker 2:I guess what you did on Friday you danced the night away.
Speaker 1:No, I did not dance the night away, but I did go for a float. I went for a float.
Speaker 2:A float, well, well, well.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:About that, just like we were talking about last week. Yeah, Number five on last week's list, floating spending time in a sensory deprivation tank. Were you deprived of sensory information?
Speaker 1:I was, and it was such an interesting experience. The things that I was kind of afraid of are nothing to be afraid of, obviously, but it was such a relaxing experience and something I will definitely do again, and if anyone's listening and has contemplated doing a float or thought about it or is maybe just hearing about it for the first time, I highly recommend it. I would say it was probably one of the most relaxing experiences I've had, doing something like that outside of having a massage or something.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You just leave feeling, so I felt like I'd had a 12-hour sleep.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. So I still haven't done mine, still haven't used my certificate, but now I have slightly more motivation because now you've done it and I haven't done it. I'm a little jealous.
Speaker 1:A little bit, and it was cool because one of our listeners, misha she was working at the float place that I went to. So this is just a shout out, hi, misha, because I know you're listening.
Speaker 2:Hi Misha.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it was kind of cool. I went for a float and met somebody that I kind of know through social media.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and Was there anything about it that was really surprising or shocking or blew your mind?
Speaker 1:I don't know if really surprising. I mean, it was really helpful watching the Getting Started video. When you book, there's a little five-minute YouTube video to watch. So I watched that so you know what to expect. And then Misha walked me through the experience as well to just make the whole experience really good, and I find having those tips and having had the walkthrough made the experience a lot more enjoyable. One thing that was really interesting, though, I must say, is you would think that your whole body would relax when you're floating right. Yeah, and my whole body relaxed, except for my head, like I couldn't relax my neck, and so Misha had told me to put my hands behind my head, to just like cradle my head, and that naturally, my muscles would then relax and then my arms would float away, which is what happened. But had she not told me that, I don't know if I would have been able to stay in there for the whole hour because my neck was so uncomfortable for the first couple of minutes.
Speaker 2:Oh OK, so that's a private thing. I didn't know that was going to be a thing. Yeah, that's kind of cool.
Speaker 1:But I did relax. And another really cool thing too was like then I was like, ok, wow, I'm really relaxed floating here. And then I just I asked my body to like relax even more. And then my I hold like a lot of tension in my hips and then my whole like lower half of my body just like relaxed 10 times more and I was like, ok, now I'm floating yeah. So it's really interesting how your body responds.
Speaker 2:I want this deep exotic relaxation that you're describing. I'm into that.
Speaker 1:So I'd like to go back because I feel like we were talking about this before we got on the recording. But you know, I think the next time I'll be less focused on am I doing the experience correctly and I'll be able to just kind of like surrender into the meditation of it all.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Next time. But this was kind of just like getting to getting to understand it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I mean, I guess it's probably, probably is like one of those things where the first time you do it it's just sort of orienting to the experience and then the next time you do it, you know you, there's no need to reorient, you can just focus on the actual yeah Experience more easily. Cool, all right. So I'll have to do one and then we can we can revisit the topic and compare experiences. Yeah, cool, shall we get back into part two of the list of stuff coaches like.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let's jump back into it. I think we were at number 10. Were we? Yeah, number 10.
Speaker 2:We're on number 10 now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so this one is raw or specialized diets, so consuming specific foods or diets believed to boost spiritual, physical energy, like raw vegan or airy Airy Vedic diets.
Speaker 2:Airy.
Speaker 1:Vedic diets yeah.
Speaker 2:Airy Vedic.
Speaker 1:I like this one. This isn't something that I subscribe to like on a regular basis, but I have. I'll do this sporadically.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the raw, or I've never done a an all raw diet.
Speaker 1:I've definitely like.
Speaker 2:I don't think experimented is the right word, but utilize different styles of eating.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I've done a lot of different types of learning and seeing what effects they have. You know, I've done. I've done a vegetarian right now, but I've done periods of time of vegetarianism. I've done the high protein stuff, yeah, so yeah. I think people in the coaching industry, personal industry, are definitely more inclined to, you know, be open to the specialized eating routines or different things. I don't know why it calls out raw specifically, because that's just one of many different.
Speaker 1:There's so many yeah.
Speaker 2:Eating styles a person could have. Yeah, this is a good one, but this is another one that kind of like there's so many people who are not involved in coaching or not really too interested in personal development who do make eating well a priority, and they probably would be, you know, open to all the same kind of stuff when it falls under the umbrella of specialized diets. So, yeah, this is a good one, yeah, but it's not, again, not exclusive to coaches. No, I wouldn't say.
Speaker 1:I have a whole book on Ayurvedic diets, which I really like I think it is cool, but when it comes to diets and I'm not like a nutritionist or anything like that so like don't take what I'm saying, you know, too seriously, but I think everyone has their own diet. Every single person's body requires its own specific diet.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:And I feel like you know these kind of like fad diets that come and go like they don't work for everybody. You know what I mean. Like I think you have to really listen to your own body and like figure out the foods that work for you and go with that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I think that's quite true as well. Yeah, well, obviously, because you know, if everybody ate the same thing, then a lot of people would be having allergic reactions and insensitive or sensitivities to different things.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, yeah, all right, cool, let's go on to the next one. All right, next one.
Speaker 2:Is hollow tropic breath work, a technique that involves controlled breathing patterns to induce altered states of consciousness. This is super duper big amongst people in the coaching industry and personal dev industry right now more than ever. Breath work has been around forever, of course, but I think it started to gain popularity in our circles, you know, a few years ago and more and more. And these days, you know there are tons of coaches who are certified breath work people and there's retreats, you can go on the focus around breath work.
Speaker 2:William Hoff is a big, big, big name both inside and outside of the coaching industry and he really sort of advanced, I think, awareness and utilization of breath work technique in the world. So, yeah, this is a good one. This one has its place on the list for sure. The thing that and I've done breath work, because breath work is something that, with a little bit of research, is very easy to try on your own Not recommending anybody do it or don't do it, that's up to you, but I did it and you certainly can reach significantly altered states using some of these breathing techniques.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love breath work. I've had a couple of breath work sessions, like one-on-one breath work sessions with a practitioner, and I went deep, very deep. In fact. I went for my first session I didn't, which is the best, because you don't know what to expect. I had a really, really profound experience, so much so that I didn't want to go back for a second because I was like I don't know if I can handle that again.
Speaker 1:Because it was so for me. It was required, I guess. But I went to a scary place where I felt like I think it released something for me. But then so I had all this anxiety about going back because I'm like, oh God, I don't want to go through that again, and I had a completely different experience my second time. So I think it just depends what you're working through or what your mindset is at that time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I mean anything that's gonna give you access to parts of yourself in a different way. Anything that's gonna cause an altered state. Your mindset going into it is gonna have a direct impact on the experience you have.
Speaker 1:Yeah, or even the intention you're setting in terms of what are you going into discover too right?
Speaker 2:Very true, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I highly recommend that, and you can also do group classes too, which? I haven't done yet, but would like to.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've done the breathwork on my own, I've done it with friends during a coaching program, I've done it in a class and I've done it with a one-to-one practitioner, and the most powerful experience of all of those was definitely with a one-to-one practitioner. But they're all different experiences. Yeah, cool.
Speaker 1:Good techniques to know. I used breathwork when I was in the float tank because I felt a bit off base when I turned the lights off.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So I had to do some breathing just to calm myself down a little bit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, very cool. All right, let's go on to the next one. We got a lot of these it is really fun going through and talking about each of these things.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 2:You know. So I hope the listeners are enjoying this conversation and maybe they're feeling validated for the things they've tried or feeling intrigued for the things that they haven't tried and want to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, make a list of the things you want to, maybe.
Speaker 2:Make a list. If you want the full list, shoot myself or Alana a DM on Instagram. I'll send you the full list of the 18 items so you can do with that what you please. I guess and again as a reminder, we're not recommending anybody try anything or don't try anything. We're just reading the list and talking about our own experiences. Number next, number 12. Oh, this one I think some people might be surprised to hear that I really like. Number 12 is sound baths immersing, once, immersing oneself in sounds from gongs, singing bowls and other instruments for relaxation and healing. I really love those like performers that have like a whole bunch of singing bowls around them and they're doing all this stuff. I've never gone to a sound bath in person. I've consumed them via the internet, through video and audio. I really like, I'm into it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love it too. I'm really into it. I experienced a sound bath when I was on my retreat in Mexico last November and she had like all those crystal singing bowls and we were in this like circular kind of like all of our heads were together and we were just like in this meditative state. Yeah, it was really beautiful, and if you resonate with sound, then you're going to find this really relaxing.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah, and well, I mean, if this kind of goes with the frequencies, right, the sound frequencies yeah, because the sounds create the frequencies or the sounds are frequencies, and, yeah, it's the beliefs that they can impact you in different ways. The thing I think about like sometimes you know people have a hard time understanding or grasping or even believing that you know sounds can have a positive impact on you. But here's the thing they're just something you know. Worst case scenario. They're soothing, relaxing, enjoyable to listen to.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and if you like it great and obviously, if you're doing something that you enjoy and it's soothing and relaxing, that's going to create, you know, good chemistry inside your, inside your body, right, and put lower blood pressure, all that good stuff. And then, best case scenario, you know the theory that these sound waves permeating your cells causes them to be at increased health or vitality even better. Right and like the thing about soundbats is it's a no lose proposition right, unless, it's like unless they're terrible.
Speaker 2:Unless they're terrible, yeah, unless they're like unless they smash the singing bowl on your head, yeah, that's hard to go wrong, yeah, okay. So number next, number 13. What's number 13?
Speaker 1:Energetic healing, so like Reiki or chakra balancing, crystal healing. This is an interesting one because I think for some people you know they don't understand energy necessarily and like how that works. I've experienced Reiki. I think out of these, like Reiki is probably the most popular or most well known. I've had wonderful experiences with Reiki for pain. Specifically. I've never done any kind of like crystal healing, although I do own crystals and like wear crystal bracelets. I've never like experienced like an actual practitioner healing session with crystals, Although when I did do breath work the mat that I laid on was a crystal mat, Like it was. The underside was all crystals and heated. It was so cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And then with Reiki, I've had like Reiki sessions over Zoom which were amazing, Like I could literally feel stuff happening in my back with Reiki. That was with Nazreen, who we both know, and her mom, who are amazing. Then I've also experienced Reiki in-person at their home or at their studio and they have crystals everywhere. When you walk in you can just feel the energetic vibration of the crystals.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know, when you walk into a crystal store even it just feels so clean, the energy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know what you mean. Crystal stores are a lot of fun for many reasons. Yeah, this one is another one that's really big, I'll say amongst coaches and personal deaf people, anything, energy Reiki as it says they're shocker balancing et cetera, et cetera. I've definitely received Reiki and enjoyed it. Yeah, I think this is one of the ones that isn't super mainstream, especially when we talk about transmitting energy and long-distance energy and all that stuff.
Speaker 1:I think you really have to believe it. I don't know if it's-.
Speaker 2:You've got to be open to this. Yeah, to this thing, right, yeah, but yeah, this is a good one. This one definitely belongs on. Yeah, I love it what I've noticed is that a lot of the people that have come to me for coaching training, either NLP or Hypno come to me already Reiki trained.
Speaker 1:Hmm.
Speaker 2:That's interesting. A lot A significant proportion.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think what I've gathered from some of this stuff I would even argue hypnosis and coaching is energy healing, Because I think what it is. It's the exchange of energy between two people holding space for someone so that you can be heard and listened to and understood. That's an energy exchange that feels really nice.
Speaker 2:Very true. You know what I mean, yeah.
Speaker 1:I feel like a lot of modalities are energetic healing. Just having a conversation with someone that's actually listening to you is energetically healing.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Then also, the other thing that it makes me think of is going to church. I grew up going to church. I don't know if I necessarily liked to go to church to hear the sermon or anything like that, but what I loved was the organ. I loved the Reiki wooden pews and the smell of everything in there, everyone congregating together, then just that bass of the organ. For me it was just so energetically enriching. I loved it. Even now if I'm away in Europe where you're going into old churches and stuff like that, I just love it because you can feel the energy. Yeah, if you're tuned in to that, like a tuned to that, yeah, yeah, I do know what you mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, love it, yeah, I really love this one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a big one.
Speaker 2:That's a big one. Anything, energy, okay, all right Next one.
Speaker 2:Let's go on to the next one. I love the therapy and essential oils. Because of what's happened on the business side of essential oils in the last couple of decades, I know a lot of people have negative connotations in their mind attached to essential oils. There's been a lot of people who have tried to appeal to the mainstream consumers and made big claims of both the benefits of essential oils and selling essential oils. A lot of people out there unfortunately have a bad taste in their mouth about aroma therapy and essential oils. I want to acknowledge that I don't.
Speaker 1:No me either.
Speaker 2:But yeah, this is a big thing. Whenever I'm on in-person trainings for coaching or NLP, or whether I'm running them or I'm attending them, there's always people who've got like other little bottles of essential oils and aroma therapy and they're sharing and they're like okay, you got to rub this one on your wrist first thing in the morning before we start the day. Okay, we just finished lunch, now rub this one under your nose to maximize information. I love it. I love it. These people are so knowledgeable about all these things and what does what. There's also, for all the weird connotations that are touched on, there's a lot of benefits and joy. I think of essential oils, that's what I think of People excitedly being like try this and rub it here and have a great time. Then, beyond that, I had enough aroma therapy massage a few years ago.
Speaker 2:I remember it because it was easily in the top three massages I've had in my life. Just the integration of these pleasant smells basically into the experience really amped things up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love the essential oils. I'm on the same page as you. I have them around me all the time. I use them as part of just my life.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm a big fan but I don't really have them. I've gone through phases where I had a diffuser in my office which turned out to require way more maintenance than I was willing to do, because it would get gunked up and break down and I'm like you have to put water in it, all the stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm more into just putting them on my hands and smelling them if I need it. But I use essential oils every night Before I go to bed. I use it to just calm my body. I use it in my skincare, all my skincare. I just make my own skincare with essential oils.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is a good one. This one again, there's definitely some crossover between mainstream interests and coach specific interests. But this is definitely like you go to an NLP training and easily half the people there brought five plus different types of essential oils with them in their bag or their backpack or whatever.
Speaker 1:Yeah, definitely. I think coaches like my hot tip for listeners If you have doTERRA essential oils, which is one of my favorite brands, but I use one called On Guard and it's kind of like a cinnamon smell to it. But anytime I feel like I'm getting sick or if my family is sick and I'm telling myself I'm not available for the sickness, I will huff On Guard, I will go to bed Crazy.
Speaker 1:And it works. I am a firm believer in it works Because I've avoided flus and colds that everyone else in my family has by just using On Guard.
Speaker 2:Yeah, cool, all right, I'm going to try that.
Speaker 1:One Next, one Number next.
Speaker 2:This is a really interesting one. This one might even be slightly polarizing for people who are in the coaching industry and it is quantum jumping, a meditative visualization technique where individuals imagine jumping into an alternate universe to connect with another version of themselves. This comes under a lot of different names. There was a training a few years ago I remember hearing about it was like the doppelganger timeline training or something like that. It was really interesting. So this one I know the hypnotists listening to this are going to say, well, that's just hypnosis. A person imagines a different version of themselves. And yeah, they're not wrong. But some people will make the distinction to say no, it's not hypnosis, it's a different modality called quantum jumping or quantum timeline jumping or whatever. And I've used this in the context of hypnosis, where it's a visualization exercise for the purpose of accessing unconscious resources, et cetera, et cetera. This one, definitely to the uninitiated will sound weird if it's described with this quantum jumping title and the description we just heard, but definitely something coaches like, I would say.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that it's really interesting. I worked with a coach. His name was Philip Attar. He's all about somatic healing, but then he uses this astral travel within your body to go into the space, within space, within space.
Speaker 2:Cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Sounds all right.
Speaker 1:Oh, here it is Somatic heart trademark. That's what he calls it how to overcome subconscious blocks through somatic meditation. It's very interesting.
Speaker 2:Yeah. That sounds nice it sounds like a good time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if you're into hypnosis or meditation, doing this type of thing, these sort of meditative visualizations or even like putting yourself into other places, is really fun.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:All right, so I think that's one Mandela coloring, or it could be really any coloring. It doesn't have to be mandalas, but I think you posted it.
Speaker 2:You posted just the other day a picture of Mandela.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm working on one right now.
Speaker 2:And some markers that you're ready to fill in with some color.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm working on one. I really like it. That's actually.
Speaker 2:I got really into it during COVID, yeah, I think a lot of people did Kind of like adult coloring books and Mandela coloring is a more specific type of adult coloring but they kind of blew up over the pandemic and popularity because people were at home. And I think what a lot of people don't realize is with these Mandela coloring and general coloring is that it can be quite meditative. It can be quite relaxing and soothing to the mind. It can also open communication between the conscious and the unconscious. There's many benefits. This coming from a person who has never done this, I'm just aware of it.
Speaker 1:No, it's true it does, For those that enjoy it.
Speaker 2:I think it's a great little hobby, great little exercise to have.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's really fun and it does Like it quiets the mind, because you're, because it's the Mandela specifically. Everything is small, right, it's just enough concentration that it takes the mind chatter away because if you want to stay in, the lines. I've seen some pretty funny memes where it's just like when you're so frustrated and you're doing a Mandela and it's just like scribbled all over, but you pop in some sound frequencies and start doing the Mandela coloring. So it's such a relaxing little exercise.
Speaker 2:Yeah, stack a few of these things.
Speaker 1:Or listen to a podcast while you're doing it, even.
Speaker 2:Yeah, or listen to the no Excuses coaching podcast.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Cool, All right. So number next, number 17, is dance or movement therapy, Using dance or movement as a form of emotional and physical expression. So when I was a younger person I think it was grade seven there was a man that came to my school to give a presentation I think he was like an art teacher or a drama teacher or something like that and he did this demonstration on what he called frenetic dance frenetic dance, which is and he invited people to like get up on in front of the group with him and just do kind of whatever, just move their bodies in whatever way they intuited in front of everyone. And I remember knowing that I would never, ever, ever, do that ever. And now here we are, 20 years later, and in the coaching world we have the what's the name for it?
Speaker 1:Ecstatic dance parties.
Speaker 2:Ecstatic, ecstatic dance and similar rituals. Still not doing it. I'm not into this type of expression personally. Fabulous for you folks who are not my jam, not my jam, yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, this is the whole, the whole point of my Hypnoflow classes. Right Is to move the energy and have that expression. If you feel called to do something like that, yeah, because it can be very healing once you cross that threshold.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I remember one time, not that long ago some years ago, but not that long ago I happened to be in a very large park at the same time as another group. The group was there and they were doing what appeared to be scream therapy. So they were all just screaming a lot and again, good, good, good for you if that is your way of expressing or moving energy, not my thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm not really all. I don't like those aggressive ones. I don't know if this maybe there's some sort of deep subconscious thing for me but like the aggressive, like anger therapies I'm not into like where you like smash stuff or you like punch a pillow or you scream into a pillow. Yeah, I would much rather like dance.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Or move my body that way. Yeah, but I must say I'm a huge proponent of movement and like ecstatic dance and that type of thing. But where I don't like it is if I'm at like a conference and we're hanging out and learning and I'm in learning mode and then they're like okay, let's get up, we're going to have like a two minute ecstatic dance break. That I'm not in alignment with, as much as like going to a hypno flow class or an ecstatic dance class where you've like set the intention that this is what I want to do right now.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because I think that you own, not that you have to be prepared for it, but it's just like you. You need to be in the headspace, that okay, I'm going to move my body now.
Speaker 1:I don't like the idea of it being sprung on me that all of a sudden I'm going to have to get up and do this like dancing, like that happened when we were at Hypno Thoughts last summer or two summers ago. I was in a seminar and all of a sudden they're like okay, let's get up and we're going to just shake it and I was like I don't want to do that right now.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Into it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, a lot of like. A lot of coach, trainers and motivational people try to get groups to do that, and it's something that I don't.
Speaker 1:I feel like it's a rapport breaker right off the top.
Speaker 2:I don't appreciate it personally. If I'm sitting in a seminar, that's like we're expected to dance during the breaks.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Yeah, personally, I dance what I want to dance, which is rarely Not when we're on break in a well-lit room in the middle of the day when I'd rather be drinking coffee. Okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're the last one.
Speaker 2:Number 18. Mystical or spirit animal guidance Seeking guidance or signs from specific animals or mystical creatures yeah, this is a big one. Like there's like the animal related tarot cards, and this is something that I haven't explored a ton Personally, I'll be honest. Most of the stuff on the list I know a good amount about, but I don't know too much about spirit animals or Mystical animal guidance Me neither.
Speaker 1:I have to look them up when I find them. But I was just looking because I have a whole spirit animal deck but I can't find it right now. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:This is one again that, like I think, has permeated the mainstream. There's conversation of my spirit animal this, my spirit animal that, but again something that, yeah, I think a lot of coaches are into Not just spirit animal stuff but like astrology.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it's more symbolism, right.
Speaker 2:Symbolism, yeah, all that.
Speaker 1:Numbers Numerology.
Speaker 2:That's all like well within the wheelhouse of like a lot of people in personal down the coaching.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I didn't really get into the animal thing until my dad passed away, and then I don't know what it was. But when my dad passed away I really got into animals and I think it's probably because a lot of people tell you about their experiences with, like butterflies or different animals, and then you're like, oh, maybe you know that's happening for me too.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So that's how I got down that rabbit hole, because for a long time my dad was like a blue J, and then he was a cardinal, and then he was a butterfly. Yeah, yeah, but you're just looking for anything that's going to give you, you know, some peace.
Speaker 2:Of course, yeah, I've heard. If you spend any time, you spot a cardinal like a red cardinal.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's a sign of somebody who's passed visiting with you yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I 100% believe in that. Yeah, I have a little cardinal, but I can't find it right now too.
Speaker 2:Hmm, anyway, actually, you know that's crazy. I have like a red. This must be a cardinal in. Uh, I have this plant on my desk, which is a cactus. That is yeah, and then it came with this little red bird inside of it, and I guess that could only be a cardinal, yeah, so there you go, yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, that's the list.
Speaker 2:There's the list. If you want to copy the list, shoot us a DM If you want to hear. If you're listening to this episode, you didn't hear part one with numbers one through nine from the list. Go back to the previous episode and listen to that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you know, I just kind of got an idea. I know it's like we're nowhere near Christmas or the holiday season, but you could almost turn this list into like a little advent calendar.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know, or you could make it for you know a friend or something like that, where, like, you just make your own advent calendar and then you put these little things in for every day. But we'd need to add seven more.
Speaker 2:Yeah, or just add a lot.
Speaker 1:Or have less yeah.
Speaker 2:Do the 18 Cochi days of Christmas yeah?
Speaker 1:Or this could even be a content thing, I don't know. Yeah, 18 Cochi days of Christmas and you know, maybe you give away stuff. I don't know. So many ideas.
Speaker 2:So many All kinds People do sorts of things Cool, all right, I guess that's it for those that are listening. Join my simple social sanctuary, right, you can find the details there. Yeah, social media coaching from me. And join Alana's Ascension Circle.
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Speaker 2:Sweet. Sounds all right, sounds like a good idea.
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Speaker 2:All right, there we go. Thanks a lot, bye, that's it All right yeah.
