003: Beyond Bloodwork: How to Take Charge and Balance Your System with Small Lifestyle Shifts with Dr. Michael Biamonte

“The only way you can balance the person is to find out what their balance or imbalance is and then work to correct it.” —Dr. Michael Biamonte

True optimization is a journey requiring an open mind, commitment to learning, and willingness to look beyond surface answers toward more complete wellness. When prevention and the whole person are priorities, much can be gained without dependence on the conventional system and its one-size-fits-all remedies. 

This week’s episode explores cutting-edge approaches to thyroid and diabetes care beyond traditional medical models with renowned clinical nutritionist, Dr. Michael Biamonte. Dr. Biamonte is the founder of the Biamonte Center for Clinical Nutrition and has over 30 years of experience as a practitioner. He is dedicated to improving patient health through a holistic, evidence-based approach to clinical nutrition focused on balancing the whole person.

Tune in as Dr. Michael Biamonte reveals how mineral ratios and additional testing provide deeper insights into thyroid function compared to bloodwork alone. Ann and Dr. Biamonte also discuss the importance of organic non-GMO diets, testing before supplementing, addressing root imbalances rather than just symptoms, how certain supplements can interact, and ways to support health naturally through functional and integrative approaches.

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Episode Highlights: 

01:17 Thyroid Function and Nutrition

04:56 Bloodwork Alone is Not Enough

11:15 How Non-GMO Diet Impacts Health

15:24 The Future of Medicine: Personalized Supplements

23:37 The Truth About Multivitamins

32:03 The Origins of Pharmaceutical Drugs

40:00 The Importance of Testing for Imbalances and Deficiencies

Transcript

Ann LeMaster: Hi, welcome to Common Sense Living Podcast. My name is Ann LeMaster, and I have a really special treat today. I'm really impressed with Dr. Michael Biamonte. 

He's the founder of the Biamonte Center for Clinical Nutrition. He's a co-creator of BioCybernetics, which is an unprecedented computer software program that's able to study bloodwork, mineral tests and many other lab tests to determine exactly where your body is imbalanced, initially designed for aerospace purposes. As a practitioner for over 30 years, he is dedicated to improving the lives of his patients and helping them get back to living. He holds a doctorate of Nutripathy, and is a New York State Certified Clinical Nutritionist. He is a professional member of the International and American Association of Clinical Nutritionists, the American College of Nutrition, and as a member of the Scientific Advisory Board for the Clinical Nutrition Certification Board. He is listed in The Directory of Distinguished Americans for his research in Nutrition and Physiology. I'm just honored to have you on my program today because nutrition is so important. And some of the reading I had done with what you deal with is like the thyroid. I know the doctors say that you're in this parameter, oh, you're good. Well, it doesn't mean you're good.

Michael Biamonte: No, not at all. One subject in healthcare I can say is there's a million holes in understanding the word function. Partly because the doctors don't know enough about testing correctly for thyroid. Some doctors do a TSH and a T4 on people and they think they have all the data and they're so far away from it. In order to construct a really effective thyroid program, I've had to take data from essentially three different doctors and put it all together. One is Dr. Westin Childs. Westin Childs specializes in interpreting bloodwork for thyroid, and also making nutritional formulas that will work instead of the medications. Dr. David Watts who's the head owner and researcher of Trace Elements Incorporated. They do hair analysis studies, and they've studied the mineral ratios. They understand how those mineral ratios affect hormones, affect your neurotransmitters. And then also Dr. Eric Ring. He has a website that you can go to. And on his website, he will teach you how to use your body temperatures to come up with a more accurate understanding of the state of your thyroid function than any blood test is ever going to do. I've combined those three doctors' research into coming up with a thyroid program that utilizes all their data, their knowledge, and it gives you a very comprehensive look at what your thyroid is actually doing because bloodwork misses telling you what your thyroid receptor sites are doing. Your thyroid receptor sites, and this goes back to the guidance physiology book and guidance physiology. Guyton had written many years ago that in some ways, we still don't fully understand how calcium and potassium act as regulators for thyroid receptors. Calcium acts like a governor, and the potassium acts to upregulate the thyroid. We now know since then that zinc and copper are also important. So it kind of goes that copper and zinc, then your tissues regulate the uptake of your thyroid hormone, while zinc and potassium up regulate. So calcium and copper down regulate, zinc and potassium up regulate, and that's the balance. That's how your body achieves a balance and how it responds to your thyroid hormone. It's based on copper and calcium downregulating. Well, zinc and potassium upregulate.

Ann LeMaster: That's complicated.

Michael Biamonte: But if you don't have familiarity with these tests, mineral tissue tests and you're relying on bloodwork, you totally missed it because you can have somebody with perfect bloodwork. And if those receptors are really wonky, this person is going to manifest every symptom of low thyroid, and they're going to have low body temperatures. And the doctor is going to sit there and say, well, your tests are all fine. Those are the tests that he's looking at are all fine.

Ann LeMaster: I've always run it 97 point something for my temperature.

Michael Biamonte: Anyone who's below 97.8 has a functionally low thyroid. The gray area is 97.8 to 98.2, that could be thought of as a gray area. But once you get below 97.8, your thyroid is functionally low. Your temperature ideally should be above 98.2.

Ann LeMaster: Wow. Didn't I just hear something recently that said 97 something was okay.

Michael Biamonte: Because so many people are coming up with these. You have to remember, this is how laboratories come up with. Their reference range is based on how many people are showing this. The smarter labs, the better labs look at the population. This is what we did when we organized BioCybernetics. We only took the levels of healthy people who had no symptoms. We looked at healthy people with no symptoms. We looked at what their levels were, and we constructed our reference ranges based on that. And there are still other labs that will still do that. But if you're allowed, then you just generally take everybody who's got every disease and every symptom in the world, and you take all their data, and you compile, and you come up with a reference range where your reference range includes a lot of people who are really sick.

Ann LeMaster: Hmm. Interesting. No wonder everybody's confused.

Michael Biamonte: Well, that just from the bloodwork viewpoint, from what Dr. Childs would look up, he typically will include fasting insulin on all his blood work for thyroid. And the reason for that is elevated insulin down regulates your thyroid so you can have what appears to be very normal thyroid chemistries. But if your fasting insulin is high, it's suppressing the activity. And when you're looking at hormones, you have to remember that hormones hit target sites in your body receptor sites, and that's where they work. So the fact that a hormone is at a good level doesn't guarantee it's actually working. That's where we can fall back on looking at those mineral ratios, the calcium, copper, zinc and potassium, and then your body temperature because we're getting to see the end result of the effects of the world.

Ann LeMaster: Say that you have a lot of oil in your body floating around, you're good, right? But no, maybe it's floating around because you're not using it.

Michael Biamonte: Well, actually not to be anal about this. But technically, it doesn't float around. What happens is it deposits someplace. And then the more of the element that deposits, the more you have a tissue overload of that element. And that's when you really end up with trouble, especially when it comes to calcium because that's how you develop arteriosclerosis as you have the calcium depositing in your tissues and in your blood vessels. But essentially, you're correct. What you're describing as bioavailability, it is what we would call it. It's biologically unavailable to your body, because it's depositing all over the place rather than working where it's supposed to.

Ann LeMaster: Well, there's a lot of messed up out there. I'm a nurse, but I call myself an alternative nurse because I believe more like you do. I go deeper. But unfortunately, I don't know enough. And sometimes, I think I know too much.

Michael Biamonte: Well, knowing too much isn't a bad thing, as long as you understand where it stops and where it begins. But back to Dr. Childs, he also has read them the reference ranges for certain thyroid levels. So he found that reverse T3 should be much lower than labs are allowing it. Labs are, again, allowing a lot of people with really elevated reverse T3 to come into their reference range. Some labs go up to 24, and he found that that should be lower than 10. And he's also found that free T3 should be much higher than labs think. And again, that was comparing the levels of athletes and people who were really in great health compared to the average, so that's a lesson to be learned when you're looking at labs. You have to have your interpretation correct.

Ann LeMaster: And each lab has their own. They can do it. My husband went to the colonoscopy doctor and he had labs done there, and the regular doctor had labs done. Regular doctors say that he's fine. The other doctor said, nah, you need to tweak it a bit. I don't remember which lab it was, but say 4 is good. He was 4.2 at one, and 3.8 at the other kind of thing.

Michael Biamonte: Two schools of thought I've encountered, and both of them aren't totally wrong. One of them is when you're looking at labs, there can be a variation that occurs in a test. And that could occur for a lot of different reasons if the person does not do a fasting blood test. So in my opinion, I throw them out. But the type of work I need to do, I have to have the blood test fast and right. Because if it's not fasting, you get too much of a variation in certain parameters for me to really trust it. But if a doctor is looking for pathology and he has a person who does a non fasting blood test, that's not necessarily unworkable because the levels that you have to have to show certain pathologies are going to be relatively high. And whether you fasted or not, may not affect that. But on the other hand, there is also a natural variation that occurs day to day in your own body's production of different substances that show up in the blood. So you may just have something abnormal one day. But then in the next 10 blood tests you do, it could be normal. So that happens also. So you have to be quick not to pull the trigger on certain things. If you have somebody whose blood work suddenly shows something elevated, or very low, you have to look at it and say, well, maybe this might have been affected by something they did. And there was something affecting them in that time period. It doesn't mean this has to be chronic. And then you watch the test. You see the next time they do a blood test if it's still that way, well, now you have more validity.

Ann LeMaster: Could even affect it.

Michael Biamonte: A cold or a flu three years ago, when your white blood count is low, well, it doesn't mean you have AIDS. But there are doctors, your show is called Common Sense, people don't have common sense enough to think with that.

Ann LeMaster: There's a lot of people out there that don't. I was raised in the 50's and 60's, and I was raised with Common Sense. I always think a little bit deeper.

Michael Biamonte: I would agree. Common sense is something that the more you watch the news in the last few years, it's waning seriously.

Ann LeMaster: I know. I know. Wow. So what are some of our common pitfalls in nutrition other than too much fake sugar or sugar?

Michael Biamonte: Common pitfalls just generally in people's nutrition? I would say the biggest problem is GMO foods. Bill Gates is wanting everyone to eat some synthetic meat that he's growing. He's gonna vaccinate you to death. The thing's gonna feed your phony meat, that's gonna get to that. He's gonna get you that way. But I would say eating non organic, non GMO, and that's a study in itself. When you go to the stores, you have to be able to read the labels. But someone who eats organic and eats non-GMO, they're doing about the best they can with the food chain and the food supply that they're going to encounter. I would say that it was the first priority. And that also would answer the question, if there was one single thing I could tell anybody about health? That's what I would tell them. I would tell them to eat non GMO, try to eat as organic as possible. We have patients sometimes with really severe Candida, and they'll go to Italy. And while they're in Italy, they'll be eating pasta, bread and all these foods you're not supposed to eat if you have Candida. And their symptoms are relatively mild, if none at all. And then they come back to the United States and try to do the same thing, and then they just break out until a full blown problem again. And what's the difference? Well, the food there is all organic and non GMO.

Ann LeMaster: Something the Americans don't understand, and I learned this in cosmetics. Europe has a standard that they don't have all this crap in it, and all will buy that product. I'm gonna buy that because it's in Europe, but the standard for Americans is to dump anything you want in it. And so you're buying the product at those prices, but you're getting a bunch of shit.

Michael Biamonte: That's really good for people to know.

Ann LeMaster: That's what I like about my show. I have had two hits on YouTube, because I had said giving flu shots one year now, I'll probably get another hit on this one now. Aborted fetal tissue was in one year. I always have the insert there, it came off the insert.

Michael Biamonte: YouTube removed all my podcasts on autism claiming that I was saying things which weren't true. Now I wish those people actually get clinically in the chair, and actually start to work with autistic kids in their lab work, and we'll get to see how much these things aren't true.

Ann LeMaster: Trying to find somebody that does your kind of work isn't very easy. I've found a couple of them in San Antonio, and functional is the best I can come up with. But yeah, all the stuff that they do well in defense of my doctor, when he told him I'm starting what's called painting diabetes differently. Because if you do it the way the medical system tells you to do it, you'll always have it and get worse.

Michael Biamonte: Well, that's the whole point. There's an old joke that the first thing is never kill the patient. First thing, never kill the patient. Second thing is never to cure the patient. Because if you do either, he's not there to buy your subscription medications. So you can't kill him. You can't cure him.

Ann LeMaster: I wrote a Chapter in methodology called Pain for Profit. And I use myself as an example. This is three years ago, and I work too hard in the garden and do not have proper body mechanics at all. Man, I was hurting so bad. I'm walking with a limb, high pain tolerance over 10. And three months later, I went to the doctor and he said, prednisone, NSAIDs or therapy? I said, therapy. Why was that the last thing he offered? It should have been the first starting list. I know what prednisone can do with all that. So they sent me to a therapist that had six people he was in charge of, and it was like going to a gym. But I still heard it here. Oh, well, then it's this. So then three months after that, I go to the hip doctor because I'd had a hip replacement several years before, and I go back every year. He says, you need another hip surgery. I didn't even look at it. I said, how about an x-ray? So we'll do that next year. Well, the appointment was yesterday. I didn't go because he tried to make up for the money that he lost during COVID. I waited a little longer and decided that maybe I should get a bone density. So I did, and that doctor praised him. He sent me to a results therapy in San Antonio in Evans road, for anybody that's aware. They were awesome. The guy pushed on my psoas muscle, it hurt like hell. But I endured it. The first time in three years, I was able to walk out of an appointment without a limp. I'd say now that I'm 85% back. I still have trouble crossing my leg over like a tie shoe, but I can do it. But it hurts.

Michael Biamonte: That's for instead of having a hip replacement.

Ann LeMaster: I caught on because I have common sense. I think it's true. They don't listen. Anyway, this doctor when I went this time and I said how I'll back it up on organic food, I'm at 80/20. 80 organic, 20% because I can't get away from the crap. So when I went back to visit my family last year, they didn't eat anything healthy. Whatever is cheap, even eggs, but they'll not be organic. It almost turns my stomach to think about it. But I gave up and just ate everything I came home and (inaudible) freaked me out. That's when I started my program. And six weeks later it was 4.9. The doctor asked me, how did you do that? And I said, through my program, eating healthy and doing the right things. I bounce because I like my ice cream. But at least I know what I know, I can control it. And I'm right back on it.

Michael Biamonte: You can also make the ice cream yourself at home. Simplest thing in the world is buy an ice cream maker, use your own ingredients and do it at home.

Ann LeMaster: Yeah, it'd be worth it as much as I like my ice cream supplements. What about supplements? Everybody's got a supplement. How do you know when they're the good ones or not?

Michael Biamonte: Just get it tested. This is the thing that the doctor of the future will do. The doctor of the future is going to have a complete genetic test. He's going to know every genetic error in your body. What are you prone to? And then he's going to do functional tests to see what your levels are.Your levels of nutrients, your amino acid levels, your hormones, your vitamins, your minerals, your fatty acids. He's going to have all that data to see where you are. And he's going to be able to recommend supplements based on correcting imbalances that he finds. This will be the doctor of the future. And Thomas Edison said that the doctor of the future will give no medicine, but he will. I'd have to paraphrase him, but he will give attention to diet and more items that have to do with natural lifestyle. And this is indeed the exact vision Thomas Edison had in terms of what we will have as the doctor of the future will be. He'll be armed with the genetic information of his patient, but he'll be looking at the patient's lab work, which shows you in present time what his nutrient levels are. And his goal is going to be to balance the person out by giving the right supplement, not by going to the health food store with a coupon that you got in the paper to have $5 off on some coQ10 product they're selling, but actually to have a lab test that shows you what you need and what you don't need. Because the biggest thing people don't understand and the health industry doesn't want you to know is that when you take supplements that you don't need, you're throwing yourself out of balance. Person who goes to the health food store and buys all these supplements because he read about them in a book or it's the latest fad. Every 10 years, there's a new fad. 

Back in the 80's, the fad was vitamin E, and then the fad became fish oil, and then magnesium, and then became coQ10. And every 10 years, there's new. But the problem is people take things not knowing if they need them. And then the senior problem is when you take something that you don't need, you throw yourself out of balance. It is true that vitamins, many of them are water soluble and you eat them out. But what they're not telling you is that while you're picking up the vitamin, you're also paying out some other vitamin or mineral. That element, that excess of whatever you're taking that you don't need is binding to or chelating and pulling out. People who take huge amounts of vitamin C have to watch their copper levels. They can develop a copper deficiency. People who are taking high amounts of calcium could suppress their magnesium. People who take too much vitamin D can also suppress and cause the magnesium to become bioavailable, and it goes on and on. Vitamin D imbalances magnesium. You take too much D, you end up with bioavailable magnesium. You end up with magnesium in your test that will be sky high because your systems aren't using it. It just goes on and on, and this is why people take supplements. And sometimes, they cause more harm than good.

Ann LeMaster: So that's an interesting twist to it. So you go out and you spend all this money on dollars. Don't buy any of those, and go and get tested by the correct tests. And maybe you're going to spend your money there and spend it here.

Michael Biamonte: Better off getting the test, and then seeing what you need to take. And if you can't afford to buy at all, you should buy the key things. You will be in better shape than if you just went to the store and bought all the supplements that you don't know whether or not you need them. And you may cause a serious imbalance in your system.

Ann LeMaster: And I'm guilty. I buy too many supplements, I'm sure. And they're so expensive. I told my husband, I'm going to be cutting back on him because everybody's got the latest greatest. (inaudib;e) was one, and that was so expensive. They're all expensive. You don't even know what their quality is. They say they are, but are they really?

Michael Biamonte: Some companies have a reputation. Metagenics, for instance. Pure Encapsulations have great reputations. They're probably the best quality around these solutions. We would hope that if we're using those, that it is a good product. But if you're not tested, you're asking for trouble. So another piece of advice I give people is, before you go out and spend a lot of money on supplements, don't listen to the PR from the health food store and the vitamin companies. If you take supplements that you don't need, you're imbalancing your chemistry. There was a woman on Instagram, I forgot her name, but she was talking about thyroid function. She was saying that all people with low thyroid need to take zinc, they need to take copper, they need to take a few different nutrients. I'm looking at this. I wrote in and I said I said, people with low thyroid, especially women who are estrogen dominant tend to be very high in copper and actually tend to be copper toxic. And copper as an element directly down regulates all thyroid hormones. Copper is like one of the most devastating things to your thyroid. And she wrote back and she says, yes, but foods high in copper are also high in zinc and nature's smart. Well, that may be true, but that doesn't handle the imbalance that the person has. If you have somebody who's already copper toxic, giving them foods high in copper is not the fact that they have some zinc in there. It isn't functionally going to do anything. When I see people that create these posts, the first thing I'm realizing is this person has very little clinical experience. They know nothing about testing their patients to really determine what is needed and what isn't needed. Because once you test the patient and you see their copper is elevated, first of all, you can't correct that with food. You have to correct that using supplementation, and giving them foods that are high in copper are only going to add to the problem.

Ann LeMaster: You can have a balance. But even if things are balanced and you're already up here, it's going to stay there. You're never going to bring it down.

Michael Biamonte: So the concept of taking a multivitamin. Someone asked me this the other day on a different podcast, does a multivitamin do you any good? Well, a multivitamin can only increase the present balance you have or support that. It can't correct an imbalance because you don't know what the imbalance is in the first place. The basis of a multivitamin is a little bit of everything. So let's say a person has excess calcium that they're not utilizing and you give them a multivitamin that has calcium. Well, now they have a little more of the calcium directly to say, you're not giving them something that's going to balance them. The only way you can balance the person is to find out what their balance or imbalance is, and then work to correct it. That's the only way you can do it. You can't do it by just arbitrarily aimlessly giving supplements.

Ann LeMaster: I think that the world will shift and the better doctors, you're talking about doctors of the future, because so many people are sick and getting sicker, and their life is lacking so much because of it. They go to the doctor and they're just in debt to the expense of the medical system. And people are going to wake up. I really think so. Because it comes to the peak, and I think we're pretty much at the peak when people will wake up and start hearing more of people like you and me sharing it. It helps as well. I learned, and now all my listeners will learn to. I know Valerie is on, she always listens. She's a functional medicine, but she does labs. And so Valerie, I'll probably give you a call. You are spectacular in your knowledge.

Michael Biamonte: I've been doing this since 1982. I've learned from some of the best, so I'm fortunate in that.

Ann LeMaster: What other tidbits of information do you want to share? Anything, you've got the floor.

Michael Biamonte: A phenomenon now that we call a Paradoxical B12 Deficiency. This is one of the latest toys that we've had up there. Paradoxical B12 deficiency is a condition which is recognised by someone who is not taking vitamin B12 having very elevated B12 levels in their blood for unknown reasons. On a hair analysis, you will find that this is reflected by elevated cobalt levels. Because cobalt, that element is the center of the B12 molecule. So when they're on a hair test, cobalt represents vitamin B12. So you can find someone with really elevated cobalt or B12 in their blood. They're not taking it. And people wonder why what is this about? If they were taking it, it'd be obvious they're taking too much. So stop taking it the next blood test that should go down. But that's not what happens. But for people with this condition, what we discovered is that vitamin B2 riboflavin needs to be present in a certain amount in your body in order for B12 to be utilized. So if you have a B2 deficiency, it may not even be a clinical deficiency. That's something I need to cover separately, but there are different degrees of deficiencies, let's say for now. And if you don't have enough vitamin B2, you don't utilize the B12. So the B12 elevates. You give the person the vitamin B2 and the B12 will start to come down because they start to utilize it. Now, there are conditions which can also mess this up. If a person has elevated copper or mercury, that copper and mercury can interfere with B2 utilization. So you'd have to step back for a second. If you have a person with this unique need to see if they're copper toxic or mercury toxic, detox them of the copper and mercury, then B2 will be available to lower the B12.

Ann LeMaster: You talked about mercury. And several years ago, I paid bookoo bucks to have my old fillings out. And my C reactive protein was like, the HSC reactive protein was like a 3.3. And it went down to 8 to 1 point. Three months later, I was amazed. I also went to the Swift Clinic. When I was 65, I went over there with the green smoothie girl. I had the, what they call where they put it in your vein to do the mercury to pull it out? Yeah, something like that. That was interesting.

Michael Biamonte: Whenever anyone has their fillings removed, there's a couple of things you have to know. First of all, the dentist who does this has to be using something called a rubber dam. That is the first most basic thing. The dentist can employ a lot of other measures when they're removing the fillings to make sure that you don't ingest the mercury that they're pulling out. But you've got to be really careful that he knows what he's doing. Because if he doesn't, you'll take a downturn. You will be sick and you won't know why. That's the very, very least they need to do. I've treated many dentists in my life for mercury toxicity. I'll never forget the first one. The first one came to me, it must have been in 1980's, 85. He had chronic diarrhea all the time, and he was shaking. How do you have a dentist with his hands shaking? How was he supposed to work on you? It was neurological. He was developing mercury poisoning. I tested him, and I found his Mercury was off the chart. And it took us two years to get this fellow's Mercury back down. And then after that he was fine, everything went well. The symptoms went away. But I've also had other dentists who refuse to acknowledge and believe that that was true. They had all the symptoms of mercury toxicity. I showed them their test that is high in mercury, and they refuse to believe it. Because of course, they had a vested interest at that point in putting mercury in people's smells.Going back to what I was just saying about deficiencies. There are different degrees of deficiencies that can occur. We have a clinical deficiency that occurs when a person's nutrient level is so low that it physically manifests. This would be somebody with vitamin D deficiency to the point where they get rickets, or they get mottling of the teeth containing vitamin C to the point where they get scurvy. So those are clinical deficiencies. 

Then you have a subclinical deficiency. That's a deficiency that's below that level where the person has problems due to lack of an optimal level of the vitamin. So this is somebody who gets sick too often, because they don't have enough vitamin C. He doesn't have scurvy, but he gets sick too often because he doesn't have enough vitamin C. His gums bleed a little bit too much, because there's not enough vitamin C to support the collagen. So then you have another level where we're not even entering or talking about deficiencies anymore, but you're talking about a pharmacology action of the nutrient. A nutrient can have a nutritional function. It can have a pharmacological function like Vitamin B6. You can take vitamin B6 as the diuretic. Vitamin B6 is a pretty effective diuretic. But you've got to take somewhere, usually around 500 milligrams for it to have that effect. So that's using the vitamin like a drug. And then the next level up from there you have is a toxicological effect, where you take so much of the nutrient that it's actually acting like a toxin in your body. Especially since supplements are available, and you can experiment with these things. You can get all kinds of interesting phenomena going on. But as long as somebody knows that, you can have different levels of deficiencies. That's important because it allows other things to make more sense.

Ann LeMaster: I remember many, many years ago, probably 50 years ago, I was taking a lot of B vitamins. I was working in the factory at the time. And after lunch, I smell cheeseburgers. And then I got to thinking, I took my vitamins then so I'm thinking, it was just coming out my sweat that I could smell it. But growing up, I had rickets. I had teeth that didn't come in and stuff like that. My mom had lost the baby between my sister and I, and had to stay in bed in order for me to be born. I was about eight years old, and then I had what was called Huntington's chorea. Are you familiar with that at all? Second cousin of rheumatic fever. And my aunt at the time was kind of old school, the herbalist and stuff, and she said that I needed vitamin C. And she gave me a jar of Tang, remember Tang?

Michael Biamonte: I remember Tang, the astronauts.

Ann LeMaster: That's what got us started on the vitamins. I've always been a health nut without even knowing that I was, eat from the ground, and I revere all the plants. You can't go wrong with them. Unfortunately, in Texas last year, most of mine all burned up and die. They can handle the cold, but not that extreme heat and drought.

Michael Biamonte: What most people don't know is that a great many pharmaceutical drugs, the active ingredients were discovered in plants. A lot of people don't know that a lot of medicines come from plants.

Ann LeMaster: Exactly. But now they have been tinkered by a wonderful friend that thinks he is a scientist.

Michael Biamonte: Who might that be?

Ann LeMaster: Oh, I think of a swinging gate.

Michael Biamonte: I believe that has been correct. The other thing too which is interesting is that you can't, and this goes back to the Rockefellers. The Rockefellers were the ones who got the idea to make pharmaceuticals because they had a tremendous amount of leftover coal tar from their oil industry, and they didn't know what to do with it. And someone showed them that they could take that coal tar and synthesize the active ingredients and herbs. And one of the first ones they came up with was Digitalis, which is the best example. Digitalis is the active ingredient in a herb called foxglove. But you see, the problem is when you grow a plant, you cannot put any kind of government regulation or patent on the plants. You cannot go back to that. You cannot plant to a large extent, this is why we have the pharmaceutical industry that we have because the pharmaceutical engineering industry was born out of the necessity of these people to be able to patent the active ingredient in something, so that they were the exclusive therefore providers of it. Because otherwise, people would be going out in their backyard growing these plants.

Ann LeMaster: And the smart ones still are. I haven't had the flu since 1968. In 57, I had the flu. The pandemic at 57. Two weeks later, I got it again. 1968, I had it again. Haven't had it since yet. Well, I don't take the flu shot. I took one in 2006. To me, it starts with your attitude, mind over matter, so to speak. So I refuse to get sick. Sometimes, I don't feel the greatest. But I don't have to miss work because I'm not sick.

Michael Biamonte: Well, vaccines are very controversial even before the COVID vaccine which is now breaking every record for controversy. But even before then, vaccines were somewhat controversial. And it's not that the science of inoculation is good and reliable. And it's been proven throughout history that inoculation can work. The problem is with modern vaccines. Then you load them up with all kinds of garbage, you don't know what is happening to the person at that point. You don't know what is this reaction they're getting. Why are they sick after getting the vaccine? Well, the doctor wants to explain that you're sick after getting the vaccine because it's your immune system being stimulated by that. Well, that might be great if the vaccine didn't have all kinds of nanoparticles, and all kinds of weird things from outer space, and then right from the king cobra.

Ann LeMaster: There's supposed to be a drug, and I can't remember, I was reading it. Not a drug, a natural thing.. The snake venom. I just read it in an email the other day, and it's something with hydroxychloroquine. Could it be? Something like that.

Michael Biamonte: Because we know what detoxifies people from the vaccine.

Ann LeMaster: It came with nicotine and that snake venom goes to that, releases from where it is and goes to that, and then it's eliminated. How many people are going to do that?

Michael Biamonte: No, I don't think so. But it's not even necessary to do that. Because to detoxify someone from the vaccine, specifically the COVID vaccine, you first have to destroy any remaining particles of the DNA of the virus, which the spike protein might be hanging on to. And then it's been proven in several countries, there are different enzymes that can destroy the spike protein. Now interestingly enough, there's been a blood test available for the spike protein for quite some time. And according to Dr. Fauci, the spike protein is supposed to leave your body in a few weeks. Well, I've tested people who had it in their body for years after being vaccinated. But you can if you take nattokinase and any chymotrypsin enzyme, that will digest the spike protein and eliminate it within a few weeks.

Ann LeMaster: Wow. Yeah. It's all to make us sick, and people don't believe it. What everybody says, a conspiracy theorist or whatever, I've got common sense, right? Even now, this is a different topic yet. It made me go with his diabetes course. Why do you take a job when you can do it with food and your attitude? It doesn't mean you can't have an ice cream ever again. Like you said, make your own or have it as a treat, not a daily thing.

Michael Biamonte: If you're aware of what's been going on on social media with diabetes in the last week. But apparently, Dr. Oz has taken some of the top herbal remedies for diabetes, and he has put them in a gummy. And apparently the gummy delivery system, this is not an advertisement for Dr. Oz. This is going to end up being this way. But apparently, this gummy delivery system creates an outstanding effect with the substances on your body. And he is claiming that he can cure diabetes in a few days, and it will never come back. He's had huge celebrities come on and testify to this. He's had a commercial that was on Instagram and Facebook where some major celebrities who had diabetes came on and said that they've been taking this pill, that their diabetes is gone. They're A1C, went from 8 down to 3 in a couple of weeks. So I think this is interesting. Why I think it's interesting is because somebody of Dr. Oz's stature makes unbelievable claims like this. If it's not true, then he is ready for the straitjacket because he already has 16 lawsuits on him from this. Because apparently, the drug companies are freaking out. The drug companies are worried that Ozempic and all these other drugs that are meant for are all going to be out in the garbage. If what he's saying is true, literally, he's going to take a tremendous bite out of the drug companies yearly income, gross income.

Ann LeMaster: Drug companies are gonna go down the tube. They are waking up to it. A lady I know, and she's got a PhD. Not a doctor, but a PhD. She takes her weekly wiggly shot. Her hands just shake like crazy in her heart races, why are you taking it? And then I asked them, do you know the mechanism of action? First off, they don't even understand what I'm talking about. And I say, it cuts your digestion 70%. So now, you're not only not eating as much, you're not getting your nutrients that you need, because you're only getting 30% out of what you eat. And then you go out with all your group of friends, and you're having your drinks and whatever. And this is another thing I read. I had three things here. And she says, oh, nothing goes down. So anyhow, 100% shutdown in her gut didn't digest anything. Another one, the husband found his wife laying on the floor with all this ooze out of her mouth. She regurgitated everything because she couldn't digest it, and still they took it.

Michael Biamonte: It's bad enough. Because as you get older, there's a few tricks that God plays on you when you get older. The first is that he lowers your stomach acid so that you can't absorb things the way you used to. And that's why you'll see old people shaking, that's from magnesium deficiency. And then your DHEA levels drop, and that's how your hormones go down. So it's bad enough. We have those two things without having to take drugs that are going to further amplify these problems as we get older. But according to Dr. Oz, there is nobody out there who needs to take insulin, or take Ozempic, or take Metformin anymore. This new supplement that he's introducing, which is a gummy. The gummy, I do recognise the ingredients he has in there. They're very common ingredients that you find in a lot of blood sugar formulas, but the difference appears to be that in the gummy. They're transported into your body and are 100% absorbed. So it's going to be interesting to see over the next few months the results that people get from this.

Ann LeMaster: Yeah, I'll be listening to that. That would just be so awesome. That's why they want to shut people down, like you and I, because we're telling the truth. I'm not afraid of them. They can take me out if they want to. I don't care. I'm going to die sometime, but I plan to live to 125. I'll be 74 next month, so I got another 50 to go. I got to guide some of these dummies and shake them up.

Michael Biamonte: With common sense, yes. Common sense.

Ann LeMaster: Oh, geez. It's been wonderful talking to you. You have anything else that you want to add because we're getting down to the time that I think we could talk all day.

Michael Biamonte: Yeah, that's true. Well, the main thing I've tried to keep with the theme of the show is that people who are supplement advocates or who are big into supplements, they really need to consider getting some kind of test to see whether or not they're not creating imbalances and deficiencies. And just rail through a few of them. Most people don't know that if you take large amounts of vitamin C, you can create a copper deficiency. Also zinc. Large amounts of zinc, you can cause a copper deficiency. You can also cause a calcium deficiency by taking excess vitamin C. If you take too much vitamin E, you can cause a manganese deficiency. If you take too much magnesium, you can cause a calcium deficiency. And you could also cause an iron deficiency because magnesium can suppress iron. If you take too much iron, you can aggravate your blood pressure because iron actually can raise someone's blood pressure. It's not just that anemic people have low blood pressure, it's the lack of iron also causes your pressure to drop to actually lack the elements itself. Also, the lack of manganese can cause your pressure to go up or down. If you have too much manganese, your pressure can go too high. If it's not enough, it can go down. So there is a whole spectrum of nutrients. 

And within all the nutrients that exist, there is a wheel that we call the nutrient wheel. And on this nutrient wheel, we have every nutrient listed, and we have arrows going from one nutrient to another. And the arrows could be going back and forth, which could mean that this element can suppress this one or this one actually could raise the other one. For instance, manganese can raise potassium, so can zinc. But copper can suppress potassium. And we can go on all day. Vitamin E can raise your sodium levels. Calcium can suppress your potassium levels. We can just go on a normal day like this. All these nutrients and to react with each other. You don't just take the vitamin and that's all there is to it. The vitamin interacts with other vitamins, minerals, amino acids and fatty acids. They all tend to react. And if you do something that's out of balance for your body, you'll make your chemistry worse to the point where eventually you may be symptomatic of it.

Ann LeMaster: That advice is to eat organic.

Michael Biamonte: Inorganic, but then get tested to see what supplements you really need. That's the key thing. If you're going to take supplements, which most people need because our soils have been depleted of nutrients in this country for the last 75 years, and that was proven time after time. But if you're gonna venture into investing into supplements for yourself, make sure that you get tested so that you know you're taking the right ones. And you're not further causing imbalances.

Ann LeMaster: Okay, is there anything else you want to add?

Michael Biamonte: I think that's enough for people that you want for a while.

Ann LeMaster: I think so. I would love to have you back sometime. You're fascinating. I'm honored.

Michael Biamonte: You're welcome.

Ann LeMaster: All right. Well, thank you, Dr. Biamonte for being on the Common Sense Living show today. I want to thank all your listeners, and I certainly hope you got a lot to chew on. I'm going to pull some of this stuff up that we talked about. So all righty, thanks for coming in. And for all my listeners, I'll see you guys next time.