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Empty holes: gaps in our maturity

July 20, 2023 Joshua Hoffert
Empty holes: gaps in our maturity
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Wind Ministries Podcast
Empty holes: gaps in our maturity
Jul 20, 2023
Joshua Hoffert

Many of us assume that we enter into adulthood full and complete in our journey towards maturity. We present our best self. But many of us enter into adulthood with missing gaps and empty holes. Join Joshua Hoffert as he talks about gaps in our maturity, experiencing the love of God, and knowing the Father's heart.

For more about Joshua Hoffert and Wind Ministries, visit: https://www.windministries.ca/

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Many of us assume that we enter into adulthood full and complete in our journey towards maturity. We present our best self. But many of us enter into adulthood with missing gaps and empty holes. Join Joshua Hoffert as he talks about gaps in our maturity, experiencing the love of God, and knowing the Father's heart.

For more about Joshua Hoffert and Wind Ministries, visit: https://www.windministries.ca/

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Joshua Hoffert
And I drove the you all van onto the ferry to go to Vancouver Island on the west coast of Canada and went to the the the president of our board went to his office to drop all the stuff off because we were closing on. And I remember emptying the U-Haul.

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Van of.

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Computers and boxes.

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And.

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Files and all this stuff and then leaving the.

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Office.

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And there's a a very different sound.

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A full U-Haul.

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Van makes and an empty U-Haul.

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Maybe. And it struck me.

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That everything that I had been building was now totally gone. And I'm listening to the empty U-Haul van, and I just burst. I've got.

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Props today, so.

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I'm like, filling up the.

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Space.

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Up here.

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Oh, wow. It's been a good morning. It's been a good morning. Good God. Nothing.

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You're not big enough to limit his bigness.

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What a great song. I love that you're not big enough. Nothing. Nothing.

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You could never make yourself big enough to limit his bigness.

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And we invent English words to make it make sense.

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The first thing.

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Okay.

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First thing I want to do. Some of you can probably make out that I have a connect four game up here, and so I'm not going to challenge.

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You each.

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Individually to see who can win. But I'm going to set that up in a second. I have some. Some of you most of you have followed, I think on some level, you guys are familiar with the fact that I love the Desert Fathers. Like, I don't think that's a surprising shock to anybody here.

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It's a shocker. Right.

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And that and many of you are familiar with the fact that I published articles on the lives of the desert Fathers, the teachings of the desert fathers trying to rediscover and read, dig these ancient teachings about the life of prayer and the rhythms of silence and solitude that we enter into these types of things and all to help benefit the body of Christ.

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That.

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We begin to understand in a new and fresh way. That's actually ancient and old, but new and fresh to our modern age, where we're so inundated with noise and technology and God.

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And when was the last time.

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Someone For some of you, this will hit home. When was the last time you drove in the car and you didn't turn the radio on or stream a song or.

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Something like that?

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You know, some some. For some of us, it is unsettling to be in the car without without noise. For some of us, it's unsettling to just have no noise around us. And so what does it look like to re-embrace the rhythms of life that introduce our.

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Heart.

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And create space within our heart to encounter the one who loves us? And so, you know, and we've talked about all that kind of stuff and how integral that I believe that is to our relationship with Christ and knowing the heart of the Father. And what is exciting for me today is because a number of you have to have picked up or seen the books that we've done on the Desert Fathers write the teachings on the Desert.

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Fathers.

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The seven day devotionals we put out, I've heard I've heard a lot of great feedback from many of you that have been impacted by those books. Well, just on Friday, we finalized Aaron and I drove to Halifax with the kids and picked up the print run of the new devotionals. And those are based on the lives of the desert mothers.

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Because.

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There were. Here's here's one of the things that as I as I came to grips with in studying the lives of the early church fathers is that there were actually also early church mothers. And when you look at, say, in the in the same timeframe, Greek and Roman philosophical writings, not that I'm expecting many of you to know that, and I don't know many of them either.

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I know that there were a couple of women in the Greek and Roman society that were known as philosophers today. You can't find any of their writings because nothing exists today of what a woman wrote. No woman that at all that wrote in the Greek and Roman society. Can you find a single writing from that? You can find like when you could probably name just.

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Offhand.

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Some of the great minds that have shaped our world, like Socrates and Plato and Aristotle, these names that have just become commonplace to us that were all three of them were Greek or Greek philosophers, right? You could.

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Name.

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I mean, you don't have to study philosophy to know that you can name a few of the men that have shaped Western thinking when it comes to the Greeks and the Romans of the time. Right. Comparable to the same age of the church. So you but you can't find any writings.

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From.

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Any woman that has existed at all from the ancient world. That's interesting.

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Right?

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Except for in the search, the only place you can find it is in the church, is in the early church writings. Now, now, with that said, there's not much, but it's there. Because when when Jesus said something or when when Paul, echoing the refrain, says there's now neither male nor female. They actually begin. That was a bomb that was dropped in civilization.

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That idea.

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So what we've done is we've taken what we can come to. I wrote I wrote 12 articles.

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On.

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Recreating the teachings of the desert mothers. When we when I blogged through the whole thing, we've just put out five new devotionals on the lot on the teachings of the Desert Mothers. So they are. And they're beautiful. My wife really likes the colors, and they were called almost like just like the fathers were called ABBA.

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Right?

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Abba Anthony, Abba Basil because it was a term of endearment. Father Anthony. Father Basil. They called the mothers almost because it was a term of endearment, and yet almost. Sarah The five that we've done almost. Sarah I'm a Theodora, I'm a macarena, almost syncretic. There's a reason why Aaron won't let me name all the kids after the.

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About Syncretic.

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I'm a mary, so I just want to read you one. Almost. Sarah. She said.

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This.

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If I were to pray to God that all men might approve of me, I would find myself at each one's door repenting. I would pray, rather that my heart might remain pure towards all having neither ill thoughts nor judgment regarding anyone. And here's what I wrote about.

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That.

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I had while the way that evening hours studying and reading about an early church movement and where it had gone astray, I laid down to sleep around midnight proud and content over late night over my late night studying. I half jokingly thought that God must be proud of my efforts.

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Never thought that.

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Oh, he must really.

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Be proud of me now.

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I really tried hard.

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On that one.

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The voice of God resounded clearly through my thoughts. I am proud of you for who you are.

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Not what you have done.

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The acceptance of God is merely a heart.

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Turn away.

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Christ is welcomed us into His loving arms for all of eternity. How could we not reciprocate? For those who turn to Christ, belonging comes naturally. It is not that we belong to each other or to the ideology Jews of the world that give us empty meaning or the marketing ploys of multimillion dollar companies trying to buy your allegiance.

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We find belonging in Christ. There would be no shortage of people to turn you away for the wrong glance or the wrong word. But Christ, our ever present hope does not turn us away. He does not require perfection to begin the journey, nor to sustain the journey. He invites us and we find him. And in finding him, we eventually find ourselves.

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The great longing of humanity is to place our find our place of home and rest in Christ. We find that we have never been abandoned, but welcomed and in being welcomed, we are cherished. Almost zero. This principle. If she tried to find acceptance in the eyes of everyone, she would spend all of her time placating people. How many have ever wasted that time?

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But if she sought the acceptance of God, she recognized she would find a purity of heart. So those are officially released as of today. You guys are the first place they're actually available. So those are after the service. You can find those out there. My lovely wife.

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Will.

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Will have them out there. You can get their $12 each and then you can get the whole bundle for 50, so you get one of them free. So we've got a couple other things in the book table, too. So that's that's that's a that's an exciting announcement for me that I've been I've been working on this project.

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While.

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I started the writing.

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And why. Thank you.

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It was five years ago that I started studying and writing about them.

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So it's.

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A culmination of years worth of years of work. Okay, so connect for you guys. Know how to play this game?

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Yeah, well.

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Since we know how to play it, we don't need the instructions. So I bought this Kinect for specifically for today. We didn't actually have.

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It.

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And I asked a couple of people and nobody had it. So I didn't ask. Colby That's very true. Next time, call me. I won't leave you out. But I'm not searching for acceptance from you. Sure.

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Some of you guys, I know some of you I'm going to really frustrate right here because you're going to see four in a row. But we're not actually playing the game. That doesn't mean you won.

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Okay.

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Keeping this away from the hands of my children was not easy. So deep and profound right. Some of you creative types this is going to really like. It should just be a mess all over the place. Right there. We got all of them.

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Okay.

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I'm very happy with this. Not as happy as the books, but this does satisfy me. Many of us assume, okay, when we enter into adulthood and we've gone through all the formative stages of our journey, all that kind of stuff, that this is how we enter adulthood, right? It's no longer connect for. All right, that this is how you into adulthood complete.

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All the gaps are filled in. This is what we present to each other, our accomplishments. This is almost Sarah writes.

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That.

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Most of people in and will recognize all of humanity this way is that we're seeking for acceptance. And so what we put forward is accept me. So most of us, when we see each other, we see others. We even project ourselves. This is what we're projecting, This is what we think we look like.

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But in fact.

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What you actually look like is this.

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That's very.

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We're full of.

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Holes, we have gaps.

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We have a lot of things we don't want other people to see, You know, the normal. We'll go back through this again. Okay. The normal stage, right. You know, you're born, you've got life. Things are happening, right? You're you've got a family, you're growing. You've got a mother who's nurturing. You know, she's I remember when I was I think I told you the story before, I can't remember.

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Maybe a number of years ago, Erin and I were helping my dad move some stuff out of his out of his storage shed back down in California. And I came across a a journal that my mother had kept about the record of my birth, that I tell you this story.

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No.

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And I was reading through it and it was it was like a personal journal. It was like commemorating things about my birth. And so I felt like I had it was okay for me to look through. And and one of the things that I remember reading was my mom recounting the some of the first moments she.

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Had.

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Breastfeeding me. And that might sound a little bit hard to read as an adult man, but I recognized when I read that just how tender my mom's heart was to me.

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And it it struck me just I was so.

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She was excited to nurture me. And so these these things happen, right? I read that kind of stuff. And I see as a child that's so necessary to be celebrated, to be cherished. You know, you've got a dad who comes home.

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And.

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He just sweeps you up into your arms and he celebrates you when you come home. You know, you've got friends that are in show up and knock at your door and they want to play with you. Well, that was in the eighties.

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Nowadays it's intense. Yeah.

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Now they text right before, right? And then they play the you play online games with your friends, I guess, you know, Fortnite and whatever that kind of stuff is. But you know, you go to school and you earn grades and you get accolades from your teachers and all this kind of stuff, right? All these things start filling you up and you start becoming complete.

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But then some kind of trauma happens, some kind of.

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Pain. Maybe it's the pain of verbal abuse, maybe it's.

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The pain.

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Of physical abuse. Maybe for some of you it's sexual abuse. Something happens that totally throws your life around. You're adding these things to you and all of a sudden trauma happens and the whole thing just falls apart. And then you go through your life.

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Let's get these guns down.

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You go through your life and all. You've got all these holes in this trauma and this unresolved pain and all these things. And you're going in and you're starting, okay, well, I got this accomplishment now, so I'm out of not wanting and I've got this relationship now and I'm hitting that one. And I earned this thing here and I got a raise at work and.

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You know, and and I.

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Got I got married and I had kids and, you know, and then we went on a vacation, and then I got to go to that place that I really wanted to go. And you keep adding it and adding it and adding it and adding it.

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But nothing seems to stick. I became a father. I had children. I became a mother. That's what I always wanted. I got married. That's what I always wanted. I finished the degree. I got the dream job. I became a manager.

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But.

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We got all this unresolved stuff. That's what we keep adding stuff, but we're never able to become who we are.

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You know, here's the thing about the the Advent season when we're considering, you know, we would well, we will read things like what Jesus said, you know, Matthew five, great Sermon on the Mount.

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Awesome. You know, incredibly instructive.

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And we read it through the.

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Lens.

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Of an orphan who's keeping us trying to be perfect as your father is perfect. All right. I'm going to try and do that one and turn the other cheek. Okay. Well, someone hit me. I got angry, but I turned the other cheek and they hit me again, and I got even angrier.

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And.

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You know, so I keep on trying to fulfill the religious commands.

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But. And it's just not happening.

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I will be angry and do not sin. Okay. Well, no, I didn't do that one. I got angry and then I said, okay, I didn't do that one. Okay. Pluck out your eye if you blessed. All right, I'm going to let that one really hurt. I'm not going to try that one again. You know what? Like I'm not going to try and do all the religious commands and I keep trying to.

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Fill it up and it's like nothing sticking again. And I got all these holes and I don't want anybody to see this.

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Because then they'll realize I have.

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Holes.

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I want them to see it filled.

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I want to see it complete, you know, And then and then, you know.

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The accomplishments don't work. The relationships don't.

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Work. And then I start getting angry.

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Because life hasn't turned out as it's supposed to.

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And I recognize with anger.

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I can kind of.

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Like hold one thing there because.

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I've got enough power, because I'm angry. But, you know, eventually that one slips through, too, because now I've turned to lust and I can hold one thing there with lust because I can placate a desire. But now the anger is gone.

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Like, Oh, okay, on and off.

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That anger gave me a lot of.

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Power.

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Because I can manipulate my relationships, but I can't ever keep, you know.

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Okay, I can keep that one together. I can keep that one together. But now we've got to move. I've lost it all. And I.

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Start turning to external desires and.

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Outworking.

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Of emotion to manipulate the world around me to get what I.

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Want.

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And I might be able to hold two or three in there, but I can't sustain it for long. And eventually it falls apart again.

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Over and over and over again.

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The cycle repeats. This cycle is repeated throughout all of human history. They just didn't have connect or.

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Yes.

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But then something happened 2000 years ago as as.

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Maximus the Confessor said, you know, Nikita read.

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The nothing.

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About the Incarnation diminished his.

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Gardener's.

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But everything about the Incarnation.

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Impacted our humanity.

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So now he comes to us.

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And then. And then we have an encounter because we are a people of encounter. And something shifts in our life.

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And for the first time, we start to see what love really looks like. And we see that.

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Someone.

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Sees me through the brokenness and through the.

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Pain we've encountered in.

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Who.

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Starts bringing.

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People around us, people that love us unconditionally, people that show us with the Father. Heart of God is like spiritual Mama's and spiritual.

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Topics that.

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Begin to lay a foundation of love and acceptance.

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In our life because they see past that.

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Veneer.

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All the empty holes they see. They're there, but they love you anyway. And you go, I can have him Dehors and be loved. But I didn't know I could do that. I thought I had to have them all perfect. And in fact, they don't always line up. But we start seeing.

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More and more. We start seeing it. Then we experience his blessing.

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His presence.

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Comes in different places and different ways and begins to revitalize our.

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Lives.

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And one thing leads to another. And then I start.

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Getting into.

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Moments of real pain, real, real things where things went really wrong.

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And I want to.

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Show you something here. One of the one of the early fathers, he said this Gregory Nazianzus, you said this for that which is not.

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Assumed he has not.

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Healed, but that which is united to the Godhead is also saved, that which is not assumed. He has not healed. What did he assume? Humanity. Everything is meant to be human. That means that which he.

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Assumed he healed.

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Look at this. Okay. Second Corinthians, Chapter eight. We're going to get back to connect more in a second. I won't just leave it that way. Second Corinthians eight, verse nine, second Corinthians, chapter eight, verse nine, for you know, the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, this is pretty good. It describes to you with the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, is that though he was rich.

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Yet.

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For your sake, he became.

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Poor, that you, through his poverty.

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Might become rich. He emptied himself. He took on the form of a servant.

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He assumed.

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Humanity. He became.

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Poor. Why did he become poor?

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That you might be made rich. Now this has nothing to do with material wealth. Okay, so you can throw that out the window. It has nothing to do with him giving you money.

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What?

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It has everything to do with him. Healing your life, restoring and redeeming it. And then from that place, what he says in Matthew five, Be ye perfect us old King James, Be ye perfect as your Heavenly Father is perfect. It's no longer a command you have to fulfill but a loving gaze you enter into.

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Because now I'm looking at the father.

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Now I'm encountering the father. And I don't have to try to be perfect because I want to be like him.

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Because I've got a vision, Because I've seen something, because I'm a person of encounter, because he comes to me.

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Not because I'm trying so hard to have an accomplishment.

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But because he came to me.

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But I'm starting to work through the weeds.

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Of my.

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Inner life and the things that have happened to me and then turn with me again. Isaiah 53. Okay. All those places where the accomplishment didn't do it, where that person hurt me, where physical abuse, verbal abuse, someone came against me. Whatever happened? Isaiah 53, verse three The famous passage regarding the person of Jesus.

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Who.

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Says he's despised and rejected by.

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Men.

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A man of sorrows and acquainted with grief. And we did, as it were, our faces from him. He was despised and we did not esteem him. Surely he is borne our griefs. This verse bore and carried our sorrows. Yet we see him stricken. He was smitten by God and afflicted. He was wounded for our transgressions. He was bruised for our iniquities.

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The chastised meant of our peace was upon him and his. By his stripes we are healed. See what he.

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Assumed. He also redeemed what he assumed. He also.

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Redeemed. So what did he assume?

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He assumed human rejection.

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And now all that.

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Space.

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That was so painful before that you couldn't hold on to anything.

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He assumed it and redeemed it because he was despised.

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There were people that didn't like him, that treated him poorly. And there are people that didn't like.

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You and treated you poorly. But guess what? He assumed it and he redeemed it.

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He was rejected. And there's people that rejected you. But now you assumed that rejection. He comes to you in that rejection.

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And you hold on to that.

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Now, it's not that the rejection goes away.

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But you see it because your.

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Gaze is on the father. Be perfect, be complete, be.

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Whole as he is.

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And I see what happened through the lens of his life and his light and his love because he assumed it. He redeemed it, and he showed me his nature in it. And I go, At the very least I go, You were rejected. I was rejected. I understand your heart. He was sorrowful. How many people had seen.

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He assumed your sorrow, Everything. It meant to be human. That baby in a womb was everything.

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It meant to be human. And that was the.

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Prophetic.

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Utterance of God that everything was going to change. Because now.

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Everything that it meant.

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To be human.

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The grief. How many people had grief?

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You know, we could put a couple of them in there for that. The grief of our life, the loss of a loved one, whether it's death or a divorce or whether it's the loss of a child or an it or a parent.

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Or a close friend.

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The loss of the grief is not just.

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Relegated.

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Like I remember one time before I've told you there's a story a couple of times, but it's been a while before Aaron and I moved to P.E.I., the ministry that I was running Streams Canada. We ended up there's a it's a long story. I'm not going to go into the whole thing, but we closed it.

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By.

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The end of the year in 2017 before we moved out here. And I remember packing everything I'd been running this ministry for. I've been involved with it for for the better part of the last decade. At that point. And I'd been running it for about six years and I remember packing everything into a little U-Haul van. It wasn't much you, or maybe it felt more accomplishment if it had been a big U-Haul van, but it was a little one.

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And I drove the you all van.

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Onto.

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The ferry to go to Vancouver Island. This is on the west coast of Canada and went to the that the president of our board. I went to his office to drop all the stuff off because we were closing the office. And I remember emptying the U-Haul van of computers and boxes and files and all this stuff, and then leaving the office.

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And there's a a very different sound, a full U-Haul van.

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Makes and an.

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Empty U-Haul van.

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Makes. And it struck me that.

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Everything that I had been building was now totally gone. And I'm listening.

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To.

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The empty U-Haul van, and I just burst into tears because it's all done. It's all dead. I'd been working with everything to build this thing, and it's all gone now.

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And the father.

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Came to.

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Me in that grief and he said this So category of my son. Why? Because he knows grief. Because he was right there. Because he sees my heart. And all of a sudden now I know he's there. And grief takes on a whole new meaning because he's there grieving with me, because he was a man acquainted with grief, because he assumed all that it meant to be human.

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You know, your grief. No grief.

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Like going back to when Nikita said.

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Your grief can.

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Never be too big for.

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Him. He was despised.

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People didn't esteem him. How about that one?

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They didn't like him, but he knows. And he took it. He took it upon himself so that when it happens to you, he can.

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Offer you a completely different picture. You know, we see him on the.

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Cross right where he goes. Oh, forgive them. They don't know what they do, because let me show you something totally.

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Different, a totally different way of framing what they've just.

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Done to you, because I know what it's like. And he adds more.

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He's borne our griefs, he carried our sorrows.

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He was stricken for us. He was hurt for you, and he hurts for everything. It meant to be human. He took on.

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He filled the empty gaps. I really think if Jesus, I connect for you What He used it.

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This one too smitten by God.

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I haven't even ever felt that one. The dealings of God in your life. Yeah. We could put in like, four for that one.

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I understand. It could happen to me. And I'm bringing you a totally different way of seeing it from a little baby in a womb. Everything is meant to be human. The father.

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Was going to see something.

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Totally different wounded.

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Bruised.

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Chastised it, all of it takes on a whole new meaning because of who he is, no part of his humanity diminished his divinity. But every part.

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Of his divinity.

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Transformed humanity. That the nature of the incarnation is one of the.

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Most important events in all of history. You know, you look at the gospels and you can sum up the most important events as the Incarnation, the Transfiguration, the cross, the resurrection, and the Ascension.

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And those.

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Five.

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Moments are the whole story of.

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The Bible in a.

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Nutshell, what we.

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Focus on in the season is the fact that he took all.

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The stuff, all the wounds, everything. He took it all together. Can you come up worship and.

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See when you encounter him? He stops up all those leaky holes. You may not feel complete because now see all of these in here, they don't represent all the highlights.

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Some of them are right.

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This foundation. He brings a loving community around us. He pauses, love into us. But it's not like he takes away the grief.

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He meets us in the midst of it.

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Actually, and so much so that when Jesus talks about grief, you know, in the Beatitudes.

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Blessed are those who mourn, right?

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That's grief and sorrow. Not I'll take it away.

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I'm going to come and comfort them. So he he takes all the things that.

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Felt like holes.

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That felt incomplete. The man I had to add perfection.

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I had to add accomplishment. He takes all those things and says, I'm going to reframe all of them for you.

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Because of who I am and what I've done.

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For your sake. The Scriptures say Second Corinthians eight.

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For your sake.

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He became poor, that you might become rich.

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He saw this and went, I'm going to come.

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I'm going to redeem it. And you know what? And some of the difficulty with that that some of us have is that sometimes it takes two, three, four, five, ten years.

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Sometimes even longer.

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To see that leaky place filled. But he sees it because he took all that.

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It meant everything.

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It meant to be a human life he took. And then, as you said a couple of weeks ago, by the very nature of the incarnation, he said, I'm uniting that humanity with my divinity because. Everything needs to change.

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No more.

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Empty holes, but holes that have been totally redeemed.

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Totally transformed. I don't want to know.

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I just believe this morning, no, those places of God. Why did it happen this way? You know, as as we see a man acquainted with grief, with sorrow, despise, rejected, his stricken is afflicted, he's wounded, he's bruised. All the things that happened to him as a human, all the things that happened to us as a human, that he wants to visit those moments this morning and reframe those moments.

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Because where you may have felt unheard, misunderstood, unloved, uncared for, he's right there. Like like imagine every one of these gaps is a door that he's knocking and waiting for you to open it so that he can come in and say, Actually, this is how I see it. Actually, this is what happens and this is what I'm going to do with it.

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And that grief is going to become something radically different. That pain is going to become something radically different. And you can't get rid of the memory. You can't get rid of the events, but you can see him in the midst of it. And he stands at that door and knocks. And this morning, just as we enter into worship, see him knocking at the door.

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See him knocking at that door. It's an image he gives us in Scripture that he stands at the door and knocks and he wants to come in. He wants to come in and sit down. What happens? He says he wants to come in and sit down and have dinner with you. What do you do over dinner? You talk about life.

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You talk about dreams, hopes, wishes, longings. You talk about the things that have happened to you. He wants to in and share his life with you so that you see your life in the context of is. So Father would just ask right now as we enter into this space, father that you'd visit, that you'd stand before the door of our heart and not because we know redemption is a door turn away.

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That's all it is. Turn the knob. Redemption comes. So Father would just offer this moment to you. We're going to stay in this space for a few minutes. But just picture that the father's knocking in all those dark places when I don't know if I can go there. That hurt too much. But he's there. I understand. I took it on everything.

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It meant. I took it on. I get it. Is knocking. He wants to come in. So just in this moment, just picture that door opening up and the father flying in and just see what he does. Let's just go.