Wrack Your Brain Episode 5

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Episode 5. This is a show about everything and nothing. Part politics, part satire, all bourbon. Join Dominick Leon and Charles Fuks as they muse about current events, social issues, and whatever surfaces from the depths of their minds. If you walk away thinking about something in a different way leave a comment, like, share, and subscribe. In this episode we discuss energy independence and societal symbols.

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Background music is "Indie Folk (King Around Here)" by Alex Grohl

Check out the accompanying video on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8yJ-oe1KuU

Transcript

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all right welcome everybody this is another episode of rank your brain i am your host dominic leon and my co-host

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charles dukes and we are rack your brim that's right i mean we are we are two human beings uh uh pan metro hemi

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demisexual uh men uh who identify as uh men

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cis hetero uh trans pedentrist

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well one of us is is in the lgbt university plus and one of us is just the a

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april [ __ ] that's all right all right uh so what are we talking about today this is uh by the way it is

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the this is the 16th today is march 16th 2022. that's right uh one day past the

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ides of march which everyone knows you should daylight savings sign actually did you not hear they made it permanent

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now it passed the senate but with with the unanimous vote a unanimous vote to add dale and timmy's

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then that's just go to the house to end it or keep it i i don't know what you mean by end it or keep it like

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we're not gonna switch clocks unanimous vote to never switch clocks again now whether or not we

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keep it wasn't daylight savings time only for the farmers anyway i i just i don't know a lot of the history yeah

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that that is my understanding that yeah it had to do with with not just with agriculture in general but the

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farmers because kids would be led out of school earlier

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but um everyone sees it as useless actually so many studies have have come out saying that it's um and how many

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people have gotten some work late because they've forgotten not even i mean studies have have been

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done showing that it affects mood it affects children's development just like the switch just like switching an hour so

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there's a more negative effect and there is a positive outcome for the if we were to keep it so getting rid of it is a

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better option i mean i don't i don't think anyone has found a positive impact on the body except for the farmers on

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the body right i don't know maybe the farmer's bottom line i'm sure it's impactful i don't even think farmers anymore

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it may have been a thing more but like the 30s and 40s where it was more of a thing but nowadays

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yeah today whether it's dark at five o'clock or just before dark at five o'clock it's

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ultimately meaningless and still what a good mixture however to do what really to do what that you can't do under under

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you know headlamp or lights right or even regular daytime work right or get up early right it's it's

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the point is is that there there's much more much more bad than good from from switching the clocks now the

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question becomes do you keep the current hour or do you um

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or do you or do you or do you go back in the fall but the vote came the vote came

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after the the change had already been made and we had to sure i you know spring ahead one hour so i think

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i think now i don't think we're gonna fall back an hour i think by this point

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if they keep it they might just say what it whatever it is now is what it's gonna be like that's that might be the case it

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could be yeah that's but i don't i honestly i don't know they might have said for whatever reason

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we're gonna do it one more time but then that's gonna be the last one because that's the better confusion or maybe keep it within this year like all right

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by the fall or fall back and then i'm done well it goes into effect november 2023 so if it so yeah no matter what

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we're gonna we're still gonna fall back one hour well one last time at least well we're gonna we're gonna do it in october then

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we're gonna do it in april 2023 and then october 2023. so we have one

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two three more times i don't know what that face is for if it goes into effect november 2023

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there is why wouldn't it go in fact sooner because that's how they make it oh i see they that's well that was the

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bill we are no longer switching clocks as of november 2023. gotcha alright so we have

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one one spring and two falls between them well the last fall will then keep us on par with the rest all right yeah i

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just listen either way i find daylight savings time to be nowadays 2022 i find it kind of

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irrelevant look most people think it's it's and it just [ __ ] up a lot of shame

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you know especially what you mentioned mood you know work what's what's the work output you know work productions

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numbers sleep patterns sleep patterns if it's more if it's detrimental and it's more harmful than good then

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just get rid of it all right so we're that's not today's topic by the way it is not

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we're going to start off with should we name the topics because we we might not get to it but we'll name the topic

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uh if if i can remember one is uh is energy energy independence

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uh the the next one is um i don't know if it's a topic as much as just responding to a video

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uh a video on on ukraine from from a british we have we have this video that

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we watched it's from a british broadcasting uh it's a news broadcast where where this uh this news anchor is

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talking about he's mentioning the baftas and how some people are virtue signaling and it's a

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privileged class or whatever but there's parts there's aspects of the video where i don't know if the baptist is a thing

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that's not a thing it's like the oscars it's the white house oh okay sure but i i thought i thought you were

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saying the baftas like a group of people called the no no the baptist is like saying the oscars but in england and

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oral in uk you know it's their version of the oscars so it's the same thing but uk's

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version and um but anyway it's a news anchor a british news anchor is talking about

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um all these i guess the people that had gone to the baftas and all these people who are i guess the privileged class and

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you know a lot of commentary and in between that there's a lot of things that we while watching the video

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um both we had things that we both agree and disagree on so we'll we'll talk about that too

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and then the third topic we we're gonna talk about racism no not racism not racism no sorry uh we're gonna talk

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about symbols

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no i mean you should not without uh not without consent you always need to you always if you're going to touch it needs

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to be able to consent everything like that you like that talking quickly with a very long stick

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that traces but even then the stick needs to ask for permission before before touching it it

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sure does did you know you actually and that also depends on what the stick identifies as you have to make sure if

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your stick identifies a certain way then it can't answer for permission because then it's racist

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you know some people some people would would say all of that yes some people wouldn't they'd all be wrong

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and most people all have orange hair or pink hair no i think so some of the people that

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would spit out the the nonsensical stream of consciousness as a critique that you just said would be the opposite

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that would be you know bearded cis head or sexual uh appointment

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let's see we don't know who the hell knows now in today's society you never you never get what you think

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you're gonna get well i mean my my point is is that is that some people truly believe some leftists

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require a stick to express its sexual identity before being allowed to be touched like that is some people i

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guarantee there's persons like my mom why would you pick that stick up that stick didn't consent to be being picked

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up that's a violation of that sticks right sticks are people too oh god

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right i'm not saying somebody believes in sticks

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but it is more likely that somebody somebody out there believes that there's somebody out there who believes that a

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state listen there are people out there who are vegans and there are people out there who believe that

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vegetables have a life and they have a spirit as well just because they're not furry and cute doesn't mean that the plants are alive

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of course but there are vegans who think that we shouldn't need plants there's carnivores who think you shouldn't eat

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plants because they have uh they're alive and they feel just because they're not cute and fuzzy doesn't mean that their life is less valuable

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this is the world we're in folks did you make sure your seatbelts are on did you know that

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we might have actually talked about this i don't think we could we did but pretty sure i mentioned it to you at one point

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that uh some rabbinical counsel has has ruled that

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laboratory produced pork is is kosher no that is a ruling

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fact check me matter of fact we we're alive we are allowing fact checking because we we realize that it is it's just

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imprecise to to sit and and and then not check what we're saying that's

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right we want to make sure that on rack your brain we're delivering very precise information and we would like you the

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viewers and listeners to fact check us too that's right all right so what while while he's doing that

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uh let's let's kind of move on to um to energy independence okay and so so

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the the the reason this has come up again even though we just talked about this last time is

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gas prices have gone up even more since since last time i think i think they just cried i think believe they were

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under four dollars um last week but now they're over four dollars in in north carolina per gallon

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okay hold on here's here's the back to the pork according to most interpretations of

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jewish dietary laws pigs are not kosher that has nothing to do with it but since

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jewish law does not but you never let me finish that's the problem you always jump you always like to jump the wrong way why do you start with the irr

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immaterial information could you get right into the media what [Music]

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according to the most interpretations of jewish dietary laws pigs are not kosher but since jewish law does not consider

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lab-grown meat as or originating from a living animal the normal rules of rules

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of kosher slaughter might not apply no they they don't you do google the

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right thing why why do i go ahead do you talk about energy independence while i will i actually

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tell you the things that i was saying no no let's stick to this because now now i'm apparently i don't know how to

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google things no because meanwhile it's just agreeing with what you just said lab engineered

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cork is not considered no what it said may not be that's like an opinion what i said is

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i'm telling the summer rabbinical council somewhere as well i don't know if it was in israel or the us has actually made a

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ruling like it's not a maybe anymore according to these rabbis you're jew if you keep kosher you can eat this lab

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grown pork not like a maybe that was like a baby that's such like a like a double kind of like thing that's like

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muslims getting married for two hours just so they can have sex i think odd for you people out there who don't

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know we've both been into arab countries we both know what the laws and you know the little loopholes that they have and that

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they use for these things and yes muslims it wasn't a majority that's not necessarily terrible not yet they will

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get married for two hours to have sex and then just get you know go their separate ways so this way a lot doesn't

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judge them oh here we go okay

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a prominent orthodox rabbi in israel said that 2018.

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a prominent orthodox rabbi in israel said that lab grown pork would be kosher for consumption by jews even when eaten

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with dairy products like he's that's even crazier what he's saying is lab grown meat isn't even meat

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that's what he's saying because what i just read is from july 6 2021

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okay but what does that have to do with a rabbinical council that's like a maybe that's like by the way what's the

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website that you got that from google i don't know what no what where is the website

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let's see this is israel what does that say you're a jew

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israel hyom hyung this is where we stand i've never i don't know

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okay but is is it a like what kind of article is this is it

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an editorial and who's the author okay some guy named asap go on

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here we go you didn't even read this part this was the you had it in there bro with like you say rabbi david stob

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the chairman of the tall heart organization who serves as show homes chief rabbi has studied the ramifications of cultured meat in an

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attempt to clarify how it may be consumed by observing jews cool uh he told okay there's several

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questions to answer uh therefore in such a case meaning this is a quote because the meat is defined

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in jewish law as actual meat all laws will apply to it and therefore cultured pork will not be permitted cultured

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meaning meaning like coming from a pig again this is this is meaningless he

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said if one assumes it does we have to ask whether such means is considered as originating from a living animal would

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be permissible to grow from non-kosher animals again this doesn't it it doesn't

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it's not a ruling right in there it's just kind of like hypothetical well maybe maybe this is an orthodox raw by

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saying no you're good you're good guys hey he's the jew i don't know whatever

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he says about it has to be right i don't know i mean i mean look just because one

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rabbi said it if you if that's your rabbi you're gonna listen to him if another rabbi says no

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you can't eat it and you listen and that's your congregation's rabbi you're gonna listen to them

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right it's just like people that people people are i think are more likely just

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depending on the christians nominations just listen to that way to all these jewish people start eating uh laboratory

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engineered bacon oh how things will change i mean i'm not that crazy about

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baking to begin with it's okay it's whatever it's another bacon is bacon wrapped in bacon

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deep fried bacon oh it's okay anything bacon it's okay okay okay can we get to

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energy independence i don't want to talk for another 45 minutes about nonsense that we develop okay

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sure energy independence let's do it okay well go ahead so what do you know about it well let's

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let's talk about what we were talking about earlier uh before we started the pockets we were having a conversation and i mentioned something to charlie

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about you know now now i do identify as a conservative however i'm also

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you know on the open mind end of it where i can see there's two it's too easy to blame one side or the other

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but remember in all of this there is a third there is a third party and that is the oil companies

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now it seems that people are are very quick and it seems very easy to say well this

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is all of joe biden's fault for as much as i don't like joe biden it doesn't it's not that cut and dry and

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for as much as people don't like trump it may not be that cut and dry either we actually we actually did

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say part of this last time which is like it's like to say joe biden has never done anything good right right it is not

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actually it's not but what i'm saying is what i'm saying is nobody is really addressing the oil companies themselves

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and i think one of the examples was that i gave you earlier is if you buy a piece of land that you know you're going to do

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anything on you know you're not just going to buy it and then let it sit there you're going to make sure if especially we're talking

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about billions of dollars in different parts of for and when it comes to the oil companies we're talking about

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billions of dollars in real estate that they're going to potentially drill on

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you know if they once they have the permits or whatever have what you know whatever the case may be and they've been doing this this is not

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as if they just started doing this these oil companies have been doing this for many many years so they already know the

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ins and outs and everything they have to do and everything they have to have squared away before they even consider

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doing anything correct okay so then who's to say people are saying well it's fiden's fault no it's

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putin's fault no this is trump's fault but if i'm the oil company

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and if i have all this real estate that i can drill on wouldn't have been in the best interest of the oil company to make sure that i

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had the permits necessary beforehand as a contingency to drill on in case

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anything happened what's to say that right now what's going on is it more of a political

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uh a chess game that the oil companies are doing in order to to perhaps make somebody

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look bad or to play this political game say hey hey listen to what the democrats are doing it's not the oil companies

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biden's making the gas prices go up so just to be clear maybe what you're saying well hold on maybe

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maybe just maybe what if the oil companies were doing this in order to say

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i guess in a way they're kind of like holding up fighting they're they're extorting him saying well you're going to have to do something because

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you know are you really going to blame the oil companies figure something out and then but in turn the public is not

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going to deal they're not going to dive so deep into the research about what's actually happened they're

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just going to see that on biden's watch the gas is going to go up but nobody's going to go beyond that now

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what i'm saying are just ideas they're just opinions i'm not saying anything is just factual but we've got to remember there's always

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a third party in this he can't always be let's blame joe biden it can't always be let's blame trump and it definitely

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can't be let's play putin there is an oil company that's involved in this that is not doing

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something and we we have to figure out what that reason is what what is their endgame what is how

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does it affect their bottom line to drill or not to drill and what game are they playing are they

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playing in order to to perhaps set a certain narrative that'll lean in their favor

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okay so so your your argument is oil companies

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that that have that have the the potential opportunity to extract oil

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and gas from u.s territory that that may or may not have leases

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let's just assume they do have leases okay they let's say they they have to partner they've already said that they have the leases no that's right nobody's

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denying they have releases but but even if they did it right there are steps that they have to go

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through or would have had to go through and will have to go to if they choose to

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get from cannot drill here to

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you can drill here to you are now drilling here right right okay from like absolutely no presence

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here to like pump it out of the ground and refining it right okay

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so the question of why haven't they been going through those steps up until now

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or for the l not up until that but why haven't they been trying to do it for the last three four five six years

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however far back you want to go you think part of the answer to that question is to make democrats look bad

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well my whole my question is because again i'm going back to the fact that this is not the first time that oil

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companies they're not new to this they know the process they've been doing this for many many years

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they've probably been doing this since before you and i were they know exactly what they do in order

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they know the exact process from a to z they know everything that they have to do step by step

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but what what what would have had what would have prevented them from doing exactly that

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this time around or not even this time like for the last two years for the last two years precisely whatever whatever

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stopped them from doing this whatever they've extracted you you extracted 20 20 em it's obviously in the millions

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right but you extracted 20 gallons in 2019 why wasn't it 40 gallons why wasn't that 60 if you

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if it's there why didn't you why didn't you do that i mean the answer the answer is simple the answer is it was not in their financial

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best interest right there is a a an optimum uh price per barrel of gas

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that that the oil companies are shooting for and if it's and if it's more than that they might they might um

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they might pump more right to put more supply or and if it's less than that they might actually with pump less and

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or withhold some of that and if i'm not mistaken i think we had you and i we didn't discuss this on the podcast

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obviously i think we were having this conversation separately and i had made the com the comparison to say so and and in fact

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you're comparing what the oil companies are doing with oil similar to what the beers does with

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diamonds if they reduce the the um the supply then the demand goes up that means the price is going to go up so

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they have a monopoly even if it's many corporations with these with oil refineries and who you know oil uh um

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yes they all are in the same pocket they all know this is what we're gonna do yeah it's it and it's not even it doesn't

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even have to be explicit collaboration it could just be and it is that they all have a

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particular place from the same playbook well the same playbook and it it's you know that

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just because or uh shell's ideal price propeller gas is probably the same as vp maybe a

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difference of a couple of dollars but it probably is michelle michelle's a venezuelan oil company i was just naming two companies

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my point is right like they don't you know i'm company a your company b we don't have to talk

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what's best for me is probably also best for you because again i mean what's best for another company

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an oil company is going to be is going to be the best for another oil within within a small range right the bottom

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lines are going to be similar because they're in the same business so the answer to the question of why weren't

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they pumping more or even trying to pump more is is mostly due to

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um but also if they already know lately a lot of companies especially companies of this these magnitudes you know these

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multi-million and multi-billion dollar companies you would think that they they forecast

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these future you know these projected you know numbers that they're going to need and they have these forecasts they

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work on they know they're trying to predict and use numbers from at least two years ahead of schedule and this is

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an assumption but companies are not running companies of that size or not running day-to-day they're trying to

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project and meet numbers a year ahead of time sure but i mean a couple of things on that right like

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one that no nobody can predict like major world events right so what they're projecting

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in 2018 for 2019 2020 was completely changed because of because of coke right

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right but at the same time again a company that has this much money invested into what they're doing and

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then it's this deep into their bottom line a company that's you know these oil

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companies are not doing things without contingencies or not thinking about what if x y and z happen

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but a lot of these oil companies are so i understand that but a lot of these oil companies are also so

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tied into political connections that it has to have some influence and that's another thing that comes to mind okay so

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you're you're basically saying yeah the oil companies didn't pump gas to make the democrats want that not pump pump pump oil they're

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not they're not drilled for oil no there's a part of me that thinks yeah there's a part of me that's why

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created to look trump to make trump look bad see that's going to tin foil high

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territory that's they're i'm not going to say they're the same

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but like just think of it this way let's say the conspiracy exists for culvert and

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petroleum they smell that similar all right so then here's here's the here's the bit can say all right let's take

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this hat off give me my tinfoil hat you're gonna cool you get covered covered hits

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companies are shut down people are on lockdown people are getting all kinds of [ __ ] you're home you lose your job a lot

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of people lost their job now that the mandates for the masks are being lifted in different parts of the

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country a lot of people have lost a lot of people have lost their jobs a lot of people are not working and now all of a

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sudden we went from being locked down a lot of people losing their jobs a lot of people not having

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any money to now we have to pay higher gas prices i mean there's something a lot of these

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things and then you have these democrats saying well you don't like high gas prices buy a tesla it's not that simple

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but i mean they might in a conspiracy theorist mind that all that stuff might correlate and

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i can see how it could am i saying it does no it just might be a series of events that just you know

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it's it's very easy to piece together but it doesn't necessarily mean that one is attached to the other

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i mean sure but again it is it is this it is similar thought processes that lead

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people to call covet a pandemic and truly believe that covert was

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created not just created but the the the rules and the policies that

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that came about because of covet were designed to like intentionally by

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world governments to make trump look back to make them move i don't know if it was this i think trump looking bad

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was a byproduct of it but i don't think that that was the ultimate goal because i don't i don't think i don't i don't

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think that i think that even if it was anybody else had it been if it wasn't trump it could

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have been anybody else even if it wasn't trump because there would have been [ __ ] it would have i think everything that

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happened would have still happened the way it was supposed to because again go in the conspiracy theory around these this whole system

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about implementing a virus and all this stuff they've been you know there's been people warning about this the exact

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process of how everything went since the 20s and 30s am i saying that's what happened because they had that formula

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no that's a conspiracy there was a and i don't know even cartoons cartoons

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that showed there was a i don't know i want to say and this

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might not have been exact i don't remember where where they were part of but there was a like office of pandemic

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planning or something again i don't think it was like no he was an executive it wasn't it was

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like an advisor to the president uh and and i think i don't remember when when the first

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person was appointed but obama had one and then when trump came into office

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wait a minute i think wasn't that before obama and then when obama became president he's like we don't really need

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all these people or am i wrong you are wrong it existed under obama possibly previous

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i don't know when trump came into office that position the person was let go because of course they were from the

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previous administration and when when it came time to potentially reply uh replace them

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the decision was made no we don't need an advisor for pandemics in the white house

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and then there's a pandemic so maybe we should have needed it anyway so all

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all of that gas talk should lead us to energy independence because

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that is everyone most people agree almost everyone agrees that that that is

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a goal right for every every nation including the united states to to not rely on other nations for its energy

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needs whether it's fueling planes and vehicles to fueling uh you know to to electricity generation

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right we should be able to do it on our own without without anybody but how do you have energy independence for say

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something like an airplane that uses copious amounts of jet fuel and we have numerous

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and you know i mean large numbers of airplanes in the sky continuously 24 hours a day how do

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you become energy independent and are able to fuel airplanes

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science and we all know how science works we have to follow the science

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um okay and then that also means if we're energy independent that means that wasteful

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energy uh cannot be allowed would you agree what do you mean by that what's with you

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race cars uh anything so there's two different so there's energy independence and then there's uh

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carbon neutrality there's two different things uh some people would say like hey if you solve for one you're solving for

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the other maybe but they're not necessarily the same thing if we say our goal is energy independence

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exclusive of anything else so you're talking about drilling for us and only us here when it comes to petroleum are

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you somewhat [Music]

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that's not what i said though what i said was if are we drilling for petroleum and are we drilling for proton yes and

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no and if it's yes we're only drilling for us well let's let's talk about the goal first before we before we reach

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that's an energy source petroleum it is it is an energy source as well as solar power

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let's agree on the goal before before we we jump into solution what i'm saying but you told me no when my question

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hadn't gotten beyond you know drilling for oil and you cut me off and said no and i said but because it's not

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we're not at the solution as a solution to energy independent a

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potential solution we're not at the solution extinction right but the problem is you always cut me off i hadn't even gotten through that

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because you changed the topic i wasn't changing the topic you said energy energy independence correct part of

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energy independence apart from solar apart from wind is also included i didn't just say it i said

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like what is the goal what is the goal we're trying to achieve energy independence that's right does

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drilling for oil include energy we're not done agreeing on the call yet okay okay all right

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okay so a not relying on anybody else b

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exclusive if anything else it doesn't even necessarily mean

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a particular type of of energy right like if somebody says hey

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we need to be energy independent some people might be like that's right that's why we need to drill more no shut the

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[ __ ] up for a second energy is not just [ __ ] just oil that's right it's like i said

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wind turbines solar panels etc and nor does it again exclusive anything else

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nor does it automatically mean we can't do the things we do now take cars and fly planes and [ __ ]

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have race cars like it just means the energy for those things doesn't come from outside this country that's all that

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means okay so what what the republicans and the conservatives

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are screaming is yes we agree we want to be energy independent so let's drill for more oil

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that can't be the only solution though energy independent can only be you know

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um we can't just rely on only drilling for oil we have to explore every single

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you know opportunity and every single option that we can if they're responsible for sure yeah that's right

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but if the response to we need to be energy dependent automatically is therefore we should drill for more oil

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it is flawed thinking it is i agree with you that's right you're eliminating possible everything

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else that's right and you would that's exactly what happened that person would be equating energy

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independence with with fossil fuel independence or where self self you know i don't know

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uh not propagating but like self-sufficient uh uh

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fossil fuel here's a question i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna present to you if we if we're talking about energy

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independence let's just say if we're drilling for oil as one of the

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as one of the options but drilling foil seems to be the most impactful thing on the environment that people are worried

32:47

about you know etc but let's just say this let's say we're drilling for oil i'm just going to use

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that as the the right now option not the only option just the one i'm going to use we're drilling foil does

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our drilling for oil get drastically minimized because we're not

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drilling just for us and then in order to export oil because if we're only drilling for

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us does that mean that the environmental impact is lessened in your opinion

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because i don't think we meet 100 of our energy needs i didn't ask you that i

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asked of only the of only the drilling part i didn't ask you

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anything about it meeting anything needs or whatever that's not what i'm saying nor did i mention it

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what i'm saying is that no be cut and none of that is

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it's not implied you have to listen to my question carefully and listen as if i'm wrong please make sure you tell me

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what i'm saying is when we were drilling for oil were we exporting oil to other countries

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i think part of it okay but now if we're drilling oil in this scenario

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if we're only drilling for us and not exporting anything

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will our drilling be a less of an impact to the environment since we're not having to

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drill for as much oil since we're not exporting it oh okay that's the only

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thing i said i said it four times i'm gonna answer the question what time i'm gonna answer the question

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and explain why there was an implied assumption that you didn't quite understand okay the answer to your

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question the precise answer my i guess it's my opinion is yes

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yes it does if if if if whatever we're drilling just

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for u.s purposes is 100 or more of our oil needs

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oil needs yes okay so if we were drilling the maximum like sucking every

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amount of natural gas and the oil only the amer oh yes in the united states

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but 100 that there's no more there's no more spots to stick a pipe in the ground

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no you're going to listen i understand but just listen go ahead versus less than that versus less

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even if we were at 100 of that that wouldn't meet the needs of the us i'm not talking about meeting the needs

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that's not meeting the needs has nothing to do with it i'm taking of all the options we have solar wind

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all that i'm only selecting that one thing to ask you that one thing

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i think you're taking my question and you're running with it when i only want to know one thing

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yes all i'm asking you is let's say this let me let me close this let me let me

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pose this other question let me say it this way if america only needs a thousand cars because we have no

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interest in exporting the cars we make in america are we going to make 10 million cars or if america only needs a

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thousand you just said no no first answer that question i didn't say needs all i said

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was if america if america's number of cars that that we need in america

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is a thousand are we going to build 10 million of course okay right so in that and that drastic drop

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of output because we don't need 10 million we only need a thousand for this

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country when it comes to the car wouldn't you say that because we're not

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making as many cars as we were because the need of this country is only a thousand

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then our environmental impact would be less let's use the cars as the analogy but here is

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here's the a more precise analogy with with the cars we imp we need

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let's keep the math simple we need a thousand every year we need a thousand we need a thousand every year

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we get 800 from outside every year and we make 200 in the cup and this is current

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and current in the analogy okay 800 for that side 200 inside but remember we need a thousand

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but the maximum that we could produce in a year is

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400. so now we don't get 800 from external now we're producing 400 internal we're still short 600 that we

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need right so yeah that's but that's it's the same oil match that's what i'm saying that's

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why it's important right we would we would have to tap it out and even then we would be coming up and we would still

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need so there's no reduced impact to the environment right because it's not we don't act

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it's not the case that we need less than we would be producing right we would actually need more we would have to

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supplement 100 right if today we said we are not importing any fossil fuels

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we would have to supplement it right we would have to more electric right before we talk about

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vehicles if we're talking about like energy for the house right it would have to go more well even natural gas for

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heating the house and uh that's right and the appliances that use natural gas so you would you would you would

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whatever uses fossil fuels would need to go to an alternate source

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probably electric uh vehicles although prior to the to electric cars becoming a

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big thing actually i want to say prior to tesla i think if people uh people were putting money on it they

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would say hydrogen car is the future and and i actually saw a documentary i think it

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was yes yeah yesterday about hydrogen carbs and about the myths and debunking

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and everybody used to think that if you crash the hydrogen card it would explode but they put some different security

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measures but that's not even the security i mean in this documentary i wish i knew the name of it i risk remember but even in the documentary

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they said you know the level of impact would have to be that of five trains

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hitting you at full speed for even to possibly something because it's just the way how

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much they protected you right it's just and not even it's just the molecular because even in a car's level

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the amount that you is used for to make the whole combustion engine you know move with the hydrogen it's just not

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enough to even produce that big of an explosion to be in the worst worst case and this

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is this is something that i read about too like there was a fear i think honda came up with a car maybe like 10 15

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years ago and they were testing it and then people were too afraid because of the the the

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biggest limitation i mean maybe that might have been part of it but from what i remember the biggest limitation was

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the number of hydrogen gas stations it was the infrastructure that wasn't that an oxymoron you're going to have a

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hydrogen gas fuel station but how hydrogen fuel is water and uh and baking soda mixed in i

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mean that's that's what that's what the actual you don't really need a filling station

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if you have i mean those cars didn't need filling stations like they weren't running on their own they they were can

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haven't said that yet okay so uh no so those cars they had a tank their tank was filled with hydrogen gas and so they

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would need to periodically stop somewhere and get more hydrogen but i think it was such a of a lesser

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degree i think even the hydrogen cars from what i understood needed filling up less than an electric

40:53

car needs to be charged oh like frequency miles right but you still need stations right now of course

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you need fewer and far between than you need from what i understood hydrogen cars needed to be filled up less than

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electric cars needed to be charged sure but that so the limitations still stood

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in stands is that you know how many hydrogen fuel stations do you see right like and who knows maybe if tesla

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hadn't come around and you know made a better battery but then you know what the republicans are they're they're

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uh their argument about like well everybody wants to go to electric vehicles and then we'll say well how is

41:30

electricity made because there's nuclear power plants there's coal mining plants that they i mean coal burning plants is

41:37

still so you still have to burn coal to produce electricity in some cases other cases you have these nuclear power

41:44

plants that are pumping out electric i think duke energy is it a nuclear power plant duke energy oh i don't know and

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i'm not gonna say i'm not gonna that's that you know i don't know for sure i can't remember but remember remember remember we're

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talking about energy independence we're not talking about neutrality i mean yes there's they're usually talked about in the same in the

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same because they are two different things that's right but again i think the moral is and we might have

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beat energy independence to death the the moral is

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there are ways to to meet energy needs both for vehicles and and

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home use and and etc that don't that don't automatically have to rely on

42:25

fossil fuels of course the question is how much how much money needs to be put in how much

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infrastructure right so if everybody suddenly was was gifted an electric vehicle today you still wouldn't have

42:38

enough charging stations right right and then the price of electricity

42:43

would skyrocket it would just shoot up because everybody if that was be your number one source of of energy

42:50

production to fuel up your cars and to pretty much do everything in the household then the price is going to go

42:55

up you're no longer unless you were producing more energy in that case and you were you would you

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would more than like likely unless you're off setting with like solar panels and wind turbines etcetera and things like that

43:07

you mean for your home for your i mean your home is the number one remember the one thing that people are are most

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concerned with is the home use and when i mean home use i'm including

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the vehicle because the vehicle is used for home things and going out for grocery shopping taking the kids to and

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from school you know going to work and coming home from work and just doing your normal

43:28

outdoor things whatever you're going to go from a to b you're using your car but you know it's basically another home

43:34

expense it's your insurance it's your gas that you're purchasing every week or every month what have you you know plus

43:41

the the money that you use for the gas to for the um heating the home a lot of these homes still run on those big

43:47

gigantic tanks that you have to fill with oil so they can heat up the house or even even natural gas but like

43:53

natural not something from right it's like a city lines that are already like a lot of city lines that are using the

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natural gas i i think there are also houses that like a natural gas truck comes and yeah

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they're local they don't have it

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[Music] you know but again everybody has a meter in their home

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they know how much of this gas you're using they know how much electricity electricity you're using everything has

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a cost for each individual household even i mean yes but like everything is

44:29

connected so so it when when the house when the cost of

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how do i put this when that when the cost of services and consumption

44:44

directly tied to the home like in other words a bill that you get for x service or

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or product comes to the house right as a bill that that's easy to see but

44:56

rising energy costs also impact impact the the cost of goods and

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services that aren't necessarily tied to the home right like so on i mean yeah but it's like it's

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it's the entire economy right but but in in this hypothetical look if everybody goes to electric vehicles there would

45:14

have to be more infrastructure including charging stations including energy production and that increased energy

45:20

production would lower the cost even like this the idea that that electricity issues

45:26

wasn't this the same argument as far as when they wanted to do dc or ac current in places and they

45:31

were just arguing about how when tesla and edison were arguing about dc and ac

45:37

the bigger argument also was how much is it going to cost to alter the infrastructure of the country in order

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to in order to to i guess um implement either one of these systems

45:50

because either one was going to be a big impact on the economy to to implement whether it was dc or ac and

45:56

i remember that i remember i wasn't alive i'm just saying i know the argument you are old enough but i mean it's it's there are analogies

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between um and actually like a lot of analogies right the idea that

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a a an existing uh service sector

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whose interest it is to keep an existing model that they make money off of

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was was was what uh you know people that that uh veterinarians for horses and shoe

46:30

horseshoe changers right and like horse [ __ ] picker-uppers right when before before

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the automobile became prevalent right like it was their interest for nobody to buy cars and what what was

46:44

the case cars were expensive it was it was an elite thing i mean this is with any with any people that's right this is

46:51

with you know and so like at the time rich people were like oh you know like what do you mean just uh just buy a car

46:56

you know to the horse owners and they they were seen as the elite [ __ ] just like you were saying about the you know buddhists and everyone yeah that's

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the same thing i said well you don't like the gas prices go buy an electric car it's like well that's not that simple that's not everybody expensive

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it's expensive in in a large part i don't know if it's the

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majority but at least at least at least a large enough part and let me ask you this question people are that

47:20

are in an urban setting let's say new york city the majority people are living in in

47:26

apartment buildings they don't even need cars right but let's say if you have they don't all right let's let's take a

47:32

different let's say charlotte north carolina no mta system no train system there is a train system but it's not

47:38

large enough to really make a real impact as far as right most people still drive but you take a place

47:44

like charlotte and most people live in apartment complexes etc are these apartment complexes now going to be

47:50

fitted with charging stations for all these cars or yeah or are you going to just stick a a

47:56

a a plug outside your window i mean well that's the thing with infrastructure it's it's it's this

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it is exactly what what we were saying is that in order for for usage

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if there's really two major things that have to happen for for uh for usage of

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electric fields to go up one the price needs to go down and the infrastructure needs there needs

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to be more expansion of infrastructure it's it's those two things even uh

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it's been a while since i've been to a parking lot like a strip mall parking lot and maybe i'm wrong but i

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at least the majority move first there are parts of the country i know florida is big on this i

48:36

can't say our area they have buildings they're very different they're going to have electric vehicle spots right like one or two i have yet to see one

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here in china and i think i'm not sure there are but i mean i haven't seen them

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i mean you're right i don't think i've seen any in in this area but in florida i see them every every stripper i go to

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i see there's like all three i see them more on interstates on the interstate no that's like a station that's like a no

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it's a station talking i've seen them on interstate just like a spot for when for example when joe and i were always

49:05

coming down in north carolina from new york we would always stop in certain stops and in the parking lot area they have

49:13

certain spots that are designated for you if you have a tesla you park in that spot you charge your vehicle and that's

49:19

not a gas station or anything it's just i'm going to park my car here charge it up exactly like that

49:25

whatever exactly right so how many spots do you see one or two same thing like four at the max maybe same thing in the

49:31

in the strip malls that i've seen that happen in florida one or two but if everybody had an electric car

49:37

i suspect all of those spots would be electric there's actually a q as a video now that

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you mentioned strip mall there is a video so i think it's by i don't know what state i don't know what i don't know where it would city

49:49

but there are i think it's a place that's got like four or five tesla charging things like

49:54

one of the you know those place where you charge your car and there is a line of maybe 20 cars waiting

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their turn to go charge their vehicle and that's just insane yes but it's a problem because of lack of

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infrastructure right but it's just not at this point it's not practical but it would if you have if you had your own

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charging station in your home and you're able to charge a car in your home

50:20

the argument doesn't doesn't make sense because the the more the more uh think of um why were there so many

50:27

people needed to charge their their cars if they like why is there a line because there aren't enough stations

50:33

more people wouldn't you buy an electric car and then make sure you can at least try to charge it at home while you're sleeping

50:41

well that that's ideal but not everybody owns owns a house or runs a house where they

50:46

could where they could have that's exactly my point with the infrastructure that you were making if you live in an apartment building and you have a tesla

50:53

what are you doing you're you know putting out an extension cord so what is the conclusion don't ever get

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one no but only get one if it's practical don't get one because it becomes practical as usage goes up you

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understand like it's it's it's like it it's like it literally becomes capitalistic it becomes very need when

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you when your availability to use it is not limited meaning right now even in

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the worst case scenarios as far as gas stations we have what came first the cars of the highways

51:22

cars cars and why did the highways get built because suddenly there was a need there was a

51:29

need suddenly there was a need and because the infrastructure called that hey our local roads just can't handle

51:34

the amount of traffic so what needs to happen do people need to buy electric cars first or does the infrastructure

51:39

need to be built first but here but here's the exact same thing what came first the gas station of the

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car

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oh wait the car came before the gas station and before the highway so you're saying that

51:57

gasoline wasn't used in any application before cars were invented

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are you saying there was no such thing as a highway before the car are you saying there was no such thing as a gas station before a car what came first the

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gas station of the car as far as like a existence let's see

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since we're allowed let's google this should we use one add one more thing the car

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the highway or the gas station no what's that i know the highways came after the car no those

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highways actually came before cars and before gas station that's not true that is 100 true

52:37

that's not true google history of the highway educate yourself absolutely you do gas versus if you want

52:44

yes how would the [Music] does make sense

52:50

highways were a high-speed avenue of approach that were developed for horses they were

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made of wood you ever hear the king's highway

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when i say when i think highway i'm thinking you're meaning like interstates no you're talking about asphalt

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interstates i'm talking about the interstates made of asphalt not i-95 made of asphalt

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i'm not talking about us while i'm talking about the highway the highway the interstate whatever you want to call it came before way before the

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highways and old concept

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history

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we're fact checking each other here folks

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i get the highway because if you take it for the literal sense highway meaning it's above above the street level

54:23

when i'm talking about is highways i get it it makes sense for the

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horse sure my question was what came first the interstate well a gas station or the car

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my question the reason i'm posing that question is because gasoline had applications

54:40

before it could be used for a combustion engine maybe i don't know no the first cars

54:45

were diesel gasoline wasn't much lighter it's not about diesel fuel no gasoline was leaded

54:51

gasoline had lead in it not diesel had 11 first cars almost positive work were

54:56

were diesel first car ever was a mercedes-benz

55:01

you can you can track checkman the first car ever built was not ford it was a mercedes-benz

55:07

mercedes mercedes was the first car ever built and it was on three wheels and it was in germany and what ford built was

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the mass production line for ford model t's

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mercedes was the first car give me like the first brand what was

55:28

the first car ever made

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1885 ben's patton motor car carl ben's uh first automobile it was not a

55:41

mercedes-benz mercedes-benz as a browser you know a brand or a human being so here's the

55:46

miranda there's the semantics in this benz made the first automobile

55:52

mercedes came in earlier later because they're they're a connection but benz

55:57

made the first car and it had three wheels and it was in germany ford invented the mass production line

56:04

well he didn't he didn't even invent that he perfected it and he applied it sure but everybody likes to attribute

56:09

invention of the card because they don't know that because they're just not one of those so the amanda carl benz invented the car and then patented it

56:17

and it was called the benz patent motor car and the first refilling station was also in germany and that's whether

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that's where the benz refilled this car look it up all right so the point is infrastructure

56:31

is a this is capitalism one-on-one infrastructure well the infrastructure that that

56:37

where that can make a profit that can generate a profit is is a response to a need just like

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these people are hungry i'm going to set up a hot dog stand these people need fueling stations i'm going to set it up and i'm going to make money off of it

56:51

right but now my question is are you as a regular person if you if you are

56:56

living like most americans are living paycheck to paycheck and you say you know what gas is too

57:02

expensive i do want to get an electric vehicle but then you say how the hell am i going to

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charge it up how am i going to how am i going to get it filled up with energy so i can use it is it practical for me

57:14

right now again i see your point and i agree with you if the need doesn't increase then

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these stations won't increase but how are you going to make it practical for the everyday

57:25

person so that that need will then increase if they stay as expensive as they are

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and the practicality to have them is not quite there yet because refilling them

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is not as easy for everybody as they would like it to be then it's just not going to happen i said this 15 minutes

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ago there's two things that need to happen for the usage to increase it needs to get cheaper and there needs to be infrastructure cheaper in

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infrastructure and then i said something else to to agree with that but you took it as an argument and you ran in the

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other direction you said the same exact thing that i'm saying now all i'm saying is not everybody can buy it not

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everybody's going to have the the availability to recharge these things because unless they're running

58:05

extension cords out of their windows this is not just this is not going to be practical agreed right that's what i

58:11

said but when i said it you were like no but i'm like wait a minute maybe we're not going to rehash we're trying to move on from energy and depends on

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where we're at 58 minutes i think we can move on i think we i just something else has to be said

58:23

right one last thing and we'll move on sure okay it is not the official position of

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liberals like every single liberal like the official position

58:34

that the solution to the expensive gas is just going by electricity but then

58:40

why are the loudest liberals of the ones being allowed to have people i

58:45

is 100 fact that there have been liberals that have said oh we'll just go go and buy it i i agree with you what

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i'm saying is but why if there are one if there are levels uh or democrats who will pull or think that buying electric

58:59

vehicles just not within the reno in the reach of the everyday person how come their voices aren't as heard as the ones

59:06

who are saying just go buy a tesla just go by an electric vehicle their voices are louder than the ones

59:11

who are making the argument and it's not republicans if there are democrats that are saying not everybody can do this

59:19

how come their side of the argument from the same political party is not being heard

59:25

you got come along because if you knew that buddhism is saying you just get you don't want you

59:31

that's guys why that's exactly why because they they they said something dumb and with their foot in their mouth

59:37

now they just have to run with it well it's not that they have to run with it it's just that's gonna make the news right but if they don't run with they

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have to run with it because even if you have people from the same party that's not i don't know i guarantee you it's

59:49

gonna ask them like like hey do you really think it's feasible for everyone to buy electricity

59:55

you think they're gonna say yes what i'm saying is whether or not we ask them is irrelevant they're not going to ever publicly

1:00:01

contradict each other they're not going to say hey buddha judge we're from the same party but guess what not everybody

1:00:06

can do that because it's it's a sign of weakness within the party they cannot do that

1:00:12

they're going to have to go with the status quo so there's probably other democrats and behind closed doors when they talk to

1:00:18

each other going hey you made this statement and it makes absolutely no sense but we're not allowed to say that on camera because

1:00:24

then it's going to look like we have a divide within the same point so i agree that that they they try both sides try to have

1:00:31

have unity i will agree with that uh i i disagree that they're now like

1:00:37

stuck stuck saying that again because they weren't saying it like an official policy i like i saw it i didn't say it

1:00:44

as official policy you know like i i i i saw the interview and they said

1:00:50

two major players in the democratic party okay but my my who's gonna go against

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what is saying a nonsense statement ultimately mean right how many because you said it on the news

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but how many times did trump say but how many times did trump say uh mexico the government of mexico is gonna hand over

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cash to the united states that we will in turn pay for this wall not a single penny was transferred by a

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checker electronically or any other way from the from the mexican government to the us government to pay for the wall so

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saying something doesn't make it policy it doesn't make it factually accurate right it's just

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it's it's something that somebody said in an interview and yes some people double down and say they don't walk it

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back and some people walk walk it back right i don't i don't know if they've attempted to walk it back all i'm saying

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is with with with regards to what they said i don't

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it is it's it just doesn't seem realistic that in their minds they suddenly think it's

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feasible for every every american to buy an electric car they they understand money right that's not what i'm saying

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either i know that it's just not a realistic vision but to say it in public makes you seem

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like you're out of touch with things with what what's going on i agree and the only other thing i'm saying is once

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that's said in public especially by the heavy hitters like kamala harris and pete judge

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it's going to be difficult for another democrat that even if they don't agree with them how are they going to now say

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again in any kind of media outlet or anywhere in public that they're not in

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favor or they're going against what people i know it's not about whether it's policy or whatever it's just like

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how would it look and the interior of the of the democratic party if another

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democrat says hey they said this but i in no way shape or form agree with it it's gonna look like there's a divide

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within the party this is the same thing they're trying to avoid again going back to trump trump said

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numerous things that even as a republican i look back i'm like geez dude that doesn't make any [ __ ] sense

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man like i want to support you i am supporting you but you gotta maybe take a a second and think about what you're

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saying before you just spit it out because some of this [ __ ] it sounds great but it's got to make sense like

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and any person with enough [ __ ] brain cells would say i support trump i support the republican party but let's

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be real that what you just said there makes no [ __ ] sense and there's not enough people in the

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party i think they're just so wound up and trump 2024 trump this trump that no

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democrats you gotta take a second trump said a million [ __ ] things that made no sense

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did he say a lot of things that did sure but he said the equal amount if not more things that didn't and nobody wants to

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admit it because i guess they're afraid to look bad i don't give a [ __ ] what i look like now

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do the democrats want to make those same mistakes because there was even republicans in in the republican party

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who were going against trump saying dude that makes no sense you can't say that

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but then what it looked like it looked like there was a divide in the republican party because they couldn't come to terms they couldn't agree with

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each other and what did that all mean that mean that well let's drain the swamp okay but that what good now is that

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going to do i get it would have done good to some degree but all you're doing

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is making it look like there is a divide in the party and i think that's what the democrats now are trying to avoid

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whether or not they agree with each other is one thing but to make it a public uh display of divide is what

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they're trying to avoid because again like you said and i agree it makes no sense to tell everybody to get a

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electric car because not everybody can get it but they're never going to disagree in public they're never going

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to say hey that was stupid you can't say that it's just up to the media now to make a

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mockery of it but where are the other democrats that are that are saying this where are they

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there are too many variables to to to say definitively but here's here's here's my perception if i'm not making

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sense ladies and gentlemen sorry to interrupt please comment subscribe share like anything buy our merch buy our merch and

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yeah if you're wrong i'll fact-check you and i'll tell you yeah i think he'll come after you'll

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find where you live that's right so i think that

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last long let's move on to the last time sure and anybody that that uh let's say harris or buddha josh um

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that that has said oh just go go and buy electric cars they've two options maybe three right just like

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come out like after they start to get rid of you and say hey look like that's obviously i didn't really mean that you

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know just kind of you know like tongue-in-cheek whatever however they they want to spin it um

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they come out and double down right i don't think anybody's doubled down on that not yet yeah i don't think

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i don't think they will and then the third option is they just do what if they do it's going to set up a whole nother conversation nobody's going

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to tell them it's it's not it's too nonsensical but here's um here's the third option is to

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not say anything at all because like they see they could see it as so ridiculous like of course that's not

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what i meant and i'm not even gonna like legitimize

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the ridicule by even coming out one one way or another i'm just not going to address it but also

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probably thinking of the cells you know but i i may just won't if i just won't say that again then we'll talk about how

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i think the best thing to do is not address it because if they really intended it to be tongue-in-cheek to address it would be to to legitimize it

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if it was tongue-in-cheek then no better who [ __ ] says anything about it if it was legitimately tongue-in-cheek and it

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wasn't intended to to you know be an actual then just don't address it yeah and just say the moment

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you try to defend something like that is going to imply that you actually meant it and now you just caught yourself in

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some [ __ ] and you're trying to backtrack yes for the most part it's a fine line because like what if what if

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like you know what if it's a it's like a completely false accusation i don't know you know something ridiculous like per

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personal attack right like again people people in in the in the spotlight

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always have that option either come out and like counter it or just or just ignore it and sometimes countering it

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works and then people recognize that they believe them and sometimes and sometimes ignoring it works but vice

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versa sometimes taking approach doesn't and there's also one other variable and this has to go both ways because again

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as a republican i i get it but i have to be fair everybody attacked trump and

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there was a people saying well it's context context that matters well this context also matters

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i'm not saying i'm going to defend democrats but i will defend the context of which they're presenting things

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it has to be fair i can't just be a blind republican or a blind democrat i have to be an open-minded and accepting

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that both parties are going to say stupid [ __ ] things are going to be taken out of context and until that context is

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is clarified the only people making illegal judgments are the people who actually have

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something um to gain by being against them sure i mean yeah hypocrites always love to to

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ask people to look at context until until they don't want people

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so okay so that was that was energy independence i i don't want guess go too much longer let's let's do uh

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let's just talk about symbols let's knock symbols out of the way and we'll do we'll do a video response

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yes so um i'll do this what does that mean okay i agree what do some people

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not just think it means like what does it mean to to probably very small number of people a very small

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number of people they say it's the white power symbol yes that's right so which one is it okay

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could it be the other one too no okay so yeah i mean 100

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it is it is okay uh not 100 that symbol means means okay to the

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to the majority of people are there white supremacists that they call white power yeah sure but we shouldn't

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legitimize to use that word again we we shouldn't uh enable them or empower them to uh what word did we use

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not in that user but um just as much as there's cultural appropriation there is symbolic

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appropriation they could be using this there's lebron james uses this symbol there's covers of

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magazines with black artists black celebrities black singers song everybody

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they're using this symbol or you know the conspiracy theorists they go this one thing is this mean okay are they

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doing the symbol for the illuminati that none of them are being accused of being white supremacist but i mean one

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white person does this that's it so so let's let's let's let's

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tease about the new ones some people for whom there is more broader evidence

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than just the symbol that they use that they might be either a white supremacist or support white supremacist get accused

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of white supremacy other people who use this symbol who admit knowing that

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that some white supremacists think used that as their symbol

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um they're called out for for somehow being insensitive or or empowering these

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these white supremacists somehow i i disagree i i think that if you allow them to and they keep

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forgetting the word that we we just use appropriately thank you um if we allow

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them to appropriate if we allow them to change it if we just if we just sit back and say you know what this means

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something negative because some some wacko some because we said so yeah because a small percentage

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or a small small group of wackos said so they win you've you've allowed them to win versus saying

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no [ __ ] this means okay yeah at some point we have to call out the people in there and ridicule their their idiocracy

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of something so meaningless says this is okay because a couple of jerk off said

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no this means white supremacy or white power because it fits their narrative now you're gonna play into that and and

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just accept it and be like you know what of course it empowers him and this is what exactly this is exactly

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what they wanted and it's only the small-minded people like well that's what it means because they said so next time who are they what's next then

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if they said smiling means means you think you think my daughter should smiling means you're raping me with your

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smile so now i can't smile because i'm being sexually inappropriate or even violent

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let's even let's just white supremacists wipe your supremacists decide smiling means you support white supremacy

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smiling means you're a nazi right you're never going to smile again no because

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these [ __ ] retards send it excuse my language no you're going to say go to hell last time

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you're okay with being a racist yeah right what it just it just doesn't

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they don't get to say what a symbol means especially if they're turning a symbol into something negative it's it's

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another thing if if somebody goes viral for you know i don't know it's like this you see you see this christians will say

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that this is the devil's horns this is all that but i mean this is like kevin david but like just these two just these

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two up they've been doing this symbol in texas for years for the texas a m the hookum horns because their symbol is the

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bull's head and this is the horns of a [ __ ] they've been doing this in texas for years but because this looks

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like devil horns the christians are going to jump all over me i have no idea what that means but i

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know this in sign language means i love you but christians will say that this is demonic too but so are you gonna tell me

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if a deaf person or a person that is commenting i don't know but if

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it's if a deaf person goes like this to somebody and then this and deaf language

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sign language means i love you but if you're a christian and you're you're not open to the fact that this means

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something else you're like are you gonna jump on that person and accuse them of being a devil worshiper because they've said this to what possibly another deaf

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person or a person who could speak sign language and knew what they were saying the the accusations without knowledge

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just because it fits your now your narrative or because it fits something you believe in or fail to believe in

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it's just it's just an idiot's approach to to anything

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this means okay because six or seven jerk off said that this means white power doesn't mean that

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it does not mean it means white power it just means that six and seven jerk-offs want to say you shouldn't accept that it

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means white power and if you accept it then you're just empowering yourselves that you lost and you lost for everybody

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that could have possibly had a chance to fight that nonsense and you just like a sheep went right into it to the

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narrative and you fed right into what they wanted and you didn't think for yourself and you're just one of the more

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nonsensical people who feed into that and deliver it to everybody else show me okay one more time

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you know some people believe that that that means i support joe biden and so i would say you you just said that man i

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can't do that anymore but see now when there there was a there was a case

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i believe it was maybe two years ago when they saw these students from west point using this but it wasn't even in

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the okay symbol i was in the military for 17 years there's another thing that that means

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but it's not it's not a nice one they go like this and it's just because you're making a little hole you're

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making a little hole somewhere and usually in military you want to have to stand up there's another camera oh but

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no i'm doing this for this main one people would go like this and see oh man i got this over here check this out and

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if you looked at walls they punched you you got punched yeah but if you didn't look at it and knew it was there and you

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put your finger through it that's it you break the hole and that was into the game how stupid yeah but now you get these

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kids from west point who are doing just that playing the hey look at this game and they're being accused of being white

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supremacist how [ __ ] is that and i don't give a [ __ ] who likes what i'm saying is i don't care if you think that

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me saying [ __ ] is bad or good or insensitive i can't give a [ __ ] get me somebody to sue me because i said

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[ __ ] and then we'll see otherwise i have free speech first amendment is still in play it still protects me you

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don't like that i said [ __ ] when they go buy a dog because go pet it it makes you feel good i don't care who i

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offend or if i'm insensitive that [ __ ] to call this white power or whatever the [ __ ] you want to say

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it's [ __ ] get over it grow up move on so there's another there's another

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example right and it speaks to your parents should have all beat you so teach you lessons there's some there's

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an argument to be made in it it lends some some validity to to

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to the argument that people knowingly shouldn't shouldn't be doing this which is uh

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although i think it agrees more with what we're saying which is if somebody paints a

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um i don't want to say swastika but it and i don't know the exact name of the symbol right but it's the hindu symbol

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for peace yeah it's the inverted sponsor right here it's not swastika there's a name and i don't know

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well let's look it up what is what is the hindu swastika what is the indian supposed to be called

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maybe that maybe should have put that in i mean yes but um or yeah

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so anyway somebody paints paints that benefit i'll give you a story right

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um i was i was friends with somebody in college who i i believe the sheriff family was indian

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uh and and i'm i'm pretty sure she was hindu and i visited her her house once

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and uh and they had that symbol um on on the

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what's the name of the like the guard rail on a patio so hold on so swastika is the actual

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design of it whether it's inverted or not inverted oh no [ __ ] it's just that it's just the actual shape of the the

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symbol now in hinduism because it's not like the nazi swastika it's inverted it means

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uh it's surya s-u-r-y-a which means sun and it's a

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symbol of prosperity and good luck while the left-handed facing symbol counterclockwise is called the sawastica

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symbolizing knight or tantric tantric aspects of kali so either way they're

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both they're both hindu so all this all the nazis did going back to appropriating symbols was they stole a

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[ __ ] hindu symbol and said you know what it's the swastika but it is it is a swastika but we're going to use

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it for this purpose for this major major um it's like a marketing scheme like a

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[ __ ] let's make this the symbol of what we're doing so now from now to the end of time people are gonna just

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they're gonna they're gonna so they're gonna put together the swastika with being a nazi because how many people

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actually know the the hindu significance of islam so what was the first one

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so s-u-r-y-a which means sun i'll i'll pull it up again

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which symbolizes sun prosperity and good luck while the left-facing symbol counterclockwise

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is called the swastika symbolizing knight or tantric aspects okay so the

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the surya let's just go with the surya okay because let's be precise the surya the good one yeah let's use that word um

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or the more positive one well i'm thinking of it as like one way is sun or daylight and good luck the other one is

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but i'm talking about the non-nazi ones that's what i'm saying i went to my friend's house in college

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family was was with hindu and and on their on their i've seen some of those shiva statues

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that have it on their on their this was this was it was again what's the name of the the guard rail on a patio does it

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have its own name like a little like a little little fence right

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like a decorative fence yeah decorative fence it had that symbol just repeating

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the surya just repeating and i'm walking up the stairs like what the heck she goes no no it's similar she told me the

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history she was hindu yeah she was indoor family but again like my first reaction was to go what the hell am i

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walking into until until i learned right and then i was i was okay with it i didn't say to

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her because they weren't using it with that but that evil uh significance behind it yeah that's right i was okay

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with it because like once i understood i said oh wow okay it's part of our culture and and i know that yeah all the nazis did was appropriate that symbol

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for their own purposes and for their own narrative that's right okay so somebody walking by that person house another jewish person could have could could

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actually could have you know potentially taking the stance of of course you should never put that symbol up again

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because some people will be will have this emotional reaction to it right as if you have a negative negative intent

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in this case wouldn't that hindu person be equally as offended saying but this is my cultural stuff this is my this is

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my religious belief and it has nothing to do with nazis you can be offended by

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this symbol but it doesn't mean what you think it means why don't you do the research or at least ask me and i will educate you

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being apprehensive or combative for something you don't understand just because you don't like it is not the

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answer i get it that not the swastika and affiliated with nazis offends a lot

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of people but you have to also understand that that swastika doesn't always it doesn't mean just that it

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actually is the nazis appropriated the same as the okay symbol just because a couple of jerk-offs said that this is

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white power a couple of jerk-offs said the swastika it means nazi it doesn't mean that you know i don't know where am

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i going with this yeah i think i'm losing my train because i'm starting to get pissed off with people's stupidity swastikas don't always mean nazis this

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doesn't mean [ __ ] white power right and allowing and allowing well i mean

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swastikas there's more of an argument to me with the swastika because like millions of people see it that way but

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modern world the modern world people see the swastika and i completely agree and i completely understand and maybe the

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swastika may need some further explanation sure you're right but but

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you know what listen if you want if you want the okay symbol to become

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exaggerated but the new swastika fine let let them keep that meaning everyone will stop but then but then

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you've perverted you've allowed a negative a a group a bad set of bad

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actors to negatively pervert a symbol and they win yeah that's right i mean again it's it's

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the cat's out of the box with the swastika but we're early enough with the the okay symbol to say you know cut the

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[ __ ] yeah it means okay [ __ ] you white supremacist it means okay white supremacists can go eat a dick that just

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does not support them this just means it's it's okay they also hold on i got even one better

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did you say did you hear when they were saying that this is 666 this is a double thing because it's six

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six six and this is the end i heard that one dude i know make no sense but

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christians just as much as they'll attack this want to attack this because it fits a narrative i'm either i

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may be conservative but christian train of thought sometimes makes no sense in the attack listen

1:22:15

back in the in the in the early 90s tip or gore and all this they tried to

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make this big [ __ ] uh what to do about um they were attacking the first amendment rights of some of these

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artists and saying well you say this and your music and you're saying all these bad words and you're saying all these

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you know different and meanwhile the first amendment protect them what happened they ended up having to put this [ __ ]

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parental guidance sticker on some of these albums and the kids went [ __ ] crazy they actually sold more albums

1:22:46

because it had that sticker on it than not so it worked against them so again this is kind of the same thing this

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thing don't attack things you don't comprehend because you will lose and this will turn into something bigger

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than you actually want it to be i should just hold this up for the remaining please don't

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take allowing a a group of negative or a group of bad actors to to

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to change the meaning of the symbol and i and i had a thought and i kind of lost

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it not just appropriating it it actually it gives those bad actors a platform

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it gives them a voice you give some voice if you just shut up about the symbol

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let's say it's a known white supremacist using the symbol just shut up about it shut the [ __ ] up

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because shut the [ __ ] up about it because it gives them a voice it validates

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99 of the time it's going to be somebody just saying okay and just accept it and move on once you ignore it you no longer

1:23:47

validate what they're saying what they want ultimately is to be acknowledged no matter how [ __ ] whatever they're

1:23:53

saying once you acknowledge it they've won and then when you actually agree with

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them and say yeah this is means white power oh my god now they're probably just they're going crazy in their

1:24:04

mother's basements they're like oh my god yeah look at what we did what are we doing i thought

1:24:09

i at this point really maybe gave this country more credit than that

1:24:15

to think that i thought we were smarter than that you know americans come on i thought we were smarter than that but

1:24:22

i guess we're not so i think i think that's that's it for for symbolism and that might be the the

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oh one final thought uh allowing along white supremacists to change the meaning of of of whatever symbol they they

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desire uh uh sows sows and amplifies division and as

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we know there's there's a dominant world test there's only one party in this country that sows division he says it all the time it's the republican party

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and with that ladies and gentlemen 2022 this was wreck your brain

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